Korea Open 2008 - Day 6 - Jan 27 - FINALS!

[THEbaschti]

YESS LHI levels it comon take it

[Felicia_txh]

23 all now.....LD...finish it!!!

[abedeng]

LHI puts heroic effort to save it, deuce.

[Louisa]

and LD wanna use his racket to hit korean officer.....terrible....

[Han]

come on, someone please win, please, 23-23

[jasonmarc]

its going to decides at 30 - 29 ?

[phaarix]

Wow, I don't really mind who wins now, I just wanna download this match :D!

[eaglehelang]

again 23-23, seessh very close very close

[extremenanopowe]

LHI live happily ever after. hehehe..

[pauline]

Lee Hyun Il!!!! omg,from 21-4 to damn exciting game...

[robin7]

Match pt for LHI 24-23....

[skunklover]

LHI match point.....

[shyeling]

this is the 1st time i realize that i can feel so nervous even jz view on the livescore...

[xsakurax]

LHI match point!

[Wong8Egg]

Wow, I don't really mind who wins now, I just wanna download this match :D!

I second that :D:D:D:D:D:D

[ants]

Lee Hyun Ill wins!

[skunklover]

LHI wins..............

[jasonmarc]

and LD wanna use his racket to hit korean officer.....terrible....

Show him the red card lah...;)

[THEbaschti]

Wow LHI that's a hell of a comeback after 4-21 in first set!! Grea job!

[Felicia_txh]

LHI won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Homeground advantage!!!!

[extremenanopowe]

fight ahhhh... huat ahhhh. hooot ahhh. taaaaaahhh

[abedeng]

LHI makes a net winner, and LD net error gives him the title.

LD walks away in disgust.

[robin7]

LD was upset. Great comeback by LHI. LHI won. What a karma for CHN.

[eaglehelang]

and LD wanna use his racket to hit korean officer.....terrible....

Ya kah? Due to the bad line call?

Now LD must be really really angry & LYB too. LHI won 25-23. Giving CHina a taste of their own medicine but their players lose out/

[phaarix]

WOW WOW, reeeeally didn't expect LHI to win! What an incredible turn around! Congrats to both players...

[Hubert]

Fantastic play LHI.... congratulations.

[jasonmarc]

Yes...LHI won.....and LYB mad...mad...and chn lost two finals ...hahahaha

[skunklover]

wow.......i was hella nervouse....yet it was a livescore feed......wow

[Han]

Lee Hyun Ill wins!

Did he win without the help of the line judges?

[Wong8Egg]

LHI makes a net winner, and LD net error gives him the title.

LD walks away in disgust.

that is understandable with all the bad calls.

[extremenanopowe]

what a climax..... better then ummm... phew...

[xsakurax]

Lhi shows great fighting spirit eventhough he lost 21-4 in the first game..congrats!!

[bcmmgr]

Hopefully Luluk/Alvent can win, and see what LYB say this time!

[pauline]

AH AH AH!! LHI finally wins!! congrats!

[**KZ**]

haha....gud...LHI won...what a great match....a taste oftheir own mdicine for CHN....so happy....and boy do Chinese ppl love to fight....I've seen it in life and now on TV...

[eaglehelang]

this is the 1st time i realize that i can feel so nervous even jz view on the livescore...

Imagine watch on tv for those with Astro, even more exciting.!!!

[morphy]

omg Chn wall crumbling hard....awesome display by the Korean!

[F-Man]

The whole of Korea shoudl feel ashamed. Shame on you all! CHEAT!!!!

[robin7]

Was the disputable line call correct?

[Shiro]

Yay LHI won...! Really superb performance in this great game. Both players were awesome. The crowd must have been really entertained with this kind of drama in badminton.

[Jessica]

Sigh..I think the hawk eye system is really needed in badminton which always have the problem with the lines call.Although the hawk eye system is not hundred percent accurate,but its still better than now.Its really disgrace for badminton if the incident just now happen again.

[Hubert]

i hope cctv5 will still replay the matches later, they don't usually air the lose games.. hehehe

[extremenanopowe]

ok. videos pls.... siaran tamat... pls up load and beam them up....

[wanalexwan]

In China, LD complained about the line calls been "not helping" the local players. So towards the later stages, many foreign players (esp LCW) complained. China has always complained about Korea in this aspect.

How can badminton remain popular and how can we support when biased calls almost blatantly happen? This does not augur well for the sport.

[eaglehelang]

Abedeng, Robin7 & Louisa, does LYB look like going to unleash a CHina Tsunami?

Were there a lot of bad line calls that werent corrected?

[robin7]

Did he win without the help of the line judges?
CHN has the karma for what they did in China Open last year.

[abedeng]

Korean linejudges should have had more belief in their players.

Would have made Korea's victory sweeter.

LD swallows his pride and accepts his medal graciously.

[Louisa]

Show him the red card lah...;)
well, a few parties shud be blamed...first the linesman...tat shud be out...but called in in favour of LHI...so LD of coz shout la...then Li Mao stood up go and scold him (i think)...then Chn officers oso come forward....then donno why LD wanna use his racquet to hit the officer....n the umpire gave him yellow card....

frankly speaking, a few bad calls were turned in favour of LD, but this crucial one, is in favour of LD, that is why he was so angry lo...coz if that one call out, then LD will be at match point....

sigh, sigh, sigh...this should not happen....

