Yonex ArcSaber 10 Review

[Arcsaber]

More info needed.
I see you have another arc10 with broken strings. Sure it hasn't been swung real hard?

The yonex bag looks leathery, but it ain in the shape of the normal leather bags but more of the shape of an arc10 bag - but it's not made of fabric.

[siekkwangcin]

The bag is banana-shaped bag, got cut off in the picture. Just returned it to the seller for a refund.

[Jasonvan]

so it was a fake?

[dairyboichau]

+1 the bag seems faulty...


More info needed.
I see you have another arc10 with broken strings. Sure it hasn't been swung real hard?

The yonex bag looks leathery, but it ain in the shape of the normal leather bags but more of the shape of an arc10 bag - but it's not made of fabric.

[MZHZ92]

Oh dear, picutures like these above break my heart. It is hard to see destroyed racquets.

[BadJunkie]

LOLZ! if u buy in asia, u can buy it for USD30 after conversion =)


APACS clone of AT900T is called Nano 900 Power (N900P or NP900). ARC10 clone is called Edgesaber 10 (ES10). Both are at least $50 USD.

[ericehuang]

the arc 10 look alot like Head Nanopower 700
http://www.jrbadminton.com/Nano_Power_700.jpg

[Plutarch]

Got the Arcsaber 10 about a month ago, and i realized that I swing way faster than any other racket I have tried. I struggled for the first few hours that i played just because i would swing too fast, and started injuring my shoulder. After a while however I adjusted to it, and smashed harder and with more control than any other racket that I have tried. I guess for all rackets that you buy, you just have to be willing to adjust a little bit without rejecting it right away. Unfortuantely I feel the paint chips of way too fast. havent gotten in any seirous clashes, or many in total for that matter, but pretty much every slight clash has resulted in paint chipping and even frame shots have been disasterous.

[Antokbali]

When I saw the racket bag you have, I guarantee that your arcsaber is 100% fake. Because I have it. :D. I have bought 2 (Arcsaber 10 and 7). Just wondering how clever they clone the Arcsaber. I feel bad by having bought the rackets as I do not support any FAKE thing.
I was really very curious, then I checked in ebay. I found many-many fake stuff there. I have no idea why Ebay does not control the originality of the sellers. Anyway, first I contacted the seller as some racket named strangely like ARMDRTEC instead of ARMORTEC. And when I asked the originality of those rackets, the seller said "Oh it's almost like the original one and I have tried by myself. Really not so much different, he convinced me. I finally ordered Arcsaber 10 and 7 costs me around US$ 86 for both (including the shipment fee). I have them now in my badminton bag and they are not good at all. It's really better to buy cheap racket BUT original. Do not have to be Yonex. Many different rackets are now you can find in the shops. It depends on the person who use the racket. So, let's STOP supporting any fake product from now on. Peace!

[phandrew]

When I saw the racket bag you have, I guarantee that your arcsaber is 100% fake. Because I have it. :D. I have bought 2 (Arcsaber 10 and 7). Just wondering how clever they clone the Arcsaber. I feel bad by having bought the rackets as I do not support any FAKE thing.
I was really very curious, then I checked in ebay. I found many-many fake stuff there. I have no idea why Ebay does not control the originality of the sellers. Anyway, first I contacted the seller as some racket named strangely like ARMDRTEC instead of ARMORTEC. And when I asked the originality of those rackets, the seller said "Oh it's almost like the original one and I have tried by myself. Really not so much different, he convinced me. I finally ordered Arcsaber 10 and 7 costs me around US$ 86 for both (including the shipment fee). I have them now in my badminton bag and they are not good at all. It's really better to buy cheap racket BUT original. Do not have to be Yonex. Many different rackets are now you can find in the shops. It depends on the person who use the racket. So, let's STOP supporting any fake product from now on. Peace!

It's impossible to stop people selling fake yonex rackets on ebay because they will just make another account. There are people out there who are probably dumb enough to buy a yonex at such a cheap price knowing it is too good to be true.

[Antokbali]

Hi phandrew! I agreed with you. I bought the fake one not because I supporting them BUT I really would like to see fake racket. I really have never seen fake racket before I bought. I only read and have pic from this forum. Now I have it. Sooo..funny how the faked Arcsaber 10 and 7. The finishing is so rough. I have tried the original both Arcsaber and comparing to the fake one, it 's really different.
Pity that no one can stop people selling the fake yonex or other stuff. The important key is the buyer like us. If we stop buying, they will give up with all junks/rubbish they have. Greetings from cold Switzerland and Peace!

[derekcai]

Hi jymbalaya/Gold,
Right......NS9K X is much more stiffer than Arc Saber 10.;) In fact NS9K X is as stiff as RSL X2 Gold. I think RSL X2 Gold is head heavy than NS 9K X:eek:. Still I think Arc Saber 10 is a very good racket effortless for clear n lob.:p. Smashing is pretty good n powerful if u add abit lead tape on the top frame.
U got to try it out yrself to make a subjective judgement.:D
Lee:D

I acctually find the Ns9000x stiffer then the X2 Gold.:eek::eek:

[phandrew]

I acctually find the Ns9000x stiffer then the X2 Gold.:eek::eek:

It's hard to believe that but majority of people would agree with me that X2 gold is stiffer than the NS9000X and the stiffest racket in the market..

[K4mu1]

Got the Arcsaber 10 about a month ago, and i realized that I swing way faster than any other racket I have tried. I struggled for the first few hours that i played just because i would swing too fast, and started injuring my shoulder. After a while however I adjusted to it, and smashed harder and with more control than any other racket that I have tried. I guess for all rackets that you buy, you just have to be willing to adjust a little bit without rejecting it right away. Unfortuantely I feel the paint chips of way too fast. havent gotten in any seirous clashes, or many in total for that matter, but pretty much every slight clash has resulted in paint chipping and even frame shots have been disasterous.

I believe Arc10 is shoulder friendly. And they're pretty good vs clashes since the CSCarbon is pretty tough. And I've got clashes even accidentally balancing my self with the racket T_T... But when I checked no mis-shape or paint chips, except those I made with a very strong missing forehand on a Yonex M500 T_T... a very small chip though xD...

And just like the people said in this forum, wore those scar as a Battle Wound lol xD... I don't care bout what happened though since it's a gift xD.

[Plutarch]

I believe Arc10 is shoulder friendly. And they're pretty good vs clashes since the CSCarbon is pretty tough. And I've got clashes even accidentally balancing my self with the racket T_T... But when I checked no mis-shape or paint chips, except those I made with a very strong missing forehand on a Yonex M500 T_T... a very small chip though xD...

And just like the people said in this forum, wore those scar as a Battle Wound lol xD... I don't care bout what happened though since it's a gift xD.


Lol, I would care more if it were a gift :P
and though the frame its self may be strong, the paint for mine is falling off really quickly. It was scratch free for maybe the first 2 weeks, and then the slightest taps (though i admit I had one MASSIVE clash) often result in paint chipping off.
As for the racket being shoulder friendly, I guess its just me adjusting to the lighter weight.

[foo.tw]

IMO, ARM0RTEC is much better than ARMDRTEC.

[phandrew]

IMO, ARM0RTEC is much better than ARMDRTEC.

ARMDRTEC doesn't exist. ARM0RTEC also doesn't exist. It's spelled as Armortec

[K4mu1]

Lol, I would care more if it were a gift :P
and though the frame its self may be strong, the paint for mine is falling off really quickly. It was scratch free for maybe the first 2 weeks, and then the slightest taps (though i admit I had one MASSIVE clash) often result in paint chipping off.
As for the racket being shoulder friendly, I guess its just me adjusting to the lighter weight.

No I don't really care, because the paint chip is caused by the one who give it xD... About the frame... couldn't agree more xD... I've "taste" it when I return this smash... and the racket accidentally hit me in my face T_T... It's hurt and the frame is like "smiling" at me... Asking Are You Okay? Since I'm fine T_T.... :crying::crying::crying::crying:

[Athelete1234]

ARMDRTEC doesn't exist. ARM0RTEC also doesn't exist. It's spelled as Armortec
On the racquets, it's spelled ARMORTEC in capital letters. So you guys both screwed up :p

[phandrew]

On the racquets, it's spelled ARMORTEC in capital letters. So you guys both screwed up :p

I like to write with formality :cool::cool:

[Blurry D]

I got an early Christmas pressie this year and it is an ArcSaber10 JP all the way from Osaka.

Strung it with BG 66 @ 26 lbs just they way i like it.

I already have 2 sessions with it (3 hours each) and i am so in love with the racket. Prior to the ARC 10 i was using the Ti-10 2nd Gen. Having used the light headed racket switching to the Arc 10 did not take much as it only affected my smashes and back hand clears. It was just timing those shots.

Besides that, man this rackets is amazingly good at fast drives (offense and defense), control at the net, drop shots and defense.It is just amazing. It fits in to my game play and the even balance means that there is a bit more weight on the head of the racket gave me better power over my smashes.Somehow my drives are more accurate and faster.Defense is awesome as i can use less strength to flick the shuttle cross court.

The Apacs version of it which i just recently sold came not even close to the real thing.

I have been using all the AT. From 700,800 to 900 and still i think nothing comes close to the ARC 10.Judging from my personal point of view and my own gameplay the ARC 10 is the best all rounder racket so far for me.I thought that nothing can beat the legendary Ti-10 in which i still have a great respect.

Thanks to Ants i have always find your reviews quite spot on.For the ARC 10 it was spot on from the start even the price:p. No matter what people says about this racket. I think it performs up what it stands for - An all rounder racket.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Deric Chang]

I got my arc 10 2 weeks ago and only got the hang of it last nite. Had trouble with getting power into my smashes. Only yesterday was I able to feel the power. Overall, I felt a 'numbing' effect from the racket. Sort of like driving a Japanese car with power steering. You don't feel the road condition, which is kinda boring. No 'kick back' feel.

