even though ZYW/WYL are #1 in the world and have grabbed 3 (possibly 4 SS titles), they don't really have that many assets to their game. WYL's defense is pretty weak and ZYW isn't that good at the net. They're sort of like the GZD/XZB of CHN's women's squad: fast cannons.

oh and tjun tjun np about the comment. no harm no foul =)

what a sore loser !!!!!!!!!
agree, so what, surely our referee n linemen will help our master to win the title...win is win....congrat to our master

Boring th watch WD.. and also China VS China...

I swear the tomboys are going to bump chests soon as part of their celebration. They're really excitable. Tomboys up 18-17

yes..!! tomboys won!! 14 point hhehehe :D:D:D

DJ/YY win! Actually I quite like them. They're highly entertaining. I think I'll adopt them as my favourite WD pair :D:)

This Hongkong SS 2007. Malaysia no titles. China and Ina Only.

China Take 3 and Ina take 2.
Huh...Is this answer any relationship with my question???:confused:

damn,..................... Lin Dan won...... From the linecalls, Hong Kong is also Li Yongbo's territory.......... That cheating *********

Come on! Dont you know how to accept defeat graciously?

Dude, even if you change all the line judges, make LCW's court smaller, tie LD up, LCW will still lose to a top rate LD today.

Please be matured,....dont start it again....lets enjoys the match here...

Mean while.....WD is at match point now...MD coming...:D:D
Oh...confused,who to support???Tony Gunawan???Hendra Setiawan???Both are true gentleman...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Du/Yu won. Hmm, so far all my predictions are correct. Let's see whether MK/HS can spoil my perfect record.

Oooo..my prediction missed..DJ/YY won over ZYW/WYL..Anyway..congrats for them..

Tony and Candra. Me want oldies win. Young bad.

By the way,where is george@chongwei?

Yes, where is George? Maybe still sobbing because his idol lost:crying::crying::crying:.........

Who was the lady in red with a white cap talking on the phone earlier?

Yes, where is George? Maybe still sobbing because his idol lost:crying::crying::crying:.........


He is having his dinner as calmly as I would be -- no fuss less curry.:D

Oh...confused,who to support???Tony Gunawan???Hendra Setiawan???Both are true gentleman...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Just enjoy the match....may the best played pair ....wins it..:D:D:D

And this one is going to be exciting...:p;)

Seem like the grand final of the SS will be held in Alor Star...The commentator of rtm1 keep repeating this..Is China team competing???

Tony and Candra. Me want oldies win. Young bad.
Oldies step aside..time for INA young guns to rocckk..yeahhh!! :cool::D:D:D

Come on TG/CW!! Show the younger pairs how to do it on a long term basis.

I like this TG/CW, simply because they are down to earth. You wont see any show boating, bracelets, chains etc. They just get down and do their business.

Anyone who watch the rtm1,why the commentator express his condolence???What happened???

Out of topic,........is SEA game matches....also provide OG/WR points?

Anybody could ...share some infos...please

Oh...confused,who to support???Tony Gunawan???Hendra Setiawan???Both are true gentleman...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Jessica...Maybe in the next time;

Kido/Chandra (like in Sudirman cup) vs Tony/Hendra...so it make u not be confused to support...:D:D

Jessica...Maybe in the next time;

Kido/Chandra (like in Sudirman cup) vs Tony/Hendra...so it make u not be confused to support...:D:D
Oh...good idea...If this happened,Tony/Hendra will be my favourite MD.:p

RTM1 showing wart jam 6......damn

Out of topic,........is SEA game matches....also provide OG/WR points?

Anybody could ...share some infos...please

No, not every country eligible for SEA game.

oh noooooooo...RTM 1 back to show news....in while...GDsport on showing another sport....

what a sore loser !!!!!!!!!

Relax man..This guy is one of the example of ppl who dont like china,bcos they beat their compatriots,no matter what.Just can't accept the fact.So he can only talk trash about china.Just can't have the sportsmanship or respects for others...i wonder whether administrators would warn him for those trash comments.;)

No, not every country eligible for SEA game.

Thanks....for the infos..:p

He is having his dinner as calmly as I would be -- no fuss less curry.:D

You're real joker...... less curry or less satay....ho, ho, ho.....:D

GDTV back on badminton game..stay put.

Oldies step aside..time for INA young guns to rocckk..yeahhh!! :cool::D:D:D
Too many INA fans badly want this shortie KIDO to win ; and i don't understand why :rolleyes:

Yes. Want Chandra and Tony win also. Both from INA. That's way no coaches help them.

Tony and Candra. Me want oldies win. Young bad.

Tony/Chandra for the win!..Young vs old,Power against experience.I hope the legend can win again this time!Time to be awake,big brothers!!

The match is starting....common RTM1

Absolutely true ! totally agree.
I've been working as linesman before, believe me, sometimes it is hard to judge..
Getting into a linesman's mind..even when in doubt ,you still have to make a call ,right?How do you decide then? By reflex?

GDTV back on badminton game..stay put.

oh reallly??..I ll go to watch GDsport soon

No. I am one of INA want Tony-Chandra win... Both from INA...The coach not help them for this final I think... I don't like kido-hendra coach--Sigit Pamungkas.

Too many INA fans badly want this shortie KIDO to win ; and i don't understand why :rolleyes:

Getting into a linesman's mind..even when in doubt ,you still have to make a call ,right?How do you decide then? By reflex?
if too flashes , then No choices ,By instinct ;)

Markis/Hendra leaving the oldies in the dust

I have to say it once again,i am really impressed with Kido smahes,so so so powerful...

cmon markis/hendra.. show to your senior that you are ready to replace them

good trick shot of Kido when 6-11

11-6..kido/hendra leading..just like usual..hendra control the game..

