Interesting ALL MAS MD especially KKK/TBH, Zakri/Fairizzuan, OSH/TBS, all OUT IN ROUND 1... I really think that REXY can't accept the result.. Especially KKK/TBH lost to Japan pair again !!!

Sigh.... Poor Rexy I have a feeling one of these days he will suffer from high blood pressure due to the consistent failure of his men.

Sigh.... Poor Rexy I have a feeling one of these days he will suffer from high blood pressure due to the consistent failure of his men.

Did the exhibition match on Sun give an effect since they also lost to English pair?. Good for TH not to accept the invitation. :D

if CTF/LWW doesn't go past the QF stage, i think rexy may be pressured to hand in his resignation? :eek:

REXY is not a magician
Please stop the speculation.

if CTF/LWW doesn't go past the QF stage, i think rexy may be pressured to hand in his resignation? :eek:
did u just landed on earth recently? it is actually the reverse, rexy was pressured to NOT to resign.

It didnt matter whether he resign or not. Because our pair is quite useless, dont think Rexy can do anything bout it anymore.....

did u just landed on earth recently? it is actually the reverse, rexy was pressured to NOT to resign.

no - i've never left this planet (not yet anyway)...i just didn't realise poor performances from the players will encourage BAM to persuade him to stay

There are lessons to be learned from the defeat :
From coaching staff points of view :
-Identify the weakness of each pair by reviewing how the opponents exploited them.
-Re-assess the true strength of each pair, simply, we are not as good as what we thought.
From the players point of view :
-Why the below par performance? Over-confident? Wrong strategy? Poor execution?
-Work harder and less boosting.
The key is still the Olympic, if that fail then everything fails!

what a suprising twist to the events! We all thought the Japanese pair would fall to Koo and Tan, but they beat Koo and Tan for the second time in a row, a feat only previously achieved by Cai and Fu...

What happened??? Apo sudah jadi???? :eek:

I was away for a couple of days and look what happened?? AE defending champs bundled out in the 1st round!! Hello, Malaysia Boleh fans, 1st round!

Didnt I not say that the writings were already on the wall earlier? Something is wrong when some cardboard Korean pair can beat our Malaysia Boleh manufactured so called AE champs without raising a sweat.

This is the price you pay when you strut about with a big time Charlie attitude - you get found out big time. And being packed away in the 1st round when you are the defending champion, it is beyond embarassing.

You aint gonna win nothing when your basics are not right, period. Very sad but thats the reality of the Malaysian make up.

.... and we are dreaming about winning that Olympic gold ... or two gold medals for those who are still in dreamland. :o

Yes, he is not..No one put the blame on him here...

REXY is not a magician
Please stop the speculation.

But sometimes lesson to learn can acts as an excuse for their lost..each time they lost, lesson to learn.. To me, in a prestigious tournament such as AE, Olympic, WC.. U only have 1 goal.. Is the title...

There are lessons to be learned from the defeat :
From coaching staff points of view :
-Identify the weakness of each pair by reviewing how the opponents exploited them.
-Re-assess the true strength of each pair, simply, we are not as good as what we thought.
From the players point of view :
-Why the below par performance? Over-confident? Wrong strategy? Poor execution?
-Work harder and less boosting.
The key is still the Olympic, if that fail then everything fails!

Knew this is coming when lost to the Korean scratch in TC. They were all around the place, couldnt get points string together, 1 winner, 2 more UEs following...

To win is to beat everyone in their path. In simple the Malaysian MD new pairs just not good enough.

But sometimes lesson to learn can acts as an excuse for their lost..each time they lost, lesson to learn.. To me, in a prestigious tournament such as AE, Olympic, WC.. U only have 1 goal.. Is the title...

But it seems that they never learn. 3 straight defeats to Jap pairs? U gotta be kidding me! Since they r nvr gonna learn, next time they better pray hard not to meet the japs again. :mad:

The crows will start crowing (or have already). KKK-TBH, you will hear no end of this - I will sympathise with you.

The crows will start crowing (or have already). KKK-TBH, you will hear no end of this - I will sympathise with you.


maybe if Rexy could just concentrate on MD only instead of shouldering WD and MX then he could fully concetrate on our most talented pair.

Just give this pair a chance.. they are young and at the moment they are going thru a downhill phase.

Tan Boon Heong and Koo Kien Keat... Pick yrself up and just play yr game u both knows best.

All England so-called defending champion, 1st round exit. :o

Maybe the hair colour needs to some adjusting, more striking golden blonde coupled with double studded earings, thicker gold chains, bracelets plus a thick jade pendant and more gold rings next time ... please.

Poor Rexy. Maybe a coaching job in the UK or USA is good for the heart.

Either fire the head coach or change the players around.

Swap the MD pairs around a bit. Put KKK with Zakry or Tan Bin Sheng.

TBH can play with Ong Soon Hock/Faizruz....

Even better, follow the Korean Strategy like putting TBH or KKK as singles player. This will give them a new change of scenery.

If this doesn't work...nothing else will.

maybe if Rexy could just concentrate on MD only instead of shouldering WD and MX then he could fully concetrate on our most talented pair.

Just give this pair a chance.. they are young and at the moment they are going thru a downhill phase.

Tan Boon Heong and Koo Kien Keat... Pick yrself up and just play yr game u both knows best.

Give KKK/TBH another chance?? Sure, I say give them lots of chances as they are young etc & all.

Maybe BAM should give them a pay hike as well so that they can be more motivated. What the heck, I say BAM should give KKK/TBH a car each, say a Volvo XC90 so that they can travel to training in comfort.

All England so-called defending champion, 1st round exit. :o

Maybe the hair colour needs to some adjusting, more striking golden blonde coupled with double studded earings, thicker gold chains, bracelets plus a thick jade pendant and more gold rings next time ... please.

Poor Rexy. Maybe a coaching job in the UK or USA is good for the heart.

I was waiting for the usual Pemuda statement :D:D:D:p:p:p

I was waiting for the usual Pemuda statement :D:D:D:p:p:p

Come to think of it ... I think I have been a little harsh in the past.

Lets give KKK/TBH some time. They are young. It was a long flight to England. Weather is bit cold. The food is different, no belacan, no sambal tumis etc. So, in the name of Malaysia Boleh, I am for giving them some time.

And I think BAM should increase their salaries/bonuses/allowances etc.

Show them love as there are many more AEs and Olympic games.

The crows will start crowing (or have already). KKK-TBH, you will hear no end of this - I will sympathise with you.

Hello there Xball, we knew it's going to start aft seeing the results;). Only the oldies left standing in MD. I sympathise with KKK/TBH too, esp TBH.
It'll be all over the media with the usual criticism.

Either fire the head coach or change the players around.

Swap the MD pairs around a bit. Put KKK with Zakry or Tan Bin Sheng.

TBH can play with Ong Soon Hock/Faizruz....

