Yonex ArcSaber 10 Review

[Tsumaranai]

How does it compare to the Ti-10 in durability and attacking power?

[arnold16890]

it looks kinda ugly

[ants]

How does it compare to the Ti-10 in durability and attacking power?

Cannot compare with Ti-10... Arc 10 is in a league of its own. Probably more of the flex and torque. Attacking power is better than ti-10.

[ants]

Most of you will see the full glory of Arcsaber 10 Debut in the All England this year.

[david07]

Cannot compare with Ti-10... Arc 10 is in a league of its own. Probably more of the flex and torque. Attacking power is better than ti-10.
Would this be the new or old Ti-10 your talking about Ants?

[ants]

Would this be the new or old Ti-10 your talking about Ants?

The 2nd version of ti-10. The new Ti-10 is better than the 2nd version.

[phandrew]

How does Arc10 power compare to NS9000X and AT900P power?

[ants]

Like what i've mentioned last year in my ArcSaber 7 review that there is more to come in 2008. This Arcsaber 10 would be one of the best racket to use.

[jhirata]

Like what i've mentioned last year in my ArcSaber 7 review that there is more to come in 2008. This Arcsaber 10 would be one of the best racket to use.
Wow.. I wonder who will start using this racquet. Peter Gade and Zhang Ning already switched from their AT700. Is there a possibility that Lin Dan will switch to the Arc10 too ?

[ants]

Haha, Yonex designers seems to have gotten inspired by the SOTX woven 9... Maybe the ARC10 is a just a W9A clone :D :D

btw, I will get it 10/3... I was so pissed with the Yonex rep, that I get it later than Ants and Gade :).. But he told me I will get it earlier, once i beat Gade consistently :D :D

Don't be pissed with your Yonex Rep. Probably you got it late due to location. Its far from Japan to your area.

[twobeer]

Don't be pissed with your Yonex Rep. Probably you got it late due to location. Its far from Japan to your area.

haha, I am not to pissed, it was more of a joke ;D .. But I guess the distance to Denmark is not THAT much less then Sweden from Japan :p :) .. so i don't think the distance (with todays air-delivery) is a major issue :D

BTW i noted Your review was 3U, have you had a chance to test the 2U, Ants?

/Twobeer

[F-Man]

Me too. Struggling to choose between 2U and 3U. Currently using 2nd generation Ti-10 2U 29x31lbs, BG65ti.

Ants, are you hinting that it is similar to the ti swing power of old? I would be inclined to go for the 3U unless the 2U offers considerably more power. Manoevarability and control is more important for me. What do you think?

[phandrew]

Ants how would you rate the Arc10 power compare to NS9000X and AT900P power?

[Burger_King]

Yay i just preorder one.

[kaizen]

Ants....Do u know if Yonex would be producing the ArcS 10 in the Black edition?.....or was it just for demo?

[phandrew]

Here is more info on the Arc10 in English - http://www.yonex.com/badminton/racquets/arcsaber.html

[KazeCloud]

The 2nd version of ti-10. The new Ti-10 is better than the 2nd version.

What do you mean by 2nd generation of Ti-10 and the new Ti-10? 2nd generation meaning the long one and new meaning the yellow? Or do I have it wrong.

[Ar Dan]

What do you mean by 2nd generation of Ti-10 and the new Ti-10? 2nd generation meaning the long one and new meaning the yellow? Or do I have it wrong.

Maybe Ants is referring to the Ti-10 (purple) 3rd gen?

[KazeCloud]

Yes which ones are you exactly referring it to? ^_^?

The old Ti-10 perked up its ear when you said those bold statements.

Mostly I really need to know because I'm going to buy at $300+ Ti-10 2u pretty soon. X_X.

[kaizen]

Ohh....the site shows only red.....which means only red is for general public....any idea how one might be able to get the Black edition??

[Ar Dan]

Ohh....the site shows only red.....which means only red is for general public....any idea how one might be able to get the Black edition??

It is quite easy, buy some 800 and 1200 grid sandpaper + 1 can of flat black model paint. :D

[kaizen]

Yes which ones are you exactly referring it to? ^_^?

The old Ti-10 perked up its ear when you said those bold statements.

Mostly I really need to know because I'm going to buy at $300+ Ti-10 2u pretty soon. X_X.


2nd generation refers to post 2001 production for old version of Ti-10. If i didn't get it wrong, the 2nd generation of old Ti-10 is less head heavy than the 1st generation.

New Ti-10 refers to the new colour schemed Ti-10 which is headlight.
I tink ants meant that. Not sure though..need his confirmation....

[kaizen]

It is quite easy, buy some 800 and 1200 grid sandpaper + 1 can of flat black model paint. :D

Lol...i mite as well buy the 3-for-$10 type of racquet....

[sifuyono]

Ohh....the site shows only red.....which means only red is for general public....any idea how one might be able to get the Black edition??
painted black yourself:D:D

[Ar Dan]

Lol...i mite as well buy the 3-for-$10 type of racquet....

True... but it won't play the same way :cool:

[kaizen]

painted black yourself:D:D


True... but it won't play the same way :cool:

Whatever methods i try, it won't play as the ArcS 10 either.:)

[KazeCloud]

2nd generation refers to post 2001 production for old version of Ti-10. If i didn't get it wrong, the 2nd generation of old Ti-10 is less head heavy than the 1st generation.

New Ti-10 refers to the new colour schemed Ti-10 which is headlight.
I tink ants meant that. Not sure though..need his confirmation....

I don't think thats what he means. Since I don't think he would believe the headlight version of the Ti-10 is better than the head heavy one. :eek:

[kaizen]

hmm....then we will just wait for ants to clarify your doubt...

[jhirata]

I wonder.. when will the Apacs clone of the ArcSaber10 be released ? :D
I think it's going to be called EdgeSaber10.. like the old EdgeSaber7.

[Master Yoda]

Yonex Arcsaber 10 Review

Review Date : November 07
Racket Type : Yonex ArcSaber 10
Specs : 3UG4
Strings: Yonex Nanogy98 ( Supplied )
Tension: 30lbs , 1 Piece Stringing
Stringing Machine : Yonex ESPRO
Grip: Original Grip
Technology : CS Carbon Nanotube,Newly built in T-joint,Super HMG (High Modulus Graphite), Ultra PEF (Polyethylene Fibers)
Shuttle Used: Yonex Official and Yonex Tournament

First Impression:
The technology behind this racket is definitely a much improved version of the ArcSaber7. I would say Arcsaber 10 is on a class of its own. However the color itself is not as striking. It’s a disappointment for me as I would expect this racket will cause fear to the opponents by just a look at it. But then still water run’s deep. It may look tame but the Arcsaber10 is definitely a dangerous weapon for those who use it. And at the same time people might get used to the racket color as time goes by. This is also proven when the Nanospeed9000 color way came out, it look funny and weird but after a while many love this racket just by the looks itself. So I guess it will be the same for the Arcsaber 10. If i were to give a nickname to this racket i would call it Black Magic. The name enough might strike fear to your opponent.

Stringing Impression:
Based on the facts and technology that I have about this racket. I have no fear in stringing this racket at high tension. But since my usual tension is at 30lbs, I find that it’s a no sweat stringing this piece of racket. If it’s a 2U it would be much easier. Racket head and frame had slight movement when pulled but I guess its common for all rackets but I would say that Its even more stable than stringing a Armortec 700. With a good support of the World best stringing Machine ESPRO make the job easier.


Warm Ups:
I like the weight of this piece of technology. The racket does feel stiffer than the Arcsaber 7. It does not vibrate as much. And the shuttle does looks that it bounce back faster once it touches the string bed during hitting. Controlling the shuttle on the net is much better and if those who are used to head heavy racket will not have any problem adapting to Arcsaber 10 in terms of net play. As for flat drives I may need to exert more wrist do have the best results. Slow smashes feel good and I didn’t really exert much effort. Shuttle placements feel easy using this racket.


Game Time:

The speed of the shuttle released from this racket is fairly noticeable compare with the other rackets I used. Smash seems faster and in competitive playing speed does matter. Although I’m not really a front guy, using this racket does attract me in playing in the front. Shots deceptions are slightly easier when I’m receiving my opponent’s serve. I am satisfy in the smashing power ability produced by Arcsaber 10 , but I do wish there were more Ommph in it. Maneuverability wise I found it is easier for me to change my gripping method from offense to defense and vise versa. Even flat push and drives was good, just that I have to push my wrist and thumb more to produce a little more power to counter my opponents flat drives. In terms or retrieving smashes, this racket does not disappoint me although I have to put more effort on it because at the same time it does allow me to control the shuttle while defending from smashes. I can feel the shaft bend to create the torque when defend and during smashes which are a good thing in badminton because it allows more power generated from the racket to the shuttle. If I were Fu Hai Feng, I might create another smash speed record with this racket.

Conclusion:

Arcsaber 10 is a racket that will appeal to vast range of players from amateurs and professionals alike. Many will appreciate its usability and adaptability. It has the all around performance from speed, power and control. If you are looking for more Power from this racket, I would suggest you to get a 2U version instead. Arcsaber 10 offers enough improvement over Arcsaber 7 to make an upgrade or racket switch justifiable. If you are looking for an upgrade, you might want to consider Arcbsaber 10. However the only factor that hinders someone in getting the racket is the PRICE. With the technology and materials used in making this Arcsaber 10 the results produced does satisfy my curiosity and I have no regret using this racket as one of my main racket… of course until a better one comes along.

I would rate this racket in terms of Feel, Control, Power and Defense. However it is based on my own test and review. It may vary depending on the player, tension and what string you use.

Feel: 9.5/10
Control: 9.5/10
Power: 9/10
Defense: 8.5/10
Maneuverability: 8.5/10


Pros : All around racket, Good control.
Cons: Lack of Defense, Price and looks

Suitability : Intermediate/Advance. Singles/Doubles racket

Ants


Does this new racket actually have the "Power Armor System"? Some sites mention it but the official ones don't say it on the pictures,

[YinLoung]

I'm getting my Arc10 next week !! Wahahahhaha. Will give my own taste as soon as I test it enough. =p

[jhirata]

You can pre-order the ArcSaber10 JP at shuttle-house.. for 25200 yen, which is around the same price for MP90 and AT900P/T. http://shuttle-house.com/new-cgi/page2.php?mk=YO&hid=ARC10

[cooler]

I'm getting my Arc10 next week !! Wahahahhaha. Will give my own taste as soon as I test it enough. =p
dont forget to spread some hot chilli before using:p

[Master Yoda]

Does the arcsaber 10 have the power armor system? Or Not?

http://www.mybadmintonstore.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=455

The one above says it does

http://www.yonex.com/badminton/racquets/arcsaber.html

This one(official) above doesn't say it does

[ants]

Does this new racket actually have the "Power Armor System"? Some sites mention it but the official ones don't say it on the pictures,

Just follow the Yonex Website. :)

[jhirata]

Woah! Seiko-Sports is allowing people to pre-order the arc10 for only 19000yen.. i think that's about 168USD or so.
http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/seiko-spo/arc10.html

[silentheart]

Woah! Seiko-Sports is allowing people to pre-order the arc10 for only 19000yen.. i think that's about 168USD or so.
http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/seiko-spo/arc10.html
Can you tell me where you got the exchange rate? According to the current market rate, it is $178 USD. Also credit card company charge you between 1~3% process fee for exchanging currency. On top of that, what is the s/h cost? One last thing, does Seiko ship oversea? It is $180 just on the racquet cost alone. Also, US and CAN office has the racquet in the warehouse and ready to ship to the dealers. Local office is just waiting for 3/1 AE before shipping out. You will have to wait for 1 or 2 weeks before you get it if you buy from Seiko (ShuttleHouse might be faster). Yonex is really tight on shipping date this time for some reason. So pre-order where you can. Also, you will get one if you pre order. I am expecting some shortage for the initial month.