Pretty one-sided in the 1st game. Let's see if the veterans can adjust

cmon markis/hendra.. show to your senior that you are ready to replace them

Come on ToneDra.. Teach ur juniors a good lesson

Some things I observed during LD vs LCW.

Whenever LD lose 1 point or gets a setback, he walks around a lot and waste a lot of time. e.g. asking for floor wipes and removal of name tags. LCW's momentum is then lost and he makes mistakes due to loss of patience. I can say this happen on almost every rally where LD lost.

LCW on the other hand always want to get the game moving and is already waiting for the go. However he always had to wait for LD to be ready, hence LD controls the flow of the game.

This way LD forces his presence onto the court. LCW fails to recover his control and style and is forced to adjust to LD's style. This is very crucial to LCW becoz his play method is very sharp and needs a lot of concentration. (Look at all those very high quality shot LCW makes.) Therefore, LCW has very little mental strength to lose before he starts to make a lot of mistakes and lose the game.

Another way LD force his 'prowess' on to LCW is to shout across the court for removing of name tags and also calls the umpire to undo a linecall.

If it is skill vs skill LCW clearly is better, however LD incorporates psychological tricks into the game where LCW choose not to join or is less capable of. IMO, I think LCW lives in a more simple and innocent part of the world.

Although it is less honorable this way, it is a factor in the real world and hence it is LCW responsiblity as a pro. player to take that into account. No matter how hard you train, or how skilled you are, if u ignore that, you lose.

Look at the last match point where LD keeps interrupting the serves.

In short if you think this world is perfect and honest you will lose. You must expect sh!t, eat sh!t, and give sh!t otherwise you are just denying the real world and living in a dream.

speechless...
there is another sore loser

This games looks suspicious...

look like easy for Kido/Hendra take 1st game...remind me when Tony/Candra vs KKK/TBH in SF yesterday...maybe this is one strategy ...anyway...cmon Kido show your super jumping smash...

Hi...I'm a new member here...have been watching this forum for about a year but never bother to post coz I'm not really a forum type of person...
I have been seeing a lot of people here often argue...but actually what i think is the argument are the one that make this forum interesting to watch haha...and 60% of the members here are malaysian i think...ahhh anyway back to kindra match i guess!

At the rate Kido is smashing, he could be running out of gas in the later sets...........

Hi...I'm a new member here...have been watching this forum for about a year but never bother to post coz I'm not really a forum type of person...
I have been seeing a lot of people here often argue...but actually what i think is the argument are the one that make this forum interesting to watch haha...and 60% of the members here are malaysian i think...ahhh anyway back to kindra match i guess!
Hello...Welcome,hope you post more here..:)

Kindra is just a smashing machine..
Doesn't good at tactical game at all

21-12..Kido/hendra won the 1st set..Chandra/Tony better be really awake in the 2 nd set,since they're not playing as well as yesterday

TG/CW...is on fire...after lost the 1st game...5 - 1 leading

Hi...I'm a new member here...have been watching this forum for about a year but never bother to post coz I'm not really a forum type of person...
I have been seeing a lot of people here often argue...but actually what i think is the argument are the one that make this forum interesting to watch haha...and 60% of the members here are malaysian i think...ahhh anyway back to kindra match i guess!

Welcome to the forum!

Kindra is just a smashing machine..
Doesn't good at tactical game at all
But his smashing power bring a lot of points for him.Most of the players feel difficult to retrieve his powerful smashes.

Chandra smashes is so hard.....good...and effective..

Relax man..This guy is one of the example of ppl who dont like china,bcos they beat their compatriots,no matter what.Just can't accept the fact.So he can only talk trash about china.Just can't have the sportsmanship or respects for others...i wonder whether administrators would warn him for those trash comments.;)
ya they can't blame us for LCW's defeat, they have to blame LCW n Li Mao N Wong Mew Choo.....if they don't give us face then we don't give him face.....don't you think the referee n linesmen will listen to you??? no way;)

This games looks suspicious...

he..he don't try it again.. sam :D

Hi...I'm a new member here...have been watching this forum for about a year but never bother to post coz I'm not really a forum type of person...
I have been seeing a lot of people here often argue...but actually what i think is the argument are the one that make this forum interesting to watch haha...and 60% of the members here are malaysian i think...ahhh anyway back to kindra match i guess!

welcome! :D :rolleyes:

he..he don't try it again.. sam :D
:D:D:D :o:o:o :p

interval....TG/CW...have no coach.....

CW, jia you! TG, jia you!

interval....TG/CW...have no coach.....
They doesn't need one.. ;)

Why Hendra Setiawan can always so calm no matter what happened on the court???

interval....TG/CW...have no coach.....

they coach themself :D

15-10 to TG/CW.....I want rubber set! I want rubber set!

11-9,tony/chandra leading..

Why Hendra Setiawan can always so calm no matter what happened on the court???

ice man :D :cool:

Wow...great..defences...from TG/CW..

Chandra seems very ...excited....warn by refreee

Less smashing by Kido......I think he is conserving his energy for the 3rd set ........

TG/CW.....to play rubber.....could they sustaining their strenght.....the old ones Vs The young ones...

even the linesman are in favour of Kindra:mad:

CW is enjoying his game.....what a character..........

the crowd love candra and tony........... so do i :D :D

Less smashing by Kido......I think he is conserving his energy for the 3rd set ........

i think he got tired :)

the crowd love candra and tony........... so do i :D :D
can they play in the olympic\?

I love Tony for his politeness and gentlemen-ness
I love Candra for his actions + his explosiveness......

CW is enjoying his game.....what a character..........
They just enjoying the game now..
no pressure to perfrom :)

:crying:can they play in the olympic\?
:crying: No!!! So Bad!

Rubber!!!Now tony n chandra really awake!!Show us the great game..no matter who win!!..u both got my supports!!!