Even better, follow the Korean Strategy like putting TBH or KKK as singles player. This will give them a new change of scenery.

If this doesn't work...nothing else will.

They cant change partners at this stage, too near OG.

I was waiting for the usual Pemuda statement :D:D:D:p:p:p


And you were not disappointed -- he is at his best now, ain't nothing got to stop him. It is his day.:D

Oh well.. hard luck. But good to see the Japanese pair improving. It's Tadashi Ohtsuka and Keita Masuda, right ?

Show them love as there are many more AEs and Olympic games.
Looking on the bright side, maybe they will peak for the RM1 million Olympic gold

Hello there Xball, we knew it's going to start aft seeing the results;). Only the oldies left standing in MD. I sympathise with KKK/TBH too, esp TBH.

Bear with it -- he has got to have his day.;)

Well the oldies are goodies. Although I have supported KKK-TBH, I always like LWW-CTF better, in terms of style of play (when they start smashing, it gets my heart pumping).:D

Oh well.. hard luck. But good to see the Japanese pair improving. It's Tadashi Ohtsuka and Keita Masuda, right ?

It's Sakamoto/Ikeda, same one who beat them in WC 2007. It was Kido/Setiawan who lost to Ohtsuka/Masuda, also in straight sets.

The other 3 pairs lost to HK, Denmark(Boe/Morgenson), USA. CTF/LWW lost to this US pair bf last year but I was surprised TBS/Ong didnt get past them in AE.

Interesting ALL MAS MD especially KKK/TBH, Zakri/Fairizzuan, OSH/TBS, all OUT IN ROUND 1... I really think that REXY can't accept the result.. Especially KKK/TBH lost to Japan pair again !!!
I wont put the blame on rexy,though.This guy did nothing wrong.
KKK/TBH in AE is a disaster.I couldnt denying it with any words.It is too clear.

KKK n TBh's explanations sound typical.everytime they lose,the same words uttered.But theres no way we can put them behind now.The moment they need true fans is now.

C'mon.Get ur heart stronger n support.

Bear with it -- he has got to have his day.;)

Well the oldies are goodies. Although I have supported KKK-TBH, I always like LWW-CTF better, in terms of style of play (when they start smashing, it gets my heart pumping).:D

Yeah, when LWW isnt injured & uncle Choong is fired up, very interesting to watch. Worrying though, 5 pairs only left one pair. Last year, they survived till QF. Junior XD Tan/Woon (since they're also under Rexy)almost upset British pair but couldnt hack it in 3rd set.

Meanwhile, I'm off to ask Badmania what happened to his 2 mighties.

I was waiting for the usual Pemuda statement :D:D:D:p:p:p
Dont start it now.I thought he was too busy with election process n dont have them for this.But he is willing...wow.

Anw,i know there are alot of loyal fans.Let show it now.
HArd rite?I just review their interviews n TBh can smile.How could him?
But TOmmorow never dies.kkk/tbh too.

I wont put the blame on rexy,though.This guy did nothing wrong.
KKK/TBH in AE is a disaster.I couldnt denying it with any words.It is too clear.

KKK n TBh's explanations sound typical.everytime they lose,the same words uttered.But theres no way we can put them behind now.The moment they need true fans is now.

C'mon.Get ur heart stronger n support.

They will sit on the bench and ponder their loss. There are many more battles for them- but we will not worry for them as we will support the oldies for now.:)

Dont start it now.I thought he was too busy with election process n dont have them for this.But he is willing...wow.

Anw,i know there are alot of loyal fans.Let show it now.
HArd rite?I just review their interviews n TBh can smile.How could him?
But TOmmorow never dies.kkk/tbh too.
their interview???
where???
did u upload???
i wanna watch to...
i'm happy that tbh still can smile...:)
i really worried if he gonna stress...
thanks god he's not too down...
this defeat its not the end...
i still believe on them...:)

They will sit on the bench and ponder their loss. There are many more battles for them- but we will not worry for them as we will support the oldies for now.:)
yup...
my uncles wan wah n tan fook gonna play on behalf them...:)

rexy had said that I think Koo was overconfident today, as he wanted to avenge his loss from the World Championships so badly that he was sure they would win. He just can't do that as things are not that simple. You have to remain focussed at all times against players like the Japanese pair. Now, I am just disappointed with their outing today. We have to forget about it and move on to prepare for next week."

rexy had said that I think Koo was overconfident today, as he wanted to avenge his loss from the World Championships so badly that he was sure they would win. He just can't do that as things are not that simple. You have to remain focussed at all times against players like the Japanese pair. Now, I am just disappointed with their outing today. We have to forget about it and move on to prepare for next week."

George..Is this what rexy said during the interview???How about Koo/Tan???:confused:

yeah, thats what rexy said during the interviews....
koo/tan interviews i`ve never heard b4 in this tournament..
do u watch 2day highlight??
do they talked anything???

yeah, thats what rexy said during the interviews....
koo/tan interviews i`ve never heard b4 in this tournament..
do u watch 2day highlight??
do they talked anything???
I forgot to watch the hightlight today..So i don't know what they say...:o

what a sad day for MAS badminton squad yesterday....

what a sad day for MAS badminton squad yesterday....
Yup..But george,what is pass already pass..Now we can only concentrate to support LCW and the rest and i believe they can do it..:)

I forgot to watch the hightlight today..So i don't know what they say...:o


What can they say really ? Not much except perhaps that they are still inconsistent as a pair. Or perhaps the fast lane is faster than they thought.

But for sure, sitting on the bench is not much fun. I am sure Rexy will force them to sit there and watch. But my bet is the oldies will be able to redeem some pride for Rexy.

What can they say really ? Not much except perhaps that they are still inconsistent as a pair. Or perhaps the fast lane is faster than they thought.

But for sure, sitting on the bench is not much fun. I am sure Rexy will force them to sit there and watch. But my bet is the oldies will be able to redeem some pride for Rexy.
they shud clar a very easy hurdle 2day...
vs khan bob malaythong/howard bach..
but i hope they wont underestimate the pair..

rexy cant take it, me too cant take it!!!..
argghhhh
very frusrated..!!
suddenly so many pair of MAS md out in the 1st round!!

Another Yoyo in the making .... :D :D :D

Another Yoyo in the making .... :D :D :D
nah.. Still too far for a YOYO standards.

They either Win consecutively or lost in a sequence :o

Both presidents (Hafiz, Roslin) of YoYo club crash out yesterday right?
Don't worry M'sia fans, I think as usual there is still top man single player (LCW), top woman single (WMC), best old MD pair (Uncle Chong and Lee), top women pair (CEH/WPT) for everyone to cheer for today.

i'm dissapointed with mk/hs 2 :)... :(

Interesting ALL MAS MD especially KKK/TBH, Zakri/Fairizzuan, OSH/TBS, all OUT IN ROUND 1... I really think that REXY can't accept the result.. Especially KKK/TBH lost to Japan pair again !!!

