Thomas And Uber Cup Qualifiers - Asian Zone

[samuel882]

TEAMS Which has been registered for entries

THOMAS CUP
1. Vietnam (Host) (Seeded)
2. MAS (Seeded)
3. Korea (Seeded)
4. Japan (Seeded)
5. Thailand
6. Singapore
7. Hong Kong
8. India
9. Chinese Taipei
10. Philipines
11. Macau
12. Pakistan
13. Sri Lanka
14. Cambodia

They will be divided into 4 Groups; with the Seeded team being separated.
ONLY THE GROUP WINNERS WILL BE ADVANCED TO THE FINALS IN JKT:eek:

[samuel882]

UBER CUP ENTRIES

1. VIETNAM (Seeded)
2. KOREA (Seeded)
3. HONG KONG (Seeded)
4. JAPAN (Seeded)
5. MAS
6. CHINESE TAIPEI
7. SINGAPORE
8. THAILAND
9. INDIA
10. SRI LANKA
11. CAMBODIA

Same rules apply as in Thomas cup

[huangkwokhau]

UBER CUP ENTRIES

1. VIETNAM (Seeded)
2. KOREA (Seeded)
3. HONG KONG (Seeded)
4. JAPAN (Seeded)
5. MAS
6. CHINESE TAIPEI
7. SINGAPORE
8. THAILAND
9. INDIA
10. SRI LANKA
11. CAMBODIA

Same rules apply as in Thomas cup

How come that Vietnam is seeded???????

[samuel882]

How come that Vietnam is seeded???????
Host country -- That's the priviledge ;)

[badMania]

So, Thailand, Chinese-Taipei, Singapore and Hong Kong better pray that they are in the same group as Vietnam then in the Thomas Cup.

Similarly, Thailand, Chinese-Taipei and Singapore will hope to be in the same group as Vietnam in the Uber Cup.

[d65up2]

Thailand might have a chance against Japan or Korea....Well not Korea cos they are too strong but I think THA can take 2 points against Japan..Bonsak and Sudket may take it or possibly 2nd singles is all to fight for...

Singapore also have a fighting chance against Japan...Well

[samuel882]

Confimed entries for team KOREA
1. Lee Hyun Il
2. Park Sung Hwan
3. Shon Seung Mo
Reserved Single : Lee Cheol Ho
1. Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae
2. Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man
Reserved Doubles
3. Cho Gun Wo/Hang Sang Hoon

[samuel882]

Quite surprise to see Cambodia entries in Both Thomas & Uber Cup

[vching]

Confimed entries for team KOREA
1. Lee Hyun Il
2. Park Sung Hwan
3. Shon Seung Mo
Reserved Single : Lee Cheol Ho
1. Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae
2. Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man
Reserved Doubles
3. Cho Gun Wo/Hang Sang Hoon

After Hyun Il and Seung Mo came out of retirement, Korea's Thomas Cup team has become much more formidable.

[badMania]

Thailand might have a chance against Japan or Korea....Well not Korea cos they are too strong but I think THA can take 2 points against Japan..Bonsak and Sudket may take it or possibly 2nd singles is all to fight for...

Singapore also have a fighting chance against Japan...Well

Japan's MD are probably too strong for Thailand. Singapore's Hendri/Hendra might have a chance against Ohtsuka/Matsuda or Sakamoto/Ikeda. Kendrick Lee might also steal a point against Shoji Sato. But, the other singles and the second doubles for Singapore are too weak :o

Chinese-Taipei has been surprising as well with their 2 MDs. However, Singapore should have a higher chance of beating them in the Singles and at least 1 Doubles.

[samuel882]

Korea/MAS/JAPAN should be one class above the rest.
There is only one place to fight for among THA/SIN/Chinese Taipei
Much will be depends on who were they draw in the group
I am sure one of them will get Vietnam for their company in same group.
The other 2 Teams must pray for hard luck which they be groupped against the above Giant 3.

[george@chongwei]

how come china not listed???:eek:

[eaglehelang]

how come china not listed???:eek:

George you memang dont read the newspapers. China & Indonesia get automatic entry into finals. China cos defending champs, Indonesia cos is host.

[george@chongwei]

George you memang dont read the newspapers. China & Indonesia get automatic entry into finals. China cos defending champs, Indonesia cos is host.
yala, sometimes i didnt read newpapers...:p:p
heheh:):D

[samuel882]

Latest released WR; Lee HI moved up to 14, still two rank below Park SH.
He will surely be the 2nd singles in Korea Lines-Up

[eaglehelang]

from NST

Badminton/Thomas Cup Asia Zone Qualifying Round: BWF reduces number of qualifiers to three

By Ajitpal Singh

04 February, 2008

IN an about turn the Badminton World Federation (BWF) has decided to reduce the number of qualifiers for the Uber Cup Asia Zone Qualifying event in Vietnam on Feb 19-24 from four automatic slots to three. According to BWF, the decision to amend was made after taking into consideration that Asian countries, namely defending champions China and hosts Indonesia, were already featuring in the Finals on May 11-18.