Come on Markis/Hendra, u can beat u senior!! Dun give too much respect to them, just give ur very best, k!:D Go Markis/Hendra!!!

:crying:
:crying: No!!! So Bad!
cant tony change back his nationality to ina? just for the olympic I am sure INA really want him back LOL!

Tonedra trying to slow down the pace.. but to not avail. Too many unforce errors by them :(

CW and TG, jia you!

Tonedra trying to slow down the pace.. but to not avail. Too many unforce errors by them :(

kindra is speeding up... :D

CW and TG, jia you!

MK/HS, jia you...kalian boleh...ganbathe...:D:D:D

MK/HS will wins........tooo many unforce errors..from USA/INA

and tondra's engine is overheating.. becos of trying to catch up kindra's speed :D :D

Congrat..MK/HS...2nd. titles on a row...

MK/HS, jia you...kalian boleh...ganbathe...:D:D:D

Your men won....I'm just as happy......fantastic match.....very entertaining.......Congrats to Kido/HS :):):)

congrat to the ina pair n salute to TONY N CANDRA the real fighters

interval....TG/CW...have no coach.....

they can coach the coach with their experience.............:D:D:D

Hore....happy... INA Take Two: XD and MD....

CW and TG, jia you!

Congratzzzz Mk/hs You Have Showed To People Here Who Are Doubting On You ThAt You Are a Worthy world Champion ........

The young pair,kido/hendra won the match..won the HKO MD title!COngrats!!!..Great game played by both of the pairs as well!Let's give them applause!!

Congratulation Markis/Hendra, u're the champion!! Next target: Olympic 08 Gold!!:D Candra/Tony u're already the legend!!

May this young pair can remake the history of achievements of the legend,Tony/CHandra in the future..Aza,Aza figthing!!

Lovely match this.

The old farts had shown the boys that speed and power is not everything - skills and intelligence is just as important.

It seems to me that the old boys haven't lost it - skill-wise and court awareness seemed to have not diminished with age.

And the crowd was funny - when the oldies win points, there were cheers; when it's the other way around, you hear mostly groans. :)

The day CW/TG retire is the day an era ends.

fantastic records made by markis/hendra :)... they have defended two titles back to back

Congratzzzz Mk/hs You Have Showed To People Here Who Are Doubting On You ThAt You Are a Worthy world Champion ........

me too....say Congra...tion for MK/HS...
hopefully World champion became World No 1...

see u everyone in the next tournament..thxs for the time in BC..keep posting...

sorry if any wrong say in my posting here...

I notice this is the 3rd time (since the World Championship), Kindra & Nolyn are champions on the same tournament.

PBSI should send them together to every tournament :D

Kudos to MK/HS... Great play by both pairs... Just wondering how much energy MK has... He smashed a lot... :)

me too....say Congra...tion for MK/HS...
hopefully World champion became World No 1...

see u everyone in the next tournament..thxs for the time in BC..keep posting...

sorry if any wrong say in my posting here...

markis/hendra will be back to be #1 WR next week :D..

hey.. stay tuned here... it's like you would go for a war :D :p

Too many INA fans badly want this shortie KIDO to win ; and i don't understand why :rolleyes:

Because we like shorty actually he is putting on weight...he is quite fat now...come on Kido kurusin dikit you can do it!! so you can attract more girls like your partner Hendra!!

Lovely match this.

The old farts had shown the boys that speed and power is not everything - skills and intelligence is just as important.


Chandra/Tony hasn't even got any white hair..so,old farts may sounds a lil bit too old.Just call them big bros..:cool:

I notice this is the 3rd time (since the World Championship), Kindra & Nolyn are champions on the same tournament.

PBSI should send them together to every tournament :D

yeah...they also lost in the same tournament after world championship...:D:D:D

Lovely match this.

The old farts had shown the boys that speed and power is not everything - skills and intelligence is just as important.

It seems to me that the old boys haven't lost it - skill-wise and court awareness seemed to have not diminished with age.

And the crowd was funny - when the oldies win points, there were cheers; when it's the other way around, you hear mostly groans. :)

The day CW/TG retire is the day an era ends.

Well said. It is just amazing the way CW/TG play considering that they only train together during tournament time......:eek::eek::eek:

markis/hendra will be back to be #1 WR next week :D..

hey.. stay tuned here... it's like you would go for a war :D :p

....hahahahaha:D:D:D:D

Kudos to MK/HS... Great play by both pairs... Just wondering how much energy MK has... He smashed a lot... :)

they're very busy men.. after this tournament.. they will fly to thailand for SEA GAMES... unbelieveable :D :D

Congrats to Hendra/Kido.. they played well and manage to keep the composure. Applause for CW/TG for showing what sportmanships is all about. giving and playing their best.

Congratzzzz Mk/hs You Have Showed To People Here Who Are Doubting On You ThAt You Are a Worthy world Champion ........
Nobody doubt them,they are indeed worthy world champion...:pStill like to watch Hendra Setiawan play,here come the ice man..Ha..ha..

they're very busy men.. after this tournament.. they will fly to thailand for SEA GAMES... unbelieveable :D :D

and also fly to ???...for FInal Superseries:cool:

Chandra/Tony hasn't even got any white hair..so,old farts may sounds a lil bit too old.Just call them big bros..:cool:Ok ok, I'm sorry.

... old men.

