With the LD outburst, claiming he was the rightful champion in the KO, everyone is eagerly waiting for the ALL-England for a 'showdown' of the rightful champion.

If LD is not going to be suspended (but my bet is he will), then the ALL-England will become a very much watched tournament. The Koreans will be out to prove LHI, with or without 'help from linesmen' will equally be as potent. The year has been prolific for LHI so far (one win and one runners-up) - the best so far. With a keyed up coach in Li Mao who will be no less motivated (after being swung at with a racket by an ill-mannered LD), LHI will definitely by fuelled further.

The other Lee (my favourite one) is working hard to chase his first ALL-England. He has been close but this year will probably give him the best opportunity. His form has been terrific, losing to LD on China's soil is no shame (with so much against him). Winning the MO proves he is in contention for titles this year. Even though the aim is the Olympics, I am pretty sure LCW is going to play his hearts out for the first ALL-ENGLAND.

With a combined force of two 'Lees', I kinda feel the ground may not hold for LD this year. The pressure is going to mount. For that reason, I choose to go with a 'Lee' for a win in 2008.

;):):D

I think it will a drab affair. Lin Dan will win.

Don't forget TH too, if LD is suspended, it will be his chance of now or never.

I think it will a drab affair. Lin Dan will win.


What if he doesn't ? Care to have a friendly wager ?

What if he doesn't ? Care to have a friendly wager ?No need - I'll be correct;).

Dont Forget The Whole Malaysia Team Too!!!;)

I hope Chong Wei can win it this year.:D

With the LD outburst, claiming he was the rightful champion in the KO, everyone is eagerly waiting for the ALL-England for a 'showdown' of the rightful champion.

If LD is not going to be suspended (but my bet is he will), then the ALL-England will become a very much watched tournament. The Koreans will be out to prove LHI, with or without 'help from linesmen' will equally be as potent. The year has been prolific for LHI so far (one win and one runners-up) - the best so far. With a keyed up coach in Li Mao who will be no less motivated (after being swung at with a racket by an ill-mannered LD), LHI will definitely by fuelled further.

The other Lee (my favourite one) is working hard to chase his first ALL-England. He has been close but this year will probably give him the best opportunity. His form has been terrific, losing to LD on China's soil is no shame (with so much against him). Winning the MO proves he is in contention for titles this year. Even though the aim is the Olympics, I am pretty sure LCW is going to play his hearts out for the first ALL-ENGLAND.

With a combined force of two 'Lees', I kinda feel the ground may not hold for LD this year. The pressure is going to mount. For that reason, I choose to go with a 'Lee' for a win in 2008.

;):):D

LD will show u who is the real boss in the neutral ground. less chance for the village champion (LCW & LHI):D

If LD is not suspended, he will show all of us who is no. 1 on neutral turf.
He too is all fired up to take revenge! :eek:
So watch out LHI et all! :rolleyes:

Wah, it is going to be difficult for our PAWs! :(

No need - I'll be correct;).


If you are correct and I am correct who will be wrong ?;)

There is the factor of hidayat and that he has never won an all england title.
If he manages to get himself motivated and starts playing how we all know he can play, then the MS tournament should be a very interresting affair.
Another Hidayat factor is that noone really sees him winning this title, most people expect Lee Chong Wei or Lin Dan winning, wich makes Hidayat kind of the underdog. And most of his grand titles has been won from that possition.

LD will show u who is the real boss in the neutral ground. less chance for the village champion (LCW & LHI):D

I hope he does else I would have the biggest last laugh on you.:D

The other Lee (my favourite one) is working hard to chase his first ALL-England. ................Winning the MO proves he is in contention for titles this year. Even though the aim is the Olympics, I am pretty sure LCW is going to play his hearts out for the first ALL-ENGLAND.

With a combined force of two 'Lees', I kinda feel the ground may not hold for LD this year. The pressure is going to mount. For that reason, I choose to go with a 'Lee' for a win in 2008.

;):):D

You may be half right - could be a "Lee", but not the Lees we expect, could the Lee from Spore,the other Lee from Msia.

Or both you & Cheung could be wrong, no Lees or Lins, somebody with name difficult to pronounce, he he.

Kendrick Lee ?? :eek:

Kendrick Lee ?? :eek:

Hahahahahahahaha ....:eek::eek::eek::eek:

SHOCKING INDEED! :D:D:D:D:D

X Ball I wanna bet too :D...
LD FTW... if not BCL FTW (though less likely than a comet crashing down on the stadium :p)

This year promises to deliver Taufik Hidayat's swan song ;)

The question is:
will it be at the All England Open 2008 or the Beijing Olympics 2008? :cool:

This year promises to deliver Taufik Hidayat's swan song ;)

The question is:
will it be at the All England Open 2008 or the Beijing Olympics 2008? :cool:

Neither me thinks, despite the sentiments of him going out with a bang (could be a whimper)

If you are correct and I am correct who will be wrong ?;)
I never said anything about you being correct:D:D

Hahahahahahahaha ....:eek::eek::eek::eek:

SHOCKING INDEED! :D:D:D:D:Dmaybe more PAW points for u, again :D

This might be Taufik's last ALL England tournament.

My awesome-est predictions - Lin Dan crashes out in the first round, beaten by LHI (this time theres going to be another squabble between LD and LM, and LD's going to jump throw his racket at him) ^^

Then the finals would be PG and LCW, LCW belts it and takes it in straight sets, 21-4 and 21-6.

the End ^^

xing ai ying???:eek::eek::rolleyes:;)

xing ai ying???:eek::eek::rolleyes:;)

I tot we are talking about MS..??:D

I think TH will go all out for this AE....maybe his last....so watch out for TH ....No LD,....No LCW......No LHI....just TH....;)

I never said anything about you being correct:D:D

Neither did I say anything about you being correct.:D:D I can go on forever with this.:D

My awesome-est predictions - Lin Dan crashes out in the first round, beaten by LHI (this time theres going to be another squabble between LD and LM, and LD's going to jump throw his racket at him) ^^

Then the finals would be PG and LCW, LCW belts it and takes it in straight sets, 21-4 and 21-6.

the End ^^

EDDEX, we are friends for life !:D

X Ball I wanna bet too :D...
LD FTW... if not BCL FTW (though less likely than a comet crashing down on the stadium :p)


How can you bet when you don't have satays in China ?:D

Neither me thinks, despite the sentiments of him going out with a bang (could be a whimper)

Could be with a bang too... bang table, bang racket, bang divider....;);):D

Hahahahahahahaha ....:eek::eek::eek::eek:

SHOCKING INDEED! :D:D:D:D:D

Loh, what is story with Li Li ? Read in the news today, she may give up badminton (and at 25). Sounds like she is not a happy chappy. What have you not done to her ?:D

What??? Lee Chong Wei Not coming to this one??

Lee chong wei will play in this tournament....
in fact, LCW aiming to win this tournament also..

There are two situations in which TH always come out as a winner.

1. When noone predicts hims as winner
2. When the champiosnhip is his last one.

Remember what happened during the last Olympic and WC 05?? TH was the underdog...
Remember the last Asian Games.....It was TH's last participation in the Games.....

So for this AE 08....please underestimate him...the more he is underestimated, the more powerful he will be....:D

Yes...LD, LCW and LHI are the strongets candidates to win...

EDDEX, we are friends for life !:D

Of course nobody can stop you guys from DREAMING, em, maybe our friend from London, Dreamzzzzz can.... :D

Lee chong wei will play in this tournament....
in fact, LCW aiming to win this tournament also..

Hello George Chong Wei, do you have the confidence ... to win the PAWs yourself? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Loh, what is story with Li Li ? Read in the news today, she may give up badminton (and at 25). Sounds like she is not a happy chappy. What have you not done to her ?:D

Oh no, I can't help her of course.

Well I have posted a news report on her sorry case earlier. Conflicting reasons like losing her Singaporean boyfriend, feeling tired of badminton, lost motivation because she has not been improving, not winning at international tournaments....,:(

But if a girl should lose her boyfriend and vice versa, a matter of the heart, it would seem there is no more motivation in life to get on for many. It takes time to heal, some much, much longer. Therefore it is not strange to see the affected one losing all interest and performing poorly as a result!

How can you bet when you don't have satays in China ?:D

I wouldn't bet on that man! You may have to lose your pants!

They have the gigantic ones. Whereas the normal satays are held up by satay sticks, those is China need iron hooks, Yes, we're talking about the roasted pig. (Sorry, no disrespect to our Muslim friends.)

maybe more PAW points for u, again :D

You need to take more risk my friend. ;)

In your last PAW, you were among those with very few losses, yet you failed to make it to the podium or even among the top 10 I believe. That is because you have been too cautious.

