Dear members,

On 15-20 April, there will be a tournament on Johore Bahru held in Stadium Bandaraya Johore Bahru. I will be attending the event. I believe that many top players will be compete in this event. Hope to see u all there.

From:
Ayu

Kak Ayu..Wanna meet up..I will be there for sure...I think i will go from the first round if there are some nice matches.

Kak Ayu..Wanna meet up..I will be there for sure...I think i will go from the first round if there are some nice matches.


so fast all of u plan to go to Johore.

Kak Ayu..Wanna meet up..I will be there for sure...I think i will go from the first round if there are some nice matches.
Dear Jessica,

I will inform you the list of participants when I got it.

Thank You.

From:
Ayu

Dear members,

On 15-20 April, there will be a tournament on Johore Bahru held in Stadium Bandaraya Johore Bahru. I will be attending the event. I believe that many top players will be compete in this event. Hope to see u all there.

From:
Ayu

Hi Ayu,

I'm seriously considering to go. Would you know where the official hotel is? How about tickets? Thanks and hope to see you there.

Hi Ayu,

I'm seriously considering to go. Would you know where the official hotel is? How about tickets? Thanks and hope to see you there.
I think the official hotel is New York hotel which is very near to the stadium.The tickets can get in the stadium when the date is nearer.Hope to see you there.:)

Usually Loh will go. I will go if nothing else comes up.

Hi Ayu,

I'm seriously considering to go. Would you know where the official hotel is? How about tickets? Thanks and hope to see you there.
Jessica is right.New York Hotel is just across the road and I mean exactly that.(Not abedeng's definition of 'just across the road' meaning like 0.5 km!!!)
Tickets are easy to get. Just bring money, not credit card.No need to seriously consider. Not efficient like Spore but nicely disorganised and easygoing atmosphere.

Jessica is right.New York Hotel is just across the road and I mean exactly that.(Not abedeng's definition of 'just across the road' meaning like 0.5 km!!!)
Tickets are easy to get. Just bring money, not credit card.No need to seriously consider. Not efficient like Spore but nicely disorganised and easygoing atmosphere.
Dear pjswift,

I hope that many supporters will come down to watch the matches. I will definitely be there to support my Malaysia team.

Thank You.

From:
Ayu

Dear pjswift,

I hope that many supporters will come down to watch the matches. I will definitely be there to support my Malaysia team.

Thank You.

From:
Ayu
Dear Ayu,
I will listen to you and turn up every day.It'll be great if you can 'chup' a seat for me cos I'm not usually early.
Thank you.
From:
pjswift

Unfortunately i won't be able to attend.

...Tickets are easy to get. Just bring money, not credit card.No need to seriously consider. Not efficient like Spore but nicely disorganised and easygoing atmosphere.
That's quite a description :D

By the way, does anyone have pictures of this venue?

Jessica is right.New York Hotel is just across the road and I mean exactly that.(Not abedeng's definition of 'just across the road' meaning like 0.5 km!!!)


We can't escape from 0.5 km walk if the stadium is part of a huge sports complex ..... :p

Whereas the the JB stadium is within the city area, all by itself.

Dear Ayu,
I will listen to you and turn up every day.It'll be great if you can 'chup' a seat for me cos I'm not usually early.
Thank you.
From:
pjswift

Dear pjswift,

I could not not promise you that I can reserve the seat for you. As I will be rushing from my work to Johore. I hope that it will not jam so that I can watch the match on the dot.

From:
Ayu

i'm planning to go.. can someone provide some details of it?? i need to plan for transportation as well as accomodation... im flyin der from sarawak... right across South CHina Sea... and my first time to JB.. so need some help... especially budget hotels... anyone got da info??

jb again....however it is a good news 4 me coz i live in Jb.

Plenty of budget hotels, but won't be that close to the venue.

Plenty of budget hotels, but won't be that close to the venue.

Not that far also. If you walk, at most it will take you 30 mins.

Not that far also. If you walk, at most it will take you 30 mins.

Yup, but I thought we are talking about avoiding 0.5 km walks .... :D

jb again....however it is a good news 4 me coz i live in Jb.

maybe tell me where u live... i'll stay wit u at ur houz!! :D jk....

anyone here who is goin??

Yup, but I thought we are talking about avoiding 0.5 km walks .... :D
I'm looking forward to the 0.5 km walks even if the Century Park Hotel has a gym...then can freely enjoy Rudy's great food tour whole day anytime!

Not that far also. If you walk, at most it will take you 30 mins.
JB is not exactly a walk-friendly place.The most dangerous part about walking in JB is those motorbike cowboys.There's been not a few fatalities and maiming injuries, reported or otherwise, caused by these snatch thieves.It's important to walk with that awareness in mind but for 30 minutes?Taking a taxi, however ,will take care of the problem, no worries.

Usually Loh will go. I will go if nothing else comes up.

Why don't we go together? Maybe stay a night in JB? :)

Dear pjswift,

I could not not promise you that I can reserve the seat for you. As I will be rushing from my work to Johore. I hope that it will not jam so that I can watch the match on the dot.

From:
Ayu

Ayu, walk across the causeway lah, maybe faster and good exercise too. :D

Some picture of the 2006 tournament from my album:

so, who confirm going? May be shud come out with the list???

I'm looking forward to the 0.5 km walks even if the Century Park Hotel has a gym...then can freely enjoy Rudy's great food tour whole day anytime!

Yes, it has a gym and swimming pool too. And unlike New York Hotel, it's not reputed to be haunted ...... :eek:

Louisa, timing is not right, critical point in one of my projects. At most I can probably only go during semis and final day.

Yes, it has a gym and swimming pool too. And unlike New York Hotel, it's not reputed to be haunted ...... :eek:

Louisa, timing is not right, critical point in one of my projects. At most I can probably only go during semis and final day.
Sigh!!! seems like is difficult to arrange a meeting, hahaha....if i m going, will be there for semis n final, too...

Sigh!!! seems like is difficult to arrange a meeting, hahaha....if i m going, will be there for semis n final, too...
Important that you come since abedeng hinted New York Hotel may be haunted. Need you to police that to protect the players.ABC likely to be SS quality since still has Olympic ranking points?

i got your PM louisa. maybe will try to attend. :) JB is much more feasible to me than TC in jakarta :D

i got your PM louisa. maybe will try to attend. :) JB is much more feasible to me than TC in jakarta :D

In that case, Abang Din must come and I will cross the causeway on foot and walk all the way to City Stadium!:D

Important that you come since abedeng hinted New York Hotel may be haunted. Need you to police that to protect the players.ABC likely to be SS quality since still has Olympic ranking points?
I need u to police me....:D
i got your PM louisa. maybe will try to attend. :) JB is much more feasible to me than TC in jakarta :D
Hmmm, so, ms ipoh, how? sounds attractive rite? remember our karaoke date?
In that case, Abang Din must come and I will cross the causeway on foot and walk all the way to City Stadium!:D
The causeway is only 10 minutes from New York Hotel...I go checked just now...

We can arrange like TC/UC, stay at the same hotel, got companion ma

but new york hotel is haunted....!!!!:eek::eek::p;):D:D:D

Hmm..I am going as well..Hope to meet you all there...

Actually there are still several hotels near the stadium beside New York hotel but of course New York hotel is the nearest hotel and if you all want to shopping can also go to Plaza Pelangi which is very near to the stadium.

Actually there are still several hotels near the stadium beside New York hotel but of course New York hotel is the nearest hotel and if you all want to shopping can also go to Plaza Pelangi which is very near to the stadium.

Jess, are you from JB?

Jess, are you from JB?
Yup..I am from Johor Bharu..:):)

Yup..I am from Johor Bharu..:):)

Then tell us more about JB. ;)

Then tell us more about JB. ;)
Errm...Ok...In many people view,JB tend to be a very dangerous city with all the snatch thieves and the high crime percentage.All my relatives feel so dangerous for my family when they heard we live in JB.:D:D:rolleyes:Anyway,JB is a beautiful city beside KL.There are a lot of good foods and good places to visit here.Hmm..Uncle Loh, why you did not come to JB once a while since you are so near to it???:rolleyes:;)

Errm...Ok...In many people view,JB tend to be a very dangerous city with all the snatch thieves and the high crime percentage.All my relatives feel so dangerous for my family when they heard we live in JB.:D:D:rolleyes:Anyway,JB is a beautiful city beside KL.There are a lot of good foods and good places to visit here.Hmm..Uncle Loh, why you did not come to JB once a while since you are so near to it???:rolleyes:;)

No one knowledgeable about the place to bring me around. Actually I've never stayed overnight in JB. Most times, its a day trip.

Now tell us more about some interesting places around City Stadium, apart from Plaza Pelangi - food, sights, recreation, etc. :D

No one knowledgeable about the place to bring me around. Actually I've never stayed overnight in JB. Most times, its a day trip.

Now tell us more about some interesting places around City Stadium, apart from Plaza Pelangi - food, sights, recreation, etc. :D
Well...For food,you don't have to worry..Around Paza Pelangi,there are a lot of good food as long as you bring enough money..:D:DDo you know what is mee hun kwee???There is one very famous mee hun kwee stall around Plaza Pelangi which everyday full of peoples.If you have chance,you must try it.Inside Plaza Pelangi also have many nice food.For recreation,you can go to Danga Bay at night.Danga Bay is very beautiful at night with all the lights and the interesting programme.:rolleyes::p:)

Well...For food,you don't have to worry..Around Paza Pelangi,there are a lot of good food as long as you bring enough money..:D:DDo you know what is mee hun kwee???There is one very famous mee hun kwee stall around Plaza Pelangi which everyday full of peoples.If you have chance,you must try it.Inside Plaza Pelangi also have many nice food.For recreation,you can go to Danga Bay at night.Danga Bay is very beautiful at night with all the lights and the interesting programme.:rolleyes::p:)

Heard about Danga Bay. How far is it from NY Hotel. Any public transport to go there? :)

Heard about Danga Bay. How far is it from NY Hotel. Any public transport to go there? :)
I think you can reach there within 20 minutes...The best transport in JB is definitely taxi.You better don't put hope on our public bus because the service is very bad..:(:o

Well...For food,you don't have to worry..Around Paza Pelangi,there are a lot of good food as long as you bring enough money..:D:DDo you know what is mee hun kwee???There is one very famous mee hun kwee stall around Plaza Pelangi which everyday full of peoples.If you have chance,you must try it.


Is this stall near Lien Hoe Complex at Taman Sentosa?

I think you can reach there within 20 minutes...The best transport in JB is definitely taxi.You better don't put hope on our public bus because the service is very bad..:(:o

wish there are metered taxis in JB :)

Is this stall near Lien Hoe Complex at Taman Sentosa?



wish there are metered taxis in JB :)
Nop..The stall is around Plaza Pelangi..I think the Lian Hoe Complex one is quite good too..

but new york hotel is haunted....!!!!:eek::eek::p;):D:D:D
..who says one will feel hunkydory staying at a hotel called New York Hotel??..:confused: :rolleyes::p

but new york hotel is haunted....!!!!:eek::eek::p;):D:D:D
You believe abedeng? BAM purposely choose a haunted hotel as the official hotel?!!!Anyway, it's gonna be a hot tournament and like Jessica said,JB's a great place.Some more, next to the venue is the Traffic Police Station but I think our PAW police is more powerful.

