Korea Open 2008 - Day 6 - Jan 27 - FINALS!

[robin7]

Unbelievable point won by CHN. 18-all.

[abedeng]

CHN dig out of trouble.

INA get lucky, 19-18

[robin7]

19-18 for INA....

[robin7]

Game pt 20-18 for INA

[abedeng]

CY pushed at the back, INA gain 2 gamepts.

[robin7]

Duece 20-all.....

[abedeng]

Big drive from CY, deuce

[Jessica]

Come on Indonesia..Where is badmania???

[jasonmarc]

could this match be the same as MS...Chn won 1st game very easily....then lost the 2nd......and the 3rd...?

[robin7]

3rd game pt 21-20 for INA

[eaglehelang]

Come on Indonesia..Where is badmania???

Glued to his TV set

[luyi80]

Marvellous come back, 22-20 to Luluk/Alvent!!!

[Jessica]

Oh yes...Rubber game...Come on Indonesia,you can do it..

[abedeng]

Hasty FHF smash gives INA the game, 22-20.

The yawning person would have woken up by now.

[eaglehelang]

Luluk/Alvent force a rubber, online webcast still going on

[robin7]

Rubber..........

[Erwin Kyoto]

god job LuVent...take the 3rd game too....

[Jessica]

Wow...Four out of five of the final matches go to rubber game..

[luyi80]

Yes yes yes...rubber now, hope tat Luluk/Alvent keep their momentum up, grill CY/FHF....Mua hahaha...

[Erwin Kyoto]

oh no CCTV will show news now

[abedeng]

Luluk gets sharper at the net.

[micow]

go luvent go...
cmon idnonesia!!

[eaglehelang]

oh no CCTV will show news now

Yup, no more live. Dont know why in 2008, they dont carry on live even though China players playing

[abedeng]

Shuttle flew to Luluk's head, then a push long, 2-2

[jasonmarc]

If Luluk/Alvent wins this....wow INA is really dominating MD in first two SS.....cool

[luyi80]

Luluk/Alvent...Luluk/Alvent...Luluk/Alvent...3-2 in favour of INA

[extremenanopowe]

I told luluk already about the lok lok, that's why he wins... hehe..

[badMania]

Phew...a near heart-attack as Luluk/Alvent steal the second set 22-20. Can they now go on and achieve the impossible? Very very tight at the moment...

[Jessica]

If Luluk/Alvent wins this....wow INA is really dominating MD in first two SS.....cool
Cool..Cool..Btw,where the cat gone???:D:D:D

[Erwin Kyoto]

Yup, no more live. Dont know why in 2008, they dont carry on live even though China players playing

sigh...just can focus on livescore...:(:crying:

[abedeng]

INA rotate too late, FHF mishits.

[jasonmarc]

Yup, no more live. Dont know why in 2008, they dont carry on live even though China players playing

No more live...:eek:....then more peoples will come back to forum...:p

[robin7]

5-all.............

[Jessica]

Phew...a near heart-attack as Luluk/Alvent steal the second set 22-20. Can they now go on and achieve the impossible? Very very tight at the moment...
badMania,you must thank me..I help you to support them when you are not around...Just kidding..:D:D:D

[badMania]

Well, a rubber-set is already a good achievement considering they were trailing 7-11 just now.

[robin7]

I'm switching between 2 channels now... 811 & 813...

[abedeng]

Good CHN placement forces Luluk down, 7-5

[jasonmarc]

C/F moved ahaed....7 - 5

[abedeng]

CHN caught napping.

[badMania]

Either the Chinese pair wins this set convincingly, or it will be a tight affair like the second set.

[abedeng]

CHN wins defensive pts.

[kwun]

anybody notice a similarity between LD vs. LHI and CY/FHF vs. Luluk/Alven so far?

Chinese wins first game in <10 points landslide. and then loses 2nd game in deuce... and then 3rd game.... :eek:

[luyi80]

Cool..Cool..Btw,where the cat gone???:D:D:D
Mayb the cat goes to take bath, coz she said cat is the cleanest animal in the world...:D:D:D
Nvm...I'm from cat city as well, can take over Cat's duty, hahaha...

[abedeng]

INA makes mistakes in attack, CHN survive, 10-6

[robin7]

Chn 11-7..........