With our new scoring system, you need to attack more man! Being an all- rounder seems more secure, but if you play safe mostly, then you many not last the incessant attacks from your opponent! :rolleyes:

EDDEX, we are friends for life !:D

I'll bet a plate of hot & spicy chicken kebabs! :D It's a specialty here in Xiamen... :D Getting it to Malaysia fresh is a problem though :p

Of course nobody can stop you guys from DREAMING, em, maybe our friend from London, Dreamzzzzz can.... :D

eh?
what?
i'm a promoter of dreams, well, sleep essentially but you can't have one without the other.
it's just like the ad, something about coffee and coffeemate ... :p

Hello George Chong Wei, do you have the confidence ... to win the PAWs yourself? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
hmm, im now trying very hard like LCW to win this PAW game lo..
starting of the year its a bit hard..:D:p

There are two situations in which TH always come out as a winner.

1. When noone predicts hims as winner
2. When the championship is his last one.

Remember what happened during the last Olympic and WC 05?? TH was the underdog...
Remember the last Asian Games.....It was TH's last participation in the Games.....


surely u know more detail about TH than me. but I never heard it before that OG 04 & WC 05 was his last participations. did he says it to the int'l media or just Ina's media?
I thought TH says OG 08 was the last OG for him, but not OG 04.

I hope he does else I would have the biggest last laugh on you.:D

don't worry. he'll make it!:p

surely u know more detail about TH than me. but I never heard it before that OG 04 & WC 05 was his last participations. did he says it to the int'l media or just Ina's media?
I thought TH says OG 08 was the last OG for him, but not OG 04.

Indra meant : Point no 2 ) Last participation refering to Asian Games 2006. 2006 last AG for Taufik. Taufik alread said he wanted to retire after OG 2008 to focus on family (correct me if I'm wrong Indra & Taufik-ist). Next AG is 2010, taufik would have retired, unless aft OG 2008 taufik change his mind.

Point no 1) Underdog..... was refering to OG 2004, WC 2005. Taufik still young then.


And therefore, AE 2008 could very well be Taufik's last AE, he will try his hardest to win.

this is taufik's last AE, possibly... chong wei wants to win it for the 1st time, before the olympics... if the draw permits, i think it could be a Taufik-Chong Wei final... then it will be very interesting for those reasons.... im hoping for it, no matter who wins! would be a nice final, end-to-end stuff, a close fought affair...

r we just focus on MS???
then how bout MD???
i'm preety sure it's gonna be hot to...:D

In this kind of sport, MS is always the most attention grabbed. Like tennis!!!

I support TH for his last AE championship...hopefully all the way that he will go is smooth no hard opponent...I really want to see TH hold his first and last gold medal....

I believe everyone want to be a champion here but you know what....
TH really deserves it....How beautiful it is if he can be a champion here.....

No doubt... it will be very hard.... I'm really curious how he prepares himself this month and will show us a surprise that we didn't see in the past year.

MD : 4 highset world rank will be the big candidate...
WD, MS : China will win it for sure (I've thought about tine rasmussen and korean WD)

XD : China, INA (Big chances on INA)---> May be Korean pair can make it!!!!

:):):)

I see this AE as one of the most open in years. With the ascendency of WS players from outside of CHN and the unbearable pressure put upon his players by LYB, we could see some major cracks in the Great Wall.

MS: LD v the world. His supporting cast has faltered badly and won't be able to offer the protection he's used to. Watch for LCW, PG, KJ, LHI and TH to make some noise. If TH wins it, I'll eat my hat (I have many so I won't miss one :D). Just want to see a final where the only projectile flying across the net is the shuttle.

WS: The mystique and aura of the CHN women have been shattered with their recent inconsistent run. XXF starts as favourite but the HK threesome (ZM, WC and Yippy), Tine (DEN), Jun (KOR) and WMC (MAS) must surely test the creaking CHN team to the limit.

MD: Open to any of the favourites. FHF/CY, MK/HS, KKK/TBH must start in pole position. Throw in vets Tony/Candra, the old men of DEN (2 pairs), Luluk & Alven and any KOR pair and you have a firecracker of a competition. Oddly enough, CY/FHF have done very well in the AE. They must like the Chinese food in the UK :D.

WD: Must concede this one to CHN. The quality and quantity of their WD is overwhelming. Will also allow LYB to play "games". The question is who he selects to lift the crown. I would like to see Du/Yu beat the living daylights out of everyone, including their countrywomen.

XD: Open season for any of the top pairs, and there are many. At home, NR/GM will be really tough. Any DEN pair will be competitive. The Koreans are resurgent but can they play without patriotic linesmen? That said, the usual suspects from CHN and INA should plough through. Wouldn't it be nice to see Sudket/Saralee wipe out a few of said pairs.

Watch me change my mind in a couple of weeks before the competition starts...:D:D

MS: LD 50%, LCW 30%, TH 5%, LHI 5%, others share the remaining 10%. I stick to my theory about TH: if TH really cares about OG, he will treat 08 AE as part of his preparation for OG as he is simply not able to peak twice in 6 months. Therefore doesn't matter whether TH is able to recover to his 05 form or not, he will not win this AE.

TH haters: please understand me correctly. I am not saying "TH will not try to do his best".

XD: Limpele/Vita 30%, Nova/Natsir 15%, XZB/ZYW 10%, HHB/YY 10%, LYD/LHJ 10%, Sudket/Saralee 10%, others share the remaining 15%. Rumor has it (and actually you can tell from their on/off-court behaviors toward the end of last year) that there is some bad feeling between ZB and GL, therefore I do not include them. If they can settle that, they would have the same chance as Limpele/Vita and all percentage should be accordingly changed.

MD: Kido/Setiawan 30%, FHF/CY 20%, Paaske/Rasmussen 15%, KKK/TBH 10%, CTF/LWW 5%, others share the remaining 20%.

With his recent performance, Setiawan will dominate whoever dares to challenge him at the net, even KKK.

don't worry. he'll make it!:p


I don't need to worry -- LD will be worrying.

AE 2008, being competed in OG year, could bring us some surprises like MO & KO 2008. All players are working hard to gain as OG pts, esp those in the borderline of the cut off mark. So, winners could be surprise winners.

A surprise winner would be interesting, I like pleasant surprises, no shocking surprises hopefully, Yonex will be angry if their product keeps getting thrown from one end to the other, he he.

[Watch me change my mind in a couple of weeks before the competition starts...:D:D

It seems that the US welcomes changes, as a result of which Obama is still in the running, even against "very powerful" fellow Democrat Hilary!

But for you Mr Madbad, it is unlikely that you can change much of your prediction. You almost covered everything and leave nothing to change! :D

It seems that the US welcomes changes, as a result of which Obama is still in the running, even against "very powerful" fellow Democrat Hilary!

But for you Mr Madbad, it is unlikely that you can change much of your prediction. You almost covered everything and leave nothing to change! :D

Uncle Loh, sharp as always. I will whittle down my large list to a winner and dark horse prior to the AE. More fun picking the Dark Horse, me thinks.

nah, you're wrong, well in my case at least.
i'm more interested in the results of the MD competition, i think the standard here is very even amongst the top few pairs in the world.

for MS, i find it hard to see anyone stopping LD or LCW, providing they are not injured.

TH is always a possibility, PG has been faltering lately (if i were to choose a candidate from DEN i'd pick KJ). BCL, CJ, CH and CY have been off the boil. LHI is a good shout, he's proven that he can do well even with unbiased judges (in the MO). anyone else is an unlikely outsider.

In this kind of sport, MS is always the most attention grabbed. Like tennis!!!

I support TH for his last AE championship...hopefully all the way that he will go is smooth no hard opponent...I really want to see TH hold his first and last gold medal....

I believe everyone want to be a champion here but you know what....
TH really deserves it....How beautiful it is if he can be a champion here.....

No doubt... it will be very hard.... I'm really curious how he prepares himself this month and will show us a surprise that we didn't see in the past year.

MD : 4 highset world rank will be the big candidate...
WD, MS : China will win it for sure (I've thought about tine rasmussen and korean WD)

XD : China, INA (Big chances on INA)---> May be Korean pair can make it!!!!

:):):)

You need to take more risk my friend. ;)

In your last PAW, you were among those with very few losses, yet you failed to make it to the podium or even among the top 10 I believe. That is because you have been too cautious.

With our new scoring system, you need to attack more man! Being an all- rounder seems more secure, but if you play safe mostly, then you many not last the incessant attacks from your opponent! :rolleyes:
You are very observant Loh;) Yes, success ratio was 26/28. The KO SS was my first real PAW contest. When u pass me, maybe I'll follow your strategy:p

As always, INA's chances will come from either MD or XD, with a slim chance on MS.

Curiously enough, Kido/Hendra fail to reach even QF in the past 2 AEs, while Nova/Butet also fail to reach the Finals, beaten twice in the SFs (to Laybourn/Rytter-Juhl and then Nathan Robertson/Gail Emms).

I have a feeling Taufik might surprise us, but, Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei should be the obvious favorites, and throw in Lee Hyun Il and perhaps Peter Gade as dark-horses as well.

The MDs should be a fight between Fu/Cai, Kido/Hendra, Koo/Tan and the veteran pairs of Tony/Candra, Paaske/Rasmussen or Choong/Lee.

My hope is of course for Kido/Hendra (and Nova/Butet) to win the All-England this year to add to their World Championships crown last year!

Saw the topic, thought it would be about girls... :(

As always, INA's chances will come from either MD or XD, with a slim chance on MS.

