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winnie
01-20-2008, 05:04 AM
11-10 favouring danes..
interval break now..
hope danes could win

kwun
01-20-2008, 05:04 AM
YES! JR/LP lead into interval. change sides.

DEN 11-10 INA

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:05 AM
Oh No this is no good....Come on INA national pride on the line here...Wake up guys!!!

shanisen3200
01-20-2008, 05:05 AM
INA pair cannot play at the net as they are before

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:05 AM
Hendra Ayo!!!! Dun make us crazy......Come on guys!!!!

abedeng
01-20-2008, 05:06 AM
Hendra flies like a squirrel.

Tjun Tjun
01-20-2008, 05:06 AM
After numerous smashes INA gets another point....12-11......

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:06 AM
Come on Hendra 11-11....Come on come on push for tanah air!!! Come on

ctjcad
01-20-2008, 05:06 AM
..our Hau-ge must be getting reeeeeeal nervous now...:rolleyes: :p

Tjun Tjun
01-20-2008, 05:07 AM
Paaske smashes ....12-12.........

shanisen3200
01-20-2008, 05:07 AM
12-12 oh my heart will go on

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:07 AM
Come on Guys...Kindra ayo donk...You are driving us insane here......I wanna piss on my pants now

samuel882
01-20-2008, 05:07 AM
keep sending the shuttle to MK !

Tjun Tjun
01-20-2008, 05:07 AM
Mistake by Kido 13-13........

abedeng
01-20-2008, 05:07 AM
Somebody teach the Danes how to serve.

INA push out, followed by good Paaske placement.

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:07 AM
Kindra Ayo donk retake the lead...come on come on

stork
01-20-2008, 05:07 AM
very close DK 14 : INA 13

Tjun Tjun
01-20-2008, 05:08 AM
Flat crosscourt drive by JR .....14-13......

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:08 AM
Oh no its over...the Danes retake the lead...Its over

tohcsh
01-20-2008, 05:08 AM
come on PAAS and RAS!

samuel882
01-20-2008, 05:08 AM
15-14, its gona be down to wire

abedeng
01-20-2008, 05:08 AM
Hauge is still cool, Kido is not.

Tjun Tjun
01-20-2008, 05:08 AM
Good teamwork by Danes....15-14.......

shanisen3200
01-20-2008, 05:08 AM
play faster INA that will help you win this game
focus on JR

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:09 AM
Come on GUys....Kindra Kindra come on dun do this to us

tohcsh
01-20-2008, 05:09 AM
come on PAAS and RAS end the game with pride!

kwun
01-20-2008, 05:09 AM
JONAS! clap clap, clap clap!!

LARS! clap clap, clap clap!!

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:09 AM
Come on guys Indonesia have nothing else...it all depends on you

kwun
01-20-2008, 05:09 AM
15-15. can the game be any more tighter??

shanisen3200
01-20-2008, 05:09 AM
15-15 what 's the score !

Tjun Tjun
01-20-2008, 05:09 AM
Setiawan controlling the front court....15-15...16-15......

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:10 AM
INDONESIA INDONESIA INDONESIA INDONESIA

AYo AYo AYo INdonesia

tohcsh
01-20-2008, 05:10 AM
dance dance dance dance

samuel882
01-20-2008, 05:10 AM
MK backhand is poor

badboypedi
01-20-2008, 05:10 AM
oh man, the rubber set is really closed...what a suspense....

abedeng
01-20-2008, 05:10 AM
Hendra is salvaging INA's game with lighning interceptions, but work is undone by Kido's mistakes.

Erwin Kyoto
01-20-2008, 05:10 AM
cmon....Kido cross jumping smash....and cmon..Setyawan play nice in netting...

kwun
01-20-2008, 05:10 AM
16-16... come on, pull a lead, JR/LP.

shanisen3200
01-20-2008, 05:10 AM
16-16 I think I should some medicines rights now

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:10 AM
COme on COme on....Don't lose please please....You are the hope of INA

shanisen3200
01-20-2008, 05:11 AM
17-16 keep going INA

stork
01-20-2008, 05:11 AM
crunch time coming now: DK 17 : INA 17

tohcsh
01-20-2008, 05:11 AM
17 all! yes yes yes come on RAs and PAAs

Tjun Tjun
01-20-2008, 05:11 AM
Danes keep on smashing .....17-17.......

kwun
01-20-2008, 05:11 AM
and 17-17 now. let's go all the way up to 30-29. :)

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:11 AM
Take another one 17-16 come on come on!

abedeng
01-20-2008, 05:11 AM
Now Hauge looks a bit worried, looking for divine intervention.

TH_4_President
01-20-2008, 05:11 AM
Hendra..KIdo..Go GO GO!!! IN-DO-NE-SIA!!! JAYA!!!

Tjun Tjun
01-20-2008, 05:11 AM
Now the lead back to INA with Kido big smash.....18-17........

shanisen3200
01-20-2008, 05:11 AM
come on MK and HS <br>

carine
01-20-2008, 05:11 AM
come on MK/HS.....

tohcsh
01-20-2008, 05:11 AM
come on guys... towel up!

samuel882
01-20-2008, 05:11 AM
u take one pt, i win the next
What a thriller in the decider

jasonmarc
01-20-2008, 05:12 AM
A very-very close one,.......by the way,..i kind of feel like abedeng is stalking Hau-ge? hahahaha

shanisen3200
01-20-2008, 05:12 AM
Indonesia Indonesia

kwun
01-20-2008, 05:12 AM
aiyor.. INA now have 2 pt lead. 19-17.

Tjun Tjun
01-20-2008, 05:12 AM
3 match points to INA........20-17..........

abedeng
01-20-2008, 05:12 AM
Jonas's hesitance gives INA 3 matchpts, 1 saved.

shanisen3200
01-20-2008, 05:12 AM
only 1 point go

Erwin Kyoto
01-20-2008, 05:12 AM
cmon KinDra...one title in MAS SS pls...same like MAS and DEN....

tohcsh
01-20-2008, 05:12 AM
clap clap clap come one please win la Denmark

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:12 AM
Game Point come on!!!

extremenanopowe
01-20-2008, 05:12 AM
Indonesia BISA!!!

carine
01-20-2008, 05:13 AM
match point for MK/HS

kwun
01-20-2008, 05:13 AM
18-20. there is still hope. just need to FOCUS!!!

Tjun Tjun
01-20-2008, 05:13 AM
Danes not giving up...18-20.....

tohcsh
01-20-2008, 05:13 AM
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad:

carine
01-20-2008, 05:14 AM
yes,MK/HS won it...

Tjun Tjun
01-20-2008, 05:14 AM
INA celebrating......heartbreaking for the Danes......

ctjcad
01-20-2008, 05:14 AM
3 match points to INA........20-17..........
....????....oh nooooo....

kwun
01-20-2008, 05:14 AM
and Markis/Hendra takes it.

Markis Kido / Hendra Setiawan beats Jonas Rasmussen / Lars Paaske

21-10 / 22-20 / 21-18.

very close 2nd and 3rd games.

congrats to Markis/Hendra

tohcsh
01-20-2008, 05:14 AM
off my tv liao . dont want to hear the noise!

Jessica
01-20-2008, 05:14 AM
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad:
What are you angry about???:confused:

shanisen3200
01-20-2008, 05:14 AM
Oh INA win yeah
the greatest match of this day
Thanks to both pairs , they do the good job

abedeng
01-20-2008, 05:14 AM
Hauge claps happily, INA wins on account of the Danes' bad serving.

Otherwise, Danes actually had a slight edge.

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:14 AM
Yesssss!!!! Yesss!!!!!!!!! Juara Juara!!!! Indonesia Indonesia Juara Juara!!!!

winnie
01-20-2008, 05:14 AM
good play fr danes..
anyway, congrates to mk/hs ;)

extremenanopowe
01-20-2008, 05:14 AM
well done to chilli padi and partner....taniah!

Tjun Tjun
01-20-2008, 05:15 AM
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad:

No words needed, I understand! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

pauline
01-20-2008, 05:15 AM
haizz...so close...congrats Kindra! and congrats JR/LP too!

shanisen3200
01-20-2008, 05:15 AM
What are you angry about???:confused:


ThaT i want to know:rolleyes::rolleyes:

samuel882
01-20-2008, 05:15 AM
Oh INA win yeah
the greatest match of this day
Thanks to both pairs , they do the good job
I don't think so :p

TH_4_President
01-20-2008, 05:15 AM
Yes!!!! yihuuuu...INDONESIA BISA!! We're goood!!! hehehe :D:D:D

jasonmarc
01-20-2008, 05:15 AM
Congaratulation to MK/HS.......well done

And what a great come back to JR/LP.....U guys are back to the form U used to have in 2003....only the poor serves...sorry to say.

Jessica
01-20-2008, 05:16 AM
No words needed, I understand! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Tjun..Tell me,i don't understand...:D:(

shanisen3200
01-20-2008, 05:16 AM
Congaratulation to MK/HS.......well done

And what a great come back to JR/LP.....U guys are back to the form U used to have in 2003....only the poor serves...sorry to say.

but that 's the trust

CLELY
01-20-2008, 05:16 AM
Yes! What a thriller scene, Kido/Setiawan finally close the decider with 21-18. Hidup INDONESIA....

morphy
01-20-2008, 05:17 AM
grats MK/HS 3 straight SS titles ;)

abedeng
01-20-2008, 05:17 AM
Other than his smashes, Kido was ineffective today. It was Hendra who carried him through. However, Hendra is still responsible for losing the 2nd game.

The Danes found their form late, but was always limited by service errors.

Jessica
01-20-2008, 05:17 AM
Wow..Kido/Setiawan win three Super Series title in a row..Can take make it four in next week Korea SS???

shanisen3200
01-20-2008, 05:17 AM
I don't think so :p

oop!! how i forgot the WS :p:p

morphy
01-20-2008, 05:18 AM
this might sound strange but I think the WS was the best match of the day :eek::eek:

chris-ccc
01-20-2008, 05:20 AM
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You win again yannie. :D:D:D


Well Done MK/HS !!! ;););)

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Erwin Kyoto
01-20-2008, 05:20 AM
yes....thnks Kido/Hendra...
if I m not mistaken...with this title,
Kido/Setyawan make new record...the 3rd title MD of SS successive
and be World Champ and WORLD No. 1.....

congret for this...

