Yonex ArcSaber 10 Review

[ArcSaber_700]

i played both demo racquet before i decide to buy the 3U version. 2U is just a bit heavy for me which affects my defense. if you have a strong wrist/arm then go with the 2U version.

here's the update my arcsaber 10 w/ added lead tape (.5 gm) at 12 o'clock

it's an excellent racquet to begin with but with the added weight on the head my smash packs a little more punch.. comparable to my AT700.. i'm satisfied with the result and will definitely keep the lead tape on my racquet :)

[ArcSaber_700]

I will also try taneepak's suggestion and put the lead tape inside the frame.. i will update you guys on the result tonight

[Khawai]

I need help on the lead tape as well. I want my racket to be a little more head heavy. how should i do it?

[HKChua]

I need help on the lead tape as well. I want my racket to be a little more head heavy. how should i do it?

Cut 4 cm of your lead tape, paste it at both sides of the frame at 12 O'Clock.

And... don't bother about how much air it is going to drag, it is negligible! Pasting the lead strips don't need rocket science. Just paste it and play.

Was wondering if the solder will bond with the frame??? If anyone happens to break their Arc Saber 10, kindly performing some soldering to see if it bond with the frame medium....

Thanks.

[Khawai]

Cut 4 cm of your lead tape, paste it at both sides of the frame at 12 O'Clock.

And... don't bother about how much air it is going to drag, it is negligible! Pasting the lead strips don't need rocket science. Just paste it and play.

Was wondering if the solder will bond with the frame??? If anyone happens to break their Arc Saber 10, kindly performing some soldering to see if it bond with the frame medium....

Thanks.

Thanks! :D what about sticking the lead tape at 11 and 1 o'click. Is it any different? :confused:

[HKChua]

Thanks! :D what about sticking the lead tape at 11 and 1 o'click. Is it any different? :confused:

I think.... if you mishit, you will feel a bit of vibrations. But... very slight. I had sticked 4 x 1cm at 11 O'Clock and 4 x 1cm at 1 O'Clock. Did the same on both sides, total 16 x 1cm.

Nonetheless, I will be testing out 12 O'clock this Friday. Most probably 6 cm each side...

Thanks.

[taneepak]

Racquets are designed to cater for all types of players, from the all rounder to those who only want one attribute-smashing power. It is almost impossible to design a racquet that satiisfies everyone. This is the reason why some players who have bought one type of racquet, although very good, later finds it lacking in some areas he gives more priority to. Hence the use of lead tape to get more power. Unlike a tennis racquet, the use of lead tape in badminton is limited to the 12 o'clock, and at no more than 1g total, to maintain the same control and whip of the racquet. But this is advisable only for light racquets in the 5U, 4U, and at most 3U weight categories.
Lead tape is soft and ductile and will adhere well with its adhesive backing to the inside at the 12 o'clock spot. This spot gives you the biggest bang for the lightest lead tape weight. It also improves the sweetspot by moving it up. You should never solder the lead tape. It will not adhere and even if it does it will form an imperfection of 3 materials that are not well intergated and matrixed together-the tape, the solder, and the painted surface of the spot where the tape is being glued.
Lead is toxic and care should be exercised.
Once you have had enough field tests by different players on a racquet with lead tape, of course changing its weight from 0.2g to 1.0g before you find the weight the testers most favour, it is much better to have the racquet redesigned and remolded to put in that extra weight of say 0.8g during manufacture. To get 0.8 g the plant will have to put in 1.0g of the same material as the racquet material (not lead tape), as this will give you a net weight of 0.8g after drilling the 4 holes at the 12 o'clock. Believe me this is much better than a patch-on lead tape. I have had some racquets done this way-only ten and I don't know where they are now although I have heard that a Philippines national or ex-national player has got one in his possession. I am having another ten made the same way but will have to wait until the plant completes its rush orders for some big name OEMs.

[HKChua]

Racquets are designed to cater for all types of players, from the all rounder to those who only want one attribute-smashing power. It is almost impossible to design a racquet that satiisfies everyone. This is the reason why some players who have bought one type of racquet, although very good, later finds it lacking in some areas he gives more priority to. Hence the use of lead tape to get more power. Unlike a tennis racquet, the use of lead tape in badminton is limited to the 12 o'clock, and at no more than 1g total, to maintain the same control and whip of the racquet. But this is advisable only for light racquets in the 5U, 4U, and at most 3U weight categories.
Lead tape is soft and ductile and will adhere well with its adhesive backing to the inside at the 12 o'clock spot. This spot gives you the biggest bang for the lightest lead tape weight. It also improves the sweetspot by moving it up. You should never solder the lead tape. It will not adhere and even if it does it will form an imperfection of 3 materials that are not well intergated and matrixed together-the tape, the solder, and the painted surface of the spot where the tape is being glued.
Lead is toxic and care should be exercised.
Once you have had enough field tests by different players on a racquet with lead tape, of course changing its weight from 0.2g to 1.0g before you find the weight the testers most favour, it is much better to have the racquet redesigned and remolded to put in that extra weight of say 0.8g during manufacture. To get 0.8 g the plant will have to put in 1.0g of the same material as the racquet material (not lead tape), as this will give you a net weight of 0.8g after drilling the 4 holes at the 12 o'clock. Believe me this is much better than a patch-on lead tape. I have had some racquets done this way-only ten and I don't know where they are now although I have heard that a Philippines national or ex-national player has got one in his possession. I am having another ten made the same way but will have to wait until the plant completes its rush orders for some big name OEMs.

Hi taneepak,

Well said, should be made sticky for all.

By the way, I don't mean to solder the lead strips. What I mean is to simply solder at the inner side of the frame to gain weight. The solder itself is a combination of tin/lead. Off course one will have to repaint the part of the frame because the paint will be ruined by the heat from the solder...

Soldering... for experiment only! :D

Thanks.

[Khawai]

:eek:That sounds like a lot of trouble. Won't it be expensive?:confused:

[taneepak]

:eek:That sounds like a lot of trouble. Won't it be expensive?:confused:

They won't do it for you for 10 racquets. For 1,000 racquets, of course yes. I can get it done because of mutual benefits not related to money but to racquets and racquet materials.

[andrew chan]

so lead tape can only be applied to the 12 o clock position? what happens if i put it on the 1 and 11 o clock positions?

[HKChua]

so lead tape can only be applied to the 12 o clock position? what happens if i put it on the 1 and 11 o clock positions?

Well.... it is not going to kill you. :D

I am also having the lead tape attached at 1 and 11 O'Clock now. Reluctant to remove it as I am afraid that I may damage the paint work....

If you want to remove it, you have to use an object softer than your paintwork to work on your lead strips, slowly removing it. For eg., a plastic ruler....

Thanks.

[andrew chan]

lol, i didnt think so, but which is more optimal for improving the head balance, but if a head heavy arcsaber is going to be released as u said, i think ill wait it out

[wiwi86]

tested this racquet ytd.

Yonex ArcSaber 10 w Yonex BG-66 at 24lbs.

every swing is v powerful, hittin sound rocks even if comparing w my other racquets tat is also stringed w BG-66 at 24lbs. Smash shots r strong..

However, i feel tat e control of shuttlecock w this racquet isnt reali v gd..cant get e shuttle fly to e position i wanted it to be..

my 2cents tots.

[HKChua]

lol, i didnt think so, but which is more optimal for improving the head balance, but if a head heavy arcsaber is going to be released as u said, i think ill wait it out

Actually, frankly speaking, I prefer my Arc Saber 10 without any lead tapes. It is light and yet powerful when smash with your wrist. There is really nothing wrong with the current Arc Saber 10.

After attaching the lead tapes for a while, you will realize that even when you remove them, you can smash as well....

Thanks.

[HKChua]

tested this racquet ytd.

Yonex ArcSaber 10 w Yonex BG-66 at 24lbs.

every swing is v powerful, hittin sound rocks even if comparing w my other racquets tat is also stringed w BG-66 at 24lbs. Smash shots r strong..

However, i feel tat e control of shuttlecock w this racquet isnt reali v gd..cant get e shuttle fly to e position i wanted it to be..

my 2cents tots.

Well... you will get used to it and control it better.

24LBS is a bit low for this racket. Try to string it at 26 LBS and you will see its power. Don't worry about tennis elbows or swollen shoulders, stringing the Arc Saber 10 at 26LBS make it feel the same as other rackets at 24LBS.

Thanks.

[taneepak]

Actually, frankly speaking, I prefer my Arc Saber 10 without any lead tapes. It is light and yet powerful when smash with your wrist. There is really nothing wrong with the current Arc Saber 10.

After attaching the lead tapes for a while, you will realize that even when you remove them, you can smash as well....

Thanks.

That is why lead tape must be carefully applied and it must not be over 1.0g, otherwise that original airiness, whippy, and tactile feel are sacrificed.

[andrew chan]

thanks for the advice HKChua, now to decide between ARC 10 and the AT 900T, looking for something that can go doubles and singles, but is lighter than my AT 700, but doesnt lack in power (i dont expect either of these to be as powerful as my AT 700)

[BadFever]

I was playing double and had a racket clashed while trying to retrieve a shot to the middle. Both of us swung at the same time. I am glad it was my forehand. Bad luck to my partner, who's using the ever so fragile NS8000. It broke at 11 o'clock. As for my ArcSaber10, not even a single paint chip. I even had to rubbed off some paint from the NS8000. :p

[h4n5ip]

Yes very strong indeed.
Still waiting for the first broken reported Arch saber 10.

[HKChua]

Yes very strong indeed.
Still waiting for the first broken reported Arch saber 10.

The hidden secret is all Arc Saber 10 are coated with diamond dust! :D Just kidding.

Arc Saber 10 is tough. This is a FACT!!!:D

Thanks.