[luyi80]

Comon, Luluk/Alvent....................

[badMania]

Fu/Cai on a roll with 3 straight pts, before the INA pair got 1 back. It ends 11-7 to the Chinese favor again as they go into interval. Now, the last phase of the game....can the INA pair repeat the same trick as in the second set?

My feeling is China will take this one, unless the INA pair can force it back to level.

[luyi80]

Luluk/Alvent...Lulul/Alvent...Luluk/Alvent...

[Erwin Kyoto]

cmon LuVent..dont give up pls...fight hard..

[abedeng]

Great INA defense, 9-12

[robin7]

CHN has the upper hand at this moment...

[gary_seeker]

well, one thing for sure Luluk Alvent can changes so fast. One time they can get pumped and motivated then continue attacking. Then after there's a mistake, one of them can somehow not able to cover their partner perfectly. Only God knows the result :P

[jasonmarc]

Mayb the cat goes to take bath, coz she said cat is the cleanest animal in the world...:D:D:D
Nvm...I'm from cat city as well, can take over Cat's duty, hahaha...

U are cat-man or cat-girl.....we want Cat-women....:p:p

[abedeng]

Excellent Alvent smash!!

[abedeng]

CY very sharp at the net.

[robin7]

CHN on fire 16-11.....

[abedeng]

CHN punishes loose returns.

[jasonmarc]

C/F 16 - 11 up.......any hope for INA?

[luyi80]

~Sigh~ I hate to c CY/FHF shout again...comon INA, FIGHT!!!

[badMania]

It looks over now as the Chinese pair has a 5 pts lead at 16-11.

[robin7]

Chn 17-12.........

[badMania]

CY very sharp at the net.

That's the problem. If only either Luluk or Alvent can be as sharp as Hendra at the net.

[luyi80]

U are cat-man or cat-girl.....we want Cat-women....:p:p
Hahaha...I'm kitten...:p

[robin7]

CHN is on the verge of winning the match 18-12.

[badMania]

Errors have started to crept in again as well. 3 more pts for the Chinese pair. It will take a miracle for the INA pair to win this one here.

[luyi80]

Aiya...looks like is over to INA...

[abedeng]

Big hits by CHN, then a shuttle out give INA a lifeline, 13-18

[jasonmarc]

Hahaha...I'm kitten...:p

What a kitten......can win PAW game....solute You!:D

[tommy_bun]

Fu/Cai here I come to cheer for you

[badMania]

A 6 pts deficit becomes 3 now....15-18. Still a mountain to climb though....

[robin7]

Chn 19-15...........

[robin7]

What a miss by FHY 19-16.

Match pt for CHN 20-16.

[jasonmarc]

19 - 16 to Chn......

[abedeng]

FHF commits a lot of smashing errors. Just like last week.

But CHN gain 4 matchpts.

[extremenanopowe]

luluk got lok lok look la. Tired fellow.

[eaglehelang]

It looks over now as the Chinese pair has a 5 pts lead at 16-11.

Depends on their mental strength. CTF/LWW & Zakry/Fairuz came back from 14-17, levelled & won over Fu/Cai.

[robin7]

Looks like INA is going home empty-handed.

Yes. CHN won it.

[jasonmarc]

Chn won......21-17

[luyi80]

:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying: INA lost eventually!!!!

[extremenanopowe]

I prefer the chilli padi... where are they?

[jasonmarc]

Weird....this match no line calls problems.....huh!

[abedeng]

FHF/CY escape, 21-17. CHN gets 2 titles, still not quite good enough by their standards, but at least the doubles team did not disappoint.

[badMania]

It's all over as Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun collect another Super Series title by beating Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto in rubber-sets. It was a case of so near yet so far again for Luluk/Alvent. But, they have fought bravely today, esp in the second set, when the odds were against them. Fu/Cai are just better than them, from the 22 smashes vs 10 smashes by the INA pair.

So, INA returns home with 0 titles :o

[luyi80]

What a kitten......can win PAW game....solute You!:D
LUCK...I was shocked to win this one! :eek:

[abedeng]

Luluk/Alvent discuss their loss, that's good for their future. They can take heart from this performance, maybe a bit of polish in serving.