The amendment is allowed under the BWF constitution.

However, the team finishing fourth in the Uber Cup Asia Qualifiers will still have a chance to make the Finals as they will be compared to the fourth-placed team from the European zone.

The team with the higher ranking as at Feb 27, will advance to the Finals.

Several representatives from competing countries who attended the draw in Kuala Lumpur yesterday, were caught off-guard by the change.

BA of Malaysia (BAM) general manager Kenny Goh said he was unaware of the change. However, he said BAM will accept the decision.

Meanwhile, BWF events and development manager M. Venugopal claimed the BWF decided to reduce the number of automatic slots to Asia in a meeting months ago.

Venugopal added that the BWF also decided to maintain the number of Thomas Cup Asia Zone qualifiers to four.



The Thomas Cup Qualifying event will also be held in Vietnam on Feb 19-24.

[eaglehelang]

also from NST

Badminton/Thomas Cup Asia Zone Qualifying Round: Easy draw for Malaysia

By Ajitpal Singh

04 February, 2008

MALAYSIA could not have anticipated an easier group when the draw for the Thomas Cup Asia Zone Qualifying round in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam on Feb 19-24 was made in Kuala Lumpur yesterday. Malaysia, the top seeds, were drawn in Group A together with Taiwan, the Philippines and minnows Cambodia.

The semi-finalists qualify for the Finals and with a favourable draw, Malaysia should confirm their berth.

The Finals will be held in Jakarta, Indonesia on May 11-18.

The Uber Cup team, which will be led by Wong Mew Choo, were also handed a good draw but the pressure will be on them to finish among the top three to qualify automatically for the Finals, also in Jakarta.

The men's team, led by World No 2 Lee Chong Wei, should top their group with ease.

Barring any major upsets, Malaysia will likely face India, who will be led by last year's World Championships' quarter-finalist Anup Sridhar, in the last eight.

The India encounter could prove to be tricky as World No 15 Wong Choong Hann and World No 24 Hafiz Hashim have been erratic lately.

Reigning All-England champions Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong and Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah are expected to be the two choices for Malaysia in the doubles.

If Malaysia prevail against India, they next meet either Hong Kong or Singapore in the semi-finals and then a most likely encounter against South Korea in the final.

South Korea, the second seeds, have been drawn in Group B with Singapore and Vietnam while third seeds Japan are in Group C with India and Pakistan.

Group D consists of fourth seeds Hong Kong, Thailand, Sri Lanka and Macau.

China, as defending champions and hosts Indonesia, will not be competing in the qualifiers.

National chief coach Yap Kim Hock said Malaysia's main objective is to make the semi-finals to gain qualification to the Finals.

"The other objective is for the players to gain ranking points for the Beijing Olympic Games qualification," said Kim Hock yesterday.

"We are not thinking about winning the event at the moment. There will be no advantage if we win as the seeding in the Finals will be based on individual rankings."

Meanwhile, in the Uber Cup, the BWF decision to reduce the number of automatic spots from four to three could spell trouble for Malaysia.

Malaysia, the third seeds, should top Group Z by beating India, the only other team in the group.

However, they face a crunch match against Singapore in the quarter-finals. The last time the teams met, Singapore beat Malaysia 3-0 in the semi-finals of the Korat Sea Games.

On that occasion, Malaysia were without Wong Mew Choo and doubles specialists Chin Eei Hui.

Should Malaysia advance, they meet either Japan or Thailand in the semi-finals.

Kim Hock admitted that the BWF decision to reduce automatic spots have made it tougher for Malaysia to qualify for the Uber Cup Finals.

"However, I'm confident the women's team will pull through and make the top three," he said.

[cxytdn]

Easy for Malaysia, uphill for hosts Vietnam
3 February 2008

MALAYSIA had it easy but that was not the case for hosts Vietnam after the draw for the Robot Thomas and Uber Cups Asian Zone qualifiers were concluded in Kuala Lumpur on Sunday.

Vietnam was drawn together with Korea and Singapore in Group B of the Thomas Cup qualifiers while Chinese Taipei and Hong Kong are the hurdles in Group Y of Vietnam’s Uber Cup campaign.

The Asian zone qualifiers will be held in the city of Ho Chih Minh in Vietnam from Feb 19 to 24. The draw was conducted by Badminton Asia Confederation’s (BAC) Chair of Events Surasak Songvorakulpan, who is also the Referee for the championships.

Also present to witness the draw were BAC Chief Operating Officer Karen Koh, Badminton World Federation (BWF) Secretary General Stuart Borrie, Ho Chih Minh Badminton Association Executive Vice Chairman Huynh Ngoc Lien and BA of Malaysia (BAM) General Manager Kenny Goh.