You believe abedeng? BAM purposely choose a haunted hotel as the official hotel?!!!Anyway, it's gonna be a hot tournament and like Jessica said,JB's a great place.Some more, next to the venue is the Traffic Police Station but I think our PAW police is more powerful.
y me again?????????????:D

r u sure PAW POLICE is more powerful????:p

looks like lee chong wei maybe will not come to JB to participate this ABC

from thestar.com.my

Thursday March 20, 2008


Badminton: Time off for Chong Wei
By RAJES PAUL

PETALING JAYA: Top national men’s singles shuttler Lee Chong Wei (pic) can afford to take it easy.
Now that he is in a comfortable position to be seeded second at the Beijing Olympic Games, the shuttler knows he can afford to take a short break.
http://www.thestar.com.my/archives/2008/3/20/sports/s_66lee.jpg And that’s why the world No. 2 may skip the Asian Badminton Championships (ABC) from April 15-20 in Johor Baru.
The ABC is the last tournament that offers Olympic qualifying points. The Olympic qualifying period ends on April 30.
Chong Wei said he was mentally tired after competing in three tournaments – Thomas Cup qualifiers, All-England and Swiss Open – in the last 1½ months.
His decision to skip the ABC, however, would depend on his coach Misbun Sidek.
“I would love to compete in the ABC. It is a home tournament and I want to give the home supporters something to cheer about. But I am tired,” said Chong Wei.
“It has been a hectic month. Right now, I feel confident with my position as the world number two player. I should be seeded second for the Olympics.
“If I compete in the ABC, I would definitely want to go all out and that would require me to focus a lot. It could all prove too much – mentally. I’d rather save my energy and give my best in the Thomas Cup Finals.”
Chong Wei is set to play an important role as the first singles player in the Finals which will be held in Jakarta from May 11-18.
“But, having said that, I will let my coach decide. If Misbun wants me to just go there (to the ABC tournament) and sweat it out, then I will be heading south,” he said.
Chong Wei also said that he was satisfied with his performances in the All-England and Swiss Open.
“Last year, I made it to the top eight of the All-England and crashed out in the first round of the Swiss Open. This year, I reached the All-England semi-finals and finished as the Swiss Open runner-up. I have no complaints,” he said.
“In the two tournaments, I defeated the main Asian countries’ top singles players, except for Lin Dan of China. This gives me the psychological edge before the Thomas Cup Finals.”
In the All-England, Chong Wei defeated Olympic champion Taufik Hidayat of Indonesia.
In the Swiss Open, he outplayed top players from South Korea and Denmark – Park Sung-hwan and Kenneth Jonassen respectively.
Although his participation in the ABC hangs in balance, Chong Wei said he was certain to make the trip north to compete in the National Grand Prix Finals in Alor Star next weekend. Chong Wei is aiming to win the national title for a record seventh successive time.

George, what are you doing up in KL?

Your Chong Wei will not compete in JB so you will not have a chance to see him in person.

Come with us to Jakarta for the TC. You can cheer LCW together with me and I will take a pic of you standing side by side with LCW. How about that? :D

LCW might go last minute... :)

sorry to ask..maybe got the wrong thread, but i'm just wondering, before this ABC, there should be another homeground tournament in Kedah (if i'm not mistaken), rite?

when will it be held?
will top shuttlers like LCW, CTF/LWW and KKK/TBH participate?

thanks..

George, what are you doing up in KL?

Your Chong Wei will not compete in JB so you will not have a chance to see him in person.

Come with us to Jakarta for the TC. You can cheer LCW together with me and I will take a pic of you standing side by side with LCW. How about that? :D
i also wants to take picture and meet him in person, loh..
but on that week, im not able to come becoz i got a very important project to do..:mad:
so sad that cant join u guys to there:mad::mad::crying::crying:
maybe we can meet up in next year MO or ABC?:)

George, you going over for ABC? I will be... shall we meet? :D

George, you going over for ABC? I will be... shall we meet? :D

Go, meet up with Jessica. If I decide to go, I'll meet up with both of you! But do let me have your contact numbers since I've never seen both of you before. :D

Go, meet up with Jessica. If I decide to go, I'll meet up with both of you! But do let me have your contact numbers since I've never seen both of you before. :D
Hmm..Uncle Loh,if you decide already you can tell me...We can meet up and will you treat me a meal???:D:D:rolleyes:

Hmm..Uncle Loh,if you decide already you can tell me...We can meet up and will you treat me a meal???:D:D:rolleyes:

Of course Jess, together with our young friend from Sarawak! :D

George, you going over for ABC? I will be... shall we meet? :D
hmm, looks like i havent plan yet:rolleyes:;)
hehe:p

Chong Wei might go for it ....

Look's like Team INA is going to send quite a huge contingent, in prepartion of the Thomas Cup and Beijing Olympics points.

From today's Kompas:

Semua Pemain Didaftarkan ke Kejuaraan Asia
"Every Player is listed to be sent to the Badminton Asia Championships" (but not necessarily sent eventually)

Some snippets:
Ketua Bidang Pembinaan Prestasi PB PBSI Lius Pongoh mengatakan, perhitungan untuk mengirimkan atau tidaknya mereka, terutama Sony Dwi Kuncoro, sangat penting karena akan terkait dengan peringkat dunia sebagai indikator posisi mereka di tim Thomas.
Seusai tersingkir pada babak pertama di Swiss Super Series, 11-16 Maret, Sony diharapkan bisa tampil maksimal di Kejuaraan Asia agar target utama peringkatnya bisa di atas Taufik Hidayat tercapai. Sesuai peraturan, daftar peringkat yang akan keluar 24 April akan menjadi patokan penentuan posisi pemain di tim.

Lius Pongoh stated that the decision of whether or not those players will be sent, esp Sony Dwi Kuncoro, will become important because it will be linked to their World Ranking, which will be an indication of their position in the Thomas Cup team.

After losing in the first round of the Swiss Open earlier this month, Sony is hoped to give his best in the BAC in order to achive the top target: his final ranking to be above Taufik Hidayat (good strategy!). According to the rules, the ranking list as of 24th April will become the eventual barometer of final order of players in the team.

Hal itu dilakukan agar Indonesia bisa mengamankan angka dari tunggal kedua melalui Taufik. Dengan kekuatan tunggal putra yang pas-pasan, strategi tersebut terpaksa harus dilakukan karena mendapat angka dari tunggal pertama saat melawan tim-tim kuat, seperti Malaysia dan China, akan sulit, termasuk seandainya Taufik yang menjadi tunggal pertama.

Dalam beberapa pertemuan terakhir, Taufik dan Sony tak bisa memenangi pertandingan melawan Lin Dan (China) dan Lee Chong Wei (Malaysia) yang menjadi tunggal pertama di tim masing-masing.

This strategy is to ensure that Indonesia can win the point from MS2 through Taufik Hidayat. With the quality of men's singles which is just barely similar, Indonesia has to rely on that strategy because it's virtually impossible for them to win the first point from MS1 when facing strong teams like Malaysia and China, including the scenario if Taufik is placedas MS1.

In the last few encounters, both Taufik and Sony could not win their matches against Lin Dan (China) and Lee Chong Wei (Malaysia), who will be the respective MS1 for their own team.

"Namun, jika Sony tampil di Kejuaraan Asia, hasilnya harus maksimal untuk menaikkan peringkat. Minimal Sony harus lolos ke final,” kata Lius. Lius mengakui bahwa strategi yang bagus untuk Indonesia sebenarnya adalah dengan menempatkan Sony sebagai tunggal pertama, Taufik di tunggal kedua, dan Simon Santoso sebagai tunggal ketiga.

Kepentingan berbeda di Kejuaraan Asia berada di tangan Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa. Keberadaan mereka di sana adalah untuk menjegal peluang China mendapat tiga tiket Olimpiade di ganda campuran.

However, if Sony is to compete in the BAC, he has to at least reach the Final in order to boost his ranking, added Lius. He also admitted that the best strategy for Team INA in the Thomas Cup will be to field Sony Dwi Kuncoro, Taufik Hidayat and Simon Santoso as MS1, MS2 and MS3 respectively.

Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa have a different objective in the BAC. Their task is to wreck Team China's chance of fielding 3 XD pairs in the Olympics.

Peraturan Federasi Bulu Tangkis Internasional menyebutkan, sebuah negara berhak atas tiga wakil di Olimpiade jika memiliki tiga pemain/ganda di urutan 1-4. Hal inilah yang harus dicegah Flandy/Vita. Apalagi, nilai mereka dengan Zhongbo/Yawen hanya berbeda 1.420 angka, sangat tipis untuk perbedaan nilai dalam peringkat bulu tangkis.

The WBF rules states that China can have 3 representatives if Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen (ranked 5th) somehow managed to get into the last 4 through the BAC. This is something that has to be prevented by Flandy/Vita, especially since their ranking points differ by a mere 1420 pts!

hmm, looks like i havent plan yet:rolleyes:;)
hehe:p

u had better be quick! :D

anyone have the official website of this tournament?

Good news...LCW will compete in the ABC.This is the news from the star online..

Chong Wei to compete in ABC championships after all

PETALING JAYA: Top national men’s singles shuttler Lee Chong Wei will compete in the Asian Badminton Championships (ABC) in Johor Baru from April 15-20 after all.
The world No. 2 had been hoping to get a break from a hectic schedule but coach Misbun Sidek decided that Chong Wei's presence would lift the profile of the Asian meet.
The Asian meet is the last tournament for shuttlers to gain valuable Olympic ranking points. The qualifiers for the Beijing Olympic Games will be finalised after the April 30 deadline.
Chong Wei had hoped to skip the tournament claiming he was mentally tired after competing in the Thomas Cup qualifiers in Vietnam, the All-England and the Swiss Open.
He is currently in Alor Star bidding to win his sixth national title.
Based on the Malaysian entries, Chong Wei is still the country’s best bet to win the Asian title again, after having won it in 2006.
The other men’s singles in the fray are Wong Choong Hann, Mohd Hafiz Hashim, Yeoh Kay Bin, Tan Chun Seang and Mohd Arif Abdul Latif.
Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) general manager Kenny Goh said: “We have also named some (players) under the reserve list. These players will take part in the ABC if there are last-minute withdrawals or lack of entries in a particular event.”
A country is allowed to field six men’s singles, six women’s singles, three men’s pairs, three women’s pairs and six mixed doubles pairs for the ABC.

Good news...LCW will compete in the ABC.This is the news from the star online..

Chong Wei to compete in ABC championships after all

PETALING JAYA: Top national men’s singles shuttler Lee Chong Wei will compete in the Asian Badminton Championships (ABC) in Johor Baru from April 15-20 after all.
The world No. 2 had been hoping to get a break from a hectic schedule but coach Misbun Sidek decided that Chong Wei's presence would lift the profile of the Asian meet.
The Asian meet is the last tournament for shuttlers to gain valuable Olympic ranking points. The qualifiers for the Beijing Olympic Games will be finalised after the April 30 deadline.
Chong Wei had hoped to skip the tournament claiming he was mentally tired after competing in the Thomas Cup qualifiers in Vietnam, the All-England and the Swiss Open.
He is currently in Alor Star bidding to win his sixth national title.
Based on the Malaysian entries, Chong Wei is still the country’s best bet to win the Asian title again, after having won it in 2006.
The other men’s singles in the fray are Wong Choong Hann, Mohd Hafiz Hashim, Yeoh Kay Bin, Tan Chun Seang and Mohd Arif Abdul Latif.
Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) general manager Kenny Goh said: “We have also named some (players) under the reserve list. These players will take part in the ABC if there are last-minute withdrawals or lack of entries in a particular event.”
A country is allowed to field six men’s singles, six women’s singles, three men’s pairs, three women’s pairs and six mixed doubles pairs for the ABC.
Dear Jessica,
It is great to hear that LCW is going to participate in the ABC held in Johore Bahru. It will boast our spirit to support our players. Meet you soon,Jessica.

From:
Ayu

Dear Jessica,
It is great to hear that LCW is going to participate in the ABC held in Johore Bahru. It will boast our spirit to support our players. Meet you soon,Jessica.

From:
Ayu
Yup..Hope to meet you there too..:)

Yup..Hope to meet you there too..:)
Dear Jessica,

Kindly open your private massage mail as I have posted some info about myself to you so that each much easier for us to meet.

From:
Ayu

why ng hui lin didnt participate in this tournament?

ahem.. so quite alot of bc forumers are goin huh?? meet u all der!! :D

Hi all,

I might be going too. :)

hcyong and Loh, see u all there if i can make it...

What is Misbun's strategy for sending LCW to participate in ABC? As we all know, ThomasCup and OG08 are around the corner, and most importantly, LCW has already secured No.2 spot. Why Misbun decided to send LCW for ABC? Shouldnt LCW be given good rest and focus on more impt tourneys? :rolleyes:

are you suggesting that the ABC is not an important tournament?
some good ranking points on offer, even if he won't be able to overtake LD it's still good to keep close.
plus, it's on home ground so i think LCW going is a good idea.

as for INA's strategy of keeping SDK ahead of TH in the rankings for the TC, why don't they just not send TH? his place in the OG is already secure as well, unless he wants to boost his seeding.

Hi all,

I might be going too. :)

hcyong and Loh, see u all there if i can make it...

Oh what a pleasant surprise! Hope to see you too. :)

What is Misbun's strategy for sending LCW to participate in ABC? As we all know, ThomasCup and OG08 are around the corner, and most importantly, LCW has already secured No.2 spot. Why Misbun decided to send LCW for ABC? Shouldnt LCW be given good rest and focus on more impt tourneys? :rolleyes:

1) It's the last tourney of OG qualifiying, if LCW doesnt go, he lose ranking points, he played last year. BCL, CJ, are also going for India Open & ABC, both. They will gain some ranking pts in India. Wouldnt they need to rest too since they're also playing for TC & OG?