Tjun Tjun
01-20-2008, 05:22 AM
Tjun..Tell me,i don't understand...:D:(

His idols lost lor.......

ctjcad
01-20-2008, 05:22 AM
Oh INA win yeah
the greatest match of this day
Thanks to both pairs , they do the good job
..yeah, arguably, just by reading the posts already made us sweat...too bad we weren't able to witness this match thru webcast...imagine watching it on TV/webstream or even live @ the stadium...NERVE-WRECKING!!:eek::cool:

Hauge claps happily, INA wins on account of the Danes' bad serving.

Otherwise, Danes actually had a slight edge.
...did he go and congratulate the INA pair at the court, again???..:confused::p;)

Anyway, very good effort by the Danes vets and for Jonas! So very close! Keep on working hard and hope to see you guys come out successful in the rest of the SS tourneys and Olympics!!;):cool:http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

samuel882
01-20-2008, 05:22 AM
Wow..Kido/Setiawan win three Super Series title in a row..Can take make it four in next week Korea SS???
They can keep on winning.. until the Olympics and someone will stop them from winning the Gold :D

F-38-I
01-20-2008, 05:22 AM
Finally i post a comment here, after looking the real livescore from you guys. I almost couldnt breath at everypoint you've described here,especially in 2nd&3rd set. Hupf,after kido/hendra win,now is the time to say congrat to them & also jonas/lars

Jessica
01-20-2008, 05:23 AM
yes....thnks Kido/Hendra...
if I m not mistaken...with this title,
Kido/Setyawan make new record...the 3rd title MD of SS successive
and be World Champ and WORLD No. 1.....

congret for this...
Erwin..Long time no see...Don't worry,they will become the world No 1 next week..:p

pauline
01-20-2008, 05:23 AM
this might sound strange but I think the WS was the best match of the day :eek::eek:
Yeap,me too.It's exciting throughout the match.

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:25 AM
I think Kindra is world no 1 by now aren't they??? I mean....they did very well to win...Although I am very much in doubt they can win the Korean SUper Series next week...lets hope so

Erwin Kyoto
01-20-2008, 05:27 AM
Erwin..Long time no see...Don't worry,they will become the world No 1 next week..:p

hehehe me to...
bcause long time for waiting Kido/Setyawan"s action in SS after Hongkong SS 2007...:D:p

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:28 AM
Yes Kido Hendra You Are The Man...our Hero Our Pride....well Done

jump_smashing
01-20-2008, 05:32 AM
congratulate to all winner ..

Good performance for new comer He Hanbin & Tine Rasmussen thou :-D

Lee Chong Wei still proves his self as the best at home ground, beside taufik hidayat & peter gade.

Zhang Jiewen & Yang Wei still as hardly to beat duo

Markis Kido & Hendra Setiawan 3 titles back to back ... great performance

see you guys all in Korea Open 2008 ;-)

Felix.
01-20-2008, 05:32 AM
Congrats to Tine!
I think the whole stadium gained a whole new respect for her for slugging it out in the end.

I thought the WD was very exciting with superb rallies at times.

MS is kinda snoozefest because you just know LCW is going to win.

Congrats to HK/MS. Three SS in a row is huge. I think it's safe to say that the gold medal is theirs to lose.

robin7
01-20-2008, 05:32 AM
CHN 2
MAS 1
INA 1
DEN 1

Too bad, KOR couldn't steal a XD title from CHN. Otherwise, it would be great.

eaglehelang
01-20-2008, 05:37 AM
congrats to mighty mouse/mighty pillar!

Now that all the matches are finished, during MS, there was 1 young man in white T-shirt that the camera showed. He stood up in 3rd set to cheer very enthusisatically for LCW. Is that our george@cw?

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:38 AM
I almost pissed on my pants during the MD final...but very well Kindra won it...is very good I think

ericksakti
01-20-2008, 05:40 AM
They can keep on winning.. until the Olympics and someone will stop them from winning the Gold :D

hmmm yeah probably luluk/alvent or hendra/joko will stop them from winning it ^^

cute_tbh
01-20-2008, 06:35 AM
congrats to kido and setiawan... they played very well..handled the pressure and their skills are superb...but..looking back..i can't help but to wonder that they will only win when kkk/tbh and fu/cai lost...most of the tournaments that they have won, they won it without having to meet these two pairs...but if they met these two pairs, for example kkk/tbh, they never won any of their meetings...the same goes when they met cai/fu...if i'm not mistaken, all the ss that they won in 2007, they won it without beating any of these two pairs (except for HK open)...its as if they could play well when playing against other pairs, but not when playing against these two pairs....hmmm....so...kido and setiawan...they are still behind kkk/tbh and cai/fu...

chris-ccc
01-20-2008, 06:52 AM
Now that all the matches are finished, during MS, there was 1 young man in white T-shirt that the camera showed. He stood up in 3rd set to cheer very enthusiastically for LCW. Is that our george@cw?



.
Hahaha... He is probably celebrating somewhere at the moment. :D:D:D

We'll have to wait until he gets home to own up.
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nick.h
01-20-2008, 06:52 AM
congrats to kido and setiawan... they played very well..handled the pressure and their skills are superb...but..looking back..i can't help but to wonder that they will only win when kkk/tbh and fu/cai lost...most of the tournaments that they have won, they won it without having to meet these two pairs...but if they met these two pairs, for example kkk/tbh, they never won any of their meetings...the same goes when they met cai/fu...if i'm not mistaken, all the ss that they won in 2007, they won it without beating any of these two pairs...its as if they could play well when playing against other pairs, but not when playing against these two pairs....hmmm....so...kido and setiawan...they are still behind kkk/tbh and cai/fu...

Well, you do have a point there. However, you've missed out the very last SS tournament last year in Hong Kong where kido/hendra destroyed fhf/cy in the semifinals. (not to mention china open 2006 where kido/hendra defeated fhf/cy in the final)
And as far as im concerned, its not fair to say "oh kido/hendra only win if kkk/tbh crash in earlier rounds". To me, kkk/tbh had the biggest chance to win this MAS SS yet they let it slip away (AGAIN!!).
And believe you me Kido/hendra are not behind KKK/tbh. they've got World Champion titles and 3 SS titles. And up until now, kkk/tbh have got the same amount of SS titles i think?? of course minus the World titles hehe :D:D

taufik-ist
01-20-2008, 06:58 AM
congrats to kido and setiawan... they played very well..handled the pressure and their skills are superb...but..looking back..i can't help but to wonder that they will only win when kkk/tbh and fu/cai lost...most of the tournaments that they have won, they won it without having to meet these two pairs...but if they met these two pairs, for example kkk/tbh, they never won any of their meetings...the same goes when they met cai/fu...if i'm not mistaken, all the ss that they won in 2007, they won it without beating any of these two pairs (except for HK open)...its as if they could play well when playing against other pairs, but not when playing against these two pairs....hmmm....so...kido and setiawan...they are still behind kkk/tbh and cai/fu...

you must ask tbh/kkk or cai/fu why they often lose to lower-ranked players :p ... and MK/HS (i can say) seldom lose to lower-ranked players :D.. your posting is ridiculous:D

cute_tbh
01-20-2008, 07:12 AM
Well, you do have a point there. However, you've missed out the very last SS tournament last year in Hong Kong where kido/hendra destroyed fhf/cy in the semifinals. (not to mention china open 2006 where kido/hendra defeated fhf/cy in the final)
And as far as im concerned, its not fair to say "oh kido/hendra only win if kkk/tbh crash in earlier rounds". To me, kkk/tbh had the biggest chance to win this MAS SS yet they let it slip away (AGAIN!!).
And believe you me Kido/hendra are not behind KKK/tbh. they've got World Champion titles and 3 SS titles. And up until now, kkk/tbh have got the same amount of SS titles i think?? of course minus the World titles hehe :D:D

you also have a point here...but kido and setiawan NEVER (if i'm not mistaken..)win when they play against kkk/tbh...that's a fact..:D:D

abedeng
01-20-2008, 07:14 AM
Really, why do we need to downplay other players' wins? Kido/Setiawan, esp Setiawan are the best for this tournament and have been for these last few tournaments. Lars/Jonas came a close 2nd save for the service errors.

Whether Koo/Tan is better, or Cai/Fu, or others, we will only know for sure when their resumes are complete and they have all retired. One doesn't downplay other players' achievements if he wants others to respect the achievements of his countrymen.

nick.h
01-20-2008, 07:15 AM
you also have a point here...but kido and setiawan NEVER (if i'm not mistaken..)win when they play against kkk/tbh...that's a fact..:D:D

yes that is a fact. And that is probably because kido/hendra never had the chance, since kkk/tbh have ALWAYS been losing to lower ranked pairs...there you go, a very reasonable explanation :cool:...:D (no offense guys)

taufik-ist
01-20-2008, 07:17 AM
you also have a point here...but kido and setiawan NEVER (if i'm not mistaken..)win when they play against kkk/tbh...that's a fact..:D:D

when mk/hs want to play (take revenge on their looses) tbh/kkk... tbh/kkk often lose first to a lower-ranked player.. :D :D.. ... who must be blammed :D

eaglehelang
01-20-2008, 07:21 AM
And believe you me Kido/hendra are not behind KKK/tbh. they've got World Champion titles and 3 SS titles. And up until now, kkk/tbh have got the same amount of SS titles i think?? of course minus the World titles hehe :D:D

Errrr, nick.h, KKK/TBH won 4 SS titles (Msia, AE, Swiss, Denmark)& 2 GP Gold last year. Kido/Setiawan won 2 SS, 1 GP Gold, 1 WC, FU/Cai won 4 SS. Of course Kido/Setiawan now added 1 more to their list to 3 SS.

haifeng4ever
01-20-2008, 07:21 AM
Well Done to MK/HS. Gradually becoming quite a big fan of MK/HS:D:D:D, though they are not the most good-looking pair among most of the MD pairs, but still they proved that being GOOD-LOOKING isn't a big deal. The biggest deal is win as many titles as you can. Or else beauty is just skin deep. :D:D:D

taufik-ist
01-20-2008, 07:22 AM
Errrr, nick.h, in 2007 KKK/TBH won 4 SS titles (Msia, AE, Swiss, Denmark)& 2 GP Gold last year. Kido/Setiawan won 2 SS, 1 GP Gold, 1 WC, FU/Cai won 4 SS. Of course Kido/Setiawan now added 1 more to their list to 3 SS.

basically they are in the same level :D... 3 heavenly kings of MD :D

nick.h
01-20-2008, 07:23 AM
Errrr, nick.h, in 2007 KKK/TBH won 4 SS titles (Msia, AE, Swiss, Denmark)& 2 GP Gold last year. Kido/Setiawan won 2 SS, 1 GP Gold, 1 WC, FU/Cai won 4 SS. Of course Kido/Setiawan now added 1 more to their list to 3 SS.

yes sorry i jst realized what i was missing after i posted...sigh...big deal...

taufik-ist
01-20-2008, 07:24 AM
Well Done to MK/HS. Gradually becoming quite a big fan of MK/HS:D:D:D, though they are not the most good-looking pair among most of the MD pairs, but still they proved that being GOOD-LOOKING isn't a big deal. The biggest deal is win as many titles as you can. Or else beauty is just skin deep. :D:D:D

he..he ya.... :D fully agreed :D

eaglehelang
01-20-2008, 07:29 AM
basically they are in the same level :D... 3 heavenly kings of MD :D

Yup, so no arguement on who's better as yet, not till one of them win OG gold. And when you mention 3 heavenly kings, reminds me of HK four heavenly kings of entertainment.