Good luck

[jhirata]

Can you tell me where you got the exchange rate? According to the current market rate, it is $178 USD. Also credit card company charge you between 1~3% process fee for exchanging currency. On top of that, what is the s/h cost? One last thing, does Seiko ship oversea? It is $180 just on the racquet cost alone. Also, US and CAN office has the racquet in the warehouse and ready to ship to the dealers. Local office is just waiting for 3/1 AE before shipping out. You will have to wait for 1 or 2 weeks before you get it if you buy from Seiko (ShuttleHouse might be faster). Yonex is really tight on shipping date this time for some reason. So pre-order where you can. Also, you will get one if you pre order. I am expecting some shortage for the initial month.

Good luck

I see your point sir.
The last time I checked the currency exchange rate, it was 113yen/1USD. I know it's different every now and then. I checked just now, and I figured out that they dont ship overseas according to their site :crying:.

[cooler]

I see your point sir.
The last time I checked the currency exchange rate, it was 113yen/1USD. I know it's different every now and then. I checked just now, and I figured out that they dont ship overseas according to their site :crying:.u will never get the exchange rate u see on the net, those are for billion $ transactions. Paypal and credit cards companies will make their cuts.

[Matt]

Heheheh, I saw Seiko-Sports site like last week ^.^

[Tsumaranai]

So what's the update on the most inexpensive pre-order?

[jhirata]

So what's the update on the most inexpensive pre-order?
still searchin'. :rolleyes:

[KazeCloud]

Don't forget my question. =P

I know you have a hard time doing all of this. But we really appreciate it Ants! Thank you!

[Moggy]

Does anyone know if there are any other Arc Sabre's planned at the moment? Or will Arc10 be the top end racquet for the series?

[jhirata]

Does anyone know if there are any other Arc Sabre's planned at the moment? Or will Arc10 be the top end racquet for the series?
As far as I know, there are new shoes, bags, and new nanospeeds.. but not sure about the ArcSabers.

[Master Yoda]

As far as I know, there are new shoes, bags, and new nanospeeds.. but not sure about the ArcSabers.

What new nanospeeds are going to be out?

[Ah_Shum]

What new nanospeeds are going to be out?

ns4500 --> replacement of ns5000
ns500 & ns800 --> lower end nanospeeds..

[Master Yoda]

ns4500 --> replacement of ns5000
ns500 & ns800 --> lower end nanospeeds..

Oh right, I thought a new top end nanospeed was going to be out

[Master Yoda]

That is just a teaser since i'm not allowed to post actual picture.


Are you sure you don't get paid and work for yonex? Why would they give you a free racket. And if you don't work for yonex then why would you worry about not being allowed to post pictures. Is it because you would get fired?

Something fishy going on

I reckon you are a yonex undercover agent who has infiltrated BC with the intension of marketing rackets by making people think you are really knowledgable and have unbiased opinions which they can trust.

Plus this thread started at the end of January and your review date was in November last year.

I'm not fooled.

[z3048018]

that is unfounded. and you know ants personally? your "accusations" have gone too far!
i am like ants but in a different field and if i revealed some details regarding my company's products, i'll get fired. i was a really active user in another forum and the company got a whiff of it. now i participate no more because of the sensitive nature of the information i planned to reveal

[Master Yoda]

that is unfounded. and you know ants personally? your "accusations" have gone too far!
i am like ants but in a different field and if i revealed some details regarding my company's products, i'll get fired. i was a really active user in another forum and the company got a whiff of it. now i participate no more because of the sensitive nature of the information i planned to reveal

You have just completely contradicted yourself in your first and second sentence.

So thanks for that you have just basically agreed with me in saying he works for yonex. I having nothing against ants, he's just taking orders from his boss at yonex. Plus I like the reviews

[UncleFester]

Knock off the conspiracy theories.

[Master Yoda]

Knock off the conspiracy theories.

Its not a conspiracy theory, its a marketing theory.

I have no problem with ants, just don't why people on BC love him so much.

Same goes for a few others members of BC, people just love em so much.

Its like they are celebrities. And everyone loves them. Have more respect for yourself, members of BC.:(

[silentheart]

Are you sure you don't get paid and work for yonex? Why would they give you a free racket. And if you don't work for yonex then why would you worry about not being allowed to post pictures. Is it because you would get fired?

Something fishy going on

I reckon you are a yonex undercover agent who has infiltrated BC with the intension of marketing rackets by making people think you are really knowledgable and have unbiased opinions which they can trust.

Plus this thread started at the end of January and your review date was in November last year.

I'm not fooled.
Here is my answer if I am Ants.
1) No comment.
2) Can't tell you anything.
3) I catagorically deny any rumor and untrue statements out there.
4) I can tell you but I have to kill you.

From my reading of his prior review and post, I feel they are unbiased and very insightful. If Ants gets pay by Yonex to spread the true and unbiased review of racquet, I personally do not feel anything wrong with it. Infact, from ARC7 review, it gives him more credibility because he did say the best (or beast) is yet to come...
No further comment till 3/9.

[twobeer]

Ants have been quite straightforward that he gets "freebies" from Yonex in terms of not released rackets etc. for testing.

Any intelligent forum reader will recognize that it may be hard for Ants to be entirely objective (if we are talking about comparing to other products, brands etc) getting all that "candy" from Yonex, and not having the same "attention" from other vendors prototypes etc. But I have no doubt in my mind that Ants is expressing his sincere views about the rackets tested..

It's not like he is blindly promoting the latest thing (if you've actually read what he has written).

Personally I think BC members gets credability when more members find out that they agree with the reviews or in retrospect think it was an accurate post...

As everything posted on the forum remains (if not taken away by the mods).. History is a good judge, and helps build credability..

Ants has done a good job so far, and regardless of his Yonex connections he has always been balanced and to the best of my knowlede honest in his posts..

If you are accusing people for being undercover or infiltrating BC, I think you should try to back it up with references to quotes from them indicating this, or links, proofs of bias etc. Otherwise it just kills your own credability.

/Twobeer




Are you sure you don't get paid and work for yonex? Why would they give you a free racket. And if you don't work for yonex then why would you worry about not being allowed to post pictures. Is it because you would get fired?

Something fishy going on

I reckon you are a yonex undercover agent who has infiltrated BC with the intension of marketing rackets by making people think you are really knowledgable and have unbiased opinions which they can trust.

Plus this thread started at the end of January and your review date was in November last year.

I'm not fooled.

[Matt]

No offence but Master Yoda seems to like causing issues on the forum.

BTW: I saw that post of yours before the mods stepped in and removed it, considering I was only messing around as a joke.

[Master Yoda]

I agree the reviews do seem unbiased and are insightful, but then its not like yonex really make rubbish top end rackets, do they?

I got the armortec 900T partly based on ants review, and I think I might buy an Arcsaber 10.

But I just can't believe someone who isn't sponsored or works for yonex getting a free racket before it comes out.

Why don't Yonex send me a free racket before its released to the public?

[Master Yoda]

No offence but Master Yoda seems to like causing issues on the forum.

BTW: I saw that post of yours before the mods stepped in and removed it, considering I was only messing around as a joke.

Sorry about the post the mods removed Matt I didn't know you were joking.

As for causing issues, I'm just questioning what people seem to blindly believe.

It isn't rude to question someone credibility.

[Fengwei]

I don't want to make this worse, but can some Mod remove these posts. They are irrelevant to the subject, and only cause issues. Still, I'm all for Ants. He's a great guy and trust him 200%.

[silentheart]

I agree the reviews do seem unbiased and are insightful, but then its not like yonex really make rubbish top end rackets, do they?

I got the armortec 900T partly based on ants review, and I think I might buy an Arcsaber 10.

But I just can't believe someone who isn't sponsored or works for yonex getting a free racket before it comes out.

Why don't Yonex send me a free racket before its released to the public?
I can tell you that I do not work for YY. In fact I work for Allianz Life.
YY need more than feed back from the pros. It need feed back from advance users and beginners (me) a like to see if a racquet sells or not. If inaccurate feed backs are given and the product tanked, that group of testers will get a bad mark. If a tester gets too many bad mark, he/she will have less chance to test out top end product. At the end, they will remove the bad tester. It is just market research. A prototype product is send out long before production. A tester will get a racquet to try with min paint or marking. Several versions and specs of the same racquet is send out to testers. Testers will write a review when the test is done. The review is usually done a few months before the product goes into production with final paint scheme after the stupid marketing dept decided the color, model # and etc. So what is wrong for Ants just post his report that is done and send to YY few month ago and finally post it now. In fact that is why his review is creditable because it is the report YY gets.
I can not tell you why I know the system. I can not tell you my relationship with YY either. I can tell you I am not sleeping with anyone in works for the evil empire.

[Geoffrey]

Its not a conspiracy theory, its a marketing theory.

I have no problem with ants, just don't why people on BC love him so much.

Same goes for a few others members of BC, people just love em so much.

Its like they are celebrities. And everyone loves them. Have more respect for yourself, members of BC.:(


Oh and, it seems that people on BC don't love you that much. Hope it tells you something?

[Ah_Shum]

I think master_yoda is just kinda jealous cuz some ppl r just generally more poplular then they are..im not a fan of ants..but..got nth against him..grateful for reviews~..

yoda..if u wanna get some popularity..go get ranked..sponsored by yonex then u can talk all the horse crap u want..lol

[MSN04]

Master Yoda,
What I really care is that Ants' past reviews have been fairly accurate so far. So, I believe what he says on this review, and very likely future reviews as well.

[kaizen]

I reckon you are a yonex undercover agent who has infiltrated BC with the intension of marketing rackets by making people think you are really knowledgable and have unbiased opinions which they can trust.



LOL.......KWUN!!! u reading this??.....u would be very happy about this if it was true, wouldn't you?.....that Yonex is actually trying to use BC as a means of marketing strategy!!!:eek:.....KWUN!!....let us know if u get an offer from Yonex for a take-over deal or any sponsorship deals....:D....i wanna buy some shares of BC..:cool:..who knows?....With Yonex watching BC, other makers would be following too........next thing u know BC is flourished with sponsorships!!!!.....:D


Alrite...time to come back to reality!!...guys, chill out....if u guys wanna debate, start another thread on it.....let the reviews be discussed here......

Master_Yoda, even if u wanna debate over such things, please do not make rash statements. Please try to know more of ants before u make any judgements about him. Your suspicions are understandable, but ur statements are unacceptable. Please realise that.:)

Everyone else, don't try to attack Master_Yoda. If u guys disagree with him, u just have to defend ants.;) Please don't make personal attacks. That's just not how a forum should work.:)

Forgive me if i have said too much.:o

[jhirata]

Alrite...time to come back to reality!!...guys, chill out....if u guys wanna debate, start another thread on it.....let the reviews be discussed here......

Master_Yoda, even if u wanna debate over such things, please do not make rash statements. Please try to know more of ants before u make any judgements about him. Your suspicions are understandable, but ur statements are unacceptable. Please realise that.:)

Everyone else, don't try to attack Master_Yoda. If u guys disagree with him, u just have to defend ants.;) Please don't make personal attacks. That's just not how a forum should work.:)

Forgive me if i have said too much.:o

Yop, I agree. The last time Master_Yoda stated an 'unacceptable' thing by the public, some of us including myself had personally attacked him. Hmmm.. if the majority is against his theories, then we know that he is mostlikely wrong. I dont see anyone supporting his statements yet. :o


I have no problem with ants, just don't why people on BC love him so much.
Nope, people on BC do love him so much. :D
If you have no problems with ants, then why are you questionning about him and his personal life ? :o


Its like they are celebrities. And everyone loves them. Have more respect for yourself, members of BC.
That's because Ants has done many great jobs in helping people with his 'accurate' reviews. :)

Lets get the mods to clear out all these off-topic posts.. and lets get back to the topic: ArcSaber 10 Review.