I still think Rexy is a right man for MAS MD.
they keep improve under Rexy's coaching style.

what a sad day for MAS badminton squad yesterday....

China also.
XXF & ZN was out.
and there is another 2 CHN players will be out today.

Faint! Excuse ..excuse & the excuse.. food...weather... Then what about others player? If Makis/Kido will be the AE Champ.. Do they eat different food or stay in "special place" in England?

Come to think of it ... I think I have been a little

Lets give KKK/TBH some time. They are young. It was a long flight to England. Weather is bit cold. The food is different, no belacan, no sambal tumis etc. So, in the name of Malaysia Boleh, I am for giving them some time.

And I think BAM should increase their salaries/bonuses/allowances etc.

Show them love as there are many more AEs and Olympic games.

Poor Rexy,....so much pressure for him to bear....as Mas MD, WD, XD coach...

And most of the players are in their low now..........i saw his photos in the other thread.....he sure have a pair of big 'panda' eyes.....pity him....

Rexy....you have my support......keep on kicking....striving.....with this bunch of young players............dont give up.....

I was waiting for the usual Pemuda statement :D:D:D:p:p:p

yeah me too.....:D:D:D

Faint! Excuse ..excuse & the excuse.. food...weather... Then what about others player? If Makis/Kido will be the AE Champ.. Do they eat different food or stay in "special place" in England?

Errrr what you mean ah? That's Pemuda being sarcastic-lah, reverse language.
You started this thread right? We lost 4 out of 5 MDs, sad, yes, but not entirely surprised. The players themselves or Rexy dont give excuse, they just say they didnt play well, they know very well their short coming, stimes too well till they cant get pass the failure.
And as usual the bashing will come from the majority.

I'm sure you know Kido/Setiawan, Limpele/Marissa also lost, their supporters sad.
XXF, Zhang Ning lost, China supporters sad.
LHI lost, Korea supporters sad.

Cheer up Xymaerts, this year looks like LCW's turn to prove his mettle.

Wait a minute! Remember the Sidek wonder boys of 1981 or was that 82.

19 and 18 yrs old respectively and won the AE MD that year. But the following year and many years had nothing major to boot and couldnt even challenge the big boys of MD. But 4 years later in 1986 they blossomed into a formidable force to be the top 3 after Park/Kim, Tian/Lee and stayed on until they won the TC in 1992 at the ripe old age on 29 and 28.

Not Rexy's fault. Our boys cant take the pressure so they would have to slog it out for the next few years before they can rise again.

Ong Soon Hock and Tan Bin Shen or Fairuzizuan and Zakry and even the other pair I think can step aside for the juniors who are
18 and 19 now so that they can take pressure early and we wont get clobbered again.

If CTF/LWW make it to the final, it goes to show that the standard of MD today cant even compare to Cheah and Yap of old.

i'm dissapointed with mk/hs 2 :)... :(

and I'm disappointed with ZN & XXF:(

and I'm disappointed with ZN & XXF:(

For ZN, I think it's understandable, age has caught up. XXF practically gave up, that even I cannot understand.

Even Roger Federer lost in the 1st Round of Dubai Open. He was the defending Champ as well. Nothing to worry about.

Give KKK/TBH another chance?? Sure, I say give them lots of chances as they are young etc & all.

Maybe BAM should give them a pay hike as well so that they can be more motivated. What the heck, I say BAM should give KKK/TBH a car each, say a Volvo XC90 so that they can travel to training in comfort.
That's the exact mindset that sets the path for failure.
Pemuda always makes good points like KKK's hair :).
I like your posts

i hope KKK/TBH are not doing a 'Hafiz' ie winning the AE one year and then gradually fade into the background...

i really hope they'll bounce back with confidence in the Swiss Open. come on boys!

Even Roger Federer lost in the 1st Round of Dubai Open. He was the defending Champ as well. Nothing to worry about.
roger federe is not same...he had won many ATP tourneys and win many moneys already...win or lose is juz the same for him...
not like badminton players...

For ZN, I think it's understandable, age has caught up. XXF practically gave up, that even I cannot understand.

Really sad to see both of them losing in the 1st round :(. Maybe bcoz of OG XXF put to much pressure on herself. Come on add more oil XXF. Hope to see ZN & XXF back in action in Swiss SS.:D

Even Roger Federer lost in the 1st Round of Dubai Open. He was the defending Champ as well. Nothing to worry about.

Yes, yes keep on consoling yourself. I am taking out em' tissues :crying:

Really sad that they are out in the first round. Are they too confident or lose confident on themselves? Really hope that they will learn from all the mistake and weaknesses and perform better next week. Hope they won't just go down the hill like this. They have the skills to do it, provided they want and determine to do it.

KKK/TBH really hope that you two will continue to work hard together can perform better!!!

Credit to Uncle Park Joo Bong lor... haiz...
Rexy will vomit blood if they fail in the next tournament. Apa jadi? Change partner or retire lah...

Wait a minute! Remember the Sidek wonder boys of 1981 or was that 82.

19 and 18 yrs old respectively and won the AE MD that year. But the following year and many years had nothing major to boot and couldnt even challenge the big boys of MD. But 4 years later in 1986 they blossomed into a formidable force to be the top 3 after Park/Kim, Tian/Lee and stayed on until they won the TC in 1992 at the ripe old age on 29 and 28.

Not Rexy's fault. Our boys cant take the pressure so they would have to slog it out for the next few years before they can rise again.

Ong Soon Hock and Tan Bin Shen or Fairuzizuan and Zakry and even the other pair I think can step aside for the juniors who are
18 and 19 now so that they can take pressure early and we wont get clobbered again.

If CTF/LWW make it to the final, it goes to show that the standard of MD today cant even compare to Cheah and Yap of old.
Stop giving comment...All these are just the illusion or tricks that trying to play by Rexy before OG. Let's see, out from no where KKK&TBH will become the ultimate champion. Eventually, they will be the OG or WC champs ! TRUST ME...

Federer said he lacked matchplay;maybe that's XXF's problem.However,unlike Federer who went skiing instead of working on the circuit, XXF had no choice cos she was injured.Guess top players pay the price for getting rusty if their first round opponents have the confidence to win.

Rexy is upset. But he is not taking it lightly. He has been given some silent treatment to the players.

Here's what Rexy's comment on the lost of KKK/TBH in AE 2008:

'' Koo and Tan kept on winning last year and i got used to that.Now, they kepep on losing and i have gotten used to it too.''

''They played so well in Vietnam last month. But they were still not good enough to beat the japanese, who played exceptionally well.''

''It was dissapointing but I will continue to find ways to stop them from LOSING ALL THE TIME.''

''Koo and Tan wanted so badly to avenge their defeat by this Japanese pair. I know that. But KOO WAS OVER CONFIDENT AND HE PANICKED WHEN HIS GOOD SHOTS KEPT COMING BACK. He was even BREATHLESS during the break.I wished he had palyed his normal free and easy game. I am However, pleased with TAN, who produced one of his best matches in recent times."