[Felicia_txh]

Malaysia is more fair n square in badminton!!!:)

[Wong8Egg]

Sigh..I think the hawk eye system is really needed in badminton which always have the problem with the lines call.Although the hawk eye system is not hundred percent accurate,but its still better than now.Its really disgrace for badminton if the incident just now happen again.

Did anyone counted how many dispute calls during the game??

[phaarix]

I thought most of the bad line calls were overruled?? (wasn't watching so I don't know!)

[F-Man]

What a joke. Such bad publicity for the sport of badminton. I feel embarassed for us all. You Koreans really take a careful look at yourselves.

[Arsene]

What actually happen ?
Can someone elaborate the disputable line call ?

[Han]

Sigh..I think the hawk eye system is really needed in badminton which always have the problem with the lines call.Although the hawk eye system is not hundred percent accurate,but its still better than now.Its really disgrace for badminton if the incident just now happen again.

Korea and China are the two places that have high controversy of line calls, very unfortunate.

[morphy]

I didn't see the match, was there some obvious bad calls??
have to see the vid or cctv5 if they show it on tape delay...

[eaglehelang]

Sigh..I think the hawk eye system is really needed in badminton which always have the problem with the lines call.Although the hawk eye system is not hundred percent accurate,but its still better than now.Its really disgrace for badminton if the incident just now happen again.

Which one Jessica? There were a few right? THe one at 23-22?

[skunklover]

wow...abedeng..u in the stadium.......

[jasonmarc]

The whole of Korea shoudl feel ashamed. Shame on you all! CHEAT!!!!

Maybe you are right!...both Chn and Kor should feel that way......and now LD himselves feel the pain of being cheated........?:cool:

[apontoh]

this is hands down the most exciting match i've ever seen!!!!!!!!!!! CONGRATS KOREA!!!!!!!!!!

[xsakurax]

well, a few parties shud be blamed...first the linesman...tat shud be out...but called in in favour of LHI...so LD of coz shout la...then Li Mao stood up go and scold him (i think)...then Chn officers oso come forward....then donno why LD wanna use his racquet to hit the officer....n the umpire gave him yellow card....

frankly speaking, a few bad calls were turned in favour of LD, but this crucial one, is in favour of LD, that is why he was so angry lo...coz if that one call out, then LD will be at match point....

sigh, sigh, sigh...this should not happen....


waa he wants to use racquet to hit the officer..that is so bad....

[THEbaschti]

Didn't see the match so I don't know about the line calls, but this is just so poor if it happened again...disgusting, how shall a sport get attention and like big $$$ deals if things like these don't only happen but seem to be day-to-day routine...phew...

[**KZ**]

the whole of korea should not be ashamed because china will always be there to share the shame...

[robin7]

Abedeng, Robin7 & Louisa, does LYB look like going to unleash a CHina Tsunami?

Were there a lot of bad line calls that werent corrected?
I didn't see LYB. But the umpire corrected many bad calls except the most important one at match point. Haha, KOR repaid CHN for what CHN owed MAS in China Open last year.

[Han]

another long match coming, WD. Shouldn't have any bad line call on this one :D

[Louisa]

that is understandable with all the bad calls.
all the bad calls turned good for LD, only the last 1 which sparked the fire...

[Hubert]

jasonmarc, i totally agree with you.

[Felicia_txh]

Wat's LD reaction during the ceremony???????

[extremenanopowe]

Fren,
lets see ourselves and judge. No point assuming now. Enjoy the game later.

When coming olympics expects the linesman to call in even though lindan hits it out one feet away.

[yu hua]

even our LCW tat experience this the most also nvr do lik tat, LD is far away too crazy.

[terry]

The LAST was really a bad call. Which is clear out smash by LHI to LD. Then the rest LiMao act or LD act not really much we can comment because due to tournament definely everyone is on pressure. So any act was not purpose.

[Wong8Egg]

Maybe you are right!...both Chn and Kor should feel that way......and now LD himselves feel the pain of being cheated........?:cool:

LD didn't direct the linesmen in China. The players are the one who suffers. Both winner and the loser.

[abedeng]

To the umpire's credit, all bad line calls were overruled. The call that made LD angry was not overruled, it was ruled correct. Looked like it clipped the line on the outside, and definitely not blatant like those other overrules.

But by that time, LD had np confidence in line judges already.

Imagine if those bad corrected calls did not happen, maybe he would not have overreacted.

[xsakurax]

well it would be a really good lesson for the china team....so that they will not repeat the mistake just like in china open...

[vching]

wht happened? can anybody elaborate?

[Felicia_txh]

well it woul be be a really good lesson for the china team....so that they will not repeat the mistake just like in china open...
They will never regret wif wat they've done!!I believe the mistakes wil be repeat again!!:o

[eaglehelang]

I didn't see LYB. But the umpire corrected many bad calls except the most important one at match point. Haha, KOR repaid CHN for what CHN owed MAS in China Open last year.

Was that the one Louisa said LD wanted to hit the official with racket & got yellow card for it?