Chandra/Tony hasn't even got any white hair..so,old farts may sounds a lil bit too old.Just call them big bros..:cool:

they had polished their hair to be darker :rolleyes: :D (kidding)

and also fly to ???...for FInal Superseries:cool:

offcourse.. bro... final SS... but it's delayed until next year :o

they're very busy men.. after this tournament.. they will fly to thailand for SEA GAMES... unbelieveable :D :D

Hope they won't be fatigue for the SEA Games... and don't disappoint all the indonesian fans... :)

offcourse.. bro... final SS... but it's delayed until next year :o

Then, after 2 weeks of the super series final, top players have to battle in malaysia open and korea open...? That would be quite tiring for some players... :)

Hope they won't be fatigue for the SEA Games... and don't disappoint all the indonesian fans... :)

they must swing by to phuket fisrt :D :D... relaxing for a while.. he..he

offcourse.. bro... final SS... but it's delayed until next year :o

oh bad news....are u kidding Bro....why Final SS nothing in this year?????:crying::crying::crying:

oh bad news....are u kidding Bro....why Final SS nothing in this year?????:crying::crying::crying:

becos.. they haven't gotten sponsors and a venue yet :rolleyes: :o

becos.. they haven't gotten sponsors and a venue yet :rolleyes: :o

oh i see...sayang ya....

Nova/Butet and Kido/Hendra play in their top form..so..good chance for them play in Final SS...but it's delayed...:crying:

becos.. they haven't gotten sponsors and a venue yet :rolleyes: :o


According to RTM Commentator, SS Finals will be held Jan 2-6 in ALor Setar,Kedah. Those from Kedah will be extremely (X10) happy. COmmentator said they chose Kedah cos 2008 is visit Kedah year.

Anyway, TBH should be happy, it's his hometown.

According to RTM Commentator, SS Finals will be held Jan 2-6 in ALor Setar,Kedah. Those from Kedah will be extremely (X10) happy. COmmentator said they chose Kedah cos 2008 is visit Kedah year.

Anyway, TBH should be happy, it's his hometown.
:crying::crying::crying:Why 2008 is not visit Johor year..When the big tournaments will be held in Johor???

According to RTM Commentator, SS Finals will be held Jan 2-6 in ALor Setar,Kedah. Those from Kedah will be extremely (X10) happy. COmmentator said they chose Kedah cos 2008 is visit Kedah year.

Anyway, TBH should be happy, it's his hometown.

That's good news....more good badminton coming our way....and more live telecast.....:):):)

Btw, Andrew Sams (Astro commentator) said LCW is from Penang :confused:........

That's good news....more good badminton coming our way....and more live telecast.....:):):)

Btw, Andrew Sams (Astro commentator) said LCW is from Penang :confused:........

More interestingly, GD sports commentator said When this last tourney is over, LCw and girlfriend will have holiday back in Penang. And they immediately mentioned WMC. Very direct, China media, here it's never mentioned, just hinted.

Back-to-back SS title for both INA World Champions, well done to end this year! Very interesting match in XD when Nova/Lilyana perform their best to beat the most successful XD pair in SS tour. Yeah, only INA pair can troubling them beside Sudket/Saralee, seems the rivalry between INA-CHN in this division will continue next year...

I totally agreed with you. I just have one question to ask: Has there any disputed linescalls, including China Open, that were made in favour of LCW. If there is, even once, then the dispute should stop. If none, then I think those persons who suspect of foul play have the right to voice their discontents.
Good point.Unless someone can point out otherwise,all disputed calls had favoured CHN in both CO and HKO.
However it would be foolish for non-CHN players to expect otherwise.It is still possible to win as THA XD proved it in CO, though almost impossible in the horrific MSF conditions of CO.
But players have choices.There are 14 major tournaments.In the run to maximise OG08 ranking points, it makes sense to play all the SS.After that it makes sense to be highly selective.
For example, if LCW were to win at least 4 SS titles next year before CO08 and HKO08,he should have the privilege of skipping definitely CO08 and maybe HKO08. Resting would reduce burnout and help recharge him so his career is not shortened.Why go to CO08 to try and spoil the party and be a victim of much nasty intrigue if he can avoid it?
Today's MSF is civilised.LD behaved gracious and showed much maturity.But he proved how much concentration is needed to win. In G1, he complained of many distractions and that probably led to many unforced errors and his washout score.(Now you know why LCW lost in CO). Once LD started to focus, so did his game.But LCW can be proud of his performance despite his slower speed.I expected him to go out tamely in 2 games but he managed to give the crowd great value for money.
It's great to know that so many believe LCW can still defeat LD even under less favourable conditions.They certainly think very highly of LCW.
Hope LCW gets to heal his knees completely. Playing with pain is no joke and not the way to win.

Thanks eaglehelang..I saw Sally Yeh and another TVB woman actress.If anybody watch TVB drama series,you all should know her.
dat actress izit Yoyo Mung?? da forensic heroes wan ritee..

Yoyo Mung looked a lot like someone I used to fancy...

Yoyo Mung looked a lot like someone I used to fancy...
HK has its own YOYO Queen too :eek:

That's good news....more good badminton coming our way....and more live telecast.....:):):)

Btw, Andrew Sams (Astro commentator) said LCW is from Penang :confused:........
YEs . LCW is Penangties. ;) Actually not from the island , but hailed from a small town called BERAPIT in Bkt Mertajam

so 2day winner are as follow....

MS-Lin Dan
WS-Xie Xing Fang
MD- Kido/Setiawan
WD-Du Jing/Yu yANG
xd-Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir

does anyone knows wat raquet is nova widianto using?

HK has its own YOYO Queen too :eek:I suppose, but I bet she doesn't stir me up like Yoyo does. She's the only reason I actually look up at the television for more than a few seconds when a HK series is on.

really dun have any site that can watch the men's single? i dont manage to watch it sigh

George, why do show up now when HKO is already over? We were looking high and low for you........ho, ho, ho........

