Malaysian Open 2008 - Day 2 - Jan 16 - First Round

[vching]

who rexymaina????

the correct question to ask is: what happened to rexymania?

[Misty100]

What if BCL loses to CYK, the bottom half draw will be wide open.

[misbun-s]

the correct question to ask is: what happened to rexymania?
i dont know him, maybe outstation:D:D:D:D

[Maximum]

ahhhhh!!! What happen to my ZN??? Jus came back from work n this is what happen to ZN???!!! Ahhhhhh!!!! :(

[vching]

Wong Choong Hann JIA YOU!!!!

KAMU BOLEH!!!
YOU CAN DO IT!!!

[samuel882]

ahhhhh!!! What happen to my ZN??? Jus came back from work n this is what happen to ZN???!!! Ahhhhhh!!!! :(
My condolence again :o

[vching]

16-11! Jia You!!!

Choong Hann, You Are The Best!!

[robin7]

Both WCH and LTS are doing well at this moment.

[vching]

My condolence again :o

this is really frustrating... the upsets that I paw don't happen... the upsets that i DONT paw happen...

[Misty100]

C'mon LTS, push further ahead... 12 : 7

[george@chongwei]

wat happened to tournamentsoftware??
y i cant open the link?

[vching]

choong hann at match point!!!! GOGOGO!!!

[X Ball]

Alfa -2 want some satays ?:D

[vching]

21-13 our Choong Hann won first set!

[robin7]

of course............who misty??:mad::mad::mad:
At 1st I also thought that u r rexymania, a member who likes to use different login. If u r not, welcome to the forum. Be nice to other members.

[Dreamzz]

yup, WCH off to a good start.
hopefully he can maintain his performance.

[Misty100]

lts result pls.....

Sorry dude, since you are so rude, i will stop posting scores. Maybe someone else might do you a favour.

[george@chongwei]

yess, WCH won the 1st set!...

[robin7]

Alfa -2 want some satays ?:D
So, did u manage to meet up with Hauge?

[george@chongwei]

Sorry dude, since you are so rude, i will stop posting scores. Maybe someone else might do you a favour.
haiya, juz newbie mah..:):p:D

[samuel882]

this is really frustrating... the upsets that I paw don't happen... the upsets that i DONT paw happen...
we could be the brothers in bottom table :crying:

[george@chongwei]

we could be the brothers in bottom table :crying:
while i think i will be coming up!!.
trying to getcha!

[jasonmarc]

yup, WCH off to a good start.
hopefully he can maintain his performance.

Yes,...hope he able to maintain it...and win this match:p........

[X Ball]

So, did u manage to meet up with Hauge?

Yes had dinner with Hauge and Ants last night - some seafood and wine.:D

You should have asked to be in.

[george@chongwei]

wow, WCH LEADING 4-0 IN THE 2ND SET!

[george@chongwei]

this shows that WCH is serious and wants to play in the olyimpic games!

[Misty100]

WCH is on fire, he is ahead with 6 points margin in 2nd set... keep it up WCH

[george@chongwei]

camon tsuen seng!
faster win the 2nd set...

[Misty100]

wow, 9 -point margin... WCH is on a roll

[X Ball]

WCH is a rejuvenated player -- hope he goes far this year.

[Misty100]

C'mon LTS, win the 2nd set!!!

[robin7]

wch wch wch wch wch wch

[samuel882]

Chen Hong is giving up this match

[Misty100]

WCH is rejuvenated, but CH seems lost.

[jasonmarc]

LTS....so well known with his low stamina level.....wonder he can sustain in rubber game...????

[taufik-ist]

hmmmm many ina players were down in early round :crying: :crying:

[shuzzack]

Wonder wats happen to CH..injured?

[Misty100]

LTS won 2nd set 21 : 19

[tohcsh]

Wch Wch Wch Wch Wch......

[robin7]

Yes had dinner with Hauge and Ants last night - some seafood and wine.:D

You should have asked to be in.
It's okay. We'll have dinner again this Sat/Sun, right?

[X Ball]

Wonder wats happen to CH..injured?

Probably not in form.