Malaysia, on the other hand, has only India for company in Group Z of the Uber Cup while the men have Chinese Taipei, Pakistan and Cambodia for company in the Thomas Cup.

Korea and Singapore will fight it out in both the Thomas and Uber Cup campaigns after both teams were drawn in the same group. The third team in their groups are Vietnam (Thomas Cup) and Cambodia (Uber Cup).

The top two teams from each group will qualify for the last eight stage of the qualifiers.

Title holders China and hosts Indonesia qualify automatically for the Finals which will take place in Jakarta from May 11 to 18. A total of 12 nations, including China and Indonesia, will battle it out in Jakarta.

For Asia, the top four teams from the Asian zone Thomas Cup qualifiers will make the trip to Jakarta while the top three teams in the Uber Cup qualifiers, will book their places in the finals. Asia will get an additional berth in the Uber Cup provided its fourth placed team rank higher than Europe’s fourth place finisher based on the world rankings list on Feb 27.

Thomas Cup qualifiers (Asian Zone):

Group A: Malaysia, Chinese Taipei, Pakistan, Cambodia;
Group B: Korea, Singapore, Vietnam;
Group C: Japan, India, Pakistan;
Group D: Hong Kong, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Macau.

Uber Cup qualifiers (Asian Zone):

Group W: Japan, Thailand, Cambodia;
Group X: Korea, Singapore, Cambodia;
Group Y: Chinese Taipei, Hong Kong, Vietnam;
Group Z: Malaysia, India.

[abedeng]

Errr, how did we get Cambodia in both Uber Cup group W and X?

[cxytdn]

Errr, how did we get Cambodia in both Uber Cup group W and X?

WBF's NEWS did so, I think it should be as follows:

Thomas Cup qualifiers (Asian Zone):

Group A: Malaysia, Chinese Taipei, Pakistan, Cambodia;
Group B: Korea, Singapore, Vietnam;
Group C: Japan, India, Philippines;
Group D: Hong Kong, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Macau.

Uber Cup qualifiers (Asian Zone):

Group W: Japan, Thailand, Sri Lanka;
Group X: Korea, Singapore, Cambodia;
Group Y: Chinese Taipei, Hong Kong, Vietnam;
Group Z: Malaysia, India.

[samuel882]

Easy for MAS?
They got Chinese Taipei for their company, whom both of the doubles pair has beaten MAS pair before. they just need to steal one point from 3rd single : HH .
Who is easy then?

[abedeng]

Says here that the Asian Uber Cup spots are only guaranteed 3 places, the 4th country may qualify IF it is ranked higher than the equivalent European team.

How are teams ranked, by individual players' rankings vis a vis their position, or a combination of all the team's ranking by handicap calculation?

What if two teams A and B have the following rank:-

Position - Team A - Team B
WS1 - WR1 - WR 20
WS2 - WR 25 - WR 21
WS3 - WR 30 - WR 22
WD1 - WR1 - WR 10
WD2 - WR15 - WR 11

If based on individual players' ranking per theoretical match, then B beats A 3-2.

If based on teams' overall ranking (handicap calculation), A beats B 72-84 (lower score wins).

[abedeng]

I would prefer a straight fight between the 4th placed Asian vs the 4th placed European team.

How do you accurately determine team rankings anyway? We've had occasions in the past where a team with lower ranked players beat the opposition which generally had higher ranking players.

A straight fight will settle the issue, beyond reasonable doubt.

[Oldhand]

India has abandoned the preparatory camp for the Thomas & Uber Cups!
Guess why... the players don't have enough shuttles for practice :eek::eek::eek:

http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/idINIndia-31808120080207

[george@chongwei]

India has abandoned the preparatory camp for the Thomas & Uber Cups!
Guess why... the players don't have enough shuttles for practice :eek::eek::eek:

http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/idINIndia-31808120080207
wtf!!..
bcoz of not enough shuttlecock for training, they purposely sent home over 30 players ..
what a waste!

[cxytdn]

Let's see............................................... .

[cxytdn]

Says here that the Asian Uber Cup spots are only guaranteed 3 places, the 4th country may qualify IF it is ranked higher than the equivalent European team.

How are teams ranked, by individual players' rankings vis a vis their position, or a combination of all the team's ranking by handicap calculation?

What if two teams A and B have the following rank:-

Position - Team A - Team B
WS1 - WR1 - WR 20
WS2 - WR 25 - WR 21
WS3 - WR 30 - WR 22
WD1 - WR1 - WR 10
WD2 - WR15 - WR 11

If based on individual players' ranking per theoretical match, then B beats A 3-2.

If based on teams' overall ranking (handicap calculation), A beats B 72-84 (lower score wins).

Look here:
World Team Ranking [Jan 31 2008] (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51942)

[Dreamzz]

i reckon it's gonna be:

TC

MAS vs THA/SIN (i think SIN probably has the edge)
JPN vs KOR

UC

JPN vs MAS/SIN (i think SIN has the edge here too)
HK vs KOR

[Dreamzz]

when are the european qualifiers?