[xsakurax]

They will never regret wif wat they've done!!I believe the mistakes wil be repeat again!!:o

haiz if it is like that...i dunno what can i say anymore >.<

[Louisa]

Korean linejudges should have had more belief in their players.

Would have made Korea's victory sweeter.

LD swallows his pride and accepts his medal graciously.
but the scene where he get involve n rise his racquet was being recorded down...most of us will be reminded all the time...like what he did to us in CAT CITY here 2 years ago...no badline calls, we stood up to appreciate lcw n his good game...and he paid us back by disrespecting our minister n culture...certainly this time, he learn from mistake...he is more mature...

[eaglehelang]

wht happened? can anybody elaborate?

Scroll back & read

[cheeyf]

yes lhi won
wat a close game and a great comeback from him

[robin7]

Good. CHN lost MS & WS titles. Hope Lukvent can turn the table around in MD.

Btw, Djokovic-Tsonga match is about to start. Where is Jessica?

Go go Djokovic.

[Wong8Egg]

IBF needs to promote to all host country what a "fair game" means

[yu hua]

look like upset is still going on! hope the last two will make it a surprise for kor open!

[Ching293]

the umpire was not korean right..

[Felicia_txh]

Good luck 2 INA pairs later!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)Hope they are not affect by the bad news of Suharto!!!
Nid 2 leave now!!!!bye guys....:)

[apontoh]

But by that time, LD had np confidence in line judges already.

Imagine if those bad corrected calls did not happen, maybe he would not have overreacted.

very well said...shame on the korean line judges....hopefully the olympics will employ line judges from different nationals

[blkhtm]

they should learn from malaysia open linesman,right call and honest.

[phaarix]

LD didn't direct the linesmen in China. The players are the one who suffers. Both winner and the loser.

Yup exactly, not Lin Dan's fault! And yeah they both suffer. The eventual winner gets less of a feeling of achievement as they know that part of their win was attributed to bad calls. And the eventual loser? Well of course they lose! And feel cheated. Not good for anyone in the end. And those that MADE the bad calls especially. Makes them look really bad, and they deserve it!

[Erwin Kyoto]

i hope cctv5 will still replay the matches later, they don't usually air the lose games.. hehehe

3 mnt rest..soccer game will be finished..CCTV will show KO again...:D

[jasonmarc]

LD didn't direct the linesmen in China. The players are the one who suffers. Both winner and the loser.

It is always sad....when things like this happened....right..and please make sure no body repeats it....for the sake of the sport..:rolleyes:

[Louisa]

Was that the one Louisa said LD wanted to hit the official with racket & got yellow card for it?
yes, the last badcall, i think that 1 went out but called in...n LD went on to complain...u know his style la, like wanna quarrel with ppl, then Li Mao stood up and walked towards him (i guess)...then the party begun...sigh!!!so memalukan (shameful)...LD win or LHI win nevermind, but we want good game n fair play...this time, player, coaches n officers got involved....:mad:

[extremenanopowe]

eeeiiii fedex lost ah??? walau eh... the clown good lah.:D


Good. CHN lost MS & WS. Hope Lukvent can turn the table around MD.

Btw, Djokovic-Tsonga match is about to start. Where is Jessica?

Go go Djokovic.

[robin7]

Was that the one Louisa said LD wanted to hit the official with racket & got yellow card for it?
Just threatening to do so. I know he won't.

[Louisa]

the umpire was not korean right..
yes, is not Korean....that is why all the bad calls were turned good, only the last one...

[extremenanopowe]

some people said these top players are a bit electric-electric one... it's normal.

[xsakurax]

haiz when ever the game involve the china team players, there will always be alot of controversy..dunno when this things can stop =_=''

[vching]

hmm...

If the Korean Linesmen indeed deliberately and unfairly called calls against LD, then the Koreans are no better than the Chinese. Cheats.

Anyway, kudos to the umpire for overturning the calls.

[economet]

I've seen the match. The Korean SBS showed the last disputable line call twice. It could be interpreted in both ways, in or out.

Every bad call (three times) were corrected by the umpire, and it's good. Bad calls had an negtive effect on LHI because he was not sure during the whole match if the shuttle cock is in or out and as consequence didn't return a couple of times. It also affected LHI in decisive moments when he had to finish with a smash and aim the lines.

This was a match which clearly showed that bad line calls can affect not only the opponent, but also the favoured player. Last but not least, Badminton should be a sport in which every player and fan could agree with the results however the match ends.

[george@chongwei]

wow, it was a nail bitting and controversial between li mao and chinese coach..
that match was extraordinary..
all i can says is SUPERB!!
TO ME, THIS IS THE MATCH OF THE DECADE!!

[eaglehelang]

but the scene where he get involve n rise his racquet was being recorded down...most of us will be reminded all the time......

Wah that case, if LD experience what LCW experienced in the China Open finals, then even worse, maybe kick the divider & fist fight with official also will have.

Like that, our LCW quite cool already, added by Misbun's calmness.

[Morten]

Wathched the match and im sad to say that this is not the first time we see this in Korea. We have already heard from some players that they are skipping Korea Open due to these bad linecalls and that shows what this sport at the moment is lacking, professionality. What is more tragic is that the camera angle is also very subjective so it only shows the points where the shuttle is in/out in favor of the koreans. This have been seen in other countries too and with such unproffesional host countries, it doenst look like badminton has a bright future.