But looks like Kido/Setiawan & Fu/Cai will take the top 2 spot for a while. KKK/TBH will be absent in quite a no of tourneys - Korea, Spore or Indonesia.
Too bad Tony/Chandra arent playing in as many SS or OG, they can make the 4th Heavenly King - oldies version, ;).

Jessica
01-20-2008, 07:34 AM
Yup, so no arguement on who's better as yet, not till one of them win OG gold. And when you mention 3 heavenly kings, reminds me of HK four heavenly kings of entertainment.

But looks like Kido/Setiawan & Fu/Cai will take the top 2 spot for a while. KKK/TBH will be absent in quite a no of tourneys - Korea, Spore or Indonesia.
Too bad Tony/Chandra arent playing in as many SS or OG, they can make the 4th Heavenly King - oldies version, ;).
I only know three of them which is Andy Lau,Arron Kwok and Jacky Cheung..Who is another one???Back to the topic,i rather Koo/Tan lost their No 1 ranking if this is the factor that create pressure on them.I don't mind what their ranking is as long as they can win the titles.

Darien
01-20-2008, 07:38 AM
quite a number of people saying TBH/KKK always lose to a lower rank pairs...currently they are world no.1, so they'll lose to EVERY pair now!!!
hahaha....

Jessica
01-20-2008, 07:39 AM
Darien..I though you predicted LCW will lost today...:D:D

eaglehelang
01-20-2008, 07:41 AM
I only know three of them which is Andy Lau,Arron Kwok and Jacky Cheung..Who is another one???Back to the topic,i rather Koo/Tan lost their No 1 ranking if this is the factor that create pressure on them.I don't mind what their ranking is as long as they can win the titles.

They need to maintain top 4 ranking to avoid meeting top players in early rounds. Prob with KKK/TBH currently, they lose to lower ranking pairs, not same level pairs. And pity TBH, get up in the morn already feel pressure. Hope he will overcome it.

No 4 is the late Leslie Cheung. He hasnt passed away that long, so I remember them always as 4 Heavenly Kings, maybe now is 3.

george@chongwei
01-20-2008, 07:56 AM
damn happy 2day can see lee chong wei style of playing LIVE and see him wins the Mas Open ss2008!!!
LEE CHONG WEI BOLEH!!!
MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!

samuel882
01-20-2008, 08:06 AM
They need to maintain top 4 ranking to avoid meeting top players in early rounds. Prob with KKK/TBH currently, they lose to lower ranking pairs, not same level pairs. And pity TBH, get up in the morn already feel pressure. Hope he will overcome it.

No 4 is the late Leslie Cheung. He hasnt passed away that long, so I remember them always as 4 Heavenly Kings, maybe now is 3.
O.T , no. 4 is Leon Lai, not Leslie Cheung, they were not in the same generations. I've work some music engineering project with Leon's Producer on his album before ;)
Back to topic, the world ranking jinx them (Koo/Tan) over and over again, proove that it doesn't matter which seeding they'll get in any tournys.
As long as they can win the titles, seeding is nothing. We've witness there is one unseeded player each in all the 5 events' final of first SS of 2008.:eek:
But, of course they must at least get enough Qualifying points for Olympics lah.:)

eaglehelang
01-20-2008, 08:13 AM
damn happy 2day can see lee chong wei style of playing LIVE and see him wins the Mas Open ss2008!!!
LEE CHONG WEI BOLEH!!!
MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!

george, the guy in white T-shirt, standing up and clap very wildly in 3rd set, is that you??

Samuel, sori, yes u is right. I remember 'L' but wrong 'L'

samuel882
01-20-2008, 08:14 AM
Well Done to MK/HS. Gradually becoming quite a big fan of MK/HS:D:D:D, though they are not the most good-looking pair among most of the MD pairs, but still they proved that being GOOD-LOOKING isn't a big deal. The biggest deal is win as many titles as you can. Or else beauty is just skin deep. :D:D:D

Change ur nick to Mightymouse4ever:D:D

eaglehelang
01-20-2008, 08:20 AM
Change ur nick to Mightymouse4ever:D:D

Add that - mightymouse&mightypole4ever

Hendra S. still too skinny to be called pillar, so pole ("kayu" expression) is suitable but pole also strong, like the 2 Power Canon Balls (guess who) and Speedy Fierce One/Tall Lighting.

X Ball
01-20-2008, 08:28 AM
Lee Hyun Ill will not be spared today - he will not withstand the attacking game of LCW.

I predict a 21-15, 21-18 outcome in favour of LCW.

Was right in my prediction of the 1st game !!!:D Somehow my 2nd game prediction should have been the 3rd.:D

Still LCW has a good start to the new year. I predict big things for him this year.

badMania
01-20-2008, 09:05 AM
Back at home after a long day of badminton in my friend's place (for viewers in HKG: now Cable is showing ALL the Super Series matches this year). The matches go into overtime, with 4 of them ending in rubber-sets and since the telecast was delayed by 1/2 an hr here (started at 2pm), they actually cut 2 sets!! Thankfully, the first set that was cut was the WD first game between Gao Ling/Zhao Tingting and Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen (ended 13-21 in Yang/Zhang's favour), while the second set cut was the MD second game between Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan and Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen (ended 20-22 in Paaske/Rasmussen's favour).

Two matches could be considered forgettable since all of us wanted them to end quickly. First up was the XD Final between He Hanbin/Yu Yang and Lee Yong Dae/Lee Hyo Jung. The first-set was quite even until it was 14-14 and He Hanbin's turn to serve. It was from his serves that the Chinese pair won 7 straight points to take the first set 21-14! As usual, Lee Hyo Jung looked clumsy with her "now customary" netting errors and out returns. Lee Yong Dae was also not at his best and was pressured many times by He Hanbin's thunderous smashes!

He Hanbin was the form man today, with his brilliant serves, which won another 6 straight points when it was 9-7 in the second set. That basically killed the match and they won the second set and the match comfortably 21-15. So, the Chinese pair collected their 2nd Super Series titles and they have become increasingly matured and a worthy successor to Gao Ling/Zheng Bo, after Gao Ling retires.

The WD match was quite forgettable as me and my friends were chatting during that match. The only high point was the deuces at the end of the rubber-set and quite rightly, Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen showed to Li Yongbo that they deserve to be sent to the Beijing Olympics, by winning yet another title here in KL! A fitting one too for the future Malaysian bride :D

d65up2
01-20-2008, 09:07 AM
Kido-hendra Champion!!!!!! Thats All I Wanna Say!!! Juara Juara

Pemuda
01-20-2008, 09:11 AM
damn happy 2day can see lee chong wei style of playing LIVE and see him wins the Mas Open ss2008!!!
LEE CHONG WEI BOLEH!!!
MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!

The MO is done and dusted. LCW won. Lets get over this and not do the usual Malaysia Boleh over the hill celebrations.

badMania
01-20-2008, 09:21 AM
One of the most intriguing match was the Women's Singles Final between Zhu Lin and Tine Rasmussen. Both players were making so many errors throughout the entire match and the lead kept changing hands from the first set onwards. However, Tine caught our eyes with her ever so accurate cross-court shots, which caught Zhu Lin off-guard countless times and won the Danes so many points in this match! The first-set was level at 17-17, before some unforced errors by Tine yielded the set 18-21 to Zhu Lin's advantage.

The second set was also a ding-dong affair as Tine was first 3-0 up, before Zhu Lin regained the lead at 6-4. Tine levelled the score, and allowed the Chinese to forge another lead at 10-7 and then 12-10. The Danes showed her resilience and won a few crucial points to lead at 16-13. This time, it was Zhu Lin's turn to level it at 16-16 and nearly won it when she lead 19-16. It was not to be for the World Champions as Tine gradually found her composure yet again and levelled the score at 19-19 and won the final 2 points of the set to force a rubber set! What a breathtaking second set!

The third set was now going the Danes way as she was impressive from the start and was quickly leading 9-2 and 11-5 at the interval. Yet agian, Zhu Lin came back into the match and nearly levelled it at 16-17. This was before Tine injured her ankles and required some medical attention when the score was 14-12 to her advantage. Some bad judgements by Zhu Lin allowed the Danes some easy points and eventually, Tine Rasmussen won the rubber-set 21-18.

Once again, the Danish girl has broken 4 China-born opponents en-route to her 2nd Super Series titles, this time by beating Xu Huaiwen, Lu Lan, Pi Hongyan, and Zhu Lin. She will pose a big threat for the Olympics 2008. Li Yongbo must be furious with this result, especially after he claimed that the winter training camp at Zhuhai was a success :eek:

abedeng
01-20-2008, 09:26 AM
The WD match was quite forgettable as me and my friends were chatting during that match. The only high point was the deuces at the end of the rubber-set and quite rightly, Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen showed to Li Yongbo that they deserve to be sent to the Beijing Olympics, by winning yet another title here in KL! A fitting one too for the future Malaysian bride :D

I think Zhang Jiewen was under pressure a bit, since her boyfriend was concentrating on that match. :D

But then she's not a World and Olympic champion for nothing ..... Besides, Putra Stadium is a good hunting ground for Yang Wei and her. You should have seen them in the World Championships last year, trailing so far, yet winning the semifinals and final against their teammates.

badMania
01-20-2008, 09:33 AM
The home crowds had been waiting patiently for their hero to make his entrance in today's Finals. So, it was no surprise that the decibel level was at the highest level during Lee Chong Wei's match with Lee Hyun Il, who's making a comeback to qualify for the Beijing Olympics. IMHO, even though this match was still an interesting one to watch on its own, it still could not quite match the previous match.