2) It's held on home ground, organisers=sponsors would want the best in Msia to go. Sponsors who sponsor BAM players.
LCW can rest after TC finals.

1) It's the last tourney of OG qualifiying, if LCW doesnt go, he lose ranking points, he played last year. BCL, CJ, are also going for India Open & ABC, both. They will gain some ranking pts in India. Wouldnt they need to rest too since they're also playing for TC & OG?

2) It's held on home ground, organisers=sponsors would want the best in Msia to go. Sponsors who sponsor BAM players.
LCW can rest after TC finals.
Dear eaglehelang,

I hope that LCW will play in ABC. Without him, the tournament will be bored as Lin Dan will also not participate in this tournament. I also believed that Malaysian fans definitely want to watch LCW play.I think that Misbun wants LCW to gain some points in order to secure the good seeding in the Olympics Games. Especially Bao Chun Lai & Chen Jin is trying to gain OG points too.
I agreed with you that LCW can take a break after Thomas Cup Final and concentrate on his Olympics preparation.

Thank You.
From:
Ayu

ya,i'm suprising for mixed doubles as koo kien keat pair with goh liu ying while wong pei tty pair with lim khim wah

LCW will definitely go to ABC:)

ya,i'm suprising for mixed doubles as koo kien keat pair with goh liu ying while wong pei tty pair with lim khim wah
KKK/Ng HL:eek: Why they being paired up :rolleyes:
Believe me, those 2 pairing will not go far in the ABC.

KKK/Ng HL:eek: Why they being paired up :rolleyes:
Believe me, those 2 pairing will not go far in the ABC.


maybe BAM wanted to try out as the players are still young.

Where's the website or draw?

anyone know is thailand team going to join ABC?
And which China player will participate?

is the draw out yet?? :D

jb again....however it is a good news 4 me coz i live in Jb.
Ur rite..good news for JBrian and Sporean ...;)

Ur rite..good news for JBrian and Sporean ...;)

But this is the last one in JB....of the three contract..:(...dont know where..next year.....:confused:

btw, where`s the official website of this tournament???

LCW is 100% going to ABC. Misbun's reason for sending LCW :

from The Star, 1 April 2008
http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2008/4/1/sports/20806441&sec=sports
.............Yesterday, Misbun defended his decision to field Chong Wei in the championships even though the player had hoped to get a short break from competition following a hectic schedule over the last two months.

“Chong Wei is currently very stable as the world number two. He could have taken a break but I felt that his presence in the ABC was important,” said Misbun after meeting among the coaches in Bukit Jalil yesterday.

“It is another platform for Chong Wei to push himself a little more, especially if he were to meet Chinese players.

“Chong Wei won the Asian title in 2006 but he crashed out in the last 16 last year. This time, I hope to see him reaching at least the semi-finals. It will put him in a good stead ahead of the Thomas Cup Finals (in May).”............

LCW is 100% going to ABC. Misbun's reason for sending LCW :

from The Star, 1 April 2008
http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2008/4/1/sports/20806441&sec=sports
.............Yesterday, Misbun defended his decision to field Chong Wei in the championships even though the player had hoped to get a short break from competition following a hectic schedule over the last two months.

“Chong Wei is currently very stable as the world number two. He could have taken a break but I felt that his presence in the ABC was important,” said Misbun after meeting among the coaches in Bukit Jalil yesterday.

“It is another platform for Chong Wei to push himself a little more, especially if he were to meet Chinese players.

“Chong Wei won the Asian title in 2006 but he crashed out in the last 16 last year. This time, I hope to see him reaching at least the semi-finals. It will put him in a good stead ahead of the Thomas Cup Finals (in May).”............
Misbun's expecting too much of LCW. ABC's probably his 5th competition in 2 months. In Misbun's times, he probably played 1 tournament in 2 months so he had never experienced the fatigue build up in LCW.
Better for LCW to adopt the attitude of turning up as glitter and just enjoy his badminton.No need to win this one. Win the ones that matter.

LCW should do fine. Don't worry about him.

No need to win this one??? :rolleyes::confused:
Win the ones that matters??? :(

Is the ABC a lesser title than the NGP???

If LCW is talking about fatigue, then why the NGP?? He should have stayed home instead.

From things are looking for LCW at the ABC, the man already got himself an escape route should he not do well in the tournament - exhausted la.

Are there livescore? :)

currently still no news yet.. we will have to wait..hehe

Are there livescore? :)

Misbun's expecting too much of LCW. ABC's probably his 5th competition in 2 months. In Misbun's times, he probably played 1 tournament in 2 months so he had never experienced the fatigue build up in LCW.
Better for LCW to adopt the attitude of turning up as glitter and just enjoy his badminton.No need to win this one. Win the ones that matter.

If you read LCW's intv over at national gp thread, LCW wanted to skip ABC to focus on training for TC finals cos he's 1st player, 1st point for the team is important. Not so much as resting. But he did say whatever Misbun decides is fine with him.
Different coaches/experts have different views.

Exple : Jailani Sidek (in either Harian Metro or Utusan Msia), when asked by the press, had suggested KKK/TBH dont go for tourneys before TC finals but train hard to regain their 'lost' form. Some here would consider it too cowardly a move if Rexy actually did so.

If you read LCW's intv over at national gp thread, LCW wanted to skip ABC to focus on training for TC finals cos he's 1st player, 1st point for the team is important. Not so much as resting. But he did say whatever Misbun decides is fine with him.
Different coaches/experts have different views.

Exple : Jailani Sidek (in either Harian Metro or Utusan Msia), when asked by the press, had suggested KKK/TBH dont go for tourneys before TC finals but train hard to regain their 'lost' form. Some here would consider it too cowardly a move if Rexy actually did so.

One of the ways to improve your mental toughness and overcome "Kia Su" mentality is to go and compete. If you lose...so what? Keep pressing yourself and move forward! BTW, I found out in many occasions when M'sia players said they want to concentrate / focus on training to prepare for a major tournament; the results normally turn out to be devastating!

One of the ways to improve your mental toughness and overcome "Kia Su" mentality is to go and compete. If you lose...so what? Keep pressing yourself and move forward! BTW, I found out in many occasions when M'sia players said they want to concentrate / focus on training to prepare for a major tournament; the results normally turn out to be devastating!

Just interesting different points of view, although it's about different players. Same in the forum too - when LCW went for Korea SS, some said why overtax himself. KKK/TBH wasnt sent for the same Korea SS, some said why didnt go, like your view, say must train "mental toughness".

Rexy said in Jan 2008 he only send KKK/TBH to selected tourneys so as not to overtax them like what happened in 2007, but that's coach view(that has produced results too), not player. Rexy is also the type of coach that ground his players if they dont do well in tourney, like punishment-> say they must stay home & train to overcome their weakness, Misbun doesnt do that, different methods.

The tentative list (from the NST) looks to be very impressive:

Men's Singles
China -- Lin Dan, Bao Chunlai, Chen Jin
Indonesia -- Taufik Hidayat, Sony Dwi Kuncoro, Simon Santoso
Malaysia -- all the senior players
Korea -- Park Sung Hwan, Lee Hyun Il

Men's Doubles
Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan, Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun, Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah, Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae, Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong, Hwang Ji Man/Han Sang Hoon (almost 100% if Jung/Lee are included), Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto, Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo -- that's like the top Asian pairs duking it out with each other :eek:

I am not sure that INA will have TH for ABC....more likely Sony, Simon, Tommy, Alamsyah....may be Andre Tedjono

Good news...LCW will compete in the ABC.This is the news from the star online..

Chong Wei to compete in ABC championships after all
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LCW should do fine. Don't worry about him.
..so he'll participate in the ABC tourney, after all..:cool:

The tentative list (from the NST) looks to be very impressive:

Men's Singles
China -- Lin Dan, Bao Chunlai, Chen Jin
Indonesia -- Taufik Hidayat, Sony Dwi Kuncoro, Simon Santoso
Malaysia -- all the senior players
Korea -- Park Sung Hwan, Lee Hyun Il

Men's Doubles
Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan, Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun, Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah, Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae, Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong, Hwang Ji Man/Han Sang Hoon (almost 100% if Jung/Lee are included), Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto, Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo -- that's like the top Asian pairs duking it out with each other :eek:

Wow, really strong line-up in upcoming Asian meet. All Asian best will participate it?!, something rare to see in this annual continental event.

Three INA MD pairs will try their chance here are Kido/Setiawan, Luluk/Alvent and Joko Riyadi/Hendra A.Gunawan. Unfortunately, Flandy/Candra can't attend ABC because entry limitation also Rian/Yonathan and Bona/Ahsan (KOMPAS, 05 April/08).

I am not sure that INA will have TH for ABC....more likely Sony, Simon, Tommy, Alamsyah....may be Andre Tedjono

TH was the winner last year.....if he skip this one....his WR will definately fall......and SDK will become INA 1st. MS....i think...good for INA TC team..;)

Dear members,

The draw will only be known on 14th April 2008. This is to prevent players to withdraw last minute.
From:
Ayu

TH was the winner last year.....if he skip this one....his WR will definately fall......and SDK will become INA 1st. MS....i think...good for INA TC team..;)
Thats what newspaper reported.......

Dear members,

The draw will only be known on 14th April 2008. This is to prevent players to withdraw last minute.
From:
Ayu
thanks for the information, ayu:)
im waiting very patiently for the draw:)

thanks for the information, ayu:)
im waiting very patiently for the draw:)
Dear George,

No problem George.

From:
Ayu

From the list published at the BAC website:

Men's Doubles
China -- Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo
Malaysia -- Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah, Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong, Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari/Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif
Indonesia -- Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto, Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi, Candra Wijaya/Nova Widianto :confused::eek:
Korea -- Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae, Hwang Ji Man/Lee Jae Jin
Japan -- Tadashi Ohtsuka/Keita Masuda, Shuichi Sakamoto/Shintaro Ikeda, Keishi Kawaguchi/Naoki Kawamae
Chinese-Taipei -- Tsai Chia-Hsin/Hu Chung-Hsien, Fang Chieh-Min/Lee Sheng-Mu
Hong Kong -- Albertus Susanto Njoto/Yohan Hadikusumo Wiratama, Hui Wai Ho/Leung Chun Yiu

Mixed Doubles
China -- Zheng Bo/Gao Ling, He Hanbin/Yu Yang, Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen
Indonesia -- Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir, Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa, Devin Lahardi/Lita Nurlita, Mohd Rijal/Greysia Polii, Tantowi Ahmad/Yulianti, Anggun Nugroho/Endang Nursugianti :eek: (wow...that's like the whole XD team out there!)
Korea -- Han Sang Hoon/Hwang Yu Mi, Lee Yong Dae/Lee Hyo Jung, Hwang Ji Man/Kim Min Jung, Lee Jae Jin/Ha Jung Eun, Jung Jae Sung/Lee Kyung Won (ditto for Team Korea!)
Malaysia -- Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei, Lim Khim Wah/Wong Pei Tty (:confused:), Koo Kien Keat/Goh Liu Ying (:confused:), Mohd Razif Abdul Latif/Chong Sock Chin, Chang Hun Pin/Amelia Alicia Anscelly, Mak Hee Chun/Vivian Ho Kah Mun
Singapore -- Hendri Kurniawan Saputra/Hendra Wijaya
Thailand -- Sudket Prapakamol/Saralee Thoungthongkam, Songphon Anukritayawon/Kunchala Voravichitchaikul, Nitipong Saengsila/Duang-Anong Arunkesorn
Chinese-Taipei -- Chen Hung-Ling/Chou Chia-Chi, Hsieh Yu-Hsin/Chien Yu-Chin, Fang Chieh-Min/Cheng Wen-Hsing, Tsai Chia-Hsin/Cheng Shao-Chieh and 2 more relatively new pairs
Japan -- Tadashi Ohtsuka/Satoko Suetsuna, Keita Matsuda/Miyuki Maeda
Hong Kong -- Yohan Wiratama Hadikusumo/Chau Hoi-Wah, Hui Wai Ho/Koon Wai Chee, Leung Chun Yiu/Mong Kwan Yi

Women's Doubles
China -- Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen, Pan Pan/Tian Qing
Indonesia -- Vita Marissa/Lilyana Natsir, Jo Novita/Greysia Polii, Rani Mundiasti/Endang Nursugianti
Korea -- Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jung, Kim Min Jung/Ha Jung Eun
Malaysia -- Wong Pei-Tty/Chin Ee Hui, Lim Pek Siah/Ooi Yu Hang, Woon Khe Wei/Goh Liu Ying
Japan -- Kumiko Ogura/Reiko Shiota, Satoko Suetsuna/Miyuki Maeda, Aki Akao/Tomomi Matsuda
Chinese-Taipei -- Chien Yu-Chin/Cheng Wen-Hsing and 2 more pairs
Singapore -- Jiang Yanmei/Li Yujia, Yao Lei/Shinta Mulia Sari, Frances Liu Fan/Vanessa Neo Yu Yan
Thailand -- Duang-Anong Arunkesorn/Kunchala Voravichitchaikul, Soratja Chansrisukot/Porntip Buranaprasertsuk
Hong Kong -- Koon Wai Chee/Chau Hoi Wah
India -- Shruti Kurian/Jwala Gutta

wow, an impressive list of names indeed. the fans in JB are in for a treat. looks like the ABC PAW is going to be interesting.

what is the official website for this tournament???