[george@chongwei]

im surprised also to see when lin dan complained about the line judge, the points were given to him..
luckily last point didnt give him....

[Louisa]

Just threatening to do so. I know he won't.
i m not sure on this (whether he will really hit or not), coz i saw 1 or 2 red shirt officers dragged him away/stop him....but I guess, I understand how LD feel...so bitter to swallow....pity him, just hope that he can stay 'calmer' next time, like lcw...

[george@chongwei]

the czech republic umpire also very hard do ppl..

[Jessica]

Sigh..I think the hawk eye system is really needed in badminton which always have the problem with the lines call.Although the hawk eye system is not hundred percent accurate,but its still better than now.Its really disgrace for badminton if the incident just now happen again.

Which one Jessica? There were a few right? THe one at 23-22?
I am refering to the one which the the coach and the players start to push each other..This incident goes like this.When LHI hit the shuttle out,the linesman actually call in and Lin Dan of course feel very furious.He shouted and went to complain to the umpire.The umpire then change the score in favour to Lin Dan.We though this is the end but Li Mao suddenly very angry and the fight started.

[robin7]

Tsonga's serve broken by Djokovic. Djokovic 1-0.

[abedeng]

IBF needs to promote to all host country what a "fair game" means

No, that's not good enough. BWF needs to enforce "fair game" and use of neutral officials throughout.

We don't want our favourite players to win or lose under controversial judgement. Victory must be earned.

[george@chongwei]

yeah, looks like lin dan goona hit li mao or dunno who with his racquet...
remember: hee is a soldier!
heheh

[yu hua]

oo afta LD lose, here is the conclusion.
CHN win 0 out of 2 MS SS event so far(dissapointing but still ok)
CHN win 0 out of 2 WS SS event so far(wit having world top 3 players,unbelieveable)
MAS win 0 out of 2 MD SS event so far(compare to last year, a disaster, not even a semis appearance)
DEN & KOR will b the biggest winner while INA doing well too.

[Erwin Kyoto]

how bout on court now...anyone look at the livescore????

[george@chongwei]

Tsonga's serve broken by Djokovic. Djokovic 1-0.
eh, apa ni? :D:Dheheh
means wats this..
tennis??:p:p

[skunklover]

wow....i am going to sleep now

[george@chongwei]

du jing /yu yang leading 11-10 now..
interval...

[extremenanopowe]

anybody going to write or get petition sign for hawkeye?

[Hubert]

3 mnt rest..soccer game will be finished..CCTV will show KO again...:D

:D hehehe.... 3mnt ... after the snow all melts away.
If FHF/CY won't win on MD... i bet cctv5 will never show the replay...

[xsakurax]

i m not sure on this (whether he will really hit or not), coz i saw 1 or 2 red shirt officers dragged him away/stop him....but I guess, I understand how LD feel...so bitter to swallow....pity him, just hope that he can stay 'calmer' next time, like lcw...

I think lcw handle this type of matter better than ld...he is more calm and accept the decision made by the umpire eventhough it is not in favour of him....we can now see how the bad line call can affect the players ..

[eaglehelang]

haiz when ever the game involve the china team players, there will always be alot of controversy..dunno when this things can stop =_=''

Not only China, Korea also. Read Badzine about the disputed line calls in earlier rounds.

[ycchen]

Too bad the umpire didn't over-rule the fifth bad line call. perhaps he couldn't view clearly the landing of the shuttle cock from his angle. Credit to both players for showing high quality skill today. :)

[shyeling]

the czech republic umpire also very hard do ppl..
hard do ppl=难做人？hahahaha...:D:D:D

[vching]

anybody going to write or get petition sign for hawkeye?

you mean this one arr??

http://www.petitiononline.com/bwfpet/petition.html :D:D:D

[Jessica]

i m not sure on this (whether he will really hit or not), coz i saw 1 or 2 red shirt officers dragged him away/stop him....but I guess, I understand how LD feel...so bitter to swallow....pity him, just hope that he can stay 'calmer' next time, like lcw...
I think this should also be a lesson to the china team which also acted like the Korean in the China SS which LCW feel very angry.I guess Lin Dan now can understand how LCW feel when he being treated like this.There are one chinese pharase sound like this “己所不欲，勿施于人"..Anyone mind to translate???:D

[vching]

Malaysians are still the fairest :D :D

[Erwin Kyoto]

:D hehehe.... 3mnt ... after the snow all melts away.
If FHF/CY won't win on MD... i bet cctv5 will never show the replay...

based on the CCTV schedule...they will show KO again start from 18.00 japan time...let wait for several menit..:o:p

[jasonmarc]

wow, it was a nail bitting and controversial between li mao and chinese coach..
that match was extraordinary..
all i can says is SUPERB!!
TO ME, THIS IS THE MATCH OF THE DECADE!!