However, having said that, the weirdest thing about the racket is the high repulsion of the shuttle from the racket face. Soon as the shuttle touches the strings, it bounces away in a hurry!!! I have always been the type of player to release my shuttle at the last moment. Imagine the horrors when the shuttle does not go where I intend to put it. The numbing feeling does not help as you don't feel much of the shuttle at the other end. I have my racket strung at 27lbs using BG 66. Anybody here can offer some advice on this. One hugh plus point though, the huge sweet spot on the racket face.

The drives are awesome but because of the above, accuracy suffers compared to my Arc7 which gives me the ultimate accuracy thus far on net play and drops. (Minus the smashing power though! :o)

Appreciate some feedback. Thanks.


Deric

[HKChua]

I got an early Christmas pressie this year and it is an ArcSaber10 JP all the way from Osaka.

Strung it with BG 66 @ 26 lbs just they way i like it.



Hi,

Try stringing it with NBG98 @ 28LBS Single piece stringing. You will love it more.

Thanks.

[HKChua]

I got my arc 10 2 weeks ago and only got the hang of it last nite. Had trouble with getting power into my smashes. Only yesterday was I able to feel the power. Overall, I felt a 'numbing' effect from the racket. Sort of like driving a Japanese car with power steering. You don't feel the road condition, which is kinda boring. No 'kick back' feel.

The drives are awesome but because of the above, accuracy suffers compared to my Arc7 which gives me the ultimate accuracy thus far on net play and drops. (Minus the smashing power though! :o)



Hi,

It is matter of time. Habitually, you have been used to the ARC 7, and you are trying to derive the same feel from ARC 10. Forget the ARC 7, and get used to your ARC Saber 10. Arc Saber 10 can actually hold the shuttle on the string base longer than any other rackets.

And... try stringing it with NBG98 at 28LBS....

For doubles, this is the only racket I love using.

Thanks.

[DairyRon]

nice ! i liked. next year start on market?

[HKChua]

nice ! i liked. next year start on market?

????????:confused::confused::confused::confused::c onfused:

[modious]

Hi,

Try stringing it with NBG98 @ 28LBS Single piece stringing. You will love it more.

Thanks.

Sorry maybe I didn't read your earlier posts on this but why 1 piece stringing?
My ARC10 is also strung using the 1 piece method but I'm thinking of switching to 2 piece.

[HKChua]

Sorry maybe I didn't read your earlier posts on this but why 1 piece stringing?
My ARC10 is also strung using the 1 piece method but I'm thinking of switching to 2 piece.

Well... it is personal preference.

There are people who like to string 28 x 26LBS, insisting that that was recommended by YONEX, else it will cause stress to the frame and break the racket. I have been stringing some of my rackets for years with one piece and never have any problems.

But... it is because I am stringing at 28 x 28LBS, thus one piece stringing is OK. If you are stringing at different tensions for your Main and Cross... 2 piece stringing should be more adequate...

Thanks.

[modious]

Well... it is personal preference.

There are people who like to string 28 x 26LBS, insisting that that was recommended by YONEX, else it will cause stress to the frame and break the racket. I have been stringing some of my rackets for years with one piece and never have any problems.

But... it is because I am stringing at 28 x 28LBS, thus one piece stringing is OK. If you are stringing at different tensions for your Main and Cross... 2 piece stringing should be more adequate...

Thanks.


So you have not tried 2 piece stringing and see if there's any difference? Maybe it will be better? :D

Anyway, I will be stringing my 2 ARC 10 using the 2 methods soon to see what's the difference.

However, I'm not too sure if the tension on both rackets will be similar. If one is strung @ 27lbs (using NBG 98, 1 piece method), what should be the tension when using 2 piece method? 28 x 26 lbs??

[HKChua]

So you have not tried 2 piece stringing and see if there's any difference? Maybe it will be better? :D

Anyway, I will be stringing my 2 ARC 10 using the 2 methods soon to see what's the difference.

However, I'm not too sure if the tension on both rackets will be similar. If one is strung @ 27lbs (using NBG 98, 1 piece method), what should be the tension when using 2 piece method? 28 x 26 lbs??

I used to string at 28 x 26LBS, two piece stringing. After I changed to one piece stringing, well.... I have been stuck with it...:D.

Thanks.

[h4n5ip]

Hi,

Try stringing it with NBG98 @ 28LBS Single piece stringing. You will love it more.

Thanks.

If I am not wrong you were suggesting BG66sharp rather than Nbg98. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
Have you change to NBG 98 with your ARch 10?

[HKChua]

If I am not wrong you were suggesting BG66sharp rather than Nbg98. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
Have you change to NBG 98 with your ARch 10?

Sorry everyone,

Seemed to be getting old. h4n5ip is right. I had mistaken my BG66Sharp and NBG98. My Arc Saber 10 was strung with BG66Sharp.

Sorry again, Modious and others...

Thanks.

[HKChua]

Hi,

Try stringing it with NBG98 @ 28LBS Single piece stringing. You will love it more.

Thanks.

Hi Blurry D,

Sorry, should be BG66Sharp instead of NBG98 @ 28LBS.

[ericehuang]

HELLO Badminton People

I got a Arcsaber 10 (3u and strung with NBG 98 @ 24, bought in Japan)for Christmas and heres what i think (Comparing to my HEAD nanopower 700)

Just like many people said in the earlier reply, i believe the Arcsaber lacks power, i feel that it actually got less power than my nanopower 700

Other than power, the best thing i think for the arcsaber is its speed. Its incredibly fast and felt really good when i swing it.

So .....thats what i think of the Arcsaber 10

[NiTroXiTy]

I got an ArcSaber 10 yesterday as well. I needed it fast, so it's still strung with the standard BG65. I have one extra (thin) Yonex grip. I believe this is THE racket I have been looking for. Yesterday I played for 3 hours (non-stop, game after game), and my arm did not get tired at all. The racket gives a nice power, but not the ultimate power. The control with this racket is just perfect. Clearing doesn't need a lot of energy too.
Yesterday I won from guys with 21-14, who I couldn't beat before. The main reason for this is I didn't get tired, and before with my head heavy Carlton Fireblade Elite I got tired within one hour of playing.
I still have to get used to the speed of the racket, it's a bit quicker than I'm used to.
I think my next string will be a BG65Ti (OR perhaps a BG80).
Anyway, if you're an all-round player who likes a full control of the shuttle, and a little bit power, I truely believe you should invest in an ArcSaber 10.

And, because of this racket, I'm switching back to Yonex!

[ants]

ArcSaber 10 is best to be strung with a thin gauge string for maximum speed, touch and feel. If you guys cannot afford the 66Sharp.. bg66 is good enough as well..

[Terraglow]

Arcsaber10 and BG 66 is a perfect match....
and it is better to put the string at high tension...
( 25 Lb++ )
i am using BG 66 at 28 lbs.....
it gives good power as well as control
and feels really good :D

[SpendorK]

Arcsaber10 and BG 66 is a perfect match....
and it is better to put the string at high tension...
( 25 Lb++ )
i am using BG 66 at 28 lbs.....
it gives good power as well as control
and feels really good :D


Arcsaber10 and NBG 98 is a perfect match at 28lbs or above :)

[ants]

I strung mine at 31lbs if its BG65 or 30lbs for BG66. At the moment i'm using BG66 for my Arc10.

[h4n5ip]

Fully agreed. Arch saber best suit with thin string at high tension.
One more thing. it's much better with 4 knots rather than 2 knots.

[stkis1]

ArcSaber 10 is best to be strung with a thin gauge string for maximum speed, touch and feel. If you guys cannot afford the 66Sharp.. bg66 is good enough as well..


I fully agreed with ants ArcSaber 10 is indeed best to be strung using either BG66 or BG66Sharp. Mine, I strung it with BG66sharp and I really could feel the max speed and also the touch. With Arc10 it is indeed has charge my and also improve my game tremendously. I love my ArcSaber 10.

[twobeer]

ArcSaber 10 is best to be strung with a thin gauge string for maximum speed, touch and feel. If you guys cannot afford the 66Sharp.. bg66 is good enough as well..


Arcsaber10 and BG 66 is a perfect match....
and it is better to put the string at high tension...
( 25 Lb++ )
i am using BG 66 at 28 lbs.....
it gives good power as well as control
and feels really good :D


Arcsaber10 and NBG 98 is a perfect match at 28lbs or above :)


I strung mine at 31lbs if its BG65 or 30lbs for BG66. At the moment i'm using BG66 for my Arc10.


Fully agreed. Arch saber best suit with thin string at high tension.
One more thing. it's much better with 4 knots rather than 2 knots.


I fully agreed with ants ArcSaber 10 is indeed best to be strung using either BG66 or BG66Sharp. Mine, I strung it with BG66sharp and I really could feel the max speed and also the touch. With Arc10 it is indeed has charge my and also improve my game tremendously. I love my ArcSaber 10.

dooh.. You tell me a racket which is specially suited for thick strings at low tension ?!?! :rolleyes: :confused: Of course it is most suited for high tension thin strings (as every other decent racket around, given you can afford the string-breakage...)

/Twobeer

[Mark A]

Now that I own an Arc 10:D, I thought I'd add my tuppence/two cents. I'm not Ants (or Dink or Pete), but here goes anyway (please forgive the length:o):


First impressions, stringing:

The strawberries and cream styling seems to divide people, but I love it - I think it looks purposeful. The fit and finish is excellent, with paint quality being as good as anything else in YY's range. The fitted grip is even good enough to use off the shelf if it's the right size for your hand.

Mine is in 3U, but it feels very "substantial" for that weight. The balance is smack in the middle when unstrung, and the shaft is pretty stiff. When swung, it produces some very reassuring momentum.

I strung mine at 29/31 in BG70 (I play with plastic shuttles) and I can safely say I have never felt such confidence in a frame at this high a tension: it barely distorts at all and retains its shape perfectly. There's loads of room around the machine thanks to the thin frame as well.


