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bill681231
01-20-2008, 02:22 AM
What do you think who will be the champ in 2008 Olympic after you watch the Malaysia SS? Pls share.

WS: The danish girl had a great SS, she is the only one who can seriously threat the chinese squad. Some may argue WMZ has the chance too, but she is lack of the killing weapon like Tine: powerful and deep smash.
If Tine impove a bit on her consistency, the only Chinese can stop her would be XXF, cauz she has longer arms/legs for better defense, and she clears more acuate and close to the baseline, whcih is the key to give herself a bit more time and space for Tine's killer smash.

zqloy
01-20-2008, 03:39 AM
Tine and WMC had different strengths. Tine has excellent attacking play. WMC on the other hand has excellent defense and stamina. However, both have an injury weakness. If they can improve on the consistency, both stand a chance for a medal.

winnie
01-20-2008, 04:37 AM
IMO, eriko is gonna be another non-china's players to look out for

d65up2
01-20-2008, 05:26 AM
Maria Kristin!!! Nah just kidding never mind

**KZ**
01-20-2008, 06:53 AM
jap players like eriko and kaori have always been a threat but lately they have not been playing as well as last time.......jap players seem to play well for a while and thn play really bad later....like sato shoji....i remember in 2005 he was kicking ass....quarter finals of WC and almost beat LD...he was fast...and i mean real fast...now....he's gone downhill...

abedeng
01-20-2008, 07:53 AM
Quite agree with zqloy, the tactical difference between Tine and Wong Mew Choo is very different. Just because she presumably lacks a killing weapon does not make her inferior tactically.

Among non-CHN challengers, we have two different groups, attacking minded players led by Tine, Zhou Mi, Wang Chen, Yippie, Yao Jie etc. I am very impressed with Tine's attacking prowess, even from baseline, her smashes were sometimes too powerful for Zhu Lin and Lu Lan to block.

The second group is more rally and defence type players, Wong Mew Choo, Pi Hongyan, Xu Huaiwen, Hirose, Maria Kristin belong to this group. Some of them, Hirose and Pi especially, do have certain offensive weapons as well.

In any case, I expect both groups (those who qualify, that is) to be able to provide credible challenge to the Olympics WS crown. In the first 3 Olympics, Gold was won by extremely fit rally type players (Susi Susanti, Bang Soo Hyun and Gong Zhichao). Zhang Ning remains the only attack minded player to have ever won the WS crown.

llpjlau
01-20-2008, 10:29 AM
i was extremely worried when TR sprained/rolled her ankle. didnt want lu lan to win. but yes, she does stand a chance for a medal. probably not gold though because there is still XXF and ZN.

jimbo
01-20-2008, 10:40 AM
After winning MO, no one should doubts Tine's ability to challenge for OG GOLD. However, I beg to differ coz the game will be played at CHEENA and LYB's would have his army surrounding the arena :rolleyes:

So, I dont think Tine will in the podium for the GOLD/Silver, but Bronze ;)

llpjlau
01-20-2008, 10:42 AM
jimbo, did you forget that XXF wasn't there? and that ZN had a shock defeat? nevertheless, i agree TR is a good player. just absolutely loved her comeback in the second set.

volcom
01-20-2008, 10:49 AM
My preditcions... China still extremely reliant on Lin Dan to win in Mens Singles, everyone else in the Chinese team can be good on their day or even awesome other days they are just plain mediocre especially Bao Chunlai and Chen Jin. Chen Yu has serious fitness problems. Chen Hong just seems a non threat nowdays.

zqloy
01-20-2008, 11:02 AM
After winning MO, no one should doubts Tine's ability to challenge for OG GOLD. However, I beg to differ coz the game will be played at CHEENA and LYB's would have his army surrounding the arena :rolleyes:

So, I dont think Tine will in the podium for the GOLD/Silver, but Bronze ;)

Not impossible though, esp the players like Tine and WMC will hv zero pressure playing in Beijing. Unlike the chinese whom will be shouldering huge pressure in home ground.

jimbo
01-20-2008, 11:19 AM
Not impossible though, esp the players like Tine and WMC will hv zero pressure playing in Beijing. Unlike the chinese whom will be shouldering huge pressure in home ground.

It's funny that humans are forgetful :rolleyes: Did we forget CO 07 (LCW vs BCL) and other matches that were heavily criticized by unbiased calls? It'd be big mistake to believe that LYB would allow anyone cracking his GREAT WALL. So, not a chance, i would say... yet, I hope to see miracles happen :D

Msia Boleh...!!!!

jug8man
01-20-2008, 11:27 AM
Prediction : Setiawan will reach Tony G / Chandra / Sigit legendary status.

zqloy
01-20-2008, 11:31 AM
It's funny that humans are forgetful :rolleyes: Did we forget CO 07 (LCW vs BCL) and other matches that were heavily criticized by unbiased calls? It'd be big mistake to believe that LYB would allow anyone cracking his GREAT WALL. So, not a chance, i would say... yet, I hope to see miracles happen :D

Msia Boleh...!!!!