[YinLoung]

Ok kids. Cool down and let it go. STOP ANSWERING HIM AND ALL WILL END.

Now now, gimme more news about the Black Arc10 before I get my Arc Saber 10 Fire.

[phandrew]

Will the Arc10 hard case be the same as the Arc7 "banana" hard case?

[cooler]

Ok kids. Cool down and let it go. STOP ANSWERING HIM AND ALL WILL END.

Now now, gimme more news about the Black Arc10 before I get my Arc Saber 10 Fire.I thot arc10 comes in red only....

[F-Man]

Ants is ace! I have never had the pleasure of meeting him but I am sure that he is a very nice man. He seems nice, genuine and has a deep love of badminton just like many of us. That is all I need to know really.

Go Ants, you rock! Keep up the good work! ;)

[YinLoung]

I thot arc10 comes in red only....

Apparently, there's many version of it. ( According to the rumors and some assumptions ).

Arc 10 Fire
Arc 10 Black
Arc 10 ( similar to arc 7 but red instead of yellow )

and another one without much description....sigh...gimme picturessss omgggg.

I"M getting my arc10 next tuesday

wahahhahahahah

[MSN04]

Apparently, there's many version of it. ( According to the rumors and some assumptions ).

Arc 10 Fire
Arc 10 Black
Arc 10 ( similar to arc 7 but red instead of yellow )

and another one without much description....sigh...gimme picturessss omgggg.

I"M getting my arc10 next tuesday

wahahhahahahah

Hmm... from what I have read here and other forums. Apparently:
The black was a demo version
The "similar to arc7 but red instead of yellow" is a fake picture

So... I think there will only be ONE, which is the red one.
Again, that's what I have been reading and that's what I have interpreted.

[sifuyono]

Direct accused like master yoda said before is not allowable, so please respect each other in comment you've posting

[sifuyono]

Here is my answer if I am Ants.

4) I can tell you but I have to kill you.

:eek::eek: take it easy SH...calm down bro...:)
thank God you're not ants :D:D

[Matt]

Apparently, there's many version of it. ( According to the rumors and some assumptions ).

Arc 10 Fire
Arc 10 Black
Arc 10 ( similar to arc 7 but red instead of yellow )

and another one without much description....sigh...gimme picturessss omgggg.

I"M getting my arc10 next tuesday

wahahhahahahah

Have you been reading?

[HKChua]

ANTS is a humble and courteous guy.

Please don't make any unfounded allegations against him.

Thanks.

[kaizen]

Any way to get the demo version- the Black Magic????.....Black seems nicer than the commercial version colour scheme, at least for me.....hee...

[Matt]

Any way to get the demo version- the Black Magic????.....Black seems nicer than the commercial version colour scheme, at least for me.....hee...

You could always steal one or go to a professional car shop to have it repainted! ehehehh

[HKChua]

Any way to get the demo version- the Black Magic????.....Black seems nicer than the commercial version colour scheme, at least for me.....hee...

Wear sunglasses... :D

[kaizen]

You could always steal one or go to a professional car shop to have it repainted! ehehehh

LOL...i have no skills in stealing..but if u can tell me where Peter Gade or ants live, i could send some professionals to ransack their house...wahahaha
..:D

as for repainting Yonex might charge me for copyright issues...they might charge me for counterfeiting.....:eek:


Wear sunglasses... :D

Hmmm....sunglasses seems like not a bad idea.....i could buy different colours n shades of sunglasses....depending on my mood i can change my racket colour...at least when i see it....LOL....:p

[Tsumaranai]

Hm.., I'm wondering when Matt will go on his rampage of ranting "as-10 is a shuttle, and not a very good one" to BadmintonShopOnline. :rolleyes:;)

http://www.badmintonshoponline.us/unlimitshop/product_info.php?products_id=433&osCsid=ea2b1c96a6a0020d27092856dd50f8df

[Matt]

Hm.., I'm wondering when Matt will go on his rampage of ranting "as-10 is a shuttle, and not a very good one" to BadmintonShopOnline. :rolleyes:;)

http://www.badmintonshoponline.us/unlimitshop/product_info.php?products_id=433&osCsid=ea2b1c96a6a0020d27092856dd50f8df

ROFL!! ahahh. What kind of shuttle is that?

That store isn't good anyways!!

[sifuyono]

Apparently, there's many version of it. ( According to the rumors and some assumptions ).

Arc 10 Fire
Arc 10 Black
Arc 10 ( similar to arc 7 but red instead of yellow )

and another one without much description....sigh...gimme picturessss omgggg.

I"M getting my arc10 next tuesday

wahahhahahahah
i can assure you that arc saber-10 just have one color available, and it's red:)

[DevilG]

The red color of Arc-10 seems to be a bit sharper than that of NS-7000 and MP-100, but not as light as that of new AT-700. I've claimed that the Arc-10 is really ugly because it is "too red", but now I think that it is quite attractive, haha.

[cooler]

Apparently, there's many version of it. ( According to the rumors and some assumptions ).

Arc 10 Fire
Arc 10 Black
Arc 10 ( similar to arc 7 but red instead of yellow )

and another one without much description....sigh...gimme picturessss omgggg.

I"M getting my arc10 next tuesday

wahahhahahahahif so, do u know which version are u getting? If u got the wrong one, the color might clash with your outfit, hahahahaha

[YinLoung]

i can assure you that arc saber-10 just have one color available, and it's red:)


Ahhh, I didnt exactly follow through the entire thread so I probably missed those posts. Thanks.


I've ordered the Red ArcSaber 10....

So there's no more "Many" version of Arc10? T_T...Just pure reddd? TT



Cooler...are you Kevin or...?

[Matt]

I rahter get a blue one if it's out there =P

[z3048018]

You have just completely contradicted yourself in your first and second sentence.

So thanks for that you have just basically agreed with me in saying he works for yonex. I having nothing against ants, he's just taking orders from his boss at yonex. Plus I like the reviews

yes i did, thanks Yoda :). it was before i joined the company that i was revealing secrets, not after

[Fengwei]

According to the website yonex.com, the ARC10 doesn't have ElasticTi. So could someone tell me what they used as substitute/alternative on this racket? I don't quite see the alternative...

Thanks in advance!

[Fijitu]

According to the website yonex.com, the ARC10 doesn't have ElasticTi. So could someone tell me what they used as substitute/alternative on this racket? I don't quite see the alternative...

Thanks in advance!

they are using CS carbon nanotube instead of ElasticTi

[Fengwei]

Hey, thanks Fijitu!

[virtualkidneys!]

In that first picture it shows the arcsaber as white/red


Isnt it supposed to be all red like mp100?

[Burger_King]

because the first one is a fake some one made on photo shop or paint.

[Fengwei]

Just to make us drool even more, and keep us busy! :D;)

[Oldhand]

A few early pictures :o
My apologies, but...
Sony Ericsson K601i camera + Night = Really Pathetic Pictures :mad:

[wocdam]

Oldhand, have you tried it yet? i saw the racket, but was undecided whether to get it or not. do let us know soon

[Oldhand]

By the way, my ArcSaber 10 looks very different from the picture (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=783272&postcount=1)ants posted at the beginning of this thread :confused:

[jump17]

that is one sexy racket!

[Athelete1234]

By the way, my ArcSaber 10 looks very different from the picture (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=783272&postcount=1)ants posted at the beginning of this thread :confused:
Those were fake pictures :D:D. The one you have is the actual racquet.

[stork]

to me that looks very much like a copy of Sotx Diamondfighter series, also the martial name...

[Oldhand]

Those were fake pictures :D:D. The one you have is the actual racquet.
Really? :eek:
But that was posted by ants :confused:

[Oldhand]

Price, Store & Specs:

In all, the Yonex ArcSaber 10 (with Yonex BG-80 string, an ArcSaber racquet cover, a Yonex AC102EX synthetic grip wrap, and free stringing) cost me SGD 298. I bought it from 10+10, Bras Basah Complex, Singapore :)

By the way, the cone code is 310182SP (so, Yonex took a while to ship it).

It's a 3UG5 model and the stated maximum tension is 24lbs.
These are the same for the ArcSaber 7 as well.
The ArcSaber10 also has the same overall length, shaft length and head width as the ArcSaber7.
And it's got all those important words the Arc7 has... and one more: Ultra PEF.

Sadly, the Arc10 doesn't come with its own stand-out cover... what you get is the same curving (apparently saber-like) cover that Yonex introduced with the Arc7 :o


First Look & Stringing:

The first thing you notice about the racquet is that the Arc10 comes with a red original grip (while the Arc7 has a standard black original grip). It's made of very poor quality rubber... and will easily peel off along with the plastic wrap unless you're really careful.

In any case, there's not much use being careful... shift your grip a few times during play and it begins to come off in slivers :mad: (In hindsight, it was a good thing to have added an extra grip to the package)

As with the Arc7 earlier, the stringer didn't bat an eyelid when I asked for one-piece stringing at 29lbs. The Arc10 takes it easily... except that it's not recommended for the squeamish (the frame deforming inwards, though slightly, is quite a heart-stopping sight) :p


Warm-Up:

I chose one of the better local groups to test-play the Arc10 (for the curious: this is one of the 'heavyweight' Sunday-evening groups at Singapore's Hougang Sports Hall) :cool:

The first trial shots were an absolute surprise... the feel was exactly that of the Arc7 :eek: Stunned, I switched to a Ti-10 for a few shots... and then picked up both the ArcSabers. Switching them in my racquet hand for every alternate shot, I went through an extended warm-up, comprising mostly forehand-backhand clears and drops.

To put it simply, it was weird... the Arc7 and Arc10 felt the same :eek:


The Real Thing:

We began a game.
Now, something was different... the smash and the drive.
With the Arc10, both shots simply deteriorated in power and accuracy :o

The reason probably lies in my hitting style and the shaft's flex.
I hardly swing for smashes and drives... preferring to either whip or tap furiously. I guess I like 'em stiff :p However, the Arc10's shaft is less stiff than that of the Arc7 (not by much, but you can see the difference if you hold down the head and hang a dumbbell on the grip).

In other spheres (drops, clears, arcing blocks to the net, etc), if you have the Arc7, you have the Arc10. As for net-play, the Arc7 is the winner :)


Verdict:

In my opinion, the ArcSaber 10 is poor value for more money. In fact, towards the end of my 3-hour session tonight, I found myself switching to the Arc7 for the second half of the game :o

Marketing will tell you that the Arc10 has new or improved technology!
Where is that?
What is that?
Ultra PEF?
Gimme a break! ;)

Except for cosmetics and new high-sounding catch-phrases, the ArcSaber 10 feels and plays like the ArcSaber7.

Well, if there's anything special about the Arc10, it's the colour and the paint job. It looks classy (from afar too) and the red coat goes really well with the red grip. (But be sure to stock a few red overgrips... the original isn't gonna last more than a few fast game sessions.)

The only good reason I'd recommend buying the Arc10 is the price.
Since the ArcSaber7 is still selling at close to the ArcSaber10's price, you might as well go get the new toy ;)

[martin8768]

Price, Store & Specs:

In all, the Yonex ArcSaber 10 (with Yonex BG-80 string, an ArcSaber racquet cover, a Yonex AC102EX synthetic grip wrap, and free stringing) cost me SGD 298. I bought it from 10+10, Bras Basah Complex, Singapore :)

By the way, the cone code is 310182SP (so, Yonex took a while to ship it).