Game time:


Doubles:

I play doubles at least 90% of the time and I consider myself (now) and all-court player. Staple shots such as clears and lifts got right to the back with very little effort, smashes had serious bite (when I could be bothered to climb over them), and even my backhand smashes caught people out. When it comes to precision the Arc 10 again triumphs, with serves and delicate net tumblers under supreme control. I had a few frame hits (cacking myself at 31 lbs:D), but it shrugged them off.

Defensively the Arc 10 is excellent, with the balance contributing a head that's very easy to place and a shaft that turns floaty blocks into real lifts or drives.


Singles:

When I find a racket perfect for doubles it normally stinks for me in singles, and vice versa. Not this time. I played a singles merely because there was a free court, and the Arc 10 was astonishing. Clears sailed for miles, even around the head, with the slightest flex of the wrist, smashes screamed down into open spaces and backhand "in trouble" shots didn't fall anywhere near the mid-court. Flat rallies were no problem either, the shuttle being very easy to steer with the merest adjustments.

Conclusion:

+

Excellent build quality/fit and finish;

LOVES high tension;

Combines the power of a top-end Armortec with the balance of a top-end Nanospeed;

Seems to WANT you play at your best:D.


-

I'm told you have to be a high-intermediate or better to fully appreciate it;

Sticker price could be viewed as excessive (but I paid £115, so I'm happy;));

The fact that I had to liquidate my beloved 900P to get one.


Overall, the Arc 10 is "all things to all (wo)men" - it seemed to mutate in my hand to fit the needs of the current shot. I will miss my 900, but the Arc 10 is more than capable of assuming its characteristics whenever I need them.


I love this thing to the hilt - 10/10 in every department.

[shot3gun]

Great review Mark A. I just got my arcsaber 10 yesterday :O

I must say, it is an amazing racket, but it is really hard to use (considering I switched from a Cab8600 to an arc 10). This racket is amazing, lighter than a NS9000, yet powerful as an AT900P. Yonex did a great job =D

[z3048018]

i've strung mine with 66SHARP but it felt hard...just couldn't get the power from it and cut it that night, both racquets. strung it with 65ti and it lost tension just like that after a week; cut it and strung it with bg85 - I LOVE IT!!! 68ti was good as well and tension was thereabouts until it snapped.

note: strung mine at 27lbs. always wanted to go higher, say 29lbs but my stringer is afraid....

[Brian2000]

dooh.. You tell me a racket which is specially suited for thick strings at low tension ?!?! :rolleyes: :confused: Of course it is most suited for high tension thin strings (as every other decent racket around, given you can afford the string-breakage...)

/Twobeer

Perfectly said... :P:p

[Chocolatier]

I was wondering about the SP (not CC) on the shaft of the Arc Saber 10. How come some Arc10s have it and others do not?

[Athelete1234]

Have you tried doing a search or reading the FAQs on distribution codes?

[Destricto_Ense]

Do tell where you got an ArcSaber 10 at that attractive price, Mark ;)

[Optiblue]

I will miss my 900, but the Arc 10 is more than capable of assuming its characteristics whenever I need them.

heeh, that's what they all say @ first! There will be days where you'll get power hungry!!! You'll be back!!!

[Mark A]

Do tell where you got an ArcSaber 10 at that attractive price, Mark ;)

Arcade Sports in Southport, Lancs. I should add that my teacher/coach friend is VERY tight with the owner and we send him a lot of business, so you wouldn't get THAT price, but it's worth getting it from there just to talk to Alan - he has just come back from stringing for the Koreans at the AE and lives and breathes badders (oh, and his two sons are both coaches:)).

[HKChua]

Just place my order for another 3UG4 Arc Saber 10 from Classic Sports today. Will be strung with BG66Sharp at 28 x 28LBS, 2 knots.

Until today, I still maintain that it is really a masterpiece!!

Thanks.

[szekt]

I had my Arc10 strung with BG 66 at 22lbs; am thinking of trying either NGY 95 or 98; what would be the equivalent tension to string it with? Thanks.:)

[HKChua]

I had my Arc10 strung with BG 66 at 22lbs; am thinking of trying either NGY 95 or 98; what would be the equivalent tension to string it with? Thanks.:)

What is your preferred tension?

My tension with NGY98 is still 28 x 28LBS.

Thanks.

[szekt]

What is your preferred tension?

My tension with NGY98 is still 28 x 28LBS.

Thanks.

I am trying 22lbs now with BG 66 and it seems all right; just wondering if there is an equivalent tension with NGY 98 or 95; for example, for BG 85, it is normally recommended to string it at 2 lbs lower cf to BG 66 right?:D

[HKChua]

I am trying 22lbs now with BG 66 and it seems all right; just wondering if there is an equivalent tension with NGY 98 or 95; for example, for BG 85, it is normally recommended to string it at 2 lbs lower cf to BG 66 right?:D

Personally, I don't like BG85.

My preferred string are BG66, BG66Sharp and NGY98.

On the Arc Saber 10, you can add 2LBS above your normal preferred tension without any problems.

To generate power from any strokes, it is more than just a branded racket. One will have to improve his/her physique and stamina. You may have to observe which of those muscles is in-charge of generating the power. You have to build enough of such mucles within your body to generate power.... such power is then transferred through the racket strokes...

Just my 0.01 cent.

Thanks.

[angelwingzx]

i had my arc 10 restrung the other day @ 26 lbs with bb66

snapped within two games. i only missed once ='(...

Any suggestions w/ other strings and tension?

[HKChua]

i had my arc 10 restrung the other day @ 26 lbs with bb66

snapped within two games. i only missed once ='(...

Any suggestions w/ other strings and tension?

At which part of the string bed did it break?

Thanks.

[angelwingzx]

At which part of the string bed did it break?

Thanks.

Just a little bit above the sweet spot/ center of the racquet.
But i realized now that i probably made a retarded mistake...
It was at school and they only had plastic birdies.

[HKChua]

Just a little bit above the sweet spot/ center of the racquet.
But i realized now that i probably made a retarded mistake...
It was at school and they only had plastic birdies.

For plastic birdies, BG85...

[kwun]

i have not bought any new Yonex racket for ages. for all the years, i have been buying up cabs. last time i bought a non-cab Yonex was 2003. yes. it has been that long. i skipped all the AT/NS generations. (it is not like i have never tried them, just that i never owned one)

but recently, i went and bought myself a ARC10 to see what the hype is about.

and i was pleasantly surprised.

i have a ARC10, 3UG4 SP. strung with BG80 @ 24lbs on a constant pull. which is actually quite high a tension in comparison to what most people use. i wrapped the grip with a layer of Wilson Xtra grip.

the paint job to me was OK. i don't particularly love nor do i hate the flashy red color. the overgrip i used was black so that reduce the flashiness a little.

upon holding it i find that the racket is really quite nicely balanced. not particularly head heavy, nor head light. the balance is one of the strong point of the racket.

the feel of the racket is excellent, vibration is neither too damped, nor is it too excessive, it give a nice precise feedback to the player. the shaft is another strong point of the racket, it is medium stiff only but the material used was very lively. many poorly designed racket has a overly dull response, this one actually feel good. a fast swing will be rewarded with a quick snap and rebounces on the shuttle.

power is not the strongest point of the ARC10, the medium stiff racket don't reward the heaviest smasher but ones who like to have medium smash power with good placement control.

overall, i had fun with the ARC10 and might be using it more in the future.

[atingd]

So personally you would go for arc10 to ns9900?

[Tsumaranai]

I don't think he has enough experience to make such a suggestion. As he said, this is the first new racket he's purchased since 2003 that is from Yonex. Thus, he definitely hasn't tried the NS9900, having also skipped all previous NS models.

[atingd]

Ah whether or not he has or hasn't tried the NS9900 we can't be sure, but yes I agree with you, he has definitely never owned the NS9900, or any other newer racquets for that matter.

[kwun]

So personally you would go for arc10 to ns9900?


I don't think he has enough experience to make such a suggestion. As he said, this is the first new racket he's purchased since 2003 that is from Yonex. Thus, he definitely hasn't tried the NS9900, having also skipped all previous NS models.

yeah. i have played with many of them briefly. but never really owned any of them for a duration of time.

the decision on the 9900 was partly due to the lukewarm review we have here in BC.

[Kelvin]

yeah. i have played with many of them briefly. but never really owned any of them for a duration of time.

the decision on the 9900 was partly due to the lukewarm review we have here in BC.

Wow Kwun, I'm surprised you actually foot the bill for a non-cab!!!
Especially after all the mp100 debacle & mass Carbonex spending spree back then :D

JKJK

Glad to hear the arc10 is working out well...
I am tempted to try the NS9900

I had tried the AT series range 900P/T, 800OF/DF, 700
They were OK to me, but nothing spectacular...

I did however really enjoy the NS9000X though, and 7700 (for a different feel) and stuck with the NS series, and some of my old cab racquets since... but I have got the itch again after reading your experiences with Arc10...:o

[trickflick]

what page is the review on 0_o

[Athelete1234]

Here you go:

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=792044&postcount=135

Next time, just search through the posts that ants has made inside the thread.

[trickflick]

hmmm
the review is very different from dink's review
personal preference maybe?

[AceSpade]

They sure weren't kidding when they labeled the ARC10 as an ADVANCED racket. Having consider myself as an INTERMEDIATE RECREATIONAL player with 5 yrs experience, I thought I too could wield the power of the saber.. boy was I wrong.

Initial impression was that it hits like a brick, way too stiff and heavy. Granted after a few games I got 75% of my power back, this racket still needs some time for me to get used to. Funny I only bought this baby after trying out someone else's Arc10, theirs felt light and effortless to hit & I instantly fell in love with it... Perhaps I tried a FAKE??? Such irony...

Here's my racket history (comparisons):

0) $15 Wilson Titanium 105g lol - played excellent.