[LazyBuddy]

According to earlier report, I thought Vietnam is seeded as it's the host? :confused:

[abedeng]

Mr Loh,

Is Li Li competing in Uber qualifiers for S'pore? With her around, it would be an interesting MAS vs SIN confrontation.

[Loh]

Mr Loh,

Is Li Li competing in Uber qualifiers for S'pore? With her around, it would be an interesting MAS vs SIN confrontation.

Well, I doubt so since it is assumed she has returned to China to join her parents to celebrate CNY and needed more time to 'recuperate'. As agreed by many, she left in the most inopportune time, I'm afraid. :(

I hope she could change her mind fast enough to be able to make it for the Beijing Olympics, otherwise her younger teammate, Xing Aiying, will benefit from her absence.

[cxytdn]

uber Cup Team Entries By Names

Badminton Asia Confederation

1.cambodia
Noeuv Sodany
Chann Dara
Keo Pich Chanravy
Chhuon Chay Ry

2.chinese Taipei
Cheng Shao Chieh
Pai Min Jie
Chien Yu Chin
Chiu Yi Ju
Chang Li Ying
Cheng Wen Hsing
Chou Chia Chi
Yang Chia Tseng
Tsai Pei Ling

3.hong Kong
Wang Chen
Yip Pui Yin
Zhou Mi
Ng Ka Shun
Mong Kwan Yi
Chan Tsz Ka
Chau Hoi Wah
Koon Wai Chee
Tse Ying Suet

4.india
Nehwal Saina
Murgunde Trupti
Mutatkar Aditi
Kurian Shruti
Balan Aparna
Gutta Jwala
Gokhale Sayali
P. Jyotsna

5.japan
Hirose Eriko
Mori Kaori
Hirayama Yu
Imabeppu Kaori
Ogura Kumiko
Shiota Reiko
Suetsuna Satoko
Maeda Miyuki
Matsuda Tomomi
Akao Aki

6.korea
Jun Jae Youn
Hwang Jye Youn
Lee Yun Hwa
Jang Soo Young
Kim Moon Hi
Lee Kyung Won
Lee Hyo Jung
Ha Jung Eun
Kim Min Jung
Hwang Yu Mi

7.malaysia
Wong Mew Choo
Wong Julia Pei Xian
Kaur Anita Raj
Cheah Lydia Li Ya
Wong Pei Tty
Chin Eei Hui
Lim Pek Siah
Haw Chiou Hwee
Ng Hui Lin
Goh Liu Ying

8.singapore
Li Li
Xing Aiying
Fu Mingtian
Gu Juan
Yao Lei
Liu Fan Frances
Li Yujia
Jiang Yanmei
Neo Yu Yan Vanessa
Sari Shinta Mulia

9.sri Lanka
Jayasinghe Thilini
Hettiarachchige Renu Chandrika
Murukuwadura Nadeesha
Kuruppu M. Achini
Handunkutti Lekha
Pepera Gayani
Dahanayake Subodha
Samanthika Upuli

10.thailand
Ponsana Salakjit
Chansrisukot Soratja
Buranaprasertsuk Porntip
Taerattanachai Sapsiree
Aroonkesorn Duanganong
Voravichitchaikul Kunchala
Thoungthongkam Saralee

11.vietnam
Le Ngoc Nguyen Nhung
Le Thi Thanh Thuy
Nguyen Thi Sen
Phung Nguyen Phuong Nhi
Phi Thi Quynh Mai
Vu Thi Trang (b)
Tran Thi Thanh Thao

[cxytdn]

thomas Cup Team Entries By Names

Badminton Asia Confederation

1.cambodia
Nuon Sophorn
Troeung Veasna
Teav Yong Vannak
Chea Bun Chanbol

2.chinese Taipei
Tsai Chia Hsin
Hu Chung Hsien
Lee Sheng Mu
Fang Chien Min
Chien Yu Hsun
Lin Yu Lang
Hsieh Yu Hsing
Liao Sheng Shiun
Hsueh Hsuan Yi
Chu Han Chou

3.hong Kong
Ng Wei
Chan Yan Kit
Wong Wai Hong
Wong Wing Ki
Wiratama Yohan Hadikusumo
Hui Wai Ho
Njoto Albertus Susanto
Putra Alroy Tanama
Leung Chun Yiu

4.india
Sridhar Anup
Bhat Arvind
Anand Chetan
Kashyap P
Vidyadhar J.b.s.
Thomas Sanave
Diju V.
Dewalkar Akshay
Kumar Rupesh

5.japan
Sato Shoji
Sasaki Sho
Tago Kenichi
Endo Hiroyuki
Masuda Keita
Ohtsuka Tadashi
Sakamoto Shuichi
Iketa Shintaro
Kawaguchi Keishi
Kawamae Naoki