Is Ng Hui Lin injured? It's surprising that both KKK and WPT are playing mixed double.

What a strong lineup:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Men's Doubles
Indonesia - Candra Wijaya/Nova Widianto :confused::eek:

In MD, Indonesia seems to be testing every possible combination :eek:
Does this mean Indonesia is pessimistic about its Olympic MD prospects?


Mixed Doubles
Malaysia - Koo Kien Keat/Goh Liu Ying (:confused:)

Is Malaysia going to banish Koo Kien Keat to XD? :eek:
It seems such an unlikely prospect at this late hour!

Dear members,

The draw will only be known on 14th April 2008. This is to prevent players to withdraw last minute.



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For the first time ever, shuttlers competing in the Asian Badminton Championships (ABC) will not know who their opponents are until the eve of the tournament. Is this a good idea?

Tell us what you think; in this thread here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54092).
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where`s the official website of this tournament???






what is the official website for this tournament???



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The Badminton Confederation Official Website is located here (http://www.badmintonasia.org/).
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Kompas reported today that Kido has not practiced yet since her father'sdeath. Also Lius stressed thatNova/Candra will not be featured in coming Thomas Cup ...He said that Candra has expressed hisinterest to pair withNova for onetournament.

Indeed. I think it's just to keep Candra Wijaya in competitive mode, otherwise, he will not have any competition up to the week of Thomas Cup.

Hey, i am new here.
Just want to ask you guys if LIN DAN going for the Asian Badminton Championship?
Cause in THE STAR, i heard that Lin Dan, Bao Chunlai, Chen Jin and Chen Yu going for the ABC.
Is it true?

This more like a SS caliber events than a typical ABC entries :)

Hey, i am new here.
Just want to ask you guys if LIN DAN going for the Asian Badminton Championship?
Cause in THE STAR, i heard that Lin Dan, Bao Chunlai, Chen Jin and Chen Yu going for the ABC.
Is it true?

This is China's Men's Singles contingent for the ABC:

CHN 1 LIN DAN
CHN 2 BAO CHUNLAI
CHN 3 CHEN JIN
CHN 4 CHEN YU
CHN 5 LU YI
CHN 6 ZHU WEILUN


The other teams are not to be marginalized either with their top singles plus top juniors participating as well:

TPE 1 HSIEH YU HSIN
TPE 2 HSUEH HSUAN YI
TPE 3 LIAO SHENG SHIUN
TPE 4 LEE CHEN YEN
TPE 5 LIU CHIN LUN
TPE 6 SHIH KUEI CHUN

HKG 1 CHAN YAN KIT
HKG 2 NG WEI
HKG 3 WONG WAI HONG

INA 1 HIDAYAT TAUFIK
INA 2 DWI KUNCORO SONY
INA 3 SANTOSO SIMON
INA 4 SUGIARTO TOMMY
INA 5 YUNUS ALAMSYAH
INA 6 ADITYAWARMAN ANDREAS

IND 1 SRIDHAR ANUP
IND 2 ANAND CHETAN
IND 3 PAWAR ANAND
IND 4 KASHYAP P

KOR 1 LEE HYUN II
KOR 2 PARK SUNG HWAN

JPN 1 SATO SHOJI
JPN 2 SASAKI SHO
JPN 3 TAGO KENICHI
JPN 4 TAKEMURA JUN
JPN 5 ENDO HIROYUKI

MAS 1 LEE CHONG WEI
MAS 2 WONG CHOONG HANN
MAS 3 HASHIM MUHAMMAD HAFIZ
MAS 4 YEOH KAY BIN
MAS 5 TAN CHUN SEANG
MAS 6 ABDUL LATIF MOHAMAD ARIF

Looks like it is going to be "hell of a fight" in JB. Must not miss! :)

The Women's Singles participants (the better known teams):

CHN 1 ZHANG NING
CHN 2 XIE XINGFANG
CHN 3 ZHU LIN
CHN 4 LU LAN
CHN 5 JIANG YANJIAO
CHN 6 WANG LIN

TPE 1 CHENG SHAO CHIEH
TPE 2 PAI MIN JIE
TPE 3 CHEN SHIH YING
TPE 4 CHEN HSIAO HUAN
TPE 5 CHIANG PEI HSING
TPE 6 HUANG CHIA HSIN

HKG 1 WANG CHEN
HKG 2 ZHOU MI
HKG 3 YIP PUI YIN
HKG 4 MONG KWAN YI

IND 1 NEHWAL SAINA
IND 2 MURGUNDE TRUPTI
IND 3 MUTATKAR ADITI

INA 1 ADRIANTI FIRDASARI
INA 2 RATNASARI FRANSISCA

JPN 1 HIROSE ERIKO
JPN 2 HIRAYAMA YU
JPN 3 MORI KAORI
JPN 4 IMABEPPU KAORI
JPN 5 GOTO AI

KOR 1 JUN JAE YOUN
KOR 2 HWANG HYE YOUN
KOR 3 LEE YUN HWA

MAS 1 WONG MEW CHOO
MAS 2 WONG JULIA PEI XIAN
MAS 3 CHEAH LYDIA LI YA
MAS 4 KAUR ANITA RAJ
MAS 5 TEE JING YI
MAS 6 HOO VIVIAN KAH MUN

SIN 1 XING AIYING
SIN 2 FU MINGTIAN

THA 1 PONSANA SALAKJIT
THA 2 CHANSRISUKOT SORATJA
THA 3 BURANAPRASERTSUK PORNTIP

VIE 1 LE NGOC NGUYEN NHUNG
VIE 2 LE THI THANH THUY
VIE 3 THAI THI HONG GAM
VIE 4 VU THI TRANG (B)

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Loh...... How come no SIN players for MS? :confused::confused::confused:
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Loh...... How come no SIN players for MS? :confused::confused::confused:
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In fact, Singapore has 4 entries for MS.
Ronald Susilo, Kendrick Lee, Ashton Chen and Derek Wong :)

However, no MD this time.

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Loh...... How come no SIN players for MS? :confused::confused::confused:
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Sorry, I missed my own country's shuttlers! :D

SIN 1 LEE YEN HUI KENDRIK
SIN 2 SUSILO RONALD
SIN 3 CHEN YONGZHAO ASHTON
SIN 4 WONG ZI LIANG DEREK

In MD, Indonesia seems to be testing every possible combination :eek:
Does this mean Indonesia is pessimistic about its Olympic MD prospects?

we are very optimistic to get one gold from MD :D

it's for thomas cup.. they may become 3rd ina Md

This more like a SS caliber events than a typical ABC entries :)

Because this year ABC is last hope for Asian shuttlers to collect some Olympic qualifying ranking points as much as possible before the deadline April 30 comes. And also ABC is the last big tournament to test their performance level before TUC Finals in upcoming May. Yeah, full excitement to watch top-class match next week...

KOR 1 JUN JAE YOUN
KOR 2 HWANG HYE YOUN
:D:D:D:D:D My KOR babes are back in action

No indication of Live Score on Tournament Software for the ABC :(

Kompas reported today that Kido has not practiced yet since her father'sdeath. Also Lius stressed thatNova/Candra will not be featured in coming Thomas Cup ...He said that Candra has expressed hisinterest to pair withNova for onetournament.

I hope Kido's mind is not too badly affected after his father's death ....

Why not let Kido take a break and pair Candra with Hendra Setiawan, I am sure they would be more formidable than Candra/Nova.

Why not let Kido take a break and pair Candra with Hendra Setiawan, I am sure they would be more formidable than Candra/Nova.

That's a good idea :cool:

Thanks LOH.
Yeah, it is a hell of a fight in JB and of course i am going to see the match.It is near my place tho

Did you watch the 2008 Swiss Open MD Final?

IMHO, Markis Kido and Hendra Setiawan lost not because they were outplayed by Lee Yong Dae and Jung Jae Sung but because they couldn't sustain the attack.

Yes, there were flashes of tremendous brilliance from both Setiawan and Kido.
But Kido's smashes seemed to get progressively weaker once the Koreans began lifting them back. Worse, Setiawan appeared to lose his way in front.

With the pressure mounting, their accuracy dipped to an awful low.
Shots that should have been outright winners went out or into the net.

Perhaps, Indonesia needs to try pairing Candra with Setiawan for the ABC ;)

I wish Sigit Budiarto and Hendra Setiawan could be paired.
Sigh! That would be the mother-of-all-lethal-pairs :D

Indonesia -- Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto, Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi, Candra Wijaya/Nova Widianto :confused::eek:


Regarding to this, there's an article in today KOMPAS edition that maybe give explanation to ur confusement.

Flandy Limpele Fokus di Ganda Campuran

Senin, 7 April 2008 | 01:40 WIB Jakarta, Kompas - Flandy Limpele dan Candra Wijaya terdapat dalam daftar pemain yang akan bertanding di Kejuaraan Asia 15-20 April di Malaysia meski keduanya tidak akan berpasangan. Flandy akan fokus bermain di ganda campuran, sementara Candra berpasangan dengan Nova Widianto.
Dalam daftar pemain yang dirilis Konfederasi Bulu Tangkis Asia (BAC), Minggu (6/4), Candra/Nova menjadi salah satu dari tiga ganda putra yang didaftarkan PBSI. Dua ganda lain adalah Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto dan Joko Riyadi/Hendra Aprida Gunawan.
Ketua Bidang Pembinaan Prestasi PBSI Lius Pongoh mengatakan, Candra/Nova didaftarkan untuk mengganti Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan. Ganda peringkat pertama dunia ini tak jadi bermain di Malaysia karena Kido belum berlatih sejak ayahnya meninggal 2 April lalu.
Mengenai Candra yang batal berpasangan dengan Flandy, Lius mengatakan, Flandy akan fokus di ganda campuran bersama Vita Marissa. Targetnya untuk menjegal China agar tidak mendapat jatah tiga ganda campuran di Olimpiade Beijing.
Hingga saat ini Indonesia dan China sama-sama menempatkan dua ganda campuran di Olimpiade. Indonesia diwakili Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir yang berperingkat pertama dunia dan Flandy/Vita (4). Adapun China memiliki Zheng Bo/Gao Ling (2) dan He Hanbin/Yu Yang (3).
China memiliki peluang menambah satu tiket jika Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen (5) bisa menggeser Flandy/Vita karena nilai mereka hanya berselisih 1.420 angka. Untuk itu, di Malaysia nanti Flandy/Vita bertugas mencegah lolosnya tiga pasang China ke Olimpiade. Apalagi, tiga ganda campuran China direncanakan main di Kejuaraan Asia.
Meski akan bermain di Malaysia, Lius mengatakan bahwa Candra/Nova tidak dipastikan akan berpasangan di Piala Thomas. ”Mereka baru akan dicoba. Candra memang pernah mengatakan ingin mencoba bermain dengan Nova dan Nova juga bersedia. Namun, untuk Piala Thomas, ganda ketiganya masih akan dibicarakan lagi,” kata Lius.

i hope to watch some of the action and am craving for the famous 'san lou' bee hoon :)

Oldhand,I supposed post 129 stays on for 5 hours (since it's 5 times as long as a previous one) unless someone translates it?

Oldhand,I supposed post 129 stays on for 5 hours (since it's 5 times as long as a previous one) unless someone translates it?
We can give it time until some kind Indonesian soul wakes up to the translation job :)
Let's say 'by noon tomorrow'.

We can give it time until some kind Indonesian soul wakes up to the translation job :)
Let's say 'by noon tomorrow'.

Oldhand,I supposed post 129 stays on for 5 hours (since it's 5 times as long as a previous one) unless someone translates it?