[Misty100]

WCH is 13 points ahead, surprisingly CH is not giving him much of a fight... wonder why.

[X Ball]

It's okay. We'll have dinner again this Sat/Sun, right?


I am only back on Sunday for the Finals. Got meeting in Singapore. Anyway, enjoy if you are down here.

[robin7]

WCH is the only MS player that we can count on besides LCW.

[alfa-2]

Alfa -2 want some satays ?:D

whats the deal?

[Misty100]

I think WCH will win, he don't have to be the MC this time round :p

[tohcsh]

WCH Yes! keep up the good play.

[damouse]

WCH is on fire...good for him. Really hope the old veteran can pull this off. He certainly is pulling out all stops.

Any updates on the LTS match? :)

[X Ball]

whats the deal?


Are u in KL ? If so, let us go satay tomorrow lunch ? I think I owe you ?

[Misty100]

WCH won in straight sets 21 : 13 , 21 : 8

[jasonmarc]

Wonder wats happen to CH..injured?

No,..maybe he is just not intend to play on...knowing that he is going to meet BCL in the next round.........:rolleyes:........and may again force to ......:cool:..
go shopping by LYB........:D:D:D

[tohcsh]

LTS match into rubber . Ng leading 5 - 3

[robin7]

Wong Choong Hann finally broke his jinx to be first-rounder by beating Chen Hong in straight sets 21-13 21-8.

[alfa-2]

Are u in KL ? If so, let us go satay tomorrow lunch ? I think I owe you ?

just came back from KL la this weekend. maybe will be heading there this coming weekend too...........but not going to MO though.

[samuel882]

Wong Choong Hann finally broke his jinx to be first-rounder by beating Chen Hong in straight sets 21-13 21-8.
He was a finalist in CM 1 '07

[taufik-ist]

ENDANG... ENDANG..... RATIH....RATIH

[apontoh]

ENDANG... ENDANG..... RATIH....RATIH
isn't it Endang/RANI? :)

[X Ball]

just came back from KL la this weekend. maybe will be heading there this coming weekend too...........but not going to MO though.

Not free this weekend. If you come to KL next time, give me a call.

[jasonmarc]

Jap cuties on court now........reiko and Kumiko

[taufik-ist]

isn't it Endang/RANI? :)

HE..HE you're rite... :D slip on typing :D

[samuel882]

REIKO.. REIKO.... OGURA... OGURA ...

[vching]

my post on Wong Choong Hann's victory:

The Badminton Blog - Maestro Wong STRIKES AGAIN! (http://thebadmintonblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/maestro-wong-strikes-again.html)

[robin7]

He was a finalist in CM 1 '07
I meant since the last few tournaments. U know what I meant, didn't u?:rolleyes:

[X Ball]

Jap cuties on court now........reiko and Kumiko

I bet your eyes are focused on this game.:D

[Misty100]

Too bad WCH will have to face BCL tmw. Would be really tough for him.

[robin7]

my post on Wong Choong Hann's victory:

The Badminton Blog - Maestro Wong STRIKES AGAIN! (http://thebadmintonblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/maestro-wong-strikes-again.html)
So, u were watching the match? The scoreline is lop-sided. It's either WCH playing very well or CH not in form.

[jasonmarc]

I bet your eyes are focused on this game.:D

:D:D:Dand my heart too.....:D:D:p:p

[X Ball]

my post on Wong Choong Hann's victory:

The Badminton Blog - Maestro Wong STRIKES AGAIN! (http://thebadmintonblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/maestro-wong-strikes-again.html)

THought you were coming home to buy me satay ?:D

[kevinboy]

LTS is in trouble? 8-10 in the third set

[apontoh]

endang/rani are doing well so far, 4-0....

[vching]

That's fast......

Haha... I type up reports when I'm certain of the result already :D:D:D:D

[taufik-ist]

I bet your eyes are focused on this game.:D

a bit offtopic:
hey.. xball.. have u met hauge ? :D :D ... :D

[vching]

THought you were coming home to buy me satay ?:D

Hmm... still owe you 10 (or was it 20?) sticks of satay...

Hope you won't be like the money lenders and charge interest...