6.korea
Park Sung Hwan
Lee Hyun Ii
Shon Seung Mo
Lee Cheol Ho
Lee Yong Dae
Jung Jae Sung
Hwang Ji Man
Lee Jae Jin
Han Sang Hoon
Cho Gun Woo

7.macau
Lam Chi Man
Chan Io Chong
Lei Kit
Mou Chi Keong
Ng Man Chon
Ho Si Un

8.malaysia
Lee Chong Wei
Hashim Muhd Hafiz
Wong Choong Hann
Abdul Latif Mohamad Arif
Koo Kien Keat
Tan Boon Heong
Choong Tan Fook
Lee Wan Wah
Abdul Latif Mohd Zakry
Mohd Tazari Mohd Fairuzizuan

9.pakistan
Ali Wajid
Zeeshan Umer
Qamar Ahsan
Muhammad Attique
Azam Rizwan
Ahmad M. Waqas
Sulehri Kashif

10.philippines
Escoses Lloyd
Flores Christopher
Mendez Ralph Ian
Salvaleon Reczon

11.singapore
Susilo Ronald
Lee Yen Hui Kendrick
Chen Yong Zhao Ashton
Tan Wei Kiat Aaron
Wong Zi Liang Derek
Wijaya Hendra
Saputra Hendri Kurniawan
Khoo Kian Teck
Yeo Zhao Jiang Terry

12.sri Lanka
Karunaratne Niluka
Karunaratne Dinuka
Karunaratne Diluka
Karunatilleke Lasitha
Fernando Eranga
Kasun R.s
Jayakody Duminda
Kumarapperuma Chameera
Jayawardena K.g.k.
Dahanayake R.s

13.thailand
Player's Name
Ponsana Boonsak
Sapkulchananart Poompat
Vilailak Pakkawat
Saensomboonsuk Tanongsak
Prapakamol Sudket
Ngensrisuk Phattapol
Anugritayawon Songphon
Panvisa Vas Tesana
Saengsila Nitipong

14.vietnam
Nguyen Tien Minh
Duong Phuong Nam
Nguyen Hoang Hai
Nguyen Quang Minh
Nguyen Huy Giang
Bui Bang Duc
Pham Cao Hieu
Duong Bao Duc
Dao Manh Thang
Tran Thanh Hai

[cxytdn]

TU Cup Q 2008 Tentative Schedule of Play

[PlayaFromMalaya]

will they show these matches on tv?

[Loh]

Poor Cambodia is only able to put up 4 players each for both TC and UC.

And most probably it will be a hard uphill climb for most of them against the more experienced teams.

But still it is a start to gain more experience and to prepare for the future.

[hollywood_t]

Hmm,

Group D will be a dogfight for first place between HK and Thailand. Winner has good shot at going to finals as they will probably face Singapore runner up in group B. That should be pretty good.




WBF's NEWS did so, I think it should be as follows:

Thomas Cup qualifiers (Asian Zone):

Group A: Malaysia, Chinese Taipei, Pakistan, Cambodia;
Group B: Korea, Singapore, Vietnam;
Group C: Japan, India, Philippines;
Group D: Hong Kong, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Macau.

[badders7]

when are the european qualifiers?Next week. Starting on tuesday. Results can be found on: http://tournamentsoftware.com/sport/tournament.aspx?id=18141

It counts as both european championships and qualification rounds for Thomas/Uber cup.

[abedeng]

We never had the same thing, two tourneys counted as one, in Asia.

Fact is, we never had an Asian team championships.

[cxytdn]

Fact is, we never had an Asian team championships.

In 1993, China won Asian Men's Team Championships.

[cxytdn]

If England wins 4th place in Women's Team Championships, European would have 4 teams for Uber Cup Finals.

[PlayaFromMalaya]

In 1993, China won Asian Men's Team Championships.

that year the asian team championships replaced the individual rite..?


will the thomas cup qualifiers be shown live on tv?

[Noridayu]

Mr Loh,

Is Li Li competing in Uber qualifiers for S'pore? With her around, it would be an interesting MAS vs SIN confrontation.
Dear Abedeng,

Do not worry Li Li has quit the National team. It is good news for Malaysia Uber Team. Let's hope that our Malaysia Uber team will qualify based on merit. Malaysia Boleh, Abedeng!

From:
Ayu

[Loh]

Dear Abedeng,

Do not worry Li Li has quit the National team. It is good news for Malaysia Uber Team. Let's hope that our Malaysia Uber team will qualify based on merit. Malaysia Boleh, Abedeng!

From:
Ayu

Hi Brother Din

Why don't you ask the Malaysian authorities to give Ayu Malaysian citizenship? Then we won't have to contend with her at the badminton stadium and be embarrassed when she kept on cheering Malaysia Boleh when Malaysia meets Singapore, instead of the other way round! :(

[gitee]

Dear Abedeng,

Do not worry Li Li has quit the National team. It is good news for Malaysia Uber Team. Let's hope that our Malaysia Uber team will qualify based on merit. Malaysia Boleh, Abedeng!

