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badMania
03-08-2008, 11:32 AM
MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan [1] vs Chen Jin [4] -- honestly, depends on Li Yongbo. Which is more important to him....Olympics points to ensure Chen Jin's qualification, or another AE title to Lin Dan's collection. At this point, I think Chen Jin's qualification is more important :cool:

MEN'S DOUBLES
Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man vs Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae [6] -- an All-Korean Final which will please Ha Tae Kwon. A repeat of last week's Final and I think Jung/Lee will be given the honour of winning the All-England title.

WOMEN'S SINGLES
Tine Rasmussen vs Lu Lan [3] -- a crucial match for China's WS. Will it be 3 out of 3 for Tine? I have a feeling she can deliver!

WOMEN'S DOUBLES
Du Jing/Yu Yang [3] vs Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jung [4] -- for the first time for quite some time, we have a non-Chinese WD entering the Final. Could Lee/Lee create history by beating 3 Chinese pairs in a row? I think Du/Yu are still superior to them.

MIXED DOUBLES
Zheng Bo/Gao Ling [1] vs Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir [2] -- MATCH OF THE DAY. Yes, the big match...hopefully the first match of the Final. Tough to call for this one...expected to be a very tight and close match, probably lasting the distance. Both pairs are not that stable lately....although Zheng/Gao probably have that slight slight edge. However, I hope Nova/Butet can triumph once more!

kenny7_2006
03-08-2008, 11:35 AM
Chen Jin to win his maiden AE title after the way he played against LCW just now in the SF...

Yong Dae-Jae Sung to win the doubles' title due to their better experience... esp LYD....

robin7
03-08-2008, 11:43 AM
It would be interesting to see CHN going home with only one title. But I predict CHN will grab at least 2 titles (MS, WD or XD).

sumbadder
03-08-2008, 11:46 AM
MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan [1] vs Chen Jin [4] -- Agree with madBad.

MEN'S DOUBLES
Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man vs Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae [6] -- [50-50] Seriously?? Again?? The KOR pairs are incredibly lucky. They've completely benefited from the upsets of their main competition in the forms of CY/FHF, KKK/TBH, MK/HS, TG/CW who are the only pairs who are capable of beating them handily. I'd say Jung/Lee will 'lose' or win depending on how KOR values seedings in the OG.

WOMEN'S SINGLES
Tine Rasmussen vs Lu Lan [3] -- [70-30] I'd like to pick Lu Lan but Tine just seems too hot to handle for the little Chinese women. Her power and range really push them all over the place and make it hard for them to produce winners. There's a small chance that LL could do it given her fighting spirit and sheer determination alone.

WOMEN'S DOUBLES
Du Jing/Yu Yang [3] vs Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jung [4] -- [60-40] After the Lee's killed YW/ZJW's hopes of finally getting the AE title, one could argue they are in high form to nab the title themselves. But the younger CHN pairs often deal with the Lee's a lot better than YW/ZJW who have more and more been dragged into grueling 3 setters recently. I'd say unless KOR pulls off some amazing defense, they'll have no way of stopping the tomboys. This definitely marks a changing of the guards and style of WD. LKW/LHJ & YW/ZJW are the last of the older generation's less aggressive style.

MIXED DOUBLES
Zheng Bo/Gao Ling [1] vs Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir [2] -- [55-45] Definitely match of the day and it all depends on who wakes up on the right side of the bed. Last year the IO saw the INA pair at a loss of doing anything right while the HKO saw ZB/GL make a ridiculous amount of errors. Whoever plays cleaner will definitely take this match as they are on very even levels.

F-38-I
03-08-2008, 12:40 PM
Just in this AE 08 I'm very interesting to watch WS, WD, and especially XD final. I used to watch MS & MD.
I pick Tine, Lee/Lee, Nova/Butet, Lin Dan, Jung/Lee.
Ok, that's not prediction, just they are being my fave for tomorrow final.

ye333
03-08-2008, 02:00 PM
MS:
LD - CJ: 50-50. (If no match-fixing, LD - CJ 99-1. )

MD:
JJS/LYD - LJJ/HJM: 60 - 40.

WD:
DJ/YY - LKW/LHJ: 51 - 49.

WS:

I have no idea.

XD:

Nova/Butet - Zheng/Gao: 51 - 49. This differs from everyone else so I would like to explain a bit. I was surprised by Nova/Butet's performance today, they seem confident and fit. They have slight advantage when playing against Zheng/Gao since last year's WC, even in the Japan open final it's them who dominated the game before Nova ran out of gas. On the other hand, if Zheng/Gao's first game against Xie/Zhang indicates anything, it's that they are not in top form.

jack200603
03-08-2008, 02:20 PM
Lin Dan [1] vs Chen Jin [4] -- honestly, depends on Li Yongbo. Which is more important to him....Olympics points to ensure Chen Jin's qualification, or another AE title to Lin Dan's collection. At this point, I think Chen Jin's qualification is more important :cool:

Chen Jin has earned enough points for OG qualifications after securing a final place today.

ye333
03-08-2008, 02:22 PM
Is that so? He doesn't need to do well in Swiss open?

Chen Jin has earned enough points for OG qualifications after securing a final place today.

Dreamzz
03-08-2008, 02:30 PM
i reckon he still needs to do well in the swiss, he won it last year and so could lose most of the 9200 points he got there if he crashes out early.

but certainly winning tomorrow will not hurt his cause.

ye333
03-08-2008, 02:33 PM
Also I think TH earned quite some points by reaching QF? I am not sure CJ is that safe.

i reckon he still needs to do well in the swiss, he won it last year and so could lose most of the 9200 points he got there if he crashes out early.

but certainly winning tomorrow will not hurt his cause.

Dreamzz
03-08-2008, 02:43 PM
i think CJ is pretty safe though, TH, KJ and SDK lost in the QF, LHI lost in R1 and PG is out injured so he has picked up a lot more points than his closest rivals this time.

ye333
03-08-2008, 02:55 PM
But don't forget TH literally has no points from last year's AE and Swiss (I don't know about Sony). So any points he get, he may get them all. While CJ reached SF in last year's AE and won last year's Swiss.

Just checked, TH is behind CJ by about 4000 pts. But an AE 5-8 gives him 5040 pts, if he does not need to deduct much ( I doubt he need), the gap may become smaller after AE I guess?

i think CJ is pretty safe though, TH, KJ and SDK lost in the QF, LHI lost in R1 and PG is out injured so he has picked up a lot more points than his closest rivals this time.

jamesd20
03-08-2008, 03:15 PM
I really don't think CJ getting enough points for OG is an Issue.

I also disagree with KOR MD pairs being lucky to be in the final. LJJ/HJM beat TG/CW hands down, with no element of luck & LYD/JJS have beaten CTF/LWW and a good DEN pair.

Over the past few years their defences and attacks have improved tremendously. There defences are now one of the best. Their attacks are still not quite strong enough and this is their weakness.

Wong8Egg
03-08-2008, 04:11 PM
MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan [1] vs Chen Jin [4] -- Agree with madBad.

MEN'S DOUBLES
Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man vs Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae [6] -- [50-50] Seriously?? Again?? The KOR pairs are incredibly lucky. They've completely benefited from the upsets of their main competition in the forms of CY/FHF, KKK/TBH, MK/HS, TG/CW who are the only pairs who are capable of beating them handily. I'd say Jung/Lee will 'lose' or win depending on how KOR values seedings in the OG.

WOMEN'S SINGLES
Tine Rasmussen vs Lu Lan [3] -- [70-30] I'd like to pick Lu Lan but Tine just seems too hot to handle for the little Chinese women. Her power and range really push them all over the place and make it hard for them to produce winners. There's a small chance that LL could do it given her fighting spirit and sheer determination alone.

WOMEN'S DOUBLES
Du Jing/Yu Yang [3] vs Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jung [4] -- [60-40] After the Lee's killed YW/ZJW's hopes of finally getting the AE title, one could argue they are in high form to nab the title themselves. But the younger CHN pairs often deal with the Lee's a lot better than YW/ZJW who have more and more been dragged into grueling 3 setters recently. I'd say unless KOR pulls off some amazing defense, they'll have no way of stopping the tomboys. This definitely marks a changing of the guards and style of WD. LKW/LHJ & YW/ZJW are the last of the older generation's less aggressive style.