Lee Chong Wei started the first set brilliantly and he wasted no time in building up a healthy lead. Lee Hyun Il was also making more errors and the home favorite won the first set quite comfortably at 21-15.

However, Lee Hyun Il clearly made the difference in the second set as he was quickly ahead 7-2 and then 11-5 at the interval. The Malaysian had no answers to the Korean's numerous accurate smashes and impressive netplays during this period. The 6 points gap was widened after the break and the Korean sealed this set easily 21-11. The stadium was quiet at this time.

Lee Chong Wei returned back from the towel break with a new shirt and a new purpose as he began the rubber-set brilliantly, leading 4-0. The lead extended to 14-6 at one stage, with the Korean player making many unforced errors from long rallies that Lee Chong Wei seemed contented to be playing at this stage. As the match wore on, the Korean player regained some confidence and narrowed the gap to 17-19. However, it was too late for him and Lee Chong Wei would never let the match slip away from him as the Malaysian player won the last 2 points of the match to take it home 21-17.

So, Lee Chong Wei has won his 4th Malaysian Open titles....what an achievement by him!

badMania
01-20-2008, 09:35 AM
I think Zhang Jiewen was under pressure a bit, since her boyfriend was concentrating on that match. :D


I noticed that the veteran pair lacked the killing edge :rolleyes: There were so many times they were unable to kill the bird, when the scores were pretty tight at the end of the rubber-set. Luckily, they still won it ;)

badMania
01-20-2008, 09:51 AM
And finally....the last match of the evening, also the most anticipated one (for me), the Men's Doubles match between the 2007 World Champions Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan and the 2003 World Champions Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen. It was an enthralling match, especially the last 2 sets (too bad, no chance to watch the second set as it was cut from our broadcast).

The first set was a disaster for the Danes as they could not match the INA's pair speed. They started quite reasonably, trailing only 3 points at 8-11, but, it seemed that they were making many mistakes from the serves. Long serves ended up being killed by either Kido or Hendra, while short serves were also being devoured, mostly by Hendra in front of the net. So, the lead was widened in no time and the INA pair was at their merciless best in this set, winning it very comfortably at 21-10. It was clear that the Danes had to change their tactic as they could not dominate the net.

I didn't know what happened during the second set, but, I could observe that the Danes returned back a stronger and more composed pair in the rubber-set. And worryingly, Hendra was committing many mistakes in the early stage of the rubber-set. The Danes had a 3 pts lead at 5-2, before Kido/Hendra levelled it at 7-7. From then onwards, it was tit-for-tat and the lead kept changing hands until it was 17-17.

As abedeng pointed out, Kido was making many errors (but so was Hendra). IMHO, if not for Kido's smashes, I think the INA pair would have been finished as Hendra was not doing particularly well in the beginning stage of the third set. Fortunately, Hendra got better and was the one winning several key points in front of the net in the crucial stage of the rubber-set.

At 17-17, it was the Danes turn to make some errors and gifted 3 killer points to the INA pair. It was game over practically as the INA pair sealed the match 21-18. This was definitely one of Kido/Hendra's most difficult victory in the past few months. Kudos to Paaske/Rasmussen for pushing them so hard. The Danes deserved the title here really.....it was just so very close!!!

At the end, Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan scooped up their 3rd Super Series titles and matched Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun's record of 3 consecutive Super Series victories. Now, the question is: how far can they go in the Korea Open Super Series, especially when the draw is so much tougher, with another possible match against the Danes as early as R16 :o

abedeng
01-20-2008, 10:17 AM
One thing we have too note is that Paaske/Rasmussen are younger than other veteran pairs, hence they can hold up to the speed and last the distance better than say, CTF/LWW, TG/CW and MLH/JE.

They played 3 tough 3 game matches prior to final, yet is still able to maintain a decent challenge. Only their service game did not get up to mark.

jimbo
01-20-2008, 10:17 AM
Just curious, did LCW and LiMao exchange hugs or words after the MSF? :confused:

carine
01-20-2008, 10:26 AM
Just curious, did LCW and LiMao exchange hugs or words after the MSF? :confused:

juz watch the RTM1 news,see them dey had exchange hugs after the MSF

jimbo
01-20-2008, 10:34 AM
juz watch the RTM1 news,see them dey had exchange hugs after the MSF

Thats good to hear. I hope their relationship/sportmanship doesnt turn sour. LCW is indeed a true champion, IMHO :)

badMania
01-20-2008, 10:47 AM
MD title for INA, WS title for DEN... :D


WOW...u are right on these predictions....my vote on Zhu Lin went wrong :cool:

badMania
01-20-2008, 10:51 AM
but..looking back..i can't help but to wonder that they will only win when kkk/tbh and fu/cai lost...most of the tournaments that they have won, they won it without having to meet these two pairs...but if they met these two pairs, for example kkk/tbh, they never won any of their meetings...the same goes when they met cai/fu...

Yawn.....it's not their fault that Koo/Tan and Fu/Cai went out early :cool: Besides, they thrashed Fu/Cai in the Semi-Final Hong Kong Open 2007 and the Final of China Open 2006.

The record against Koo/Tan remains as Kido/Hendra's "ugly spot" in their resume so far. We shall see how they fare when they are up against Koo/Tan yet again :cool:

badMania
01-20-2008, 10:54 AM
..yeah, arguably, just by reading the posts already made us sweat...too bad we weren't able to witness this match thru webcast...imagine watching it on TV/webstream or even live @ the stadium...NERVE-WRECKING!!:eek::cool:


I was "lucky" to have watched the third set on delayed telecast in my friend's place. I wouldn't have been able to catch it if I were to stay at home and rely on live-streaming :o

What a nerve-wrecking third set it was....esp when it got from 7-7 to 17-17...with the lead kept changing hands.

badMania
01-20-2008, 10:56 AM
(ok, hopefully i won't jinx him, so here goes)...
Jonas Rasmussen BOLEH!!:D :) :D


Oh Chris....u are so unpatriotic :confused::eek::rolleyes::cool::o

badMania
01-20-2008, 11:01 AM
Kido pushes wide, Lars serving woes continue.

One reason for the service errors: if long serves, ended up getting attacked (and hope they can retrieve the smashes :eek:). If they served short serves...even worse...more chance to die as they could not match Hendra in front of the net.....quite a dillemma for the Danes :o

zqloy
01-20-2008, 11:06 AM
One reason for the service errors: if long serves, ended up getting attacked (and hope they can retrieve the smashes :eek:). If they served short serves...even worse...more chance to die as they could not match Hendra in front of the net.....quite a dillemma for the Danes :o

Hendra was way too sharp at pouncing on the serves, the danes might be a little intimidated. :cool:

badMania
01-20-2008, 11:10 AM
Hendra was way too sharp at pouncing on the serves, the danes might be a little intimidated. :cool:

Either long or short serves will ended up getting devoured....so...the Danes were quite rattled, esp in the first set when they lost the points so quickly.

That's why they were pretty shaky and not that confident in serving today.

On the other hand, the INA pair was guilty of making many unforced errors as well, each player taking turns. From the posts of the second set (which I missed), they almost took it, leading 17-14 and 19-17, before Hendra's mistakes gifted the Danes the chance to level the scores and finish off the set :mad: This was reminiscent of the French Open QF against Choong/Lee when they were 3 pts ahead in the rubber-set, only to lose the match :o:eek::mad:

Han
01-20-2008, 12:01 PM
juz watch the RTM1 news,see them dey had exchange hugs after the MSF

Even though Chong Wei is Li Mao ex-student but their relationship is good very good and Li Mao should be very proud of his charges playing such high quality in the final. Chong Wei style has changed quite a bit under Misbun, more on defense, clear, drop then mainly offense. I think Misbun style seem to suit Chong Wei better as he doesn't have the canon arm like Lin Dan but look at Li Hyun Il, he is really good and if he can maintain his form then don't be surprise to see him climb quickly up the ranking chart.
I like Hyun Il's style, very solid in defense couples with Li Mao attacking trademark, fun to watch!
Anyway, really proud of Chong Wei, so resilient and calm. I hope Chong Wei is heading to Korea Open to experience playing under hostile environment(that's why I don't agree with Rexy keeping KKK/TBH at home, let player expose to reality situation so they are more prepare when Olympic comes).
Congratulation to Chong Wei and Hyun Il for providing such a high level match and bravo to Malaysian line judges.

zqloy
01-20-2008, 12:06 PM
Even though Chong Wei is Li Mao ex-student but their relationship is good very good and Li Mao should be very proud of his charges playing such high quality in the final. Chong Wei style has changed quite a bit under Misbun, more on defense, clear, drop then mainly offense. I think Misbun style seem to suit Chong Wei better as he doesn't have the canon arm like Lin Dan but look at Li Hyun Il, he is really good and if he can maintain his form then don't be surprise to see him climb quickly up the ranking chart.
I like Hyun Il's style, very solid in defense couples with Li Mao attacking trademark, fun to watch!
Anyway, really proud of Chong Wei, so resilient and calm. I hope Chong Wei is heading to Korea Open to experience playing under hostile environment(that's why I don't agree with Rexy keeping KKK/TBH at home, let player expose to reality situation so they are more prepare when Olympic comes).
Congratulation to Chong Wei and Hyun Il for providing such a high level match and bravo to Malaysian line judges.

LHI is officially back to his best, he should be able to beat anyone in such form. Hv not been seeing him played so well, not after LM left him few yrs ago. LCW on the other hand, is getting more mature in handling pressure, very patient in the rallies.

eaglehelang
01-20-2008, 01:37 PM
Anyway, really proud of Chong Wei, so resilient and calm. I hope Chong Wei is heading to Korea Open to experience playing under hostile environment(that's why I don't agree with Rexy keeping KKK/TBH at home, let player expose to reality situation so they are more prepare when Olympic comes).
Congratulation to Chong Wei and Hyun Il for providing such a high level match and bravo to Malaysian line judges.

LCW is goin to Korea. MS strategy a bit different, they want to collect as many pts as possible for OG, to maintain no 2 spot. MD are preparing for Thomas Cup qualifiying in Feb.