Curiously enough, Kido/Hendra fail to reach even QF in the past 2 AEs, while Nova/Butet also fail to reach the Finals, beaten twice in the SFs (to Laybourn/Rytter-Juhl and then Nathan Robertson/Gail Emms).

I have a feeling Taufik might surprise us, but, Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei should be the obvious favorites, and throw in Lee Hyun Il and perhaps Peter Gade as dark-horses as well.

The MDs should be a fight between Fu/Cai, Kido/Hendra, Koo/Tan and the veteran pairs of Tony/Candra, Paaske/Rasmussen or Choong/Lee.

My hope is of course for Kido/Hendra (and Nova/Butet) to win the All-England this year to add to their World Championships crown last year!

We actually haven't seen Taufik in action for quite a while, unless Taufik trains extra hard else I don't see him making any impact in this tournament. We somehow still living in the past treasuring Tuafik victories and at some point it becomes "virtualization" that reality as his past achievement will not guarantee his future success(more like stock market :D) Simply, we need to wake up :D
Is quite obvious, Lin Dan is the one most probably will win, Chong Wei may come close but I don't see it happen if these 2 actually meet in the final.
Now, we really need Li Mao to create upset :D

I hope he does else I would have the biggest last laugh on you.:D

I don't need to worry -- LD will be worrying.

then I would laugh on you if LCW can't reach at least SF:D

For men's singles, I want to see either LCW or TH to lift their first AE title. But based on the history, CHN has been doing well in AE. Watch out for LD and BCL. LHI and PG are also the title contenders.

For men's doubles, KKK/TBH are having an uphill task to defend their title here. MK/HS and FHF/CY are the favorites. Don't forget the oldies like TG/CW, JE/MLH, LP/JR and CTF/LWW.

I am delighted to hear in the Press today that LCW wants to ensure that he will be in the AE Finals this year. It is about time that he exercises his right on this title. Misbun, the coach said LCW is now a more nature person to tackle the AE, so who am I to question that ? :)

I am delighted to hear in the Press today that LCW wants to ensure that he will be in the AE Finals this year. It is about time that he exercises his right on this title. Misbun, the coach said LCW is now a more nature person to tackle the AE, so who am I to question that ? :)

Action speaks louder than words, when Chong Wei actually brings the AE title home then we can start to celebrate ... Don't under-estimate the Chinese Army as they usually play very well in AE, the draw will determine Chong Wei's fate.

Action speaks louder than words, when Chong Wei actually brings the AE title home then we can start to celebrate ... Don't under-estimate the Chinese Army as they usually play very well in AE, the draw will determine Chong Wei's fate.

Yes agree - the chinese army is always intimidating - they have collective strengths. LCW needs to have a bit of luck (e.g. some of the other players knocking off the other Chinese players). But he is in good form.

I think LD is the man to beat, he is more fire-up after Korea open. LCW is good but not as good as LD. LHI is not there yet.

I think LD is the man to beat, he is more fire-up after Korea open. LCW is good but not as good as LD. LHI is not there yet.

So is LCW -- he is coming out of his skin.:D

We actually haven't seen Taufik in action for quite a while, unless Taufik trains extra hard else I don't see him making any impact in this tournament. We somehow still living in the past treasuring Tuafik victories and at some point it becomes "virtualization" that reality as his past achievement will not guarantee his future success(more like stock market :D) Simply, we need to wake up :D
Is quite obvious, Lin Dan is the one most probably will win, Chong Wei may come close but I don't see it happen if these 2 actually meet in the final.
Now, we really need Li Mao to create upset :D

interesting idea...............:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

I wonder whether Li Mao will be banned from the court side? :rolleyes:
If he is, then the Chinese coach should also be banned!

But I think LHI is calm enough to take them all! :D:D:D

I think there is no such thing as a "right on the title". Only the remaining two players can win the right to fight for it! :cool: Of course, the top players will have a better chance to win that right.

The title has to be fought hard and won in the end and not even past winners have a right at the onset. :)

Li Mao wont be banned from the courtside. He is the coach. But i do expect LYB to be there if ever both players will have a face off.

We shouldn't just look on the negative side about having coaches sitting on the sideline, I think having them there create more entertaining value which in fact is good for this sport. Li Yongbo will yell regardless where he sits anyway, so is Li Mao then why not putting these two charisma high-octane coaches next to one another? I know I will watch on court and off court performances for sure! I don't mean to create circus environment rather to create more entertainment value. Imagine Li Dan vs Lee Hyun Il with Li Mao and Li Yongbo on the sideline is like playing single with double partner!
If handling right, it will work!

We shouldn't just look on the negative side about having coaches sitting on the sideline, I think having them there create more entertaining value which in fact is good for this sport. Li Yongbo will yell regardless where he sits anyway, so is Li Mao then why not putting these two charisma high-octane coaches next to one another? I know I will watch on court and off court performances for sure! I don't mean to create circus environment rather to create more entertainment value. Imagine Li Dan vs Lee Hyun Il with Li Mao and Li Yongbo on the sideline is like playing single with double partner!
If handling right, it will work!


If Li Mao arms himself with a racket this time, it is not because he is playing.:D

I think Li Mao will get a tennis racket.

I wonder whether Li Mao will be banned from the court side? :rolleyes:
If he is, then the Chinese coach should also be banned!

But I think LHI is calm enough to take them all! :D:D:D

I think there is no such thing as a "right on the title". Only the remaining two players can win the right to fight for it! :cool: Of course, the top players will have a better chance to win that right.

The title has to be fought hard and won in the end and not even past winners have a right at the onset. :)

LOL, top man. Of course not, no one has the right to the title. They got to 'exercise' (fight) it first :)

LHI is a top player, nobody can deny. If anybody can stop LCW, it might be LHI. LCW struggled to overcome LHI in the MO and again in the KO. But I am keeping my fingers crossed, it was the fever affecting LCW.

I think Li Mao will get a tennis racket.

I think helmet is more practical :D

All England 2008 MS Draw:

LD vs Anup
BCL vs Hafiz
LHI vs CY
PGC vs Kendrick
Susilo vs TH
Sairul vs LCW

Li Mao wont be banned from the courtside. He is the coach. But i do expect LYB to be there if ever both players will have a face off.

We will of course, expect our fellow forummers converging on the NIA to report all the "grisly details" that might happen next ........ :D

We shouldn't just look on the negative side about having coaches sitting on the sideline, I think having them there create more entertaining value which in fact is good for this sport. Li Yongbo will yell regardless where he sits anyway, so is Li Mao then why not putting these two charisma high-octane coaches next to one another? I know I will watch on court and off court performances for sure! I don't mean to create circus environment rather to create more entertainment value. Imagine Li Dan vs Lee Hyun Il with Li Mao and Li Yongbo on the sideline is like playing single with double partner!
If handling right, it will work!

are we waiting for some JE BA BOOOOOMMMMMM !!!!!!!!?????:D:D:D:D

If Li Mao arms himself with a racket this time, it is not because he is playing.:D

will he play defensive or attack this time around?:D:D:D LD/LM better wear a safety helmet whenever there is a dispute line call...........or better all audiences at the stadium also wear one, just in case LD misses on his target again.:D:D:D

will he play defensive or attack this time around?:D:D:D LD/LM better wear a safety helmet whenever there is a dispute line call...........or better all audiences at the stadium also wear one, just in case LD misses on his target again.:D:D:D

I kinda suspect LD will be tame as a lamb this time.

All England 2008 MS Draw:

LD vs Anup
will it be possible for anup to make another suprise?
lets hope so,malaysians.

sorry china.

will he play defensive or attack this time around?:D:D:D LD/LM better wear a safety helmet whenever there is a dispute line call...........or better all audiences at the stadium also wear one, just in case LD misses on his target again.:D:D:D
Its quite personal.
but u seems cheer more than ever now.

that big grin smile is everywhere.its always green when i read ur post.

n about Li mao n lin dan.i dont think it will happen again(although im hoping so)
so that they will be out of tournament.(my respects to all china fans here n out there)

The seeds are based on the BWF World Rankings from 14th February, and are subject to confirmation from the Championships Referee.
(Information taken from Badminton England website)

Men’s Singles

1 Lin Dan (China)
2 Lee Chong Wei (Malaysia)
3 Bao Chunlai (China)
4 Chen Jin (China)
5 Kenneth Jonassen (Denmark)
6 Sony Dwi Kuncoro (Indonesia)
7 Taufik Hidayat (Indonesia)
8 Peter Gade (Denmark)

Women’s Singles

1 Xie Xingfang (China)
2 Zhang Ning (China)
3 Lu Lan (China)
4 Zhu Lin (China)
5 Wang Chen (Hong Kong)
6 Pi Hongyan (France)
7 Xu Huaiwen (Germany)
8 Wong Mew Choo (Malaysia)