[Khawai]

Agreed. My friend's arc10 claimed the lives of 2 rackets the other day.

[ahkai]

Yes very strong indeed.
Still waiting for the first broken reported Arch saber 10.

my first post... hope it turns out right.

I'll make you happy :rolleyes:... broken arcsaber !!! got it for less than a month. friend killed it. within a 2 month period, he (carbonex 21) took the lives of my mp99 (29/03) and tu long dao (10/5)!!! btw, am i the first :confused:? enjoy the sight... :D

[Fengwei]

Oh dear, that looks bad. I'm sorry for your loss. Did you get a refund from your friend? How did he break it? Clash/mishit? We're very curious...

Jep, as far as I know, you are the first. I'm not sure if you should be happy about that. ;)

Has this "New-age racket" broken all records for surviving this long after it's been launched? :rolleyes: You usually hear about breakages very quick after a racket is launched. This ArcSaber 10 held it out quite well then :D

[smash23]

I got a friend using Arcsaber 10 which broke at 8 o'clock.

He use it for almost a month only.

[Burger_King]

Yeah i just broke mine a week ago.

I got mine broken in the same place as ahkai

[cooler]

Yeah i just broke mine a week ago.

Rackets:
Yonex Armortec 900 tech,soon to have a arcsaber 10.


getting another 1?

[Burger_King]

Ill probably sell my armortec and just go with ti-10's or get arcsaber 10.

But i thought i liked the armortec 900 tech, but when i tired out the arc saber 10 i loved it so much compared to the 900. Now i just cant play with the 900. My drop shots are horrible.

[silentheart]

Hearing all these broken racquets just break my heart...

[Burger_King]

Yeah that was my first racket, i have broken.

[h4n5ip]

I dunno how you guys clashed the racket. if the clash was pretty dame hard, of course any racket will broke.
However my friend (big shop) has told me that so far he hasn't heard any claim for the racket yet.
BTW sorry to hear that, pls throw your experience on how you clash the racket. Is it consider big clash? or you just thing that the product is defect.

[HKChua]

I dunno how you guys clashed the racket. if the clash was pretty dame hard, of course any racket will broke.
However my friend (big shop) has told me that so far he hasn't heard any claim for the racket yet.
BTW sorry to hear that, pls throw your experience on how you clash the racket. Is it consider big clash? or you just thing that the product is defect.

Same here.

If the racket were to break when hiting shuttles, it is a manufacturing defect. If the racket were to break upon clashing with other rackets, well.... is co-ordination defect. :D

Thanks.

[taneepak]

The strongest racquets that can withstand racquet clashes better than any other type are racquets made from kevlar. Kevlar racquets have very high compressive strength with respectable young's modulus.

[ahkai]

Oh dear, that looks bad. I'm sorry for your loss. Did you get a refund from your friend? How did he break it? Clash/mishit? We're very curious...

Jep, as far as I know, you are the first. I'm not sure if you should be happy about that. ;)

Has this "New-age racket" broken all records for surviving this long after it's been launched? :rolleyes: You usually hear about breakages very quick after a racket is launched. This ArcSaber 10 held it out quite well then :D

well, my friend hit me one his forehand while i was doing a back hand clearance (center ball). both time... but i have to say, paint is excellent compared to mp99. godd get another one. he's paying! good enough... 'it's like trying out a racquet and i liked it. so i get to replace it with a new one.' :D might get an armotec 900 tech. i tried my friend's. seem like the same. what do you guys think?

[Burger_King]

Well what happen is it was my shot i took it, i had already hit, but just, and he swung for it and hit my racket. It was clearly my shot to.

[niteeshs]

Oh dear, that looks bad. I'm sorry for your loss. Did you get a refund from your friend? How did he break it? Clash/mishit? We're very curious...

Jep, as far as I know, you are the first. I'm not sure if you should be happy about that. ;)

Has this "New-age racket" broken all records for surviving this long after it's been launched? :rolleyes: You usually hear about breakages very quick after a racket is launched. This ArcSaber 10 held it out quite well then :D


I would not be happy with racket beaking within a month of play. Yonex typically has bad record on durability and this racket seems to follow the trend.

[Master Yoda]

But I thought the CS carbon Nanotubes where as strong as diamonds?

[SpendorK]

I would not be happy with racket breaking within a month of play. Yonex typically has bad record on durability and this racket seems to follow the trend.



So you can always buy a new racket in couple a month, Yonex sell more rackets. :D

[Burger_King]

But the frame on the arc saber is 30% smaller then an armortec. If am not mistaking.

[docruben7]

Believe me when I say that arcsaber10 is remarkably strong racquet, I have broken 2 nanospeed9x already in a span of 1 year, but with arcsaber10 I already have 2 casual clashes and I was surprise that there wasnt even a paint chip. Kudos to Yonex arcsaber 10 is a very tough racquet. I just wish they would release a light head racquet like nanospeed9 but just as tough as arcsaber10.

[cooler]

But I thought the CS carbon Nanotubes where as strong as diamonds?
depends on which plane and axis are u talking about

[Oldhand]

It's just over three months since I bought and began using the ArcSaber 10.
IMO, it's the most overrated racquet Yonex has brought out in recent years.

In spite of all the high-sounding terms marked on it, it's just another modern racquet.

Q&A Session:

Is it the best racquet? - No
Is it an exceptional racquet? - No
Is it a good racquet? - Yes

Is it great value for its price? - No
Is it good value for its price? - No
Is it value for its price? - No

[h4n5ip]

Believe me when I say that arcsaber10 is remarkably strong racquet, I have broken 2 nanospeed9x already in a span of 1 year, but with arcsaber10 I already have 2 casual clashes and I was surprise that there wasnt even a paint chip. Kudos to Yonex arcsaber 10 is a very tough racquet. I just wish they would release a light head racquet like nanospeed9 but just as tough as arcsaber10.

Yes very strong racket indeed.
I think because of the Super HMG.

[HKChua]

Yes very strong racket indeed.
I think because of the Super HMG.

Yep, it is very strong.

The Arc Saber 10 is the best racket I ever bought so far. My previous rackets were AT-700s...

On my Arc Saber 10, I added 12cm of lead strips on each side, altogether 2 x 12cm of lead strips. At 12 O'Clock, 4cm of lead strips. Leaving 0.5cm gap at both sides, I attached 4cm of lead stips, 1 cm at a time. Well... you can say that it is from 10 O'Clock to 2 O'Clock.

Really loved to use this racket. Will give it up only if YONEX were to release a version of the Arc Saber that is more head heavy, so that I can do away with the lead strips.

Thanks.

[silentheart]

Yep, it is very strong.

The Arc Saber 10 is the best racket I ever bought so far. My previous rackets were AT-700s...

On my Arc Saber 10, I added 12cm of lead strips on each side, altogether 2 x 12cm of lead strips. At 12 O'Clock, 4cm of lead strips. Leaving 0.5cm gap at both sides, I attached 4cm of lead stips, 1 cm at a time. Well... you can say that it is from 10 O'Clock to 2 O'Clock.

Really loved to use this racket. Will give it up only if YONEX were to release a version of the Arc Saber that is more head heavy, so that I can do away with the lead strips.

Thanks.
What weight code is it? 2U might help.

[taneepak]

Yes very strong racket indeed.
I think because of the Super HMG.

This is just one OEM's smokescreen name for one of the following grades of HMG made by Toray Chemicals, the undisputed leader in high strength HMG:

1. Grade M40J 54.7 msi TM, 640 ksi TS, >175 ksi CS
2. Grade M46J 63.3 msi TM, 610 ksi TS, >140 ksi CS
3. Grade M50J 69.0 msi TM, 600 ksi TS, 120 ksi CS
4. Grade M55J 78.2 msi TM, 585 ksi TS, 125 ksi CS
5. Grade M60J 85.3 msi TM, 569 ksi TS, 110 ksi CS

You will note that the best material M60J with the highest tensile modulus (Youngs modulus) is also the weakest in compressive strength, meaning it will kaput more easily in a racquet clash. However, the lowest Young modulus M40J with a TM of only 54.7msi has the highest compressive strength. Is this the Super HMG used in the ArcSaber?
Racquet material quality as used in badminton racquets is a compromise-high quality comes with low compressive strength, and low quality comes with strong compressive strength.
Another myth : no racquet manufacturers including Yonex know how to make HMG or any graphite. They are the specialty of industrial chemical companies.

[Smichz]

It is one of the most user friendly yet powerful racket.Not as powerful as the AT series,but controlling with it seems to be so easy.Haven't tried it in doubles though.

[h4n5ip]

This is just one OEM's smokescreen name for one of the following grades of HMG made by Toray Chemicals, the undisputed leader in high strength HMG:

1. Grade M40J 54.7 msi TM, 640 ksi TS, >175 ksi CS
2. Grade M46J 63.3 msi TM, 610 ksi TS, >140 ksi CS
3. Grade M50J 69.0 msi TM, 600 ksi TS, 120 ksi CS
4. Grade M55J 78.2 msi TM, 585 ksi TS, 125 ksi CS
5. Grade M60J 85.3 msi TM, 569 ksi TS, 110 ksi CS

You will note that the best material M60J with the highest tensile modulus (Youngs modulus) is also the weakest in compressive strength, meaning it will kaput more easily in a racquet clash. However, the lowest Young modulus M40J with a TM of only 54.7msi has the highest compressive strength. Is this the Super HMG used in the ArcSaber?
Racquet material quality as used in badminton racquets is a compromise-high quality comes with low compressive strength, and low quality comes with strong compressive strength.
Another myth : no racquet manufacturers including Yonex know how to make HMG or any graphite. They are the specialty of industrial chemical companies.