MIXED DOUBLES
Zheng Bo/Gao Ling [1] vs Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir [2] -- [55-45] Definitely match of the day and it all depends on who wakes up on the right side of the bed. Last year the IO saw the INA pair at a loss of doing anything right while the HKO saw ZB/GL make a ridiculous amount of errors. Whoever plays cleaner will definitely take this match as they are on very even levels.

Calling the Korean MD lucky is a little bit unfair, I do believe they have the skills to take out any of the top pairs, and I think LYD especially is improving so much.

Just like we wouldn't call Tine is lucky just because ZN and XXF was taken out at first round.

As for my prediction:
LD
Tine
LYD/JJS
ZB/GL
LKW/LHJ (Crossing my fingers on this one :p)

jamesd20
03-08-2008, 04:27 PM
As for my prediction:
LD
Tine
LYD/JJS
ZB/GL
LKW/LHJ (Crossing my fingers on this one :p)

My Predictions are exactly the same.......

F-38-I
03-08-2008, 05:53 PM
Yup, in the sport, there's no lucky unlucky, but that's the way to be champion! Bravo KOR!
LYD deserves to win. I think he can be a model and an actor like RAIN if not playing bdmtn anymore.

sumbadder
03-08-2008, 06:21 PM
I dunno, I just think that based off their results at the start of the season the KOR pairs still aren't at the same level as the top 4. I seem to be in the wrong but just my .02. I don't doubt that they're good/have improved a lot and that they're champions, but I do question if they would be here had the top 3 seeds not been shocked out. Obviously in the end the results are what speaks the loudest and they got them so yeah.

huangkwokhau
03-08-2008, 06:37 PM
CJ position is not safe at all...He needs to win AE as well as Swiss in order to maintain no.4 position...as TH did not participate and TH can earnmore points if he decides to go to India or ABC championship.....

ye333
03-08-2008, 07:33 PM
Of course whether TH would prefer a Top4 position is questionable. On the other hand, Sony definitely would dream to occupy No. 4 position. :D

CJ position is not safe at all...He needs to win AE as well as Swiss in order to maintain no.4 position...as TH did not participate and TH can earnmore points if he decides to go to India or ABC championship.....

badMania
03-08-2008, 07:58 PM
Chen Jin has earned enough points for OG qualifications after securing a final place today.

Chen Jin NEEDS TO DEFEND 15620 Points earned last year.

His victory today earns him 9200 pts, which means he has to enter at least the Semi-Final again to make sure he still stays in his 4th spot.

If Lin Dan were to win today, then all the more that Chen Jin needs to go at least to the Final again next week.

Han
03-08-2008, 08:08 PM
I really don't think CJ getting enough points for OG is an Issue.

I also disagree with KOR MD pairs being lucky to be in the final. LJJ/HJM beat TG/CW hands down, with no element of luck & LYD/JJS have beaten CTF/LWW and a good DEN pair.

Over the past few years their defences and attacks have improved tremendously. There defences are now one of the best. Their attacks are still not quite strong enough and this is their weakness.

The Koreans are very good, very traditional style and earn their wins the old fashion way. They remind me Kim Dong Moon/Ha Tae Kwan, no fancy shot but pure raw power and speed which is in direct constrast with KKK/TBH. I expect the Koreans to do well in coming tournaments as they grow more mature.
Also, don't over-look the up coming Japanese pairs, I got the kick of it when Rexy said KKK/TBH lost because KKK was to eager to revenge and win? I think the Malaysian coaching staffs should recognize there are quite a few pairs out there in par with our ace and they are hungrier.

huangkwokhau
03-08-2008, 09:11 PM
Of course whether TH would prefer a Top4 position is questionable. On the other hand, Sony definitely would dream to occupy No. 4 position. :D
I forgot that KJhas a chance to be number 4 also...depnding how well he plays Swiss and European championship...

avieee
03-08-2008, 09:28 PM
MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan [1] vs Chen Jin [4] -- Yes,i agree, I think Chen Jin's qualification is more important to Li yongbo.:p

MEN'S DOUBLES
i have no idea...:confused:

WOMEN'S SINGLES
Tine Rasmussen vs Lu Lan [3] -- crossing my fingers~~~:D

WOMEN'S DOUBLES
Du Jing/Yu Yang [3] vs Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jung [4] -- Im sure they can do it~~~:D

MIXED DOUBLES
Zheng Bo/Gao Ling [1] vs Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir [2] --sure thing~~~:D

madbad
03-08-2008, 09:42 PM
MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan [1] vs Chen Jin [4] -- Yes,i agree, I think Chen Jin's qualification is more important to Li yongbo.:p

MEN'S DOUBLES
i have no idea...:confused:

WOMEN'S SINGLES
Tine Rasmussen vs Lu Lan [3] -- crossing my fingers~~~:D

WOMEN'S DOUBLES
Du Jing/Yu Yang [3] vs Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jung [4] -- Im sure they can do it~~~:D

MIXED DOUBLES
Zheng Bo/Gao Ling [1] vs Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir [2] --sure thing~~~:D

Is this your prediction or wish? :rolleyes::cool:

huangkwokhau
03-08-2008, 09:47 PM
I do not think ZB/GL is a sure thing yet....they have struggled from first 2 rounds....I think it is 50-50

Ferrerkiko
03-08-2008, 09:52 PM
Dear bros:

Bros here , know which racket is lin dan using now , it seems like the the Arcssaber that is red color ?

thanks!

Birdwood
03-08-2008, 09:52 PM
Is this your prediction or wish? :rolleyes::cool:

Missed your comments at SF, how did your PAW fair?

huangkwokhau
03-08-2008, 10:02 PM
I have looked at the women ranking...
It seems that XXF and Lu lan are safe for now.

Zhu lin is number 5 ( belwon WC), since she lost 2nd round and she lost more points she was semifinalist.
Zhang ning is in position 2 and has more points to defend as winner of swiis and semifinalist ( right now she has 74000 poins)

Tine is who ranks number 9 with 53200 points, can bounch her to 5 or 6 if she wins today and if she does well again next week, she may have chance to be number 4 ( Tine did not play last year)...meanwhile if ZN does not do well or lose in qtr or below in swiis, she can find herself to number 7 position..or worse

LuLan needs to be reach RU or win in order to maintain her numner3 or 2 position in Swiss


Zhu Lin, meanwhile, needs to reach semifinal to be Olympic contender as she lost to Lili in 1st round last year.

huangkwokhau
03-08-2008, 10:02 PM
Missed your comments at SF, how did your PAW fair?
...cough..cough..hm..tough for defending champion.....:D:D

madbad
03-08-2008, 10:04 PM
Missed your comments at SF, how did your PAW fair?

Not too good, 2 of 4. LCW let me down. I'm afraid I will struggle to win now. Need a lot of luck. Thanks for checking :). I will PAW later for the finals.

madbad
03-08-2008, 10:05 PM
...cough..cough..hm..tough for defending champion.....:D:D

Not enough support from you, hauge. You poisoned me :D:D;)

huangkwokhau
03-08-2008, 10:12 PM
Not enough support from you, hauge. You poisoned me :D:D;)
:D:D .......mine is far...far..worst....:crying::crying::crying:

geebees90
03-08-2008, 10:27 PM
I'm sure Lin Dan is going to beat CJ in straight Games......Lee Chong wei seemed really slow yesterday, I thought he would CJ in straight games the way he played taufik in quarters. from the back court his strokes were unreadable. But in the semis he didn't use his tricky soft drops and smashes.

CJ yet doesn't have enough courage and Skills to beat Lin dan. He's still 30% behind Lin dan.

Genesis
03-08-2008, 10:57 PM
I'm sure Lin Dan is going to beat CJ in straight Games......Lee Chong wei seemed really slow yesterday, I thought he would CJ in straight games the way he played taufik in quarters. from the back court his strokes were unreadable. But in the semis he didn't use his tricky soft drops and smashes.

CJ yet doesn't have enough courage and Skills to beat Lin dan. He's still 30% behind Lin dan.

LD may be more than capable of beating CJ, but it doesn't work that way when you play for China :rolleyes:

tofu007
03-08-2008, 11:02 PM
I really want to watch this online live, anyone know any site that i can watch? Thanks

robin7
03-08-2008, 11:18 PM
Chen Jin NEEDS TO DEFEND 15620 Points earned last year.