[shuzzack]

c'mon LTS!!!!ganbatte ne!!

[george@chongwei]

WCH is the only MS player that we can count on besides LCW.
yep, u r right..:):)

[taufik-ist]

cmon... Rani/Endang... PUKUL HABIS germany pair :) :)

[Misty100]

LTS is a complete spentforce in the rubber.

[jasonmarc]

Like i said...LTS is running out of gas now.....losing

[taufik-ist]

Like i said...LTS is running out of gas now.....losing

the gas price is expensive rite now :D

[X Ball]

a bit offtopic:
hey.. xball.. have u met hauge ? :D :D ... :D

Had dinner with him and Ants last night. Talk about all your bad things.:D:D:D joking.

[X Ball]

Hmm... still owe you 10 (or was it 20?) sticks of satay...

Hope you won't be like the money lenders and charge interest...

1 satay per month interest.:D

[shuzzack]

lost already....

[robin7]

a bit offtopic:
hey.. xball.. have u met hauge ? :D :D ... :D
So, where r u now?

[taufik-ist]

Had dinner with him and Ants last night. Talk about all your bad things.:D:D:D joking.

i thought you got punched :D :D (...joking..)...

[taufik-ist]

So, where r u now?

i'm at home.... as usual... working..working :D

[samuel882]

Had dinner with him and Ants last night. Talk about all your bad things.:D:D:D joking.
Please send my regards to Fastdrop, hauge and Ants :)

[taufik-ist]

Please send my regards to Fastdrop, hauge and Ants :)

hey.. sam.. where r you... ? bangkok ?

[X Ball]

i thought you got punched :D :D (...joking..)...


Not when I am taller and bigger.:D

[taufik-ist]

yes... rani/endang took 1st set

[X Ball]

Please send my regards to Fastdrop, hauge and Ants :)

Sure if I see them again this Sunday. They are busy with the players from here onwards whereas I will be in the stand.

[samuel882]

hey.. sam.. where r you... ? bangkok ?
NO,
BUT going to Phuket on thursday
Too bad can't meet them in KL :crying:

[samuel882]

Sure if I see them again this Sunday. They are busy with the players from here onwards whereas I will be in the stand.
you should have ask ants intro u to Lee Chong Wei ;)

[X Ball]

you should have ask ants intro u to Lee Chong Wei ;)


One day I will ask them out for dinner.

[apontoh]

things are looking good for both INA WD.....:)

[taufik-ist]

you should have ask ants intro u to Lee Chong Wei ;)

yup... as a lcw's ardent fan... he should take a pic with lcw .. like i did .. with taufik hidayat..he...he :D

[taufik-ist]

i think both ina wds will win

[X Ball]

yup... as a lcw's ardent fan... he should take a pic with lcw .. like i did .. with taufik hidayat..he...he :D

I am a 'matured' fan. So no need -- my support in the stand is good enough for me.

[damouse]

Livescore is still acting up, huh? :(

Only three MAS single reps in round 2...hmmm.

[X Ball]

Livescore is still acting up, huh? :(

Only three MAS single reps in round 2...hmmm.

Safe enough. Don't you think ?

[taufik-ist]

I am a 'matured' fan. So no need -- my support in the stand is good enough for me.

it will be complete as a 'matured' fan... if you can take a pic with lcw :D :D :p

[taufik-ist]

Livescore is still acting up, huh? :(

Only three MAS single reps in round 2...hmmm.

don't be sad... ina has 3 ms reps in round 2 2 :D

[X Ball]

it will be complete as a 'matured' fan... if you can take a pic with lcw :D :D :p

Even better, if you come here, I will invite you for dinner together with LCW.

[MaLaYsIa Boleh!]

don't be sad... ina has 3 ms reps in round 2 2 :D
the same go for chn!
also 3 ms reps in round 2 :D:D

[eaglehelang]

WPT/CEH on court, they should clear this round

[X Ball]

the same go for chn!
also 3 ms reps in round 2 :D:D]

All is fair in sports they say.:D

[taufik-ist]

the same go for chn!
also 3 ms reps in round 2 :D:D


fair result for ms event.. he.he.. :D

[taufik-ist]

Even better, if you come here, I will invite you for dinner together with LCW.