I'll give it a Msian shot :



Flandy Limpele Fokus di Ganda Campuran

Senin, 7 April 2008 | 01:40 WIB Jakarta, Kompas - Flandy Limpele dan Candra Wijaya terdapat dalam daftar pemain yang akan bertanding di Kejuaraan Asia 15-20 April di Malaysia meski keduanya tidak akan berpasangan. Flandy akan fokus bermain di ganda campuran, sementara Candra berpasangan dengan Nova Widianto.

In ABC, Limpele & Candra are listed in the list of players although they are not pairing up. Limpele will focus on XD & Chandra will pair up with Nova.

Dalam daftar pemain yang dirilis Konfederasi Bulu Tangkis Asia (BAC), Minggu (6/4), Candra/Nova menjadi salah satu dari tiga ganda putra yang didaftarkan PBSI. Dua ganda lain adalah Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto dan Joko Riyadi/Hendra Aprida Gunawan.

Chandra/Nova will be one of the MD along with Luluk/Alvent & Joko/Hendra.

Ketua Bidang Pembinaan Prestasi PBSI Lius Pongoh mengatakan, Candra/Nova didaftarkan untuk mengganti Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan. Ganda peringkat pertama dunia ini tak jadi bermain di Malaysia karena Kido belum berlatih sejak ayahnya meninggal 2 April lalu.

PBSI's Luis Pongoh said Chandra/Nova's names have been submitted to replace Kido/Setiawan. The World No 1 MD will not play in Msia cos Kido have not been training since his father passed away on 2 April.

Mengenai Candra yang batal berpasangan dengan Flandy, Lius mengatakan, Flandy akan fokus di ganda campuran bersama Vita Marissa. Targetnya untuk menjegal China agar tidak mendapat jatah tiga ganda campuran di Olimpiade Beijing.
On why Chandra is not pairing with Limpele, Luis said Limpele will focus on XD With Marissa. The target is stop China from featuring 3 XD pairs in OG in Beijing.

Hingga saat ini Indonesia dan China sama-sama menempatkan dua ganda campuran di Olimpiade. Indonesia diwakili Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir yang berperingkat pertama dunia dan Flandy/Vita (4). Adapun China memiliki Zheng Bo/Gao Ling (2) dan He Hanbin/Yu Yang (3).

China memiliki peluang menambah satu tiket jika Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen (5) bisa menggeser Flandy/Vita karena nilai mereka hanya berselisih 1.420 angka. Untuk itu, di Malaysia nanti Flandy/Vita bertugas mencegah lolosnya tiga pasang China ke Olimpiade. Apalagi, tiga ganda campuran China direncanakan main di Kejuaraan Asia.

At this point, Indonesia & China both have 2 XD pairs for OG. Indonesia = Nova/Lilyana, Limpele/Marissa. China = Zheng Bo/Gao Ling, He Hanbin/Yu Yang. China has a chance to get one more XD ticket if Xie/Zhang Yawen(no 5) are able topple Limpele/Marissa cos their ranking pts difference is only 1,420. Therefore, Flandy/Vita are given the task to avoid 3 China XD pairs in OG. Plus, all 3 China XD pairs will be competing in ABC.

Meski akan bermain di Malaysia, Lius mengatakan bahwa Candra/Nova tidak dipastikan akan berpasangan di Piala Thomas. ”Mereka baru akan dicoba. Candra memang pernah mengatakan ingin mencoba bermain dengan Nova dan Nova juga bersedia. Namun, untuk Piala Thomas, ganda ketiganya masih akan dibicarakan lagi,” kata Lius.

Luis said Chandra/Nova are not confirmed to be pairing up for TC. "They are just paired for trial basis. Chandra did say he wants to try to play with Nova & Nova is ready. But the 3rd MD pair are still in discussion."

I'll give it a Msian shot :

On why Chandra is not pairing with Limpele, Luis said Limpele will focus on XD With Marissa. The target is stop China from featuring 3 XD pairs in OG in Beijing.



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Thank you for the translation eaglehelang. :):):)

It would be a great match to watch if Limpele/Marissa are playing against Xie/Zhang.
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We can give it time until some kind Indonesian soul wakes up to the translation job :)
Let's say 'by noon tomorrow'.
Some of us has retired....hehe...promise to do it next time.......:D:D:D

This ABC would be nice to watch. Infact Among all the ABC's i think this one is worth going for.

The timing is such that this ABC has the quality of a SS tournament (minus the Euros). With out the OG coming up in a few months, it would be the same lacklustre affair it's been the last few years. You lucky people going to watch it!!

Yeah... those lucky fella. I will not be around. :(

Yeah... those lucky fella. I will not be around. :(

why wont u be?? haha.. i get to go, n u don!! haha :D

Hey, lets make a guess!
Who is going to win ABC?

MS: Lin Dan
MD: KKK&TBH

haha. I hope KKK & TBH can win this tournament cause if they don't, many people will "BOO" them.

why wont u be?? haha.. i get to go, n u don!! haha :D

Ha ha, before Thomas Cup, there's ABC exicitement. Enjoy yaselves :D

I'll give it a Msian shot :

Nice shot..excellent :D


Luis said Chandra/Nova are not confirmed to be pairing up for TC. "They are just paired for trial basis. Chandra did say he wants to try to play with Nova & Nova is ready. But the 3rd MD pair are still in discussion."

It's actually Lius, not Luis :cool:

eaglehelang, thanks a ton for the translation!
Now we know who to badger the next time this needs to be done :p

The timing is such that this ABC has the quality of a SS tournament (minus the Euros). With out the OG coming up in a few months, it would be the same lacklustre affair it's been the last few years. You lucky people going to watch it!!

Yes, but no top European players in sight, especially the Danes both men and women, unfortunately! :rolleyes:

But it is good enough for us so near to the venue! :)

Yes, but no top European players in sight, especially the Danes both men and women, unfortunately! :rolleyes:

But it is good enough for us so near to the venue! :)

Me envious. We're expecting your daily reports;):D

Me envious. We're expecting your daily reports;):D

You owed us the pictorial report of your recent adventures! :)

You owed us the pictorial report of your recent adventures! :)

Not bad memory for an Uncle :D:D:D

[quote=fd16n;840962]Mengenai Candra yang batal berpasangan dengan Flandy, Lius mengatakan, Flandy akan fokus di ganda campuran bersama Vita Marissa. Targetnya untuk menjegal China agar tidak mendapat jatah tiga ganda campuran di Olimpiade Beijing.
On why Chandra is not pairing with Limpele, Luis said Limpele will focus on XD With Marissa. The target is stop China from featuring 3 XD pairs in OG in Beijing.

if this is not match fixing i don't know what is!

Not bad memory for an Uncle :D:D:D

How do you think the Uncle got to be a PAW champion ......:D:D:D

Kido/Hendra and...CY/FHF are not coming....?

In this coming ABC.......i think all the Chn MSs will definately 'give way' to CJ........if they would meet .........and Chn have decided to send a total of 6 Ms ..wow!.........for this mission.........hehehehehe..

CJ have to enter Final to confirm his Olympic ticket......interesting..

It's actually Lius, not Luis :cool:

Sori lah, type too fast, wrong letter 1st :D. Next time you do, he he he.

I'll give it a Msian shot :

Luis said Chandra/Nova are not confirmed to be pairing up for TC. "They are just paired for trial basis. Chandra did say he wants to try to play with Nova & Nova is ready. But the 3rd MD pair are still in discussion."


And while I'm at it, last line sound better as : "We are still discussing who is the 3rd MD pair for TC Finals, it has not been decided yet."
The earlier was direct translation, sounds weird when I read it again.

eaglehelang, thanks a ton for the translation!
Now we know who to badger the next time this needs to be done :p

Hey, me already fly, fly & do a lot lah. Give the rest a chance to do some mah, now many articles from malay press I also lazy to post, have to translate.

[quote=fd16n;840962]Mengenai Candra yang batal berpasangan dengan Flandy, Lius mengatakan, Flandy akan fokus di ganda campuran bersama Vita Marissa. Targetnya untuk menjegal China agar tidak mendapat jatah tiga ganda campuran di Olimpiade Beijing.
On why Chandra is not pairing with Limpele, Luis said Limpele will focus on XD With Marissa. The target is stop China from featuring 3 XD pairs in OG in Beijing.

if this is not match fixing i don't know what is!

LOL, I assume you are joking ? Limpele/Marissa are no 4, they must do well in ABC so that Xie/Zhang Yawen Cannot move up from no 5 to no 4 in rankings. And apparrently China is sending all 3 XD pairs to ABC.

In this coming ABC.......i think all the Chn MSs will definately 'give way' to CJ........if they would meet .........and Chn have decided to send a total of 6 Ms ..wow!.........for this mission.........hehehehehe..

CJ have to enter Final to confirm his Olympic ticket......interesting..

Kah, kah, Jason, careful, some will say you're speculating.
And no, Fu/Cai and Kido/Setiawan not going. Like the article said, Kido's father just passed away, he hasnt been in training. FU/Cai dunno why, didnt read anywhere in the press about the official reason.

On why Chandra is not pairing with Limpele, Luis said Limpele will focus on XD With Marissa. The target is stop China from featuring 3 XD pairs in OG in Beijing.

if this is not match fixing i don't know what is!



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Hi AlanY,

We cannot call wanting to beat your opponents 'match fixing', can we? :confused:

All participants should play positively; to play to win.

'Match fixing' occurs when not wanting to beat your opponents or your teammates; to play to lose.

:):):)
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[quote=fd16n;840962]Mengenai Candra yang batal berpasangan dengan Flandy, Lius mengatakan, Flandy akan fokus di ganda campuran bersama Vita Marissa. Targetnya untuk menjegal China agar tidak mendapat jatah tiga ganda campuran di Olimpiade Beijing.
On why Chandra is not pairing with Limpele, Luis said Limpele will focus on XD With Marissa. The target is stop China from featuring 3 XD pairs in OG in Beijing.

if this is not match fixing i don't know what is!

What on earth are you smoking? :confused:

if this is not match fixing i don't know what is!

How? It's not like they're predetermining the outcome of a game, they actually have to WORK if they want to achieve their goal. They can't just say "Oh yep alright, you aren't going to the Olympics because we said so..."...

And it's perfectly within the rules to WANT a country to have less pairs :p.

And it's perfectly within the rules to WANT a country to have less pairs :p.

Indeed...China's XD pairs go to Johor with a mission too...to ensure that Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen DO QUALIFY for the Olympics!

It will be an interesting tactical battle between the coaches.

Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir and Zheng Bo/Gao Ling will be seeded 1st and 2nd, while He Hanbin/Yu Yang and Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa will be seeded 3rd and 4th for sure.

So, Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen will HAVE TO PLAY against either of these 4 pairs in the QF :cool:

Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen HAVE TO WIN this championships in order to qualify for the Olympics :o In the meantime, they have to hope that Flandy/Vita DO NOT PROGRESS to the Final.

It will be an interesting 5-days.....

Indeed...China's XD pairs go to Johor with a mission too...to ensure that Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen DO QUALIFY for the Olympics!

It will be an interesting tactical battle between the coaches.

Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir and Zheng Bo/Gao Ling will be seeded 1st and 2nd, while He Hanbin/Yu Yang and Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa will be seeded 3rd and 4th for sure.

So, Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen will HAVE TO PLAY against either of these 4 pairs in the QF :cool:

Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen HAVE TO WIN this championships in order to qualify for the Olympics :o In the meantime, they have to hope that Flandy/Vita DO NOT PROGRESS to the Final.

It will be an interesting 5-days.....

Will KOR send in LYD/LHJ ? What about Thai's pair of Sudkeet/Saralee? Both are more than capable of taking out the top 4/5.

Will KOR send in LYD/LHJ ?

What about Thai's pair of Sudkeet/Saralee?

Both are more than capable of taking out the top 4/5.



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LYD will partner JJS as KOR 1st MD. And LJJ will partner HJM as KOR 2nd MD.

Sudket will partner Saralee as THA 1st XD.

Other pairs can be found at this link: http://www.badmintonasia.org/
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LYD will partner JJS as KOR 1st MD. And LJJ will partner HJM as KOR 2nd MD.

Sudket will partner Saralee as THA 1st XD.

Other pairs can be found at this link: http://www.badmintonasia.org/
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I was referring to Lee Yong Dae/Lee Hyo Jung for the MXD :).
Thanks for the link, seemed like both KOR and Thai's pair will be there.

I was referring to Lee Yong Dae/Lee Hyo Jung for the MXD :).
Thanks for the link, seemed like both KOR and Thai's pair will be there.