His victory today earns him 9200 pts, which means he has to enter at least the Semi-Final again to make sure he still stays in his 4th spot.

If Lin Dan were to win today, then all the more that Chen Jin needs to go at least to the Final again next week.
That means it would be (champion + SF) or (F + F). That's tough for CJ but not impossible with a little help from his teammates.

I have looked at the women ranking...
It seems that XXF and Lu lan are safe for now.

Zhu lin is number 5 ( belwon WC), since she lost 2nd round and she lost more points she was semifinalist.
Zhang ning is in position 2 and has more points to defend as winner of swiis and semifinalist ( right now she has 74000 poins)

Tine is who ranks number 9 with 53200 points, can bounch her to 5 or 6 if she wins today and if she does well again next week, she may have chance to be number 4 ( Tine did not play last year)...meanwhile if ZN does not do well or lose in qtr or below in swiis, she can find herself to number 7 position..or worse

LuLan needs to be reach RU or win in order to maintain her numner3 or 2 position in Swiss

Zhu Lin, meanwhile, needs to reach semifinal to be Olympic contender as she lost to Lili in 1st round last year.
Wow, it would be interesting to see someone like Tine to squeeze the CHN players out of top 4 position. I think Tine has a good chance of doing that.

pjswift
03-09-2008, 12:12 AM
I really don't think CJ getting enough points for OG is an Issue.

I also disagree with KOR MD pairs being lucky to be in the final. LJJ/HJM beat TG/CW hands down, with no element of luck & LYD/JJS have beaten CTF/LWW and a good DEN pair.

Over the past few years their defences and attacks have improved tremendously. There defences are now one of the best. Their attacks are still not quite strong enough and this is their weakness.
CJ getting the 3rd MS slot in OG08 is crucial to LD winning the OG gold.Some 90% of LD's titles come from having a CHN MS meeting him in the SF or Final. If CJ cannot qualify for OG, LD's SF easy passage option evaporates and what are the chances of BCL making the final? Of course, luck can be on LD's side if the draw puts LCW, LHI and TH in the other half. That can happen.Unless TH or LHI qualifies for OG08 at No.4 since OG08 has nationality separation as a criterion , unlike SS.
I agree with you the KOR MDs didn't win through luck.NSS does not favour top seeds but those with at least more than decent skills and superb, relevant preparations.The KOR MDs have both. The tops seeds have excellent skills but what's the point when you are caught napping?

pjswift
03-09-2008, 12:19 AM
Of course whether TH would prefer a Top4 position is questionable. On the other hand, Sony definitely would dream to occupy No. 4 position. :D
He has to work very hard for that and it makes no difference to him because meeting either LCW or LD is equally tough. The only reason for him to bother is to have the satisfaction of making it tougher for LD and easier for LCW.Expect him to couldn't care less.

ctjcad
03-09-2008, 12:19 AM
MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan [1] vs Chen Jin [4] -- Agree with madBad.
...
..hmm, so far i see badMania's preview & i'm still looking for madbad's preview...anyone else looking for madbad's review??..:confused:*scratches head*..madbad, are you gonna do your own preview for us??..:confused: :cool:
*pulling sumbadder's legs*..;)

pjswift
03-09-2008, 12:29 AM
CJ position is not safe at all...He needs to win AE as well as Swiss in order to maintain no.4 position...as TH did not participate and TH can earnmore points if he decides to go to India or ABC championship.....
Agree. Did you count the points starting from SPO07? Because that's the first OQP(Olympic Qualifying Points) tournament.I expect this year's ABC to be a real ABC.CJ would definitely turn up and I wouldn't be surprised if LD and BCL enter as well.

pjswift
03-09-2008, 12:34 AM
I forgot that KJhas a chance to be number 4 also...depnding how well he plays Swiss and European championship...
KJ would at least reach EBC finals and I hope he defeats PG for the first time.

robin7
03-09-2008, 12:34 AM
I really don't think CJ getting enough points for OG is an Issue.
Kindly do some research before making such statement. Anyway, I like your reviews though.:)

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 12:35 AM
Also, don't over-look the up coming Japanese pairs, I got the kick of it when Rexy said KKK/TBH lost because KKK was to eager to revenge and win? I think the Malaysian coaching staffs should recognize there are quite a few pairs out there in par with our ace and they are hungrier.

Rexy also said the Japanese played "exceptionally well". From the Semis yesterday & others I've watched, technically the Japanese pairs (including Othsuka/Masuda) arent as good as the top 3 seeds.

The koreans too, our uncles CTF/LWW are technically superior but as usual uncle CTF got nervous....

madbad
03-09-2008, 12:35 AM
..hmm, so far i see badMania's preview & i'm still looking for madbad's preview...anyone else looking for madbad's review??..:confused:*scratches head*..madbad, are you gonna do your own preview for us??..:confused: :cool:
*pulling sumbadder's legs*..;)

Hey, I just spotted that too! :D:D. Poor Badmania, being called madbad. Preview to follow

madbad
03-09-2008, 12:38 AM
Rexy also said the Japanese played "exceptionally well". From the Semis yesterday & others I've watched, technically the Japanese pairs (including Othsuka/Masuda) arent as good as the top 3 seeds.

The koreans too, our uncles CTF/LWW are technically superior but as usual uncle CTF got nervous....

It's been exhibited time and time again by CTF/LWW that they cannot close the deal on big tournaments. To blow 5 match points is a dinosaur-sized choke.

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 12:52 AM
It's been exhibited time and time again by CTF/LWW that they cannot close the deal on big tournaments. To blow 5 match points is a dinosaur-sized choke.

Yup, now they reach 'uncle' age, hard to change habit. I pity LWW, he had to cover for his partner at times. Rexy said bf they have this prob when playing in Semis & Finals, Rexy didnt want Zakry/Fairuz to go the same route, I call it the nervous disease.

madbad
03-09-2008, 12:54 AM
MS
If there is no LYB interference, I expect a pretty straightforward LD win. Something like 21-17, 21-18. LD carries that intimidation factor and CJ is most definitely the "little brother". Only LYB knows at this moment.

WS
Lu Lan's path to the final has been pretty fortuitious. Tine has had to work harder but handled all before her with confidence. She's looking good, is fitter than Lu and will have the full support of the local crowd (save the CHN fans, I would imagine). Tine to win in straight games.

MD
Well, this is as obvious as it gets. After gifting Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man the mickey mouse :D German Open, it's time for the senior pair to lay claim to the prestigious one. Fixed or not, Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae will win.

WD
Interesting that LYB would sacrifice Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen so that the tougher, meaner-looking :D Du/Yu can take on Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jung. This will be a battle of attrition full of fast, hard-hitting action. Some men's pair would be afraid to step on court with this quartet :D. When the dust settles, LYB will have made the right decision (a Du/Yu triumph) as all four leave with battle wounds.

XD
GL/ZB mean business now and must establish their authority over Nova/Butet before the OG. Don't get me wrong, the INA pair have done very well to reach the final and it will be competitive. However, I think Nova will crack first before ZB and this will decide the outcome. GL/ZB in 3 games.

ctjcad
03-09-2008, 12:57 AM
...that's what i call, madbad's preview...;) :cool:
*still pulling sumbadder's legs* :p

Krisna
03-09-2008, 12:59 AM
With the recent ascent of the Korean MD in German Open and All England, this year's MD Olympic Games will be a very tough contest!
Kido-Hendra 20% chance
Cai-Fu 20% chance
KKK-TBH 20% chance
LYD-JJS 15% chance
Japanese pairs 10% chance
Danish pairs 10% chance
Others 5% chance

Krisna
03-09-2008, 01:00 AM
I still think Lili-Nova will win... in 2 straight games, actually!

pjswift
03-09-2008, 01:01 AM
Rexy also said the Japanese played "exceptionally well". From the Semis yesterday & others I've watched, technically the Japanese pairs (including Othsuka/Masuda) arent as good as the top 3 seeds.

The koreans too, our uncles CTF/LWW are technically superior but as usual uncle CTF got nervous....
Actually I am rather impressed with ctf/lww's performance even though they lost.They managed to rise above a sloppy start and stretch the much younger(yet experienced), faster,better prepared KOR MD.It was unfortunate that LYD was the one to receive and serve during the 4 match points.He was clearly trained to take charge during crucial points.Jung wouldn't have survived; not for 4 CONSECUTIVE MP.
MAS uncles just need to fix one problem;the closing.There are so many effective closing options for them to train up, given their excellent skills.Fix that and I'm confident they will win their first meaningful title.
Like they say,one small change can make the biggest difference.

madbad
03-09-2008, 01:02 AM
I still think Lili-Nova will win... in 2 straight games, actually!