From:
Ayu


Ha. ha. One can looks on Li Li quitting as a blessing to Singapore's Uber Cup team. The Singapore Uber Cup team will be without pressure and teams like Malaysia will be offguard, thinking they are easy meat. Actually, Li Li in the team will also not give Singapore any winning point. She is always a born loser. Always losing. So, my dear friend Singapore, it is a good omen to be without Li Li. Get rid of your burden. It's high time as she never delivers. Her head has swollen so big since she won the Commonwealth Games 2002 Gold Medal that she has never been able to recover. So move on, Singapore. It will be a blessing in disguise.

[abedeng]

Ayu, let's not jump to conclusions. I've seen many teams who became stronger without a key player at their side. Best case, the Malaysian 1976 Thomas Cup squad who made it to the final without a single top 10 player in their ranks. Or the Indonesian 2000 squad, who beat the strongest ever Danish lineup since the 60s on the way to the title.

With only 3 best Asian Uber Cup teams guaranteed a place, even if Malaysia pass through Singapore (which is NOT guaranteed), there is still JPN, TPE or HK to fight against.

gitee,

A born loser does not beat the World Champion, twice. Or beat the SEA Games champ, in last year's team competition. I think we owe Li Li more credit than that, although it has to be said that Singapore's women's singles squad performs unevenly the past few years. Probably due to not being sent to many top competitions.

[abedeng]

Well, since the European qualifier will start off a week before the Asian one, we will practically know if Asian will get 3 or 4 slots in Uber Cup.

Briefly, here are the European Top 8 Women's Team Ranking so far:-
England - 5
Germany - 8
Denmark - 10
Holland - 12
Russia - 13
France - 16
Sweden - 18
Bulgaria - 19

And here are the Top 8 Asian ranking bar China and Indonesia:-
Hong Kong - 2
Japan - 3
Korea - 4
Malaysia - 6
Chinese Taipei - 9
Singapore - 10
Thailand - 13
India - 16

The challenge for the individual player is to rake in as many team points as possible before the end-February cutoff date for the final team rankings.

[gitee]

gitee,

A born loser does not beat the World Champion, twice. Or beat the SEA Games champ, in last year's team competition. I think we owe Li Li more credit than that, although it has to be said that Singapore's women's singles squad performs unevenly the past few years. Probably due to not being sent to many top competitions.

Oh ...since when did Li Li beat the World Champion twice ?

Well, she can only do it once in a blue moon. ha ha ...

[hcyong]

Well, since the European qualifier will start off a week before the Asian one, we will practically know if Asian will get 3 or 4 slots in Uber Cup.

Briefly, here are the European Top 8 Women's Team Ranking so far:-
England - 5
Germany - 8
Denmark - 10
Holland - 12
Russia - 13
France - 16
Sweden - 18
Bulgaria - 19

And here are the Top 8 Asian ranking bar China and Indonesia:-
Hong Kong - 2
Japan - 3
Korea - 4
Malaysia - 6
Chinese Taipei - 9
Singapore - 10
Thailand - 13
India - 16

The challenge for the individual player is to rake in as many team points as possible before the end-February cutoff date for the final team rankings.

Based on current ranking, even if ENG somehow gets 4th placing, Asia could still get 4 slots if either HKG, JPN or KOR somehow gets 4th placing.

[cxytdn]

Based on current ranking, even if ENG somehow gets 4th placing, Asia could still get 4 slots if either HKG, JPN or KOR somehow gets 4th placing.

It's a different thing for malaysia to get 4th place..............

[champion8]

i dont understand? if Mlaysia get the 4th place then do asia get the 4th place if England gets the 4th place.

[abedeng]

If the rankings stay the same, no. England will go through.

However, the final rankings will depend on how many points each individual player amasses during the qualifying competition. In MAS and ENG's case, the 2nd singles and 1st doubles ranking are very close to each other, could easily go the other way if MAS players win their matches and ENG lose theirs.

[vching]

Hi Brother Din

Why don't you ask the Malaysian authorities to give Ayu Malaysian citizenship? Then we won't have to contend with her at the badminton stadium and be embarrassed when she kept on cheering Malaysia Boleh when Malaysia meets Singapore, instead of the other way round! :(

u know how hard it is to get a Malaysian citizenship?

[Loh]

u know how hard it is to get a Malaysian citizenship?

Well ayu is trying very very hard at every tournament where Malaysian players are playing. The day may come. :rolleyes:

[hcyong]

It's a different thing for malaysia to get 4th place..............

If MAS gets 4th place, the likelihood that Asia will get 4 slots is still rather high. What is the likelihood of ENG actually getting 4th place? Fortunately for MAS, the European competition finishes first, so they will know exactly what placing they need to qualify.

Still, I give MAS only about 60% chance of getting any position in the top four.