2 bad... i can't be there :crying:.... thanks for your invitation :D... i hope we will meet in jakarta in the next thomas cup :D

[X Ball]

2 bad... i can't be there :crying:.... thanks for your invitation :D... i hope we will meet in jakarta in the next thomas cup :D


I booked to come in May -- got tickets cheap (RM 350 return inclusive tax). Got to look you up for my nasi padang :D

[taufik-ist]

add more oils.... cmon poli/jo......

[taufik-ist]

I booked to come in May -- got tickets cheap (RM 350 return inclusive tax). Got to look you up for my nasi padang :D

sh1t... you still remember that i owe you nasi padang :D

[X Ball]

sh1t... you still remember that i owe you nasi padang :D


You reminded me.:D

[badMania]

Better results from the WD as Jo Novita/Greysia Polii and Rani Mundiasti/Endang Nursugianti both progress to R16 after straight-sets victories over their opponents. They will face tougher opponents in Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jung and Kumiko Ogura/Reiko Shiota respectively tomorrow.

[taufik-ist]

alvent/luluk...... cmon guys.... please win the match... i don't wanna see mk/hs fight alone :)

[taufik-ist]

live score is "hang" :)

[eaglehelang]

The young Woon/Ooi are doing well surprising. Leading teh Denmark WD 17-7

[badMania]

alvent/luluk...... cmon guys.... please win the match... i don't wanna see mk/hs fight alone :)

Even if Luluk/Alvent win today, they will face Tony/Candra in R16.

[eaglehelang]

Wah, WPT/CET trashed the England WD in 24 min, 21-12, 21-4. Looks like England's new WD, never see their name bf.

Woon/Ooi tied 5-5 in 2nd set to Kamilla/Frier from Denmark

Gan/Lin are up against Lee/Jung. Should be interesting

[d65up2]

Go Korea!!! Jung and Lee should take this one

[d65up2]

Yes good one guys Jung-Lee leading...at leat one Korean rep in the round of 16 come on...I feel sorry for them

[d65up2]

Ayo Luluk.....Wong Yogya come on....show your Kraton power!!

[badMania]

Luluk/Alvent take the first set 21-10 in just 9 mins. Can they keep up the attacks in the second set?

[badMania]

Predictably, the MAS pair turns up the heat as they lead 11-3 now.

[eaglehelang]

Zakry/Fairuz another slow starter. took 2nd set 21-13
Gan/Lin already lost to Lee/Jung in straight sets

[badMania]

Fang Chieh-Min/Lee Sheng-Mu are doing well against Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya so far.

[TH_4_President]

come on Lukvent..burn it out!!! kick dwarfs out of Arena!!

[eaglehelang]

TH4 President very patriotic. Come on Courageous Shortie/Fuzzy. Show them being short is no push-over!

[zqloy]

come on Lukvent..burn it out!!! kick dwarfs out of Arena!!

Hey, Luluk is not that tall either! :mad:

[badMania]

As usual, Luluk/Alvent lost their concentration...this time at 10-11, they let the MAS pair win 8 straight pts.

[badMania]

Another early round defeat for Luluk/Alvent as they lost to Fairuz/Zakry in rubber-sets 21-10, 13-21, 12-21.

[Tjun Tjun]

Fuzzy & Zakry win! Hooray!

[eaglehelang]

Hey, Luluk is not that tall either! :mad:

Zakry is shorter than most male players at 168 cm. Anyway, good that Courageous Shortie/Fuzzy made it thru. Looks like they'll be meeting Tony/Chandra tomm but they cant be slow starters with the oldies.

[F-38-I]

So far ina's good result is only in ms & wd. I put some hope for our wd and also andre <tommy sugiarto lewat-lah!>. Good luck tomorrow!

[badMania]

Meanwhile, Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya progress to R16 after a straight-set 21-16, 21-7 victory over Fang Chieh-Min/Lee Sheng-Mu. They will face Fairuz/Zakry tomorrow.

Now on to the last match of the day...Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan vs Robert Adcock/Robin Middleton.