Clearly that Koo got problem.this boy is over-confident - FLAMBOYANT KIEN KEAT.

I think we need an expert opinion. Let's find cheekygen for an analysis:) Wonder if she can help out.

Here's what Rexy's comment on the lost of KKK/TBH in AE 2008:

'' Koo and Tan kept on winning last year and i got used to that.Now, they kepep on losing and i have gotten used to it too.''

''They played so well in Vietnam last month. But they were still not good enough to beat the japanese, who played exceptionally well.''

''It was dissapointing but I will continue to find ways to stop them from LOSING ALL THE TIME.''

''Koo and Tan wanted so badly to avenge their defeat by this Japanese pair. I know that. But KOO WAS OVER CONFIDENT AND HE PANICKED WHEN HIS GOOD SHOTS KEPT COMING BACK. He was even BREATHLESS during the break.I wished he had palyed his normal free and easy game. I am However, pleased with TAN, who produced one of his best matches in recent times."

Clearly that Koo got problem.this boy is over-confident - FLAMBOYANT KIEN KEAT.

Hello Dato,

You like his hairdo, rings, bracelets, chains and all???
Never mind la KKK/TBH got thrown out in the 1st round. I am sure they will win either the Phillippines Open or East Timor Open and things will be all fine and great again for the Malaysia Boleh fans.

Most important for Malaysia is gaya itu mesti ada.

Hello Dato,

You like his hairdo, rings, bracelets, chains and all???
Never mind la KKK/TBH got thrown out in the 1st round. I am sure they will win either the Phillippines Open or East Timor Open and things will be all fine and great again for the Malaysia Boleh fans.

Most important for Malaysia is gaya itu mesti ada.
I think next target for them is either win the Brazil Open or the South Africa Open.:eek:
Asia, cannot perform. Euro also failed. Better try some other continent :p

Give KKK/TBH another chance?? Sure, I say give them lots of chances as they are young etc & all.

Maybe BAM should give them a pay hike as well so that they can be more motivated. What the heck, I say BAM should give KKK/TBH a car each, say a Volvo XC90 so that they can travel to training in comfort.

Maybe BAM should have treat them like how european football clubs treat their players heh?:D...

Perhaps they are rushing back to participate for the 12th General election tomorrow....

I think next target for them is either win the Brazil Open or the South Africa Open.:eek:
Asia, cannot perform. Euro also failed. Better try some other continent :p

cruel..sarcastically cruel comment...
easy said, right...

Huh, Rexy can't take it:confused: Welcome back to Jakarta, we'll greet you with open arms:D

Huh, Rexy can't take it:confused: Welcome back to Jakarta, we'll greet you with open arms:D


i'm confused with you.. are you singaporean or indonesian :D.. btw i agree with your post above :D

Hello Dato,

You like his hairdo, rings, bracelets, chains and all???
Never mind la KKK/TBH got thrown out in the 1st round. I am sure they will win either the Phillippines Open or East Timor Open and things will be all fine and great again for the Malaysia Boleh fans.

Most important for Malaysia is gaya itu mesti ada.
Im sorry.its not even funny at all.

Even if we have tiger woods,u'll still blame him when he missed the cut in a major for the first time in his pro career in Us open 2006
Even if we have federer,u'll still blame him when he was knocked out in the first round in Dubai open this year
This is a disaster for them.
Disaster for kkk/tbh is their doomsday in the end of 2007 till now.

So,here,what is ur role actually?U are doing the talkings as a..?

Huh, Rexy can't take it:confused: Welcome back to Jakarta, we'll greet you with open arms:D
Give us one year..
I was afraid developing juniors cant deal with this.
Rexy,stay for a while.

One thing Rexy needs to recognize is our Malaysian ace is only one of the best in the world and stop giving excuses like our players didn't play well or too eager to win, it's about time to acknowledge the opponents are really good, yes, even the Japanese pairs!
Rexy has done a wonderful job bringing up KKK/TBH so is Park Jubong on the Japanese pairs, lets be clear about that!

Even Roger Federer lost in the 1st Round of Dubai Open. He was the defending Champ as well. Nothing to worry about.
Roger was diagnosed with mononucleosis last month after seeing doctors in Switzerland and Dubai. (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/08/sports/tennis/08tennis.html?em&ex=1205211600&en=5fa259728ad3bab5&ei=5087%0A)

I suspect that Koo/Tan are suffering from mononucleosis as well. LOL :D:D

Note: Mononucleosis is an infection usually caused by the Epstein-Barr virus. It can produce flulike symptoms and extreme, lingering fatigue. Physicians often discourage those with mononucleosis from taking part in intense physical activity because of the risk of rupturing the spleen, which can become enlarged because of the infection.

Dato,regarding the flamboyant kien kiat.Relax,dato.thats too much.

for a while,forget the fact that im his fan,please listen to me.
KKk maybe overconfident.but when he cant do service well,he is lack of confidence too.

He is like a child who is very confident to beat a playfellow in a game,but when that friend got him back,he lost all the confidence he had before.
All due to overconfident in the early of the game.

Im dissapointed to see him cannot conquered the court well,cannot be a leader for tbh,cannot ogle at opponents with his smashing eyes.Lying down on court to do a strike up service showed confidence,being unable to do so,especially in the end of game in the last set,it just showed kkk is lack of confidence in the middle of the game.But,also,overconfident at the beggining.
The usual kkk(in the early of 2007) is full of passion,he know how to play the game.how to manage good frontman(especially).look what happen to cai yun.

What rexy have said is undeniable.He knows the doubles better.Better than anyone of us here.But i appreciate if we can look at that statement deeper.
Understand the whole meaning.
we have lost hafiz.not kkk/tbh.We bashed hafiz all the way after Ae.Is that helping?it was proved not.
Dont do another mistake.

One thing Rexy needs to recognize is our Malaysian ace is only one of the best in the world and stop giving excuses like our players didn't play well or too eager to win, it's about time to acknowledge the opponents are really good, yes, even the Japanese pairs!
Rexy has done a wonderful job bringing up KKK/TBH so is Park Jubong on the Japanese pairs, lets be clear about that!
Actually rexy did said that,that japanese pair played good.
In the last Wc,i was unable to define what is wrong with kkk/tbh.They should in peak last july.But what to do?

but now,this march 2008,in birmingham,kkk/tbh just doesnt match the first class double.Thats all.They have the qualities but also,have lost that now.
Will they regain that?not the titles but the qualities of a good double.

Im sorry.its not even funny at all.

Even if we have tiger woods,u'll still blame him when he missed the cut in a major for the first time in his pro career in Us open 2006
Even if we have federer,u'll still blame him when he was knocked out in the first round in Dubai open this year
This is a disaster for them.
Disaster for kkk/tbh is their doomsday in the end of 2007 till now.