Men’s Doubles

1 Fu Haifeng & Cai Yun (China)
2 Markis Kido & Hendra Setiawan (Indonesia)
3 Koo Kien Keat & Tan Boon Heong (Malaysia)
4 Choon Tan Fook & Lee Wan Wah (Malaysia)
5 Candra Wijaya & Tony Gunawan (Indonesia/U.S.A.)
6 Jung Jae Sung & Lee Yong Dae (Korea)
7 Jens Eriksen & Martin Lundgaard Hansen (Denmark)
8 Luluk Hadiyanto & Alvent Yulianto Chandra (Indonesia)

Women’s Doubles

1 Zhang Yawen & Wei Yili (China)
2 Yang Wei & Zhang Jiewen (China)
3 Du Jing & Yu Yang (China)
4 Lee Kyung Won & Lee Hyo Jung (Korea)
5 Gao Ling & Zhao Tingting (China)
6 Chien Yu Chin & Cheng Wen Hsing (Chinese Taipei)
7 Kumiko Ogura & Reiko Shiota (Japan)
8 Gail Emms & Donna Kellogg (England)

Mixed Doubles

1 Zheng Bo & Gao Ling (China)
2 Nova Widianto & Liliyana Natsir (Indonesia)
3 Flandy Limpele & Vita Marissa (Indonesia)
4 Xie Zhongbo & Zhang Yawen (China)
5 He Hanbin & Yu Yang (China)
6 Lee Yong Dae & Lee Hyo Jung (Korea)
7 Sudket Prapakamol & Saralee Thoungthongkam (Thailand)
8 Nathan Robertson & Gail Emms (England)

will it be possible for anup to make another suprise?
lets hope so,malaysians.

sorry china.

and I also hope all MAS players and pairs can't reach SF stage.

and I also hope all MAS players can't reach SF stage.
Why are you so bad???We never say that to china team.:mad:

Why are you so bad???We never say that to china team.:mad:

most of the BC members in here (especially MAS & INA fans) always celebrate CHN's downfall:mad:.
proved me if I'm wrong

most of the BC members in here (especially MAS & INA fans) always celebrate CHN's downfall:mad:.
proved me if I'm wrong
I celebrate not because of china players lost but i am just celebreting when Malaysia players and my favourite players win againts China players.:D:D:DBtw,i cheer for Gao Ling and Zhang Jie Wen too.:p:D:rolleyes:

I celebrate not because of china players lost but i am just celebreting when Malaysia players and my favourite players win againts China players.:D:D:DBtw,i cheer for Gao Ling and Zhang Jie Wen too.:p:D:rolleyes:

I say most of the BC members, includes Koo Fan

u can read the post from Koo Fan in this page

Its quite personal.
but u seems cheer more than ever now.

that big grin smile is everywhere.its always green when i read ur post.

n about Li mao n lin dan.i dont think it will happen again(although im hoping so)
so that they will be out of tournament.(my respects to all china fans here n out there)

why u hate LD so badly?:confused:

why u hate LD so badly?:confused:
Aiya..Winston..We are all badminton fans and hope to make fans here.I think she is just kidding,don't take it too heart.But you must also respect other country players.Ok,i will cheer for china players next time if it does not involves Malaysia players or my favourite players.:D:D:p:rolleyes:;)

Ah man, I can't wait for the All-England this year. This has been a tournament that I've always enjoyed watching. Hope there will be some great matches.

most of the BC members in here (especially MAS & INA fans) always celebrate CHN's downfall:mad:.
proved me if I'm wrong
How about you always look down other players??? We have seen your post from beginning....always negative on other players....

most of the BC members in here (especially MAS & INA fans) always celebrate CHN's downfall:mad:.
proved me if I'm wrong
It is very simply: we (especially MAS & INA fans) hate the dominance of CHN. I personally cheer for the underdogs most of the time.

It is very simply: we (especially MAS & INA fans) hate the dominance of CHN. I personally cheer for the underdogs most of the time.

Hate probably is a wrong word. "bored" would probably be better word. But don't misunderstood me.. i love the Chinese players.

Hate probably is a wrong word. "bored" would probably be better word. But don't misunderstood me.. i love the Chinese players.
Yeah u r right. We r bored about the CHN's dominance but we still like the Chinese players. Zhang Ning and YW/ZJW jiayou!:D

How about you always look down other players??? We have seen your post from beginning....always negative on other players....
..Hau-ge...our Winston T is probably still learning how to be a neutral & objective BCer...:);)
Off topic-Oh, btw, are you still in HK??..Are you going straight to Birmingham (for AE) from HK??:confused:..If so, have fun & see you again back in L.A. sometimes next month??..;):cool:

..Hau-ge...our Winston T is probably still learning how to be a neutral & objective BCer...:);)
Off topic-Oh, btw, are you still in HK??..Are you going straight to Birmingham (for AE) from HK??:confused:..If so, have fun & see you again back in L.A. sometimes next month??..;):cool:

Don't worry, our Hau-Ge is still in HKG now :D He just called me tonight.

most of the BC members in here (especially MAS & INA fans) always celebrate CHN's downfall:mad:.
proved me if I'm wrong

?!? :confused: Well, we do celebrate our players' victories... if that happened to be at the expense of a Chinese player / pair... well, yeah, too bad...

Don't worry, our Hau-Ge is still in HKG now :D He just called me tonight.
..you should piggy-back a ride with him to the All-England, if he's going there..;)

..you should piggy-back a ride with him to the All-England, if he's going there..;)

Nah...too busy...can't leave HKG for the time being :cool::o

Yeah u r right. We r bored about the CHN's dominance but we still like the Chinese players. Zhang Ning and YW/ZJW jiayou!:D

I like Wang Lin and Wang Yihan... ;)

I like Wang Lin and Wang Yihan... ;)

Who are the other two to make up the four you first wanted?

So you have changed your taste? :D

Or you now think that two of your own girls are acceptable after all? :rolleyes:

Who are the other two to make up the four you first wanted?

So you have changed your taste? :D

Or you now think that two of your own girls are acceptable after all? :rolleyes:

wah, uncle loh, what time already, no need to sleep?

most of the BC members in here (especially MAS & INA fans) always celebrate CHN's downfall:mad:.
proved me if I'm wrong

Personally I just like a bit of variety... I guess it's kinda silly really, but checking the tournament results for the QFs and seeing the same flag all the way down the SF column kind of leaves me very disinterested for what's to come, and I feel a little let down... It's really nothing to do with China, if it was any other country dominating I'd still hope for the "underdogs". Because when the hopes of a country rest solely on your shoulders, you're always going to have a lot more motivation to win. When every other player left in the tournament is from the same country... well it may as well just be a national championship (albeit with a rather large (in badminton terms) cash prize :D) as far as I'm concerned!

Anyway I don't really mind if a China player or two gets through (Lin Dan always makes for a very interesting final!), but I like a bit of variety here and there. To me, the most interesting tournaments are usually where a lesser known player comes out of nowhere to win! And if that player came from China, well that would be great too :). Basically I just prefer to see a range of flags as I look down the page, and that usually means China players will have to lose somewhere along the line... nothing against China (I'm... 1/16th Chinese :p), just the way I prefer things personally :).

Hate probably is a wrong word. "bored" would probably be better word. But don't misunderstood me.. i love the Chinese players.

Ahhh...! This is what I was trying to say all packed into a few sentences!

we know lin dan is good but he has an attitude ... making him no good anymore. what kind of sportsman not being able to manage his temper and short of sporting spirit?

wah, uncle loh, what time already, no need to sleep?

Very sharp hah! What was your time then, late afternoon? I'm a night bird and with the slight flu bugging me, I just couldn't have a peaceful rest. Furthermore, didn't quite visit the net for a good look at the TC/UC results. Some of the TC teams like the Korean men are taking things easy and exposing their younger players since they have already qualified for the finals.

In a way, I'm glad that our own teams are fielding the younger ones, although they failed to impress much, except our UC team. I think our target for the TC/UC finals is 2010. ;)

But don't misunderstood me.. i love the Chinese players.

Yup, nobody can hate Gao Ling ....:)

Even CTF fell for Zhang Jiewen. :D

And everyone anticipates a final with LD in it, even though they hope for him to lose in earlier rounds :p ..... kakakaka

Very sharp hah! What was your time then, late afternoon? I'm a night bird and with the slight flu bugging me, I just couldn't have a peaceful rest.

Night bird, u better get some rest and build your stamina.

The Thomas Cup final sessions start at 1 pm and 6 pm WIB. That's 2 pm and 7 pm S'pore time. And there's this good half a km walk one way from our Hotel to Istora ...... I anticipate we need 2 kms worth of leg power at least per day.

Night bird, u better get some rest and build your stamina.

The Thomas Cup final sessions start at 1 pm and 6 pm WIB. That's 2 pm and 7 pm S'pore time. And there's this good half a km walk one way from our Hotel to Istora ...... I anticipate we need 2 kms worth of leg power at least per day.

Don't scare pjswift lah! :eek: I thought the stadium is just adjacent to our hotel?
But not to worry, I will be lighter than you and you have to carry the tripod too! :D After all, isn't it more or less equivalent to roughly 5 games on the badminton court? ;)

Don't scare pjswift lah! :eek: I thought the stadium is just adjacent to our hotel?