[Erwin Kyoto]

Looks like INA is going home empty-handed.

Yes. CHN won it.

at least INA has 2 contestants in Final Match...:D:D:D

congret for all winners...thxs for Flavi and LuVent

[kwun]

some pride was saved when the Chinese MD pair of Cai Yun / Fu Haifeng beat Luluk Hadiyanto / Alvent Yulianto Chandra 21-7 / 20-22 / 21-17. it would've been mighty embarrassing if the Chinese team fly back home with only one Gold medal from WD. at least now they will go back with 2 golds and 3 silvers.

[abedeng]

In both MD Super Series finals, it is ironic that the losing team had problems with their serves.

Shows how critical the serve is compared to other disciplines.

[robin7]

My predictions:
Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa vs Lee Yong Dae/Lee Hyo Jung - I still think the Koreans can take this one if LHJ can minimise her errors in front of the net like what she did during the 2nd half of the decider today.
I'm right!
Lu Lan vs Zhou Mi - Lu Lan has been shaky and inconsistent. Zhou Mi has the experience and desperately needs this title.
I'm right again!
Lin Dan vs Lee Hyun Il - Nobody can stop Lin Dan from defending the title.
...except the linesmen and umpire.
Du Jing/Yu Yang vs Gao Ling/Zhao Tingting - The younger compatriots will prevail again against their seniors.
I'm right again!
Luluk Hadianto/Alvent Yulianto Chandra vs Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun - A very tough match to call. The Indonesans surprised everyone when they tamed Lars/Jonas today. They can claim their maiden SS title if they can reproduce the same effort.
I'm almost right again!

[badMania]

Luluk/Alvent discuss their loss, that's good for their future. They can take heart from this performance, maybe a bit of polish in serving.

They very nearly upsetted Fu/Cai. If only their service and netplay were slightly better....they could have done it :cool:

I think Kido/Hendra would have beaten Fu/Cai today, if they were the opponents instead.

[eaglehelang]

It's all over as Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun collect another Super Series title by beating Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto in rubber-sets. It was a case of so near yet so far again for Luluk/Alvent. But, they have fought bravely today, esp in the second set, when the odds were against them. Fu/Cai are just better than them, from the 22 smashes vs 10 smashes by the INA pair.

So, INA returns home with 0 titles :o

Next time you /Huang meet Luluk/Alvent tell them they can also win if trailing. Got happen before mah with Fu/Cai

[luyi80]

They very nearly upsetted Fu/Cai. If only their service and netplay were slightly better....they could have done it :cool:

I think Kido/Hendra would have beaten Fu/Cai today, if they were the opponents instead.
Agree wf u, Kido/Hendra is a more solid pair

[eaglehelang]

some pride was saved when the Chinese MD pair of Cai Yun / Fu Haifeng beat Luluk Hadiyanto / Alvent Yulianto Chandra 21-7 / 20-22 / 21-17. it would've been mighty embarrassing if the Chinese team fly back home with only one Gold medal from WD. at least now they will go back with 2 golds and 3 silvers.

Yup, more like 2 winner, 3 runner-up. Fu/Cai had to win it.

[jasonmarc]

The next tournament would be the Thomas cup Qualifying round in Veitnam...right see you then...

[badMania]

Next time you /Huang meet Luluk/Alvent tell them they can also win if trailing. Got happen before mah with Fu/Cai

At least they have improved. Who would have expected them to go all the way to the Final and beat Fu/Cai? I surely did not :o

[robin7]

Flandy-Vita v Lee n Lee again!!! Well Korean to win

Luluk-Alven v Cai-Fu....Well we are gonna get grill here

so conclusion no titles for INA:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying ::crying:
U r a prophet!:D:p

[abedeng]

They very nearly upsetted Fu/Cai. If only their service and netplay were slightly better....they could have done it :cool:

I think Kido/Hendra would have beaten Fu/Cai today, if they were the opponents instead.

Not just Kido/Hendra, even Jonas/Lars, CTF/LWW and KKK/TBH pairs would have no problems. FHF wasn't at his best, and CY if he were forced back is not so lethal.

Basically CHN played just as good as their performance last week. It wasn't good enough to go to the MO final.