[TH_4_President]

What a reckless failure made by lukvent..I think it's time to separate them..maybe it would be better Alvent/Joko Riyadi

[badMania]

Updated list of fallen INA players after R32:

MEN'S SINGLES
Tommy Sugiarto
Alamsyah Yunus
Sony Dwi Kuncoro

WOMEN'S SINGLES
Adriyanti Firdasari
Pia Bernadet Zebadiah

MEN'S DOUBLES
Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi
Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto
Bona Septano/Mohd Ahsan

WOMEN'S DOUBLES
Lita Nurlita/Nitya Krishinda
Meiliana Jauhari/Shendy Puspa Irawati (Djarum)

MIXED DOUBLES
Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa [4]
Mohd Rijal/Greysia Polii
Devin Lahardi/Lita Nurlita

[zqloy]

Zakry is shorter than most male players at 168 cm. Anyway, good that Courageous Shortie/Fuzzy made it thru. Looks like they'll be meeting Tony/Chandra tomm but they cant be slow starters with the oldies.

Zakry's game is ok, he is very good at the net. However, i cannot bear Fairuz's play, hate to watch his "low quality" drop shots which he tend to do too often....

[eaglehelang]

Zakry's game is ok, he is very good at the net. However, i cannot bear Fairuz's play, hate to watch his "low quality" drop shots which he tend to do too often....

That's why my nickname for Zakry is Courageous Shortie - the shorter guy but more aggressive than his taller partner. Stimes Zakry smash also better than Fairuz.
But Fairuz has improved in recent months - Copenhagen Masters was last time I watched them. Anyway, they did manage to beat Fu/Cai in China Open, so, skill wise, Rexy has taught them well.

Some BCer think Zakry/Fairuz should be separated due to Fairuz's nervousness and all. But Zakry actually produced better results with Fairuz than Gan TC. Now they're Msia 3rd MD pair, bf Zakry/Gan were 5th pair.

[eaglehelang]

Whoops, seems Kido/Setiawan also having prob getting their engine moving right. Won 1st set, lost 2nd set 21-16, now rubber.
A lot of the top seeds didnt get their engine started properly today.

[zqloy]

That's why my nickname for Zakry is Courageous Shortie - the shorter guy but more aggressive than his taller partner. Stimes Zakry smash also better than Fairuz.
But Fairuz has improved in recent months - Copenhagen Masters was last time I watched them. Anyway, they did manage to beat Fu/Cai in China Open, so, skill wise, Rexy has taught them well.

Some BCer think Zakry/Fairuz should be separated due to Fairuz's nervousness and all. But Zakry actually produced better results with Fairuz than Gan TC. Now they're Msia 3rd MD pair, bf Zakry/Gan were 5th pair.

I hv a feeling that they r an ok pair, might create some upset sometimes but wont win anything big. Zakry might be better off partnering with Lin Woon Fui. Lin is really wasted partnering GTC.....

[eaglehelang]

Zqloy, they wont change partners until after OG. They have to collect points for OG.

After OG, CTF/LWW most prob retire, could be a lot of changes too all around with the team.

[skunklover]

well, thats day 2, now for day 3...

[eaglehelang]

Not yet finish, one more match

[eaglehelang]

ok, finally, Kido/Setiawan took the 3rd set against the British 21-16.
Badmania, you can cheer for your heros tomm.

[badMania]

Phew....it finally ends. Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan beat Robert Adcock/Robin Middleton 21-9, 16-21, 21-16. They will face Roman Spitko/Michael Fuchs in R16 tomorrow.

[skunklover]

NOW, its time for day 3...its gonna get interesting.... to the next thread!!!

[Tommy Susanto]

upsets!!
unknown player CICOGNINI FROM SWITZERLAND WIN IN RUBBER SET OVER SPORE`S LI LI
No No No:mad::o:(:eek::crying::crying::crying:

[samuel882]

Even Taufik himself admitted in an aftermatch interview with press, if the controvesial points not given to his favour, he would have lost the match against the Korean.