1) $70 EBAY-FakeSaber10 Gift (BG65@24lbs)- Looked just like the real thing (in retrospect i thought the paint job was even better than my real arc10), played ok for about a year until it broke

2) $25 HL Flexible Graphite Loaner (factory@18) - funny I felt I gained 110% Superpower with this thing, my smashes were KILLING everything & everyone in sight.

3) $200 real ARC10, 3UG4 (BG65 @ 22x24lbs) - playing like a half crippled handicap.

At this point I am wondering what's the point of a stiff $200 racket if I could achieve way better results with a flexible rubber-band $25 generic. Only time will tell I suppose... I just hope I manage to unleash the racket's power before it gives me a broken wrist lol.

Tips? Advice?

[sleepingforest]

They sure weren't kidding when they labeled the ARC10 as an ADVANCED racket. Having consider myself as an INTERMEDIATE RECREATIONAL player with 5 yrs experience, I thought I too could wield the power of the saber.. boy was I wrong.

Initial impression was that it hits like a brick, way too stiff and heavy. Granted after a few games I got 75% of my power back, this racket still needs some time for me to get used to. Funny I only bought this baby after trying out someone else's Arc10, theirs felt light and effortless to hit & I instantly fell in love with it... Perhaps I tried a FAKE??? Such irony...

Here's my racket history (comparisons):

0) $15 Wilson Titanium 105g lol - played excellent.

1) $70 EBAY-FakeSaber10 Gift (BG65@24lbs)- Looked just like the real thing (in retrospect i thought the paint job was even better than my real arc10), played ok for about a year until it broke

2) $25 HL Flexible Graphite Loaner (factory@18) - funny I felt I gained 110% Superpower with this thing, my smashes were KILLING everything & everyone in sight.

3) $200 real ARC10, 3UG4 (BG65 @ 22x24lbs) - playing like a half crippled handicap.

At this point I am wondering what's the point of a stiff $200 racket if I could achieve way better results with a flexible rubber-band $25 generic. Only time will tell I suppose... I just hope I manage to unleash the racket's power before it gives me a broken wrist lol.

Tips? Advice?


i'm by no means a pro player...but here's my take at it..i really think the arc is a love/hate racket as many ppl here have said...some ppl are able to use it comfortably and some just dont feel it...in my case i was lucky enough to feel really at home with the racket from the first time it touched a shuttle...i bought my arc a couple week ago and was able to settle in immediately on my first game..it maybe due to i was using an apacs edgesaber10; its clone before thus the transition was not as harsh..but having said that the es10 is a totally different racket though..it is 4u and is really head light...but so far i'm really enjoying my arc...no regrets at all great buy!:D

[weeyeh]

Arc10 is, IMHO, one of the more beginner friendly high-end rackets. What it means is that if you are a beginner, do not care about value for money and have tonnes of money to burn, the ARC10 is not going to destroy your game (compared to e.g. NS9kX).

I am a beginner who prefers stiff rackets and bought a 2nd hand arc10 to see what this is all about. It's not really that bad for most shots but the smashes are weird. I find that my smashes are extremely loud but smashes are just not going out that fast.

My 3u arc10 is kinda heavy (heavier than my 3u cab30) but head lighter (by ~24mm). Defending is one of the strengths of this racket, as is directional control. Otherwise, my cab30 knocks it in every other department.

The arc10 also needs to be strung a bit higher than the normal tension. My arc10 at 28lbs (BG80) feels almost like my Cab30 at 26lbs (BG80).

Sum it up, from beginner to beginner, arc10 is not that bad a racket. At the asking price, there are so many other rackets to choose from that the arc10 is utterly hopeless in the value (ROI) attribute (for me). As beginners, we always run the risk of clashing in doubles so i will not advise this racket unless you do not mind destroying it.

[teoky]

Yes, agree with Wee Yeh that amongst the high end Yonex racquets, the ARC10 is more beginner friendly than the NS9000/9900 or AT700/900. In fact, the ARC Saber series as a whole is more friendly, if you don't mind sacrificing abit of power, the ARC7/9 is pretty good also.

[h4n5ip]

Getting back another Arch 10.
It is CP code, too good too be missed this one, a very rare racket.

String with NBG 98 at 28lbs.
Played last night. Feel so much different with my AT900P JP.
Felt like head light, easy to swing, very quick indeed, but power wasn't as strong as 900P.

[AceSpade]

Day 02: Wielding the Arc10 felt more like aiming with a bazooka. Every shot had a solid loud BOOM to it, as if I was blowing down walls with a battering ram. Very unlike any rackets I had in the past. Solid clears/returns/smashes, however the racket needs certain amount of swing acceleration in order to achieve the momentum to unleash its power, I can no longer 'wing it' with my shots, without using proper technique & timing shots come off very nasty. heavy & powerful but not very nimble/agile. Currently relearning all my shots, accuracy is 60% at best, while absolutely zero finesse at the moment. I pray it improves with time??? As I prefer finesse over power any days..

FYI: found out my friend's Arc10 was a G5, no wonder it's so light. That feel was perfect to me... much lighter & agile. Think if I had bought that one I would have very little learning curve. NOTE TO SELF: Tryout racket before buying!! CHECK the grips size too!!

To Weeyeh: Yea & no doubt I bet NS9kx will be even less forgiving, with it being extra stiff & head light...

[zqcebtmu]

Does anyone feel their arc 10 flexing when they smash? My smashes turn into drives sometimes and I'm wondering if my racket is flexing too much or is it because I'm getting tired and not snapping the wrist?

[Matt]

Does anyone feel their arc 10 flexing when they smash? My smashes turn into drives sometimes and I'm wondering if my racket is flexing too much or is it because I'm getting tired and not snapping the wrist?

This sounds like a technique and timing issue if your smashes turns into drives.

[Babyface]

as above, i have a member at university that has the same issue

[Matt]

Doesn't quite make sense to blame the racket because it can be done on any. Wouldn't say smashes turn into drives because it was not hit properly. I also own an Arc10 myself.

Then I can say that my smashes look can look like flat drives on my Arc7 once a while because I'm out of position and trying to remain on the offensive.

[trickflick]

WOW
this has turned into quite the thread
1330 comments?!

[eyky1618]

This sounds like a technique and timing issue if your smashes turns into drives.

I agree...if you try doing a cross court smash with the right timing and power...you know that Arc10 is the cream of the crop as an all-rounder racket.

Tha's my 2 cents...:)

[Tsumaranai]

I also own an Arc10 myself.

Only one, Matt? Are you sure? :D

[Matt]

I agree...if you try doing a cross court smash with the right timing and power...you know that Arc10 is the cream of the crop as an all-rounder racket.

Tha's my 2 cents...:)

Yep, I've done it before, it's very powerful with my own Arc10 which also includes the jump smashing cross court. For the style of play, the Arc7 suits me better overall.


Only one, Matt? Are you sure? :D

Lol, you can always check my bag! :D

[eyky1618]

[quote=Matt;1155989]Yep, I've done it before, it's very powerful with my own Arc10 which also includes the jump smashing cross court. For the style of play, the Arc7 suits me better overall.


The Arc10 is hard to replace....i have had 3 so far...2*3U and 1*2U.
The 1st one cracked hence the 2nd one. :crying:

The Arc10 is one of those racket where you dont have to lose control when you're flexing your muscle.

[Loglc]

Does anyone feel their arc 10 flexing when they smash? My smashes turn into drives sometimes and I'm wondering if my racket is flexing too much or is it because I'm getting tired and not snapping the wrist?

i experienced this kind of problem before,for me it just me getting tired.got nothing to do with the racket

[antonl]

i experienced this kind of problem before,for me it just me getting tired.got nothing to do with the racket

I have this same problem (smashes to flat drives)...it happens when tired but more frequently, when I am in a poor position to smash. In a poor position, if not flat, my smashes lack any "punch".

While this happens with any racket, the problem is more acute with the ARC10. I have used the AT900T, SOTX13, SOTX CP5000, MP100, RSL 6900 among other rackets and they are all far more forgiving. You'll probably note with the mix of rackets...it isn't a head heavy vs even balanced issue.

I believe that the ARC10 is actually a VERY DEMANDING racket...when playing well, the ARC10 is fantastic and I cannot ask for anything more in a racket. When I am not playing well or competition forces me to run and take poor-positioned or hurried shots, the ARC10 is ....a terrible choice.

I still have to figure this out and would appreciate any ideas.

[kwun]

I have this same problem (smashes to flat drives)...it happens when tired but more frequently, when I am in a poor position to smash. In a poor position, if not flat, my smashes lack any "punch".

While this happens with any racket, the problem is more acute with the ARC10. I have used the AT900T, SOTX13, SOTX CP5000, MP100, RSL 6900 among other rackets and they are all far more forgiving. You'll probably note with the mix of rackets...it isn't a head heavy vs even balanced issue.

I believe that the ARC10 is actually a VERY DEMANDING racket...when playing well, the ARC10 is fantastic and I cannot ask for anything more in a racket. When I am not playing well or competition forces me to run and take poor-positioned or hurried shots, the ARC10 is ....a terrible choice.

I still have to figure this out and would appreciate any ideas.

have you found any racket that is actually good for when you are not playing well and under-pressure?

i personally have found that the ARC10 to be an excellent all rounder racket. the balance, weight, and liveliness are all superb.

the price however, can come down a bit. :mad:

[silentheart]

the price however, can come down a bit. :mad:
Ask around, there are deal to be found...

[kwun]

Ask around, there are deal to be found...

lower than US$150?? i am talking about HK prices here.

[antonl]

have you found any racket that is actually good for when you are not playing well and under-pressure?

i personally have found that the ARC10 to be an excellent all rounder racket. the balance, weight, and liveliness are all superb.

the price however, can come down a bit. :mad:

When I know my opponent will have me running around like a monkey, I'd go for the AT900 or the W13. My theory is that added weight and head-heaviness would compensate for hurried shots. But I'd lose the advantages of better maneouverability, control, and placement of the ARC10. And I'd tire faster.