Dont think the umpire and linejudges will be their own ppl, this is no normal open tournament. If that really happens, the chinese should prepare to be shamed for their lives...

Han
01-20-2008, 12:25 PM
Dont think the umpire and linejudges will be their own ppl, this is no normal open tournament. If that really happens, the chinese should prepare to be shamed for their lives...

If you believe you do it for the country then it only brings pride, not shame! We are looking at different angles hence have different opinion. The only way is to utilize the technologies to eliminate this issue.

fishyjojo
01-20-2008, 07:11 PM
it'd bring china shame if other countries complain. it's the olympics and all eyes would be on how well and how fair they will be as competing hosts.

V3i HoN6
01-20-2008, 09:28 PM
Xie Xing Fang is still the answer to China squad, unless she slip at toilet again during Olympic.
And mentally XXF is feared by both Tine and WMC.

chris-ccc
01-20-2008, 09:48 PM
So, I don't think Tine will in the podium for the GOLD/Silver, but Bronze ;)







Xie Xing Fang is still the answer to China squad, unless she slip at toilet again during Olympic.

And mentally XXF is feared by both Tine and WMC.



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Hahaha... With LYB trying to break the legs of all other non-Chinese players (thus generating FEAR :)), China could score well @Beijing Olympics 2008. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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abedeng
01-20-2008, 11:47 PM
How does Tine and WMC fear XXF? WMC has beaten XXF twice, once on XXF's home province, with a few other matches going close.

Tine too has beaten XXF once, also with a few other matches lasting the distance. Tine's victory against XXF last year was even more impressive than her win against ZL yesterday. Almost perfect badminton. Forget about XXF's hairstyle in that match.

With the games in Beijing, Tine and WMC will come forward with open minds and no doubts ........ as long as both of them cut down on their unforced errors and master the new arena's drift.

ctjcad
01-20-2008, 11:55 PM
In any case, I expect both groups (those who qualify, that is) to be able to provide credible challenge to the Olympics WS crown. In the first 3 Olympics, Gold was won by extremely fit rally type players (Susi Susanti, Bang Soo Hyun and Gong Zhichao). Zhang Ning remains the only attack minded player to have ever won the WS crown.
..that applies esp. to all Singles game..Stamina/fitness, above all, and doing & executing the basic skills/techniques **consistently** will be keys..:cool:

badMania
01-21-2008, 12:02 AM
The non-Chinese contingent will be feeling confident now that Xie Xingfang is confirmed not going to Seoul, while Zhu Lin will also be flying back home, leaving the vulnerable Zhang Ning and the shaky Lu Lan as the flag-bearers.

Lu Lan will start off with a tough match against Yao Jie in R32, followed by Yao's teammate, Judith Meulendijks in R16. Wang Chen [5] will probably be waiting in the Quarter-Final. Even if she can progress to the Semi-Final, Wong Mew Choo [8] will likely be her opponent.

Zhang Ning [2] faces an easier route with Petya Nedeltcheva in R32, and then either Salakjit Ponsana or Julia Wong in R16. Yip Pui Yin [8] or Zhou Mi will likely be her opponent in the QF and if she can beat all of them, a bunch of players like Xu Huaiwen, Pi Hongyan [4], Jun Jae Yun, Kanako Yonekura and Tine Rasmussen will await her in the Semi-Final.

Loh
01-21-2008, 12:07 AM
After winning MO, no one should doubts Tine's ability to challenge for OG GOLD. However, I beg to differ coz the game will be played at CHEENA and LYB's would have his army surrounding the arena :rolleyes:

So, I dont think Tine will in the podium for the GOLD/Silver, but Bronze ;)

LYB will not have it his way, not if the new BWF ruling of engaging neutral officials, ie from overseas, is implemented.

LYB will also not be able to play his "round the clock and command game" because there is a limit to the number of participants from each country, maximum of three if all three is within world ranking 4.

So Tine and WMC and Hirose and ...... still have a chance to get an Olympic medal :D.

Han
01-21-2008, 01:41 AM
The non-Chinese contingent will be feeling confident now that Xie Xingfang is confirmed not going to Seoul, while Zhu Lin will also be flying back home, leaving the vulnerable Zhang Ning and the shaky Lu Lan as the flag-bearers.

Lu Lan will start off with a tough match against Yao Jie in R32, followed by Yao's teammate, Judith Meulendijks in R16. Wang Chen [5] will probably be waiting in the Quarter-Final. Even if she can progress to the Semi-Final, Wong Mew Choo [8] will likely be her opponent.