George, why do show up now when HKO is already over? We were looking high and low for you........ho, ho, ho........
haiya, i was watching tv live mah....:D:cool:
i cheer for him in front of the tv...
but unfortunately, he lost:crying::crying::crying::(:mad:

haiya, i was watching tv live mah....:D:cool:
i cheer for him in front of the tv...
but unfortunately, he lost:crying::crying::crying::(:mad:
the next time LCW plays, maybe you shouldn't watch or cheer :p

MD:
Tony/Candra vs Kido/Setiawan: TONYG and CANDRA can and will win it. They have been very impressive playing against TAN/Koo as well as against their INA counterpart during the Semis. Kido/Setiawan may be good, but i dont think they enough Fire to win compare to the Oldies. See if they can prove to Tony/Candra that they are the worthy current World Champs.

Look's like Kido/Hendra HAVE PROVEN that they are the worthy Current World Champions, having beaten the 2005 All England and 2006 World Champions Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun and now the 2000 Sydney Olympics Gold Medallists Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya, who are both World Champions themselves with Halim Heryanto and Sigit Budiarto respectively.

Not enough Fire to win :eek:???
They had 16 smashes compared to 12 for Tony/Candra in today's Final.
They had 16 smashes compared to 7 for Fu/Cai in yesterday's Semi-Final.

Add the 20 odds smashes for the lesser opponents in the past 3 matches.

Not enough Fire to win :eek:???
They had 16 smashes compared to 12 for Tony/Candra in today's Final.
They had 16 smashes compared to 7 for Fu/Cai in yesterday's Semi-Final.

Add the 20 odds smashes for the lesser opponents in the past 3 matches.

MK/HS is a killing machine too :D :D

MD:
Tony/Candra vs Kido/Setiawan, Difficult to say who's gonna win this one, last time they met, the grand old men were thrashed quite significantly. But with added belief, Kido/Setiawan may just find the going tough, unless the match drags on to 3 games.

abedeng's comments are always the fairest :) Indeed, Kido/Hendra did find the going slightly tougher today than yesterday, esp in the second set when they were in the less favoured court :cool: Hendra did make a fair number of mistakes and looked a bit hesitant at times. And yes, your prediction went true....the match did go to rubber-set (to the crowds' delight) and Kido/Hendra did manage to establish a healthy 11-5 advantage before returning back to the "nightmare" court.

wow chinese threads praising this pair....as much as I love this pair I think Cai and Fu gave it to them for free cos they are like...come on Fu we have more than 4 they only have one so let them have this one...honestly Kido_hendra doesn't know how to kill like Tony-Chandra...tomorrow's match would prove it

Fu/Cai gave it to them for free??? LOL...this must be the funniest comments I have read recently :eek:

Ok....so today's match have proven that they CAN KILL!

what MK/HS did to FHF/CY was grissly MURDER!!!

You didn't see their quarter final game. Although they won, they really struggled. Macau does have other distractions though!

FYI, I DID WATCH the QF game. Yes, the game was littered with errors, but, like what I explained in the other thread, once the World Champion upped their tempo and started to play their fast breaks, the Japanese pair was troubled and it was all over very quickly.

Did u watch the game between Flandy/Vita vs the Hongkong pair ? The scoreline might suggested that they struggled...but in reality, it was more of a practice match :cool:

what MK/HS did to FHF/CY was grissly MURDER!!!

That is more like it. It has been a long time since I saw them killing their opponents so quickly. Past few SS have seen them struggling against the lesser pairs, killing them only marginally.

Yesterday, they were up for the match and DID NOT ALLOW the Chinese pair to play the game FROM THE START! That's why the scoreline was kinda surprising to many ppl.

FYI, I DID WATCH the QF game. Yes, the game was littered with errors, but, like what I explained in the other thread, once the World Champion upped their tempo and started to play their fast breaks, the Japanese pair was troubled and it was all over very quickly.

Did u watch the game between Flandy/Vita vs the Hongkong pair ? The scoreline might suggested that they struggled...but in reality, it was more of a practice match :cool:Sorry, I wasn;t being clear - I was referring to the QF in Macau Open.

Sorry, I wasn;t being clear - I was referring to the QF in Macau Open.

Was it even relevant to today's match :rolleyes:? They struggled many times in recent months against many pairs....I am not surprised :cool:

These are the matches they have struggled against recently:
Chinese Taipei Open R16 against Sakamoto/Ikeda -- 21-17 in rubber-set
The above-mentioned match in Macau Open against Gan/Lin -- 23-21 in rubber-set
Denmark Open R16 against Guo/Xie -- 21-19 in rubber-set
French Open R16 against Logosz/Mateusiak -- 21-18 in rubber-set
China Open QF against Eriksen/Hansen -- 21-16 in rubber-set

What was more relevant was the way they killed off Fu/Cai's challenge so efficiently yesterday and yet many ppl seemed to have disregarded that match and blamed Fu/Cai's indifferent form to a number of excuses :mad:

That is more like it. It has been a long time since I saw them killing their opponents so quickly. Past few SS have seen them struggling against the lesser pairs, killing them only marginally.

Yesterday, they were up for the match and DID NOT ALLOW the Chinese pair to play the game FROM THE START! That's why the scoreline was kinda surprising to many ppl.

Badmania, congrats again to your heros. Thought you wouldnt come in here tonite, busy celebrating with your favourite MD players. :D

And yes, looks like in HK Open, Kdio/Setiawan decided to really really go out, it's the last SS of year. In my humble opinion, they even played better than WC Semis & Finals cos Tony & Chandra were all over the court.

The 2 veterans improved much too.

Badmania, congrats again to your heros. Thought you wouldnt come in here tonite, busy celebrating with your favourite MD players. :D

And yes, looks like in HK Open, Kdio/Setiawan decided to really really go out, it's the last SS of year. In my humble opinion, they even played better than WC Semis & Finals cos Tony & Chandra were all over.

The 2 veterans improved much too.