Now, I stick to the ARC10 which actually has forced me to make better shot selections, get into position faster, etc. As mentioned, when playing well, the ARC10 is fantastic. When not playing well...it's the racket's fault ha ha.

I do want to know what accounts for the the ARC10's "unforgiving" nature. Is it the material, the hold vs. repulsion thing (which I still cannot understand), or whatever it is that makes the ARC10 different from the rackets I've mentioned.

[HKChua]

...Now, I stick to the ARC10 which actually has forced me to make better shot selections, get into position faster, etc. As mentioned, when playing well, the ARC10 is fantastic. When not playing well...it's the racket's fault ha ha.


To it whether is Arc Saber 10 or AT-900T, it all boils down to proper technique. Try picking up a shuttlecock from the floor by simply rotating the racket cone with thy fingers. Also try picking up the shuttlecock with the backhand stringbed, similarly simply by rotating your fingers only...

When smashing... lift up your elbow, forming a L-shaped, with elbow pointing up and hold your racket cone with your fingers, leaving a gap between the cone and your palm. The shuttlecock must be 2 ft away from your vertical position when doing a smash adn 1 ft away from your vertical position when making a drop. Straighten your arm and snap the shuttle by rotating your wrist. It is the rotation of the wrist (pronation) that make the powerful smash because the entire displacement distance is shorter, causing a greater speed when snapping the shuttle. Those with weak wrist may enhance the hit with a bit of arm swing but... actually... it is a bad technique. One should strengthen his/her wrist, in order to really play badminton well. You can control the speed and direction of shuttlecock by proper manipulation of fingers. Brutal force in swinging does not give you power smashes.

Look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p18RzaW94j0

Thanks

[lovegas]

I got 2 Arc10 today, all 3ug4 SP code strung with bg66 from queenways. They performed even better than the tester that I borrowed from a friend which I will not go into details as there are better reviewers here.

The thing I wanted to ask about is that I found small holes in both rackets butt as shown in the best homebrew drawing I can come out with :) ( red dots represent the hole) as my camera is not with me at the moment.

Does anyone have similar Arc10 which have this holey things or can anyone explained why the holes? Coz after some checking on friends Arc10, I found that their buttcap is intact.

[issarakaya]

The thing I wanted to ask about is that I found small holes in both rackets butt as shown in the best homebrew drawing I can come out with :) ( red dots represent the hole) as my camera is not with me at the moment.

Does anyone have similar Arc10 which have this holey things or can anyone explained why the holes? Coz after some checking on friends Arc10, I found that their buttcap is intact.

My Arc10 JP is not have that hole but i have AT900T IP, AT900P IP and AT700 SP all of them have hole like that, only different position :D
That hole mean that YY racket is choose and given by YY for some national player and not for sale to open market ;)
Congrats bro, they are rare.....i must waiting quite long to get my second and third AT900T IP with hole like that :D

[lovegas]

That is great news bro :D I am still wondering about my luck with rackets when I saw the holes on the buttcap. I only got them because I like their running serial no. which is pretty unique i think.

Come to think of that.. they do feel more solid than the tester Arc10 that I borrowed and have identical BP on them.

Thanks a lot

[roy b]

My Arc10 JP is not have that hole but i have AT900T IP, AT900P IP and AT700 SP all of them have hole like that, only different position :D
That hole mean that YY racket is choose and given by YY for some national player and not for sale to open market ;)
Congrats bro, they are rare.....i must waiting quite long to get my second and third AT900T IP with hole like that :D

So all I have to do is drill a few holes in handles of my rackets and people will be offering me loads of money for them, eh !!

Seriously (and I don't want to put a dampener on this) but, considering the well-known 'supposed' merits of holes in handles, is it possible that this could be faked by people ??

[issarakaya]

So all I have to do is drill a few holes in handles of my rackets and people will be offering me loads of money for them, eh !!

Seriously (and I don't want to put a dampener on this) but, considering the well-known 'supposed' merits of holes in handles, is it possible that this could be faked by people ??

eemmmm, faker is always possible to do that even that's not easy (hole is not penetrate butt cap) but since the price is same (as matter of fact i get those below SP normal market price :) so waiting time is not a problem) i doubt anyone trying to make hole to claiming national player racket :D
Those hole code mean nothing without player sign so you cant sell higher than normal market price except they are discontinued model/colour like old colour At700 or 1gen Ti-10
And for the last, i already check all my YY racket and also send the code to @leehsim here to check the serial number on shaft & cone....they are legitimate

[Loglc]

as far as i know,to determine a national player racket is a racket with IP coded,punched on the butt cap and comes with no sunrise hologram stickers

[Matt]

Hehehe, don't give put too much hype about the national player rackets if it does not benefit the player playing better. They do serve as good collector items thou I should say.

[issarakaya]

^
You're right sir :D Actually i cant tell the different from SP or IP or even JP, with or without hole. They all perform as good as any code ;) I just collecting them, not hoping this code will help me play better :p
I even not using YY now, Mizuno TC 700 and Victor BS 08 enough for me....:cool:

[lovegas]

I second that. An 60 years old uncle in my team could still trash a lot of us in single with his cheapo 30 dollar wilson racket regardless of the Arc10 or nanospeed 9900 that we own:crying:

[ants]

I second that. An 60 years old uncle in my team could still trash a lot of us in single with his cheapo 30 dollar wilson racket regardless of the Arc10 or nanospeed 9900 that we own:crying:

True true... some of them can even trash us using old squash racket! :eek:

[HaoFung]

i believe ants is exaggerating ^^

[Fluxe]

Losing to a 60-year old, are you sure?! I guess it is because of the compassion for the elderly. If you have some basic you should at least take the 2nd and 3rd game, that is if he can still move XD Now, I feel bad initiating the idea of "torturing" the old man.

[ants]

i believe ants is exaggerating ^^

Well im not saying i've seen one.. its a figure of speech. But i do think there are some who is capable.

[lovegas]

That 60 years old man(to be exact 56 years) won a lot of touraments as a single player in his youth and til a few years ago he is still our grc/Constituency champion.

Beside him, I had seen quite a no. of veteran MY/SG/InDO players who can give us younger players a run for our money with their courtcraft and stroke consistency. As for your "torturing" theory ...hmmm... I guess you must be of very very advanced level to make such statement.

[hyper_power111]

Can you guy show the hole on the butt cap? I saw a post about the secret of IP racket last time. It has mentioned that there is a differece between normal racket and player racket. Even it is a SP or IP code, the hole on the butt cap is the main feature to distinguish it. So I hope you guy can show the picture so that we can see it. Thx you very much!

[issarakaya]

That 60 years old man(to be exact 56 years) won a lot of touraments as a single player in his youth and til a few years ago he is still our grc/Constituency champion.

Beside him, I had seen quite a no. of veteran MY/SG/InDO players who can give us younger players a run for our money with their courtcraft and stroke consistency. As for your "torturing" theory ...hmmm... I guess you must be of very very advanced level to make such statement.
I agree......physically they cannot match younger player but technically and experience can make difference in the game.

Can you guy show the hole on the butt cap? I saw a post about the secret of IP racket last time. It has mentioned that there is a differece between normal racket and player racket. Even it is a SP or IP code, the hole on the butt cap is the main feature to distinguish it. So I hope you guy can show the picture so that we can see it. Thx you very much!
i'll do that after my poor Canon IXUS :crying: back from service centre...already a month and counting :mad:
My mobile phone camera quality is poor, i cant take macro mode.

[hyper_power111]

I agree......physically they cannot match younger player but technically and experience can make difference in the game.

i'll do that after my poor Canon IXUS :crying: back from service centre...already a month and counting :mad:
My mobile phone camera quality is poor, i cant take macro mode.

Thank you Issarakaya, I am looking forward to seeing the photo. you are so nice.

[Athelete1234]

....so what happened to that Arcsaber 10 we were supposed to be talking about :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:.

I think it's a well rounded racquet which has a nice feel, sorta unique, but is easy to adapt to and great for a player who wants a balanced (literally even balance, and an all-rounder type racquet) racquet.

[issarakaya]

@hyper power111
http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp291/issarakaya/DSC00111.jpg
Its that clear? my W890 camera is really suck !!!!
Anyway it's my at900t, the other 4 racket is still covered by original plastic wrap so difficult to take picture clearly with this poor phone

[hyper_power111]

Oh! thx you very much. It is very clear. However, I wanna know any different feeling when you play. Some people said this kind of racket is a bit heavier than normal SP/IP racket. Is that true?

[issarakaya]

Yes it was heavier, 1-2 gram doesnt hurt me :D Different feel was not significant, only little bit more solid feel but this could be cause different weight like i mention..

[findecano1]

Concerning that small hole, my Cab21SP (old color blue) have something like that too when I first bought it new eons ago. Does that mean its a player's racket? At first I thought it was a damage. :p

[Jyaki]

Anyone find the Soft Leather Grip any better than the default ones on other racquets?

[xiaoheng]

Anyone find the Soft Leather Grip any better than the default ones on other racquets?

u mean the arc 10 soft leather grip? normally i dun use the grip that comes with it to play... i will put an grip on top of it or remove the origin grip and put a normal grip... it feels damm alot better... if u ask itz better than other rackets default grips... i think not much better than others... or i can say it feels all the same...

[Deathsticks]

now that i think of it
the first picture looks like wilson's N6-1 racket design
red on the sides white/black on the rest :P

[bluecraze07]

From the small amount of time I've had with the Arc10, the racket has a different feel from anything I've used. I couldn't get use to it but it'd be unfair for me to say anything negative about this racket because I've only used it for a few minutes

[soda13]

would anyone recommend this as an upgrade from the RSL Diamond X1...? uhm, i posted a thread at the racket recommendation forum but no one seems to be responding.. details on my game play can be found here.. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80802

would very much appreciate the help guys..