Zhang Ning [2] faces an easier route with Petya Nedeltcheva in R32, and then either Salakjit Ponsana or Julia Wong in R16. Yip Pui Yin [8] or Zhou Mi will likely be her opponent in the QF and if she can beat all of them, a bunch of players like Xu Huaiwen, Pi Hongyan [4], Jun Jae Yun, Kanako Yonekura and Tine Rasmussen will await her in the Semi-Final.

This is very interesting observation as usually the non-Chinese contingents are the one to get "squeeze" and now the tide has changed. Even in MS with Lin Dan participating, the domination is not as severe as it once was when Chen Hong was still a major force in Team China, it will be interesting to see the outcome of Korea Open!

madbad
01-21-2008, 02:10 AM
As far as the WS are concerned, I can't see some of vets of the circuit like Pi HY or Wang Chen making an impact, much less so Yao Jie or Xu HW. Obvious choices because of their recent performances include Tine and WMC. Someone like Yippy could have an impact but I don't see Eriko cutting it. Sorry INA or SIN fans, your girls are still a long ways off. My dark horse, and she has pedigree (pun intended), is Jun Jae Yun from Korea.

badMania
01-21-2008, 02:21 AM
As far as the WS are concerned, I can't see some of vets of the circuit like Pi HY or Wang Chen making an impact, much less so Yao Jie or Xu HW. Obvious choices because of their recent performances include Tine and WMC. Someone like Yippy could have an impact but I don't see Eriko cutting it. Sorry INA or SIN fans, your girls are still a long ways off. My dark horse, and she has pedigree (pun intended), is Jun Jae Yun from Korea.

Nah...I am happy if Firda can pass the first round :D Luck is on her side apparently as Xie withdraws and so, I think she occupies Xie's place now on top of the draw :D Incidentally, her first match will be against the first qualifier. So, she has a chance of progressing to R16, probably facing Bae Youn Joo or Jeanine Cicognini :cool:

eaglehelang
01-21-2008, 03:15 AM
The non-Chinese contingent will be feeling confident now that Xie Xingfang is confirmed not going to Seoul, while Zhu Lin will also be flying back home, leaving the vulnerable Zhang Ning and the shaky Lu Lan as the flag-bearers.



This 'non-Chinese contingent' thing has got me curious, since you're in HK, HK team is run independently from China team right?

Do HK players regard themselves as 'non-Chinese contigent' (of course politically they are under China, sentiments are said to be different) ?
i.e. part of the "rest of the world" vs great wall of China

vching
01-21-2008, 03:26 AM
my Malaysian Open post mortem analysis

The Badminton Blog - Malaysian Open 2008 Aftermath (http://thebadmintonblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/malaysian-open-2008-aftermath.html)

badMania
01-21-2008, 03:46 AM
This 'non-Chinese contingent' thing has got me curious, since you're in HK, HK team is run independently from China team right?

Do HK players regard themselves as 'non-Chinese contigent' (of course politically they are under China, sentiments are said to be different) ?
i.e. part of the "rest of the world" vs great wall of China

IMHO, the HK Squad is of course run separately from the China squad :cool:

vching
01-21-2008, 05:35 AM
I think HK players regard themselves as 'separate' from China...

abedeng
01-21-2008, 06:04 AM
I still believe Pi, Yippie and the bouncy Eriko can trouble the CHN, well perhaps every CHN player but XXF ....... Cannot get the image of Eriko bouncing on court out of my head for past few days.

Jun can definitely trouble XXF. Wonder why she didn't participate in Malaysian Open. It seems that when Jun participates, Hwang Hye Youn doesn't and vice-versa.

chris-ccc
01-21-2008, 07:15 AM
I still believe Pi, Yippie and the bouncy Eriko can trouble the CHN, well perhaps every CHN player but XXF ....... Cannot get the image of Eriko bouncing on court out of my head for past few days.



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Hahaha...... That's because Eriko is so small... therefore, bouncing on court is no problem for her. :D:D:D
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huangkwokhau
01-21-2008, 07:19 AM
Nah...I am happy if Firda can pass the first round :D Luck is on her side apparently as Xie withdraws and so, I think she occupies Xie's place now on top of the draw :D Incidentally, her first match will be against the first qualifier. So, she has a chance of progressing to R16, probably facing Bae Youn Joo or Jeanine Cicognini :cool:
Firda will play Kaori in 1st round...

badMania
01-21-2008, 08:44 AM
Firda will play Kaori in 1st round...

The draw still has Kaori Mori vs Eriko Hirose in R32. Unless Eriko withdraws :cool:

samuel882
01-21-2008, 03:16 PM
The draw still has Kaori Mori vs Eriko Hirose in R32. Unless Eriko withdraws :cool:
why the two Japenese Gals have to "KILL THEMSELVES" :mad: :crying::crying:

fishyjojo
01-21-2008, 03:59 PM
maybe somebody should do an anime-style illustration. lol