Yes...a good one indeed. Remember when Li Mao taken over LCW from Misbun...in MO 06....LCW beaten LD in Final and now Li Mao trains LHI...and LHI also beaten LD in KOR Open 08...good records by Li Mao:D:D:D

[xsakurax]

Malaysians are still the fairest :D :D


hehe i agree with that =D

[morphy]

badminton back on cctv5...WD

[robin7]

I think this should also be a lesson to the china team which also acted like the Korean in the China SS which LCW feel very angry.I guess Lin Dan now can understand how LCW feel when he being treated like this.There are one chinese pharase sound like this “己所不欲，勿施于人"..Anyone mind to translate???:D
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you (http://www.bartleby.com/59/3/dountoother2.html).

The Golden Rule
Treat other people with the concern and kindness you would like them to show toward you.

[george@chongwei]

Malaysia is very clean!:D

[jasonmarc]

Malaysians are still the fairest :D :D

I agreed.....it was very clean tru out the recent MO 08 ....proud to be Malaysian badminton fan...:D:D:D

[extremenanopowe]

This line call issue will always be there and I expect some forumers here my make enemies to each other, which is not healthy. lets face it, everyone gets it no matter where you are. Lets lobby for the better and get those administrators to fix this problem. It is a shame to the game. Be proactive instead of looking a what tennis has done to follow after years and years of tested results. Money issue?

[Birdwood]

I'll bet Chn will skip next year's KO 09

[vching]

looks like its not only China that has this problem with unfair linejudging...

hawkeye anyone? Or a cheaper alternative... Maybe just a camera replay by a 3d (in this case, 2nd) umpire?

[george@chongwei]

gao ling jia you!!!.

[Jessica]

Malaysia is very clean!:D
Of course..We bath everyday..:D:D:D

[Erwin Kyoto]

CCTV back to show KO now...

[Hubert]

based on the CCTV schedule...they will show KO again start from 18.00 japan time...let wait for several menit..:o:p


good.. cctv5 now showing the WD now... and for sure no reply on the lose games.. :D:D:D

[Louisa]

There are one chinese pharase sound like this “己所不欲，勿施于人"..Anyone mind to translate???:D
okok, let the chinese teacher do it....means, if u don wan ppl to do something on u, don do it to other ppl.........kinda proactive...

[jasonmarc]

Of course..We bath everyday..:D:D:D

Are you sure you do?...hehehe....i am doubt that 'smelly Cat'...!:D:D:D

[economet]

I know both players personally, Lin Dan and Lee Hyun-Il.

Calmness of LHI brought him the victory.
After the disputable line call, Lin Dan was really in a rage, and Li Mao, a Chinese ironically, contributed to it the most, just by his presence.

In the very moment Lin Dan threw his raquet towards Li Mao, the mental side of Lin Dan was no more under control. I guess Li Mao kept shouting Lin Dan's weak points in order to give LHI an advice. It must have been really annoying for Super Dan. I will ask both at German Open.

My Guess: Super Dan even learned how important it can be to stay calm. He is my bet on the gold medal in Beijing 2008 Olympic Games.

[kwun]

this thread is for the Korean Open 2008 Finals. if you want to talk about the Australia TENNIS Open, go to its own thread:

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51425

[george@chongwei]

good.. cctv5 now showing the WD now... and for sure no reply on the lose games.. :D:D:D
or u want more clearer scren type..go here>> http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51734 and click on the link there....
i think the commentator is Gillian Clark!

[Erwin Kyoto]

good.. cctv5 now showing the WD now... and for sure no reply on the lose games.. :D:D:D

unfortunately CCTV will show KO for 1 hour only...as usuall the China WD playing in rubber games ...so no chance to watch MD final match in CCTV...:crying::(

[Han]

looks like its not only China that has this problem with unfair linejudging...

hawkeye anyone? Or a cheaper alternative... Maybe just a camera replay by a 3d (in this case, 2nd) umpire?

It really doesn't matter what equipment you use, hawk eye, night goggle vision, ... if someone really want to cheat, he/she will find a way. I recall the China Open 2007 didn't even border to replay the controversy calls. Is the organizer, not lack of equipment.

[Hubert]

looks like its not only China that has this problem with unfair linejudging...

hawkeye anyone? Or a cheaper alternative... Maybe just a camera replay by a 3d (in this case, 2nd) umpire?

a camera focusing on the side lines, and a "quick" slowmo replay will do i think....

[abedeng]

Meanwhile, GL/ZTT are trying to force rubber, having lost to the tomboys in the opening game.

5-7 tomboys catching up.

[robin7]

okok, let the chinese teacher do it....means, if u don wan ppl to do something on u, don do it to other ppl.........kinda proactive...
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=780323&postcount=878

[vching]

this thread is for the Korean Open 2008 Finals. if you want to talk about the Australia TENNIS Open, go to its own thread:

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51425

oops, sorry kwun :p:p:p

[Jessica]

oops, sorry kwun :p:p:p
Me too..Sorry..I won't do it again..:p:o

[vching]

It really doesn't matter what equipment you use, hawk eye, night goggle vision, ... if someone really want to cheat, he/she will find a way. I recall the China Open 2007 didn't even border to replay the controversy calls. Is the organizer, not lack of equipment.

night goggle vision.... how does THAT work? :p:p:p

[abedeng]

Tomboys shout in unison after grabbing 8 straight pts to go 11-7 up.