Yes it is, but Senayan is a sports complex like Bukit Jalil and Kallang. And Istora is located quite a bit away, like Putra Stadium if coming from the LRT station, or Indoor stadium coming from Geylang (Guillemard Road).

I can arrange backup for pjswift, hotel taxi. But u and me, we must walk, as tough men .....:p. Old men walk with canes, tough men walk with tripods and cameras. :D

Back to All-England, one day I must go to the NIA, never been to the All-Englands since they moved from Wembley Arena and London. This year I might miss the Astro broadcast of the semis and finals, going outstation to attend a cousin's wedding ...... :mad:

Don't scare pjswift lah! :eek: I thought the stadium is just adjacent to our hotel?
But not to worry, I will be lighter than you and you have to carry the tripod too! :D After all, isn't it more or less equivalent to roughly 5 games on the badminton court? ;)


You can do 5 games on the badminton courts ? WOW !:eek:

You can do 5 games on the badminton courts ? WOW !:eek:

1st game rest 10 min
2nd game rest 15min
3rd game rest 20 min
4th game rest 25 min
5th game rest eternal

Total games: 50 min
Total rest: 70 min plus 'eternal'

I'm sure you can too, maybe more! :D:D:D

Peter Gade for the WIN!

1st game rest 10 min
2nd game rest 15min
3rd game rest 20 min
4th game rest 25 min
5th game rest eternal

Total games: 50 min
Total rest: 70 min plus 'eternal'

I'm sure you can too, maybe more! :D:D:D

badminton court $20
shuttles $20

eternal rest......pricelessssss?????:eek::p;)

eternal rest......pricelessssss?????:eek::p;)

No, eternal rest ..... inevitable. :p

Now, being in a KL or Jakarta Thomas/Uber Cup Finals, is priceless .........:D

No, eternal rest ..... inevitable. :p

Now, being in a KL or Jakarta Thomas/Uber Cup Finals, is priceless .........:D

Our version of eternal rest is one that is controllable, not one way street! :D

However I do agree with you that being able to travel freely to watch and enjoy the TC/UC in Jakarta is priceless! :D:D

I dont know if it is ok to cheer Malaysia Boleh loudly in Jakarta now.

I dont think if i can hear my own voice.

I dont know if it is ok to cheer Malaysia Boleh loudly in Jakarta now.

Depends on who is surrounding you! Fellow Malaysians, like abedeng, in large numbers, I think that will boost your courage. :D But if they are from the opposition, better be more restrained! ;)

How about you always look down other players??? We have seen your post from beginning....always negative on other players....

and you're always look down to CHN's players.

btw, I never hate other players.

Yeah u r right. We r bored about the CHN's dominance but we still like the Chinese players. Zhang Ning and YW/ZJW jiayou!:D

when Ina's MS players dominate the badminton from 1994-2002, do u get bored?

How about you always look down other players??? We have seen your post from beginning....always negative on other players....

not me. but Jens Eriksen.

TheSTar Sept 19th

MALAYSIA feel that their men's doubles pairs – Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah, Chan Chong Ming-Koo Kien Keat and Mohd Fairuzizuan Tazari-Lin Woon Fui – stand a chance to win the world title.

But veteran Dane Jens Eriksen says “no way”. The 36-year-old Eriksen, who is searching for his first world title together with Martin Lungaard Hansen, sees only two pairs who are up to the mark to claim the title.

“I feel that Martin and I stand a very good chance to go all the way. Age is not a factor and we believe that we are in top condition at the moment,” said Eriksen.

“I only see the top seeds, Cai Yun and Fu Haifeng (of China), as the pair who are capable of stopping us from winning our first world title.”

He added that similar to the Malaysians, the Indonesian pairs were also not good enough to win the title.

The Indonesian pairs in the fray are Hong Kong Open champions Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan and Luluk Hadiyanto-Alven Yulianto.

Eriksen's and Hansen's hopes of clinching their first world title are also boosted by the latter's recovery from a recent knee injury.

“Martin has recovered fully and he is no longer bothered by injury. He has been testing the knee in training and it is holding up well,” said Eriksen.

The Danes, who won the All-England and European Championships titles this year, are the third-fourth seeds and they are drawn to play against Chong Ming-Kien Keat in the quarter-finals. The Chinese top seeds are in the same half of the draw.

and you're always look down to CHN's players.

btw, I never hate other players.
No..you are wrong but you did look down to other players....I did not look down on chinese players

No..you are wrong but you did look down to other players....I did not look down on chinese players

u are anti China

guys, calm down. let's just say hauge supports indonesia and winston supports china. we all supports our favourite players. :)

u are anti China

I think ANTI CHINA would be a bad description. If i were you i would probably say "you don't like China players". Anyway HuangkwokHau is not such person.
All of us are badminton fans.. when we say we dont like certain players.. either from Malaysia,China or Indonesia.. we are jealous that they are winning all the titles. But we are not saying that the players are bad in playing. Even in Soccer.. there are Hard Core Manchester United fans vs Arsenal fans so goes to Liverpool and Chelsea fans.

Dont take it seriously alright?

u are anti China

U are WRONG big-time!! Hau-Ge is in on good terms with some Chinese players, including Chen Jin, Xie Xingfang, Lu Lan etc.

guys, calm down. let's just say hauge supports indonesia and winston supports china. we all supports our favourite players. :)

As INA fans, of course me, Hau-Ge, Krisna and others would want INA players to win. We are of course delighted if the main opponents from China, Denmark, Korea, and Malaysia are beaten :D

wow. I'm amazed at the level of asininity.
I certainly like Chinese player more than him.

U are WRONG big-time!! Hau-Ge is in on good terms with some Chinese players, including Chen Jin, Xie Xingfang, Lu Lan etc.

Yup, even got teased by Zhang Ning 'cos he ran away when Nova/Lilyana got held up by Gao Ling/Zheng Bo in HK ...... :p

Yup, even got teased by Zhang Ning 'cos he ran away when Nova/Lilyana got held up by Gao Ling/Zheng Bo in HK ...... :p

Yup, I was there too :p

Winston_T is reincarnation ...If I remembered that he did argue with me with that SS s more important than OG and Asian Games......He used 4 point for SS, 5 point for WC and 6 point for OG...hm....

u are anti China
Then you are anti INA then....:D:D

As INA fans, of course me, Hau-Ge, Krisna and others would want INA players to win. We are of course delighted if the main opponents from China, Denmark, Korea, and Malaysia are beaten :D

Then you are anti INA then....:D:D

I'm also delighted if CHN's opponents are beaten, especially arch-rival Indonesia:D

As INA fans, of course me, Hau-Ge, Krisna and others would want INA players to win. We are of course delighted if the main opponents from China, Denmark, Korea, and Malaysia are beaten :D

u can add Taufik-ist and Indra

U are WRONG big-time!! Hau-Ge is in on good terms with some Chinese players, including Chen Jin, Xie Xingfang, Lu Lan etc.

And I am a great fan of Yang Yang.;)

oh yeah, yang yang rocks!!!! :D the current crop of players i like the doubles men team of FHF and CY. but if they come up against malaysian players i still support malaysian players. if they were against somebody else i will support them. :D most BC members here know that chinese players are skilled but who we support are usually based on many things, country of origin being one of them, style of play being another and many other aspects. i like taufik's
style of play but when he goes against LCW i support LCW. other times i support taufik. so really, most BC members dont HATE other players or ANTI certain country, they just dont support them. :)

Never mind ALL-ENGLAND Promises to be HOT, this thread is already plenty heated! I never understand why people make such blatantly provocative comments. Is it to get them some attention? Is it because they are unable to express themselves in a more tactful manner? Whatever the case, some people need to harbour less hatred/anger in their heart.

Never mind ALL-ENGLAND Promises to be HOT, this thread is already plenty heated! I never understand why people make such blatantly provocative comments. Is it to get them some attention? Is it because they are unable to express themselves in a more tactful manner? Whatever the case, some people need to harbour less hatred/anger in their heart.
Just have to get ourselves cool down.
Trying to get the 'heat' is 'innocent' but getting overvoard is what we call rude.
as long as it doesnt get that far,lets just see n wait.
Enjoy the time of the argument..

n Madbad,im with u.

Is Wong Choong Han playing?I just saw him at lunch here in Malaysia few hours ago when I went for lunch nearby.
1 hour ago actually. haha. He was with Chan Chong Ming and Choon Eng and 1 or 2 more i can't recognise.

oh yeah, yang yang rocks!!!! :D the current crop of players i like the doubles men team of FHF and CY. but if they come up against malaysian players i still support malaysian players. if they were against somebody else i will support them. :D most BC members here know that chinese players are skilled but who we support are usually based on many things, country of origin being one of them, style of play being another and many other aspects. i like taufik's
style of play but when he goes against LCW i support LCW. other times i support taufik. so really, most BC members dont HATE other players or ANTI certain country, they just dont support them. :)

This is what I term as patriotism, whatever the circumstances or outcome! Any country will welcome you as a citizen. Something I was trying to drum into and influence our own ayu about, but it seems to have fallen on deaf ears!