[terry]

Weird....this match no line calls problems.....huh!

They handle it will care already :p

[extremenanopowe]

Yes, betul... Thats why I have to everytime practice... like gila/crazy..:D
Also forcing my students to do the same... no serve no play...:D


In both MD Super Series finals, it is ironic that the losing team had problems with their serves.

Shows how critical the serve is compared to other disciplines.

[badMania]

Not just Kido/Hendra, even Jonas/Lars, CTF/LWW and KKK/TBH pairs would have no problems. FHF wasn't at his best, and CY if he were forced back is not so lethal.

Basically CHN played just as good as their performance last week. It wasn't good enough to go to the MO final.

There were a couple of instances when Cai Yun simply fumbled when he was forced to the back of the court and Luluk/Alvent gained the pts.

The key is speed. Luluk/Alvent still could not compete with the pace of the Chinese pair. They could not consistently peg the Chinese back and had that attacking initiative :o

Now, Kido/Hendra just need to avoid Koo/Tan before the Final in the All-England and make sure that Fu/Cai and Koo/Tan fight with each other :D

[extremenanopowe]

See you on the next big tournament... let continue with the line call.. heehehe.. I bet it'll come back...

[eaglehelang]

Not just Kido/Hendra, even Jonas/Lars, CTF/LWW and KKK/TBH pairs would have no problems. FHF wasn't at his best, and CY if he were forced back is not so lethal.

Basically CHN played just as good as their performance last week. It wasn't good enough to go to the MO final.

KKK/TBH is provided TBH dont panic. On the other pt me agree - Fu these two SS more smashes into the net, dunno why. Started from hmm HK Open.

Just depends who are their opponents on the day. At MO Lars/Jonas played better than Fu/Cai.

[apontoh]

Alvent/Luluk impressed me today..i must admit i thought they were already finished by the first half of the first game..but they fought back, and hard. missed by a tiny margin...

[badMania]

Alvent/Luluk impressed me today..i must admit i thought they were already finished by the first half of the first game..but they fought back, and hard. missed by a tiny margin...

Yup...good effort by them I have to admit too. Not many teams can win a deuce with Fu/Cai. The Danes failed to even get a game-point yesterday. It was just a tiny margin at the end :rolleyes:

[vching]

dismiss Koo and Tan at your peril! :D :D :D

[Alphonse]

Gosh, it was a good decision for me that I went to watch the Korea Open at Jangchung instead of the TV. What drama at the Lin Dan vs Lee Hyun-il match! On the third set, on the final points, in his disgust, Lin Dan flung his racket towards the coach of Lee. They almost got into a fistfight, with each other's coaches. What drama! And I got it on video!

After that match, my friend and I roamed around the venue and made wrong turn down the stairs and...

I was lucky that I bumped into Lee Young-dae and asked for a photo with him. He was very friendly. After I posed with him, other people followed. He obliged.

I also saw Lin Dan as he was leaving the venue and I stopped him to shake his hand. I wanted to have a photo with him, but I changed my mind. He must be feeling so bad after losing the match. Gosh, on the 1st set, he just toyed around with Lee Hyun-il. He gave me a weak smile as he offered his left hand to shake with my right. I hope he comes back to Korea next year.

I guess it was worth the trip in the freezing winter!

[zqloy]

Gosh, it was a good decision for me that I went to watch the Korea Open at Jangchung instead of the TV. What drama at the Lin Dan vs Lee Hyun-il match! On the third set, on the final points, in his disgust, Lin Dan flung his racket towards the coach of Lee. They almost got into a fistfight, with each other's coaches. What drama! And I got it on video!

After that match, my friend and I roamed around the venue and made wrong turn down the stairs and...

I was lucky that I bumped into Lee Young-dae and asked for a photo with him. He was very friendly. After I posed with him, other people followed. He obliged.

I also saw Lin Dan as he was leaving the venue and I stopped him to shake his hand. I wanted to have a photo with him, but I changed my mind. He must be feeling so bad after losing the match. Gosh, on the 1st set, he just toyed around with Lee Hyun-il. He gave me a weak smile as he offered his left hand to shake with my right. I hope he comes back to Korea next year.

I guess it was worth the trip in the freezing winter!