I was wondering what you do and where you work.
It seems like you have better knowledge of chemistry and physics
I just thought that Ti-10 used UHMG that's why make the rackets solid and strong. Thus with super HMG, it will make the racket stronger.

nevertheless, so far we have heard small number of broken AS10. ;)
Will it make a superh HMG different? :cool:

[hoiboy79]

Is it true that when you hit with the ArcSaber 10 it's like you are hitting nothing? That is what my friend says, can any of you confirm this or give me your thoughts on how it feels?

[HKChua]

Is it true that when you hit with the ArcSaber 10 it's like you are hitting nothing? That is what my friend says, can any of you confirm this or give me your thoughts on how it feels?

Did he string his racket??:D Just kidding!

Basically, you need very good wrist power in order to wield the ArcSaber 10 to its fullest potential. Else.... add 12cm of lead tape at each side of the frame, making it as head heavy as AT-700....

Thanks.

[hoiboy79]

Hitting nothing meaning that it feels similar to APACS's Visible Hollow Series. He said that the shock is dampened so much so that u can't feel anything.

[foo.tw]

If you didn't change the original grip, then it's true.
The red grip, IMO, is overdamping.
I think the red grip is the worst among all yonex original grips.

[CHOcobo]

the fake/counterfeit arc10 has the same shape as the real arc10. has anyone played using both? is there any huge differences?


Is it true that when you hit with the ArcSaber 10 it's like you are hitting nothing? That is what my friend says, can any of you confirm this or give me your thoughts on how it feels?

i feel it every once in a while with my counterfeit arc10. i did feel it consistently the first few weeks i got it.

[HKChua]

the fake/counterfeit arc10 has the same shape as the real arc10. has anyone played using both? is there any huge differences?



i feel it every once in a while with my counterfeit arc10. i did feel it consistently the first few weeks i got it.

In China, there are experts who can build a Rolls Royce look alike, at less than 20% of the actual price.

Well... it looks like Rolls Royce, except.... running a Japanese engine...

Go figure out...

Thanks.

[CHOcobo]

too bad the real stuff cost too much huh. :p

[alex1210]

um.... i just have my ARC 10 today with string nanogy95 @ 24lbs!! hv to try tomorrow!!! previously own AT limited edition 1141/6000 and MP100!!!!

[malaikiat]

3u or 2u better? for this arc1..

[HKChua]

3u or 2u better? for this arc1..

Depends on your preference. If you prefer light rackets like NS9000S/X, then 3U is preferred. Else, 2U is better for offensive play.

Try out the racket before you purchase one. Personally, I love the racket so much because of the power it can generate. But... there are people who hate this racket, they said no power.

I have been using the Arc Saber 10 ever since I bought them (2 pcs). I sold all other rackets I was having; SOTX 11, AT-700 (Old Version), AT-900P...

Really! Try it out first! A man's meal may be another's poison.

Thanks.

[malaikiat]

why ppl say no power? i heard this racket have to string at high tension so can get the power right? this racket for wrist player or arm player? i got good wrist...

[HKChua]

why ppl say no power? i heard this racket have to string at high tension so can get the power right? this racket for wrist player or arm player? i got good wrist...

Well... then Arc Saber is for you! Go to Buy and Sell section... it is cheaper to get it from one of the BC members then to buy it new. A new one should cost aspprox. S$266/- or approx. RM600/-

Thanks.

[6 woods]

Well... then Arc Saber is for you! Go to Buy and Sell section... it is cheaper to get it from one of the BC members then to buy it new. A new one should cost aspprox. S$266/- or approx. RM600/-

Thanks.


Well, it got power..

My 3ug4 string NBG98 @ 26lb..
The shaft is stiff i found.
High clear just feel nothing and go all the way.

Still need to adject my timing.
I used to the AT900T 4ug4 and
I am still little off for smashing,
hope to get the adjustment soon.

but drop shot is nice, fast and tighter.

Overall, it is faster and power if you
can adjust with the timing. :)

[HKChua]

Well, it got power..

My 3ug4 string NBG98 @ 26lb..
The shaft is stiff i found.
High clear just feel nothing and go all the way.

Still need to adject my timing.
I used to the AT900T 4ug4 and
I am still little off for smashing,
hope to get the adjustment soon.

but drop shot is nice, fast and tighter.

Overall, it is faster and power if you
can adjust with the timing. :)

When come to smashing... the contact point is very crucial. If one were to hit the shuttle too fast, off course there is no power. The timing is slower compared to my previous AT-700 (Old model). I learnt to wait, wait and smash when using my Arc Saber 10 compared to AT-700.

Thanks.

[h4n5ip]

When come to smashing... the contact point is very crucial. If one were to hit the shuttle too fast, off course there is no power. The timing is slower compared to my previous AT-700 (Old model). I learnt to wait, wait and smash when using my Arc Saber 10 compared to AT-700.

Thanks.

I experience the same thing as you.
But now I can use this weapon to its max potential.

FYI I had removed the lead tape. I felt better without it tho.

Yes I agree it needs time to adjust to this AS10. But once you in, you'll love it.

[malaikiat]

this racket more power than at700?

[twobeer]

this racket more power than at700?

Bao more power than Lin Dan?

/Twobeer

[Dreamzz]

Bao more power than Lin Dan?

/Twobeer


definitely!
:D:D

[castaeperios]

wonder if AT 700 or Arc Saber 10. will do better in term of power.

not sure if some pros change it because yonex ask.

[6 woods]

wonder if AT 700 or Arc Saber 10. will do better in term of power.

not sure if some pros change it because yonex ask.

I guess if you are Lin Dan, YY won't change you.
But for any other players, $$$ from YY can
change anything.

(Note: The price $ only US$20k for 1st place on super tournaments.)

[SpendorK]

I experience the same thing as you.
But now I can use this weapon to its max potential.

FYI I had removed the lead tape. I felt better without it tho.

Yes I agree it needs time to adjust to this AS10. But once you in, you'll love it.


Yes, it's a powerful racket if you can adjust the smashing timing. :)

[dairyboichau]

Previous Racket: AT-900T 3UG4 /w BG68Ti @25lbs
Current Racket: Arcsaber 10 2UG5 /w BG80 @25lbs

First Impression:
Upon receiving the racket *thanks Dink ;)* it felt heavy... like really heavy. I was afraid that I was going to regret my purchase as I thought that I couldn't handle the weight. But reading reviews really wanted me to get a 2U to feel the powaaa :D.

Warm-ups:
After a couple of strokes this racket reaaaaally grew on me. Almost every shot was effortless and went to far back court. Vibrations were very minimal - i like :). The overall weight of the racket so far didn't seem to bother me but we'll soon see...

Game Play:
For some odd reason... I really feel that I move almost as fast as I did when I used the technique. Net play, clears, and drives were effortless. What's more, my weak backhand seem to improve as I was able to clear. Retrieving smashes were also very very easy as the shuttle just bounces off the strings. Smashes were... horrible for me at first *due to timing* but after a while got much better. I'm hoping to see the true powaaaa of the Arc10 within a month =].

Overall:
Power: 9.0
Defense: 9.5
Maneuverability: 9.5
Control: 9.0
Overall Feel: 9.5

[HKChua]

Previous Racket: AT-900T 3UG4 /w BG68Ti @25lbs
Current Racket: Arcsaber 10 2UG5 /w BG80 @25lbs

Overall:
Power: 9.0
Defense: 9.5
Maneuverability: 9.5
Control: 9.0
Overall Feel: 9.5

Well... glad you love the racket.

There are still many people who only want a racket for smashing...

Especially when playing doubles, recovering smashes from the opponents is one of the crucial factor in deciding your victory.... Arc Saber 10 is all rounded...

Thanks.

[LK117]

I went to my local badminton store the other day to get my hands on the new ArcSaber 10..........something i felt very strange, the G4 handle feels a lot bigger than Armortec G4 handle........is it just me? or u guy feel the same way

Thanks

[BennyC]

I went to my local badminton store the other day to get my hands on the new ArcSaber 10..........something i felt very strange, the G4 handle feels a lot bigger than Armortec G4 handle........is it just me? or u guy feel the same way

Thanks

yeah it feels a little wider =/..i had to take off the orginal grip, applied a thinner grip and then i applied my overgrip i use. But yeah...i definitely did not like how the grip size suddenly got bigger.. >.<

[Matt]

I went to my local badminton store the other day to get my hands on the new ArcSaber 10..........something i felt very strange, the G4 handle feels a lot bigger than Armortec G4 handle........is it just me? or u guy feel the same way

Thanks

The stock grip on the Arc Saber is a bit thicker. I personally like it since I'm using G5.

[Moggy]

I think some people have to stop letting placebo effects get to them :D its been said many times the Arc10 lacks some power, yet many people still try to convince themselves (and others) its a powerful racquet... Just because its the latest racquet (and a flaming red!) doesn't necessarily mean it has to be very powerful, the Arc10 is very manouverable, easy to swing and clear, and feels very nice for backhands because its easy to swing.

The Arc10 isn't a weak racquet, but compared to the likes of; AT700, AT900P, NS9000X, MP100, Ti10 (old), it doesn't come near these racquet's power. It is however probably one of the best trade off for power vs defense.

Personally i find the smashing power lacking, especially since i'm playing mixed doubles so much nowadays and smashing at almost anything above my head. I do however enjoy using it in singles, and in doubles where i won't be smashing much or where i'll be playing at the net. The Arc10 was also great for patronising my pretty partner when i returned like 50 consecutive smashes of hers from the service line right back to her position to smash it again. Of course as karma normally has it, she accidently whacked me in the head with my MP100 :D

[Pete LSD]

For uber power, try RSL X2 Gold :D:D:D.


I think some people have to stop letting placebo effects get to them :D its been said many times the Arc10 lacks some power, yet many people still try to convince themselves (and others) its a powerful racquet... Just because its the latest racquet (and a flaming red!) doesn't necessarily mean it has to be very powerful, the Arc10 is very manouverable, easy to swing and clear, and feels very nice for backhands because its easy to swing.