Good for you, Miss Ipoh and Malaysia! :)

Is Wong Choong Han playing?I just saw him at lunch here in Malaysia few hours ago when I went for lunch nearby.
1 hour ago actually. haha. He was with Chan Chong Ming and Choon Eng and 1 or 2 more i can't recognise.
yeah, wong choong hann will be playing in this all england..

more worse is hafiz is gonna play against bao chun lai in the opening round of the all england, and in the opening round of the swiss open, he will face world number 1 Lin Dan!!
haizzz.

what will be ur reaction if he beats both of them and win back to back superseries titles?

what will be ur reaction if he beats both of them and win back to back superseries titles?

hahaha welcome to Alice in Wonderland.................:D:D:D:D:D:D in this case it's HAFIZ IN THE WONDERLAND...........:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

what will be ur reaction if he beats both of them and win back to back superseries titles?
It will be the end of the world :eek: ;)

what will be ur reaction if he beats both of them and win back to back superseries titles?
maybe u other alien from other planet??:rolleyes::rolleyes::p:D:eek::eek::eek:
or u actually didnt see badminton from AE 03 rite?:p:):rolleyes::cool:
no way hafiz hashim will win back to back superseries title with his recent yoyo performance..

more worse is hafiz is gonna play against bao chun lai in the opening round of the all england, and in the opening round of the swiss open, he will face world number 1 Lin Dan!!
haizzz.

It is not too late to withdraw now and to save Malayisa's tax payers money.

This is what I term as patriotism, whatever the circumstances or outcome! Any country will welcome you as a citizen. Something I was trying to drum into and influence our own ayu about, but it seems to have fallen on deaf ears!

Good for you, Miss Ipoh and Malaysia! :)
Maturity is the only word to explain how u can write those words.

I appreciate ayu's support.For me,hard to accept when a malaysian refuse to support malaysia like how is support malaysia.i have to learn that eveyone was different.Even if we are in the same country.walk of life taught us to accept others as who they are.hard for me.honestly.

N this all england semis crossed with malaysia general election result.
Now,we got to choose.Politics or sports?
for me,i'll choose kkk.simple.decision was made.

It is not too late to withdraw now and to save Malayisa's tax payers money.
from this current state,we got no choice except to include hafiz in the squad.
If u want to discussed about should or shouldnt.answer is simple.we got no choice.

Tan chun Seang may be reliable but does he have what it takes to be in birmingham?or ended like K.B hong in last thomas cup

maybe u other alien from other planet??:rolleyes::rolleyes::p:D:eek::eek::eek:
or u actually didnt see badminton from AE 03 rite?:p:):rolleyes::cool:
no way hafiz hashim will win back to back superseries title with his recent yoyo performance..
Will u eat humble pie if he did?

from this current state,we got no choice except to include hafiz in the squad.
If u want to discussed about should or shouldnt.answer is simple.we got no choice.

Tan chun Seang may be reliable but does he have what it takes to be in birmingham?or ended like K.B hong in last thomas cup
I am pretty sure Tan CS wont end up like Kuan BH , furthermore u can't compare a player's perfomance in SS/AE with the one in team event. Even u urself ever said that Hafiz perform better in team event before.
OK, maybe AE is abit too much for Tan CS, , but not to be sent to the recently concluded Germany open is abit shamed.

Hafiz came into prominence with that famous victory over Bao at the Thomas Cup semifinals in 2002.

If he can recover the spirit, he could at least make life tough for Bao. Won't get my hopes up, but I would appreciate a decent performance, regardless or result.

Hafiz came into prominence with that famous victory over Bao at the Thomas Cup semifinals in 2002.

If he can recover the spirit, he could at least make life tough for Bao. Won't get my hopes up, but I would appreciate a decent performance, regardless or result.
One of the surest ways to lose is to say, 'This match is gonna be tough.' Better chance of winning by mentally seeing it as 'This is gonna be challenging.. . or 'This match is gonna be DIFFERENT'.Because the opponent may just not be in good form and is not telling!Besides, the best time for him to beat a CHN MS is the first round when his tank is full.All he needs to do is give his all in the one match and win and he will get the feeling he's won a tournament.

One of the surest ways to lose is to say, 'This match is gonna be tough.' Better chance of winning by mentally seeing it as 'This is gonna be challenging.. . or 'This match is gonna be DIFFERENT'.Because the opponent may just not be in good form and is not telling!Besides, the best time for him to beat a CHN MS is the first round when his tank is full.All he needs to do is give his all in the one match and win and he will get the feeling he's won a tournament.


I like your thoughts on this. Yes I heard that is what he will do, give his all in the one match to prove he is capable on the day. I look at it this way - BAO is in for a hard time.

Maturity is the only word to explain how u can write those words.

I appreciate ayu's support.For me,hard to accept when a malaysian refuse to support malaysia like how is support malaysia.i have to learn that eveyone was different.Even if we are in the same country.walk of life taught us to accept others as who they are.hard for me.honestly.

N this all england semis crossed with malaysia general election result.
Now,we got to choose.Politics or sports?
for me,i'll choose kkk.simple.decision was made.

i dont think you would have to choose since you can't vote yet, right? :D anyway, the poll is during the day and the all england is at night. no problems there. :)

from this current state,we got no choice except to include hafiz in the squad.
If u want to discussed about should or shouldnt.answer is simple.we got no choice.

Tan chun Seang may be reliable but does he have what it takes to be in birmingham?or ended like K.B hong in last thomas cup

i think hafiz and TCS would probably perform about the same. hafiz got experience but he lack physical fitness and the drive to win (well at least that is what it seems to me) whereas TCS got no experience but better fitness than hafiz and i feel that he is hungrier than hafiz. but KBH was really a let down last thomas cup. lets hope whoever it is that plays the last single will put up a better fight than that.

I like your thoughts on this. Yes I heard that is what he will do, give his all in the one match to prove he is capable on the day. I look at it this way - BAO is in for a hard time.

i surely hope so. the chances of him beating LD or BCL are really really low but still there's a chance. who knows. :p;)

It is said that Hafiz's Thomas Cup ticket depends on decent performances in the All-England and Swiss.

Well, time to make hay, against Bao and LD respectively.

LD will show u who is the real boss in the neutral ground. less chance for the village champion (LCW & LHI):D

LCW is world number 2 currently, so by your definition there must be at least 5 Malaysian Open in the previous year for LCW to secure his current ranking points now. right?:D:D:D:D

Hafiz came into prominence with that famous victory over Bao at the Thomas Cup semifinals in 2002.

If he can recover the spirit, he could at least make life tough for Bao. Won't get my hopes up, but I would appreciate a decent performance, regardless or result.
Hafiz is actually very good seed to be sent as the last man in team event
When he got the pressure,he'll get the hunger to win.That is how he saved us in crucial games.
when i say 'can we put t.c.seang in the list' i mean as newcomer,can he take the pressure n perform?

hafiz was proved to be extremely good on this.we got to send him now.
He played as individual,hunger is not there.perhaps he is asking himself..
" should i win'?"
in a team,he had teammates behind hi back n give him hopes.
hafiz is quite manja,need a cauldron to give him support.lets do so then.

i dont think you would have to choose since you can't vote yet, right? :D anyway, the poll is during the day and the all england is at night. no problems there. :)





sis,i mean the result.AE semis start at 9.00 pm.Last game finished at..well we dont know yet.
The result is at 8.30.n finished at 3.00.

So,'bertembung' la tu.
I hope ppls here will still watch the AE.

LCW is world number 2 currently, so by your definition there must be at least 5 Malaysian Open in the previous year for LCW to secure his current ranking points now. right?:D:D:D:D
Answer that ,Winston_T

I am pretty sure Tan CS wont end up like Kuan BH , furthermore u can't compare a player's perfomance in SS/AE with the one in team event. Even u urself ever said that Hafiz perform better in team event before.
OK, maybe AE is abit too much for Tan CS, , but not to be sent to the recently concluded Germany open is abit shamed.
Having read the last sentence,i started to think that bias happened now.
Tan Chun Seang has not been sent to thomas Cup qualifier.They sent Arif.
Eventhough TCs rank is slightly higher than that zakry's bro.i take it easy n say maybe the tcs is just unlucky n another oppurtunity is waiting.

But not to be sent to GO.wheres the oppurtunity then??
Anyone can explain what is actually happen here?
Before i got a perception about BAM.

Will u eat humble pie if he did?
u are kidding me then,,!:rolleyes::)

OK, maybe AE is abit too much for Tan CS, , but not to be sent to the recently concluded Germany open is abit shamed.

Having read the last sentence,i started to think that bias happened now.
Tan Chun Seang has not been sent to thomas Cup qualifier.They sent Arif.
Eventhough TCs rank is slightly higher than that zakry's bro.i take it easy n say maybe the tcs is just unlucky n another oppurtunity is waiting.

But not to be sent to GO.wheres the oppurtunity then??
Anyone can explain what is actually happen here?
Before i got a perception about BAM.