Could u plz upload the clip in youtube or something? Thanks alot!

[samuel882]

Wow:eek: ! Just back from my trips only to find out I've missed a great MS match :crying:! The score really tense..

[kuai_chai]

wanna know if anyone got the replay for LHI vs LD match?
can share here or not?

[skunklover]

yea...replay or video anyone???

[kwun]

yea...replay or video anyone???


download video here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?azzypk0tdkn

[madbad]

anybody going to write or get petition sign for hawkeye?

Hehehe, perhaps if every BC member can donate $10 to BWF, they will have no more excuses and can afford hawkeye machines. :D:D

[madbad]

I think lcw handle this type of matter better than ld...he is more calm and accept the decision made by the umpire eventhough it is not in favour of him....we can now see how the bad line call can affect the players ..

But he still allows it to affect him mentally. Cool on the outside but raging on the inside.

[madbad]

i thought the PIG was the cleanest animal?

I was about to say that and you are right :)

[madbad]

oops... If I've offended anyone, very sorry :o:o:o
but I wasn't just pulling facts out from the air!



from: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/pigs/smart.html


from: http://www.pigspeace.org/articles/dressingup.html

I don't think this is offensive to Muslim forumers.... We are all matured,smart people that can discuss things in the open. Anyone offended?

I wouldn't worry too much about that Victor. I think most level headed people understand where you're coming from and try not to make a big deal about it. I mean you could say "cow" next and some private interest group will bring up controversy.

[madbad]

Despite LD's over the top reaction to the line call, I saw he very sportingly and sincerely congratulated LHI at the net. The umpire had a tough game to call and for the most part, did very well.

That's 2 years in a row now that the KO has been involved with controversial issues. Next year, no matter how much $$$ this tournament puts up, there could be a severe absence of top players. Then the organizers will see how much damage suspect line judging can affect their tournament.

[Louisa]

Gosh, it was a good decision for me that I went to watch the Korea Open at Jangchung instead of the TV. What drama at the Lin Dan vs Lee Hyun-il match! On the third set, on the final points, in his disgust, Lin Dan flung his racket towards the coach of Lee. They almost got into a fistfight, with each other's coaches. What drama! And I got it on video!

I did not see him flung his racket towards Li Mao...coz the incident happen in a sudden...and all my family members were so tense on the score, then, the drama started, we were all :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:, only saw Li Mao stood up and quarrel with LD, then LD raise his racket, donno who he wanna whack...but luckily stop by officers, dragged n pulled him away...

wanna wait for tonite, c astro got replay or not, then i can really 'study' the incident!!!!

[madbad]

I did not see him flung his racket towards Li Mao...coz the incident happen in a sudden...and all my family members were so tense on the score, then, the drama started, we were all :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:, only saw Li Mao stood up and quarrel with LD, then LD raise his racket, donno who he wanna whack...but luckily stop by officers, dragged n pulled him away...

wanna wait for tonite, c astro got replay or not, then i can really 'study' the incident!!!!

You don't really need to study it very hard, it's clear he threw his racket but whether it was in the direction of Li Mao is unknown.

[Alphonse]

You don't really need to study it very hard, it's clear he threw his racket but whether it was in the direction of Li Mao is unknown.


Lin Dan 'seemed' to have thrown his racket towards the two guys sitting at coaches of Lee Hyun-il. One of those guys is bald. I think he was the target of Lin Dan as that bald guy was also screaming when the brouhaha happened. So, was this bald guy 'Li Mao' also Chinese? That makes sense as Lin Dan was obviously screaming at him and that bald guy was screaming back. If Li Mao was Chinese, it makes sense that they were both verbally squabbling in Chinese.

I was seated way, way up the rafters as I arrived late and most seats down were taken. So, when I saw Lin Dan's racket flying I suddenly realized this was big drama! So, I turned on my camera and videod starting when Lin Dan went to the opponent's area and there were pushing and shoving and screaming! Although I didn't know the history between Lin Dan and that bald guy, I seemed to me that there was bad blood between them.

I also noted another thing: I saw one linesperson, a Korean woman wearing that yellow long sleeve shirt worn by linespersons, clap her hands when Lee Hyun-il won an important point. When she realized that she was not to show her bias by clapping, she suddenly looked around and try to see who saw her clap.