Kido & Setiawan have had the luxury and benefit of watching innumerable matches featuring Tony & Candra... and it's certainly to Tony's and Candra's credit that they could still put up such a stiff fight. :cool:

However, it must be said that the younger Indonesians played their heart out.
They played brilliantly. :)

What a fortnight it has been for Team INA and the fans (including me, Hau-Ge and many others watching on TV). The World Champions in MD and XD: Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan and Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir eventually managed to win a Super Series title and they ended the season in style, winning back-to-back titles in Guangzhou and Hong Kong, beating some of their most feared opponents enroute to the titles.

Let's start with Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir. Yes, I personally think that this partnership is not perfect, but after looking at so many matches over the past few years, I realised that ALL XD pairs have their weaklinks after all :rolleyes: It's a matter of who performed better on the courts in the crucial matches. Nova/Butet have been in indifferent form since their World Championships title in August this year, losing in early rounds of the Denmark Open to Sudket/Saralee, losing twice to Laybourn/Rytter-Juhl in the Chinese-Taipei and French Opens, and losing in the Japan Open Final to Zheng Bo/Gao Ling. They seem to have been overshadowed by their team mates, Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa, who have won two Super Series titles in Singapore and Paris and another GP Gold title in Taipei.

The roads to the titles were not easy either and they managed to clear all the tough hurdles being presented to them in the past 2 weeks! They have beaten the World No 1 (Zheng Bo/Gao Ling in the Hong Kong Open Final), World No 3 (Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa, twice in the China and Hong Kong Opens), World No 5 (Nathan Robertson/Gail Emms in the China Open Semi-Final), World No 7 (Thomas Laybourn/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl in the Hong Kong Open Quarter-Final), and World No 8 (Sudket Prapakamol/Saralee Thoungthongkam in the China Open Final). That's 5 of the top 8 pairs (which include themselves)!

Today's match against their nemesis, the World No 1 Zheng Bo/Gao Ling was filled with nail-biting moments. The scores were tight from the start and both pairs made many errors. The INA pair was quick to establish a 4 points advantage at 11-7 at the interval of the first set, but was levelled at 12-12. Then, the INA pair surged ahead again at 14-14 to find themselves holding 4 game points at 20-16, only for the serve to change hands to the Chinese pair, and Gao Ling's serves rattled the INA pair :mad: Zheng/Gao eventually managed to level it at 20-20 and even had a game point at 21-21. The first game point was saved by the INA pair, but, Nova made a crucial service error (at least 3-4 times this set in the less favoured court) and that resulted in another game point for the Chinese pair. They did not let slip of this advantage and finished the first set off 23-21 :crying:

The pattern pretty much similar in the second set as the INA pair always found themselves leading a few points only for the Chinese pair to level it at 7-7, 8-8 and then 18-18 in the crucial stage. Luckily for Nova/Butet, they did not let Zheng/Gao win anymore points as they took the second set 21-18.

In the rubber-set, it was the Chinese pair who had the early advantage at 6-3 and then 8-6. Nova/Butet did not give up and turned the situation into a slender lead at 11-9. Now, they switched to the more favoured court and continued to maintain the 2-points lead at 16-14 and then 19-17. The Chinese pair again levelled it at 19-19 to make it a real tense affair for the supporters of both teams. Eventually, the INA pair pulled it off with the final 2 points of the match. Nova/Butet won in three tight sets 20-22, 21-18, 21-19. Congrats!

Badmania, congrats again to your heros. Thought you wouldnt come in here tonite, busy celebrating with your favourite MD players. :D

And yes, looks like in HK Open, Kdio/Setiawan decided to really really go out, it's the last SS of year. In my humble opinion, they even played better than WC Semis & Finals cos Tony & Chandra were all over the court.

The 2 veterans improved much too.

Thanks....it was hard-fought game indeed and Tony/Candra DID GIVE their best!

No. I am one of INA want Tony-Chandra win... Both from INA...The coach not help them for this final I think... I don't like kido-hendra coach--Sigit Pamungkas.

CORRECTION: Tony/Candra is not a Pelatnas pair, so, no coach. Sigit Pamungkas is a nice guy :cool: He has certainly helped Kido/Hendra become a better pair this year.

I notice this is the 3rd time (since the World Championship), Kindra & Nolyn are champions on the same tournament.

PBSI should send them together to every tournament :D

Interestingly, Nova made this comment too during the dinner....won at the same time...losing also at the same time :eek:

haiya, i was watching tv live mah....:D:cool:
i cheer for him in front of the tv...
but unfortunately, he lost:crying::crying::crying::(:mad:

No wonder the "wave" I try to stir only few inches high!!!
Lee Chong Wei had done his part, Lin Dan simply was a better player on that day. It's kind of scary now that the big 3 from China are all playing so well and only Lee Chong Wei can "kungfu" with them, is about time some other players step in to help else if the big 3 all qualify for Olympic then MS title will belong to China.

i'm still replaying the md final video...... :)

mk/hs is not just a smashing machine like samuel882 said..
they're also dynamic and a tactical player

i'm still replaying the md final video...... :)

mk/hs is not just a smashing machine like samuel882 said..
they're also dynamic and a tactical player

agree. with their performance today, even Tony/Candra has nothing to counter. totally dominating.

i'm still replaying the md final video...... :)

mk/hs is not just a smashing machine like samuel882 said..
they're also dynamic and a tactical player

If they do not know about tactics, they would not have blown away the Chinese pair so easily yesterday :eek:

taufik-ist, where do you watch the video replay? I missed the MD finals..:( but glad to hear MK/HS won it..

taufik-ist, where do you watch the video replay? I missed the MD finals..:( but glad to hear MK/HS won it..

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=f...8086 c042d07d (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=fc8bf2939066462fb5ad86680473e66046518086 c042d07d) :D

or

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=742705&postcount=45

thanks!!!!:) cant wait to see it.