It's a 3UG5 model and the stated maximum tension is 24lbs.
These are the same for the ArcSaber 7 as well.
The ArcSaber10 also has the same overall length, shaft length and head width as the ArcSaber7.
And it's got all those important words the Arc7 has... and one more: Ultra PEF.

Sadly, the Arc10 doesn't come with its own stand-out cover... what you get is the same curving (apparently saber-like) cover that Yonex introduced with the Arc7 :o


First Look & Stringing:

The first thing you notice about the racquet is that the Arc10 comes with a red original grip (while the Arc7 has a standard black original grip). It's made of very poor quality rubber... and will easily peel off along with the plastic wrap unless you're really careful.

In any case, there's not much use being careful... shift your grip a few times during play and it begins to come off in slivers :mad: (In hindsight, it was a good thing to have added an extra grip to the package)

As with the Arc7 earlier, the stringer didn't bat an eyelid when I asked for one-piece stringing at 29lbs. The Arc10 takes it easily... except that it's not recommended for the squeamish (the frame deforming inwards, though slightly, is quite a heart-stopping sight) :p


Warm-Up:

I chose one of the better local groups to test-play the Arc10 (for the curious: this is one of the 'heavyweight' Sunday-evening groups at Singapore's Hougang Sports Hall) :cool:

The first trial shots were an absolute surprise... the feel was exactly that of the Arc7 :eek: Stunned, I switched to a Ti-10 for a few shots... and then picked up both the ArcSabers. Switching them in my racquet hand for every alternate shot, I went through an extended warm-up, comprising mostly forehand-backhand clears and drops.

To put it simply, it was weird... the Arc7 and Arc10 felt the same :eek:


The Real Thing:

We began a game.
Now, something was different... the smash and the drive.
With the Arc10, both shots simply deteriorated in power and accuracy :o

The reason probably lies in my hitting style and the shaft's flex.
I hardly swing for smashes and drives... preferring to either whip or tap furiously. I guess I like 'em stiff :p However, the Arc10's shaft is less stiff than that of the Arc7 (not by much, but you can see the difference if you hold down the head and hang a dumbbell on the grip).

In other spheres (drops, clears, arcing blocks to the net, etc), if you have the Arc7, you have the Arc10. As for net-play, the Arc7 is the winner :)


Verdict:

In my opinion, the ArcSaber 10 is poor value for more money. In fact, towards the end of my 3-hour session tonight, I found myself switching to the Arc7 for the second half of the game :o

Marketing will tell you that the Arc10 has new or improved technology!
Where is that?
What is that?
Ultra PEF?
Gimme a break! ;)

Except for cosmetics and new high-sounding catch-phrases, the ArcSaber 10 feels and plays like the ArcSaber7.

Well, if there's anything special about the Arc10, it's the colour and the paint job. It looks classy (from afar too) and the red coat goes really well with the red grip. (But be sure to stock a few red overgrips... the original isn't gonna last more than a few fast game sessions.)

The only good reason I'd recommend buying the Arc10 is the price.
Since the ArcSaber7 is still selling at close to the ArcSaber10's price, you might as well go get the new toy ;)
great review oldhand, after reading that i've made up my mind, im gona stick to me ns9000:p:p

[Oldhand]

great review oldhand, after reading that i've made up my mind, im gona stick to me ns9000:p:p
Lemme know if you wanna trade :D

[HKChua]

Price, Store & Specs:

The only good reason I'd recommend buying the Arc10 is the price.
Since the ArcSaber7 is still selling at close to the ArcSaber10's price, you might as well go get the new toy ;)

Hi Oldhand,

Thanks a lot. I almost bought the racket. I think I will stick to my AT700 (28LBS X 28LBS).

Thanks.

[Dreamzz]

Lemme know if you wanna trade :D

so, at the end of the day, it wasn't the dog's bollocks after all eh? shame really, but maybe we've run out of technology at the moment to improve on badminton racquets. looks like the old favourites such as the cab20, at700 and ti10 will continue to be go to racquets for some time.

[Matt]

It seems like Oldhand's review is too early because the was only for a very short peroid of time. The racket has to go through at some break-in peroid before the racket's peformance shows up. Interpreting by the way I am reading the review seems to indicate the racket's performance was not to its optimum.

As when I tried the Arc7, I didn't like it at first because the way the racket was responding but like the next time I tried it which was a week later, the racket started to get better.

[Oldhand]

Well, I took the same route with the ArcSaber 7.

I've had it for over two months now (and I play every day).
It doesn't seem to have ripened or withered with age ;)

Nevertheless, should the ArcSaber 10's characteristics change for the better, I shall duly post a revision :p

[cooler]

Well, I took the same route with the ArcSaber 7.

I've had it for over two months now (and I play every day).
It doesn't seem to have ripened or withered with age ;)

Nevertheless, should the ArcSaber 10's characteristics change for the better, I shall duly post a revision :p
maybe a new racket on an old hand doesn't mix:D:phehe

[Matt]

Maybe he's using his opposite hand hahaha!

Oldhand, you said in one of your posts you ordered an Arc10. Seems a bit interesting!!

[Dreamzz]

i do like a review of a new yonex racquet which doesn't say that it's the best ever. not that i don't believe all the hype or ants, but i really find it hard to believe that every time yonex introduce a new high end racquet, it's the best they've ever made. marketing has its limits .... :)

[Matt]

Top of the line is da best!!! in theory and in perfect world!!

Reviews, I like it as in general.

[KazeCloud]

Nobody has tried the 2u yet. It could give a lot more power from the head heaviness. The poor quality of the new grip sounds very shabby. =/

[Michael-Lam]

I played with it earlier today and I thought it was great. It has both "Power and Control" Quoted from Kim Dong Moon. Kim says it is the Nanospeed 8000 and the Armortec 800O put together. I would have to agree.

[cooler]

I played with it earlier today and I thought it was great. It has both "Power and Control" Quoted from Kim Dong Moon. Kim says it is the Nanospeed 8000 and the Armortec 800O put together. I would have to agree. didnt kdm referring arc Saber 7?
armortec 800 de or of?

[Oldhand]

I played with it earlier today and I thought it was great. It has both "Power and Control" Quoted from Kim Dong Moon. Kim says it is the Nanospeed 8000 and the Armortec 800O put together. I would have to agree.

Er, Kim Dong Moon???
Which racquet are you talking about? :confused:

[Michael-Lam]

Arcsaber 10

Found this in a chinese Forum... :cool:
kim had the black racquet.

[modious]

Price, Store & Specs:

In all, the Yonex ArcSaber 10 (with Yonex BG-80 string, an ArcSaber racquet cover, a Yonex AC102EX synthetic grip wrap, and free stringing) cost me SGD 298. I bought it from 10+10, Bras Basah Complex, Singapore :)

By the way, the cone code is 310182SP (so, Yonex took a while to ship it).

It's a 3UG5 model and the stated maximum tension is 24lbs.
These are the same for the ArcSaber 7 as well.
The ArcSaber10 also has the same overall length, shaft length and head width as the ArcSaber7.
And it's got all those important words the Arc7 has... and one more: Ultra PEF.

Sadly, the Arc10 doesn't come with its own stand-out cover... what you get is the same curving (apparently saber-like) cover that Yonex introduced with the Arc7 :o


First Look & Stringing:

The first thing you notice about the racquet is that the Arc10 comes with a red original grip (while the Arc7 has a standard black original grip). It's made of very poor quality rubber... and will easily peel off along with the plastic wrap unless you're really careful.

In any case, there's not much use being careful... shift your grip a few times during play and it begins to come off in slivers :mad: (In hindsight, it was a good thing to have added an extra grip to the package)

As with the Arc7 earlier, the stringer didn't bat an eyelid when I asked for one-piece stringing at 29lbs. The Arc10 takes it easily... except that it's not recommended for the squeamish (the frame deforming inwards, though slightly, is quite a heart-stopping sight) :p


Warm-Up:

I chose one of the better local groups to test-play the Arc10 (for the curious: this is one of the 'heavyweight' Sunday-evening groups at Singapore's Hougang Sports Hall) :cool:

The first trial shots were an absolute surprise... the feel was exactly that of the Arc7 :eek: Stunned, I switched to a Ti-10 for a few shots... and then picked up both the ArcSabers. Switching them in my racquet hand for every alternate shot, I went through an extended warm-up, comprising mostly forehand-backhand clears and drops.

To put it simply, it was weird... the Arc7 and Arc10 felt the same :eek:


The Real Thing:

We began a game.
Now, something was different... the smash and the drive.
With the Arc10, both shots simply deteriorated in power and accuracy :o

The reason probably lies in my hitting style and the shaft's flex.
I hardly swing for smashes and drives... preferring to either whip or tap furiously. I guess I like 'em stiff :p However, the Arc10's shaft is less stiff than that of the Arc7 (not by much, but you can see the difference if you hold down the head and hang a dumbbell on the grip).

In other spheres (drops, clears, arcing blocks to the net, etc), if you have the Arc7, you have the Arc10. As for net-play, the Arc7 is the winner :)


Verdict:

In my opinion, the ArcSaber 10 is poor value for more money. In fact, towards the end of my 3-hour session tonight, I found myself switching to the Arc7 for the second half of the game :o

Marketing will tell you that the Arc10 has new or improved technology!
Where is that?
What is that?
Ultra PEF?
Gimme a break! ;)

Except for cosmetics and new high-sounding catch-phrases, the ArcSaber 10 feels and plays like the ArcSaber7.

Well, if there's anything special about the Arc10, it's the colour and the paint job. It looks classy (from afar too) and the red coat goes really well with the red grip. (But be sure to stock a few red overgrips... the original isn't gonna last more than a few fast game sessions.)

The only good reason I'd recommend buying the Arc10 is the price.
Since the ArcSaber7 is still selling at close to the ArcSaber10's price, you might as well go get the new toy ;)


Interesting review which differs from Ants. He said the Arc10 was stiffer but you feel that is is less stiff!


In another post, you mentioned you got it for $260. How come it cost $298?? :eek:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=801198&postcount=21

[HKChua]

Interesting review which differs from Ants. He said the Arc10 was stiffer but you feel that is is less stiff!


In another post, you mentioned you got it for $260. How come it cost $298?? :eek:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=801198&postcount=21

May be, I say may be...

Arc 10 = S$260.00
Stringing = S$14.00
Overgrip = S$4.50
Total = S$278.50
GST = s$19.50
G-Total = S$298/-

Thanks.

[newjazz]

Arcsaber 10

kim had the black racquet.

yeah.. I m wondering... saw PG's pic using Black Color racket.. not too sure which Arcsaber or other model of Yonex racket??

btw Oldhand, gonna play tonite? seems like I will have a chance to try (if u let me of course) :D

[Matt]

Newjazz, he might have to run away from you lol!

[Michael-Lam]

the black one is only a demo


Arcsaber 10

kim had the black racquet.


Apparently, there's many version of it. ( According to the rumors and some assumptions ).

Arc 10 Fire
Arc 10 Black
Arc 10 ( similar to arc 7 but red instead of yellow )

and another one without much description....sigh...gimme picturessss omgggg.

I"M getting my arc10 next tuesday

wahahhahahahah

[jhirata]

Newjazz, he might have to run away from you lol!
Newjazz.. just dont break his new ArcSaber10.. or else he might ban you 'For the following reason(s): YOU BROKE MY NEW RACQUET!! ' :eek::cool::p

[newjazz]

Newjazz.. just dont break his new ArcSaber10.. or else he might ban you 'For the following reason(s): YOU BROKE MY NEW RACQUET!! ' :eek::cool::p

don't worry.. I won't break it! I will only make few scratches :D:D

[jhirata]

don't worry.. I won't break it! I will only make few scratches :D:DYeah I'm sure he wouldnt mind just a few scratches or so :rolleyes:

[modious]

May be, I say may be...