Aren't linespeople supposed to be NEUTRAL? How I wanted to report this to the organizers of the Korea Badminton Open.:mad:

[madbad]

Lin Dan 'seemed' to have thrown his racket towards the two guys sitting at coaches of Lee Hyun-il. One of those guys is bald. I think he was the target of Lin Dan as that bald guy was also screaming when the brouhaha happened. So, was this bald guy 'Li Mao' also Chinese? That makes sense as Lin Dan was obviously screaming at him and that bald guy was screaming back. If Li Mao was Chinese, it makes sense that they were both verbally squabbling in Chinese.

I was seated way, way up the rafters as I arrived late and most seats down were taken. So, when I saw Lin Dan's racket flying I suddenly realized this was big drama! So, I turned on my camera and videod starting when Lin Dan went to the opponent's area and there were pushing and shoving and screaming! Although I didn't know the history between Lin Dan and that bald guy, I seemed to me that there was bad blood between them.

I also noted another thing: I saw one linesperson, a Korean woman wearing that yellow long sleeve shirt worn by linespersons, clap her hands when Lee Hyun-il won an important point. When she realized that she was not to show her bias by clapping, she suddenly looked around and try to see who saw her clap.

Aren't linespeople supposed to be NEUTRAL? How I wanted to report this to the organizers of the Korea Badminton Open.:mad:

Excellent report from another person at the stadium. The clapping linesperson should have been removed immediately but fortunately for her, no one saw it.

[Louisa]

Excellent report from another person at the stadium. The clapping linesperson should have been removed immediately but fortunately for her, no one saw it.
no need report as she clapped after LHI won the match.....very tense game, and we had :D:D:D:D:D:D smiling faces at home when LHI clinched the last point...:p

[Louisa]

Excellent report from another person at the stadium. The clapping linesperson should have been removed immediately but fortunately for her, no one saw it.
opps, my mistake, she clapped when LHI won an important point....should report...

[madbad]

opps, my mistake, she clapped when LHI won an important point....should report...

Haha, cat vision not that good when in front of the computer

[Alphonse]

no need report as she clapped after LHI won the match.....very tense game, and we had :D:D:D:D:D:D smiling faces at home when LHI clinched the last point...:p

She (the linesperson) clapped BEFORE the match was over. I think Lee Hyun-il was 2 points away from the match. This means the lineswoman was CHEERING for Lee Hyun-il DURING the match, which was evidenced by her clapping.

Yes, it was a tense moment, but since I was up there on the rafters, my perspective was wide and I could see what's happening down below, one of them the clapping linesperson.

I sent an email today to the contact person of the Korea Badminton Open. I am not sure if they will respond or not. I will give them 48 hours.

Do you think they will respond?

[X Ball]

She (the linesperson) clapped BEFORE the match was over. I think Lee Hyun-il was 2 points away from the match. This means the lineswoman was CHEERING for Lee Hyun-il DURING the match, which was evidenced by her clapping.

Yes, it was a tense moment, but since I was up there on the rafters, my perspective was wide and I could see what's happening down below, one of them the clapping linesperson.

I sent an email today to the contact person of the Korea Badminton Open. I am not sure if they will respond or not. I will give them 48 hours.

Do you think they will respond?


This is a clear case of 'WHAT GOES ROUND COMES ROUND' for China. Need I say more ?:D Don't be too pertubed by it.

[vching]

She (the linesperson) clapped BEFORE the match was over. I think Lee Hyun-il was 2 points away from the match. This means the lineswoman was CHEERING for Lee Hyun-il DURING the match, which was evidenced by her clapping.

Yes, it was a tense moment, but since I was up there on the rafters, my perspective was wide and I could see what's happening down below, one of them the clapping linesperson.

I sent an email today to the contact person of the Korea Badminton Open. I am not sure if they will respond or not. I will give them 48 hours.

Do you think they will respond?

I think the linesmen should have been replaced. By linesmen I mean both the linesmen in Korea Open 08 and China Open 07.