So,here,what is ur role actually?U are doing the talkings as a..?

My dear,

Even if we have a Tiger Woods or a Roger Federer, we wont have a clue how to develop or manage them properly. Most probably our politicians will be taking them on their election rounds , fishing for votes. Using them like pawns.

Give us one year..
I was afraid developing juniors cant deal with this.
Rexy,stay for a while.

It took me awhile to understand what you said but isn't your juniors under the wing of Rashid Sidek:confused:Isn't Rexy loaded with work already with MD, XD, WD:confused:and now developing juniors also:rolleyes:. I am certainly not admiring his position:p
It is like some boss hiring you at a price tag of USD 2k and expect you to do a USD 6k job:o That sucks:D

In my humble opinion.....


M'sian players are not being taught how to handle fame,pressure/ expectations and success. Each players have use their own way to overcome setback. Some use avoidance, withdrawal, projection, displacement, etc.The pair of KKK and TBH was formed accidently during the Asian Games and they won a gold medal unexpectedly. The current batch of players world badminton standards are inconsistent. Take the Chinese women singles for example, they can no longer dominate like they used to. Base on the current 21 points system, players from other countries are able to narrow their gap with the top guns. This is the objective of the BWF in introducing the new scoring system, by breaking the Chinese dominance and lower predictability. In this scoring system and the new drawing system, it is almost difficult to say who will win in any particular tournament.

Back to KKK and TBH, i think they carry too much pressure to themselves. The fear of losing, the fear of letting people down and disappointment, ... KKK and TBH are different in their personality and probably have difficulties in communicating their differences. They can share success but not failure or maybe they don't even know how to overcome failure.

In addition, a lot of players from Korea, Japan, Denmark and China started to study their game and that is why they find it hard to overcome their opponent as they already know their game. They lack of analysis skills and cooperative/ support within the groups of people in the organization . They need to face their fear and dare to lose. There is a difference between i have to win, i want to win, i need to win, i hope to win and i will win. Players often feel that way and what is the difference is that how they feel about it. Add the statement of I have to win, i want to win, i need to win, i hope to win and i will win with - but i'm not sure if i can / but i'm not confidence to win/ but the opponent is in great form..... etc. Cognitive dissonance i called it.

The Japanese pair are improving under the guidance of Park Joo Bong. I'm sad to say that i seldom see the M'sia team to have team spirit like the japan team, korea team or even indonesia team. The entire social support is there and look at the japanese, they are performing and they are enjoying it. Same cannot be say with the M'sian... they are too tense with the face of "kiasunism" be it from the coaches or the players. I understand Coach Rexy want them to win every single tournament but that kind of mentality "i have to win, i need to win, i hope to win" put extra pressure on themselves because they are simply not confident in winning. For the highest level of playing badminton, it is not the matter of skill, stamina, footwork and startegy... its about the mind. That is why a world champion is different from others. There is something that the world champion had that the others don't. Or else what is the different between a state level champion and a national champion, a national champion and a world champion? That is the x-factor, to become a champion. They know how to handle pressure and despite the fear that they have ,they choose to do it anyway. I'm certain that CTF and LWW understood that. They are more relax now compare than few years back when they are so pressured to win.

To illustrate it with politics in M'sia, the current KKK and TBH's situation is like the Barisan Nasional. Each party represents each groups of players in association, MS, MD, LS,LD,MD. Each group within the association only take care of their own group and discriminate the others when they are performing better. Their inconsistency of performance cause the public lost their faith and trust in them. Unless the groups of players come together like the opposition parties, they can do wonders. To achieve that, they have to CHANGE their mentality, put the country above their own interest.

KKK and TBH have great potential but they need time to mature. They have to find the reasons why they are performing inconsistenly and work out a solution. One of the difficult part of the players is that they don't think psychology is important in badminton. They need to seek help from the sport psychologist to overcome their personal insecurities, fears and pressure. They have to change the way they think, and from there they see changes in their game. How much do they understand themselves and their partners are also important.

A very insightful analysis.

Thank you very much.

Coming back to sports psychology, even HK's chief coach suggested Wang Chen should get help form a sports psychologist in order to make the difference in winning the big tournaments. In the very same article, Wang Chen's reply was that she doesn't need a sports psychologist. This illustrates that some individuals may be in denial of even trying out the option.

The team spirit aspect is something few people have touched upon. Win or lose, you are still part of the team, right?

Pemuda:

I think you are very good in rubbing salt on your countrymen's wounds.

The team spirit aspect is something few people have touched upon. Win or lose, you are still part of the team, right?

Each of his owns. In the 90s, Dennis Rodman (Chicago Bulls best defensive player) once quoted during an interview, "Defence wins the game, Offence gets the glory". He was referring to Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen ;)

In soccer, 90% of top awards go to striker aka scorer; rarely goes for defender (except the Italy player in recent world cup) or goalkeeper (except German Kahn). OK, i said "rarely", not "entirely". :rolleyes:

The same goes for Badminton (except team events such as Sudirman/Uber Cup, etc). Most of the players chasing for personal glory, they are human afterall. Who will remember OG Silver or Bronze medalists? We only remember the winners aka Gold medalist (Taufik, Ji Xin Peng, ParkJB, Rexy, etc...) I am 100% sure that LD/LCW/BCL/CJ/etc are all gearing up for the personal glory at OG08 :cool:

Each of his owns. In the 90s, Dennis Rodman (Chicago Bulls best defensive player) once quoted during an interview, "Defence wins the game, Offence gets the glory". He was referring to Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen ;)

In soccer, 90% of top awards go to striker aka scorer; rarely goes for defender (except the Italy player in recent world cup) or goalkeeper (except German Kahn). OK, i said "rarely", not "entirely". :rolleyes:

The same goes for Badminton (except team events such as Sudirman/Uber Cup, etc). Most of the players chasing for personal glory, they are human afterall. Who will remember OG Silver or Bronze medalists? We only remember the winners aka Gold medalist (Taufik, Ji Xin Peng, ParkJB, Rexy, etc...) I am 100% sure that LD/LCW/BCL/CJ/etc are all gearing up for the personal glory at OG08 :cool:

You might think it's individual gain but they can't win without a team behind them. Ever heard of Lance Armstrong? He had a very strong team behind him. It goes for most things as well. Even in business or organisations.

If you haven't got a good team that supports you, when the going gets tough, the tough cannot get going...

I've seen myself the M'sian team support at tournaments. You see the doubles support each other but I don't notice the same support for the singles players or the ladies players. It's not like the Koreans where most of them are there in the stadium watching their team mates, calling out support.

1) Back to KKK and TBH, i think they carry too much pressure to themselves. The fear of losing, the fear of letting people down and disappointment, ... KKK and TBH are different in their personality and probably have difficulties in communicating their differences. They can share success but not failure or maybe they don't even know how to overcome failure.