Except for Razif/Chong Sook Chin, KLRC & Nusa club players, the other Msia players were withdrawn from German Open, even Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei who didnt go TC/Uber qualifiers & who need the OG points.
They went for 3 day training/team building camp last wk, which clashes with German Open - to prepare for AE. They couldnt have it earlier, got CNY, then must train for qualifiers, then play for qualifiers, last wk only time available to gather everybody.
Dunno if TCS went to the camp, should be.

Sis Koo_fan, someone already pointed out that TCS was sent the last TC, this time is Arif's turn. TC finals could be TCS's turn. If they do that, means send junior for qualifier, the more senior one for Finals.

despite the best wishes of the MAS supporters here, and don't get me wrong, i always support MAS players myself, i just can't realistically see hafiz posing much of a problem for BCL or LD. i reckon he'll lose tamely in both matches.

also, there's no point blaming the draw, if you aren't seeded, then chances are you'll be meeting one of the top players in the opening rounds of any SS.

u are kidding me then,,!:rolleyes::)

well,lets see then.;)
kidding or not,it may happen.

Except for Razif/Chong Sook Chin, KLRC & Nusa club players, the other Msia players were withdrawn from German Open, even Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei who didnt go TC/Uber qualifiers & who need the OG points.
They went for 3 day training/team building camp last wk, which clashes with German Open - to prepare for AE. They couldnt have it earlier, got CNY, then must train for qualifiers, then play for qualifiers, last wk only time available to gather everybody.
Dunno if TCS went to the camp, should be.

Sis Koo_fan, someone already pointed out that TCS was sent the last TC, this time is Arif's turn. TC finals could be TCS's turn. If they do that, means send junior for qualifier, the more senior one for Finals.

i quite frustrated.never got a chance to watch his game before.

despite the best wishes of the MAS supporters here, and don't get me wrong, i always support MAS players myself, i just can't realistically see hafiz posing much of a problem for BCL or LD. i reckon he'll lose tamely in both matches.

also, there's no point blaming the draw, if you aren't seeded, then chances are you'll be meeting one of the top players in the opening rounds of any SS.
Realistically,hafiz's chance to regain AE is almost zero.
based on his current performance,current ranking,who will expect him to do something in birmingham?

but,Is that so wrong to have hope?

Sorry X ball seems to have lost his bet on Satay's :p!

So in conclusion,
Malaysia is a disaster in AE.
sadis,tragik...

beijing is ahead.Listen to helen keller n look to the open doors.Forget the closed doors.
support malaysians,support.

So in conclusion,
Malaysia is a disaster in AE.
sadis,tragik...

beijing is ahead.Listen to helen keller n look to the open doors.Forget the closed doors.
support malaysians,support.

No, no please dont say disaster for Msia in the AE.

I mean, it was expected for KKK/TBH despite being the defending great champion to be bundled out in the 1st round. The writing was already on the wall when they lost to some cardboard Korean pair.

.... but no worries, KKK/TBH are still young and all. ;)

As for LCW, I guess he was pretty tired because just before the AE, he was busy helping Ling Hee Liong in his election campaign in Gopeng. The doubles match where he partnered Hee Liong must have been pretty grueling.

.... but no worries as well cos there will be other AEs for LCW in the future.

WMC, great overall display.

LWW/CTF, as usual dont have the finishing power/mentality to clear the final hurdle.

Hafiz etc had a decent tour of the English countryside and hospitality.

... but look at the bright side, we should be looking at 2 gold medals in Beijing, according to your prediction. ;)

2 OG08 GOLD for Msia? :eek: I'll be jumping naked (in my room, of coz) if LCW standing on the podium (regardless of the "color" of the medal) :eek::D

2 OG08 GOLD for Msia? :eek: I'll be jumping naked (in my room, of coz) if LCW standing on the podium (regardless of the "color" of the medal) :eek::D

Yes... really two OG08 gold medals for Malaysia!!! This is the bold prediction by one Malaysia really really boleh fan who is hoping, praying and then hoping against hope that our shuttlers will take home 2 gold medals.

... but back to this AE, Malaysia was just unlucky thats all ;)

ALL-ENGLAND Promises to be HOT....... ?
The MS Finals wasnt hot at all aye ?....

I hope that the OG will be better.

i missed the MS and the XD because i thought RTM did not broadcast the matches live yesterday. :mad: in turns out, they did show it later. when i finally surfed back to rtm1, the women's singles were in the second nail biting game. tine and lu lan made it enjoyable to watch. it was a tight match. congratulations tine for winning the AE2008.

then i watched the women's double (which usually i dont because usually the two contenders were from the same country, but yesterday it was not) and boy, that was one good fight too. :D really enjoyed that one. either one could have won that match.

then lastly the korean men's double, i decided to sleep because it is too late and i am working today and both contenders are form the same country. korea surely will win men's double. :D:p

CTF/LWW again showed their inability to get the match point. so many times they could not get the job done. but at least they did their best. and the korean pair really deserved the win for their level headed and calmness at the last few points. and happily they went on to win the men's doubles. so congratulations LYD. i always forgot his partner. maybe because LYD is the cute one. hahahahaha :D

LCW was actually listless and a bit clueless when playing chen jin in the semi finals. his famous defense was nearly inexistent. chen jin fully deserve the win as he managed to break LCW rhythm all through the game. LCW was looking like an amateur. but i still support LCW. :) hopefully he'll do better in the swiss open. chen jin went on to beat lin dan but reports was saying that lin dan was injured. but nonetheless, congratulations chen jin. :)

all in all, a pretty exciting AE. lots of upsets. korea showed that they mean business this year. full blown contender for the OG gold. :D:p;):)

Even though our Lee's (LCW and LWW) failed to shine but there are other Lee's (LKW, LHJ and LYD) who managed to grab the titles.

Even though our Lee's (LCW and LWW) failed to shine but there are other Lee's (LKW, LHJ and LYD) who managed to grab the titles.
good one.I didnt realise this
Our Lees maybe dissapointing.Actually not maybe.Truly sissapointing.
Leave Ae.Grab Olympic.

And to those who are related,
Lost is a lost.Nothing can change that.
But to be unable to wake up after the lost.Thats the real doomsday.The end of the journey.Until then,hope is there.

N stop behave sarcastically.
U'll know how it feels when ur family members didnt support when u are in trouble.
in this case,when u start continously losing in ur badminton games.

Even though our Lee's (LCW and LWW) failed to shine but there are other Lee's (LKW, LHJ and LYD) who managed to grab the titles.

good one.I didnt realise this
Our Lees maybe dissapointing.Actually not maybe.Truly sissapointing.
Leave Ae.Grab Olympic.

u fellas sure have a multipurpose meaning to your cheering of 'Boleh':rolleyes: I hope BAM, Rexy, and the whole Malaysian team find comfort in this Lee's celebration:p I can hear Permuda ROFL in the background..

Actually,cooler.Nothing can change fact.
they lost.they played bad.they behave like juniors in badminton.
The biggest fans cant back them up with any points.
It is clear.
The support is there.But truths are revealed.
No multipurpose's stuff.We hope lee's can win.Simple.3 years old kid can understand this.But to behave like adults n tell the truth in any situation.
Im trying to do this.

It was really disappointing after seeing the Malaysian getting crushed in the semis.

What happen to LCW he was not even playing (well not till the last few points of second game, too late!!) and LWW & CTF as usual they just can't perform under pressure........... really disappointing

I am just looking forward to OG 08 and hope that it won't be as disappointing as this....

Actually,cooler.Nothing can change fact.
they lost.they played bad.they behave like juniors in badminton.
The biggest fans cant back them up with any points.
It is clear.
The support is there.But truths are revealed.
No multipurpose's stuff.We hope lee's can win.Simple.3 years old kid can understand this.But to behave like adults n tell the truth in any situation.
Im trying to do this.
thanks for that clarification

It was really disappointing after seeing the Malaysian getting crushed in the semis.

What happen to LCW he was not even playing (well not till the last few points of second game, too late!!) and LWW & CTF as usual they just can't perform under pressure........... really disappointing

I am just looking forward to OG 08 and hope that it won't be as disappointing as this....
Lww/Ctf excuse is 'We failed to finish it off when it matters most'
Being unable to take pressure at ur 30s sound ridiculous.
It is more to unneccessary mistake.
N Lcw,just not up to chen jin's level this march.August will bring something.Hopefully.

N yes.Looking forward.Not backward.

I was actually rather impressed by LWW/CTF, especially LWW. Other than the brain cramp towards the end, the match was of high quality compared to the finals. There were several rallys that were simply breathtaking. Granted the end result wasn't the desired one for MAS fans and a bit of a letdown by CTF but overall solid effort from both sides. So even tho they're being criticized for their lack of finish and rightly so, I can't deny that they've played really well up to that point.

As for LCW, sigh..it's not just that he played bad but he employed the wrong strats. I honestly feel that even if LCW doesn't play up to his standard he could still beat most players (LD being the exception) in 3 games. 2 if everything was working together. Same can be said too about LD. That double whammy is what cost him. Failing to recognize early or just plain stubborn whichever the case may be that his approach wasn't working. I hope he doesn't carry that over into the OG. :o

No, no please dont say disaster for Msia in the AE.