No wonder the "wave" I try to stir only few inches high!!!
Lee Chong Wei had done his part, Lin Dan simply was a better player on that day. It's kind of scary now that the big 3 from China are all playing so well and only Lee Chong Wei can "kungfu" with them, is about time some other players step in to help else if the big 3 all qualify for Olympic then MS title will belong to China.
Er, wasn't there someone named Taufik? :confused:

i'm still replaying the md final video...... :)

mk/hs is not just a smashing machine like samuel882 said..
they're also dynamic and a tactical player

The tactical part were demonstrated during WC 07 when they played CTF/LWW in Semis. changed strategy midway thru Game 2.

But like what Badmania says, they always seem to lose confidence when playing KKK/TBH (or Rexy found the way the beat them & KKK/TBH perfected it), so we didnt get to see much of their prowness lately.

Anyway, with this win, they'll be World no 1 again next week.

Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan HAVE WON 4 titles this year, including a World Championships, 2 back-to-back Super Series, and 1 GP Gold titles. The number is the same as Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun (4 Super Series titles) and still inferior to Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong (4 Super Series and 2 GP Gold titles), arguably their 2 most feared opponents in the past 2 years.

Many people are still yet to be convinced that they are a WORTHY WORLD CHAMPION. I hope Kido/Hendra's successful defense of BOTH the China and Hong Kong Opens titles will have silenced the critics :cool: They have an almost flawless record in Greater China region in the past 2 years, losing only 2 matches: both to Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun (1 in the inconsequential Group stage of the Invitational World Cup 2006 which Kido/Hendra eventually won and the other one was in the controversial China Masters Final in Chengdu this year).

Nevertheless, they show that they can also beat the pair which is regarded as the most consistent pair in recent years, Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun, TWICE in straight sets! In both matches, Fu/Cai were made to play so uncomfortably and become so frustrated at the end that they were not unable to play their normal game :rolleyes:

In the past two weeks, Kido/Hendra have beaten the World No 2 (Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun in the Hong Kong Open Semi-Final), World No 6 (Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya in the Hong Kong Open Final), World No 7 (Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen in the China Open Quarter-Final), World No 9 (Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo in the China Open Final), World No 12 (Tadashi Ohtsuka/Keita Masuda in the Hong Kong Open Quarter-Final).

Today's match against Tony/Candra was a match of two halves. In the first set, Kido/Hendra was the dominant pair from the beginning and they led 11-6 at the interval as they were in the favoured court. The gap increased from 5 to 10 points at 19-10 as the veteran pair could not cope with Kido/Hendra's strategy. Kido/Hendra eventually won the set 21-12.

Once they changed courts, the problems which we saw in Nova/Butet's earlier match started to appear in Kido/Hendra. Tony/Candra gained more confidence as the match wore on. Meanwhile, Hendra started to make a number of uncharacteristics errors, such as serving to the net (like Nova).Kido/Hendra were never leading in the second set, only managing to level the scores at 8-8 before Tony/Candra find their rhtym and extend their lead to 15-10. The younger pair staged a mini-comeback to narrow the gap to 16-18, but, it was not enough and Tony/Candra managed to force a rubber-game.

Knowing that they have to win as many points as possible as they were once again in the favoured court, Kido/Hendra attacked their seniors relentlessly and had a pretty comfortabe 11-6 lead at the interval. Back to the less favoured court, they played more cautiously and eventually they were not troubled at all. Kido/Hendra won the rubber-set 21-13.

So, overall, it's a perfect fortnight for fans of Kido/Hendra, being able to defend their titles against all odds and showing to the others that they are one of the strong contender for the Gold Medal in the Beijing Olympics 2008. The good record in China will further help their cause :rolleyes:

hendra, hendra!!! congratulations!!!
and to you too, markis!!!

just came home and checked the restults.. happy!!!

Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan HAVE WON 4 titles this year, including a World Championships, 2 back-to-back Super Series, and 1 GP Gold titles. The number is the same as Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun (4 Super Series titles) and still inferior to Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong (4 Super Series and 2 GP Gold titles), arguably their 2 most feared opponents in the past 2 years.

Many people are still yet to be convinced that they are a WORTHY WORLD CHAMPION. I hope Kido/Hendra's successful defense of BOTH the China and Hong Kong Opens titles will have silenced the critics :cool: They have an almost flawless record in Greater China region in the past 2 years, losing only 2 matches: both to Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun (1 in the inconsequential Group stage of the Invitational World Cup 2006 which Kido/Hendra eventually won and the other one was in the controversial China Masters Final in Chengdu this year).

Nevertheless, they show that they can also beat the pair which is regarded as the most consistent pair in recent years, Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun, TWICE in straight sets! In both matches, Fu/Cai were made to play so uncomfortably and become so frustrated at the end that they were not unable to play their normal game :rolleyes:

In the past two weeks, Kido/Hendra have beaten the World No 2 (Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun in the Hong Kong Open Semi-Final), World No 6 (Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya in the Hong Kong Open Final), World No 7 (Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen in the China Open Quarter-Final), World No 9 (Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo in the China Open Final), World No 12 (Tadashi Ohtsuka/Keita Masuda in the Hong Kong Open Quarter-Final).

Today's match against Tony/Candra was a match of two halves. In the first set, Kido/Hendra was the dominant pair from the beginning and they led 11-6 at the interval as they were in the favoured court. The gap increased from 5 to 10 points at 19-10 as the veteran pair could not cope with Kido/Hendra's strategy. Kido/Hendra eventually won the set 21-12.

Once they changed courts, the problems which we saw in Nova/Butet's earlier match started to appear in Kido/Hendra. Tony/Candra gained more confidence as the match wore on. Meanwhile, Hendra started to make a number of uncharacteristics errors, such as serving to the net (like Nova).Kido/Hendra were never leading in the second set, only managing to level the scores at 8-8 before Tony/Candra find their rhtym and extend their lead to 15-10. The younger pair staged a mini-comeback to narrow the gap to 16-18, but, it was not enough and Tony/Candra managed to force a rubber-game.