[hcyong]

Well ayu is trying very very hard at every tournament where Malaysian players are playing. The day may come. :rolleyes:

Why do you need to be a Malaysian to support the Malaysian badminton team? In that case, a lot of football fans will have to convert to Brazilian citizenship.

[Loh]

Why do you need to be a Malaysian to support the Malaysian badminton team? In that case, a lot of football fans will have to convert to Brazilian citizenship.

When your own country is playing against another and your countryman is not supporting your own country but the opponents openly instead, in my opinion, this is very bad for morale and simply lacks patriotism. If other countrymen also follow suit, then what will become of one's country's nationalism.

In a difficult situation when I also like the opponent country, I ought to be diplomatic and keep neutral and not cheer openly for the opponents for all to see. It will be a great embarrassment if one did so.

If one does not support one's own country and be proud of its achievements, who will readily take one's place? Then one might as well be a citizen of another country that one feels proud of.

It is different when one's own country is not involved.

[huangkwokhau]

I have heard that Zhou Mi is not eligible to play for HKG Uber yet..so HKG will need Wang Chen/Yip to play 2nd WD.....

[tjl_vanguard]

I have heard that Zhou Mi is not eligible to play for HKG Uber yet..so HKG will need Wang Chen/Yip to play 2nd WD.....
reli?? i tot ZM already started playin representing HK.. y cant she play in Uber yet??

[huangkwokhau]

reli?? i tot ZM already started playin representing HK.. y cant she play in Uber yet??
I am not really clear....I believe that she has not stayed in HKG for 2 yrs yet...just been told when I had dinner

[edwin]

I am not really clear....I believe that she has not stayed in HKG for 2 yrs yet...just been told when I had dinner
You may want to verify with your source, as Uber/Thomas cup criteria is not as strict as the Olympic Games or the Asian Games.

I remember in 2000, Agus Haryanto, Njoto, and Wang Chen all played for HK in the Thomas/Uber Cup. Wang Chen was in HK for less than a year. Haryanto and Njoto may not have been in HK for 2 years as well (at least Njoto was not allowed to play in 2004 Olympics 4 years afterwards)

[huangkwokhau]

You may want to verify with your source, as Uber/Thomas cup criteria is not as strict as the Olympic Games or the Asian Games.

I remember in 2000, Agus Haryanto, Njoto, and Wang Chen all played for HK in the Thomas/Uber Cup. Wang Chen was in HK for less than a year. Haryanto and Njoto may not have been in HK for 2 years as well (at least Njoto was not allowed to play in 2004 Olympics 4 years afterwards)
mY sources? from HK players....actually I am shocked also.....even Alroy Tanama Putra was not sure if he would be allowed but since they are leaving on sunday, I guess he is playing....thats what I mean..I am not clear....

[hcyong]

Olympics is very strict. You have to be a citizen AND (if you have converted citizenship) you must also have lived in that country for a number of years.

BWF is not that strict but there are still some requirements.

[abedeng]

I have heard that Zhou Mi is not eligible to play for HKG Uber yet..so HKG will need Wang Chen/Yip to play 2nd WD.....

If ZM is not eligible, than HK world team ranking should be adjusted to cater for that.

The ranking is based on the strength of the WS squad, that's why HK is above Korea.

[huangkwokhau]

If ZM is not eligible, than HK world team ranking should be adjusted to cater for that.

The ranking is based on the strength of the WS squad, that's why HK is above Korea.
As I am writing, HKG has not decided who will be 3rd single....I hope we will know more by Friday who will be going...I know that HGK will try Wang Chen/Yip as 2nd WD...

One of HKG players told me that there is some changes regarding the rules but I have not seen in BWF website....

[huangkwokhau]

In 1st simulation between Singapore and Djarum club as follows:

1. Men competition
SIn def Djarum 3-2
Singapore won all 3 singles and lost all doubles to Djarum

2.Women competition

SIN def Djarum 3-2
Singapore won 1 single ( Maria Elfira lost) and won 2 doubles but Djarum won 2 singles

I do not have the scores..

The 2nd simulation will be on Feb 15..

Singapore has a lot to do if they want to qualify toJakarta...

[edwin]

mY sources? from HK players....actually I am shocked also.....even Alroy Tanama Putra was not sure if he would be allowed but since they are leaving on sunday, I guess he is playing....thats what I mean..I am not clear....

My appologies. When you first said that you were not very clear, I thought it's because there something is fishy about your source. But now that you've mentioned that your sources are from HK players, I now know that your information should be very accurate. Sorry about that.

If ZM is indeed not allowed to play, I hope to see Mong Kwun Yi playing HK's 3rd singles and get more international exposure. I thought she did OK when she played against Tracey Hallam during last year's HK Open.