[samuel882]

List of casualties for MAS team

XD
1. Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei
-- Depite all the effort from coaches, they never seem to be grown up :mad:

WS
1. Julia Wong Pei Xian
-- An expected defeat to fellow Wong Mew Choo

2. Anita Raj Kaur
-- Put up a titanic fight with the experince Yao Jie in the first set, credit must be given to this fearless young lady

3. Lydia Cheah Li Ya
-- The ellergent french proove too strong for her..;)


MS
1. Hafiz Hashim
-- Nothing more to say about :p

2. Roslin Hashim
-- A big blow for his Qualification of Olympics

3. Tan Chun Seang
- Leading for such a big margin , yet lose the game which he not suppose to.

4. Yeoh Kay Bin
- No Hopers, can't even put up a great fight

5. Lee Tsuen Seng
- As usual, lost tamely in the decider due to poor stamina.


WD
1. Ooi yu Yang/ Woon Khe Wei
-- Don't know whats went wrong with Khe Wei, but she got more potential in WD rather than with her regular partner in XD events :rolleyes:

2. Ng Hui Lin/ Goh Liu Ying
-- The mighty Chinese just too much for them :o


MD
1. Gan Teik Chai/ Lin Woon Fui
-- Once again, failed miserably in opening round. can't even put up some great fights. Hopeless :mad:

2. Hoon thien How/ Tan Wee Kiong
-- A potential pair for the future.. WK Tan should concentrate on MD since the XD pairing with WKW doesn't click at all. :(

[eaglehelang]

List of casualties for MAS team

XD
1. Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei
-- Depite all the effort from coaches, they never seem to be grown up :mad:

WD
1. Ooi yu Yang/ Woon Khe Wei
-- Don't know whats went wrong with Khe Wei, but she got more potential in WD rather than with her regular partner in XD events :rolleyes:

2. Ng Hui Lin/ Goh Liu Ying
-- The mighty Chinese just too much for them :o


2. Hoon thien How/ Tan Wee Kiong
-- A potential pair for the future.. WK Tan should concentrate on MD since the XD pairing with WKW doesn't click at all. :(

Wee Kiong/Woon in XD- they're goin thru some dry time, maybe their opponents read their game. They're still highest ranking Msia XD at no 30.
I wouldnt say they dont click at all - they wouldnt have won Asia Juniors last year if they didnt. Playing in 'major league' is sthing they must learn.

Lim Khim Wah/Ng Hui Lin, the World Junior Champs didnt even get thru qualifiers. Both pairs have better prospect in XD than MD or WD.


WD: Woon - she used to be with Goh LY, this year changed to Ooi, maybe that's the factor they're better, Ooi has more experience internationally, I think.
Salute them for giving a fight to the World No 15 Danes

MD: Wee Kiong, by sheer fact there are 6 senior MD, should concentrate on XD. No matter what the other seniors will be 1st choice in team events, WC, OG. But playing MD with Hoon will give Wee Kiong might improve his game, playing with a more senior partner that is.

[abedeng]

Saw Zakry/Fairuz play in the 1st game, they were totally at sea, until Rexy moved over from Wong/Chin's completed match and sat beside YKH.

Not a good sign, shows that they are overly dependent on Rexy.

The juniors generally gave decent performances, but their games are all too one-dimensional, once the opponents understood it, it was game over.

[eaglehelang]

Saw Zakry/Fairuz play in the 1st game, they were totally at sea, until Rexy moved over from Wong/Chin's completed match and sat beside YKH.

Not a good sign, shows that they are overly dependent on Rexy.

.

Or nerves hit them. They could beat Lars/Jonas all on their own, without any coach in Copenhagen Masters in Dec.

[samuel882]

Or nerves hit them. They could beat Lars/Jonas all on their own, without any coach in Copenhagen Masters in Dec.
That also shows how unstable they were.

[cooler]

Or nerves hit them. They could beat Lars/Jonas all on their own, without any coach in Copenhagen Masters in Dec.

lars/jonas have learned from the CO. Don't expect a cake walk for MAL MD teams. Rexy better figure out lars/jonas soon or else one more MAL team to fall soon.

[samuel882]

lars/jonas have learned from the CO. Don't expect a cake walk for MAL MD teams. Rexy better figure out lars/jonas soon or else one more MAL team to fall soon.
U are right , Rexy have more jobs to do now. He not only need to focus on Taiwan & japanese pair, more headache for him now.