ALL the top Asian XD pairs will be there, which make it a really competitive field!

loh and jessica, make sure u all take some pictures and some group pics for us ya??:)

From my own calculations, there could be some mistakes :D

Top 8 Seeds for the XD event:
[1] Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir
[2] Zheng Bo/Gao Ling
[3] He Hanbin/Yu Yang
[4] Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa
[5] Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen
[6] Sudket Prapakamol/Saralee Thoungthongkam
[7] Han Sang Hoon/Hwang Yu Mi
[8] Lee Yong Dae/Lee Hyo Jung

Top 8 seeds for MS event:
[1] Lin Dan
[2] Lee Chong Wei
[3] Bao Chunlai
[4] Chen Jin
[5] Taufik Hidayat
[6] Sony Dwi Kuncoro
[7] Boonsak Ponsana
[8] Lee Hyun Il

Top 8 seeds for the MD event:
[1] Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah
[2] Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae
[3] Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong
[4] Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto
[5] Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo
[6] Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man
[7] Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari/Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif
[8] Shuichi Sakamoto/Shintaro Ikeda

Top 8 seeds for WS event:
[1] Xie Xingfang
[2] Zhang Ning
[3] Lu Lan
[4] Zhu Lin
[5] Wang Chen
[6] Wong Mew Choo
[7] Zhou Mi
[8] Jun Jae Youn

Top 8 seeds for the WD event:
[1] Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen
[2] Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jung
[3] Chien Yu-Chin/Cheng Wen-Hsing
[4] Kumiko Ogura/Reiko Shiota
[5] Satoko Suetsuna/Miyuki Maeda
[6] Vita Marissa/Lilyana Natsir
[7] Wong Pei Tty/Chin Ee Hui
[8] Jiang Yanmei/Li Yujia

loh and jessica, make sure u all take some pictures and some group pics for us ya??:)
Hmm..I will try my best to take picture with you idol..:rolleyes::rolleyes:

loh and jessica, make sure u all take some pictures and some group pics for us ya??:)

George, come down south. at least over the weekend so that we can take a group pic together! :)

hmm, loh so sorry that i cant come over there:(
i also wish i will be there too:(

The stadium is going to be full if Malaysia enter semis and final as it will be the last ABC tournament held in Malaysia. My Famemas supporter club will be there to lead the supporters. We had done it last year although only 3 of us we are able to make the stadium came alive. I hope that many Malaysia supporters will be there in the stadium. Let's rock the stadium. Famemas members will be around 30-40 peoples to cheer the Malaysia team.

Love,
Ayu

Loh and Yong, are you guys staying overnight or planning day trip on Saturday?

Me, I might be going, semis and final only.

Loh and Yong, are you guys staying overnight or planning day trip on Saturday?

Me, I might be going, semis and final only.

I leave it to HC and hope that he is agreeable to staying overnight for the SF. We also plan to watch the last two days.

Mr Yong, where are you? ;)

in case, there is no live score...we need BC members to report to us for score....for sake of PAW game...

in case, there is no live score...we need BC members to report to us for score....for sake of PAW game...

Sure got want right? Semi & Finals for sure RTM & Astro will broadcast, np. BWF headquarters is in Msia, would be embarassing if no livescore.

Astro will be broadcasting this tournament from the quater final onwards:):D
yess!

From my own calculations, there could be some mistakes :D

Top 8 Seeds for the XD event:
[1] Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir
[2] Zheng Bo/Gao Ling
[3] He Hanbin/Yu Yang
[4] Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa
[5] Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen
[6] Sudket Prapakamol/Saralee Thoungthongkam
[7] Han Sang Hoon/Hwang Yu Mi
[8] Lee Yong Dae/Lee Hyo Jung

Top 8 seeds for MS event:
[1] Lin Dan
[2] Lee Chong Wei
[3] Bao Chunlai
[4] Chen Jin
[5] Taufik Hidayat
[6] Sony Dwi Kuncoro
[7] Boonsak Ponsana
[8] Lee Hyun Il

Top 8 seeds for the MD event:
[1] Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah
[2] Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae
[3] Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong
[4] Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto
[5] Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo
[6] Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man
[7] Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari/Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif
[8] Shuichi Sakamoto/Shintaro Ikeda

Top 8 seeds for WS event:
[1] Xie Xingfang
[2] Zhang Ning
[3] Lu Lan
[4] Zhu Lin
[5] Wang Chen
[6] Wong Mew Choo
[7] Zhou Mi
[8] Jun Jae Youn

Top 8 seeds for the WD event:
[1] Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen
[2] Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jung
[3] Chien Yu-Chin/Cheng Wen-Hsing
[4] Kumiko Ogura/Reiko Shiota
[5] Satoko Suetsuna/Miyuki Maeda
[6] Vita Marissa/Lilyana Natsir
[7] Wong Pei Tty/Chin Ee Hui
[8] Jiang Yanmei/Li Yujia

the seeding is based on 3 April,is before India Open one,so the japan 2nd wd is seed 7,while indonesian and malaysian each is seed 5 and seed 6.

Ratio of non-CHN MS to CHN MS seeds is 5:3. Non-CHN MS should take this one.

can i know is stadium bandaraya JB near Larkin bus station?

in case, there is no live score...we need BC members to report to us for score....for sake of PAW game...

As mentioned earlier, there's no live score or even indication that this tournament is on tournamentsoftware.com. Hopefully it'll change :(

The stadium is going to be full if Malaysia enter semis and final as it will be the last ABC tournament held in Malaysia. My Famemas supporter club will be there to lead the supporters. We had done it last year although only 3 of us we are able to make the stadium came alive. I hope that many Malaysia supporters will be there in the stadium. Let's rock the stadium.

Famemas members will be around 30-40 peoples to cheer the Malaysia team.



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Famemas members growing from 3 to 30-40 people in a year... that's incredible !!!

Ayu, you lead them to have fun; and ROCK the stadium. :D:D:D
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As mentioned earlier, there's no live score or even indication that this tournament is on tournamentsoftware.com. Hopefully it'll change :(
So we have a right to ask BC members to attend first 2 rounds to report the scores back to us..........:D

Ratio of non-CHN MS to CHN MS seeds is 5:3. Non-CHN MS should take this one.

What kind of logic is this?:confused:

Then in that case, which country's player will win:rolleyes:... Consider,

Non-Mas MS to Mas MS seeds is 7:1 so Non-Mas MS should win
Non-Ina MS to Ina MS seeds is 6:2 so Non-Ina MS should win
Non-Kor MS to Kor MS seeds is 7:1 so Non-Kor MS should win
Non-Tha MS to Tha MS sees is 7:1 so Non-Tha MS should win
While Non-Chn MS to Chn MS is 5:3?

So nobody stands a chance according to your logic...

What kind of logic is this?:confused:

Then in that case, which country's player will win:rolleyes:... Consider,

Non-Mas MS to Mas MS seeds is 7:1 so Non-Mas MS should win
Non-Ina MS to Ina MS seeds is 6:2 so Non-Ina MS should win
Non-Kor MS to Kor MS seeds is 7:1 so Non-Kor MS should win
Non-Tha MS to Tha MS sees is 7:1 so Non-Tha MS should win
While Non-Chn MS to Chn MS is 5:3?

So nobody stands a chance according to your logic...

It is very funny you put it this way.

From my own calculations, there could be some mistakes :D
...
Top 8 seeds for MS event:
[1] Lin Dan
[2] Lee Chong Wei
[3] Bao Chunlai
[4] Chen Jin
[5] Taufik Hidayat
[6] Sony Dwi Kuncoro
[7] Boonsak Ponsana
[8] Lee Hyun Il
...
Top 8 seeds for WS event:
[1] Xie Xingfang
[2] Zhang Ning
[3] Lu Lan
[4] Zhu Lin
[5] Wang Chen
[6] Wong Mew Choo
[7] Zhou Mi
[8] Jun Jae Youn
...


Very impressive lineup for MS and WS matches. All the best Asian players are there, rarely so complete.

Ratio of non-CHN MS to CHN MS seeds is 5:3. Non-CHN MS should take this one.

I'd like to hear your reasoning. As far as I can tell, everyone has a fair chance to the title, very hard to predict.

From my own calculations, there could be some mistakes :D

Top 8 seeds for MS event:
[1] Lin Dan
[2] Lee Chong Wei
[3] Bao Chunlai
[4] Chen Jin
[5] Taufik Hidayat
[6] Sony Dwi Kuncoro
[7] Boonsak Ponsana
[8] Lee Hyun Il

Top 8 seeds for WS event:
[1] Xie Xingfang
[2] Zhang Ning
[3] Lu Lan
[4] Zhu Lin
[5] Wang Chen
[6] Wong Mew Choo
[7] Zhou Mi
[8] Jun Jae Youn


Your calculations are almost exactly correct, badMania. According to BAC website about M/Q report :

Top 16 MS seeding :

1 -- Lin Dan
2 -- Lee Chong Wei
3/4 -- Bao Chunlai ; Chen Jin
5/8 -- Taufik Hidayat ; Sony Dwi Kuncoro ; Lee Hyun Il ; Park Sung Hwan
9/16 -- Chen Yu ; Boonsak Ponsana ; Simon Santoso ; Wong Choong Han ; Ronald Susilo ; Shoji Sato ; Chan Yan Kit ; Ng Wei

Top 8 WS seeding :

1 -- Xie Xingfang
2 -- Zhang Ning
3/4 -- Lu Lan ; Wang Chen
5/8 -- Zhu Lin ; Wong Mew Choo ; Yip Pui Yin ; Eriko Hirose

Several withdrawals of WS disclipine so far are KOR players (Jun Jae Youn, Hwang Hye Youn and Lee Yun Hwa), HKG (Zhou Mi) and INA shuttlers (Adrianti Firdasari, Fransisca Ratnasari).

From my own calculations, there could be some mistakes :D

Top 8 Seeds for the XD event:
[1] Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir
[2] Zheng Bo/Gao Ling
[3] He Hanbin/Yu Yang
[4] Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa
[5] Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen
[6] Sudket Prapakamol/Saralee Thoungthongkam
[7] Han Sang Hoon/Hwang Yu Mi
[8] Lee Yong Dae/Lee Hyo Jung

Top 8 seeds for the MD event:
[1] Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah
[2] Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae
[3] Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong
[4] Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto
[5] Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo
[6] Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man
[7] Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari/Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif
[8] Shuichi Sakamoto/Shintaro Ikeda


The doubles M/Q report :

- Top 8 XD seeding list is perfectly same with above post

- Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man will not attend ABC but there's new KOR pair here, Lee Jae Jin/Choi Min Ho. So 6th - 8th position become :

6) Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Zakry/Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif
7) Shuichi Sakamoto/Shintero Ikeda
8) Tadashi Ohtsuka/Keita Masuda

- Japanese WD pair Ogura/Shiota seems pulled out of the Asian meet and this disclipine only has top-5 seeding due to lack of participants?!
Top 5 WD seeding :

1) Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen
2) Lee Hyo Jung/Lee Kyung Won
3) Chien Yu Chin/Cheng Wen Hsing
4) Vita Marissa/Lilyana Natsir
5) Wong Pei Tty/Chin Eei Hui

can i know is stadium bandaraya JB near Larkin bus station?
I believe it's at Jalan Tebrau, next to the Traffic Police HQ.Very far from Larkin.There are 2 hotels across the road:New York Hotel and Hotel Selesa.

Very impressive lineup for MS and WS matches. All the best Asian players are there, rarely so complete.



I'd like to hear your reasoning. As far as I can tell, everyone has a fair chance to the title, very hard to predict.
One thing that impresses me most about you, Birdwood, is your good manners, which reflects very well on your parents.People with naturally good manners are ,sadly,a diminishing species.So you stand out in a special but positive way.I don't see why I need to rationalise what i visualise but for you, I will oblige.
The reason why I split MS (and WS) into CHN and non-CHN is because CHN MS are big enough as a team to help the chosen CHN MS win in individual events.(Whereas non-CHN do not actually work as a group to favour one non-CHN player to win, so that's just a shorthand.)
Based on seedings, one half will have 2 CHN MS which will have a 50% chance of making the final;the other half will have 1 CHN MS which has a 25% chance of making the same.This ABC is actually tougher for CHN MS than the SS. If you check performance over the last year, indications are CHN MS has a distinct advantage over (top)European MS but none over (top) Asian(non-CHN) MS. So Asian (nC)MS has a good chance of upsetting CHN MS compared to European MS's odd chance.So the chance of LYB deciding one SF outcome is less than in a SS.
When I said 'should', it means the possibility of non-CHN MS winning it is MORE rather than less. And there's no guarantee.(It also assumes that the other 3 CHN MS check out early.)
If the ratio were 5:3 in favour of CHN like it used to be,when CH was playing, then I would say,'CHN sure win.Can guarantee.'

anyone going to watch ABC in JB over the weekend? Looking for kakis to travel from SG to JB. Uncle Loh, keen to go JB to take photo with Taufik? :D

just PM me your name and contact...

o... have the player arrive in JOhOR.? besides that when will the qualifying draw released?