[Louisa]

Are you sure you do?...hehehe....i am doubt that 'smelly Cat'...!:D:D:D
hey, Cat is the 'cleanest' animal on earth u know???:D

[jasonmarc]

I know both players personally, Lin Dan and Lee Hyun-Il.

Calmness of LHI brought him the victory.
After the disputable line call, Lin Dan was really in a rage, and Li Mao, a Chinese ironically, contributed to it the most, just by his presence.

In the very moment Lin Dan threw his raquet towards Li Mao, the mental side of Lin Dan was no more under control. I guess Li Mao kept shouting Lin Dan's weak points in order to give LHI an advice. It must have been really annoying for Super Dan. I will ask both at German Open.

My Guess: Super Dan even learned how important it can be to stay calm. He is my bet on the gold medal in Beijing 2008 Olympic Games.

Why these Coaches from China always like to shout during the on going match......LYB and Li Mao both the same ! And LD feel's that's annoying.....i wonder how's LCW feel's during WC 06 when he played BCL in QF.....'break his legs' ...hahaha

[Louisa]

looking good for DJ/YY

[eaglehelang]

I'll bet Chn will skip next year's KO 09

now you fly in, a little late though, all the drama over

[vching]

hey, Cat is the 'cleanest' animal on earth u know???:D

i thought the PIG was the cleanest animal?

[vching]

Why these Coaches from China always like to shout during the on going match......LYB and Li Mao both the same ! And LD feel's that's annoying.....i wonder how's LCW feel's during WC 06 when he played BCL in QF.....'break his legs' ...hahaha

now LYB can have a taste of his own medicine :mad::mad::mad:

[abedeng]

Tomboys' run stopped at 13.

[robin7]

Du/Yu 13-7.........

[Hubert]

unfortunately CCTV will show KO for 1 hour only...as usuall the China WD playing in rubber games ...so no chance to watch MD final match in CCTV...:crying::(

:rolleyes: hmmm.. the tomboys will win it in straight sets.. its ok if my smilling assasin will lose.. so that there still time to air the MD... :D

[badMania]

Wathched the match and im sad to say that this is not the first time we see this in Korea. We have already heard from some players that they are skipping Korea Open due to these bad linecalls and that shows what this sport at the moment is lacking, professionality. What is more tragic is that the camera angle is also very subjective so it only shows the points where the shuttle is in/out in favor of the koreans. This have been seen in other countries too and with such unproffesional host countries, it doenst look like badminton has a bright future.

Taufik is smart to give this Korea Open a miss. He was the victim so many times, for example: Asian Games 2002 in Busan (team event match against Lee Hyun Il too if I am not wrong).

To a certain extent, Lee Chong Wei also decided wisely to quit the match when he was not feeling well. Imagine what will happen if the third set was as close and intense as today's match?

[george@chongwei]

oh no, gao ling is losing.!!

[jasonmarc]

i thought the PIG was the cleanest animal?

:D:D please respect the muslim forumer ......ok :p

[abedeng]

GL still smiling despite her error, 5 pts down.

[extremenanopowe]

no pets please.

[robin7]

this thread is for the Korean Open 2008 Finals. if you want to talk about the Australia TENNIS Open, go to its own thread:

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51425
Oops. Okok........

[Louisa]

:D:D please respect the muslim forumer ......ok :p
agree on this....but i think he doesn't really mean it...

[jasonmarc]

Yes, WD is bout to ends....MD next....

[abedeng]

Tomboys happy after winning quite easily.

GL still smiling.

[Erwin Kyoto]

:rolleyes: hmmm.. the tomboys will win it in straight sets.. its ok if my smilling assasin will lose.. so that there still time to air the MD... :D

I hope so....:D:p:p
let enjoy to watch MD final....hik..hik

[robin7]

Taufik is smart to give this Korea Open a miss. He was the victim so many times, for example: Asian Games 2002 in Busan (team event match against Lee Hyun Il too if I am not wrong).

To a certain extent, Lee Chong Wei also decided wisely to quit the match when he was not feeling well. Imagine what will happen if the third set was as close and intense as today's match?
Wise decision by both.

Btw, as I predicted, Du/Yu just won the WD match in straight sets.

[jasonmarc]

agree on this....but i think he doesn't really mean it...

That's mean....cat would be the cleanest animal in the world....right..:D:D..since you said he doesn't really mean it...hehehehe

[badMania]

Just came back from lunch (Hau-Ge is still outside with Alroy) and was quite pleased to learn that Lin Dan lost to Lee Hyun Il in rubber-sets, with the last 2 sets almost unbelievable.

Meanwhile, the tomboys Du Jing/Yu Yang have won another crown here in Seoul, beating Gao Ling/Zhao Tingting in straight sets 21-15, 21-13.

Now, we are on to the last match of the day: Luluk/Alvent vs Fu/Cai. Can Luluk/Alvent do the impossible? Hmm...

[eaglehelang]

To a certain extent, Lee Chong Wei also decided wisely to quit the match when he was not feeling well. Imagine what will happen if the third set was as close and intense as today's match?

He he, LCW already sick-lah. No strength to argue any bad line call. If really intense maybe he just faint loh. Then ppl will say the linesman fault causing a player to collapse.

[jasonmarc]

He he, LCW already sick-lah. No strength to argue any bad line call. If really intense maybe he just faint loh. Then ppl will say the linesman fault causing a player to collapse.