Arc 10 = S$260.00
Stringing = S$14.00
Overgrip = S$4.50
Total = S$278.50
GST = s$19.50
G-Total = S$298/-

Thanks.

Then that is too expensive already.......

Can get it for $270-$280 inclusive of stringing with NBG 98.

[LouisW]

Hi Oldhand,

Thanks a lot. I almost bought the racket. I think I will stick to my AT700 (28LBS X 28LBS).

Thanks.

what ......... both main and cross string at 28Ibs :eek:

[LouisW]

Might have a chance to try my new Arc10 tonight.

[HKChua]

what ......... both main and cross string at 28Ibs :eek:

Yup, but... if it is a new racket, keep it at 25 x 25 for the time being, until you are willing to forgo your warranty.....:D

Thanks.

[Master Yoda]

yes i did, thanks Yoda :). it was before i joined the company that i was revealing secrets, not after


You obviously don't know what "contradicted" means.

[Oldhand]

yeah.. I m wondering... saw PG's pic using Black Color racket.. not too sure which Arcsaber or other model of Yonex racket??


The black was a full-spec prototype sans the cosmetics.
Sort of like a car being road-tested... without the final paint job :p


btw Oldhand, gonna play tonite? seems like I will have a chance to try (if u let me of course) :D

You're welcome to have a game with it.
Just remember to bring along SGD 298 :D

[HKChua]

The black was a full-spec prototype sans the cosmetics.
Sort of like a car being road-tested... without the final paint job :p



You're welcome to have a game with it.
Just remember to bring along SGD 298 :D

29 x 29? 4 knots?

Thanks.

[Oldhand]

29 x 29? 4 knots?

Thanks.

...two knots :)

[Mansaii]

hi oldhand:
thanks for the review, sigh, its disappointing. I was gonna get this racquet tho. will u prefer NS 9000s or Arc 10?

[drifit]

i wonder how is the 4U version playability...:rolleyes:

[chicha]

It only comes in 2U and 3U only...


i wonder how is the 4U version playability...:rolleyes:

[drifit]

It only comes in 2U and 3U only...

i also wonder why....
that yonex's salesguy said, the soon arriving stock is 4U.
so, let me wait few more days and check it out.
if it is only 3U, i will kick him down to the road from 18th floor.......;)

[Matt]

i also wonder why....
that yonex's salesguy said, the soon arriving stock is 4U.
so, let me wait few more days and check it out.
if it is only 3U, i will kick him down to the road from 18th floor.......;)

The guy was trying to con you! =P

[newjazz]

The black was a full-spec prototype sans the cosmetics.
Sort of like a car being road-tested... without the final paint job :p



You're welcome to have a game with it.
Just remember to bring along SGD 298 :D

hahaha.. luckily i din read this... :D:D

anyway, thanks for letting me try that beautiful arc10.
i think i must agree with you that this arc10 not much different feeling as compare to arc7.

i still think my next new racket will be at900t.. :)

[Master Yoda]

Price, Store & Specs:

In all, the Yonex ArcSaber 10 (with Yonex BG-80 string, an ArcSaber racquet cover, a Yonex AC102EX synthetic grip wrap, and free stringing) cost me SGD 298. I bought it from 10+10, Bras Basah Complex, Singapore :)

By the way, the cone code is 310182SP (so, Yonex took a while to ship it).

It's a 3UG5 model and the stated maximum tension is 24lbs.
These are the same for the ArcSaber 7 as well.
The ArcSaber10 also has the same overall length, shaft length and head width as the ArcSaber7.
And it's got all those important words the Arc7 has... and one more: Ultra PEF.

Sadly, the Arc10 doesn't come with its own stand-out cover... what you get is the same curving (apparently saber-like) cover that Yonex introduced with the Arc7 :o


First Look & Stringing:

The first thing you notice about the racquet is that the Arc10 comes with a red original grip (while the Arc7 has a standard black original grip). It's made of very poor quality rubber... and will easily peel off along with the plastic wrap unless you're really careful.

In any case, there's not much use being careful... shift your grip a few times during play and it begins to come off in slivers :mad: (In hindsight, it was a good thing to have added an extra grip to the package)

As with the Arc7 earlier, the stringer didn't bat an eyelid when I asked for one-piece stringing at 29lbs. The Arc10 takes it easily... except that it's not recommended for the squeamish (the frame deforming inwards, though slightly, is quite a heart-stopping sight) :p


Warm-Up:

I chose one of the better local groups to test-play the Arc10 (for the curious: this is one of the 'heavyweight' Sunday-evening groups at Singapore's Hougang Sports Hall) :cool:

The first trial shots were an absolute surprise... the feel was exactly that of the Arc7 :eek: Stunned, I switched to a Ti-10 for a few shots... and then picked up both the ArcSabers. Switching them in my racquet hand for every alternate shot, I went through an extended warm-up, comprising mostly forehand-backhand clears and drops.

To put it simply, it was weird... the Arc7 and Arc10 felt the same :eek:


The Real Thing:

We began a game.
Now, something was different... the smash and the drive.
With the Arc10, both shots simply deteriorated in power and accuracy :o

The reason probably lies in my hitting style and the shaft's flex.
I hardly swing for smashes and drives... preferring to either whip or tap furiously. I guess I like 'em stiff :p However, the Arc10's shaft is less stiff than that of the Arc7 (not by much, but you can see the difference if you hold down the head and hang a dumbbell on the grip).

In other spheres (drops, clears, arcing blocks to the net, etc), if you have the Arc7, you have the Arc10. As for net-play, the Arc7 is the winner :)


Verdict:

In my opinion, the ArcSaber 10 is poor value for more money. In fact, towards the end of my 3-hour session tonight, I found myself switching to the Arc7 for the second half of the game :o

Marketing will tell you that the Arc10 has new or improved technology!
Where is that?
What is that?
Ultra PEF?
Gimme a break! ;)

Except for cosmetics and new high-sounding catch-phrases, the ArcSaber 10 feels and plays like the ArcSaber7.

Well, if there's anything special about the Arc10, it's the colour and the paint job. It looks classy (from afar too) and the red coat goes really well with the red grip. (But be sure to stock a few red overgrips... the original isn't gonna last more than a few fast game sessions.)

The only good reason I'd recommend buying the Arc10 is the price.
Since the ArcSaber7 is still selling at close to the ArcSaber10's price, you might as well go get the new toy ;)

I rest my case - **** could be marketing for yonex

:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::c rying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::cry ing::crying::crying::crying:

[z3048018]

i'll pass your message to him :)

[cooler]

i also wonder why....
that yonex's salesguy said, the soon arriving stock is 4U.
so, let me wait few more days and check it out.
if it is only 3U, i will kick him down to the road from 18th floor.......;)

i never seen yonex made 3 weight version of a same model racket

[Pete LSD]

Is the AS 10 a lemon then? Is it too early to say?

[silentheart]

According to Yonex USA, the ARC10 is arriving late March. Just like the pretty girls going to a party, they are always late...

As far as I know, US coded is 3UG4.

I will post pictures and review once I get my dirty little hands on them or when they fall off the truckin from of me.

[madbad]

Hahaha, some of you guys are hilarious. One unfavourable review by oldhand and you're jumping ship already. Remember, this is his opinion. Do you guys know his playing style, how hard he hits? Until you get the hardware in your hands, you won't know if it's suitable for you. As for those who must have the latest and the (supposedly) best, ...gawd :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Ah_Shum]

Hahaha, some of you guys are hilarious. One unfavourable review by oldhand and you're jumping ship already. Remember, this is his opinion. Do you guys know his playing style, how hard he hits? Until you get the hardware in your hands, you won't know if it's suitable for you. As for those who must have the latest and the (supposedly) best, ...gawd :rolleyes::rolleyes:

so agree..whether a racket is good or not depends on U..not an OLDHAND..lol..:p..jk~..but..how someone uses a racket can be completely different to how u use it urself..u should just take is a general comment..best way is to always try it out urself..maybe U URSELF is able to bring out the rackets abilities instead of some1 else..

[Matt]

It's the end of the world because of Oldhands review!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! :eek:

[madbad]

It's the end of the world because of Oldhands review!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! :eek:

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:rolleyes:

[twobeer]

Hahaha, some of you guys are hilarious. One unfavourable review by oldhand and you're jumping ship already. Remember, this is his opinion. Do you guys know his playing style, how hard he hits? Until you get the hardware in your hands, you won't know if it's suitable for you. As for those who must have the latest and the (supposedly) best, ...gawd :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Well, Its not very strange that different player will come to different conclusions (based on style, preferences, strenght, speed technique etc. etc.)

And as always its not one racket fits all.. even the pros use many different models even within the same sponsorship...

It would be more strange if all reviews were the same :)

I am very puzzled however why oldhand deliberately choose one piece stringing at 29lbs??? If you want to test a racket I don't see why you shouldnt use the stringing pattern it was designed for.. dind't mention what strings was used also ?!?!?

/Twobeer

[Pete LSD]

Okie, let's try this to test the AS 10 again:

(1) cut the string
(2) restring using 2 piece
(3) set preference tension to 30 lbs main and 33 lbs cross
(4) the machine must be constant pull
(5) videotape your tests
(6) post on YouTube

:D

[Ah_Shum]

Okie, let's try this to test the AS 10 again:

(1) cut the string
(2) restring using 2 piece
(3) set preference tension to 30 lbs main and 33 lbs cross
(4) the machine must be constant pull
(5) videotape your tests
(6) post on YouTube

:D

why don't u lead the way mr.lai..im sure u can prove sth..:rolleyes:

[madbad]

Okie, let's try this to test the AS 10 again:

(1) cut the string
(2) restring using 2 piece
(3) set preference tension to 30 lbs main and 33 lbs cross
(4) the machine must be constant pull
(5) videotape your tests
(6) post on YouTube

:D

That's an expensive experiment should anything go wrong :D

[coolhandluke]

Hmm... only so-so ratings for the ARC10 from the two reviews so far. Thanks, ants and Oldhand. It will be interesting to see more reviews from other BC users and see how it fares over time.

[Master Yoda]

What is the actually difference in playability whether its one or two piece stringing?

I would have thought one piece is better because then the string would be working as one unit. Also one piece looks better.

[jhirata]

What is the actually difference in playability whether its one or two piece stringing?

I would have thought one piece is better because then the string would be working as one unit. Also one piece looks better.
Yep, one-piece looks 'cleaner' because there are almost no overlapping of the string around the frame, and there are only two knots too.. Well, that's the reasoning from the shopkeeper of shuttle-house. Hmm.. the performance shouldnt really change significantly between the two stringing methods..

[h4n5ip]

more reviews pleaseeeeeeee.
So far we only heard 2 reviews, and sounds like, it just an ordinary rackets.
Me, waiting for the SP to come. Hope to hear nice thing about this toy.

[Master Yoda]

I'm going to stick with my armortec 900T, but I might upgrade from a 4u UK code to a 3U jp code.

[Oldhand]

more reviews pleaseeeeeeee.
So far we only heard 2 reviews, and sounds like, it just an ordinary rackets.
Me, waiting for the SP to come. Hope to hear nice thing about this toy.
I'm afraid you have missed the point :o

In sum, what I said is that the ArcSaber 10 is just a prettier ArcSaber 7.
That doesn't mean that the Arc Saber 10 is an ordinary racquet! ;)

[Pete LSD]

Can we conclude that it's the player and not the racquet then :D?