[jairbak]

YAY finally my arc 10 came today,, after alot of research and saving I bought the arc 10 I wanted to buy the z slash but that was just to expensive.

I played with the racket today and wow :D:D it has a lot of power and good clears drives , but the net drops i have to get used to.

I am used to the dunlop aerogel 5000 and it is like the opposite of this racket because it is super lite super flexibel and super head light :P so yeah i have kind of a sore shoulder now but it's ok:P But the ARC 10 is a verry nice and good racket for sure :)

[absol94]

Just want to ask you all where can i get original n nice price for ARC10 i from malaysia,terangganu......but I hope can find it at KL Puchong....any suggestion shop????

[joeyf]

I recently bought an arcsaber 10 second hand. I was wondering what weight it could be coz it feels like a 2U but on the website it says its 89.9 grams (which is 3U i think) and I felt another arcsaber 10 and it feels lighter and it was a 3U. Its a UK model, but i dont think UK model do 2U models do they?

[joeyf]

I recently bought an arcsaber 10 second hand. I was wondering what weight it could be coz it feels like a 2U but on the website it says its 89.9 grams (which is 3U i think) and I felt another arcsaber 10 and it feels lighter and it was a 3U. Its a UK model, but i dont think UK model do 2U models do they?

[stccmc]

Yep, I've done it before, it's very powerful with my own Arc10 which also includes the jump smashing cross court. For the style of play, the Arc7 suits me better overall.



Lol, you can always check my bag! :D

Matt, what is it in ARC 7 that suits you better?

[joeyf]

double posted sorry.

[demolidor]

I recently bought an arcsaber 10 second hand. I was wondering what weight it could be coz it feels like a 2U but on the website it says its 89.9 grams (which is 3U i think) and I felt another arcsaber 10 and it feels lighter and it was a 3U. Its a UK model, but i dont think UK model do 2U models do they?

If you know it's a UK model, you should know what weight it is classified as. It should say on the sticker.
Feels like a 2U compared to what? ;)

[joeyf]

If you know it's a UK model, you should know what weight it is classified as. It should say on the sticker.
Feels like a 2U compared to what? ;)

Well the grips on top of the sticker and I dont want to ruin it :P and compared to the 3U I felt in the shop

[Yoppy]

Guys/girls i have a question to ask. Its been a while since i have Arc10 in my bag, but for some reason i just cant get the best of the racket while playing. Something just does not feel right, and i suspect its because the string is too loose. The racket was strung by the seller from whom i bought the racket from. I ussualy play at 28lbs, and i can tell that my Arc10 is probably around 24 or 23 lbs.

I have been trying to break the string while playing without any success, so my question is: should i just cut the string and get it restring immidiately? Or should i just keep using it until it snap? I realise this is a dumb question, i should be able answer it my self, but somehow i just cant decide and i dont know why :(

[demolidor]

Well the grips on top of the sticker and I dont want to ruin it :P and compared to the 3U I felt in the shop

Unless the extra grip is made out of air there's your 2U right there (or did you remove the original?)


Guys/girls i have a question to ask. Its been a while since i have Arc10 in my bag, but for some reason i just cant get the best of the racket while playing. Something just does not feel right, and i suspect its because the string is too loose. The racket was strung by the seller from whom i bought the racket from. I ussualy play at 28lbs, and i can tell that my Arc10 is probably around 24 or 23 lbs.

I have been trying to break the string while playing without any success, so my question is: should i just cut the string and get it restring immidiately? Or should i just keep using it until it snap? I realise this is a dumb question, i should be able answer it my self, but somehow i just cant decide and i dont know why :(

*snip* :p

[Athelete1234]

Guys/girls i have a question to ask. Its been a while since i have Arc10 in my bag, but for some reason i just cant get the best of the racket while playing. Something just does not feel right, and i suspect its because the string is too loose. The racket was strung by the seller from whom i bought the racket from. I ussualy play at 28lbs, and i can tell that my Arc10 is probably around 24 or 23 lbs.

I have been trying to break the string while playing without any success, so my question is: should i just cut the string and get it restring immidiately? Or should i just keep using it until it snap? I realise this is a dumb question, i should be able answer it my self, but somehow i just cant decide and i dont know why :(
I suggest cutting...better to waste a few dollars, than to feel like you've wasted a lot of money on the racquet.

[Yoppy]

makes sense. im calling my stringer...............

[soda13]

ok, i made a seriously stupid mistake.
me and my buds were packing up after a night on the courts, when suddenly there was a power out. the place was pitch dark, naturally we scrambled to our bags to look for any source of light (cellphones, etc.) when i felt that i stepped on a racket, particularly a racket shaft. after the lights went back on, i saw that the only racket on the ground was my Arc10. curse my clumsiness. :mad:
the racket didn't break, luckily. i think i didn't put my full weight on that step 'coz i immediately pulled back after i felt something. but still it bent pretty deeply. i was wondering if this could affect the flex of my racket in any way or its overall performance. could it be possible that it would now bend more easily?
i won't be able to test out the racket until a couple more days and i'm getting restless.
hoping for feedback, thanks in advance.

[SamsonSun]

The pictuers arent ArcSaber, neither...

[SamsonSun]

The pictuers arent ArcSaber, neither...

[izzi-carbonex]

ok, can someone clarify ARC10 stiffness compared to Yonex Carbonex 21SP? Which is stiffer?

[frostcone]

What does it mean arc10 comes alive @ ~26lb? power? feel?

[wyemarn]

I just got myself an Arc10. I have been using AT500 strung with BG65Ti at 24 pounds. Currently I have 2 BG65P, BG65Ti and NBG95. Which string do you guys recommend and what is the most suitable tension(max 24 written on the cone)?

[ryim_]

I just got myself an Arc10. I have been using AT500 strung with BG65Ti at 24 pounds. Currently I have 2 BG65P, BG65Ti and NBG95. Which string do you guys recommend and what is the most suitable tension(max 24 written on the cone)?
Just go with the string and tension you're most comfortable with. If you're not concerned about warranty, just ignore what it says. The ARC10 (like other high end rackets) can take much much higher tension than 24lbs provided you have a good stringer.

[wyemarn]

I have tried swinging the Arc10 unstrung and I can immediately feel the difference. It is much easier to move around compared to my AT500. Since it's unstrung I suspect this racket will be slower once it's strung. AT500's head is heavier than Arc10 so this might be the main problem. I'm thinking of getting a 2nd hand AT900-P because it's cheap and plan to alternate between Arc10 and AT900-P as my main rackets, making the AT500 as backup. I play doubles mostly and like to smash. Since AT900 is much heavier than AT500, I wonder whether it will be slower and less maneuverable than AT500? Would it be easy to alternate between AT900-P and Arc10?

[-SYC-]

what is the best tension for the Arc Saber 10? I have it at 23 but not sure iof i should put it higher, what do you guys recommend?
I am just 14 playing for school

[Barca]

what is the best tension for the Arc Saber 10? I have it at 23 but not sure iof i should put it higher, what do you guys recommend?
I am just 14 playing for school

There isn't a recommended tension. it is very personal and up to individual preference. I would suggest that you go for your current tension first. That's the safest option.

[idv14]

ARCSABER 10 is the best racket I've ever played with, i love the control and stiffness. very powerful racket, plus it has a really nice red/white color combination... I'd buy another ARCSABER 10 with no doubt! :D

[LD rules!]

So (finally) I tried the Arc10 today, for a very uncompetitive game of doubles, (it was me and my friend playing against each other with beginner partners)

From the small amount of time I got with it, I established a few things:

The rackets overall weight is quite heavy (the sort of weight I like) Its labelled as 3GG3, and It feels a lot heavier than my NS9900 (reletively speaking)
The racket feels nice and balanced, It gives you the ability to defend well, and attack well, so it has the best of both worlds. Control is first rate, defence is good, better than SW35 but worse than NS9900 as expected. I only got the chance to hit one "all out" smash, and I aimed it at my friend to see how he would cope, as he has a good defence. But this smash went right through him, the shuttle was passed him before he reacted. I forgot to do my usually manual flexing test, but I dont think it is as stiff as the NS9900 or SW35.

I need more testing before I do anything about this racket, it isnt mine, I just borrowed it off my friend, while he tried the NS9900. Another thing is that the racket was strung to my preference, (ie BG80@26lbs) so I got accurate testing. Which always helps when determining you choice of racket. It was the PG version as well, nice golden finish :)

Maybe a bit more testing before I decide wheter to get it for Christmas or not.:)

[LD rules!]

also maybe a small comparison with the 8dx demo i tried a last week.

The 8DX felt lighter net weight, less power and less head heavy, defence felt similar, but 10 o
I feel had better power than the 8. Might consider buying the 10.:)

[what07]

also maybe a small comparison with the 8dx demo i tried a last week.

The 8DX felt lighter net weight, less power and less head heavy, defence felt similar, but 10 o
I feel had better power than the 8. Might consider buying the 10.:)

What happen to buying another SW35??? :eek:

[LD rules!]

What happen to buying another SW35??? :eek:

I am interested in having a collection of rackets, now I have a small after school job, I can sort of afford to buy rackets more often, as well as saving for other things. But this racket my parents are buying me, so I thought I would have a look at even balanced rackets, as I don't own one yet. I was pleasantly suprised with the power I got from the Arc10 and it had a good defence. It's overall weight has attracted me as well, it doesn't feel light, but at the same time it isn't really heavy (3U) so it's definetly a possible contender.

I need a racket for my XD tournaments anyway, so I need better defence.:)

[what07]

That's what I like about the Arc10. It doesn't feel heavy nor light and even balance. Easy to pick up and do anything with it. Hope you enjoy it.

[LD rules!]