Birdwood
01-20-2008, 01:47 PM
LCW is goin to Korea. MS strategy a bit different, they want to collect as many pts as possible for OG, to maintain no 2 spot. MD are preparing for Thomas Cup qualifiying in Feb.

Always my hat off to our knowledgeable eagle since she flies from coast to coast and continent to continent...:D

Tommy Susanto
01-20-2008, 01:55 PM
The MO is done and dusted. LCW won. Lets get over this and not do the usual Malaysia Boleh over the hill celebrations.

It is more on koo/tan over the hill, to add more pain to MAS fans, Rexy is leaving. Life sucks, ain't it? On the other hand, Mk/HS rocks on and marching steadily towards OG:D

morphy
01-20-2008, 02:45 PM
to add more pain to MAS fans, Rexy is leaving. Life sucks, ain't it?

Nice to see INA fans like raining on other ppls parade. LCW won let them enjoy it. MK/HS won INA celebrate, what's the problem?
Also your info on rexy abit outdated ;p.

Tommy Susanto
01-20-2008, 03:23 PM
Nice to see INA fans like raining on other ppls parade. LCW won let them enjoy it. MK/HS won INA celebrate, what's the problem?
Also your info on rexy abit outdated ;p.
You cannot be serious(McEnroe):DI have no control over one's wins' or defeats':rolleyes:Ok guess Rexy is staying, happy now:p

samuel882
01-20-2008, 03:40 PM
LCW is goin to Korea. MS strategy a bit different, they want to collect as many pts as possible for OG, to maintain no 2 spot. MD are preparing for Thomas Cup qualifiying in Feb.
Every players in each single events need OG point, regardless of MD or MD :cool:

samuel882
01-20-2008, 03:41 PM
Guys,
Lee HI is no doubt very awesome in MAS open SS, but will he able to sustain this kinda form thorughout the year. It still remain a BIG question mark...

Han
01-20-2008, 05:20 PM
Guys,
Lee HI is no doubt very awesome in MAS open SS, but will he able to sustain this kinda form thorughout the year. It still remain a BIG question mark...

We will find out very soon as Lee Hyin Il will meet Lee Chong Wei in round 2 in Korea Open. Same thing can be said about Kido/Setiawan vs Paaske/REasmussen, they too will meet in round 2. Can't get more exciting than that :D

zqloy
01-20-2008, 06:36 PM
Guys,
Lee HI is no doubt very awesome in MAS open SS, but will he able to sustain this kinda form thorughout the year. It still remain a BIG question mark...

Same can be said to LCW. Will he be too tired to battle all the way again in Korea? Lets see what is he made off next week. But right now i should say he is the most consistent MS atm, 4 finals in the row is no easy feat.

eaglehelang
01-20-2008, 06:52 PM
Every players in each single events need OG point, regardless of MD or MD :cool:

That's what LCW said after Semi F interview. Sthing like he doesnt think so much abt winning MO or KO, this year he just wants to collect as many OG points as possible.
LD absent in MO, Taufik will be absent KO, they have their own reasons, LCW's reason for participating in all is collect OG pts.

MD - Rexy wants them to stay home to train(different strategy loh). Only those who really need ranking pts - Zakry/Fairuz, Hoon/Wee Kiong are going.

chris-ccc
01-20-2008, 07:10 PM
Same can be said to LCW. Will he be too tired to battle all the way again in Korea? Lets see what is he made off next week. But right now i should say he is the most consistent MS atm, 4 finals in the row is no easy feat.



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I do hope that LCW would miss a few tournaments before the Beijing Olympics 2008.

Having already been easily qualified for the OG 2008, and always having to play all rounds to the finals in all the SS tournaments...... it might be better for LCW to just play 1 out of 2 SS events that are organised (in batches of 2 within a fortnight), IMHO.
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badMania
01-20-2008, 07:14 PM
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I do hope that LCW would miss a few tournaments before the Beijing Olympics 2008.

Having already been easily qualified for the OG 2008, and always having to play all rounds to the finals in all the SS tournaments...... it might be better for LCW to just play 1 out of 2 SS events that are organised (in batches of 2 within a fortnight), IMHO.
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Agreed. I think the All England is important for him, but, its not necessary for him to play in either the Korea Open this week or the Swiss Open following the All-England. Let alone the Asian Continental Championships in JB :eek:

samuel882
01-20-2008, 07:30 PM
Maybe.. Lee CW need to earn more $$$ for him to marry Wong MC after Olympics :p

chris-ccc
01-20-2008, 07:53 PM
Maybe.. Lee CW need to earn more $$$ for him to marry Wong MC after Olympics :p



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Nay... LCW would earn more $$$ from winning the GOLD@Beijing Olympics than winning all the SS events from now to the OG 2008.

Besides, WMC would love to have LCW winning that GOLD medal for her. :p:p:p
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eaglehelang
01-20-2008, 08:12 PM
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Nay... LCW would earn more $$$ from winning the GOLD@Beijing Olympics than winning all the SS events from now to the OG 2008.

Besides, WMC would love to have LCW winning that GOLD medal for her. :p:p:p
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Nahhh, WMC herself can win medal, no need other ppl win for her. She's aiming to win a medal - bronze, not as valuable as the elusive gold of course, but by her own efforts, he he.

If both of them win medals , great wedding present.

X Ball
01-20-2008, 08:52 PM
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I do hope that LCW would miss a few tournaments before the Beijing Olympics 2008.

Having already been easily qualified for the OG 2008, and always having to play all rounds to the finals in all the SS tournaments...... it might be better for LCW to just play 1 out of 2 SS events that are organised (in batches of 2 within a fortnight), IMHO.
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I would like to agree but I think getting 'tuned' is important. I have seen players getting jitters when they come back after staying away for a tournament or two.

chris-ccc
01-20-2008, 08:57 PM
Nahhh, WMC herself can win medal, no need other ppl win for her. She's aiming to win a medal - bronze, not as valuable as the elusive gold of course, but by her own efforts, he he.

If both of them win medals , great wedding present.



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Hahaha... Agree with you. :D:D:D

Not only that WMC needs to say that to LCW... I am sure XXF will say the same to LD, and ZJW to CTF.

But it could also be the reverse too... medals of love from gfs to bfs. :D:D:D
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V3i HoN6
01-20-2008, 09:07 PM
MD - Rexy wants them to stay home to train(different strategy loh). Only those who really need ranking pts - Zakry/Fairuz, Hoon/Wee Kiong are going.
To me it's utterly bulls, they have enough training, what they need is to play more, lose more and learn from it more.

They've been kept before the WC and been training well, what happened next. The same thing before the MO, they have adequate time for training and it went sour again. In fact they getting worse since they started being selectively participate in competition.

zqloy
01-20-2008, 09:30 PM
To me it's utterly bulls, they have enough training, what they need is to play more, lose more and learn from it more.

They've been kept before the WC and been training well, what happened next. The same thing before the MO, they have adequate time for training and it went sour again. In fact they getting worse since they started being selectively participate in competition.

I think Rexy is trying the protect TBH, no point going if they keep losing matches, dont forget our boy is only 20 years old, he might lose every bit of confidence left. Perhaps Rexy should learn a thing or 2 from LCW, ask the sports psychologist teach them how to handle the pressure.

chris-ccc
01-20-2008, 09:32 PM
To me it's utterly bulls, they have enough training, what they need is to play more, lose more and learn from it more.


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Agree with you on this V3i HoN6... but this is only for the younger and less inexperienced players.

But players with experience who have already qualified for the OG 2008 such as LD, LCW, XXF, ZN, KKK/TBH, MK/HS, ZYW/WY, YW/ZJW, ZB/GL and NW/LN, all do not need to play more @SS tournaments, but they need to maintain their skills through their training. :):):)

However, their fans might want them to continue playing to entertain them. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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badMania
01-20-2008, 09:36 PM
One exception though: Taufik Hidayat :p

Xie Xingfang is also absent from the Korea Open (whether its injury related or not) :D

Loh
01-20-2008, 09:39 PM
Nahhh, WMC herself can win medal, no need other ppl win for her. She's aiming to win a medal - bronze, not as valuable as the elusive gold of course, but by her own efforts, he he.

If both of them win medals , great wedding present.

I wouldn't want to speculate about "the wedding" unless it comes from the couple themselves. The last that I knew was that they are merely good friends unless I'm outdated! ;)

There was a time when Chen Hong and Gao Ling were so 'serious' but in the end they do part. It must have been a great embarrassment.

Of course currently, Lin Dan and Xia Xingfang have exposed their relationship in public and have not denied, therefore it is acceptable to treat them as a couple in love.

But I think we should not treat LCW and WMC in the same manner. So letting the young Malaysian couple concentrate on their training for the Beijing Olympis might just be the right tonic for them, instead of distracting them. Thereafter, we shall await further news, if any. :D

Han
01-20-2008, 09:43 PM
To me it's utterly bulls, they have enough training, what they need is to play more, lose more and learn from it more.

They've been kept before the WC and been training well, what happened next. The same thing before the MO, they have adequate time for training and it went sour again. In fact they getting worse since they started being selectively participate in competition.

I question about Rexy's strategy too, if there's weak spot of the Malaysian pair then find out and fix it now! Staying and training at home will not expose players' weakness in my opinion. Selecting tournaments only adding pressure to the players and now they failed to live up to the expectation and the coach threatened to quit ... wrong strategy, just admit it and move on.
Why so protective for this young pair, let them expose and make more mistakes then guide them accordingly. Imagine putting this pair in China during Olympic, you think they're better prepare now by skipping Korea Open?
I like what Chong Wei is experiencing, he may not win all tournaments but he is exposing to different environment preparing himself for the big one that really counts, the Olympic. All under the same roof of BAM yet so much difference in philosophy from different coaches

george@chongwei
01-20-2008, 10:00 PM
george, the guy in white T-shirt, standing up and clap very wildly in 3rd set, is that you??

Samuel, sori, yes u is right. I remember 'L' but wrong 'L'
i was wearing a red tshirt le yesterday....:)
but also reacted very wildly:D:p

chris-ccc
01-20-2008, 10:04 PM
i was wearing a red tshirt le yesterday....:)

but also reacted very wildly:D:p



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Disappointed... I thought you would be wearing our harimau colours. :p:p:p
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ctjcad
01-21-2008, 12:54 AM
Oh Chris....u are so unpatriotic :confused::eek::rolleyes::cool::o
..well, eventhough i was born in the same country as the current MD WC, that doesn't mean my heart is in the same country..;):p..Besides, i've gotta cheer for our resident guest players (JR & LP)..;):cool:

The Danes found their form late, but was always limited by service errors.