I'm afraid you have missed the point :o

In sum, what I said is that the ArcSaber 10 is just a prettier ArcSaber 7.
That doesn't mean that the Arc Saber 10 is an ordinary racquet! ;)

[martin8768]

Hahaha, some of you guys are hilarious. One unfavourable review by oldhand and you're jumping ship already. Remember, this is his opinion. Do you guys know his playing style, how hard he hits? Until you get the hardware in your hands, you won't know if it's suitable for you. As for those who must have the latest and the (supposedly) best, ...gawd :rolleyes::rolleyes:


your saying Im jumping ships because i decided to stay with my old racket? and that not making a $250+ investment that is probably 80% marketing is not jumping ships???

(yeah im also in a bad mood because i cracked one of my ns9000s today and lol...Im not going to buy a arc10 thought :P)

and going back to topic, would u recommend this racket to someone? that is a good question, and why?

[MSN04]

your saying Im jumping ships because i decided to stay with my old racket? and that not making a $250+ investment that is probably 80% marketing is not jumping ships???

(yeah im also in a bad mood because i cracked one of my ns9000s today and lol...Im not going to buy a arc10 thought :P)

and going back to topic, would u recommend this racket to someone? that is a good question, and why?

You can't blame him b/c there are currently lots of people jumping off the Laffs and Sens bandwagon in Ontario. :D Just j/k...

So far, I have broken 1 NS9000X (warranty covered), and 1 Arc7... I know how it feels... :(

[madbad]

your saying Im jumping ships because i decided to stay with my old racket? and that not making a $250+ investment that is probably 80% marketing is not jumping ships???

(yeah im also in a bad mood because i cracked one of my ns9000s today and lol...Im not going to buy a arc10 thought :P)

and going back to topic, would u recommend this racket to someone? that is a good question, and why?

What I'm saying is that people shouldn't be lemmings and be reliant on others to make their decisions for them. The review by oldhand is exactly what it is, his review. To him, it doesn't feel right. To you or someone else... who knows. As advocated my many (including myself) the best way is to try it out first. Then you'll know if it suits you. Case in point is when the ArcSaber 7 came out, sure I was curious. Some people I knew swore by it. So I tried it, found it wasn't my cuppa and stuck with my trusted NS9000X. Not that I wanted to buy an Arc Saber 7.

In the end you buy a racket to help improve your game, not because it's the latest and greatest thing out there or it looks good on you.

[Tsumaranai]

Yep, one-piece looks 'cleaner' because there are almost no overlapping of the string around the frame, and there are only two knots too.. Well, that's the reasoning from the shopkeeper of shuttle-house. Hmm.. the performance shouldnt really change significantly between the two stringing methods..

Isn't it true that with one-piece stringing the mains will be looser and there's a higher possibility that the frame will deform?

[HKChua]

Isn't it true that with one-piece stringing the mains will be looser and there's a higher possibility that the frame will deform?

Yes and true. But... most pros (99.978%) will string with one-piece...

[kclint]

Yes and true. But... most pros (99.978%) will string with one-piece...

it's ok for them because all of them are sponsored by Yonex and other brands.. so if ever the racquet break or deformed, they will just get another batch from shop.. easy....

[HKChua]

it's ok for them because all of them are sponsored by Yonex and other brands.. so if ever the racquet break or deformed, they will just get another batch from shop.. easy....

I have been stringing with one piece at tension of 26 x 26 or 28 x 28LBS. Have not break any rackets so far.

Just make sure that the stringer himself is also a badminton player....

Thanks.

[sifuyono]

Isn't it true that with one-piece stringing the mains will be looser and there's a higher possibility that the frame will deform?
1 piece gives better tension holding, because not many knot:)

[wuldup]

I really like the color of the racket.

[jhirata]

Isn't it true that with one-piece stringing the mains will be looser and there's a higher possibility that the frame will deform?
I have no idea, but it seems like that in Japan, one-piece stringing is the most commonly used stringing method. I do understand the concept that the mains will be looser, but aren't the mains already supposed to be looser than the crossses by 2lbs ? I dont quite like two-piece stringing right now. All my racquets which were restrung with two-piece stringing seems to have a narrower and longer frame. Or maybe it's just the stringer's problem.

[DanPong]

I have no idea, but it seems like that in Japan, one-piece stringing is the most commonly used stringing method. I do understand the concept that the mains will be looser, but aren't the mains already supposed to be looser than the crossses by 2lbs ? I dont quite like two-piece stringing right now. All my racquets which were restrung with two-piece stringing seems to have a narrower and longer frame. Or maybe it's just the stringer's problem.
Obviously the stringer problem, they probably either pull your racket too long when they put on the machine or they add too much tension on the cross string. I string racket by myself and I can't wait to get ArcSaber 10 on my hand. I'm waiting it to come out in TH version and ask my friend to buy it for me. :D:D:D

[Oldhand]

This thread is about the Yonex Arc Saber 10.
Take the stringing debate elsewhere, please ;)

[kenny7_2006]

The ArcSaber 10 has arrived here in KK, Sabah... the price was RM 849 = USD 240 (roughly)... far too expensive beyond my reach... sigh.. but i was surprised to find it had arrived here already, kinda early... normally it would take a few months for new rackets to arrive...

was surprised by the redness of it... hehe... but nice racket....

[mcchooi]

I'm going to stick with my armortec 900T, but I might upgrade from a 4u UK code to a 3U jp code.

m yoda - i did exactly the same (well, almost...mine're 4U TH), but ended up selling off the 3U JP after using it twice. messed up the timing of my shots completely.

does anyone know if anyone in AE08 using the Arcsaber10? Gao Ling's normally very adventurous with new racquets...

and does anyone know when this racquet will be available at shops in BKK? going there in july...considering swapping my AT900Ts for this new kid on the block! (so to speak) :p

[Master Yoda]

[quote=mcchooi;805137]m yoda - i did exactly the same (well, almost...mine're 4U TH), but ended up selling off the 3U JP after using it twice. messed up the timing of my shots completely.

I have actually decided against getting the Armortec 900 3U jp, I think I just like to buy something new because makes me feel good. I'm doing fine with my 4u uk.

How Was the jp different?

Mcchooi - what kinda standard are you. Plus age and whats your power like(are you double strong)? etc.

Got any 900T jp left?

[modious]

Used it today to play Singles.

Didn't really feel there is much difference between AS7 and AS10 to be honest. It was strung at 24x26 lbs with NBG 98. Will probably do a full review after using it for a couple more times.

[Matt]

3U > 4U!! =)

I'll have to have to see when I get my racket. 25.5/27.5 via NGB98 yeehah!! That's only on my ARC7, ARC10 will most likely be the same.

[DanPong]

so far a few people mention that Arc 10 feels very similar to Arc 7. :confused: As far as I know Arc 7 feel really flexible and very low power. However, it will be easy for people who have slower swing speed. Is this the case? can anyone who already have the Arc 10 help verify.

Thank you

Dan

[masterblaster99]

Dan,

I agree with you about the Arc 7. My buddy just got one recently and I tried it last night. I found it to be abit too flexible fro my liking. I can't vouch for the Arc 10, but my understanding is that it is stiffer than the Arc 7.

[MSN04]

huh? arc7 no power? :rolleyes:
I think it is pretty good....

[masterblaster99]

I'm not trying to say the Arc 7 doesn't have power. In fact I thought it faired just fine in that department. I just am not a fan of the medium stiffness of the racquet is all. lol.

[Matt]

Arc7 is good using your snapping powers.

[kaatt]

Went to the Yonex All England Open today :) The ArcSaber 10 was launched this week in the UK and is currently only on sale at the All England Open.
Got a ArcSaber 10 which feels great. It is was described to me as 'stiffer' than the the Arc 7. I have played with a Arc 7 which had a really good feel.
I am looking forward to comparing the two tomorrow night at training. :p

[Mattixo]

How much does the arcsaber 10 goes for in the US?
price range?

and whats a good stringing recommendations tension for the arcsaber 10

[W Norman]

I just tried a few swing with ArcSaber 10 , it's fell more stiffer and solid compare to Arc Saber 7 , to me it's good for attcking or rapid firing player, the racket frame look more slim compare to amourtec series , just a little bit maybe because of difference shape , The colour WOW! it's actract me.. The Glowing red and white with red grip.. it look nice , more more better than amourtec series , the "down side" is .. The price for this item to me toooo..... expensive RM850.00 (US$244.96) with string ( in East Coast of Malaysia Penisular, Kuala Terengganu Town). Yesterday evening , my buddies , my regular stringer (He also racket shop owner) just strung it 27lbs, it look good... but to me it depend on your playing style , i just strung my racket at 25.5lbs with BG68 titanium for my amourtec 900T

[specializer]

I just tried a few swing with ArcSaber 10 , it's fell more stiffer and solid compare to Arc Saber 7 , to me it's good for attcking or rapid firing player, the racket frame look more slim compare to amourtec series , just a little bit maybe because of difference shape , The colour WOW! it's actract me.. The Glowing red and white with red grip.. it look nice , more more better than amourtec series , the "down side" is .. The price for this item to me toooo..... expensive RM850.00 (US$244.96) with string ( in East Coast of Malaysia Penisular, Kuala Terengganu Town). Yesterday evening , my buddies , my regular stringer (He also racket shop owner) just strung it 27lbs, it look good... but to me it depend on your playing style , i just strung my racket at 25.5lbs with BG68 titanium for my amourtec 900T

Hi, I just found out price for ArcSaber 10 and it costs RM680 without string.

Is it normal for the racket in this price?

Cheers.

[HKChua]

Hi, I just found out price for ArcSaber 10 and it costs RM680 without string.

Is it normal for the racket in this price?

Cheers.

In Singapore, with string, grip and cover, the price is S$266. Go figure out.

Thanks.

[din]

In KL, in general the initial price will be around RM610. In six months time, a seller with volume sales will able to sell it for around RM550. In particular this what was happened to AT900 series.

Regards


Hi, I just found out price for ArcSaber 10 and it costs RM680 without string.

Is it normal for the racket in this price?

Cheers.

[silentheart]

The price for a US coded ARC10 is between $210~$230 in US.

[specializer]

So it's normal for this racket at this price.

I will be getting one and the shop gotta order it from KL (I'm in Penang anyway).

Thanks everyone!

[phandrew]

There is already a SP version in the market

http://www.badmintonshoponline.us/unlimitshop/product_info.php?products_id=435

[stork]

wonder where I´ve seen this before... all this red-hot and on-fire advertising that "inspired" Yonex ...

[stork]

HEAT 7900, above is HEAT 8700

[CML32]

Went to the Yonex All England Open today :) The ArcSaber 10 was launched this week in the UK and is currently only on sale at the All England Open.
Got a ArcSaber 10 which feels great. It is was described to me as 'stiffer' than the the Arc 7. I have played with a Arc 7 which had a really good feel.
I am looking forward to comparing the two tomorrow night at training. :p
kaatt, how much was the arcsaber 10 at the yonex all england as i am goingto the finals on sunday and am thinking of acquiring one but not sure whether to wait as it is always a bit expensive to get it at the all england.:(

[Oldhand]

Yonex has already given a face to the Arc Saber 10.

At the AE 2008, Bao Chunlai is using it... red overgrip and all.
Obviously, this isn't a power-player's racquet ;)

[coolhandluke]

Yonex has already given a face to the Arc Saber 10.

At the AE 2008, Bao Chunlai is using it... red overgrip and all.
Obviously, this isn't a power-player's racquet ;)Well, BCL was recently using the yellow Ti-10, which does pack quite a bit of power, don't you think? ;)

[kaatt]

kaatt, how much was the arcsaber 10 at the yonex all england as i am goingto the finals on sunday and am thinking of acquiring one but not sure whether to wait as it is always a bit expensive to get it at the all england.:(

Hi CML32 :)

They are not discounting any of the racquets at the All England. The RRP is £160 :eek: so i just closed my eyes and handed over my credit card. I was told that the it wont be easy to get hold of for the next 2 months in the shops/online in the UK. So if you can wait till then you might save £20 or so.