The Arc10 isn't a weak racquet, but compared to the likes of; AT700, AT900P, NS9000X, MP100, Ti10 (old), it doesn't come near these racquet's power. It is however probably one of the best trade off for power vs defense.

Personally i find the smashing power lacking, especially since i'm playing mixed doubles so much nowadays and smashing at almost anything above my head. I do however enjoy using it in singles, and in doubles where i won't be smashing much or where i'll be playing at the net. The Arc10 was also great for patronising my pretty partner when i returned like 50 consecutive smashes of hers from the service line right back to her position to smash it again. Of course as karma normally has it, she accidently whacked me in the head with my MP100 :D

[Matt]

Of course as karma normally has it, she accidently whacked me in the head with my MP100 :D

Was it accidently as in "acting" it ?! hehehe! Therefore meaning she did it on purpose for revenge! :D

I go for my Arc7 yeh as primary!!!!!!! :D Still like my Arc10 thou which I use from time to time.

[Moggy]

It was a real accident, i walked on court and my opponents cleared it towards me and she didn't know i was there, but i do wonder why she was swinging at my head height :D She's also used my Arc10 before and commented it felt less powerful than my AT900T, my Arc10 is strung with NBG98 at 25lbs, and AT900T with BG85 at 25lbs. I actually feel more power from my AT900T as well, i guess i'll try my best to snap the NGB98 while playing and restring it with BG85 for a better comparison.

How much would a RSL X2 Gold be in HK?

[Matt]

Moggy,

Try 25/27 on the NGB98 next time. I personally use 25.5/27.5 on both my Arc7 and 10s which I like.

I'm not sure about the RSL, however Pete would most likely know the answer to that.

[phandrew]

For me NBG98 at low tension doesn't feel right but at high it does. You can get the RSL X2 Gold for $165AUD in Australia.

[Moggy]

I'd love to string it higher but the stringers around melbourne aren't prepared to string beyond 25lbs. I was actually surprised the place i restring at didn't string to my request since the owner was an ex-national chinese player. Maybe next time i restring i'll ask if i can stand and watch them string it to the bloody tension i want :D

As much as i'd love to help boost australia's economy, i'm a poor student, my Arc10 and AT900T costed $165 AUD but from HK, so i guess i won't be buying a RSL X2 Gold here either :p

[Matt]

For me NBG98 at low tension doesn't feel right but at high it does. You can get the RSL X2 Gold for $165AUD in Australia.

Well you're not alone there !

[phandrew]

Franco if you ask Jacky he can string for you up to 30lbs. He did my woven 7 at 27lbs x 29lbs with no problem.

[malaikiat]

this racket power can reach at700 and at900p? cox im using at900p now...want to get another racket..dont know which one to choose..either at700 or arc10

[HKChua]

this racket power can reach at700 and at900p? cox im using at900p now...want to get another racket..dont know which one to choose..either at700 or arc10

Well... it is in the hands of the player...

Personally, I can generate more power than the AT-700. One thing for sure is that it has to be strung at high tension. I tried the Arc Saber at 24 x 24 LBS and 26 x 26LBS for a few weeks and was very disappointed with its performance. I had switched back to my usual 28 x 28LBS (constant pull) and has been happy ever after...

If you prefer head heavy rackets, add some lead strips on its frame, 8 cm at each side. Then... as you progress and get used to the racket, remove 2 cm each week. After a couple of weeks, you will be surprised that even without the leadstrips, you can still handle the Arc Saber like a AT-700...

Thanks.

[malaikiat]

Well... it is in the hands of the player...

Personally, I can generate more power than the AT-700. One thing for sure is that it has to be strung at high tension. I tried the Arc Saber at 24 x 24 LBS and 26 x 26LBS for a few weeks and was very disappointed with its performance. I had switched back to my usual 28 x 28LBS (constant pull) and has been happy ever after...

If you prefer head heavy rackets, add some lead strips on its frame, 8 cm at each side. Then... as you progress and get used to the racket, remove 2 cm each week. After a couple of weeks, you will be surprised that even without the leadstrips, you can still handle the Arc Saber like a AT-700...

Thanks.
so it must be strung at high tension? btw im using at900p at 25lbs constant pull....will 28lbs too much for me?

[Moggy]

this racket power can reach at700 and at900p? cox im using at900p now...want to get another racket..dont know which one to choose..either at700 or arc10

HKChua seems inclined on promoting the Arc10 as a powerful racquet as you should've picked up from most of his post in this thread. Maybe when yonex puts Arc10 on their charts you'll see, Arc10 will unlikely be anywhere near AT900P/MP100/NS9000X or even AT700 in terms of power. While Arc10 is not a weak racquet, its not a powerful smashing racquet either.

[Oldhand]

HKChua seems inclined on promoting the Arc10 as a powerful racquet as you should've picked up from most of his post in this thread. Maybe when yonex puts Arc10 on their charts you'll see, Arc10 will unlikely be anywhere near AT900P/MP100/NS9000X or even AT700 in terms of power. While Arc10 is not a weak racquet, its not a powerful smashing racquet either.
Bao Chunlai and Peter Gade aren't exactly the world's most powerful smashers but they seem happy with it.

However, Jung Jae-Sung can't be discounted - he is one of the most powerful smashers around ... and, yes, he is using the ArcSaber 10.

Personally, I'd rate the Arc 7 over the Arc 10.
But then, this is but an amateur's opinion :o

[HKChua]

HKChua seems inclined on promoting the Arc10 as a powerful racquet as you should've picked up from most of his post in this thread. Maybe when yonex puts Arc10 on their charts you'll see, Arc10 will unlikely be anywhere near AT900P/MP100/NS9000X or even AT700 in terms of power. While Arc10 is not a weak racquet, its not a powerful smashing racquet either.

Hi Moggy,

It is subjective and dependent on the user's style of play. When the racket is head heavy, it hinders you from swinging the racket at higher speed. With Arc Saber 10, since it is light, you generate more power by swinging at higher speed; by snapping it with your wrists...

Personally, I love AT-700. I had also tried the AT-700LTD last night. Well... it was more powerful only the few smashes. After that, it will get less powerful because head heaviness is quite demanding. Altogether, I had purchased 12 pcs of the AT-700 (old model) and 4 pcs of the new model. Many of my team members are still using the AT-700. And... they had tried to use my Arc Saber 10 because they feel that I can generate more power than them. But... most of them give up because they felt that it was not their piece of cake.

It is subjective, really...

Thanks.

[X_Ernest]

I'd love to string it higher but the stringers around melbourne aren't prepared to string beyond 25lbs. I was actually surprised the place i restring at didn't string to my request since the owner was an ex-national chinese player. Maybe next time i restring i'll ask if i can stand and watch them string it to the bloody tension i want :D

As much as i'd love to help boost australia's economy, i'm a poor student, my Arc10 and AT900T costed $165 AUD but from HK, so i guess i won't be buying a RSL X2 Gold here either :p

Moggy, did you try getting it strung at Box Hill? Because they just strung my racket to 28lbs, but it was an apacs one which said 29lbs tension limit. I think my friend got his AT900P strung at 26lbs there too.

[Pete LSD]

Moggy,

Not happy with Arc Saber 10? Try RSL X2 Gold :D:D:D.

[Moggy]

Hmmm well i asked the stringer to string it to 27lbs at box hill, but it the sound is clearly lower pitched than another racquet strung at 25lbs with the same string.

Its not so much i don't like the Arc10, the balance point is very similar to the MP100 which i've been using, and the power is obviously lower on the Arc10. I guess the problem is we play doubles too much here, smash power seems more important than manouverbility :D. As i said its still a powerful racquet, but misses that little "omph" of the better known smashing racquets :o

u haven't told me how much is the RSL X2 Gold in HK :D

[phandrew]

Hmmm well i asked the stringer to string it to 27lbs at box hill, but it the sound is clearly lower pitched than another racquet strung at 25lbs with the same string.

Its not so much i don't like the Arc10, the balance point is very similar to the MP100 which i've been using, and the power is obviously lower on the Arc10. I guess the problem is we play doubles too much here, smash power seems more important than manouverbility :D. As i said its still a powerful racquet, but misses that little "omph" of the better known smashing racquets :o

u haven't told me how much is the RSL X2 Gold in HK :D

Ask Jacky to string your racket at high tension. He did mine at 28lbs with no problem

[Moggy]

when my strings snaps hahaha, its not so bad that i have to cut them, anyway i'm poor :(

[drifit]

Personally, I'd rate the Arc 7 over the Arc 10.
But then, this is but an amateur's opinion :o
Arc 7 is more forgiving than Arc 10. all rounder and easy to handle in all type of situations.

Moggy,

Not happy with Arc Saber 10? Try RSL X2 Gold :D:D:D.
:cool:
Gold again...?

shall Pete create a thread for RSL X2 Gold review and vs all other rackets?
predator vs everything :D:D:D

[Pete LSD]

I got dinked carry away. :o


Arc 7 is more forgiving than Arc 10. all rounder and easy to handle in all type of situations.

:cool:
Gold again...?

shall Pete create a thread for RSL X2 Gold review and vs all other rackets?
predator vs everything :D:D:D

[HKChua]

Hmmm well i asked the stringer to string it to 27lbs at box hill, but it the sound is clearly lower pitched than another racquet strung at 25lbs with the same string.

Its not so much i don't like the Arc10, the balance point is very similar to the MP100 which i've been using, and the power is obviously lower on the Arc10. I guess the problem is we play doubles too much here, smash power seems more important than manouverbility :D. As i said its still a powerful racquet, but misses that little "omph" of the better known smashing racquets :o

u haven't told me how much is the RSL X2 Gold in HK :D

Try to delay your current timing by 'a bit' and hit the shuttle when it is closer to you, you will get the "omph" you want.