[eaglehelang]

That also shows how unstable they were.

More like pressure & inconsistency. In Copenhagen, they were all fired up, dont seem to have any pressure.

Lose some, win some, both the Korea MD pairs also lost early. I sorta expected Zakry/Fairuz to lose to Tony/Chandra. In HK Open, can see Tony/Chandra have improved much .



lars/jonas have learned from the CO. Don't expect a cake walk for MAL MD teams. Rexy better figure out lars/jonas soon or else one more MAL team to fall soon.

Copenhagen was against Zakry/Fairuz. They play a bit different. Lar/Jonas arent new rookies, been around years, so have CTF/LWW. They would know each other's game by now.
LWW havent fully recovered from injury. + Rexy now must also take care of WD. Lars/Jonas also stimes win, stimes lose.

[badMania]

Lose some, win some, both the Korea MD pairs also lost early. I sorta expected Zakry/Fairuz to lose to Tony/Chandra. In HK Open, can see Tony/Chandra have improved much .


Tony/Candra do not need to improve since they are already an Olympic Gold Medallist :D Technically, they are still superior to the other MD that we have in our stable, like Luluk/Alvent and AG/Joko. What they need is to play smarter and wiser.

[ctjcad]

Tony/Candra do not need to improve since they are already an Olympic Gold Medallist :D Technically, they are still superior to the other MD that we have in our stable, like Luluk/Alvent and AG/Joko. What they need is to play smarter and wiser
..they're not "smarter" and "wiser" than the other younger opponents??..:confused:..Could it be their physical factor/stamina/age that are holding them back??..;)

[morphy]

..they're not "smarter" and "wiser" than the other younger opponents??..:confused:..Could it be their physical factor/stamina/age that are holding them back??..;)
I think what BadMania meant was they have the advantage in experience/smarts/tactics and should use it more over the younger players. The younger players may have more stamina,stronger and faster but not as experienced...so basically he is saying they should use that experience more instead of playing to the younger opponent's strength.

oh hello BC :)

[ctjcad]

I think what BadMania meant was they have the advantage in experience/smarts/tactics and should use it more over the younger players. The younger players may have more stamina,stronger and faster but not as experienced...so basically he is saying they should use that experience more instead of playing to the younger opponent's strength.

oh hello BC :)
..so, you don't think Candra & Tony haven't used their experience/smarts/tactics more over their younger players in all of last yr's SS tourneys??:confused:..And Tony & Candra haven't used their experience more but rather have been playing to their younger opponents' strength during last yr's SS tourneys??..:confused:
IMO, the vets have done all of those you've mentioned up til now, esp. after playing in nearly 12 SS events. Some would say their lack of training time together etc. is a factor. But IMO, they're "prime" time had past. In other words, age has caught up to them..:p
But to be fair, yes, they showed up their talents by defending & winning the 2007 Japan Open tourney. And they're still marching on, entertaining all of us baddy fanatics with whatever ounces of energy left in their bodies, this yr..:cool:

And yes, hi to you too, morphy..Welcome to BC & glad to have you here!;):cool:

[morphy]

lol don't shoot the messenger. I'm just 'translating' what I thought Badmania meant but of course he can speak for himself, don't need me to do that ;).

And Thank You for the welcome. :)
its so hard to follow Int badminton where I am, not even a newspaper clipping. So this is like my only source for everything badminton.

[ctjcad]

And Thank You for the welcome. :)
its so hard to follow Int badminton where I am, not even a newspaper clipping. So this is like my only source for everything badminton.
...in this sub-forum, below..Hope you can make an Intro. in there cos many BCers will surely welcome you!;):cool:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=75

..well, thankfully there's BC, a place where all of us baddy fans can congregate..and talk about this sport..;):cool:

[morphy]

But IMO, they're "prime" time had past. In other words, age has caught up to them..:p


You're right tho in that eventually age will catch up no matter who you are or how experienced you are simply because its a young person's sport. One can only rely on experience so much. Otherwise we'll still see Punch and Hartono still going at it lol.