[OneToughBirdie]

Kind of ironic that it is the controversy of bad line calls, CHN game fixing and now, this LD-LM incidence that generate interest in badminton and not focusing on the great game itself....compared to tennis where Sharapova won which is talked about...missing out are the other events like WD, MD, XD and WS...yes, ZM winning and congrats to her, being the rejects that CHN does not want and she won what seemed like a great match with LL that no one is talking about...can't help but wonder how baddy can be a mainstream sport anytime soon.

[gary_seeker]

quick question, if they re play again the TV screen, isn't it preety good enough to check the lines man call ?

[huangkwokhau]

She (the linesperson) clapped BEFORE the match was over. I think Lee Hyun-il was 2 points away from the match. This means the lineswoman was CHEERING for Lee Hyun-il DURING the match, which was evidenced by her clapping.

Yes, it was a tense moment, but since I was up there on the rafters, my perspective was wide and I could see what's happening down below, one of them the clapping linesperson.

I sent an email today to the contact person of the Korea Badminton Open. I am not sure if they will respond or not. I will give them 48 hours.

Do you think they will respond?
I do not think they will respond.........I did also to BWF regarding Cheng Du's event and took them a long time to come back to me....not in writing but I met them in HKG to talk about it......

[madbad]

She (the linesperson) clapped BEFORE the match was over. I think Lee Hyun-il was 2 points away from the match. This means the lineswoman was CHEERING for Lee Hyun-il DURING the match, which was evidenced by her clapping.

Yes, it was a tense moment, but since I was up there on the rafters, my perspective was wide and I could see what's happening down below, one of them the clapping linesperson.

I sent an email today to the contact person of the Korea Badminton Open. I am not sure if they will respond or not. I will give them 48 hours.

Do you think they will respond?

I'm wondering if writing to the BWF might be better since they sanction the events. You might get a stock answer though. You don't really know how seriously they take observations from individuals, unless they have clout. If Sally Yeh wrote instead...

[skunklover]

yes, im pretty sure you hafta have some clout to be taken seriously....
otherwise, they dont know for sure that you were just someone trying to mess with the scores...unless you have a video

[ctjcad]

[quote=eaglehelang;780242]
I am refering to the one which the the coach and the players start to push each other..This incident goes like this.When LHI hit the shuttle out,the linesman actually call in and Lin Dan of course feel very furious.He shouted and went to complain to the umpire.The umpire then change the score in favour to Lin Dan.We though this is the end but Li Mao suddenly very angry and the fight started.

...Calmness of LHI brought him the victory.
After the disputable line call, Lin Dan was really in a rage, and Li Mao, a Chinese ironically, contributed to it the most, just by his presence....
..i saw the last 9 min. or so of that incident and i would have to say simply, both parties (LiMao and LinDan) behaved very unprofessionally:o...no matter if the line call was a dubious one or not..:(
Btw, Jessica, i thought on that pt, the umpire upheld the call that was made in favor of LHI, not LD..:confused:

As for the MD Final, well, the INA gave it an effort, but i guess they ran into a determined FHF&CY, who were looking for their first SS title this yr...

Gosh, it was a good decision for me that I went to watch the Korea Open at Jangchung instead of the TV....

...I guess it was worth the trip in the freezing winter!
..Alphonse, glad you were able to go and watch the Finals!!..If you have any videos or pics or other stories of the Finals day, please share w/us all!:):cool:

[eaglehelang]

So, was this bald guy 'Li Mao' also Chinese? That makes sense as Lin Dan was obviously screaming at him and that bald guy was screaming back. If Li Mao was Chinese, it makes sense that they were both verbally squabbling in Chinese.

! Although I didn't know the history between Lin Dan and that bald guy, I seemed to me that there was bad blood between them.



Yes Alphonse, the bald guy is Li Mao, he's a China citizen, have been coaching Korea MS since beginning 2007. And yes, most probably they were screaming at each other in Chinese, both pissed off with each other.

[robin7]

I just finished re-watching the MS final towords the end of the decider.
http://bbs.badmintoncn.com/plus_video_view.php?id=292

I noticed that the last 3 points were all due to LD's unforced errors when having the 4th match point at 23-22.

LD's return went long, and hence the 4th duece in the decider at 23-23.
LD's return went into net, it gave LHI's 3rd match point at 23-24.
LD's cross-court smash went into net, it gave LHI the title at 23-25.