Several withdrawals of WS disclipine so far are KOR players (Jun Jae Youn, Hwang Hye Youn and Lee Yun Hwa)
:crying:OH NO ! Why :rolleyes::confused::crying:

- Japanese WD pair Ogura/Shiota seems pulled out of the Asian meet and this disclipine only has top-5 seeding due to lack of participants?!

OH NO , NOT AGAIN :o :crying: :crying: :crying:

Very impressive lineup for MS and WS matches. All the best Asian players are there, rarely so complete.

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That's why you can 'read' abt BCers from Johor & our neighbour down south, Spore, very eagerly awaiting this tourney. This year more exciting than previous years as it's the last tourney for OG qualifications

Hmm..I will try my best to take picture with you idol..:rolleyes::rolleyes:
plus, dont forget to take pics with our famous uncle loh:D:p:rolleyes:

:crying:OH NO ! Why :rolleyes::confused::crying:

OH NO , NOT AGAIN :o :crying: :crying: :crying:
..Sam, why the disappointment and crying??:confused:..I thought you're going to see them next month during the Thomas & Uber Cup??.....Or, is it because you (and madbad) won't be able to PAW them????...:rolleyes: ;)

where can we get the ticket???
i hve tried to search da net
but there's nothing bout the ticket counter...
pls anyone tell me where to get the ticket
i wan to be there n take picture with KKK

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The reason why I split MS (and WS) into CHN and non-CHN is because CHN MS are big enough as a team to help the chosen CHN MS win in individual events.(Whereas non-CHN do not actually work as a group to favour one non-CHN player to win, so that's just a shorthand.)
Based on seedings, one half will have 2 CHN MS which will have a 50% chance of making the final;the other half will have 1 CHN MS which has a 25% chance of making the same.This ABC is actually tougher for CHN MS than the SS. If you check performance over the last year, indications are CHN MS has a distinct advantage over (top)European MS but none over (top) Asian(non-CHN) MS. So Asian (nC)MS has a good chance of upsetting CHN MS compared to European MS's odd chance.So the chance of LYB deciding one SF outcome is less than in a SS.
When I said 'should', it means the possibility of non-CHN MS winning it is MORE rather than less. And there's no guarantee.(It also assumes that the other 3 CHN MS check out early.)
If the ratio were 5:3 in favour of CHN like it used to be,when CH was playing, then I would say,'CHN sure win.Can guarantee.'

Thanks for kindly explaining it. Always enjoyed your posts, and it’s reassuring to hear the reasons since I’m rather naive in baddy tourney. I guess it’s a simple math with 5 non-Chn vs 3 Chn, in which everyone would be more for himself than a team effort all the way to the final :rolleyes:

As for the manner, I just don’t want to be left behind because most BCers are centrist with distinguished records of politeness. Besides, when in the Uncle category (age-wise), what choices one has :confused::D

btw: I saw posts that LD used to skip MO due to weather or something, but LD is going to be at ABC. Does anyone know if LD went to previous ABC or he changed his mind this time?

That's why you can 'read' abt BCers from Johor & our neighbour down south, Spore, very eagerly awaiting this tourney. This year more exciting than previous years as it's the last tourney for OG qualifications

I looked on the map, it did not seem to be far from KL. Is it a flying distance for Eagle :confused:

pjswift,thx for ur info! do u know hw long to reach da stadium from Larkin by taxi ?so ru going to ABC?

I looked on the map, it did not seem to be far from KL. Is it a flying distance for Eagle :confused:

woah, kl is about 300km away from johor.
that'd be one tired eagle!

I looked on the map, it did not seem to be far from KL. Is it a flying distance for Eagle :confused:
It is much closer from Singapore...too bad that I have Trade show..;):(

Loh and Yong, are you guys staying overnight or planning day trip on Saturday?

Me, I might be going, semis and final only.
:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
I wish I was there:crying::crying::crying::crying:
I hope my dream come thru

What kind of logic is this?:confused:

Then in that case, which country's player will win:rolleyes:... Consider,

Non-Mas MS to Mas MS seeds is 7:1 so Non-Mas MS should win
Non-Ina MS to Ina MS seeds is 6:2 so Non-Ina MS should win
Non-Kor MS to Kor MS seeds is 7:1 so Non-Kor MS should win
Non-Tha MS to Tha MS sees is 7:1 so Non-Tha MS should win
While Non-Chn MS to Chn MS is 5:3?

So nobody stands a chance according to your logic...

Yes, I agree, the analysis of PJSWIFT is getting a bit extreme unless the non-Chinese all gang up to conspire ... Boy, now we have Chinese vs non-Chinese issue. I do agree Chinese sending such a big team in man singles is to protect Chen Jin in 4th position.

Kak Ayu..Wanna meet up..I will be there for sure...I think i will go from the first round if there are some nice matches.
:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::c rying::crying::crying:
Pls can anyone know if there will be live streaming
Many thanks 2 anyone who knows

I think the official hotel is New York hotel which is very near to the stadium.The tickets can get in the stadium when the date is nearer.Hope to see you there.:)
:eek::eek::eek::(:(:(:confused::confused::confused :
Are u dead serious?Is there any kampong hotel

:):)jb again....however it is a good news 4 me coz i live in Jb.
:cool::cool::cool: Senai or Kulai:):)

Ayu, walk across the causeway lah, maybe faster and good exercise too. :D
:D:D:D:D:D
Frm woodlands must be better What about swimming?I hope there is no sharks in the water,ISA PERCAUTION:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

No one knowledgeable about the place to bring me around. Actually I've never stayed overnight in JB. Most times, its a day trip.

Now tell us more about some interesting places around City Stadium, apart from Plaza Pelangi - food, sights, recreation, etc. :D
DON'T 4GET 2 VISIT kota tinggi falls:cool::cool:

:eek:Heard about Danga Bay. How far is it from NY Hotel. Any public transport to go there? :)
I was not aware that Singapore was 2 far frm JB:cool::cool::D:D

What is Misbun's strategy for sending LCW to participate in ABC? As we all know, ThomasCup and OG08 are around the corner, and most importantly, LCW has already secured No.2 spot. Why Misbun decided to send LCW for ABC? Shouldnt LCW be given good rest and focus on more impt tourneys? :rolleyes:
:cool: I totally agree with u LCW should take a break I hope he does not pick up an injury that would really be disasterous:):)

The tentative list (from the NST) looks to be very impressive:

Men's Singles
China -- Lin Dan, Bao Chunlai, Chen Jin
Indonesia -- Taufik Hidayat, Sony Dwi Kuncoro, Simon Santoso
Malaysia -- all the senior players
Korea -- Park Sung Hwan, Lee Hyun Il

Men's Doubles
Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan, Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun, Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah, Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae, Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong, Hwang Ji Man/Han Sang Hoon (almost 100% if Jung/Lee are included), Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto, Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo -- that's like the top Asian pairs duking it out with each other :eek:
:):cool::cool: It will be the titans of badminton going at each other

woah, kl is about 300km away from johor.
that'd be one tired eagle!

It's 180 miles. Take three hours by car, not bad. Eagle can also car-pool with others, saving energy for later ;)

It is much closer from Singapore...too bad that I have Trade show..;):(

You have other chances which some of us can only dream of :rolleyes:

It's 180 miles. Take three hours by car, not bad. Eagle can also car-pool with others, saving energy for later ;)



You have other chances which some of us can only dream of :rolleyes:
:mad: but I have no chance this time...the trade show starts at April 14 and meetings until April 19...:( at least...

Kido/Hendra and...CY/FHF are not coming....?
:crying::crying::crying: Is this reliable info?

Actually there are still several hotels near the stadium beside New York hotel but of course New York hotel is the nearest hotel and if you all want to shopping can also go to Plaza Pelangi which is very near to the stadium.


How about Mutiara Hotel, Jessica? Is it still in walking distance from the stadium? Seem close enough if we look on the map. Thank you before

Just found out that the reason why Zhou Mi withdrew as she could not represent Hongkong to Olympic naymore so Hong Kong will be represented by Wang Cehn and Yip Pui Yin.

How about Mutiara Hotel, Jessica? Is it still in walking distance from the stadium? Seem close enough if we look on the map. Thank you before
Hmm..The Mutiara Hotel is actually quite far from the stadium.If you want to walk to the stadium from Mutiara Hotel,it will be vey tiring..So you can go by taxi or car..:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Just found out that the reason why Zhou Mi withdrew as she could not represent Hongkong to Olympic anymore so Hong Kong will be represented by Wang Cehn and Yip Pui Yin.



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Why couldn't Zhou Mi be representing Hong Kong?... I thought she could do so, after a 2 years' stay in Hong Kong.
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Why couldn't Zhou Mi be representing Hong Kong?... I thought she could do so, after a 2 year stay in Hong Kong.
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Her application for special resolution was rejected by IOC....look at the thread of Olympic

woah, kl is about 300km away from johor.
that'd be one tired eagle!

I looked on the map, it did not seem to be far from KL. Is it a flying distance for Eagle :confused:

It's 180 miles. Take three hours by car, not bad. Eagle can also car-pool with others, saving energy for later ;)



Look at my intro thread again, my friend, I'm not from KL.;):D Flying for an eagle, no sweat wan, just flap-flap go....It's not the distance... still need a couple hundred $$$ for hotel stay, that's out of budget.

:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::c rying::crying::crying:
Pls can anyone know if there will be live streaming
Many thanks 2 anyone who knows

Please check again next week, when the tv schedule is out. RTM will be showing I think, they do every year, RTM you can watch online.


:crying::crying::crying: Is this reliable info?

YES, it was reported in every major newspaper & the M& Q report, Kido/Setiawan(Kido's dad just passed away) & Fu/Cai not going.

REIKO WITHDREW!!!!!!!!!!! :crying: i wanna meet her!!!!! :(

Look at my intro thread again, my friend, I'm not from KL.;):D ...


Sorry not doing well with Malaysia geography. You are in Bukit Baru, Melaka state, which is even closer to Johore. I hope I got it right this time :)

JB is at the southernmost tip of the Malaysian peninsula with Singapore just a causeway (bridge) away to the south.

If I travel from Singapore towards the northern part of Malaysia, I will arrive at (in order of distance nearer Singapore):

Johor (Johor Bahru)
Melaka (Malacca),
Negeri Sembilan (Seremban)
Selangor (Kuala Lumpur)
Perak (Ipoh)
Penang (George Town)
Kedah (Alor Setar)
Perlis (Kangar)

Perak, Perlis and Kedah share a common border with southern Thailand.

As for badminton, the popular Malaysian venues are JB, KL and Alor Setar.

The eastern part of the peninsula consists of the bigger states of Pahang (Kuantan & Cameron Highlands), Terengganu (Kuala Terengganu) and Kelantan (Kota Bahru) I think abedeng hails from Kelantan and azabaz_ipoh is from Ipoh. :)

except abedeng hails from kelantan but lives in kuala lumpur now whereas i'm from ipoh and lives in ipoh too :D

Hey, does anyone know the TICKETING PRICE and where to GET?
Can i get a season pass or VIP pass :P

If got please reply.....URGENT :D

btw: I saw posts that LD used to skip MO due to weather or something, but LD is going to be at ABC. Does anyone know if LD went to previous ABC or he changed his mind this time?

according to a few of the 'officals' the main reason for LYB sending the full MS team is to help CJ to remain at world No 4 thus qualify for the 3rd MS for olympics. can't see any other reason rather than this, can you?

Sorry not doing well with Malaysia geography. You are in Bukit Baru, Melaka state, which is even closer to Johore. I hope I got it right this time :)

Just joking lah :D. Accompany you watch mah, just I'll be flying in front of tv, you watch RTM or GD Sports/CCTV 5 online

according to a few of the 'officals' the main reason for LYB sending the full MS team is to help CJ to remain at world No 4 thus qualify for the 3rd MS for olympics. can't see any other reason rather than this, can you?

Will be an interesting chess match for sure. INA sending out their full complement of Pelatnas MS to thwart this, and MAS also sending out their full contingent :)

except abedeng hails from kelantan but lives in kuala lumpur now whereas i'm from ipoh and lives in ipoh too :D

No no no, I live in Rawang, 50 kms North of KL.

JB is a tiring place to go. Not about the long distance, but the city traffic lights. They shouldn't have called the stretch between Ulu Tiram and JB City a "highway".