Then...this bad line calls isssues.....will be a big one....;)

[robin7]

Btw, luyi80 just came from behind to claim the PAW title after the shock defeat of LD.

[vching]

:D:D please respect the muslim forumer ......ok :p

oops... If I've offended anyone, very sorry :o:o:o
but I wasn't just pulling facts out from the air!



In fact, pigs are some of the cleanest animals around, refusing to excrete anywhere near their living or eating areas when given a choice.

from: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/pigs/smart.html



Human mothers may be mystified to realize that pigs are one of the cleanest animals on earth; despite the fact mothers have compared their child's messy bedrooms to a pigpen for generations.
Pigs defecate in the same place, far from their social and sleep areas, but have no natural cooling systems, so are forced to roll in mud for sun protection during summer months.
"They don't like being dirty if they don't have to." explained Woods.

from: http://www.pigspeace.org/articles/dressingup.html

I don't think this is offensive to Muslim forumers.... We are all matured,smart people that can discuss things in the open. Anyone offended?

[Louisa]

now LYB can have a taste of his own medicine :mad::mad::mad:
but i tot we want to see gentlemen game???? no matter where, Asia, Europe, we want only fair play....if this happen in Malaysia, i donno what to say....THIS IS NOT FAIR, NOT ONLY TO LD, BUT, LHI:mad::mad::mad:

[extremenanopowe]

go luluk.... you remind me of lok lok...

[Jessica]

I am cheering for the Indonesia pair..Louisa and jason,are you all with me???

[Louisa]

oops... If I've offended anyone, very sorry :o:o:o
but I wasn't just pulling facts out from the air!



from: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/pigs/smart.html


from: http://www.pigspeace.org/articles/dressingup.html

I don't think this is offensive to Muslim forumers.... We are all matured,smart people that can discuss things in the open. Anyone offended?
yes, victor, we understand that....let us focus on the game now...

[kwun]

this thread is for the Korean Open 2008 Finals. if you want to talk about the Australia TENNIS Open, go to its own thread:

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51425Me too..Sorry..I won't do it again..:p:o

no problem and thanks all for cooperating. it will save me a lot of work deleting and/or moving posts.

[robin7]

CHN is vulnerable now. C'mon Lukvent finish Fu/Cai.

[Louisa]

I am cheering for the Indonesia pair..Louisa and jason,are you all with me???
yes, of coz.....i m rooting for the INA pair......:D

[vching]

yes, victor, we understand that....let us focus on the game now...

the cat-woman puts me back on the right track :D:p;):rolleyes::)

[morphy]

thankfully wd over in 2

[extremenanopowe]

it a sad case. It happened in Msia as well. Everywhere. May the best men/women wins...:D


but i tot we want to see gentlemen game???? no matter where, Asia, Europe, we want only fair play....if this happen in Malaysia, i donno what to say....THIS IS NOT FAIR, NOT ONLY TO LD, BUT, LHI:mad::mad::mad:

[jasonmarc]

I am cheering for the Indonesia pair..Louisa and jason,are you all with me???

May the best wins.....both INA and CHN havent won anythings yet....for today's final....:rolleyes:

[Louisa]

Btw, luyi80 just came from behind to claim the PAW title after the shock defeat of LD.
:eek:, the winning style is just like LHI....came from behind...............congrats luyi80...2nd title lo.....

[Jessica]

but i tot we want to see gentlemen game???? no matter where, Asia, Europe, we want only fair play....if this happen in Malaysia, i donno what to say....THIS IS NOT FAIR, NOT ONLY TO LD, BUT, LHI:mad::mad::mad:
At least LHI show us his gentleman side by not making any reaction maybe he knew also the linesman trick.For Lin Dan,he has the right to be angry because this is totally unfair but his reaction just a little overboard.Maybe is because he is a soldier before.Anyway,i am glad that he did not hit the umpire using the racket.Or else,i don't know what will happen.:rolleyes:

[Louisa]

May the best wins.....both INA and CHN havent won anythings yet....for today's final....:rolleyes:
gotla, the WD just finished....u forgot liao?:D

[jasonmarc]

gotla, the WD just finished....u forgot liao?:D

Sorry,...since no body cares the Chn Vs chn things here....i totally forgot..they accually won WD title......:D:D:D.........Miao...miao.....

[Louisa]

At least LHI show us his gentleman side by not making any reaction maybe he knew also the linesman trick.For Lin Dan,he has the right to be angry because this is totally unfair but his reaction just a little overboard.Maybe is because he is a soldier before.Anyway,i am glad that he did not hit the umpire using the racket.Or else,i don't know what will happen.:rolleyes:
r u sure????Soldier is very discipline one bo.....anyway, understood how he feel, just shouldn't got involved...who knows, Li Mao did it on purpose, to make him more angry???? Oklah, i think we have express our opinion on this issue, lets focus on the MD now...

[Hubert]

I hope so....:D:p:p
let enjoy to watch MD final....hik..hik

and indeed, MD about to start now... if FHF/CY won't win, maybe CY will quit and will be back here in Suzhou... and I can possibly watch him play.. or even play with him... hahaha... im dreaming...