Thanks.

[SpendorK]

Try to delay your current timing by 'a bit' and hit the shuttle when it is closer to you, you will get the "omph" you want.

Thanks.


Yes, the timing issue.

[ants]

Hi Moggy,

Personally, I love AT-700. I had also tried the AT-700LTD last night. Well... it was more powerful only the few smashes. After that, it will get less powerful because head heaviness is quite demanding.

Thanks.

Less powerful because you are tired already. :) But its true, At700 is a demanding racket if most of you who are not used to it.

[h4n5ip]

Hey guys Arch saberes.
I am thinking to string with Nbg98 or Bg 66 sharp on my next string.
any of you guys have tried those 2 strings on Arc10?
I am looking mostly on power/repulsion.
pls share your opinion. Currently my string is 65ti at 27-29lbs.

[HKChua]

Hey guys Arch saberes.
I am thinking to string with Nbg98 or Bg 66 sharp on my next string.
any of you guys have tried those 2 strings on Arc10?
I am looking mostly on power/repulsion.
pls share your opinion. Currently my string is 65ti at 27-29lbs.

I am using BG66S with my Arc 10 strung at 28LBS X 28LBS (Electronic Constant Pull). Don't worry that the frame will break, this frame seems to be the strongest I ever come across...

If you like head heaviness, add some lead strips on the frame... 4 cm at 12 O'Clock at both sides of the frame. Then 2cm at both ends of the 4cm strip, do it on both sides. Total you have 8cm on each side, making it 16cm.

With BG66S, 28LBS X 28LBS, and 8cm of lead strips at each side. I assure you it is certainly more powerful than the AT-700. 'Because I am a player too!!' :D

Thanks.

[phandrew]

Hey guys Arch saberes.
I am thinking to string with Nbg98 or Bg 66 sharp on my next string.
any of you guys have tried those 2 strings on Arc10?
I am looking mostly on power/repulsion.
pls share your opinion. Currently my string is 65ti at 27-29lbs.

You might as well get NBG98 out of the 2 because it performs better and cost the same.

[HKChua]

You might as well get NBG98 out of the 2 because it performs better and cost the same.

In some location, the NBG98 is not available...

[Oldhand]

Sealman and phandrew, thanks for suggesting it.
All that 'lead tape' has been moved to the relevant thread (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54379).

[Pete LSD]

Yeap, this thread is free from lead contamination :D.


Sealman and phandrew, thanks for suggesting it.
All that 'lead tape' has been moved to the relevant thread (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54379).

[malaikiat]

i bought arc10 3ug5....bg65ti 27lbs

i tried the racket twice. The first time was on tuesday where my training campaign held. First impression was good, easier to smash and control if compared with at900P. Drop and net also easier than at900p. Power wise.

However, on the next day, i took the racket out from my bag and it hits my keychain. The string broke!! then i restring it with bg65 27lbs. I cant get the same feeling as bg65ti. Can anyone explain to me? bg65 suck and bg65ti good?

[HKChua]

i bought arc10 3ug5....bg65ti 27lbs

i tried the racket twice. The first time was on tuesday where my training campaign held. First impression was good, easier to smash and control if compared with at900P. Drop and net also easier than at900p. Power wise.

However, on the next day, i took the racket out from my bag and it hits my keychain. The string broke!! then i restring it with bg65 27lbs. I cant get the same feeling as bg65ti. Can anyone explain to me? bg65 suck and bg65ti good?

May be your tension is too high for BG65, try 26LBS instead.

Or... try BG66 at 27LBS X 27LBS...

Thanks.

[phandrew]

i bought arc10 3ug5....bg65ti 27lbs

i tried the racket twice. The first time was on tuesday where my training campaign held. First impression was good, easier to smash and control if compared with at900P. Drop and net also easier than at900p. Power wise.

However, on the next day, i took the racket out from my bag and it hits my keychain. The string broke!! then i restring it with bg65 27lbs. I cant get the same feeling as bg65ti. Can anyone explain to me? bg65 suck and bg65ti good?

BG65Ti has a hard feeling while BG65 has a soft feeling so the difference is a lot.

[malaikiat]

bg65ti 27lbs just perfect for me...good control and power...but bg65, -.-

[Notnimdab729]

Hi guys,
I personally will prefer YY BG 80 at 27 lbs. Smash,clear, drive and lob.....all effortless. Good feeling.:p
Lee:D

bg65ti 27lbs just perfect for me...good control and power...but bg65, -.-

[phandrew]

Hi guys,
I personally will prefer YY BG 80 at 27 lbs. Smash,clear, drive and lob.....all effortless. Good feeling.:p
Lee:D

I personally prefer NBG98 at 28lbs. Pure power

[sifuyono]

for pure power only, i still choose bg-65ti @25lbs or bg-80 or nbg-98 at 24lbs...
but play badminton isn't just about power...
so my tension could be different

[malaikiat]

you should have try higher tension..even ppl say higher tension less control, but for me arc10 higher tension feel better...

[nipoy]

higher tension = more control
lower tension = less control

why don't you try using thinner strings like BG66 or BG80 in higher tension. this might actually give you a better feel. ^_^

[sifuyono]

you should have try higher tension..even ppl say higher tension less control, but for me arc10 higher tension feel better...

how high????...........

[chinesenie]

Great , nice one ! But I've just got Arcsaber 7
I start to regret why I hadn't bought this one ^^^

[malaikiat]

how high????...........
at least 27lbs above....

ill try use bg80 27lbs when i restring...then i can give some review for bg65ti bg65 bg66 and bg80 on arc10...

[Persson]

I will recommend bg66 strung at 13-14kilograms for this racket but i am a stringer myself so maybe it isnt a good idea for people who has to pay a big amount of money for this string because it will break if you misshit semi-hard :D. You should use bg80 if you dont string yourself it is almost as good as bg66. For all you pussies using lead-tape...get some technique :D

Peter Gade BOLEH !

[Matt]

Use pounds please, not kilos!! :D

[Pete LSD]

Try 15 kg X 16 kg :D

[sifuyono]

at least 27lbs above....

ill try use bg80 27lbs when i restring...then i can give some review for bg65ti bg65 bg66 and bg80 on arc10...

in the past time i usually done it at 30lbs ++:)
so i already try anything, it's nice tension too

[CarbonexFan]

Use pounds please, not kilos!! :D

1 kg = 2.2 pounds
x2 and add 10%.

[HKChua]

1 kg = 2.2 pounds
x2 and add 10%.

1 kg = 2.2046 pounds

[Matt]

I knew that, but just for consistancy.

[HKChua]

I knew that, but just for consistancy.

Yes, fully agreed.

[CarbonexFan]

1 kg = 2.2046 pounds

I want to see a stringing machine doing that! And it's just for easy calculation without using a calculator. It's just a coincident that the Euro converting to Dutch Guilders is about the same.

[HKChua]

I want to see a stringing machine doing that! And it's just for easy calculation without using a calculator. It's just a coincident that the Euro converting to Dutch Guilders is about the same.

That's why standardized in LBS...

Thanks.

[Persson]

Well my machine only uses kilograms so google away :p

[stjsx]

hey theres been alot of confusion on arcsaber 10's power. could you, having used ns9000X and at900power, compare the smash speed of these 3 rackets??

[phandrew]

hey theres been alot of confusion on arcsaber 10's power. could you, having used ns9000X and at900power, compare the smash speed of these 3 rackets??

For me NS9000X and AT900P have the same amount of power while ARC10 has less power for me.

[Pete LSD]

Yeap, the amount of power channeled into the bird depends entirely on the user of the rackets.


For me NS9000X and AT900P have the same amount of power while ARC10 has less power for me.

[helloworld]

Yeap, the amount of power channeled into the bird depends entirely on the user of the rackets.
If so, there should be one kind of racket, shouldn't be ?

I have not used Nano 9x yet, but for me, AT900P > Arc saber 10 due to heavy head of AT900P

[Burger_King]

I just put naogy98 26pounds to make up for power.

[stjsx]

hey guys thks for your response, those who have used those rackets, isit through that when playing with ns9000X and arcsaber 10 you cant really feel anything, as in coz of the shock absoorbtion?
as for the smash speed, im talking bout speed not power, someone ever mentioned that fu haifang would have created a new smash speed record if he switches to arcsaber 10. so could you guys kindly reply again. mayb this time comparing at700 and at900 tecnique.
thks so much.

[stjsx]

srry guys, just to amend a confusing statement in my post. i would like you guys to compare arcsaber 10 with ns9000x, armortec 900 power and tecnique and at700 in terms of smash speed and feel. pls read the above post with more details.
thks alot guys

[phandrew]

in terms of speed: AT900T>NS9000,ARC10>AT700,AT900P

The feel isn't due to the racket but the string you use.

[Athelete1234]

srry guys, just to amend a confusing statement in my post. i would like you guys to compare arcsaber 10 with ns9000x, armortec 900 power and tecnique and at700 in terms of smash speed and feel. pls read the above post with more details.
thks alot guys
Do you mean smash speed (how fast bird goes) or racquet speed (how fast racquet is)???


in terms of speed: AT900T>NS9000,ARC10>AT700,AT900P

The feel isn't due to the racket but the string you use.
If you mean racquet head speed, Phandrew is right. If you mean smash speed, then it's more like

AT700>AT900P>NS9000X>AT900T>ARC10 (I'm guessing here a bit)

[stjsx]

hey guys, im refering to smash speed as in how fast the shuttle goes.
in terms of feel, its due to the shock absorption like cs cap.
so for those who have used arcsaber 10, could you comment on the feel as some have said that they cant feel anything when they hit the shuttle.
as for smash speed i would like to find out the speed of the shuttle movement, in compraison with at900power, technique, at700 and ns9000x. does at700 really produce greater smash speed than at900power??
thks in anticipation of your replies.