I mean, it was expected for KKK/TBH despite being the defending great champion to be bundled out in the 1st round. The writing was already on the wall when they lost to some cardboard Korean pair.

.... but no worries, KKK/TBH are still young and all. ;)

As for LCW, I guess he was pretty tired because just before the AE, he was busy helping Ling Hee Liong in his election campaign in Gopeng. The doubles match where he partnered Hee Liong must have been pretty grueling.

.... but no worries as well cos there will be other AEs for LCW in the future.

WMC, great overall display.

LWW/CTF, as usual dont have the finishing power/mentality to clear the final hurdle.

Hafiz etc had a decent tour of the English countryside and hospitality.

Pemuda,

Are you employing a different strategy? :D
Quite a pleasant deviation from the norm! :cool:

2 OG08 GOLD for Msia? :eek: I'll be jumping naked (in my room, of coz) if LCW standing on the podium (regardless of the "color" of the medal) :eek::D

I have a feeling that you may need to do just what you've promised.
But how can we be sure you're not keeping to your words? :rolleyes:

I have a feeling that you may need to do just what you've promised.
But how can we be sure you're not keeping to your words? :rolleyes:

He is a 'Flasher' - you will have to know which window to look into.:D

I was actually rather impressed by LWW/CTF, especially LWW. Other than the brain cramp towards the end, the match was of high quality compared to the finals. There were several rallys that were simply breathtaking. Granted the end result wasn't the desired one for MAS fans and a bit of a letdown by CTF but overall solid effort from both sides. So even tho they're being criticized for their lack of finish and rightly so, I can't deny that they've played really well up to that point.

As for LCW, sigh..it's not just that he played bad but he employed the wrong strats. I honestly feel that even if LCW doesn't play up to his standard he could still beat most players (LD being the exception) in 3 games. 2 if everything was working together. Same can be said too about LD. That double whammy is what cost him. Failing to recognize early or just plain stubborn whichever the case may be that his approach wasn't working. I hope he doesn't carry that over into the OG. :o
Totally agree.How can LCW get the strategy and tactics so wrong?Misbun , his coach got it wrong or LCW the player, being naughty? CJ played very well but would be sufficiently contained by LCW with the right moves.(Maybe Morten Frost should be guest coach once just like he did for Tine in JO07, culminating with her breakthrough win) My guess is LCW was trying to conserve energy for his final vs LD, not realising that can result in his loss.He probably did that with Tommy S.thinking he has to conserve energy before meeting TH.He forgot CJ is just one class below him and not a rookie like Tommy.(With the NSS, a top player can take chances with a rookie but not one who is a class or even two below them.)
There seemed a touch of arrogance in his approach to CJ and he was served a good lesson(if he learns). Or maybe the AE MS prize money was not worth it;actually worse than last year's?
When is LCW gonna learn there's no need for him to conserve energy at all in a tournament?His JO07 sensational win proves that he has the fitness and stamina to go the max of 5 tough matches in a row against opponents who have easier runs.Should I be his freelance shrink?

i watched the AE match between LCW and TH and Frost was with the commentator. and frost was saying that LCW have this passiveness that makes it difficult for him to pressure his opponent and finish the game. i agree. i dont think it was a show of arrogance. i think it was more a passiveness in his game that he was beaten by chen jin. chen jin played very well. he, however, was making mistakes and making errors due to the pressure chen jin managed to put on him. even when he is full of energy he tends to play safe.

So in conclusion,
Malaysia is a disaster in AE.
sadis,tragik...

beijing is ahead.Listen to helen keller n look to the open doors.Forget the closed doors.
support malaysians,support.

disaster also for CHN team

I have a feeling that you may need to do just what you've promised.
But how can we be sure you're not keeping to your words? :rolleyes:
Dont ever try to make sure that he keep to his words..dont ever.

If china in Ae is a disaster,then malaysia is a hurricanne.
Katrina or durian.i dont know.Combination of both perhaps

If china in Ae is a disaster,then malaysia is a hurricanne.
Katrina or durian.i dont know.Combination of both perhaps
must be some tsunami disaster in AE this year:p

Tsunami is for bombshell.Like tsonga tsunami

N we are truly disaster.We dont deserve tsunami.

Pemuda,

Are you employing a different strategy? :D
Quite a pleasant deviation from the norm! :cool:

That's being sarcastic in reverse language, which is what majority of Msian fans actually think in real life - though some BCers dont think so.

BAM, NSC are upset, that such results are unacceptable, they must post-mortem to see, etc,etc - hightened anxiety bf OG. Sports Minister too busy with shock election results to bother yet.
Just be glad your Kendrick Lee dont get such pressure;).

I was actually rather impressed by LWW/CTF, especially LWW. Other than the brain cramp towards the end, the match was of high quality compared to the finals. There were several rallys that were simply breathtaking. Granted the end result wasn't the desired one for MAS fans and a bit of a letdown by CTF but overall solid effort from both sides. So even tho they're being criticized for their lack of finish and rightly so, I can't deny that they've played really well up to that point....

. :o

errrr, BAM & coaches dont think so, CTF/LWW have been around for years, if they can play well but dont win, it's still a lost. It's still not a good result, no matter how high quality the game was. That's what counts for the decision makers & most Msian fans. Anything less is considered a failure cos Lee/Jung is lower ranked than them.

CTF/LWW have beaten the top 8 pairs before = Fu/Cai, Kido/Setiawan, JE/ML, Lee/Hwang, so more is expected.

That's being sarcastic in reverse language, which is what majority of Msian fans actually think in real life - though some BCers dont think so.

BAM, NSC are upset, that such results are unacceptable, they must post-mortem to see, etc,etc - hightened anxiety bf OG. Sports Minister too busy with shock election results to bother yet.
Just be glad your Kendrick Lee dont get such pressure;).

Surprisingly, I think Kendrick has done well against TH although he still lost in the Swiss Open. So he should not feel too much of a pressure as underdog. But I doubt he would have a chance to go to the Beijing Olympics if Ronald is still fighting for a place. But I'll rather Kendrick go to experience his toughest test.

Morphy,appreciate ur remarked on lww/ctf
If they didnt do well,bam,nsc,ms,fans have no right to put the blame on them.

They performed at this age.Thats good enough.

errrr, BAM & coaches dont think so, CTF/LWW have been around for years, if they can play well but dont win, it's still a lost. It's still not a good result, no matter how high quality the game was. That's what counts for the decision makers & most Msian fans. Anything less is considered a failure cos Lee/Jung is lower ranked than them.

CTF/LWW have beaten the top 8 pairs before = Fu/Cai, Kido/Setiawan, JE/ML, Lee/Hwang, so more is expected.
sis,will be in my side on this?
i blame lcw more than lww/ctf
i dissapointed with lcw more than Lww/ctf.
In this Ae,Regardless the result,lww/ctf deserve credit more than lcw.

The Choon Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah pair has more than proven their standard (I'm omitting "superior," justifiably) on the badminton arena. They are respected and have the staying power, when compared to Tan Boon Heong/Koo Kien Kiat.

However, if Tan/Koo have the temerity to hang in there, and play solid badminton, instead of fading, they could very well be Malaysia's MD change-of-the-guards.

It's a shame that due to their age, the lollipop girls can't rally on to their bandwagon in the same fashion.

-dave

The Choon Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah pair has more than proven their standard (I'm omitting "superior," justifiably) on the badminton arena. They are respected and have the staying power, when compared to Tan Boon Heong/Koo Kien Kiat.

However, if Tan/Koo have the temerity to hang in there, and play solid badminton, instead of fading, they could very well be Malaysia's MD change-of-the-guards.

It's a shame that due to their age, the lollipop girls can't rally on to their bandwagon in the same fashion.

-dave

:D:D, LOL, due to their age & experience, more is expected as the most senior pair in the team. They already have this prob for years. What I put forth is the decision makers & majority view, not my view, he he. The decision makers view is what counts, not fans.

Funny term, "lollipop girls", I'm much older than KKK/TBH, there's no swooning for players, they're like my little bros - they are the 2nd youngest MD in the team. 2 years down the road, if KKK/TBH still like 'fading', then...

Just one year ago, CTF/LWW, esp CTF, received a lot of blasting from Rexy, there were calls for them to retire, that they were going downhill, etc,etc.
They are dubbed Mr Runner-up in MD with good reason.
What the uncles 'got' last year, KKK/TBH are getting it this year.


Koo_Fan - like I said above, that's majority view, not a matter whether I on your side or someone else side. Stimes ppl forget the amount of blasting the uncles got in the past,this year, they're going to retire, maybe some think, no point blasting.

The Choon Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah pair has more than proven their standard (I'm omitting "superior," justifiably) on the badminton arena. They are respected and have the staying power, when compared to Tan Boon Heong/Koo Kien Kiat.

However, if Tan/Koo have the temerity to hang in there, and play solid badminton, instead of fading, they could very well be Malaysia's MD change-of-the-guards.

It's a shame that due to their age, the lollipop girls can't rally on to their bandwagon in the same fashion.

-dave
Lollipop gals?

Ok.theres a term called 'sissy ronaldo' too.
But does it affect ronaldo from being the most wanted man u player?
no.