[ctjcad]

...one thing i would give props to, and as mentioned by other BCers, was the organizer's decision to use non-Korean umpires in the Finals, esp. in the matches involving KOR players...:cool:

[Alphonse]

[quote=Jessica;780297]

..Alphonse, glad you were able to go and watch the Finals!!..If you have any videos or pics or other stories of the Finals day, please share w/us all!:):cool:

Hey y'all!

This is the video which shows the Lin Dan vs Lee Hyun-il squabble. Sorry, the vid is only 3 minutes and only caught what happened after Lin Dan let his racket fly up the air! Hehehe...It also shows Lin Dan being given the yellow card (not exactly my favorite color. Hehe)

You be the judge. I think this scene was not shown on TV, or was it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ5z1zwfOog

[ctjcad]

..and if i remember correctly, they showed the same thing on TV, or at least, the video that was shared in this forum. However, yours, i believe showed a bit later sequence of the actual incident; you might've missed a few seconds of the initial incident..Your video, at least, showed the location where it happened without the camera switching..Anyway, thanks again for sharing!:cool:

[kwun]

according to a couple of Chinese media who has phoned Li Mao and interviewed him, Li Mao claimed that he shouted at LD at a close distance, "are you going to hit me?" i think that also provoked the very last reaction from LD before he walked back to his side of the court.

[ctjcad]

...this controversy should be something to chat about in the next....month or so....while we wait for the AE...hehe:D:p ;)

[eaglehelang]

...this controversy should be something to chat about in the next....month or so....while we wait for the AE...hehe:D:p ;)

Nahh, just till CNY, after that is Thomas Cup qualifiers in Vietnam (Feb)

[belagabego]

@Alphonse (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/member.php?u=19191)

thanks for the video

any body has more complete video....

thanks

[hcyong]

[quote=ctjcad;781446]

Hey y'all!

This is the video which shows the Lin Dan vs Lee Hyun-il squabble. Sorry, the vid is only 3 minutes and only caught what happened after Lin Dan let his racket fly up the air! Hehehe...It also shows Lin Dan being given the yellow card (not exactly my favorite color. Hehe)

You be the judge. I think this scene was not shown on TV, or was it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ5z1zwfOog

Lin Dan almost won it at match point with a great drop, but Lee Hyun Il miraculously retrieved the shot and got it clear out of danger, too.

[Alphonse]

according to a couple of Chinese media who has phoned Li Mao and interviewed him, Li Mao claimed that he shouted at LD at a close distance, "are you going to hit me?" i think that also provoked the very last reaction from LD before he walked back to his side of the court.

Does that mean Li Mao tried to provoke Lin Dan first? If that's true, then maybe Li Mao was trying to ruin Lin Dan's mental fortitude and eventually his game.:confused::confused:

If it did, only Lin Dan can tell us.

After the match and the awarding ceremonies for the men's singles, I saw Lin Dan at the players' area, sitting on a bench with his coaches, and putting back on his track suit. Being a badminton fan, I wanted to ask him for a photo, but I decided against it as I think it was not a good time. I was scared he would vent his anger at me and smash me with his racket! :crying:hahaha!

He was chatting with his coaches, where they were giving serious glances to the people around them, including me. It wasn't a friendly atmosphere around them. So, I think not asking him for an autograph or a favor to have a photo taken with him was a good idea after all. So, my friend and I stayed away from where they were and stood on the main entrance of where the players pass.

Then a few moments later, Lee Young-dae passed by and I just stopped him to congratulate him and ask him to have a photo taken with him. He was friendly and nice. After me, other people followed. While this was happening, I saw that Lin Dan and his coaches were leaving the area. As they were near the main door, I stood in his way and blurted, 'Lin Dan, I'm sorry blah-blah-blah." I extended my right hand, expecting him to extend his left, but his bag was on his right shoulder, so he extended his left hand to shake. He gave me a weak smile. It was like he was forcing to smile just to be polite.:)
Though I was glad I was able to shake the hand of the World's No. 1 men's badminton player, I was even more surprised that his hand, his left playing hand, was very soft. I should have asked him what he does with his hands to keep them soft! :) Hahaha!

Oh well...another day at the badminton court.

Tomorrow's another day.