[skunklover]

i agree with athlete on the smash speed order.
as for the feel, i think its more due to the string, although the racket does have effect.
use BG66 for feel.
but yes, racket has a small part, and ARC10 has great feel, along with 9kx

[issarakaya]

@athelete1234
no need guess not even a bit, you're absolutely right :D
@stjsx
your answer has been answered by @athelete and @skunk but i find Arc 10 is more precise in smash placing and also very sharp, even the power isnt as great as other it still can kill and make point :D

[stjsx]

thks again for your responses. i recall someone ever saying that arcsaber 10's smash speed can match at700 once you get used to it. and theres also the controversy about higher tension and stuff.
so could you guys comment on that coz arcsaber 10 is an excellent racket but the power issue is bothering me.
in addition you guys sure that at700 smash speed is faster than at900power?? i mean with additional elastic ti thing many have mentioned of it supreme raw power. so im a bit confused.

[Terraglow]

Errrr...
May i know what is the best tension that suits Arc 10 ?

[HKChua]

thks again for your responses. i recall someone ever saying that arcsaber 10's smash speed can match at700 once you get used to it. and theres also the controversy about higher tension and stuff.
so could you guys comment on that coz arcsaber 10 is an excellent racket but the power issue is bothering me.
in addition you guys sure that at700 smash speed is faster than at900power?? i mean with additional elastic ti thing many have mentioned of it supreme raw power. so im a bit confused.

I am using Arc Saber 10 at 28LBS X 28LBS BG66.

Well... to prove my point, I purchased one of the used AT-700 from my team members. Currently, I am having 2 pcs of the Arc Saber 10 and 1 pc of the AT-700 old model.

Still prefer the Arc Saber 10.

Thanks.

[phandrew]

Errrr...
May i know what is the best tension that suits Arc 10 ?

Tension depends on you not our recommendation. Just play at your previous tension.

[Terraglow]

Tension depends on you not our recommendation. Just play at your previous tension.



OK.. thanks....:)
I will still stick to 22 lbs..

[skunklover]

thks again for your responses. i recall someone ever saying that arcsaber 10's smash speed can match at700 once you get used to it. and theres also the controversy about higher tension and stuff.
so could you guys comment on that coz arcsaber 10 is an excellent racket but the power issue is bothering me.
in addition you guys sure that at700 smash speed is faster than at900power?? i mean with additional elastic ti thing many have mentioned of it supreme raw power. so im a bit confused.

i can't say about th 700 vs 900P, but i will say that the arc 10 has sufficient power for me. i never was a very smash based player, but when i do smash, this racket has the power there.
i would overall say that if you have a decent smash already, then don't worry about it.
the Arc10 is like the AT900T with more control

[stjsx]

hey HKChua, youre the guy who says that acrsaber 10 has equal power as at700. so in terms of smash speed which would you say is superior??
have you used the at900power, if you had could you compare it as well.

hey could anyone judge which of these 3 rackets is most suitable for doubles play??

[Jay Tseng]

i think the second picture is what i saw...the colour of the first 1 looks like arcsaber 7

[phandrew]

hey HKChua, youre the guy who says that acrsaber 10 has equal power as at700. so in terms of smash speed which would you say is superior??
have you used the at900power, if you had could you compare it as well.

hey could anyone judge which of these 3 rackets is most suitable for doubles play??

For me ARC10 has less power than AT700

[bugjan72]

I am using Arc Saber 10 at 28LBS X 28LBS BG66.

Well... to prove my point, I purchased one of the used AT-700 from my team members. Currently, I am having 2 pcs of the Arc Saber 10 and 1 pc of the AT-700 old model.

Still prefer the Arc Saber 10.

Thanks.

have you ever compared Arc Saber-10 with Ti-10 and MP100?
I'm collecting some information to buy new 'weapon'. MP-99 was my last collection (back to 2002).

[stefanosx]

Hi, I am using a900t now but i am thinking to switch at arc10.

My playing style, is offencive with drops, smash, drive and a lot of net play, but i want a racket to be good and in defence. a900t is very good but i want to try and something else.

arc10 will be better than a900t or i should stay in a900t??

[phandrew]

Hi, I am using a900t now but i am thinking to switch at arc10.

My playing style, is offencive with drops, smash, drive and a lot of net play, but i want a racket to be good and in defence. a900t is very good but i want to try and something else.

arc10 will be better than a900t or i should stay in a900t??

I say stick with the AT900T.

[Gemcat]

Hi, I am using a900t now but i am thinking to switch at arc10.

My playing style, is offencive with drops, smash, drive and a lot of net play, but i want a racket to be good and in defence. a900t is very good but i want to try and something else.

arc10 will be better than a900t or i should stay in a900t??

Really depends on how you feel about them. I believe you can try ArcSaber 10 before consider buying it.

My next racquet will be a AT900T though~ :D

[nipoy]

Ei guys, I am an AT900T 3U user, well I guess that was b4 until last week, and I was wondering how is it going to be if I switched to ARC10. I loved my AT900T but I think its way too fragile, the frame just snap after hitting it with a smash. The shot was even a solid hit not a miss hit by the frame, they say it was because I was stringing it to tight @ 27X29lbs, I dunno. and btw the racket was just 2 months old, or is it BAD LUCK?

[Matt]

Ei guys, I am an AT900T 3U user, well I guess that was b4 until last week, and I was wondering how is it going to be if I switched to ARC10. I loved my AT900T but I think its way too fragile, the frame just snap after hitting it with a smash. The shot was even a solid hit not a miss hit by the frame, they say it was because I was stringing it to tight @ 27X29lbs, I dunno. and btw the racket was just 2 months old, or is it BAD LUCK?

Also could be a stringer error such that the racket could of been damaged.

[Moggy]

I have a 2U/3U MP100, 3U MP88, 3U AT900T, and 3U Arc10, i've used someone's AT900P before. I can assure u, for any non professional players Arc10's power is only comparable to AT900T. The ease of smashing and clearing with MP100/AT900P far exceeds Arc10 for the average social player. But as far as manouverability goes, Arc10 is very similar to AT900T, and it does have decent power, just nothing amazing. If you like smashing like no tomorrow, Arc10 will never cut it for you, but its a very good overall racquet.

[teoky]

I have ARC10, MP100 and Ti10 (1st gen) and in my opinion the ARC10 is definitely an all round racquet. MP100 is also an all round racquet, but as mine is 2U, manouverability is not as good as my 3U ARC10.

The Ti10 on the other hand is an offensive racquet and I find it tedious to use it for a long time.

[Sealman]

The Ti10 on the other hand is an offensive racquet and I find it tedious to use it for a long time.

Would you like to sell your 1st gen Ti10 to me? :D

[nipoy]

@Moggy - Thanks for the advice, I just thought that ARC10 would be better since TH also switched to ARC10. But I think it didn't go so well for TH too. ^_^

[Terraglow]

Arc10 speciality is only in defensive speed and faster swing speed at smashing. It has the slimmest shaft among other racket since it use the Ultra PEF. And it also use Hybird of CS carbon Nanotube and Super HMG for the frame. Those strong material makes the racket slim and manuoverable.

[Arcsaber]

Any one has paint chips on their arc saber?
or find the quality of the arc saber quite bad?

[Terraglow]

I found that arcsaber coating is good. i have 1 paint chips on mine, but because i accidentally hit my cupboard with it. but so far no other paint chip on my racket.

[Gemcat]

Any one has paint chips on their arc saber?
or find the quality of the arc saber quite bad?

Actually...I find the paint job on Arc 10 is quite bad. I found holes on the frame top....for some reason.....no clash or anything....

[nanteos]

well for me it varies because im on my 2nd one now. the 1st 1 chipped really easily like if i framed the shot a chip of paint would come off. But so far i only have one paint chip but that was because of a pretty big clash.

[h4n5ip]

well... for me it is consider a very good quality of part and finishing.
had a big clash, but only small paint chip.

[Burger_King]

I had a small clash, and mine broke.

[Arcsaber]

My first arcsaber had a chip @ the carbon nano tube after trying it out the first time.

My second, has a small red paint chip near the 6 O clock mach.

Is it me, or does the arc saber has "small holes" or "craters" on the frame itself? but they are painted over with paint?

[alexkho]

for me i think it's more of a singles racket .. i use to for singles only ...

[Arcsaber]

more for controlled play - it offers real good control

[drifterXL]

just a quick question, what is the balance of the racket? in 3UG4 trim. if there is a page in this thread that already states that, could someone tell me the page please? thanks.

[Arcsaber]

how would u rate the stiffness of arcsaber10 out of /10

it's subjective. it's flex yet stiff..
8 out of 10.

[Matt]

Actually...I find the paint job on Arc 10 is quite bad. I found holes on the frame top....for some reason.....no clash or anything....

Were you scooping shuttles off the ground using your racket?

[GunBlade008]

Arc 7/10 seems to be a strong replacement for the much beloved MP series..

[Arcsaber]

What's your playing style?

From the sound of you using a MP, i don't think that the arcs are suited to your smashing playing method.

[Terraglow]

Arc is all rounder racket. Average in everything....

[alexkho]

Alot of people use this racker for few hit and already give feedback that it does not have feeling . I am not a bealiver if hit for a few shot you tell you the whole story about the arc saber 10 ....when first i use it .. i do hate it ... i feel it's does not give any feedback at all... but i tell mysefl . impossible yonex come out with such a crappy racket... so i keep on using it ... a week has pass ... i geting more more liking this racket.... it really take time to get the feel of the racket .... for the arc saber series....

next i will try the pink ARC saber 9 haahah hope i will test it soon !!!