[eaglehelang]

Tony/Candra do not need to improve since they are already an Olympic Gold Medallist :D Technically, they are still superior to the other MD that we have in our stable, like Luluk/Alvent and AG/Joko. What they need is to play smarter and wiser.

He, he, seems morphy & ctjcad already 'analysed' your post. I saw Tony/Chandra improve in terms of speed & combination - last quarter of 2007. I should say : they got back their old magic touch, in spite of not training much together.

On a good day, I believe they can still beat your heros, being a 'wiser' senior pair - that's why they're OG champ.

[badMania]

..they're not "smarter" and "wiser" than the other younger opponents??..:confused:..Could it be their physical factor/stamina/age that are holding them back??..;)

Age definitely plays a factor and that's why they need to refine their tactics when they play against the young and dangerous pairs like Fairuz/Zakry, Koo/Tan, and Kido/Hendra.

One example is when they faced Koo/Tan in the QF of the HK Open. All of us present on that night thought it would be a lost cause, esp after they yielded easily to Koo/Tan. However, they changed their tactic and managed to turn the match the other way round. That's what I meant by playing "smarter" and "wiser", in the midst of gameplay. Many young pairs that we have still have a lot to learn from the veteran pair in this aspect.

But still, they lost to the younger and more aggressive Kido/Hendra in the Final :cool: Tony admitted afterwards that they couldn't match the younger pair in terms of speed and stamina.

[ctjcad]

One example is when they faced Koo/Tan in the QF of the HK Open. All of us present on that night thought it would be a lost cause, esp after they yielded easily to Koo/Tan. However, they changed their tactic and managed to turn the match the other way round. That's what I meant by playing "smarter" and "wiser", in the midst of gameplay. Many young pairs that we have still have a lot to learn from the veteran pair in this aspect.
..don't you think Tony & Candra have been doing that, or at least tried to do that, esp during the many tourneys they participated in, last yr??..:confused: ;)..IMO, i'm sure they're aware of what they have to do or at least tried to do what you wrote>play "smarter" and "wiser"..:cool:

[badMania]

..don't you think Tony & Candra have been doing that, or at least tried to do that, esp during the many tourneys they participated in, last yr??..:confused: ;)..IMO, i'm sure they're aware of what they have to do or at least tried to do what you wrote>play "smarter" and "wiser"..:cool:

Well, they are aware of this problem, but, if they have yet to solve the problem completely ;) Otherwise, they will be conquering the MD yet again like Candra/Sigit did in 2005, despite the presence of younger pairs like Fu/Cai and Chan/Koo.

[ctjcad]

Well, they are aware of this problem, but, if they have yet to solve the problem completely ;) Otherwise, they will be conquering the MD yet again like Candra/Sigit did in 2005, despite the presence of younger pairs like Fu/Cai and Chan/Koo.
..if (like you wrote) they are aware of what they have to do, then wouldn't that eliminate the need for them to play "wiser" and "smarter"?? I mean, they know/are aware they have to do those, right?? Thus, possibly, they haven't solved their "problem" because of other factor(s)??..
Btw, how many titles did the "younger" Candra & Sigit win in 2005?? sorry, i don't recall..:p

[badMania]

..if (like you wrote) they are aware of what they have to do, then wouldn't that eliminate the need for them to play "wiser" and "smarter"?? I mean, they know/are aware they have to do those, right?? Thus, possibly, they haven't solved their "problem" because of other factor(s)??..
Btw, how many titles did the "younger" Candra & Sigit win in 2005?? sorry, i don't recall..:p

Even though they know, they will still have to remind themselves everytime though ;)

In 2005 alone, Candra/Sigit won 4 titles (China Opens, Swiss, Singapore and Malaysia Opens 2005) and were Runner-Ups in 4 Events (Korea, Japan, World Championships and Indonesia Opens 2005). The only 2 events they failed to enter QF in 2005 were the All-England and HK Opens). They won another China Open back in 2004

[ctjcad]

Even though they know, they will still have to remind themselves everytime though ;)
..of course....and that applies to most if not all players/doubles pairs, not just them...:cool:
Btw, thanks for the infos of Sigit's & Candra's 2005 record...