2) .......... I'm certain that CTF and LWW understood that. They are more relax now compare than few years back when they are so pressured to win.

3) ....... One of the difficult part of the players is that they don't think psychology is important in badminton. They need to seek help from the sport psychologist to overcome their personal insecurities, fears and pressure. They have to change the way they think, and from there they see changes in their game. How much do they understand themselves and their partners are also important.


1) It's featured in the media & have been mentioned here but seen as an 'excuse' by some - even Sports Ministers consider the pressure reason as excuse. Msia never win OG gold before, so the "must win" pressure is there.
Now there are even calls to split the pair, etc,etc.

2) LWW said so in The Star - 2008 could be their last year before retiring, they decided to be more relaxed, LWW said did them good in terms of results - although they failed in AE Semis(as usual,due to CTF being nervous), they performed better than they would if they were under pressure.

3) Errrrrr Rexy uses the services of the sports psychologist more than the other coaches. TBH have felt the pressure, I call it catching Fairuz's "nervous disease" at crucial points. KKK feels too, but he doesnt show it as much.

There's the hightened anxiety as OG is only 5 months away, it's matter whether they & LCW can overcome all this by then.

You might think it's individual gain but they can't win without a team behind them. Ever heard of Lance Armstrong? He had a very strong team behind him. It goes for most things as well. Even in business or organisations.

If you haven't got a good team that supports you, when the going gets tough, the tough cannot get going...

I've seen myself the M'sian team support at tournaments. You see the doubles support each other but I don't notice the same support for the singles players or the ladies players. It's not like the Koreans where most of them are there in the stadium watching their team mates, calling out support.

Well, everyone has a role to play (that's why they got paid handsomely) to form a formidable team. I doubt Msia players failed in AE was due to the teamwork, nor the coaches. The uncles LWW/CTF confessed that they had failed to finish it off when it matters most. So, dont blame that no support from your teamates, nor coaches. To me, that's non-sense. I'm 100% sure that Misbun + team are 100% behind our Mr.Yoyo but where does he stands now? first or second round casualties :rolleyes:

Well, everyone has a role to play (that's why they got paid handsomely) to form a formidable team. I doubt Msia players failed in AE was due to the teamwork, nor the coaches. The uncles LWW/CTF confessed that they had failed to finish it off when it matters most. So, dont blame that no support from your teamates, nor coaches. To me, that's non-sense. I'm 100% sure that Misbun + team are 100% behind our Mr.Yoyo but where does he stands now? first or second round casualties :rolleyes:Cheekygen has already mentioned why LWW/CTF are more consistent than in the past. And you assume because people are paid, the support is automatic. We are not talking only the physical support, it's the mental support, the support you get when you know everybody works together.

The team is only as strong as it's weakest link. We can see structural factors are good. So why are the players not performing? We have to look towards intangiable factors - team spirit (aka support) is very important.

So, dont blame that no support from your teamates, nor coaches.Having worked in poorly performing teams with poor morale and good teams with good results, I think good support and good management are also fundamental issues for success.

It took me awhile to understand what you said but isn't your juniors under the wing of Rashid Sidek:confused:Isn't Rexy loaded with work already with MD, XD, WD:confused:and now developing juniors also:rolleyes:. I am certainly not admiring his position:p
It is like some boss hiring you at a price tag of USD 2k and expect you to do a USD 6k job:o That sucks:D
No.My point is the developing juniors under him need full attention now.
KKk/tbh is a product by rexy.created by him.
In my info,rexy have some juniors that are going to be in elite squad.

To be left by ur mentor now??thast hurt,brother.
Or professionally.they need the first mentor until they are capable to stand by their own with a new coach.

My dear,

Even if we have a Tiger Woods or a Roger Federer, we wont have a clue how to develop or manage them properly. Most probably our politicians will be taking them on their election rounds , fishing for votes. Using them like pawns.
Dont expect me to do this oftenly.
But i do agree with u.Some parties are using athletes for their own needs.Thats disgusting.

With new picture of our leaders,maybe it will be a litle bit different.
Lets see how athletes in penang,selangor,kedah n perak works.
Will the MBs use them for individual needs?

I think what Koo-fan mean by juniors are the young players that just got promoted to senior squad = XD pairs of Lim/Ng and Wee Kiong/Woon.
Msia dont have full time XD pairs, so our Asia Junior & World Junior Champs will be the 1st. And Rexy has additional assistant coach in the form of Jeremy Gan to look after XD.

WD Chang is assistant and MD Pang is assistant.
WD Junior if any that could be promoted is Goh LY since Ng Hui Lin is already in senior squad.

Well, everyone has a role to play (that's why they got paid handsomely) to form a formidable team. I doubt Msia players failed in AE was due to the teamwork, nor the coaches. The uncles LWW/CTF confessed that they had failed to finish it off when it matters most. So, dont blame that no support from your teamates, nor coaches. To me, that's non-sense. I'm 100% sure that Misbun + team are 100% behind our Mr.Yoyo but where does he stands now? first or second round casualties :rolleyes:

I think thats too simple minded. How can you be sure that Misbun + team are 100% behind our Mr.Yoyo ? Its not the AE performance that we evaluate but the whole support system of the team in long term performance. Of course CTF and LWW's lost in AE cannot be due to the lack of support from the teamates, nor coaches but M'sian players are mostly individual and lonely warrior who fight in the battle alone.

Players often face 2 types of pressure; pressure from within themselves and pressure from the coaches,association,public/country. The problem is, most of the top players in M'sia are really extraordinary because they go into the court and fight alone,... carrying all the internal and external pressures. When they lose, they have to take the blame, criticism and being labeled as "Mr.Yoyo". When they win, suddenly everyone want to share their glory but where are these people when they lost? Not to mention , their team mates may not be the first but the last to share their victory due to the competitiveness environment.

What i'm trying to explain is that M'sian players like KKK and TBH who admitted that they have difficulties in overcome their pressure can greatly reduce their external pressure (which is the main excess baggage that they've been carrying since they started to win tournaments) if there is a group of supportive team mates, coaches, officials and organizational who share the pressures together with them. Hence, when players go inside the court, there is an assurance that no matter win or lose, they are still worthy for the people and these people will always be there for them through thick and thin.

The environment is like this; when a player wins, he or she received lots of praises, fame and rewards but because of this, others are envious and the attention they gained created extra pressure. When they lose, people start to criticize them saying they are too pampared, spoilt with fame and rewards, and their team mates are clapping and celebrating.... + coaches are giving them cold shoulder. Each time the players go for a tournament, these are the things that created the unconscious pressure and the fear of losing. This is the problem within the whole system (culture) of the organization and it effected everyone. Compare it with the Japanese or Korean, the support system( cooperation) is strong that coaches like Park Joo Bong, Li Mao love and enjoy working with the team and they are improving, producing results. Ask PJB and LM of their experience in working with the M'sian team and you will understand what i mean. Coaches like Rexy often felt frustrated with his player's inconsistent performance but in reality , Rexy have to understand that being a coach, he can only guide them and give them the best training prgram but to win every tournaments is something beyond his control.