[Matt]

Alexkho,

I am a super strong believer that a few hits give feedback muahhahhhaha! j/k

Yeah, people need to use the racket for a little while for it to go through the break-in peroid before they notice how the racket actually performs. I remember this for my ARC7 where I played it for the first hour and didn't like it because it felt like there was not any power comming out of it even thou there was very good control. After a while during the second hour, the power began to come in then I started to like the racket.

[Arcsaber]

I liked the Arcsaber after my first encounter using it. One can actually tell @ the first few shots that, hey, this is not the right racket for you.

It might be due to my playing style being so similar to what the arc is meant to serve for and i fell in love with it at first sight

[Terraglow]

at first it doesnt give much satisfaction of hitting...
after i use it for 1 week
the feeling is much better...

it gives hard and controlled shots....

[Arcsaber]

at first, it felt as though there were alot of vibrations. quite bad..after that, much of them were gone and it plays real well

[Arcsaber]

Terraglow, selemat hari raya to you.

[Terraglow]

u too... thanks...

actually i am indonesian chinese...
hehehe

[alexkho]

i feel the head of the racket is super fast ... faster than TI10 ... .well i fully conveted ... it's my singles racket now .... but i play crappy single ...

my average score is 10-21 .. losing that is ...

[Terraglow]

try to play slow speed shot as well ...
drops a lot in singles....
n smash when it is necessary....

[Arcsaber]

Make good use of the control of the racket (since it has real good control and def) and use it to play your game, slow the ball down like terraglow has said and well, play long and shot balls, in a random pattern and in a random direction and try different combinations like sudden drops, or smashes ect.

This way, your opponent has no means of predicting your moves. If he is able to play fast and return your smashes, change your tactic to one that is more slow paced. The Arc10 is able to do it real well. This would make him impatient and he would make mistakes if he wishes to kill you fast. further more, when you play slow, you have more time to react if your other party smashes and you can return the shots more easily.

just my 2 cents worth though =x

[alexkho]

thanks guy ... for the advice i been trying to play slow ... but i late the idea to make usre the racket to swing slow .. it seem i always in a face pace game ... any idea on how to slow the game time . slower swing ? wait before i serve ? is that all i can do ?

sorry for being off topic .. but i do need to know this... Thanks everyone.

[phandrew]

thanks guy ... for the advice i been trying to play slow ... but i late the idea to make usre the racket to swing slow .. it seem i always in a face pace game ... any idea on how to slow the game time . slower swing ? wait before i serve ? is that all i can do ?

sorry for being off topic .. but i do need to know this... Thanks everyone.

You can try clearing or drop shots more.

[alexkho]

i try doing that .... and just get smash ... on the side line .. and i just can't return a powerful smash to the side .. that is why i always end up playing a face pace game.

my co-player just say i am totaly in cosistent ... can't play a good set of badminton game


stress me out.

now i am totaly converted to arc saber 10 for single it does help but ...... the problem is not the racket .. is me ...

[weeyeh]

thanks guy ... for the advice i been trying to play slow ... but i late the idea to make usre the racket to swing slow .. it seem i always in a face pace game ... any idea on how to slow the game time . slower swing ? wait before i serve ? is that all i can do ?


Further to phandrew's suggestion, remember that the aim in a slower pace singles game is to stretch your opponent's movements. Offensive (low) clears and fast drops to alternate corners stretches the reach the most but concentric shots like a few successive clears to the same corner stresses the movements the most. You will choose to do either one depending on the opponent's relative strength. You may also do some probing smashes to either sidelines just to move your opponent.

The key is not to rush in with any serious offensive strokes like the heavy smash until you are ahead in the rally. At the same time, introduce some deceptive shots to slow your opponent down especially when you can get to the shot early.

[weeyeh]

i try doing that .... and just get smash ... on the side line .. and i just can't return a powerful smash to the side .. that is why i always end up playing a face pace game.

my co-player just say i am totaly in cosistent ... can't play a good set of badminton game


stress me out.

now i am totaly converted to arc saber 10 for single it does help but ...... the problem is not the racket .. is me ...

That'll mean that you have fast reactions and probably tonnes of stamina but your stroke accuracy needs some work. Try to make sure you can consistently clear to the deep corners. Also notice where your opponent is returning your shots from.. If he's cutting off your shots in the middle court, you'll need to lob higher and/or deeper.

It's not always possible to return smashes down the tramplines, especially if those smashes are coming down hard from mid-court. So the best defense is to make sure you are pushing the opponent to the court limits and not give them too much time. Bias your defense if you are not already doing so. A down the line smash is always steeper and faster than a cross court so you'll need to be able to reach the straight smash faster shifting your base nearer.

Lastly, the best person to talk to after losing a game is the opponent who just defeated you (IMHO). Pick a few more recent rallies that he won and discuss the specifics with him. Most opponents will be most happy to share why they won.

[kimdongmoon]

That'll mean that you have fast reactions and probably tonnes of stamina but your stroke accuracy needs some work. Try to make sure you can consistently clear to the deep corners. Also notice where your opponent is returning your shots from.. If he's cutting off your shots in the middle court, you'll need to lob higher and/or deeper.

It's not always possible to return smashes down the tramplines, especially if those smashes are coming down hard from mid-court. So the best defense is to make sure you are pushing the opponent to the court limits and not give them too much time. Bias your defense if you are not already doing so. A down the line smash is always steeper and faster than a cross court so you'll need to be able to reach the straight smash faster shifting your base nearer.

Lastly, the best person to talk to after losing a game is the opponent who just defeated you (IMHO). Pick a few more recent rallies that he won and discuss the specifics with him. Most opponents will be most happy to share why they won.

yeah ...I agree. Talk to your opponent who defeated you. As I m more than willing to share if somebody ask why they lose. But as you know, I also encounter some people who is quite arrogant, unwilling to share their winning point with their opponents. Think that they are the only one who keep the secret recipe hehehe......

[SpendorK]

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[baihaki_as]

don't like it arc saber 10 i'm regret buying this

[Arcsaber]

don't like it arc saber 10 i'm regret buying this
Why do you regret buying the arcsaber?

[nipoy]

Taufik just won Macau Open 2008 MS Gold with his new ARC10. ^^, COOooooL!

[Athelete1234]

i just tried the ARC10 for a bit....you can feel the frame bending...totally weird, but it plays really well.

[Terraglow]

bending ?????
Arc 10 considered as stiff racket....
maybe it is the flex of the string
:)

[Athelete1234]

Noo....definately the frame. Not even the shaft too..must be that ARC saber flexible frame technology or something..

[Terraglow]

i think the frame is stiff...... and it is not flexible.
you can see the spec at http://www.yonex.com/badminton/racquets/arcsaber.html

[Notnimdab729]

Hi baihaki,
Why u dont like this racket? Is it too light? Or is it too stiff for u? Or u dont find it good for smashing? It is a lovely racket and easy to use. Easy for clear n lob. Add abit of lead tape on the frame n u will find smashing become more powerful.;) Well, if u intend to sell or trade, I think there will be someone who will be glad to buy or trade.:p
Lee:D

don't like it arc saber 10 i'm regret buying this

[Athelete1234]

i think the frame is stiff...... and it is not flexible.
you can see the spec at http://www.yonex.com/badminton/racquets/arcsaber.html
That's the shaft stiffness...not frame stiffness.

[Carbonlist]

omg. broke an arcsaber 7 and 10. a mishit and the frames deformed like mad. they were strung with bg 80 at 26 lbs. i'd stay with armortec if you're a doubles player or if you mishit every now and then. i'm hating this arcsaber series...cost me a fortune already.

[teoky]

How many times did you mishit ?

If it is frequent, then it is a matter of time before the frame cracked and deformed, but if it is only that once, either there's some defeats or your mishit is really really hard !

[Gold-]

anybody know the difference between arc10 and nano9000S i am keen on buying them want to know what the difference is

[maa2003]

anybody know the difference between arc10 and nano9000S i am keen on buying them want to know what the difference is

boss, you had better go to shop and see those rackets if you are keen to buy it.

or visit Yonex website for more info.

[stjsx]

hey all, i have decided on purchasing the arcsaber 10. for more power im gonna get the 2u version. however i have been using 3u rackets all my life. so could anyone suggest how a 2u would affect my game(if in anyway at all)??

[Notnimdab729]

Hi Gold,
Arc Saber 10 is a very unique racket, clearing n lobbing are effortless. Smashing is more powerful if u add some lead tape on the racket 's head. As for NS 9K s, it is fast in swing but not as powerful as NS 9K X. Depend on yr playing style, U may choose NS 9K S if u a control player, NS 9K X if offensive player. Still I prefer Arc Saber 10, as it is a very unique racket with good swing n good smashing power if u add some lead tape on it.:p U must try to love it.;)
Lee:D

anybody know the difference between arc10 and nano9000S i am keen on buying them want to know what the difference is

[Gold-]

ty notnimdab729, by the way is the arcsaber 10 more durable and stiffer then the nanospeed9000S?. cus i dun wish to spend alot money and break that racquet in my game

[HKChua]

ty notnimdab729, by the way is the arcsaber 10 more durable and stiffer then the nanospeed9000S?. cus i dun wish to spend alot money and break that racquet in my game

Arc Saber 10 is tough... Don't worry.

But... don't hit the ceiling...

Thanks.

[Gold-]

sorry 1 last question which 1 more stiff arc10 or nanospeed9000S

[HKChua]

sorry 1 last question which 1 more stiff arc10 or nanospeed9000S

If you are using Nanospeed 8000, switching to Arc Saber 10 should be quite comfortable. Nanospeed 9000 has its own edge, make sure you try wielding the Arc Saber 10 before getting one... Arc Saber 10, you either love it or hate it...

Thanks.