Of course you would ;):D

cooler
03-09-2008, 01:03 AM
MS
If there is no LYB interference, I expect a pretty straightforward LD win. Something like 21-17, 21-18. LD carries that intimidation factor and CJ is most definitely the "little brother". Only LYB knows at this moment.

WS
Lu Lan's path to the final has been pretty fortuitious. Tine has had to work harder but handled all before her with confidence. She's looking good, is fitter than Lu and will have the full support of the local crowd (save the CHN fans, I would imagine). Tine to win in straight games.

MD
Well, this is as obvious as it gets. After gifting Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man the mickey mouse :D German Open, it's time for the senior pair to lay claim to the prestigious one. Fixed or not, Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae will win.

WD
Interesting that LYB would sacrifice Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen so that the tougher, meaner-looking :D Du/Yu can take on Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jung. This will be a battle of attrition full of fast, hard-hitting action. Some men's pair would be afraid to step on court with this quartet :D. When the dust settles, LYB will have made the right decision (a Du/Yu triumph) as all four leave with battle wounds.

XD
GL/ZB mean business now and must establish their authority over Nova/Butet before the OG. Don't get me wrong, the INA pair have done very well to reach the final and it will be competitive. However, I think Nova will crack first before ZB and this will decide the outcome. GL/ZB in 3 games.i would pick all those too if i had some PAW room left...

madbad
03-09-2008, 01:07 AM
i would pick all those too if i had some PAW room left...

cooler (and fellow Canucks), don't forget to put your clock forward ;)

ctjcad
03-09-2008, 01:16 AM
cooler (and fellow Canucks), don't forget to put your clock forward ;)
...i was hoping someone would keep quiet so i can watch the webcast all by myself without any lagging...now the whole BC will wake up in time to watch it..

madbad
03-09-2008, 01:20 AM
...i was hoping someone would keep quiet so i can watch the webcast all by myself without any lagging...now the whole BC will wake up in time to watch it..

Ooooops :D:D:D:D;);)

jasonmarc
03-09-2008, 01:20 AM
Really funny....when come to prediction of a match between two Chn players.......all of us...would say..who to wins...depends on how LYB decides.............not depend on who is in better form.......

pjswift
03-09-2008, 01:22 AM
It's been exhibited time and time again by CTF/LWW that they cannot close the deal on big tournaments. To blow 5 match points is a dinosaur-sized choke.
It's not a choke. It's a clear sign that there's a glaring gap in the training. Rexy might be a fantastic coach but there are some gaps he needs to plug.The sooner he stops labelling his players ,the better for him and the results.It's time that Rexy takes a good look at his own shortcoming and improve on it.(Having said that, I would still vote him my favourite coach)

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 01:22 AM
Actually I am rather impressed with ctf/lww's performance even though they lost.They managed to rise above a sloppy start and stretch the much younger(yet experienced), faster,better prepared KOR MD.It was unfortunate that LYD was the one to receive and serve during the 4 match points.He was clearly trained to take charge during crucial points.Jung wouldn't have survived; not for 4 CONSECUTIVE MP.
MAS uncles just need to fix one problem;the closing.There are so many effective closing options for them to train up, given their excellent skills.Fix that and I'm confident they will win their first meaningful title.
Like they say,one small change can make the biggest difference.

LOL, they should have picked you for Yap KH's spokesperson. Yap said the same thing - the uncles need to work on the minor weakness. This year is their final year in play, they dont have many more chances.

Just that they can play better than that - if not, how they manage to beat Fu/Cai, Kido/Setiawan (not at WC, at French Open I think) last year.
After so many years, still cannot overcome the mental block. Hope the sports psychologists can do some good.

Maybe for TC in May, uncle Lee should partner KKK or TBH for some matches, see if it's better for them.

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 01:31 AM
Ooooops :D:D:D:D;);)

I thought it's too early for you. Will you be around today :confused:

madbad
03-09-2008, 01:36 AM
It's not a choke. It's a clear sign that there's a glaring gap in the training. Rexy might be a fantastic coach but there are some gaps he needs to plug.The sooner he stops labelling his players ,the better for him and the results.It's time that Rexy takes a good look at his own shortcoming and improve on it.(Having said that, I would still vote him my favourite coach)

I believe it's a mental thing. These guys are veterans. Don't you think they'd have learned to deal with it during their countless hours of training over the years? Their malaise has been both pre and post Rexy, so you can't blame him alone for that. I honestly think they have to adjust their mental make up in order to allow them to play the critical points freely.

Ironically, All-England finals day is Rexy's birthday ;)

pjswift
03-09-2008, 01:37 AM
LOL, they should have picked you for Yap KH's spokesperson. Yap said the same thing - the uncles need to work on the minor weakness. This year is their final year in play, they dont have many more chances.

Just that they can play better than that - if not, how they manage to beat Fu/Cai, Kido/Setiawan (not at WC, at French Open I think) last year.
After so many years, still cannot overcome the mental block. Hope the sports psychologists can do some good.

Maybe for TC in May, uncle Lee should partner KKK or TBH for some matches, see if it's better for them.
That problem is not the sports shrink's job. It's Rexy's.It's called "Training to close out a match".Some players like KKK need less while some need more but all players will benefit from it. LYD definitely was trained very well for closing.

madbad
03-09-2008, 01:37 AM
I thought it's too early for you. Will you be around today :confused:

I hope so, 7:30 am. That's manageable. No partying tonight ;):D

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 01:53 AM
...i was hoping someone would keep quiet so i can watch the webcast all by myself without any lagging...now the whole BC will wake up in time to watch it..

Dont worry lah, Malaysians will be glued to their tv sets, either on Astro or RTM. Indonesia cable tv will also show. Those in England got Sky Sports.
Less ppl to share bandwidth with you;)

pjswift
03-09-2008, 01:55 AM
I believe it's a mental thing. These guys are veterans. Don't you think they'd have learned to deal with it during their countless hours of training over the years? Their malaise has been both pre and post Rexy, so you can't blame him alone for that. I honestly think they have to adjust their mental make up in order to allow them to play the critical points freely.

Ironically, All-England finals day is Rexy's birthday ;)
If you've done sales,you will get what I mean by training for a close.You train until you don't have to think about what to do or say to ask for the sale.It becomes so natural the prospect can buy without having to think.
Right now , I can think of an array of closing options that can be set up for that training segment that can increase MAS's chances of winning titles...

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 03:00 AM
A lot have been said about MSF. It seems most BCers expect LD to win with a margin from big to small. Some had suggested that IF CJ wins, it would have to be the involvement of LYB :rolleyes:

Have we actually consider the possibility of an upset by CJ to win his first AE title? Since the scores could be close, then the match can go either way, right? CJ did upset LCW yesterday in SF and proved from time to time he's no push-over. So why a possible win by CJ at the final has to be a match fix :confused:

I would expect a hard fought battle by the two players for the crown. Unexpected does happen, let's respect their efforts and the results as genuine unless proved otherwise :)

pjswift
03-09-2008, 03:06 AM
A lot have been said about MSF. It seems most BCers expect LD to win with a margin from big to small. Some had suggested that IF CJ wins, it would have to be the involvement of LYB :rolleyes:

Have we actually consider the possibility of an upset by CJ to win his first AE title? Since the scores could be close, then the match can go either way, right? CJ did upset LCW yesterday in SF and proved from time to time he's no push-over. So why a possible win by CJ at the final has to be a match fix :confused:

I would expect a hard fought battle by the two players for the crown. Unexpected does happen, let's respect their efforts and the results as genuine unless proved otherwise :)
I hope you're right that there will be a real match but don't be disappointed if there's a walkover or BadEx.And they need to conserve energy for SWO next week.