Correct me if i'm wrong, base on the current drawing system by the BWF, top players can clash out in early rounds and i think it is unfair to call them first round or second round casualties. If that is the case, LH/HS,CY/FHF, ZN, XXF, ZL can also join the yoyo club and labeled as "first round or second round casualties".... ?

I think what Koo-fan mean by juniors are the young players that just got promoted to senior squad = XD pairs of Lim/Ng and Wee Kiong/Woon.
Msia dont have full time XD pairs, so our Asia Junior & World Junior Champs will be the 1st. And Rexy has additional assistant coach in the form of Jeremy Gan to look after XD.

WD Chang is assistant and MD Pang is assistant.
WD Junior if any that could be promoted is Goh LY since Ng Hui Lin is already in senior squad.
Thanks for explanation,sis.
Rexy got helpful hand by another coach.But in a way,he is still a man in charge.
Our young doubles still need rexy.
Not only them,we are hoping on rexy to stay as kkk/tbh's guidemaster.

taking my lovely fergie's - i'll leave man u when im sure my team is in good hand n my succesors are capable enough to lead.
Now,thats a true coach.

Sis Cheekygen,having read ur post.It is a new thing for me to know that our support system is that bad.
Basically,im not in the team.I dont even know whether u are in our team.
Anyway,I wont judge ur words.The line to determine authencity of an opinion is ambigous.i hold to this principle.

But,randomly,we can see how hafiz n tbh sing using a bottle as microphone to give support to julia wong.
How our athletes in Korat sacrifices their only leisure time before the next game to be on the court n give support.
How the other players defend their teammates in an interview for national tv station.
BAM continously give chances to players to proved themselves over n over again before get rid of these players.

What happen inside the team,i dont know.Obviously.
If we do have problems in this matter,thank u for revealing all these.This should be taken seriously.I personally keep asking myself what is actually happen to kkk.Ur opinion could be the answer.It is ok to lose.But To keep losing is something unacceptable.

Taking korea as an example is an option,after what they've done in Ae.
So,next task is to improve our suppport system?

It is ok to lose.But To keep losing is something unacceptable.

Taking korea as an example is an option,after what they've done in Ae.
So,next task is to improve our suppport system?

Perhaps it is the perceptions of the players, coaches, officials that it is NOT OK to lose. In reality, it is ok to lose but what is unacceptable is keep losing without finding out what is the problem and solve it. The thing is, the association, just like the M'sian gov is trying to cover any negativism from the public. But the unhealthy environment reflected in the player's performance. Don't get me wrong, i love the sport and i care for the future of our young player's development.

To improve our support system is not as easy as you think. There are too much politics, manipulation and power struggle. People fight for their own selfish reasons and to change that will take a very long time. The current batch of players can hardly change their mentality as they are being conditioned since they were young. The only hope that we have is the young junior players and we need more competent coaches that have knowledge not only in playing badminton but also knowledge in communication skills.

Improving the whole system is not simple.Of course.
From the bottom of the issue,we got to fix it with all our heart.be sincere when doing our job.

We,here,as fans n forumers called malaysians have our role too.
What can we do here is giving support to improve,Give suggestions.
N try very hard to avoid athletes feel bad about themselves all the way n refuses to wake up

supportive la.. Mlsia BOleh :)

round or second round casualties. If that is the case, LH/HS,CY/FHF, ZN, XXF, ZL can also join the yoyo club and labeled as "first round or second round casualties".... ?

The difference is: they have either won a WC or an Olympics Gold ;) Whereas, MAS players have yet to taste the success in either events :o

Dont expect me to do this oftenly.
But i do agree with u.Some parties are using athletes for their own needs.Thats disgusting.

With new picture of our leaders,maybe it will be a litle bit different.
Lets see how athletes in penang,selangor,kedah n perak works.
Will the MBs use them for individual needs?

*THUMPS THE TABLE*

This is one of the only time I agreed with Pemuda!

The separation of Politics and Professional Sport is fundamental. It makes my blood boil (http://thebadmintonblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/politics-and-badminton-should-not-mix.html)when I see the government using our badminton players (emphasis on our) for selfish political gains.

*THUMPS THE TABLE*

This is one of the only time I agreed with Pemuda!

The separation of Politics and Professional Sport is fundamental. It makes my blood boil (http://thebadmintonblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/politics-and-badminton-should-not-mix.html)when I see the government using our badminton players (emphasis on our) for selfish political gains.

Boss,

For example, you have not seen how the FAM supreme council members used the cash from corporate sponsors to buy their Mercedes Benzs, holidays abroad and etc rather than putting the cash back into the development of the game.

And I am dead sure this is also happening one way or the other in BAM or other sports bodies/associations.

The difference is: they have either won a WC or an Olympics Gold ;) Whereas, MAS players have yet to taste the success in either events :o

MAS players are gonna win that National GP open. They are ready to plunder!

*THUMPS THE TABLE*

This is one of the only time I agreed with Pemuda!

The separation of Politics and Professional Sport is fundamental. It makes my blood boil (http://thebadmintonblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/politics-and-badminton-should-not-mix.html)when I see the government using our badminton players (emphasis on our) for selfish political gains.
Of course most of us hate this to happen.
Blaming the players maybe wont be the best option,though.
Try figuring out another solution.

MAS players are gonna win that National GP open. They are ready to plunder!
n if they didnt win,i wonder what u will have to say

n if they didnt win,i wonder what u will have to say
koo_fan, how can they not win? ;)
After all, it's open only to Malaysian players, right?

Or am I mistaken? :confused:

koo_fan, how can they not win? ;)
After all, it's open only to Malaysian players, right?

Or am I mistaken? :confused:

I'm confused also unless i don't know the meaning of Malaysian.

koo_fan, how can they not win? ;)
After all, it's open only to Malaysian players, right?

Or am I mistaken? :confused:
Sorry.I think Pemuda is refering to our 'TOP' players.

If they cant win over juniors,i wonder what pemuda have to say.

*THUMPS THE TABLE*

This is one of the only time I agreed with Pemuda!

The separation of Politics and Professional Sport is fundamental. It makes my blood boil (http://thebadmintonblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/politics-and-badminton-should-not-mix.html)when I see the government using our badminton players (emphasis on our) for selfish political gains.


You know what else "make my blood boil"? Surreptitious URL links to a personal blog designed to increase readership count. Much like those government politicians for their own gain, don't you think?

Get readership by writing quality articles, vching, and sharing your thoughts openly on the forum, and getting feedback here.

-dave

Sorry.I think Pemuda is refering to our 'TOP' players.
.Sorry, I don't think so;). It's a very clever use of words.

n if they didnt win,i wonder what u will have to say

They have to win! If Malaysian players dont win that National GP, I will shave my head bald and run around my neighbourhood naked.