One reason for the service errors: if long serves, ended up getting attacked (and hope they can retrieve the smashes :eek:). If they served short serves...even worse...more chance to die as they could not match Hendra in front of the net.....quite a dillemma for the Danes :o

Hendra was way too sharp at pouncing on the serves, the danes might be a little intimidated. :cool:
My opinion, without having watch JR&LP's matches against KKK&TBH, FHF&CY & HS&MK:
..i don't know if practicing their serves more will work/solve their problem (from y'day's MD Final), but IMO, the Danes just have to have a mindset of playing more confident at the net (maybe easier than done)..In other words, the Danes can put the same pressure back to the INA, make the INA pair dictate what the DEN pair wants to do.
I just thought, if the Danes were able to defeat KKK & TBH as well as FHF & CY on their way to the Finals, with the former pair having more success against HS & MK, why couldn't they do the same or have the same playing approach against the INA pair??..Is the INA pair's style that much different than the other 2 pairs??..:confused:

Pemuda
01-21-2008, 12:54 AM
It is more on koo/tan over the hill, to add more pain to MAS fans, Rexy is leaving. Life sucks, ain't it? On the other hand, Mk/HS rocks on and marching steadily towards OG:D

And talking about pain, pretty painful eh to not see any Indon players in the men's singles final, eh? ;)

justin-terbalik
01-21-2008, 01:06 AM
And talking about pain, pretty painful eh to not see any Indon players in the men's singles final, eh? ;)

oh pemuda..i though u r follow the news....Indon??? which country is this? ...

don't get angry if some ppl start to call malaysia as MALINGSIA...Maling=thief.

remember rasa sayange song, steal other country traditional song and claim as original of MAS????

back to badminton......TH will defend his title in OG

abedeng
01-21-2008, 01:39 AM
..i don't know if practicing their serves more will work/solve their problem (from y'day's MD Final), but IMO, the Danes just have to have a mindset of playing more confident at the net (maybe easier than done)..In other words, the Danes can put the same pressure back to the INA, make the INA pair dictate what the DEN pair wants to do.


Chris, in badminton, everything, including confidence buildup, starts from the serve. Jonas/Lars more than matched MK/HS in every other department (including netplay), except the serve. More than 10 pts were lost on loose serves or service errors. That is a huge statistic. And we haven't got to the part of Hendra's lightning interceptions.

Hauge complained that the World Champs should have put that game away in straight sets, instead of making him suffer and reach out to the sky .....:p

ctjcad
01-21-2008, 01:43 AM
Chris, in badminton, everything, including confidence buildup, starts from the serve. Jonas/Lars more than matched MK/HS in every other department (including netplay), except the serve. More than 10 pts were lost on loose serves or service errors. That is a huge statistic. And we haven't got to the part of Hendra's lightning interceptions.
..so, what could cause so many service errors from the Danes??..and if so, any difference(s), that you noticed, between MK & HS to JR & LP's previous opponents; mainly KKK & TBH and FHF & CY, who are as fast if not quicker/faster than the INA pair??..is it simply nerve??..:confused:

cooler
01-21-2008, 01:52 AM
..so, what could cause so many service errors from the Danes??..and if so, any difference(s), that you noticed, between MK & HS to JR & LP's previous opponents; mainly KKK & TBH and FHF & CY, who are as fast if not quicker/faster than the INA pair??..is it simply nerve??..:confused:IMO, yes. Short service error is mostly due to nervousness.

badMania
01-21-2008, 01:53 AM
..so, what could cause so many service errors from the Danes??..and if so, any difference(s), that you noticed, between MK & HS to JR & LP's previous opponents; mainly KKK & TBH and FHF & CY, who are as fast if not quicker/faster than the INA pair??..is it simply nerve??..:confused:

Like I mentioned earlier and confirmed by abedeng...confidence :cool: It was clear that the Danes were rattled once their short serves were easily intercepted. They changed that to long serves and they were often attacked quickly by either Kido or Hendra. So, either serves did not work as well as they wanted to :rolleyes:

This continued on until the last set, even after the Danes won the second set and was clearly on form in the beginning of the rubber-set.

ctjcad
01-21-2008, 02:03 AM
IMO, yes. Short service error is mostly due to nervousness.

Like I mentioned earlier and confirmed by abedeng...confidence :cool: It was clear that the Danes were rattled once their short serves were easily intercepted. They changed that to long serves and they were often attacked quickly by either Kido or Hendra. So, either serves did not work as well as they wanted to :rolleyes:

This continued on until the last set, even after the Danes won the second set and was clearly on form in the beginning of the rubber-set.
..then didn't they face the same type/kind of speed, quickness, probably playing style, from KKK&TBH and FHF&CY in the earlier encounters??:confused:..Or is Hendra was just "quicker" than those 4 players??..:confused:..
Btw, badMania, prior to their match y'day, how many times have MK&HS and JR&LP met before??:confused:..thanks-:)

badMania
01-21-2008, 02:08 AM
..then didn't they face the same type/kind of speed, quickness, probably playing style, from KKK&TBH and FHF&CY in the earlier encounters??:confused:..Or is Hendra was just "quicker" than those 4 players??..:confused:..
Btw, badMania, prior to their match y'day, how many times have MK&HS and JR&LP met before??:confused:..thanks-:)

They had met each other 7 times (officially). The INA pair holds a slight advantage at 4-3 (before yesterday's match), with all the earlier wins going the Danes way, as expected, including the Denmark Open 2004 Final.

However, the INA pair won the last few matchups:
In 2007 alone, they beat the Danes three times, in the All-England R32, the Sudirman Cup group match (both matches in rubber-sets) and the Chinese-Taipei Open Final (straight-set, the INA pair totally controlled the second-set).

Note that the Danish pair was destroyed in the second-set of the CTO Final and Jonas made some comments about it in his thread. That was simply Kido/Hendra's at their very best, similar to the first set yesterday, which clearly affected the Danes confidence and mood, despite winning the second set later on.

badMania
01-21-2008, 02:12 AM
Everything seemed to go their way and it was a bit frustrating to be on the other side of the net. Even the rallies where we did everything right they won.

ctjcad
01-21-2008, 02:13 AM
They had met each other 7 times (officially). The INA pair holds a slight advantage at 4-3 (before yesterday's match), with all the earlier wins going the Danes way, as expected, including the Denmark Open 2004 Final.
..thanks for the quick head-to-head record recollection..:cool:

badMania
01-21-2008, 02:13 AM
..thanks for the quick head-to-head record recollection..:cool:

They mentioned about it in the broadcast, so, it was still in my mind :D

V3i HoN6
01-21-2008, 02:20 AM
I wouldn't want to speculate about "the wedding" unless it comes from the couple themselves. The last that I knew was that they are merely good friends unless I'm outdated! ;)

There was a time when Chen Hong and Gao Ling were so 'serious' but in the end they do part. It must have been a great embarrassment.

Of course currently, Lin Dan and Xia Xingfang have exposed their relationship in public and have not denied, therefore it is acceptable to treat them as a couple in love.

But I think we should not treat LCW and WMC in the same manner. So letting the young Malaysian couple concentrate on their training for the Beijing Olympis might just be the right tonic for them, instead of distracting them. Thereafter, we shall await further news, if any. :D
You are outdated then.:p
They openly admit it in China and it's been like for years.
At least I saw it with my own eyes that they were holding each other hand shopping in Mid Valley.


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Agree with you on this V3i HoN6... but this is only for the younger and less inexperienced players.

But players with experience who have already qualified for the OG 2008 such as LD, LCW, XXF, ZN, KKK/TBH, MK/HS, ZYW/WY, YW/ZJW, ZB/GL and NW/LN, all do not need to play more @SS tournaments, but they need to maintain their skills through their training. :):):)

However, their fans might want them to continue playing to entertain them. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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Of course Im taking about our young lads here.
But they aint no LD or XXF.

As for training, going down to the court and plays with the rest of the world (including every level of players) are the best training they ever needed now.
Anyway I was just wondering who will they sparring with if CTF/LWW, CCM/CEE and MF/MZ were away in Korea? Hitting the rexy dummy sign?


I question about Rexy's strategy too, if there's weak spot of the Malaysian pair then find out and fix it now! Staying and training at home will not expose players' weakness in my opinion. Selecting tournaments only adding pressure to the players and now they failed to live up to the expectation and the coach threatened to quit ... wrong strategy, just admit it and move on.
Why so protective for this young pair, let them expose and make more mistakes then guide them accordingly. Imagine putting this pair in China during Olympic, you think they're better prepare now by skipping Korea Open?
I like what Chong Wei is experiencing, he may not win all tournaments but he is exposing to different environment preparing himself for the big one that really counts, the Olympic. All under the same roof of BAM yet so much difference in philosophy from different coaches
You beat me to it.
They know they have something in them.
But right after they flopped, in eager to prove themselves worthy, they get to stay home training instead.
To me, the Korea Open is a big milestone for them after the Malaysia Open tragedy. They will really play their heart out, and to win or to lose, they will sure gain something out of it.
They can continue to skip and then by suprise win the AE and then skip somemore then end up failing the Olympic and then repeat the same thing.

LCW missed all this so called "quality training" at home but still doing great.
How many final he been to at the second half of 2007?

eaglehelang
01-21-2008, 02:31 AM
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Agree with you on this V3i HoN6... but this is only for the younger and less inexperienced players.

But players with experience who have already qualified for the OG 2008 such as LD, LCW, XXF, ZN, KKK/TBH, MK/HS, ZYW/WY, YW/ZJW, ZB/GL and NW/LN, all do not need to play more @SS tournaments, but they need to maintain their skills through their training. :):):)

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To me it's utterly bulls, they have enough training, what they need is to play more, lose more and learn from it more.

They've been kept before the WC and been training well, what happened next. The same thing before the MO, they have adequate time for training and it went sour again. In fact they getting worse since they started being selectively participate in competition.

LD also missed MO. KKK/TBH are going for AE, Swiss Open. Two points already covered vy zqloy & Chrisccc :
1) To protect the young TBH, who is buckling to the pressure. LCW took a couple of years to learn to cope. Works different for different people - TBH confidence already going down, lose more, confidence go down even more.