Smash-Tajam
03-09-2008, 03:15 AM
I hope you're right that there will be a real match but don't be disappointed if there's a walkover or BadEx.And they need to conserve energy for SWO next week.

ya lets blame LYB if we dont get to watch some real matches ! :mad:

Oldhand
03-09-2008, 03:22 AM
Ironically, All-England finals day is Rexy's birthday ;)
Let's look at the positive side.
His entire team is now free to join the party :p

pjswift
03-09-2008, 03:25 AM
Let's look at the positive side.
His entire team is now free to join the party :p
Yes, they can celebrate early!

madbad
03-09-2008, 03:27 AM
Let's look at the positive side.
His entire team is now free to join the party :p

Yes, they can celebrate early!

Unfortunately, not quite the party or celebration Rexy wanted ;)

badMania
03-09-2008, 03:30 AM
XD
GL/ZB mean business now and must establish their authority over Nova/Butet before the OG. Don't get me wrong, the INA pair have done very well to reach the final and it will be competitive. However, I think Nova will crack first before ZB and this will decide the outcome. GL/ZB in 3 games.

It depends...Nova did crack first in the Hong Kong Open Final, where his poor serves let the pair down in the closing stage of the first set, which ended up with the INA pair blowing a number of game pts. Luckily, he recovered and played quite well in the 3rd set to salvage the title for the INA pair.

Hopefully, the same thing happens today.

madbad
03-09-2008, 03:34 AM
It depends...Nova did crack first in the Hong Kong Open Final, where his poor serves let the pair down in the closing stage of the first set, which ended up with the INA pair blowing a number of game pts. Luckily, he recovered and played quite well in the 3rd set to salvage the title for the INA pair.

Hopefully, the same thing happens today.

We'll find out shortly. I think both GL and Butet anchor their respective teams. ZB can be a little out of sorts sometimes too.

luyi80
03-09-2008, 04:04 AM
If Nova is not dreaming, I predict NW/LN to win this...:rolleyes:

As for MS, agree with others, it all depend on The Great LYB...:mad:

Nowadays, WS become more interesting n unpredictable than MS, LL has an edge, but I think Tine will grab the title. ;)

Too bad that LWW/CTF crashed out yesterday. Last week was LJJ/HJM, this week, it'll be JJS/LYD! :cool:

WD, not too difficult to tell...is the in form DJ/YY...but I do hope LKW/LHJ create a surprise...:)

george@chongwei
03-09-2008, 04:17 AM
haizz...no malaysia player in the final..!!

jasonmarc
03-09-2008, 04:20 AM
haizz...no malaysia player in the final..!!

:D..to look at the positive side....No heart-stopping,...high blood pressure....for tonight.....:D:D:D....Good for your health;)

Felicia_txh
03-09-2008, 04:35 AM
My prediction
MS
LD vs CJ:60-40....I tink LD has the higher chance to grab the title compare to CJ...I hope CJ wil prove my prediction is wrong..

MD
LYD/JJS vs HJM/LJJ :70-30..

XD
Nova/lilyana vs Zheng/Gao:50-50.....

WS/WD
No comment..

huangkwokhau
03-09-2008, 05:02 AM
The last time that INA won XD was Christian/Imelda in 1979...so if Nova/Butet wins...it will be the first time after 29 years gap....

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 06:28 AM
Just wondering if players from AE 08 will go back to home countries first or straight to the next, Swiss Open 08?

huangkwokhau
03-09-2008, 06:29 AM
Just wondering if players from AE 08 will go back to home countries first or straight to the next, Swiss Open 08?
Mostly go straight to Swiss...MAS players will leave tomorrow night

badMania
03-09-2008, 06:30 AM
Just wondering if players from AE 08 will go back to home countries first or straight to the next, Swiss Open 08?

No question abt it, of course straight to the Swiss Open 2008 :cool:
It will start on Tuesday. Unless of course some players withdraw, then they go back for good.

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 06:31 AM
Is the match about to start soon? Why GD Sports is still showing basketball?

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 06:33 AM
No question abt it, of course straight to the Swiss Open 2008 :cool:
It will start on Tuesday. Unless of course some players withdraw, then they go back for good.

or Till next tourney, he he.
btw, how come you have to watch online streaming for AE? I thought HK cable tv got show.

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 06:36 AM
Is the match about to start soon? Why GD Sports is still showing basketball?

tsk, tsk, my friend, you too "kan Cheong". Starts 12.30 pm UK time, one more hour. Now only 11.36 UK time.
1st game is LD vs CJ <yawn>

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 06:40 AM
tsk, tsk, my friend, you too "kan Cheong". Starts 12.30 pm UK time, one more hour. Now only 11.36 UK time.
1st game is LD vs CJ <yawn>

You're right. We had time switched one hour forward this morning. Are you going to watch online or TV since no Mas players in the final?

d65up2
03-09-2008, 06:47 AM
Any of u guys in All England??? well I was there on Friday and yesterday took pics with all of team INA apart from Vita, Sony and Alven...btw Endang is soooo cute in real life.....well did u hear the INA support??? Richard Mainaky actually thanked us for the support

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 06:52 AM
You're right. We had time switched one hour forward this morning. Are you going to watch online or TV since no Mas players in the final?

Depends what my family members want to watch. They're not interested if no Msia player. Plus there's breaking news on Msia political situation since this elections has many surprises.
RTM only show at 1 pm uk time, so 1st half hour I'll be here, then tv for XD, after that :D depends whether I can wrestle the tv away. If not, me fly here again loh.
I'm most interested to watch GL/ZB vs Nova/Liliyana and China tomboys vs Korea ladies.

je5s1ca
03-09-2008, 06:53 AM
Any of u guys in All England??? well I was there on Friday and yesterday took pics with all of team INA apart from Vita, Sony and Alven...btw Endang is soooo cute in real life.....well did u hear the INA support??? Richard Mainaky actually thanked us for the support

Hey I was there as well on Saturday...yeah very little group of Indonesian fans...and we were allocated in wrong section of the arena by the PPI...
I think Saturday was a quieter than Friday ....

We went to the Indonesian hotel and met Nova, Hendra (not Setiawan, the other one) and Taufik lol...most of them were at Manchester watching Man U yesterday!

Isegrim
03-09-2008, 06:54 AM
which final will be the first today??
do you know about a special order?

bananakid
03-09-2008, 06:54 AM
A lot have been said about MSF. It seems most BCers expect LD to win with a margin from big to small. Some had suggested that IF CJ wins, it would have to be the involvement of LYB :rolleyes:

Have we actually consider the possibility of an upset by CJ to win his first AE title? Since the scores could be close, then the match can go either way, right? CJ did upset LCW yesterday in SF and proved from time to time he's no push-over. So why a possible win by CJ at the final has to be a match fix :confused:

I would expect a hard fought battle by the two players for the crown. Unexpected does happen, let's respect their efforts and the results as genuine unless proved otherwise :)

First of all, let me clarify one thing: I support all the good and stylish(actually look like an athlete type) players, and that includes Lin Dan and Chen Jin.

However, when you look at both LD and CJ in terms of skill, toughness, and speed... obviously LD is the better player and from past result, LD dominates CJ numerous times(team order or not). If they are to have a real match, there is no doubt LD has the advantage over CJ.

Also, don't forget that CJ's record against all his teammates(except for his juniors and Xia XZ) has been very poor. Without his coaches' advice in this AE final, I seriously believe Lin Dan has even more of an advantage going in this match due to his big match experience.

Also, LCW is no Lin Dan, there is no guarantee that if one can beat LCW, then one has a chance against Lin Dan. As proven before, even Hafiz defeated LCW last year, and he got slaughtered every time he met Lin Dan.:p

je5s1ca
03-09-2008, 06:59 AM
Hi was there on Saturday...apparently erhmm PPI who organized us (student from Manchester) allocated the supporters in the wrong section of the arena...I think what I heard most of Indo students went to see Friday Match...and I don't think many people will come today...
We went to the Indo players yesterday and met Nova, Hendra( the other one not Setiawan) and Taufik....most of the player were not there...
They were in Manchester watching Man U against Portsmouth...

Isegrim
03-09-2008, 07:00 AM
which final will be the first today??
do you know about a special order?

LI De Quan
03-09-2008, 07:08 AM
WD, not too difficult to tell...is the in form DJ/YY...but I do hope LKW/LHJ create a surprise...-------------------

CHINESE TAIPEI OPEN 2006 LEE/LEE beat TIAN Qing/PAN Pan,DU Jing/YU Yang and GAO Ling/HUANG Sui!
head to head record-----
WINNING RATIO - (JingDU - Yang (F)YU) 5 :3(Kyung WonLEE - Hyo JungLEE)

Jessica
03-09-2008, 07:09 AM
which final will be the first today??
do you know about a special order?
The final will start with MS match followed by XD,WS,WD and the last is MD

Isegrim
03-09-2008, 07:15 AM
thank you very much!