They have to win! If Malaysian players dont win that National GP, I will shave my head bald and run around my neighbourhood naked.

Must say neither concession sounds much like a penalty ;)

As for the GP, I'm placing my bets on LCW and CTF/LWW.

They have to win! If Malaysian players dont win that National GP, I will shave my head bald and run around my neighbourhood naked.
:D:D thats funny!...what a scene will be...:eek::eek:

They have to win! If Malaysian players dont win that National GP, I will shave my head bald and run around my neighbourhood naked.
And the odds of that you needing to exactly that is zero.:)

They have to win! If Malaysian players dont win that National GP, I will shave my head bald and run around my neighbourhood naked.
U wont be serious Pemuda.Tell me u wont.

You know what else "make my blood boil"? Surreptitious URL links to a personal blog designed to increase readership count. Much like those government politicians for their own gain, don't you think?

Get readership by writing quality articles, vching, and sharing your thoughts openly on the forum, and getting feedback here.

-dave

Me linking is not to improve readership count. It was to elaborate on what I meant. I linked it because not everyone wants to know more about it. I could have posted the whole thing here, but I didn't, because if people were interested, they could click on it and get linked to the news source/my views at the same time. If they had no interest, they could just skip it instead of being confronted by a large amount of text. This is the purpose of linking texts 'surreptitiously', you know.

Pray tell, what personal gain do I achieve from increased readership apart from personal satisfaction?

Bit rich of you to lecture me on writing quality articles. Try writing quality posts that relate to the thread before you open your gab. If I make your blood boil, ignore me. I know I will ignore you.

This is what Cantonese speaking people call: ng tong hei.

U wont be serious Pemuda.Tell me u wont.
You still haven't got it, have you? :(

Boss,

For example, you have not seen how the FAM supreme council members used the cash from corporate sponsors to buy their Mercedes Benzs, holidays abroad and etc rather than putting the cash back into the development of the game.

And I am dead sure this is also happening one way or the other in BAM or other sports bodies/associations.


Of course most of us hate this to happen.
Blaming the players maybe wont be the best option,though.
Try figuring out another solution.


Hmm... maybe getting a new government into the Parliament will work? Lets see whether our 5 opposition states can stay corruption-free or close... Maybe its worth a shot, not only to improve our athletes, but also our education, healthcare etc etc that are all affected by corruption...

Apart from that, koo_fan, I don't see another solution. As long as the core is rotten, the problem will persist. Replacing the BAM or changing the minister of sports will just shift the rot from one to another.

You still haven't got it, have you? :(
Tackle a cynical post with a...?

Hmm... maybe getting a new government into the Parliament will work? Lets see whether our 5 opposition states can stay corruption-free or close... Maybe its worth a shot, not only to improve our athletes, but also our education, healthcare etc etc that are all affected by corruption...



What happen in kedah tonight may prove something.No different.

Use athlestes to celebrate the won.Can we say that?

Me linking is not to improve readership count. It was to elaborate on what I meant. I linked it because not everyone wants to know more about it. I could have posted the whole thing here, but I didn't, because if people were interested, they could click on it and get linked to the news source/my views at the same time. If they had no interest, they could just skip it instead of being confronted by a large amount of text. This is the purpose of linking texts 'surreptitiously', you know.

Pray tell, what personal gain do I achieve from increased readership apart from personal satisfaction?

Bit rich of you to lecture me on writing quality articles. Try writing quality posts that relate to the thread before you open your gab. If I make your blood boil, ignore me. I know I will ignore you.

This is what Cantonese speaking people call: ng tong hei.


Good thing I don't speak Cantonese :D

BadmintonForum is a one-stop shop for badminton-related stuff, and non (Chit-Chat). Obviously, if you've composed, thought about, and wrote up a page that you think is worthwhile for a blog post, why not post it up here? I'm sure readers here are smart enough to recognized effort. It'll certainly be different from the one-liners (me too, I agree) type postings that litter the forum.

You don't have to take any advice from anyone, but if you're striving for comments and feedback on your articles or writing, you have an interesting method of encouragement :D

-dave

U wont be serious Pemuda.Tell me u wont.

Yes, I will go bald 100%. And I will run around my neighbourhood totally naked. I will sacrifice myself should no Malaysian shuttlers win the coming National GP in Kedah.

It is time for our national shuttlers win something and the National GP is a good place to start. We must win it at all cost and I am confident we can do so.

Lets win the National GP for Malaysia and show China, Indonesia, Denmark, Japan, South Korea that we are really gonna send them packing in Beijing.

Malaysia Boleh!

Yes, I will go bald 100%. And I will run around my neighbourhood totally naked. I will sacrifice myself should no Malaysian shuttlers win the coming National GP in Kedah.

It is time for our national shuttlers win something and the National GP is a good place to start. We must win it at all cost and I am confident we can do so.

Lets win the National GP for Malaysia and show China, Indonesia, Denmark, Japan, South Korea that we are really gonna send them packing in Beijing.

Malaysia Boleh!
i got nothing to say then.
Lets see what happen.

Problem with u is u never want to asked why.Why rexy n bam did that statement.At this point,we have to do everything in order to have fresh new kkk/tbh.National grand prix should be a tour for juniors.
Wch/wmc/hafiz are out.What kkk/tbh are doing in kedah then?
To be nobody once again.

i got nothing to say then.
Lets see what happen.

Problem with u is u never want to asked why.Why rexy n bam did that statement.At this point,we have to do everything in order to have fresh new kkk/tbh.National grand prix should be a tour for juniors.
Wch/wmc/hafiz are out.What kkk/tbh are doing in kedah then?
To be nobody once again.

Yes, I think it is better you be silent.

Me linking is not to improve readership count. It was to elaborate on what I meant. I linked it because not everyone wants to know more about it. I could have posted the whole thing here, but I didn't, because if people were interested, they could click on it and get linked to the news source/my views at the same time. If they had no interest, they could just skip it instead of being confronted by a large amount of text. This is the purpose of linking texts 'surreptitiously', you know.

Pray tell, what personal gain do I achieve from increased readership apart from personal satisfaction?

Bit rich of you to lecture me on writing quality articles. Try writing quality posts that relate to the thread before you open your gab. If I make your blood boil, ignore me. I know I will ignore you.

This is what Cantonese speaking people call: ng tong hei.
Don't usually concur with your views but you write very well;rather engaging and energising style.Guess you can be a doctor-cum-columnist in future. Do keep at it and don't lose your enthusiasm.

Yes, I think it is better you be silent.
Am i hurting u now?
I didnt mean anything.

So,will rexy take kkk/tbh in kedah as an improvement?
Any press statement by our beloved coach?

So,will rexy take kkk/tbh in kedah as an improvement?
Any press statement by our beloved coach?

If I were their coach, I will say that they must take their win and build on it as a motivation to the players.