I played with it for the first time last night and loved it :D (i know I would say that ;)) a friend at my club tried it too and put the experience well, he said 'it feels like you get more power with less effort' (His normal raquet is a NS 9000) It is difficult to describe how it feels, but I dont think you will be dissapointed. I am getting it restrung to 26lbs and am REALLY looking forward to Sunday when I can really try it out!

Hope you enjoy the All England :)

[Oldhand]

That's not the Recommended Retail Price.
That's a Really Ridiculous Price or a Really Rip-off Price :eek:

You should be getting it for around £100 to £120 :mad:

[Athelete1234]

Well, BCL was recently using the yellow Ti-10, which does pack quite a bit of power, don't you think? ;)
And before that he was using the At700... and before that the NS8000 (which Chen Hong turned into a very offensive racquet when he was using it)

But obviously BCL doesn't play a super offensive game anyways.

[kaatt]

That's not the Recommended Retail Price.
That's a Really Ridiculous Price or a Really Rip-off Price :eek:

You should be getting it for around £100 to £120 :mad:

Unfortunately I am in 'rip off Britain' the RRP is £160. The NS9000 still costs £130ish in the UK from good stores. I am sure the price will fall, but it will take a bit of time:(

[DanPong]

Hi CML32 :)

They are not discounting any of the racquets at the All England. The RRP is £160 :eek: so i just closed my eyes and handed over my credit card. I was told that the it wont be easy to get hold of for the next 2 months in the shops/online in the UK. So if you can wait till then you might save £20 or so.

I played with it for the first time last night and loved it :D (i know I would say that ;)) a friend at my club tried it too and put the experience well, he said 'it feels like you get more power with less effort' (His normal raquet is a NS 9000) It is difficult to describe how it feels, but I dont think you will be dissapointed. I am getting it restrung to 26lbs and am REALLY looking forward to Sunday when I can really try it out!

Hope you enjoy the All England :)

Well Katt,

We are waiting for your review. Please enjoy the game and try all fancy shot.:D:D

[Tinshuttle]

hiya folks

I just had my arc10 arrvied from mybadmintonstore in hk this morning, just came back from a 3 hour session from my local club. I just thought i d like to share my opinions and experience with it so far;

I am just your bog standard intermediate club player with lanky fingers if i may add. :D I usually play with mp99 or at900p before i broke my at 900t. :crying: anyway here i go.

Arc 10 jp strung 24lbs with bg98. 3ug4 with pu super grip

Not that it is important but this is definately one of the 'redest' if not the 'redest' racquet yonex has to offer :cool:. the warming up felt very weird at first ( i have not played with its brother arc7 before) less stiff compare to the at900p, sweetspot was noticabley bigger than at900p. Clears and back to back shots were as easy as at900p however the shuttle placement seems to be more accurate.

I also noticed the shuttle was less 'sticky' with the arc10. Shuttles felt just like an arrow being released by a streched bow :p the frame of the raquet is about 30% slimmer than the armortech.

Now gametime, I love serving with this racquet, my low serves were more accurate and consistant compared to the at900p. Now I dont have a fast swing nor a very powerful wrist but smashing with this raquet felt wonderful, they were very accurate to say the least when I aimed for the sidelines but i didnt felt the 'bang' as i have had with the at900, however I needed not to insert as much power for smashes as with the at900p. and I felt less strains after constant smashes. ( i smashed for like 8 times vs this bloke before he finally broke, perhaps I would have done it fewer with at900p but I definately cannot smash as consistant with it)
The bigger sweetspot defo made this racquet easier for me. (perhaps i just wasnt good enough for the stifness of the at900p).



The more I played with this racquet the more comfortable I got playing with it. The feel of this raquet is definately top notch. My drop shots and net blocks were way better and accurate, I used overhit ALOT when playing drops with the at900p and totally sucked at netplay but tonight this raquet made me see my netplay potential. :cool:

I think this is definately a good all round raquet just like ants said, its main strengths are the solid feel and accuracy. Powerwise: it is there for the pros but I wouldnt think it is on par with at700. I retrived smashes better tonight than the at900p perhaps due to the slimmer frame structure it has but I couldnt really lift that high against smashes, I need to insert more power whilst defending with it but it is nevertheless more agile than at900p.

That was my Personal experience from tonight folks, overall i m very satisfied with this raquet, if you ever thought u are not using ur at900p to its potential or want to try something else for your net games I strongly recommended the arc10.

+ Solid feel and amazing net accuracy. VEry good controls.

- defensive lifts needs more effort; the weird red colour, PRICE!

(sorry its late i didnt bother doing spellcheck :D)

[taneepak]

The basic difference between any AT vs ArcSaber 10 or any slim X-section racquet is that the latter has less air resistance. Reduced air resistance means faster, speedier (shades of effortlesss), and more maneuverable. The distinguishing feature of At series of racquets is their wide X-section at the top, which gives raw power but at the expense of speed.

[Moggy]

hmm i'm told i can get an Arc10 in hong kong for $1200, is that cheap? I recall AT900 and NS9000 being released around $1800

[blkhtm]

I just tried a few swing with ArcSaber 10 , it's fell more stiffer and solid compare to Arc Saber 7 , to me it's good for attcking or rapid firing player, the racket frame look more slim compare to amourtec series , just a little bit maybe because of difference shape , The colour WOW! it's actract me.. The Glowing red and white with red grip.. it look nice , more more better than amourtec series , the "down side" is .. The price for this item to me toooo..... expensive RM850.00 (US$244.96) with string ( in East Coast of Malaysia Penisular, Kuala Terengganu Town). Yesterday evening , my buddies , my regular stringer (He also racket shop owner) just strung it 27lbs, it look good... but to me it depend on your playing style , i just strung my racket at 25.5lbs with BG68 titanium for my amourtec 900T
U can get rm650 with grip and string at puchong.

[Burger_King]

i got it and it is sooooo powerful, i love it.

[jhirata]

Anyone wanna share a picture of their Arc10 ?

[Ar Dan]

hmm i'm told i can get an Arc10 in hong kong for $1200, is that cheap? I recall AT900 and NS9000 being released around $1800

The current price of the ARC10 is $1,280 w/ string, it is actually around the same price of the AT900 and NS9000 when it was first released.:)

They are selling really fast, at Rose Sports, they had like 6 of them waiting for stringing.

[Tsumaranai]

So far, it seems that there's really only a few positive opinions.

[PhoenixStyle]

When is this racket going to come out in the U.S.

[MSN04]

When is this racket going to come out in the U.S.

last time I heard, it is 20th in Canada... doh...

[KazeCloud]

So far, it seems that there's really only a few positive opinions.

Nobody have used the 2ug5 one either. It might be very powerful. :p

[ants]

Yonex Arcsaber 10 Review

Review Date : November 07
Racket Type : Yonex ArcSaber 10
Specs : 3UG4
Strings: Yonex Nanogy98 ( Supplied )
Tension: 30lbs , 1 Piece Stringing
Stringing Machine : Yonex ESPRO
Grip: Original Grip
Technology : CS Carbon Nanotube,Newly built in T-joint,Super HMG (High Modulus Graphite), Ultra PEF (Polyethylene Fibers)
Shuttle Used: Yonex Official and Yonex Tournament

First Impression:
The technology behind this racket is definitely a much improved version of the ArcSaber7. I would say Arcsaber 10 is on a class of its own. However the color itself is not as striking. It’s a disappointment for me as I would expect this racket will cause fear to the opponents by just a look at it. But then still water run’s deep. It may look tame but the Arcsaber10 is definitely a dangerous weapon for those who use it. And at the same time people might get used to the racket color as time goes by. This is also proven when the Nanospeed9000 color way came out, it look funny and weird but after a while many love this racket just by the looks itself. So I guess it will be the same for the Arcsaber 10. If i were to give a nickname to this racket i would call it Black Magic. The name enough might strike fear to your opponent.

Stringing Impression:
Based on the facts and technology that I have about this racket. I have no fear in stringing this racket at high tension. But since my usual tension is at 30lbs, I find that it’s a no sweat stringing this piece of racket. If it’s a 2U it would be much easier. Racket head and frame had slight movement when pulled but I guess its common for all rackets but I would say that Its even more stable than stringing a Armortec 700. With a good support of the World best stringing Machine ESPRO make the job easier.


Warm Ups:
I like the weight of this piece of technology. The racket does feel stiffer than the Arcsaber 7. It does not vibrate as much. And the shuttle does looks that it bounce back faster once it touches the string bed during hitting. Controlling the shuttle on the net is much better and if those who are used to head heavy racket will not have any problem adapting to Arcsaber 10 in terms of net play. As for flat drives I may need to exert more wrist do have the best results. Slow smashes feel good and I didn’t really exert much effort. Shuttle placements feel easy using this racket.


Game Time:

The speed of the shuttle released from this racket is fairly noticeable compare with the other rackets I used. Smash seems faster and in competitive playing speed does matter. Although I’m not really a front guy, using this racket does attract me in playing in the front. Shots deceptions are slightly easier when I’m receiving my opponent’s serve. I am satisfy in the smashing power ability produced by Arcsaber 10 , but I do wish there were more Ommph in it. Maneuverability wise I found it is easier for me to change my gripping method from offense to defense and vise versa. Even flat push and drives was good, just that I have to push my wrist and thumb more to produce a little more power to counter my opponents flat drives. In terms or retrieving smashes, this racket does not disappoint me although I have to put more effort on it because at the same time it does allow me to control the shuttle while defending from smashes. I can feel the shaft bend to create the torque when defend and during smashes which are a good thing in badminton because it allows more power generated from the racket to the shuttle. If I were Fu Hai Feng, I might create another smash speed record with this racket.

Conclusion:

Arcsaber 10 is a racket that will appeal to vast range of players from amateurs and professionals alike. Many will appreciate its usability and adaptability. It has the all around performance from speed, power and control. If you are looking for more Power from this racket, I would suggest you to get a 2U version instead. Arcsaber 10 offers enough improvement over Arcsaber 7 to make an upgrade or racket switch justifiable. If you are looking for an upgrade, you might want to consider Arcbsaber 10. However the only factor that hinders someone in getting the racket is the PRICE. With the technology and materials used in making this Arcsaber 10 the results produced does satisfy my curiosity and I have no regret using this racket as one of my main racket… of course until a better one comes along.

I would rate this racket in terms of Feel, Control, Power and Defense. However it is based on my own test and review. It may vary depending on the player, tension and what string you use.

Feel: 9.5/10
Control: 9.5/10
Power: 9/10
Defense: 8.5/10
Maneuverability: 8.5/10


Pros : All around racket, Good control.
Cons: Lack of Defense, Price and looks

Suitability : Intermediate/Advance. Singles/Doubles racket

Ants



2U would be a better option. Please read my review above.

[HKChua]

2U would be a better option. Please read my review above.

Hi ANTS,

How is Arc Saber 10 compared to AT900P.

I sold away AT900P because I can derive more power from AT700. But... AT900P is really quite a good racket.

I am looking at the 3UG4 version.

Thanks.

[chicha]

Anyone wanna share a picture of their Arc10 ?

Here are some of my Arc 10 pictures. I will have the chance to test it this Wednesday and knowing I can't use it with my full potential since I just recover from a twisted ankle :crying::crying::crying:..So I doubt I will see the Arc 10 true potential this Wednesday..

The racket feels head heavy just like my AT900P (AT900P a bit more heavier) although on the shaft said even balance and it swings like NS9KS. I like the colour of this racket. It's bright red as bright as my red stringing machine.

[AznAndrew]

In 2 weeks i'm going to Minneapolis/Bloomington. I have 2 questions.