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 07:31 AM
which final will be the first today??
do you know about a special order?

http://tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=19511&y=2008&m=3&d=9

THEbaschti
03-09-2008, 07:37 AM
Hope to see a real MS Final battle now and no predestined LYB-result!
If CJ plays like yesterday, this could get real interesting

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 07:37 AM
:eek: red vs. blue.

Let me cheer for CJ today. Wish him the best of all the luck :D

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 07:38 AM
:eek: red vs. blue.

Let me cheer for CJ today. Wish him the best of all the luck :D

he he , yup cheer for underdog

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 07:40 AM
Shanghai Sports is so much clearer than GD Sports, dunno what happened to GD Sports quality

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 07:41 AM
Lagging in GD Sports comparing to LiveScore.

Smichz
03-09-2008, 07:41 AM
I know that LD would win this year's AE..but i don't want that.
I prefer CJ to win!!

Ok..the game has just begun..

Smichz
03-09-2008, 07:42 AM
CJ is leading 4 to 0..Good start!

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 07:42 AM
CJ get your smashes in, not out!

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 07:43 AM
CJ is leading 4 to 0..Good start!

You got it the other way around lah
3-5 LD lead

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 07:45 AM
This LD is acting or for real, so big reaction when he lose each pt, hmmmmmm

Smichz
03-09-2008, 07:45 AM
Attack,CJ..attack!!Beat LD out..please..Haha..More mistakes from LD..

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 07:46 AM
CJ hang in there and LD will get tired soon.

Smichz
03-09-2008, 07:47 AM
..oh yea..8 to 6 for CJ

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 07:47 AM
This LD is acting or for real, so big reaction when he lose each pt, hmmmmmm

They are more relaxed since the stake is not that high :rolleyes:

Smichz
03-09-2008, 07:48 AM
9-6!!Good defense by CJ!!

xt6666
03-09-2008, 07:49 AM
I bet LD will retire from this match soon...

Because of his knee

huangkwokhau
03-09-2008, 07:49 AM
too bad...CJ could not close it yet...11-9 for LD

Smichz
03-09-2008, 07:50 AM
O..O..10-9..LD's leading..

samuel882
03-09-2008, 07:50 AM
:eek: red vs. blue.

Let me cheer for CJ today. Wish him the best of all the luck :D
The REDS rule in EPL now, blues was far behind :rolleyes:

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 07:50 AM
add oil and gas, CJ, you can do it!

Smichz
03-09-2008, 07:51 AM
Oh my..Nice defense from LD!!11-9 for LD..

rhinovinda
03-09-2008, 07:51 AM
this is full of drama, we are watching lin dan as an actor, anyway lots of fun.

huangkwokhau
03-09-2008, 07:51 AM
smashed hard by CJ....12 all

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 07:51 AM
I bet LD will retire from this match soon...

Because of his knee

he he you is smart, no lah they will finish it.

samuel882
03-09-2008, 07:52 AM
Its like a practise match more than a final.

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 07:53 AM
LD is not playing 100% yet.

Smichz
03-09-2008, 07:53 AM
Nice..12-12..Jia you,CJ!!

huangkwokhau
03-09-2008, 07:54 AM
Dont see LD is trying so hard yet but still leading 15-14

Smichz
03-09-2008, 07:54 AM
LD is not attacking..can it be a good sign?

rhinovinda
03-09-2008, 07:54 AM
The worst all england final for men ever.

Smichz
03-09-2008, 07:55 AM
LD smash is out.15-15

pjswift
03-09-2008, 07:56 AM
I bet LD will retire from this match soon...

Because of his knee
Yeah, CJ can defeat LD because of his knee injury.Must be so hard to play badminton and act at the same time.

Louisa
03-09-2008, 07:56 AM
I guess LD will retire from the game, so pity him, injured still need to play.....seems like very painful...more serious than LCW during FO07...

Smichz
03-09-2008, 07:56 AM
CJ is hot!!SMash smash..16-15

rhinovinda
03-09-2008, 07:56 AM
okay, it will be over soon (retired) since CJ has difficulty to lead even though LD is not attacking at all.

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 07:56 AM
LD is not attacking..can it be a good sign?

He is leading, so no need to attack yet. Just to keep pace with CJ.

Smichz
03-09-2008, 07:57 AM
Awwww...LD's leading 18-17..Jia you,CJ!!!

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 07:58 AM
He is leading, so no need to attack yet. Just to keep pace with CJ.

CJ also not playing at full force. Relax only both of them

Smichz
03-09-2008, 07:59 AM
19-19!!Yeaaa....

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 08:00 AM
CJ also not playing at full force. Relax only both of them

At least CJ is trying to win with all his smashes.

Jessica
03-09-2008, 08:00 AM
Chen Jin play very good and offensive..He win the first game now..Hope he will win the title..

huangkwokhau
03-09-2008, 08:00 AM
CJ Won...I think CJ will take AE title to secure his number 4 position........

Smichz
03-09-2008, 08:00 AM
20-20!!!CJ!!!Come on!!win it CJ!!

Jessica
03-09-2008, 08:01 AM
I guess LD will retire from the game, so pity him, injured still need to play.....seems like very painful...more serious than LCW during FO07...
I don't think his injury is serius than LCW..:D:D:DBut he is full of weird action today..Really funny.:D

PlayaFromMalaya
03-09-2008, 08:01 AM
is lindan really having a knee injury....?

Smichz
03-09-2008, 08:01 AM
Yeea!!!CJ...won the first game..

leeyco78
03-09-2008, 08:01 AM
LD is not playing at his full force. He din attack much also, just toying around with strokes.... He definitely not want to win.... His mood dont look motivated also... there is one shot so obvious he purposely push it to out, when CJ serve.... What a wasted final... boring man!!

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 08:02 AM
At least CJ is trying to win with all his smashes.

Errrr, in training also they do like that.
It's obvious who's supposed to win, LD didnt go all out like he would if opponent is non China

samuel882
03-09-2008, 08:02 AM
Times to retired for LD....

badMania
03-09-2008, 08:02 AM
Chen Jin will take this one.....

samuel882
03-09-2008, 08:03 AM
Why out of sudden LD seems got knee injury ?????

huangkwokhau
03-09-2008, 08:03 AM
Suddenly Clark is talking about LD's knee.....not too exciting game yet..3-0

rhinovinda
03-09-2008, 08:03 AM
badminton sport has been spoiled with unfair action only just for the sake of nation and olympic point.

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 08:03 AM
Now I will switch over to support LD ;)

Attack with your lethal smashes!

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 08:03 AM
I don't think his injury is serius than LCW..:D:D:DBut he is full of weird action today..Really funny.:D

Yup, LD like no mood to play

Btw, today again you dont get to watch Astro? he he

Jessica
03-09-2008, 08:03 AM
Errrr, in training also they do like that.
It's obvious who's supposed to win, LD didnt go all out like he would if opponent is non China
Hmm..Chen Jin need more Olympic points..;);)Sigh..Such a waste..This final quite boring..:(

Smichz
03-09-2008, 08:03 AM
Both of the players r not in their top form anyway....

Isegrim
03-09-2008, 08:04 AM
lin dan is such an idiot.
look at his game today..
to many errors. he is so slow and plays without passion!

pjswift
03-09-2008, 08:05 AM
Actually it's the first time I realize that a knee injury can affect the arm movements. Did not see that in LCW's case. The injury must be more serious than LCW's.But LCW can still win FO07 with a knee injury...hmm ..maybe that's because he had the fortune of not meeting LD...

Smichz
03-09-2008, 08:05 AM
3-1..CJ leading

huangkwokhau
03-09-2008, 08:05 AM
If LD plays 100%..dont think CJ has a chance....sigh!

Jessica
03-09-2008, 08:05 AM
Don't know why Lin Dan like to fall down..

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 08:06 AM
Both of the players r not in their top form anyway....

It's called brotherly competition.

Smichz
03-09-2008, 08:06 AM
Looks like LYB told LD to give it away for CJ..so that CJ can go for olympic..