+ they got fatigued last year from participating in too many tourneys. Yes, yes one can argue Fu/Cai, Kido/Setiawan also participate in as many tourneys, but remember the intense criticism they will get each time they lose from government, media, fans. The vultures will come flying down in no time. So, no point participating if not 100% fit.

2) They dont need the ranking pts as much. LCW is goin for Korea, but he might not go for Swiss, the tourneys they choose not to go are different. LD didnt go for MO, he too can pick & choose tournaments.

3) Getting worse? Ppl forget so fast. After grounded 1st time, KKK/TBH won GP Gold Philipines Open, it's a 'small' achievement but sthing. After WC & Japan Open fiasco, they won Macau & Denmark Open.


I question about Rexy's strategy too, if there's weak spot of the Malaysian pair then find out and fix it now! Staying and training at home will not expose players' weakness in my opinion. Selecting tournaments only adding pressure to the players and now they failed to live up to the expectation and the coach threatened to quit ... wrong strategy, just admit it and move on.
Why so protective for this young pair, let them expose and make more mistakes then guide them accordingly. Imagine putting this pair in China during Olympic, you think they're better prepare now by skipping Korea Open?
I like what Chong Wei is experiencing, he may not win all tournaments but he is exposing to different environment preparing himself for the big one that really counts, the Olympic. All under the same roof of BAM yet so much difference in philosophy from different coaches

Read thru again you will find intense criticism each time KKK/TBH lose. They are AG, AE champs, so they are expected to win gold, hopes are very high.
++ from many quarters including media, LCW is not expected to win OG gold, only silver cos of LD's dominance in MS. The spotlight is slightly less on LCW.

Han, easy to say, difficult to do, each & every time they crash out, fingers are pointed at the players, at the foreign coach(the loyalty of a foreign coach is constantly questioned, even when they deliver results)...... you've read the recent drama.

What LCW is experiencing tooks years to build up, with recent help of sports psy. he's getting better at 'absorbing the pressure.'
This is what LCW attributed to his MO win in terms of mental strength.

Players are of different character, even if same coach, the approach may be different.

eaglehelang
01-21-2008, 02:40 AM
I wouldn't want to speculate about "the wedding" unless it comes from the couple themselves. The last that I knew was that they are merely good friends unless I'm outdated! ;)



Yes, you're outdated. Someone posted the link in either WMC or LCw thread.
After WMC's China open win, they openly admitted to their relationship in a CCTV5 interview. That intv also showed photos of WMC & LCW together, arms around each other's shoulder.

The wedding thingy came out in one of the China/HK press. LCW has an additional ring on his left hand, said to be engagement ring, when reporter asked WMC abt the ring, she blushed, face all red.

badMania
01-21-2008, 03:04 AM
Jonas Rasmussen nevertheless expressed his satisfaction after the game: “En route to the final, we’ve beaten the first, third and fifth seeds which is not bad at all. We just couldn’t add the second seeds to our list. The Indonesians played superbly when it mattered the most and all credit to them.”

Loh
01-21-2008, 03:05 AM
Yes, you're outdated. Someone posted the link in either WMC or LCw thread.
After WMC's China open win, they openly admitted to their relationship in a CCTV5 interview. That intv also showed photos of WMC & LCW together, arms around each other's shoulder.

The wedding thingy came out in one of the China/HK press. LCW has an additional ring on his left hand, said to be engagement ring, when reporter asked WMC abt the ring, she blushed, face all red.

Then I must congratulate them and wish them well and certainly hope they could both win a medal at this year's Olympics. A gold for LCW would be an extremely good wedding present for WMC indeed! :)

V3i HoN6
01-21-2008, 03:58 AM
LD also missed MO. KKK/TBH are going for AE, Swiss Open. Two points already covered vy zqloy & Chrisccc :
You need to read again on Chriscc's point.
As for zqloy point that they did this to protect TBH and what's the point of going to competition if they aren't fit, I totally dont get it.
What have they been through that they just start out fresh this year after a long break and + 2 games in Malaysia Open. Was it HK open that they last competed and how many games they played?


1) To protect the young TBH, who is buckling to the pressure. LCW took a couple of years to learn to cope. Works different for different people - TBH confidence already going down, lose more, confidence go down even more.

+ they got fatigued last year from participating in too many tourneys. Yes, yes one can argue Fu/Cai, Kido/Setiawan also participate in as many tourneys, but remember the intense criticism they will get each time they lose from government, media, fans. The vultures will come flying down in no time. So, no point participating if not 100% fit.
Almost the same thing from zzqloy.
I dont know but how skipping competitive games could protect the young TBH and let say after the "protection" like before WC, after skipping some SS yet they still failed to perform, confidence going even down.

Other than few newspaper pages, I don't think the criticism get to them unless they got the timea to read pages by pages in BC and of course after reading from their fan thread with 10 times more pages. Other than that, I don't really think this is relevant. When I walk into his path during the Malaysia Open, I see people shaking his hands asking his autograph, photos but none of them critics him for his bad performance at all. I doubt it even happen from other than his coach.
The fan never leave them or afraid of them losing. Losing is one thing but keep knocked out at early rounds by unseeded players is another thing.

God help them if they are not 100% fit by the time AE, TC and Olympic as they are not participating. "What's the point of participate if they are not 100% fit" quoting from zzqloy?



2) They dont need the ranking pts as much. LCW is goin for Korea, but he might not go for Swiss, the tourneys they choose not to go are different. LD didnt go for MO, he too can pick & choose tournaments.
They are not going there for the points, but for the on court experience, for the pressure of real tournaments, for experiencing as many pairs as they can. So they can avoid being caught with guard downs for the first time playing another Taiwan or Japanese pair alike.


3) Getting worse? Ppl forget so fast. After grounded 1st time, KKK/TBH won GP Gold Philipines Open, it's a 'small' achievement but sthing. After WC & Japan Open fiasco, they won Macau & Denmark Open.
Then what? they flopped in French open (Jap pairs, Tadashi Otsuka/Keita Masuda, QF) and China Open (unseeded Taiwan pairs this time, second round) and HK Open(Candra Wijaya/Tony Gunawan, DF).
Not to forget the one after HK open, just over last week.
Getting better?

I sure forget fast. Remind me of what happen before Philipines Open. Was it Sudirman Cup that lost to England pairs?
And then an quite satisfactory Semi final lost to CY/FHF in Semi final and another first round defeat again (Mohd Zakry/Mohd Fairuz) in Singapore Open. Only before that, it was all glory to them.

I hate to be like pemuda but aren't you seeing something wrong for all this?
They getting better and getting worse at the same time. (What am I saying?:eek:). My point is by this rate, the Olympic game will just hand it to luck and pure luck only.

zqloy
01-21-2008, 04:58 AM
You need to read again on Chriscc's point.
As for zqloy point that they did this to protect TBH and what's the point of going to competition if they aren't fit, I totally dont get it.
What have they been through that they just start out fresh this year after a long break and + 2 games in Malaysia Open. Was it HK open that they last competed and how many games they played?


Almost the same thing from zzqloy.
I dont know but how skipping competitive games could protect the young TBH and let say after the "protection" like before WC, after skipping some SS yet they still failed to perform, confidence going even down.

Other than few newspaper pages, I don't think the criticism get to them unless they got the timea to read pages by pages in BC and of course after reading from their fan thread with 10 times more pages. Other than that, I don't really think this is relevant. When I walk into his path during the Malaysia Open, I see people shaking his hands asking his autograph, photos but none of them critics him for his bad performance at all. I doubt it even happen from other than his coach.
The fan never leave them or afraid of them losing. Losing is one thing but keep knocked out at early rounds by unseeded players is another thing.

God help them if they are not 100% fit by the time AE, TC and Olympic as they are not participating. "What's the point of participate if they are not 100% fit" quoting from zzqloy?



They are not going there for the points, but for the on court experience, for the pressure of real tournaments, for experiencing as many pairs as they can. So they can avoid being caught with guard downs for the first time playing another Taiwan or Japanese pair alike.


Then what? they flopped in French open (Jap pairs, Tadashi Otsuka/Keita Masuda, QF) and China Open (unseeded Taiwan pairs this time, second round) and HK Open(Candra Wijaya/Tony Gunawan, DF).
Not to forget the one after HK open, just over last week.
Getting better?

I sure forget fast. Remind me of what happen before Philipines Open. Was it Sudirman Cup that lost to England pairs?
And then an quite satisfactory Semi final lost to CY/FHF in Semi final and another first round defeat again (Mohd Zakry/Mohd Fairuz) in Singapore Open. Only before that, it was all glory to them.

I hate to be like pemuda but aren't you seeing something wrong for all this?
They getting better and getting worse at the same time. (What am I saying?:eek:). My point is by this rate, the Olympic game will just hand it to luck and pure luck only.

I believe what Rexy knows whats the best for them. TBH's problem is not fitness, its the confidence and the pressure issue, perhaps doing damage control is Rexy's priority right now.

eaglehelang
01-21-2008, 04:59 AM
You need to read again on Chriscc's point.
As for zqloy point that they did this to protect TBH and what's the point of going to competition if they aren't fit, I totally dont get it.

The competition part is my point. As per intv with Rexy.

What have they been through that they just start out fresh this year after a long break and + 2 games in Malaysia Open. Was it HK open that they last competed and how many games they played?

Again, this is what Rexy said, KKK/TBH played 15 tourneys last year, they got fatigued, thus failures at France Open, China & HK Open. Therefore, Rexy's sending them to selected tourneys. + for 'quality training' at home.

Other than few newspaper pages, I don't think the criticism get to them unless they got the timea to read pages by pages in BC and of course after reading from their fan thread with 10 times more pages. Other than that, I don't really think this is relevant. When I walk into his path during the Malaysia Open, I see people shaking his hands asking his autograph, photos but none of them critics him for his bad performance at all. I doubt it even happen from other than his coach.

a) There's pressure from NSC and Sports Ministry (government) - "Badminton is our hope for gold." If not, why all the top Msia players(LCW, WMC, KKK/TBH) mention pressure as a factor. This pressure, has been there since Sept 2007, is definitely relevant.

b) Then why some of the BCers reported that fans booed at them during Rd 1 & Rd 2 match? KKK was effected by it to mention it in the press - of course, of course, they must overcome it lah & all that.
LCW took some years to get used to the pressure & still not 100% too.

c) Few newspaper?? It's on every major newspaper on all their losses & winnings (NST, The Star, Utusan M, BH, Harian Metro, Kosmo, Chinese newspapers), with predictions on their downfall, etc. Media plays a part in influencing public opinion


The fan never leave them or afraid of them losing. Losing is one thing but keep knocked out at early rounds by unseeded players is another thing.