[jasonmarc]

About to start MD...sure no bad line calls one.......a clean one....as clean as a cat......

[badMania]

and indeed, MD about to start now... if FHF/CY won't win, maybe CY will quit and will be back here in Suzhou... and I can possibly watch him play.. or even play with him... hahaha... im dreaming...

Please...Cai Yun won't quit the game, not before the Olympics ends :eek:

[robin7]

r u sure????Soldier is very discipline one bo.....anyway, understood how he feel, just shouldn't got involved...who knows, Li Mao did it on purpose, to make him more angry???? Oklah, i think we have express our opinion on this issue, lets focus on the MD now...
LCW was the victim of China Open last year and LD was the victim here.:crying::crying:

[Erwin Kyoto]

if i am not mistaken...Luluk/Alvent is the winner of Korea Open 2004
hope they can do it again in 2008...

[jasonmarc]

4 - 0 t C/F.....fast and furious start ...

[abedeng]

CHN maintain top speed, 6-0

[abedeng]

Luluk push stuck at the net.

INA combination very loose.

[jasonmarc]

8 -1 now.......common INA.....played well yesterday...

[abedeng]

INA execution is very bad, I hope they can mend their discipline.

[robin7]

Wow, CHN leads 11-1... 12-2...

[jasonmarc]

C/F 11 - 1 INA .......can anyone who watching live .... post some happenings on court..

[abedeng]

CY lightning reflexes, and big hit by FHF.

[morphy]

alot of mistakes by INA

[robin7]

Where are all the INA fans?

[badMania]

Sigh...quite unbearable to watch as the Chinese duo really serve well today. The INA pair basically has no answer to their service from the very start.

[vching]

Indonesians outpaced...

[micow]

wew..
what happens with luluk-alvent
-_-'

[abedeng]

Service error as well, CHN never had this so easy.

[robin7]

CHN pair is looking more aggresive at this moment. Serve is shot by INA again.

[eaglehelang]

What happened Luluk/Alvent?? so far behind

[jasonmarc]

Chn pair is well known with their speed....and hard smashes...

[robin7]

INA duo look unsettled as they trail 6-18.

[abedeng]

Nothing is working well. Even INA backcourt is not properly covered.

[luyi80]

Today is my lucky day, my favourites all win! And now, I support INA to take this, eventhough they r now 7-19 down!

[jimbo]

Luluk looks a bit pale.... :eek:

[jasonmarc]

Hau-ge should be here to support INA pair......still havent finished his Tim-Sum.....?

[robin7]

CHN took the 1st game 21-7 in just 9 mins. INA pair has to buck up.

[badMania]

Too easy for the Chinese pair...as they take the first set 21-7. A total disaster for Luluk/Alvent. Can they reedem themselves in the second set?

[luyi80]

WAKE UP........Luluk/Alvent........at least give them a good fight!!!

[abedeng]

People are getting bored and one is caught yawning on TV.

[eaglehelang]

Luluk looks a bit pale.... :eek:
Luluk/ALvent like used up all their energy yesterday to fight Lars/Jonas
Today, out of sorts

[vching]

do you prefer the New Scoring System or the Old Scoring System in doubles?

[jasonmarc]

INA leading 2 - 0 now....

[Erwin Kyoto]

cmon Luluk/ALvent...pls play more aggresive in game 2

[morphy]

wow lot of delay in TV, just started 2nd set

[eaglehelang]

1st set was no sweat fro Fu/Cai, Luluk/Alvent like give up the game

[abedeng]

Alvent error at the net, 2-2

[jasonmarc]

If Cy/Fhf win KO title....they might over take MK/HS as WR 01, right..?

[abedeng]

FHF caught out. Shuttle flew wide.

INA serve easily attacked.

[abedeng]

Alvent good anticipation at the net, but Luluk clear flies out.

[robin7]

The INA duo are communicating. Good sign.

[abedeng]

Loose serve don't help INA cause.

[robin7]

Fu/Cai 11-7 ahead. Can the INA fight back?

[luyi80]

Aduh...comon Luluk/Alvent, u can do it!

[jasonmarc]

The INA duo are communicating. Good sign.


Are u sure they are communicating...not arguing....:D:D.....they are still behine 4 points...

[badMania]

Better than the first set, but, its still not enough to match Fu/Cai in terms of speed and service.

[gary_seeker]

this match is done for Cai- Fu no hopelah for Indo. As we says Luluk and Alvent play so "jorokkkkkkkk" today. I hope I'm wrong, well they're arguing not communicating, sort of telling other how to play in my opinion

[jimbo]

:eek:INA pair is wayyyyy tooooo slowwwwww :eek:

[robin7]

12-all.........

14-12 for INA....

[jasonmarc]

INA is in the leads now...14 - 12

[robin7]

14-all.....

Jorok (ugly)?

[robin7]

15-all..........

[Jessica]

Come on Ina...Force it to rubber..

[gary_seeker]

jorok is a term when you make a lot of mistake. Thanks God they're communicating right now and at least I can heard out2x screams :P. Hope they can keep it up

[extremenanopowe]

Luluk... you better win. Else I lok lok u.... hehe..

[robin7]

17-16. INA ahead....

[micow]

cmon INA.. 3 points more for the rubber set!!