Jessica
03-09-2008, 08:06 AM
lin dan is such an idiot.
look at his game today..
to many errors. he is so slow and plays without passion!
Not idiot..He has to do so..;);)No choice..:rolleyes:

samuel882
03-09-2008, 08:06 AM
CJ seems to be shocked of LD poor game so far..

badMania
03-09-2008, 08:07 AM
The body languange is obvious....just like the one in Hong Kong Open SF, except that their roles are reversed only.

I won't be surprised if Lin Dan retires halfway through the second-set, citing injury.

dannyang
03-09-2008, 08:07 AM
lin dan is such an idiot.
look at his game today..
to many errors. he is so slow and plays without passion!

easy, man!
LD is like yesterday-version LCW, don't curse LCW.

xsakurax
03-09-2008, 08:08 AM
erm..looks like many prediction that chen jin will win the AE title are true...

Smichz
03-09-2008, 08:08 AM
Hehe..LD's not even trying hard to defense..moreover attack

rhinovinda
03-09-2008, 08:08 AM
CJ seems to be shocked of LD poor game so far..

LYB even shocked to see CJ still cannot get a win unless free points from LD.

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 08:08 AM
Actually it's the first time I realize that a knee injury can affect the arm movements. Did not see that in LCW's case. The injury must be more serious than LCW's.But LCW can still win FO07 with a knee injury...hmm ..maybe that's because he had the fortune of not meeting LD...

Oh ya kah? No that lah. LD not trying, not bothered, make it like injury very painful. LCW's knee injury during HK 2007 also very painful, after QF with PG his thigh & knee was full of ice packs & he was grimacing in pain, but LCW mask it during match.

huangkwokhau
03-09-2008, 08:08 AM
LD will play Swiss Open.....I think CJ needs more points...

george@chongwei
03-09-2008, 08:08 AM
looks like chen jin is gonna win this game..

PlayaFromMalaya
03-09-2008, 08:09 AM
Actually it's the first time I realize that a knee injury can affect the arm movements. Did not see that in LCW's case. The injury must be more serious than LCW's.But LCW can still win FO07 with a knee injury...hmm ..maybe that's because he had the fortune of not meeting LD...

what injury are u talking about? its so obvious this match is fixed..sigh..china..

george@chongwei
03-09-2008, 08:09 AM
chen jin leading 11-6 now..interval...

Smichz
03-09-2008, 08:09 AM
2nd game,9-4..CJ leading!!

george@chongwei
03-09-2008, 08:09 AM
lin dan`s smash is very powerful

je5s1ca
03-09-2008, 08:09 AM
Is this a practice game ;)? What's wrong with Lin Dan?

THEbaschti
03-09-2008, 08:09 AM
this is hilarious...or sad...if LCW would have won yesterday we'd see a great match now that could actually be called "final"

Jessica
03-09-2008, 08:10 AM
Oh ya kah? No that lah. LD not trying, not bothered, make it like injury very painful. LCW's knee injury during HK 2007 also very painful, after QF with PG his thigh & knee was full of ice packs & he was grimacing in pain, but LCW mask it during match.
Ya..You all really think Lin Dan injury???:confused::confused:To me,he is not trying hard for the shot and just play casually..Seriously,i don't think his injury is that serious..;):rolleyes:

leeyco78
03-09-2008, 08:10 AM
even the commentator said LD is not at his best and giving chances, coz its obvious..and also they are like brothers.... if this match is played by LCW, it will be fantastic..

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 08:10 AM
looks like chen jin is gonna win this game..

Straight games...

sepang
03-09-2008, 08:10 AM
LD seems to play in passive mode..unlike his style

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 08:10 AM
easy, man!
LD is like yesterday-version LCW, don't curse LCW.

LYB even shocked to see CJ still cannot get a win unless free points from LD.

No that, CJ thinking, 'my senior injured, attack or not attack', think, think.... he he

rhinovinda
03-09-2008, 08:10 AM
i hope CHN will not win MS gold medal...sorry to say...

huangkwokhau
03-09-2008, 08:11 AM
If It is true that LD gets knee injury then he will withdraw from Swiss open...as he is safe for Olympics and I do not think any players wanted to risk themselves....

Smichz
03-09-2008, 08:11 AM
11-6 for CJ...interval

Isegrim
03-09-2008, 08:12 AM
i am very dissapointed.
on the one hand i can understand LYB tactic
but on the other hand i want to see a good game!
:(

huangkwokhau
03-09-2008, 08:12 AM
especially it is shown LIVE...they need to play more exciting games to promote Badminton.........

PlayaFromMalaya
03-09-2008, 08:13 AM
If It is true that LD gets knee injury then he will withdraw from Swiss open...as he is safe for Olympics and I do not think any players wanted to risk themselves....

withraw? haha rite sure..he's gonna play like nothing happened in swiss open

leeyco78
03-09-2008, 08:13 AM
Ya..You all really think Lin Dan injury???:confused::confused:To me,he is not trying hard for the shot and just play casually..Seriously,i don't think his injury is that serious..;):rolleyes:
The injury is obviously FAKE for an excuse of his losses and cant able to play properly. If tonight LCW playing, he wont have that injury... He is trying to catch up some points and show that he is fighting, and in the end he will give up some points to let the game off. Its part of the "acting" la....

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 08:13 AM
Ya..You all really think Lin Dan injury???:confused::confused:To me,he is not trying hard for the shot and just play casually..Seriously,i don't think his injury is that serious..;):rolleyes:

That's what I meant - LD got knee injury but not as serious as Louisa thinks.
LD not bothered to fight.
<yawn>

samuel882
03-09-2008, 08:13 AM
No that, CJ thinking, 'my senior injured, attack or not attack', think, think.... he he
No need to think.. He just attacj when opportunity comes... didn't see any drop shot from CJ oso

pjswift
03-09-2008, 08:14 AM
Must be so painful for LD to swim with that poor knee.LCW dared not even get down to 10cm off the floor with his injured knee ...ah, that must be because LCW's a wimp and LD is a.........where's XXF?

markham player
03-09-2008, 08:14 AM
LD is a very good actor. If he retires from badminton, he could be a Oscar winner too. He doesn't seem like injuired to me although he is limping right after rushing into the net to make a kill. His acting needs more "polishing".

Smichz
03-09-2008, 08:14 AM
13-11..CJ's leading

bananakid
03-09-2008, 08:14 AM
withraw? haha rite sure..he's gonna play like nothing happened in swiss open

LCW was injured in Demark open 07 and ended up winning the next French open 07 next week, so why doubt Lin Dan can't do the same next week...:p

Isegrim
03-09-2008, 08:15 AM
there are some bad line calls

z3048018
03-09-2008, 08:16 AM
so, does that deserve an Oscar?

huangkwokhau
03-09-2008, 08:16 AM
Okay..wrap it up...lets watch XD.....guarantee it is more exciting.....

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 08:16 AM
No need to think.. He just attacj when opportunity comes... didn't see any drop shot from CJ oso

Now CJ attack, maybe LD gave him a look that says "quick lah, you quickly win. I want go back to sleep."

bananakid
03-09-2008, 08:17 AM
LD is a very good actor. If he retires from badminton, he could be a Oscar winner too. He doesn't seem like injuired to me although he is limping right after rushing into the net to make a kill. His acting needs more "polishing".

Come on, he is just showing you how much further he injured his knee because of that net kill.:p

Give him some credit for his effort.

Playing badminton at his level is hard, and even as his fan, I have to say "To act while playing is even harder".:p

rhinovinda
03-09-2008, 08:17 AM
i am very dissapointed.
on the one hand i can understand LYB tactic
but on the other hand i want to see a good game!
:(

they will pay the price...:D

Smichz
03-09-2008, 08:18 AM
CJ is going to win this year's AE MS title..

THEbaschti
03-09-2008, 08:18 AM
LD is a very good actor. If he retires from badminton, he could be a Oscar winner too. He doesn't seem like injuired to me although he is limping right after rushing into the net to make a kill. His acting needs more "polishing".

Needs a lot of polishing ^^ soooo overdone at times...few points ago he touched his back and walking like 90 years old...so bad... big AE title and all and we're seeing this crappy game

george@chongwei
03-09-2008, 08:18 AM
chen jin wants to win this game badly..

pjswift
03-09-2008, 08:19 AM
Don't remember LD swim so much and so daintily in a match,has anyone?

jasonmarc
03-09-2008, 08:19 AM
erm..looks like many prediction that chen jin will win the AE title are true...