That's what I like about the Arc10. It doesn't feel heavy nor light and even balance. Easy to pick up and do anything with it. Hope you enjoy it.

yeah it seemed great, will maybe do some more testing, but it looks likely that I will get one for Xmas.:)

[demolidor]

yeah it seemed great, will maybe do some more testing, but it looks likely that I will get one for Xmas.:)

Was searching for something when I read the following: :D


Traitor :p:p:p:p you can't switch from the SW35 to a Arc10PG, that is just unacceptable. ;)

Was it still the PG version you tried? (If you can you should try both at the same time ....)

[LD rules!]

Was searching for something when I read the following: :D

;)

Was it still the PG version you tried? (If you can you should try both at the same time ....)

It was the PG version I tried, what do you mean I should try both at the same time ? You mean try SW35 and Arc10 at same time, or Arc10 and Arc10PG at the same time. ?

[demolidor]

It was the PG version I tried, what do you mean I should try both at the same time ? You mean try SW35 and Arc10 at same time, or Arc10 and Arc10PG at the same time. ?

Yes the original and PG one ... Then again you will probably just stick to getting a single one (so it won't make much difference anyway). A nice collector's item in any case http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif (strange they haven't designed a matching bag now that I think of it ... Can always get a white Yonex clothbag though :cool:)

[LD rules!]

Yes the original and PG one ... Then again you will probably just stick to getting a single one (so it won't make much difference anyway). A nice collector's item in any case http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif (strange they haven't designed a matching bag now that I think of it ... Can always get a white Yonex clothbag though :cool:)

well I tried the normal Arc10 yesterday (red one) and it felt just the same as the PG version, I quite like both of them. I think this Arc10 was strung higher than the PG one, maybe 28lbs, but still somehow managed a backhand cross court clear, despite the shuttle being taken quite late. :) quite impressed.

[concretemad]

well I tried the normal Arc10 yesterday (red one) and it felt just the same as the PG version, I quite like both of them. I think this Arc10 was strung higher than the PG one, maybe 28lbs, but still somehow managed a backhand cross court clear, despite the shuttle being taken quite late. :) quite impressed.

with tat kinda shot, my opinion, it has nothing to do with the racket. its the taker's skill :).

[maxp74]

To make a long story short, I got myself a number of different rackets about six months ago. The goal was to find the best singles racket for me. Among them an Arc 10 PG. First few months I did prefer other rackets. The Arc 10 was to much in the middle of everything. Nanospeed is faster, Armortec is more powerful. I also have a long love for the carbonex series mostly due to its solid feeling.

After some time however I tended to pick the Arc 10 more often. The reasons:

It's very predictable. My game doesn't suffer in any part. I can do all shoots as I want. I don't have to adjust my style of play due to my racket. It is very stable and the shuttle ends up where it is should.

The best thing is actually it's all round abilities, the very reason i didn't use it in the beginning. It's not the best at anything but all things put together it has the least flaws and therefore it turns out a winner for me.

The other rackets i bought at (about) the same time was the following:

Nanospeed 6000: A very good racket but the flex makes it a bit unpredictable when you push the power a bit.

Nanospeed 7000: Even better than the 6000 and I still use it for doubbles. It's stiff and predictable but lacks some of the effortless power you like so much in singles.

Ti 10 (3U): The racket that feels most like an Arc 10 balance wise. It's a tad to stiff for my taste. Suits better for doubbles.

Armortec 700 (3U): Loads of power but that's all you get. Every other aspect of the game suffer.

Cab 35 (3U): Has it all but is short. I'm a cab lover since two decades but short is out now and I can't go back again.

Cab 30 (3U): The best contender. Half the price of an Arc 10 and as good in nearly all aspects. Looses on the line because Arc 10 has a bigger sweet spot and can take higher tension.

Arc Z-Slash (3U): The mystery! Has it all but I can't really connect with it. I will try other strings.

Other rackets i will try is Voltric 70, Arc 8dx, Arc 5dx, Arc 7, Nanospeed 8000 and AR900 P and T. I have high hops for Voltric 70. However, I have ordered another two Arc 10. It's good enough...

[blindfury]

Among them an Arc 10 PG.

So there is really no difference between regular Arc and PG edition eh?

[maxp74]

So there is really no difference between regular Arc and PG edition eh?

None, what so ever!

[Blisse]

Well red looks more intimidating than white. Fierce even. White looks kind of soft. No offense. I would've bought the PG edition if it didn't cost more and if it was in stock though. White is pretty.

I'm getting my AS10 next week, so I can hopefully have some impressions then. Hopefully I can warrant buying it.

[Brian2000]

AS10 is awesome, I have used it for a year now. Good smash, but not 100% accuracy, I can't seems to get the birdie land on the spot where I want it to if I smash. The racket is a little too heavy for intense defence in double games.

I finally got the NS9900 it's a much lighter racket I can smash and have the birdie land on where I want it to land. Defending with NS9900 is a breeze compare to AS10. But the smashes from NS9900 is around 25% slower than my AS10.:cool:

[Blisse]

Wow! All I can say is it's a very nice feeling having a good racquet in my hands. I might not be able to tap into its fully power, or differentiate between the top racquets, but it's a huge upgrade from what I have been using.

I generate power effortlessly, and when I connect, it's a beautiful feeling. Trying to connect more rather than use power now.

AS10@24lbs BG65

[kwun]

Arc10. gentlemen.

AS10 is the abbreviation for Aerosena 10 which is Yonex's shuttlecock line.

having said that. the Arc10 is an awesome racket. it has been my main racket for the past couple of year now.

[Blisse]

Arc10. gentlemen.

AS10 is the abbreviation for Aerosena 10 which is Yonex's shuttlecock line.

having said that. the Arc10 is an awesome racket. it has been my main racket for the past couple of year now.

FUU i like saying "as-ten" ^^
"arc-ten" doesn't have as nice ring.
shuttles are a product line? -.-"

[Blitzzards]

FUU i like saying "as-ten" ^^
"arc-ten" doesn't have as nice ring.
shuttles are a product line? -.-"
Do you see an "as-ten" or AS10 in this Yonex JP racquet chart with all the official abbreviations?

http://www.yonex.co.jp/products/images/badracquets/matrix.jpg

As an analogy, lets say you prefer/like to drive on the right side on the road but when you visit a Commonwealth country or UK, do you still insist on driving on the right side of the road? Your actions will arise confusion in other people, as what your calling of Arcsabre 10 as "AS10" (which is really Yonex Aerosensa 10) now as and will even be outright breaking the law :p

[kwun]

Do you see an "as-ten" or AS10 in this Yonex JP racquet chart with all the official abbreviations?

As an analogy, lets say you prefer/like to drive on the right side on the road but when you visit a Commonwealth country or UK, do you still insist on driving on the right side of the road? Your actions will arise confusion in other people, as what your calling of Arcsabre 10 as "AS10" (which is really Yonex Aerosensa 10) now as and will even be outright breaking the law :p

it is indeed Yonex's official abbreviation.

don't get too worked up on it. you are assuming he has reached driving age... ;)

[Blisse]

:D nope can't drive yet hah! And I don't pay attention to the charts very much. Would rather play by my feel of the racquet.
I'll use ARC10 from now on. But I'll always be thinking of AS10. Hehe, sorry!

I think it's just a problem with me, but I find when I swing downward too fast, the racquet has too much momentum and keeps moving. With my previous racquets, I never had a problem stopping before it goes past 90 degrees. Also it vibrates quite a bit depending on how I hit it. I think my grip is too loose?

[SlaShEr]

after sitting comfortably in my bag for 3 weeks, i sent my 'lady in red' for some new string.

Re gripped with a new Karakal Super PU grip, tightly wrapped around since it's a G3 ( really tight that i stretched the Super PU till it loses its spongy feel :p )

NBG-98 at 26lbs was her new outfit, and boy, the first 2 games, i went back in love again, head over heels. That feel...phew~ :rolleyes: now I remember why i love and why i still love and keep my Arc 10. :cool:

But NBG-98 seems to lose tension quickly, towards the 5th XD game, that 'liveliness', that feel..slowly going away..sigh~ :o
Will try to string it 2lbs higher next time, so it won't drop way down my comfortable playing tension.

[Lukasy]

How stiff is the Arc 10? I now play with a 4U Armortec 600 and I would try the Arc 10 but I'm a little afraid about the stifness. Can you guys help me?

[DanhNguyen5.3]

How stiff is the Arc 10? I now play with a 4U Armortec 600 and I would try the Arc 10 but I'm a little afraid about the stifness. Can you guys help me?

Its just stiff, not as stiff as NS8k or 99k but its pretty stiff and feels uncomfortable at first if your use to a flexible racket, but when you get a hang of it, you'll love it.

[Lukasy]

Its just stiff, not as stiff as NS8k or 99k but its pretty stiff and feels uncomfortable at first if your use to a flexible racket, but when you get a hang of it, you'll love it.
I already tried one and I don't like it :(

[Penshurst]

may i know is there any known differences between arc 10 and arc 10 pg ?

[zombiez]

may i know is there any known differences between arc 10 and arc 10 pg ?

One is red and one is white.

[Penshurst]

One is red and one is white.
in terms of usesability?

[allyjack110]

after sitting comfortably in my bag for 3 weeks, i sent my 'lady in red' for some new string.

Re gripped with a new Karakal Super PU grip, tightly wrapped around since it's a G3 ( really tight that i stretched the Super PU till it loses its spongy feel :p )

NBG-98 at 26lbs was her new outfit, and boy, the first 2 games, i went back in love again, head over heels. That feel...phew~ :rolleyes: now I remember why i love and why i still love and keep my Arc 10. :cool:

But NBG-98 seems to lose tension quickly, towards the 5th XD game, that 'liveliness', that feel..slowly going away..sigh~ :o
Will try to string it 2lbs higher next time, so it won't drop way down my comfortable playing tension.