Knowing that they have to win as many points as possible as they were once again in the favoured court, Kido/Hendra attacked their seniors relentlessly and had a pretty comfortabe 11-6 lead at the interval. Back to the less favoured court, they played more cautiously and eventually they were not troubled at all. Kido/Hendra won the rubber-set 21-13.

So, overall, it's a perfect fortnight for fans of Kido/Hendra, being able to defend their titles against all odds and showing to the others that they are one of the strong contender for the Gold Medal in the Beijing Olympics 2008. The good record in China will further help their cause :rolleyes:

how about MK/HS's WR ranking next week ? will they be back to be #1 again :D

hendra, hendra!!! congratulations!!!
and to you too, markis!!!

just came home and checked the restults.. happy!!!

Yup....I am a happy man too :D They HAVE ACHIEVED HALF of their target of sweeping (SAPU BERSIH!) the tourneys they are going to be involved in. Two DOWN, two TO GO (the Gold Medals for SEA Games TEAM and INDIVIDUAL Events).

Yup....I am a happy man too :D They HAVE ACHIEVED HALF of their target of sweeping (SAPU BERSIH!) the tourneys they are going to be involved in. Two DOWN, two TO GO (the Gold Medals for SEA Games TEAM and INDIVIDUAL Events).

hope they can win sea games team and individual events too..
hey, did you say they were going to thailand tomorrow already???

how about MK/HS's WR ranking next week ? will they be back to be #1 again :D

I don't think soo :rolleyes:
Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong WILL REMAIN as World No 1 with 77714 points.

Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan WILL REPLACE Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun as World No 2 with 77489 points. Fu/Cai themselves will have 77213 points.

hope they can win sea games team and individual events too..
hey, did you say they were going to thailand tomorrow already???

A slight change in plan: they will return back to Jakarta tomorrow, then fly to Bangkok on Wednesday night. They were originally scheduled to depart on Tuesday :eek: So, now, they have two nights of rest at home....

A slight change in plan: they will return back to Jakarta tomorrow, then fly to Bangkok on Wednesday night. They were originally scheduled to depart on Tuesday :eek: So, now, they have two nights of rest at home....

good good.. must take care of their health.. sigh.. too stressed recently..

Interestingly, all the top 3 MD pairs have the SAME NUMBER OF LOSSES (those official results) after today.

Koo/Tan -- 10 losses (2 to Fu/Cai, 3 to MAS pairs, 1 to Luluk/Alvent, 1 to Tony/Candra, 3 to Japanese and Chinese-Taipei pairs)

Kido/Hendra -- 10 losses (4 to Koo/Tan, 2 to Choong/Lee, 1 to Fu/Cai, 1 to Luluk/Alvent, 1 to Jung/Lee, 1 to Han/Yoo)

Fu/Cai -- 10 losses (2 to Koo/Tan, 2 to Choong/Lee, 1 to Fairuz/Zakry, 1 to Tan/Ong, 1 to Kido/Hendra, 1 to Tony/Candra, 1 to Eriksen/Hansen, 1 to Paaske/Rasmussen).

sorry i was a little "blah"...
just so sick of ppl looking down on WD...
it can be fun to watch...if it were JJW/YW
but yah...it's all good

Exactly.....even the Chinese fans thought that the WD match is redundant :cool:

It's clearly on TV, Rudy and badmania shake hands and congratulating Markis/Hendra right after the match.
Couldn't recognize kwun though.

Which one is badmania?

It's clearly on TV, Rudy and badmania shake hands and congratulating Markis/Hendra right after the match.
Couldn't recognize kwun though.

I don't think soo :rolleyes:
Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong WILL REMAIN as World No 1 with 77714 points.

Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan WILL REPLACE Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun as World No 2 with 77489 points. Fu/Cai themselves will have 77213 points.

These 3 r the ones who deserved to be in the top rank in MD.So,whoever be the no 1,it's not really important.Their level,play..are the top form of the current MD game.They deserved some credits,regardless which country they r representing.:):)

Which one is badmania?

the one who uses glasses :D

Interestingly, all the top 3 MD pairs have the SAME NUMBER OF LOSSES (those official results) after today.

Koo/Tan -- 10 losses (2 to Fu/Cai, 3 to MAS pairs, 1 to Luluk/Alvent, 1 to Tony/Candra, 3 to Japanese and Chinese-Taipei pairs)

Kido/Hendra -- 10 losses (4 to Koo/Tan, 2 to Choong/Lee, 1 to Fu/Cai, 1 to Luluk/Alvent, 1 to Jung/Lee, 1 to Han/Yoo)

Fu/Cai -- 10 losses (2 to Koo/Tan, 2 to Choong/Lee, 1 to Fairuz/Zakry, 1 to Tan/Ong, 1 to Kido/Hendra, 1 to Tony/Candra, 1 to Eriksen/Hansen, 1 to Paaske/Rasmussen).


Very evenly match. Based on the stats.. who is the better pair?

It's clearly on TV, Rudy and badmania shake hands and congratulating Markis/Hendra right after the match.
Couldn't recognize kwun though.

saw saw saw.. so funny! :D:D:D where was fastdrop?? :confused:

bungkus.... see ya in masters... or cheers age group tomorrow.. hehe..




Hey extremenanopower,

What is this "age group" tomorrow ? :confused::confused::confused:



saw saw saw.. so funny! :D:D:D where was fastdrop?? :confused:




Hey yannie,

It's great that Kido/Setiawan managed to win ! :):):)

to those who missed the final of the HKO between Lee Chong Wei and Lin Dan...
RTM1 is showing delay telecast of that match now!!!!!