From your other post, I will say it's very interesting that Wang Chen and Yip Pui Yin will play 2nd doubles. Chan Chi Choi must have enough faith for Koon Wai Chee/Chau Hoi Wah to be able to get some points from the 1st doubles. Koon Wai Chee/Wang Chen have won many key victories in doubles during team events, and this the reason why HK did well in Uber Cup, Sudirman Cup, and the Asian Games back in the early 2000's.

[huangkwokhau]

My appologies. When you first said that you were not very clear, I thought it's because there something is fishy about your source. But now that you've mentioned that your sources are from HK players, I now know that your information should be very accurate. Sorry about that.

If ZM is indeed not allowed to play, I hope to see Mong Kwun Yi playing HK's 3rd singles and get more international exposure. I thought she did OK when she played against Tracey Hallam during last year's HK Open.

From your other post, I will say it's very interesting that Wang Chen and Yip Pui Yin will play 2nd doubles. Chan Chi Choi must have enough faith for Koon Wai Chee/Chau Hoi Wah to be able to get some points from the 1st doubles. Koon Wai Chee/Wang Chen have won many key victories in doubles during team events, and this the reason why HK did well in Uber Cup, Sudirman Cup, and the Asian Games back in the early 2000's.

No problem...I would like to see ZM play also....until now, even they registered the players' name, they are not sure who will be going until l;ast minute...more likely today, we will know more and I will update you guys........in the training Wang Chen/Yip played well against HK's Louisa Koon/Chau...

[abedeng]

If ZM plays, HK will be a great threat to CHN if they qualify.

Wonder if the rules were, ahem "adjusted" to some party's favour ......

[ants]

HKG needed Zhou Mi for her experience and Leadership. If she can't play for HK.. she can still be the coach for Team HKG during the Olympics.

[gitee]

My appologies. When you first said that you were not very clear, I thought it's because there something is fishy about your source. But now that you've mentioned that your sources are from HK players, I now know that your information should be very accurate. Sorry about that.

If ZM is indeed not allowed to play, I hope to see Mong Kwun Yi playing HK's 3rd singles and get more international exposure. I thought she did OK when she played against Tracey Hallam during last year's HK Open.

From your other post, I will say it's very interesting that Wang Chen and Yip Pui Yin will play 2nd doubles. Chan Chi Choi must have enough faith for Koon Wai Chee/Chau Hoi Wah to be able to get some points from the 1st doubles. Koon Wai Chee/Wang Chen have won many key victories in doubles during team events, and this the reason why HK did well in Uber Cup, Sudirman Cup, and the Asian Games back in the early 2000's.


Wang Chen is not bothered about team event. She is only interested in qualifying for Olympics and doing well for the last time she plays in Olympics. So, she will not risk herself to play Singles and doubles.

[huangkwokhau]

Wang Chen is not bothered about team event. She is only interested in qualifying for Olympics and doing well for the last time she plays in Olympics. So, she will not risk herself to play Singles and doubles.
I heard that she will play double, especially against Taipeh since Zhou Mi is not going after all

[huangkwokhau]

Hongkong team and Malaysian team are leaving tomorrow for Vietnam

[abedeng]

You going, Hau-ge?

[huangkwokhau]

You going, Hau-ge?
Hehe......not sure....I have invitation to go there...hehe...I have meetings in china next week.....I would like to see HKG vs Thailand on Wed or thursday...anyway....lets see!! I have promised to INA players that if one of them being in final, I would be there...but I got sick...:D:D oen of them hated me...

[huangkwokhau]

2nd simulation between SIN vs Djarum

a. Men competition

Djarum def Sin 3-2

b. Women competition

Sin def Djarum 3-2

Sin team will leave for Vietnam tomorrow noon and they will travel extensively for one month ( vietnam,German Open, AE and Swiss Open)

[badMania]

Wang Chen is not bothered about team event. She is only interested in qualifying for Olympics and doing well for the last time she plays in Olympics. So, she will not risk herself to play Singles and doubles.

Errr...the Qualification tournaments DO OFFER important Olympics points. Its quite a juicy one as well (ranking point/10 + sum of total ranking points of all opponents/100), and Wang Chen should play at least 1 WS match to ensure she gets at least 6292 points (almost equivalent to Semi-Finals for SS events in her case!).

[V3i HoN6]

Should we arrr... separate a thread for Uber team if it will be easier to read?
Starting from tomorrow, it's gonna be hot in here and having both Men and Women teams in the same thread could be confusing.

So does India team coming or not?

[gitee]

mY sources? from HK players....actually I am shocked also.....even Alroy Tanama Putra was not sure if he would be allowed but since they are leaving on sunday, I guess he is playing....thats what I mean..I am not clear....

Is Alroy a HK Citizen already ? When did he goes to HK ? I learnt that he started playing in 2006 for HK. I also know HK not so easy to get citizenship.
He holds HK passport ?

[nhatha]

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[nhatha]

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[nhatha]

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[nhatha]

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[nhatha]

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[nhatha]

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[hcyong]

great pics.

Hafiz looks so young in that pic.