[Gold-]

sry but i just wanan know arcsaber 10 and nanospeed 9000S stiffness same or which 1 more stiffer

[soccer613]

I think ARC10 stiffer than NS9000S
It might be the same as NS9000X. But it is way easy to play with. Clear + Drive + Push: easy; Smash: need to adjust a little bit. Overall: Excellent:):):):):)
It is just my 2 cents

[HKChua]

sry but i just wanan know arcsaber 10 and nanospeed 9000S stiffness same or which 1 more stiffer

Nanospeed 9000S is more stiff.... my point of view may be different.

Thanks.

[Gold-]

ok thank u for ur advise

[Willi@m]

You guys really make my eyes & neck stiff to this thread.
Gold-: Is your name coincidentally to be Steve too ? hahahha....jk jk

Would say ARC10 a tad stiffer than N9K-S, N9K-S felt to be stiff coz of its head-light(?). N9K-X stiffness could be on par then.

[Burger_King]

I feel that the arcsaber 10 is a tad stiffer then the nanospeed 9000 type s.

[Gemcat]

According to the Official Yonex catalogue, ArcSaber 10 is just a wee-bit stiffer than Nanospeed 9000S, and 9000X is way more stiffer than Arc10. Besides, who cares about stiffness, if you think the racquet suits you, you use it.

[HKChua]

Nanospeed 9000S is more stiff.... my point of view may be different.

Thanks.

Sorry... checked my teammate's racket, it should be Nanospeed 9000X... is more stiff.

Thanks.

[Gold-]

this means that arc10 is alot stiffer then nanospeed9000S

[HKChua]

this means that arc10 is alot stiffer then nanospeed9000S

Cannot comment as I only tried the Nanospeed9000X.

Thanks.

[jymbalaya]

uh, no one said that. NS9000X is extremely stiff IMO
but that doesn't mean that the Arc saber is stiffer than the NS9000S.i find that the ARC10 isnt as stiff as the NS9000S either, but just a little.

[Notnimdab729]

Hi jymbalaya/Gold,
Right......NS9K X is much more stiffer than Arc Saber 10.;) In fact NS9K X is as stiff as RSL X2 Gold. I think RSL X2 Gold is head heavy than NS 9K X:eek:. Still I think Arc Saber 10 is a very good racket effortless for clear n lob.:p. Smashing is pretty good n powerful if u add abit lead tape on the top frame.
U got to try it out yrself to make a subjective judgement.:D
Lee:D

uh, no one said that. NS9000X is extremely stiff IMO
but that doesn't mean that the Arc saber is stiffer than the NS9000S.i find that the ARC10 isnt as stiff as the NS9000S either, but just a little.

[Terraglow]

without lead tape, it is already powerful :D:D:D\

i recommend to use PU super grip on Arc 10.
i wrap my 3UG4 Arc 10 with Gosen PU super grip.
it really generates power for me.....

[stefanosx]

would u compare arc10 and ti-10(purple).

[stjsx]

hey all, i have decided on purchasing the arcsaber 10. for more power im gonna get the 2u version. however i have been using 3u rackets all my life. so could anyone suggest how a 2u would affect my game(if in anyway at all)??

[ryim_]

hey all, i have decided on purchasing the arcsaber 10. for more power im gonna get the 2u version. however i have been using 3u rackets all my life. so could anyone suggest how a 2u would affect my game(if in anyway at all)??

Your defence and timing of shots could be affected since the racquet is heavier (2U vs 3U)

[Fengwei]

hey all, i have decided on purchasing the arcsaber 10. for more power im gonna get the 2u version. however i have been using 3u rackets all my life. so could anyone suggest how a 2u would affect my game(if in anyway at all)??


You need to watch out for the weight of the racket. I had the same problem when I changed from a 3U Yonex NS7700 to a extreme 2U SOTX Woven 4A (102 grams after gripping, etc). First few weeks it was a hell. The extra weight of the 2U caused my arm to get tired and all my strokes were off-timed. I sometimes even had to relax a few days before being able to make full use of my arm.

BUT after you get used to the weight, it's wicked! The feeling of hitting the shuttle with a racket which has so much mass feels too good to describe. You'll love that, and the power which comes with a 2U.

If you are willing to make this sacrifice of adapting to a 2U, it's only going to be positive!

[soccer613]

Hi Gold,

I did try both AT9000S/X, and I own ES10 and NS900(White).
Honestly, I don't like AT9000 a whole lot. Among these four, ES10 is the most easiest to play with both single/double.
It is not as power as the other three but you are not always winning points with smashing.
As I mention before, Clear+ Driver+ Push+ Placement are awesome.
If you can buy it ~30.00US I think it is worth the $$$
My son loves the NS900 because he always play full force thus.

Good Luck,

;););):):);););)

[Athelete1234]

Hi Gold,

I did try both AT9000S/X, and I own ES10 and NS900(White).
Honestly, I don't like AT9000 a whole lot. Among these four, ES10 is the most easiest to play with both single/double.
It is not as power as the other three but you are not always winning points with smashing.
As I mention before, Clear+ Driver+ Push+ Placement are awesome.
If you can buy it ~30.00US I think it is worth the $$$
My son loves the NS900 because he always play full force thus.

Good Luck,

;););):):);););)
NS900??? White????AT9000!? Are you talking about AT900T or NS9000!??

ES10???? Is this Arcsaber 10 (ARC10) or Apacs Edgesaber 10 (ES10).

~$30 for a racquet!? All fake IMO.

[Matt]

NS900??? White????AT9000!? Are you talking about AT900T or NS9000!??

ES10???? Is this Arcsaber 10 (ARC10) or Apacs Edgesaber 10 (ES10).

~$30 for a racquet!? All fake IMO.

Maybe this guy had too many drinks!

[noobtron]

arcsabre 10 is soft

the day you can use an aluminum racket as well as an arcsabre is the day you become a man

[Arcsaber]

arcsabre 10 is soft

the day you can use an aluminum racket as well as an arcsabre is the day you become a man

:confused::confused:

[Arcsaber]

What i do know, is that the arcsaber does great slice shots.:D

[xlasher]

I just bought it today... pheww can't wait to play with it.... heard so many positive things about this thing except the power....

I went to the Yonex Dealer Seller nearby and try AT900T and P and Arc Saber 10 and NS 9000

unfortunately for AT , he only has 4U which is not me at all... I'm used to 3U when I hold 4U racket. It feels like not an expensive racket so I decided not to pick them bu Arc 10... It feels solid and I think my smash will be faster with this...

I ordinarily wants to pick AT900T but the 4U makes me away from it and Try some head rackets which I think similar to Arc 10... wew hopefully I'm wrong... because I have spent a lot of money of this and I don't want to think this cheaper racket is the same quality as Arc 10. I'm into Yonex... though my racket bag is HEAD.... wkwkwk:D:D

Any difficulties using it for the first time ???

[teoky]

ARC 10 belongs to those racquets which feels good and solid when you use it, that's the impression I got when I tried it.

Most good all round racquets has that kind of feel good factor but there's something slightly special about ARC 10 though, when you hit the shuttle, it feels well connected, it feels solidly built and yet though it is not a feather weight racquet, moves well.

[Chris_mc]

Could you compare the At900T 4U with a Arc saber 10 3U? i currently use the AT 900T extremly well, but, seeing all the reviews, is the ARC10 accually better than AT900T?

[teoky]

I think if you are using the AT900T well, then stick to it. Racquet suitability is a personal choice, the ARC10 may be better than the AT900T for certain individuals, but it may not be the case for you.

[Chris_mc]

But you see, i need a spare racket to use, casue i can sometimes break the string once every month on the At900T, so would the ARC10 make a good racket as a back up?

[Danstevens]

But you see, i need a spare racket to use, casue i can sometimes break the string once every month on the At900T, so would the ARC10 make a good racket as a back up?

Yes it would. The Arc10 is great and I can't praise it enough. However, it costs about the same as the AT900T so I think you should get another AT900T as it's good to keep your racket the same as it will help you to be consistent.

If you change rackets when you break strings, it'll take time to adjust to the new racket and this could cost you points if you're playing competitively. If you have another AT900T, you'll change rackets smoothly and this is important in competitive play.

[BadJunkie]

hes not tripping at all.. and its not fakes.. its called clones all made by apacs


NS900??? White????AT9000!? Are you talking about AT900T or NS9000!??

ES10???? Is this Arcsaber 10 (ARC10) or Apacs Edgesaber 10 (ES10).

~$30 for a racquet!? All fake IMO.

[Athelete1234]

hes not tripping at all.. and its not fakes.. its called clones all made by apacs
APACS clone of AT900T is called Nano 900 Power (N900P or NP900). ARC10 clone is called Edgesaber 10 (ES10). Both are at least $50 USD.

[siekkwangcin]

Just bough arcsaber 3 weeks ago and looks what happened in the picture.
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/3695/brokenracketaw2.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1707/brokenracket2uc3.jpg
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/9667/brokenracket3td1.jpg
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/434/brokenracket4wh5.jpg
Use it for 3 times only
I assure you, the racket was <b>not</b> abused.I used it for drill forhand/backhand drive and all of the sudden the handle crack. :crying::crying:

This is real arcsaber by the way. Can anyone explain this.

[kimir]

you should ask for a refund

[teoky]

Hmmm, I saw the picture of the racquet bag and it doesn't seem like it is made of the same material as mine. Is that the ARC10 bag you have in the background ? The material in your case is made of shiny PU but mine has a texture to it.

Not too sure if the bag is different for different region.

BTW, where did you buy your racquet ?

[cooler]

where u bot it and for how much each?

[Jasonvan]

ya, doesn't look like the banana bag, it didn't say arc saber on it?

[cooler]

the shaft doesnt look right to me

[Optiblue]

you sure it's not a fake?

[Matt]

Serial and date code?