1) Do they sell them in Minneapolis/U.S?
2) How much does it cost?

[Fengwei]

Wow, that looks amazing Chica! Nice pictures! The red is really bright, matches perfectly to with your Stringing Machine.

You say it swings like an NS9KS, but the head is just as head heavy as the AT900P. How would you rate the racket on power, feel, defence and manouverability, etc. when compared to those 2 rackets?

Thanks for the pics!

[Matt]

Nice pictures! =) Woot

[NoName1225]

Here are some of my Arc 10 pictures. I will have the chance to test it this Wednesday and knowing I can't use it with my full potential since I just recover from a twisted ankle :crying::crying::crying:..So I doubt I will see the Arc 10 true potential this Wednesday..

The racket feels head heavy just like my AT900P (AT900P a bit more heavier) although on the shaft said even balance and it swings like NS9KS. I like the colour of this racket. It's bright red as bright as my red stringing machine.

you do know that GREEN (:D) is good for the eyes, and red (:mad:) is bad for your eyes if you stare at it for a long time right?

With that much red either you're spending each day as Chinese New Years or you're going to need some pretty uncool glasses.

just kidding but seriously, too much red is bad for the eyes

[masteryoda]

My first post woooo!!!!

Hi Guys and Girls.

I have recently been researching the ArcSaber 10 on this forum and many other websites and found it very useful. I went to the All England on Friday and purchased the ArcSaber 10. I previously had been using the NS8000 which I found was a brilliant racket with a good combination of power and touch. This is what attracted me mostly to the Arcsaber 10. After reading posts from owners and ants I decided to get my ArcSaber 10 racket restrung with BG80 at the All England by a guy from CentralSports to add a little more power. I predominately play men’s doubles and consider myself an offensive power player but still require a good touch with fast racket head movement. From watching Zheng Bo and Jung J S on Sunday they were both using the ArcSaber 10. This filled me with confidence that I had brought the right racket for me (not comparing my skill to theirs). I played with the racket on Saturday morning for a bit of light training and found, touch, racket speed and power all to better than my previous racket but to what degree it remains to be seen. I am playing on Monday and I am in a match on Tuesday so will do a more comprehensive report for potential buyers after. Here are a few pictures of the Arc 10.

[Dreamzz]

i think it'll looks better with a deeper red grip, kinda like what BCL has.

how much were they going for at the AE?

and how much did stringing cost?

just curious ...

[Tinshuttle]

what grip size are the ones selling in yonex all england?

3U g3?

[jhirata]

i think it'll looks better with a deeper red grip, kinda like what BCL has.

how much were they going for at the AE?

and how much did stringing cost?

just curious ...
BCL and PG, who were in the Arc10 Advertisement are now using the ARC10.
Will LCW be using the ArcSaber 10 too ?

[Dreamzz]

i hope not, he's been doing well with the at900p so far.
he's made it at least to the SF of the last few SS, barring the korean open when he was ill, so i think he feels comfortable with it.
i hope there isn't any marketing pressure on him to change.

[david07]

i hope not, he's been doing well with the at900p so far.
he's made it at least to the SF of the last few SS, barring the korean open when he was ill, so i think he feels comfortable with it.
i hope there isn't any marketing pressure on him to change.
Agree with you Dreamzz, would hate to see one of my favourite players have to change rackets due to marketing pressure from Yonex and end up not doing as well as he is with the at900p

[masteryoda]

i think it'll looks better with a deeper red grip, kinda like what BCL has.

how much were they going for at the AE?

and how much did stringing cost?

just curious ...


Yeah i prefer the deeper red grip but i didn't have one to hand (gutted). The racket cost me £160 and £15 for the restring (at 23 Lbs). Central Sports said they would probably be on sale in their shop and online in 2 or 3 months for about £135 £140.

[Tinshuttle]

so is it a 3u g3?

[masteryoda]

so is it a 3u g3?

It was definately 3u and the grip size i think was g4. My over grip is covering it up now so i cant check. Sorry :confused:

[jhirata]

so is it a 3u g3?
There must be more than just one gripsize.
The 3U will definitely be there. G4 would be the standard grip size.
Remember, 3U = weight, G3 = grip size. People have different sized hands, so there are different sized grips. If Yonex only releases the G3, they'd be really user-unfriendly.

[Tinshuttle]

well in the uk where i live all the yonex 3us comes in g3 only sadly..

[Matt]

3ug5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jhirata]

well in the uk where i live all the yonex 3us comes in g3 only sadly..
That is probably because people generally have larger hands than those in the Asian counties. In Japan, G4 and G5 are the standards. Even G6 is available for some racquets such as the Ti3.
If the 3U's come in G3 only, then I guess that the 2U's would also come in G3 only, because it's heavier.

[chicha]

Wow, that looks amazing Chica! Nice pictures! The red is really bright, matches perfectly to with your Stringing Machine.

You say it swings like an NS9KS, but the head is just as head heavy as the AT900P. How would you rate the racket on power, feel, defence and manouverability, etc. when compared to those 2 rackets?

Thanks for the pics!

I'm not sure about the Arc 10 power yet but its manouverability is quite good maybe due to the slim head design....feels less air resistant. I will let you guys know more about its playability once I have try it on Wednesday.

[chicha]

you do know that GREEN (:D) is good for the eyes, and red (:mad:) is bad for your eyes if you stare at it for a long time right?

With that much red either you're spending each day as Chinese New Years or you're going to need some pretty uncool glasses.

just kidding but seriously, too much red is bad for the eyes

You're right...green is peaceful but red is more aggresive which built more confident on me :D and my eyes are still good since I didn't looked at my racket when I played....I just focus on the birdie.....:p:p:p

[ants]

Here are some of my Arc 10 pictures. I will have the chance to test it this Wednesday and knowing I can't use it with my full potential since I just recover from a twisted ankle :crying::crying::crying:..So I doubt I will see the Arc 10 true potential this Wednesday..

The racket feels head heavy just like my AT900P (AT900P a bit more heavier) although on the shaft said even balance and it swings like NS9KS. I like the colour of this racket. It's bright red as bright as my red stringing machine.

Nice pics u have there.. but becareful when you string it with that machine. U might create a dent inside the 12 oclock frame if u just use that support. I would suggest u to get a stringing adapter.

[Baddict_2006]

Wish I Could Have One Too!!!i Hope Someone Will Give This To Me As A Gift On My Bday!hehehe..:)

[masteryoda]

HI guys.....

Just a quick one.

Just to let u know i used the racket last night in practice and the racket is amazing!!! The touch and feel is really good while the power generated from smashing is phrnominal. I definately agree that this racket generates effortless power aswell. As you have guessed i like the racket thus far. The test will come using it in my match this evening.

Hope i dont break it LOL!:crying:

[ants]

HI guys.....

Just a quick one.

Just to let u know i used the racket last night in practice and the racket is amazing!!! The touch and feel is really good while the power generated from smashing is phrnominal. I definately agree that this racket generates effortless power aswell. As you have guessed i like the racket thus far. The test will come using it in my match this evening.

Hope i dont break it LOL!:crying:

All the best.. hope your racket will not get any clash. :) I hope you had fun using it.

[chicha]

Can't wait to try mine as well.....:D:D:D but I will need to get some pain killer for my ankle first...:p:p:p

[issarakaya]

Currently use AT 900T and very satisfied with the performance. Seeing this thread makes me want to buy this new idol and hopefully that i'll not regret that.........

[bmsupport]

Just received my ArcSaber 10 from badmintonshoponline.us today SP coded 2UG5, I would have prefered a G4 instead but they did not have that in stock

I will update you after I get to try it out thursday this week

[Smichz]

It is in fact looks nice.Hopefully i can find someone who is using this racket n have myself a try..hehe

[masteryoda]

Just got back from my match and i am pleased not only did we win 17-1 but the racket is great and got through without any damage!:)

As a said earlier today the smashing was great and the touch and feel at the net was also good however slightly different to NS8000. My timing of flicks and taps and backhand drives i found that i was slightly misstiming but that will come with another couple training sessions Wednesday and Thursaday. I have found however that my backhand smash has a greater amount of consistency and has more venom in it. So far despite it being quite different to my last racket i have found it a plesure to play with. I feel i am not unlocking my full potencial (with this racket) and i am not doing it justice. Overhead racket speed it out of this world tho!!! Whip smash off a flick serve is deverstating!!!;)

Ill keep you posted on developments over the next few days and try not to bore you!! :eek:

[david07]

Just got back from my match and i am pleased not only did we win 17-1 but the racket is great and got through without any damage!:)

As a said earlier today the smashing was great and the touch and feel at the net was also good however slightly different to NS8000. My timing of flicks and taps and backhand drives i found that i was slightly misstiming but that will come with another couple training sessions Wednesday and Thursaday. I have found however that my backhand smash has a greater amount of consistency and has more venom in it. So far despite it being quite different to my last racket i have found it a plesure to play with. I feel i am not unlocking my full potencial (with this racket) and i am not doing it justice. Overhead racket speed it out of this world tho!!! Whip smash off a flick serve is deverstating!!!;)

Ill keep you posted on developments over the next few days and try not to bore you!! :eek:
what kind of scoring system? lol 17-1?

[masteryoda]

what kind of scoring system? lol 17-1?

each pair (3 pairs) plays 6 games each. (my partner and i took 6) Wooo!!:D

[Dreamzz]

ah, you see, the way you've worded it, it sounded like you won a game 17-1.
whereabouts are you in the uk?
doesn't sound like it's a normal league match.

[david07]

Ya, the scoring is a bit weird. As for the ArcSaber 10, I will be getting mine at the end of the month when it finally comes to Canada. Can't wait for it.

[YinLoung]

Nothing special. Got mine 2 days ago, strung yesterday, played 2 hours and find that it feels exactly like Arc Saber 7. In my opinion, people think it's better because it is named Arc Saber 10, released during All England 08, some pros are using it and...it has a killer red look....besides the look.. I'm pretty disappointed by this racket that cost about 20$ more than my ArcSaber 7. I'll try it again this friday and if it's still the same feeling, i'll go back to ArcSaber 7.

[masteryoda]

ah, you see, the way you've worded it, it sounded like you won a game 17-1.
whereabouts are you in the uk?
doesn't sound like it's a normal league match.

Yeah sorry about that.

Yeah I play in the UK. It was a mens doubles match and in that league that is the standard format for matches. That format is also used quite widely thoughout the country.

The scoring system is the new one where you play to 21.

[HKChua]

Hi Everyone,

I know the review for the Arc Saber 10 racket is mixed; no power, good, superb...

Nonetheless, I ordered my piece of Arc Saber 10, instructed my stringer to string it with BG80 at 25LBS, one piece stringing.

Will be collecting it tomorrow and will use it on Friday.

Thanks.

[speedy]

:)
Hi Everyone,

I know the review for the Arc Saber 10 racket is mixed; no power, good, superb...

Nonetheless, I ordered my piece of Arc Saber 10, instructed my stringer to string it with BG80 at 25LBS, one piece stringing.

Will be collecting it tomorrow and will use it on Friday.

Thanks.

Good to see you trying new racquets. Would wait for your review :)

[HKChua]

:)

Good to see you trying new racquets. Would wait for your review :)

Actually... I was quite hesitant the day before. But... last night (11/03/2008), my partner smashed my racket instead of the birdie, breaking the frame of my AT-700 (Old Model) completely. He was using the old MP-23 and his racket was intact after the clash. Damn!:mad:.

I am currently left with only one AT-700 (Old Model).

I know Arc Saber is not going to be as powerful as my AT-700. But... I don't like the new AT-700. I tested the Arc Saber and was pretty happy with the feel.

Will try to wield the 'Tu Long Dao'...

Thanks.