I have a question regarding the Arc's maximum tension. According to Yonex the maximum recommended tension for an arc 10 is 24lbs. Yet, I notice that a lot of guys on this forum like to string there Arc 10s much higher than 24lbs; some as high as 30lbs. My question is, if the Arc 10 (or any high-end Yonex) can easily handle 28lbs and above why do Yonex still on insist on understating their max tensions? I already have an Arc 10 (UK) and my usual tension is a tame 23lbs so it doesn't really affect me. I'm just curious. Sorry if this has already been discussed but I can't be bothered reading 83 pages worth of comments.

[CanucksDynasty]

I have a question regarding the Arc's maximum tension. According to Yonex the maximum recommended tension for an arc 10 is 24lbs. Yet, I notice that a lot of guys on this forum like to string there Arc 10s much higher than 24lbs; some as high as 30lbs. My question is, if the Arc 10 (or any high-end Yonex) can easily handle 28lbs and above why do Yonex still on insist on understating their max tensions? I already have an Arc 10 (UK) and my usual tension is a tame 23lbs so it doesn't really affect me. I'm just curious. Sorry if this has already been discussed but I can't be bothered reading 83 pages worth of comments.

I think it has to do with Yonex warranty (1-year) on the racket. They recommend max 24lbs. Any higher tension will void the warranty if the racket breaks upon stringing.

[Ferrerkiko]

Hi Bros : Does any bros here have any review of ARC10PG Peter gade racket. Wonder how is this racket performance ?

Thought of buying it , and wonder can it string to 28 tension ?

[allyjack110]

I think it has to do with Yonex warranty (1-year) on the racket. They recommend max 24lbs. Any higher tension will void the warranty if the racket breaks upon stringing.

I suspected so. My rackets, including my ARC are strung at no higher than 23lbs so it doesn't really affect me too much. Anything higher than 23 and I would probably be struggling. One of the coaches at my current club, who was part of the Scotland set-up in her younger days, currently plays at 24lbs.

[allyjack110]

How robust is the Arcsaber 10? In other words, can it withstand a 'clash' now and again? I haven't experienced a clash with either yet which is why I'm asking despite already owning two - sorry! My usual tension is 23 lbs but recently upgraded to 24lbs (I'm living dangerously now). The maximum recommended tension for the Arc 10 is 24lbs. Both of mine are UK 3U/G3. I know a lot of guys on this forum string a lot higher than 24lbs. I'm just wondering if the Arc 10 can withstand 24lbs without me needing to worry about the added stress the frame. I bought my first one two months ago and the second one last week. Absolutely love them both. They feel incredibly well-made and solid bits of engineering. However, the frame where the CS Carban Nanotube has been added looks significantly thinner compared to my other rackets. Any comments from other Arc 10 users would be appreciated.

Thank you

[Blitzzards]

How robust is the Arcsaber 10? In other words, can it withstand a 'clash' now and again? I haven't experienced a clash with either yet which is why I'm asking despite already owning two - sorry! My usual tension is 23 lbs but recently upgraded to 24lbs (I'm living dangerously now). The maximum recommended tension for the Arc 10 is 24lbs. Both of mine are UK 3U/G3. I know a lot of guys on this forum string a lot higher than 24lbs. I'm just wondering if the Arc 10 can withstand 24lbs without me needing to worry about the added stress the frame. I bought my first one two months ago and the second one last week. Absolutely love them both. They feel incredibly well-made and solid bits of engineering. However, the frame where the CS Carban Nanotube has been added looks significantly thinner compared to my other rackets.
Don't EVEN THINK ABOUT clashing your racquet. Even if you are strung at 18lbs within your "maximum warranted tension" of 24lbs, a clash CAN STILL KILL YOUR RACQUET if you are unlucky and NO RACQUET MANUFACTURER will replace your racquet for you even if it is still within the warranty period. It is easy to tell if it a racquet broke from a clash so Yonex WILL NOT HAVE MERCY on you.

The meaning of "in case the racquet breaks during stringing at the warranted stringing tensions" has NOTHING TO DO WITH ACTUAL PLAY ESPECIALLY CLASHES. The Yonex warranty will only allow you to claim if your stringer AND NOT YOU break the racquet during stringing at the "recommended" (more like Yonex's warranted tensions which has NOTHING TO DO WITH PLAYABILITY). Technically speaking with the technology Yonex has on the Arc10, you can very well string it up to 36lbs and NOT BREAK IT provided that your stringing technique is good enough and your stringing machine is also good. EVEN AT 36lbs (which is WAY OUT OF THE "RECOMMENDED tension" in your language) the Arc10 can still be played with normally.

Personally I have done my Arc10 at 31lbs when it was brand new and it is at least 6 months old now, still strung. I have used it to play doubles and now mostly singles only. Due to my technique my racquet is still looking brand new with no marks of damage at all. What does this tell you?

[Blitzzards]

Don't EVEN THINK ABOUT clashing your racquet. Even if you are strung at 18lbs within your "maximum warranted tension" of 24lbs, a clash CAN STILL KILL YOUR RACQUET if you are unlucky and NO RACQUET MANUFACTURER will replace your racquet for you even if it is still within the warranty period. It is easy to tell if it a racquet broke from a clash so Yonex WILL NOT HAVE MERCY on you.

The meaning of "in case the racquet breaks during stringing at the warranted stringing tensions" has NOTHING TO DO WITH ACTUAL PLAY ESPECIALLY CLASHES. The Yonex warranty will only allow you to claim if your stringer AND NOT YOU break the racquet during stringing at the "recommended" (more like Yonex's warranted tensions which has NOTHING TO DO WITH PLAYABILITY). Technically speaking with the technology Yonex has on the Arc10, you can very well string it up to 36lbs and NOT BREAK IT provided that your stringing technique is good enough and your stringing machine is also good. EVEN AT 36lbs (which is WAY OUT OF THE "RECOMMENDED tension" in your language) the Arc10 can still be played with normally.

Personally I have done my Arc10 at 31lbs when it was brand new and it is at least 6 months old now, still strung. I have used it to play doubles and now mostly singles only. Due to my technique my racquet is still looking brand new with no marks of damage at all. What does this tell you?
It seems that no one but me has been replying to such questions with scientific logic lately (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php/97931-above-30lb-string-tension?p=1677427&viewfull=1#post1677427). And yet with my explanation in the other thread no one is bothering to read it (typical of new BCers don't everyone think).

If no one has any objections on my point, is it possible if my explanation in the other post (which I am pretty much paraphrasing in every other thread where a new one repeats the same question in a different way) be stickied and be a point of reference?

Advanced thanks to the admin and mods.

[Accordaz]

Is the Arcsaber 10 playable for an intermediate player?
I know I have to improve my smash move, otherwise I actually have a racket which is really really not powerful and not that stiff I'd like to have.
It's a Yonex Carbonex (ix?) 14, blue.

[SleepyEyedBoyZ]

in terms of usesability?

Just a color difference. It doesn't means having a PG name on it will makes the racket extra powerful. It's down to personal preference of the color. Like I like white racket as compared to red, I'll go for PG than the normal arc 10.

[blindfury]

Anyone would like to share the weight of his 3U Arc10 or 2U Arc10?

[Accordaz]

Hi guys

I just wanted to share my minds to this and other rackets:D
Its just a renewed posting (from the voltric 80 thread):

Arcsaber 10 (3UG4) is neither head heavy nor grip heavy. So it's well balanced. The first impression was absolutely nothing special. It felt like a "normal" racket like any others and it is NOT a light racket (3U).
It was strunged with Ashaway ??? strings. All except the drives were easy to play. In my opinion the Arcsaber 10 isnt that "fast" because of his "heavyness" and balance point. That's the only negative point I have to mention about Arcsaber 10. It is NOT the best racket for double's! But its a GREAT allround racket.

In comparison with...

Voltric 80 (4U, original string, BG68TI): Arc10 is easier to play (especially all the backhand moves), because VT80 is head heavy; But the Arc10 feels heavier in the hand; VT80 is significantly better in smashes;
Nanospeed 8000: Arc10 >>>>> NS8000; NS8000 felt like a low range racket - in MY opinion; It totally didnt match to me that's why its unplayed since weeks
Nanospeed 7700: NS7700 (from my colleague) feels very quick and still generates enough power for smashes; It is a completely another racket than the Arc10; Arc10 feels almost heavy in comparison with it. Arc10 generate logically more power in smashes
Nanospeed 9900 (original string): THE ultimate double or defensive racket. No wonder why there are a lot players who loves this racket. I would love it too. Its model number (9900) matches to its performance. It feels extremely light (cause of its grip heavyness), quick and controllable. But it lacks in generating power for smashes. That means it needs more effort for a good smash. It would be my second choice. In the other hands: I believe that this racket wouldnt improve my techniques because of its "simpleness". It's too easy to play with it:rolleyes: That's why Arc10 is the better choice -> It's more demanding (have to be more precise) and its much more powerful in smashes.
Li Ning N90-2 (Woods, original string): I played it once and it really doesnt match to me 'cause of its heaviness and head heaviness. Absolutely not that easy to play. But well, its known for its head heaviness :)

To sum up: I've found MY racket. It will be Arcsaber 10 (Peter Gade Edition :D)

I could imagine to get a Voltric80 in the next 6 - 12 months; I would recommend all to test the Voltric80. It's a really amazing and fast racket (first impression was: wow!!!). The only reason why I'm getting the Arc10 and not the VT80 is:
I'm just an amateur player, no tournaments, no membership in a badminton club. I just play with 1 - 2 friend(s) (amateur level like me) twice a week. That means I believe that I'm not good enough to handle the VT80 and I still have to improve a lot my techniques (they're still not clear and smooth as it has to be)

If I'd had too much money left I would go for these rackets:

Doubles: Nanospeed 7700 / Nanospeed 9900
Allround: Arcsaber 10 (3U)
Offensive: Voltric 80 (4U)

I hope this posting will help some players here (especially the amateur players) :)

BTW: Sorry for my english. If there are any mistakes, just feel free to comment /correct my mistakes