Eagle, surely you have heard such a thing, we call 'em budget hotels ...... :p come over and let's meet. Otherwise, there's still time for u and Azabaz to plan a getaway to Jakarta ......

Hmm..The Mutiara Hotel is actually quite far from the stadium.If you want to walk to the stadium from Mutiara Hotel,it will be vey tiring..So you can go by taxi or car..:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Actually, it's not the distance, it's the uphill climb back to the hotel that makes you welcome a taxi. :)

JB is at the southernmost tip of the Malaysian peninsula with Singapore just a causeway (bridge) away to the south.

If I travel from Singapore towards the northern part of Malaysia, I will arrive at (in order of distance nearer Singapore):

Johor (Johor Bahru)
Melaka (Malacca),
Negeri Sembilan (Seremban)
Selangor (Kuala Lumpur)
Perak (Ipoh)
Penang (George Town)
Kedah (Alor Setar)
Perlis (Kangar)

Perak, Perlis and Kedah share a common border with southern Thailand.

As for badminton, the popular Malaysian venues are JB, KL and Alor Setar.

The eastern part of the peninsula consists of the bigger states of Pahang (Kuantan & Cameron Highlands), Terengganu (Kuala Terengganu) and Kelantan (Kota Bahru) I think abedeng hails from Kelantan and azabaz_ipoh is from Ipoh. :)

Thanks for the name list. That was part of the confusion to me because the locations had been mentioned differently by BCers.

according to a few of the 'officals' the main reason for LYB sending the full MS team is to help CJ to remain at world No 4 thus qualify for the 3rd MS for olympics. can't see any other reason rather than this, can you?

There are many other reasons why LD may go: be with XXF, get more prize, pre-OG 08 conditioning, every other best Asian MS player will be there, etc. The reason you gave could be the main one. But CJ has to be able to win matches by himself. We saw CJ going all the way to AE 08 MSF or losing early in Swiss Open 08 and India Open 08. Mere presence of LD will not guarantee what CJ will achieve.

What I was asking is the facts regarding LD. It's been told LD did not go to MO for some reasons, but did he go to other recent ABC? Simply, I'm trying to assess how LD will fare against other players in an ABC setting.

Just joking lah :D. Accompany you watch mah, just I'll be flying in front of tv, you watch RTM or GD Sports/CCTV 5 online

I hope the time showing on streaming wouldn't be too bad for us, and wish you find time to fly off to courts sometimes so as to practice the "thinking" part to see how difficult it can be when against a better opponent :rolleyes:

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btw: I saw posts that LD used to skip MO due to weather or something, but LD is going to be at ABC. Does anyone know if LD went to previous ABC or he changed his mind this time?
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What I was asking is the facts regarding LD. It's been told LD did not go to MO for some reasons, but did he go to other recent ABC? Simply, I'm trying to assess how LD will fare against other players in an ABC setting.
..LinDan hasn't attended/competed in the ABC, used to be called that but now it's called BAC, in recent years.....let alone won it..;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badminton_Asia_Championships
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medalists_at_the_Badminton_Asia_Championships

..LinDan hasn't attended/competed in the ABC, used to be called that but now it's called BAC, in recent years.....let alone won it..;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badminton_Asia_Championships
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medalists_at_the_Badminton_Asia_Championships

Thanks Chris, my knowledgeable detective friend. So LD "changed his mind this time".

...So LD "changed his mind this time".
..but he could've been asked by LYB to attend this yr's BAC for the previous mentioned reason(s), in this thread. I still don't know why LD didn't attend this tourney the last few yrs, though. Instead, it has been attended by ChenHong and other CHN players.

..but he could've been asked by LYB to attend this yr's BAC for the previous mentioned reason(s), in this thread. I still don't know why LD didn't attend this tourney the last few yrs, though. Instead, it has been attended by ChenHong and other CHN players.

Yes, LD could be asked by LYB or even CJ. If your friend wants or needs you be there, wouldn't you go? If they are lucky in their draws, LD could win the half and CJ the other. If they are in the same half bracket, even if LD "loses" to CJ, the latter would still have to stand on his own feet to win afterward. As far as I can tell, CJ is in the right place in the World ranking. With some luck, he can reach SF albeit he's injury-free.

Look at my intro thread again, my friend, I'm not from KL.;):D Flying for an eagle, no sweat wan, just flap-flap go....It's not the distance... still need a couple hundred $$$ for hotel stay, that's out of budget.



Please check again next week, when the tv schedule is out. RTM will be showing I think, they do every year, RTM you can watch online.




YES, it was reported in every major newspaper & the M& Q report, Kido/Setiawan(Kido's dad just passed away) & Fu/Cai not going.
:crying::crying::crying:

Rtm does not exist in canada maybe in the north pole:D:D:D:D:D

except abedeng hails from kelantan but lives in kuala lumpur now whereas i'm from ipoh and lives in ipoh too :D
Kampong simeh in ipoh or ipoh gardens:cool::cool::cool::):):)

Just joking lah :D. Accompany you watch mah, just I'll be flying in front of tv, you watch RTM or GD Sports/CCTV 5 online
:crying::crying::crying:Are u sure It will be shown on guandong sports?:crying::crying::crying:

:crying::crying::crying:Are u sure It will be shown on guandong sports?:crying::crying::crying:

RTM 1 will be showing for sure, can watch online also. www.rtm.net.my (http://www.rtm.net.my) but needs to register. The rest will post some of the links they watch from or you can go thru the MO 2008 threads.

No no no, I live in Rawang, 50 kms North of KL.

JB is a tiring place to go. Not about the long distance, but the city traffic lights. They shouldn't have called the stretch between Ulu Tiram and JB City a "highway".

Eagle, surely you have heard such a thing, we call 'em budget hotels ...... :p come over and let's meet. Otherwise, there's still time for u and Azabaz to plan a getaway to Jakarta ......

aaahhhhh....rawang. perodua city. when i was working i shah alam, i went to rawang every other week. hahahahah.

i planned to go to jb before because louisa wants to do a gathering there. then she decided to go to jakarta and i made other plans hahahahahaha....so wrong timing. i will look forward to a gathering in kl soon. :p :D

Kampong simeh in ipoh or ipoh gardens:cool::cool::cool::):):)

ipoh does not consists of kg simee and ipoh garden only :D:D but yes i am familiar with both locations. :)

yo, is the DRAW out yet?
anyone???

Several withdrawals of WS disclipine so far are KOR players (Jun Jae Youn, Hwang Hye Youn and Lee Yun Hwa), HKG (Zhou Mi) and INA shuttlers (Adrianti Firdasari, Fransisca Ratnasari).

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO........:D:D:D

No no no, I live in Rawang, 50 kms North of KL.

JB is a tiring place to go. Not about the long distance, but the city traffic lights. They shouldn't have called the stretch between Ulu Tiram and JB City a "highway".

Eagle, surely you have heard such a thing, we call 'em budget hotels ...... :p come over and let's meet. Otherwise, there's still time for u and Azabaz to plan a getaway to Jakarta ......

So Bro Din, do we (hcyong and I) including Jessica, Vanguard and others see you for at least the SF (Sat) and F (Sun) before we meet again in Jakarta? ;)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO........:D:D:D

There goes my baby
With someone new ...

She sure looks happy
Madbad is blue ...

There goes my baby
With someone new ...

She sure looks happy
Madbad is blue ...

Here goes our local bard Uncle Loh again. :D:D:D

pjswift,thx for ur info! do u know hw long to reach da stadium from Larkin by taxi ?so ru going to ABC?
It's very near by taxi from Larkin. 5 to 10 mins and RM5 to RM8 depending on taxi driver.If you're gonna be there Fri, Sat or Sun and want good seats, turn up one hour earlier since it's free seating.I'll be there every day,just not sure when I'll turn up.ABC has been an excellent tournament the last 2 years because of the crowd.The crowd's very appreciative of the players. Especially during Finals, all the players get superstar treatment in terms of applause.

..but he could've been asked by LYB to attend this yr's BAC for the previous mentioned reason(s), in this thread. I still don't know why LD didn't attend this tourney the last few yrs, though. Instead, it has been attended by ChenHong and other CHN players.
Let me share some mind reading.
The last thing LD wants is to turn up for an ABC where all the other top non-CHN MS also sign up.ABC is tougher for LD than an SS.In an SS ,when LD plays an European MS, he's actually getting a match 'break', since no European MS has ever beaten him except PG once (in 2005?).Whereas Asian MS has been taking turns to beat LD in the last year (except fast fuel-leaking INA MS.)So LD can fall to anyone next week.The only reason for LD 's presence is to shore up his own OG08 chances. He's not doing it for CJ.If CJ does not qualify for OG08, LD's chance of winning gold practically evaporates, based on historical conditioning.

Let me share some mind reading.
The last thing LD wants is to turn up for an ABC where all the other top non-CHN MS also sign up.ABC is tougher for LD than an SS.In an SS ,when LD plays an European MS, he's actually getting a match 'break', since no European MS has ever beaten him except PG once (in 2005?).Whereas Asian MS has been taking turns to beat LD in the last year (except fast fuel-leaking INA MS.)So LD can fall to anyone next week.The only reason for LD 's presence is to shore up his own OG08 chances. He's not doing it for CJ.If CJ does not qualify for OG08, LD's chance of winning gold practically evaporates, based on historical conditioning.

The last statement is very bold based on one data point of "historical conditioning". It doesn't make a lot sense in math to me :rolleyes:

The last statement is very bold based on one data point of "historical conditioning". It doesn't make a lot sense in math to me :rolleyes:

Well, it's more than math and probabilities, at least for us "veteran critics" .... :D I'm sure you should be able to notice it, based on previous results, looking at how LD fared when all his colleagues fell before semis. Take the AG 2006, for example. And then move forward from then onwards, how many times did LD win while fighting alone? Good as LD is, I still rate Yang Yang and Han Jian better, they won titles without any "assistance or companionship", so to speak.

Not to say that we are not impressed by his consistency, but LD is not invulnerable. You could say he was bundled out by nerves in Athens, but Beijing won't be so kind if he fails again.

So Bro Din, do we (hcyong and I) including Jessica, Vanguard and others see you for at least the SF (Sat) and F (Sun) before we meet again in Jakarta? ;)

Yup, I will probably reach JB early Sat morning. Night drive. You guys on day trip or bunking somewhere in JB?

Well, it's more than math and probabilities, at least for us "veteran critics" .... :D I'm sure you should be able to notice it, based on previous results, looking at how LD fared when all his colleagues fell before semis. Take the AG 2006, for example. And then move forward from then onwards, how many times did LD win while fighting alone? Good as LD is, I still rate Yang Yang and Han Jian better, they won titles without any "assistance or companionship", so to speak.

Not to say that we are not impressed by his consistency, but LD is not invulnerable. You could say he was bundled out by nerves in Athens, but Beijing won't be so kind if he fails again.

I have no problem with any predictions based on facts. I have noticed LD or anyone may have this or that weakness. But "If CJ does not qualify for OG08, LD's chance of winning gold practically evaporates, based on historical conditioning" (post #243) went too far. If you'd agree with this kind logic and prediction, there would be no one left with a chance to win baddy gold medal in OG 08. I take this again as a way pjswift wanted to provocatively challenge our brains.

As "Take the AG 2006, for example. And then move forward from then onwards, how many times did LD win while fighting alone? Good as LD is, I still rate Yang Yang and Han Jian better", isn't the example a little old? What has happened to LD since that time and in comparison to other players? Chn players usually don't fight alone because they are the top ranked players and there are plenty of them entering SS. Besides, LD is not playing Yang Yang and Han Jian. LD will be up against LCW, TH, etc. Have we witnessed much hope from these players lately?

does anyone know how to get the ticket???pls!!!!

does anyone know how to get the ticket???pls!!!!
Kindly get the tickets from Stadium Bandaraya Johore Bahru to purchase the tickets.You can purchase it now. I already bought.
For your information of the ticket prices and the time of the game:
15 April -9am to 5.40pm -Free
16 April - 9am to 1.40pm & 5.30pm to 8.50pm -RM 10
17 April -9am to 1pm & 5.50pm to 8.50pm- RM10
18 April - 6.30pm to 9.10pm -RM 20
19 April -1.30pm RM 20
20 April -1.30pm RM 30

Season ticket: RM 60 for 5 days.

Yup, I will probably reach JB early Sat morning. Night drive. You guys on day trip or bunking somewhere in JB?

Haven't quite decided but probably day trip unless HC has other ideas. :D
Where will you be putting up? New york Hotel? ;)