Because we all know what is LYB thinking.....:rolleyes::D:D:D:D:D:rolleyes: and its very predictable....:mad:

je5s1ca
03-09-2008, 08:19 AM
Erhmm.....just finish the game then...so we could watch the real fight in Mixed Double without any 'script' from LYB...:)

bananakid
03-09-2008, 08:19 AM
they will pay the price...:D

No, they won't.:rolleyes:

They still pocket the winning cheques, and they will have 3 players in the Olympic games this year.

However, people whom bought ticket to watch the match did "pay the price".

Louisa
03-09-2008, 08:20 AM
If It is true that LD gets knee injury then he will withdraw from Swiss open...as he is safe for Olympics and I do not think any players wanted to risk themselves....
i don't think a player who loves badminton game so much will risk himself by diving 2-3 times in a rally just to save a point?????

LD might withdraw from Swiss Open, if the injury is not fake:rolleyes:

dannyang
03-09-2008, 08:20 AM
Needs a lot of polishing ^^ soooo overdone at times...few points ago he touched his back and walking like 90 years old...so bad... big AE title and all and we're seeing this crappy game

the reason you are watching this crappy game is that non-CHN players are crappy, can't reach the final.

sepang
03-09-2008, 08:21 AM
we will see LD in swiss game....with injure free?

z3048018
03-09-2008, 08:21 AM
it'll go to one game all then quit?

Smichz
03-09-2008, 08:21 AM
19-19..CJ..2 more points to go!!

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 08:22 AM
Still can reach duece
hmmmmm

bananakid
03-09-2008, 08:22 AM
i don't think a player who loves badminton game so much will risk himself by diving 2-3 times in a rally just to save a point?????

LD might withdraw from Swiss Open, if the injury is not fake:rolleyes:

In Thomas cup 2004 final, Lin Dan saved 3 shots from Peter Gade by diving right and left.:cool: He does love the game and has the will to win, but he definitely knows how to follow instructions as well.:p

Isegrim
03-09-2008, 08:23 AM
now i think its heavily to analyse why theyre playing so bad
lin dan fights with his knee injury. he doesnt retire!

leeyco78
03-09-2008, 08:23 AM
LD is controlling the whole game. He is playing to entertain the audiences (keep on falling like hero), and he chooses whether he wants to hit the shot out or etc. Its obvious.

jermaine
03-09-2008, 08:23 AM
seriously, i dont understand what u guys are talking about? what acting all that.. are u all just jealous or what? that both ms are from china?

rhinovinda
03-09-2008, 08:23 AM
how come when striking he doesnt feel the pain but when walking he feels pain.

THEbaschti
03-09-2008, 08:24 AM
the reason you are watching this crappy game is that non-CHN players are crappy, can't reach the final.

Kinda true.... just bit frustrated cause I wanted to see a great game...

huangkwokhau
03-09-2008, 08:24 AM
Haiya...CJ.....come on wrap it up

bananakid
03-09-2008, 08:24 AM
the reason you are watching this crappy game is that non-CHN players are crappy, can't reach the final.

Exactly.:cool:

Got no others to blame but those other players who didn't perform well enough to beat the Chinese players in the first place.

Might as well...blame your mighty LCW, for letting Chen Jin getting into the final.:rolleyes:

Smichz
03-09-2008, 08:25 AM
22-21..CJ acted like he's tired..hehehe..

markham player
03-09-2008, 08:25 AM
On the book, it is a very closed game, but in my mind, it is just a play directed by LYB.

abedeng
03-09-2008, 08:25 AM
I don't think LYB would be scripting for CJ win. Maybe this is the 1st time he is allowing both players to have a go unimpeded.

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 08:25 AM
now i think its heavily to analyse why theyre playing so bad
lin dan fights with his knee injury. he doesnt retire!

LOL, you havent seen what LCW play with real knee injury, wouldnt move like LD.

huangkwokhau
03-09-2008, 08:26 AM
CJ won.........

dannyang
03-09-2008, 08:26 AM
LD is controlling the whole game. He is playing to entertain the audiences (keep on falling like hero), and he chooses whether he wants to hit the shot out or etc. Its obvious.

:D:D:D
that's funny:D

z3048018
03-09-2008, 08:26 AM
live score has frozen....has LD quit?

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 08:27 AM
how come when striking he doesnt feel the pain but when walking he feels pain.

It's dammed LD plays, it's dammed he doesn't, which one you'd prefer?

sepang
03-09-2008, 08:27 AM
Give them credit, they do the best to make it to final. No matter the game is fake or not. It is a good show...

je5s1ca
03-09-2008, 08:27 AM
Is the livescore death? or its a long rally happening right now? the score frozen at 23-23

Smichz
03-09-2008, 08:28 AM
This looks like LD is coaching CJ..

george@chongwei
03-09-2008, 08:28 AM
and chen jin wins the all england 08!!!

drifit
03-09-2008, 08:28 AM
LD is not bad at all......
keep fighting even having knee injury.
2 games till deuce......:)

Jessica
03-09-2008, 08:28 AM
LOL, you havent seen what LCW play with real knee injury, wouldnt move like LD.
And why Lin Dan risk himself by falling so many times if he really injured???Thats really weird..;);)

george@chongwei
03-09-2008, 08:28 AM
chen jin wins the game 25-23

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 08:28 AM
I don't think LYB would be scripting for CJ win. Maybe this is the 1st time he is allowing both players to have a go unimpeded.

No lah, so obvious, compare to let's say Indonesia vs Indonesia and Msia vs Msia. Both CJ & LD didnt go all out.

NullZero
03-09-2008, 08:28 AM
CJ Won. I was expecting him to be a bit more overjoyed but meh.

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 08:28 AM
live score has frozen....has LD quit?

Live Score was ahead of GD Sports streaming.

jasonmarc
03-09-2008, 08:29 AM
CJ won.........

Yes,..congratulation to CJ........pheww..... match finished as last...:)

xd..xd....xd....xd.....exciting match.....:D

rhinovinda
03-09-2008, 08:29 AM
It's dammed LD plays, it's dammed he doesn't, which one you'd prefer?

I admire LD's technique and play. Lets see on Swiss open.

badboypedi
03-09-2008, 08:29 AM
hi there...did only watch the last points of msf....lin dan seemed to be some kind of injured?! he was very slow on court etc... does anyone have information about that??

je5s1ca
03-09-2008, 08:29 AM
Now...its the real match...XD....:) go INDO...:)

Smichz
03-09-2008, 08:30 AM
Ok..next,XD..Come on indo!Come on widianto/natsir..

Louisa
03-09-2008, 08:30 AM
In Thomas cup 2004 final, Lin Dan saved 3 shots from Peter Gade by diving right and left.:cool: He does love the game and has the will to win, but he definitely knows how to follow instructions as well.:p
i hope this is not real...tho the points are so close, but if there is fake sentiment in here, the audience n the game r loser....

anyway, have to agree with dannyang that, the non-chn players r crappy...if tonight is lcw, would the knee bandage, slow movement, overacted painful face be disappeared?

Birdwood
03-09-2008, 08:31 AM
LOL, you havent seen what LCW play with real knee injury, wouldnt move like LD.

LCW with knee injury was not playing his teammate, while LD did, that's the difference :rolleyes:

Loopy
03-09-2008, 08:31 AM
I don't think LYB would be scripting for CJ win. Maybe this is the 1st time he is allowing both players to have a go unimpeded.

You're wrong.
You can easily see LD let CJ win. When you see him play, he isn't playing is usual aggresive style. Only drops and clears. No attacking drives or smash.

rhinovinda
03-09-2008, 08:31 AM
I think now LD hates so much to be still a loser in this year.

pjswift
03-09-2008, 08:32 AM
seriously, i dont understand what u guys are talking about? what acting all that.. are u all just jealous or what? that both ms are from china?
Sorry, LD fan,we're just describing how the match looks. It's a very different kind of AE MSF.Last year was also different.But AE's prestige is still intact.

eaglehelang
03-09-2008, 08:32 AM
And why Lin Dan risk himself by falling so many times if he really injured???Thats really weird..;);)

Ya loh, he he he