They are not going there for the points, but for the on court experience, for the pressure of real tournaments, for experiencing as many pairs as they can. So they can avoid being caught with guard downs for the first time playing another Taiwan or Japanese pair alike.


I hate to be like pemuda but aren't you seeing something wrong for all this?
They getting better and getting worse at the same time. (What am I saying?:eek:). My point is by this rate, the Olympic game will just hand it to luck and pure luck only.

In short- They only partner 1 year, were supposed to be paired together after OG, partnership, experience is young. They rose too fast, not stable yet, it's too much to ask them to get OG gold. Kido/Setiawan have partnered 3 to 4 yrs, Fu/Cai 5 years.
Fu/Cai were at 2004 OG, lost in QF, both say they were not matured enuf.
LD in 2004 was out in 1st rd.

What I posted, which a few BCers responded, was what Rexy said in public. Yes, we fans might think different, same as some posted that LCW shouldnt go for so many tourneys -
Ultimately we are not the coach or decision makers. Whether we think whether something is wrong or not doesnt make a difference to what they decide to do.

samuel882
01-21-2008, 06:24 AM
1) To protect the young TBH, who is buckling to the pressure. LCW took a couple of years to learn to cope. Works different for different people - TBH confidence already going down, lose more, confidence go down even more.

+ they got fatigued last year from participating in too many tourneys. Yes, yes one can argue Fu/Cai, Kido/Setiawan also participate in as many tourneys, but remember the intense criticism they will get each time they lose from government, media, fans. The vultures will come flying down in no time. So, no point participating if not 100% fit.

2) They dont need the ranking pts as much. LCW is goin for Korea, but he might not go for Swiss, the tourneys they choose not to go are different. LD didnt go for MO, he too can pick & choose tournaments.

3) Getting worse? Ppl forget so fast. After grounded 1st time, KKK/TBH won GP Gold Philipines Open, it's a 'small' achievement but sthing. After WC & Japan Open fiasco, they won Macau & Denmark Open.



Players are of different character, even if same coach, the approach may be different.

That was a very funny point of view, don't they?
1) Young Lads will never growth if they did not face much struggle in their life, Don't tell me wait till TBH become 26-28 then only realised : "Oh, I should have participate in more tournys and enjoy it . Now, my movements is damn slow and could not smash as much as before!"

2) LCW needs more ranking points to Qualify than Koo/Tan for OG? Not much Tournys left for OG Qualification. Do u think both of them will be rank outside top 16 before the Qualifying periods ended?

3) If that is the case, keep grounded them until they both feel comfortable to play. Or just go to defend that precious AE title in Birmingham then grounded again until Thomas Cup finals in MAY.

samuel882
01-21-2008, 06:26 AM
In short- They only partner 1 year, were supposed to be paired together after OG, partnership, experience is young. They rose too fast, not stable yet, it's too much to ask them to get OG gold. Kido/Setiawan have partnered 3 to 4 yrs, Fu/Cai 5 years.
Fu/Cai were at 2004 OG, lost in QF, both say they were not matured enuf.
LD in 2004 was out in 1st rd.

What I posted, which a few BCers responded, was what Rexy said in public. Yes, we fans might think different, same as some posted that LCW shouldnt go for so many tourneys -
Ultimately we are not the coach or decision makers. Whether we think whether something is wrong or not doesnt make a difference to what they decide to do.
Keep enjoying what being said from the media and have faith with their news always ;)

george@chongwei
01-21-2008, 06:31 AM
hehe...
in the final yesterday...i go and buy the upper tier ticket but i seat in the middle of the stadium, lower tier..

eaglehelang
01-21-2008, 07:04 AM
That was a very funny point of view, don't they?
1) Young Lads will never growth if they did not face much struggle in their life, Don't tell me wait till TBH become 26-28 then only realised : "Oh, I should have participate in more tournys and enjoy it . Now, my movements is damn slow and could not smash as much as before!"

2) LCW needs more ranking points to Qualify than Koo/Tan for OG? Not much Tournys left for OG Qualification. Do u think both of them will be rank outside top 16 before the Qualifying periods ended?

3) If that is the case, keep grounded them until they both feel comfortable to play. Or just go to defend that precious AE title in Birmingham then grounded again until Thomas Cup finals in MAY.

1) Was repeating zqlog's reason.
TBH, as you know is 20++. Well... ask Rexy what he meant "Kita harus melindungi mereka." or 'quality training'.
Not 100% fit part was clarified in the post after that.

2) as addition to chrisccc's post. They already qualified - LCW, KKK/TBH. Posts bf that were saying why LCW is going to KO, why isnt KKK/TBH going also, why Rexy not letting them go, etc, etc. KKK/TBH are going for AE & Swiss. Sesssssh...........as if KKK/TBH missing all tourneys.

- my point as stated already- LCW goes for KO, he might miss Swiss, not necessarily LCW is goin for all SS. LCW's case pulak, some posts were saying why he going for so many tourneys since he already qualify, etc,etc.

Like LD miss MO, maybe LD go KO, AE, Swiss. They pick & choose

AND LCW, KKK/TBH and gang are going for Thomas cup qualifiers in Feb.

3) Just stating what happened.

no 1) of your response, the other BCers were saying stuff along the same lines. So? It's already been decided they are not going. Whatever reasons Rexy had, the deed is done. The official reasons has already been given.

4) LOL, I read the reports & take some salt with it. That's why I said "in public", in private, could be anything.
Anyway, the passionate responses of BCers show how much they care for their heros.

chris-ccc
01-21-2008, 07:29 AM
2) LCW needs more ranking points to Qualify than Koo/Tan for OG? Not much Tournys left for OG Qualification. Do u think both of them will be rank outside top 16 before the Qualifying periods ended?



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It is quite certain now that both LCW and KKK/TBH have qualified for the OG 2008.

Their qualifying points are high enough already... they can now select some tournaments that Misbun and Rexy suggest/recommend.
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Han
01-21-2008, 11:10 AM
That's the beauty of this forum, we all come from different backgrounds with diverse experiences expressing our view about badminton related topics, really doesn't matter we agree or disagree, we respect and have fun with each other opinion.

Birdwood
01-21-2008, 11:23 AM
hehe...
in the final yesterday...i go and buy the upper tier ticket but i seat in the middle of the stadium, lower tier..

I thought you were down there with Ants and disguised as photojournalist (thanks for the nice pictures) :D

george@chongwei
01-21-2008, 11:25 AM
I thought you were down there with Ants and disguised as photojournalist (thanks for the nice pictures) :D
i where got the chance to go down there as i had no pass and dunno how to get the pass..
haizzz.

V3i HoN6
01-21-2008, 07:34 PM
I believe what Rexy knows whats the best for them. TBH's problem is not fitness, its the confidence and the pressure issue, perhaps doing damage control is Rexy's priority right now.
He said he will resign along with his reason and claimed that his decision is final, then take it back the next day saying perhaps it was satan driven. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for him to stay but that shows as good someone can be, he make the wrong decision sometimes. He may think that's best for them, but some of use think that's not the best for them.

I think the best way for them is to play more with other players instead of training with their teammates.


In short- They only partner 1 year, were supposed to be paired together after OG, partnership, experience is young. They rose too fast, not stable yet, it's too much to ask them to get OG gold. Kido/Setiawan have partnered 3 to 4 yrs, Fu/Cai 5 years.
Fu/Cai were at 2004 OG, lost in QF, both say they were not matured enuf.
LD in 2004 was out in 1st rd.

What I posted, which a few BCers responded, was what Rexy said in public. Yes, we fans might think different, same as some posted that LCW shouldnt go for so many tourneys -
Ultimately we are not the coach or decision makers. Whether we think whether something is wrong or not doesnt make a difference to what they decide to do.
I know they were young, but they couldn't hide behind this advantage for too long. They will gonna have to face the pressure someday. Protection is alright for me for last year. Then they should go all out this year and maybe skip the one right before the Olympic. My thought is that over protection for TBH is put at the risk of KKK.

Btw, I wasn't making a decision here.
I was well aware I'm in a discussion here.
So let's move on. Cheers.

LenKing
01-21-2008, 08:11 PM
hehe...
in the final yesterday...i go and buy the upper tier ticket but i seat in the middle of the stadium, lower tier..
Wah! So good ah! U so smart lah!!

george@chongwei
01-21-2008, 09:53 PM
Wah! So good ah! U so smart lah!!
yup...heheh...
here is the picture of my ticket...
i buy the upper tier free seating ticket but i seat at the lower tier middle...hehe
damn lucky...

Tjun Tjun
01-22-2008, 04:14 AM
That's the beauty of this forum, we all come from different backgrounds with diverse experiences expressing our view about badminton related topics, really doesn't matter we agree or disagree, we respect and have fun with each other opinion.

Well said. Can't agree more.

cooler
01-22-2008, 04:19 AM
yup...heheh...
here is the picture of my ticket...
i buy the upper tier free seating ticket but i seat at the lower tier middle...hehe
damn lucky...i dont understand, why do u buy a 'free' ticket?

Tjun Tjun
01-22-2008, 04:21 AM
hehe...
in the final yesterday...i go and buy the upper tier ticket but i seat in the middle of the stadium, lower tier..

Are the one we saw on TV carrying the banner "Lee Chong Wei, Champion Forever" and jumping up and down every single point LCW won? :D:D:D

george@chongwei
01-22-2008, 06:09 AM
nope, thats not me tjun tjun....!.

george@chongwei
01-22-2008, 06:10 AM
i dont understand, why do u buy a 'free' ticket?
when i buy free ticket?
i bought the upper tier that can seat where u like, thats called free seating...

eaglehelang
01-22-2008, 06:27 AM
nope, thats not me tjun tjun....!.

like that, were you the Red T-shirt beside the white T-shirt young man. both were standing up, clap very wildly in 3rd set near the end. Jumping up & down also.

george@chongwei
01-22-2008, 06:55 AM
like that, were you the Red T-shirt beside the white T-shirt young man. both were standing up, clap very wildly in 3rd set near the end. Jumping up & down also.
im not sure whos beside me, but do u have the video of that match??