Just curious. There must be an official reason right?

Xie had a bad hair day.

ask li yong bo..:rolleyes::rolleyes:;):cool:

According to the commentator, Gillian Clark (?), XZB had a back injury.

bwf should make a rule for this case, too often the chinese doing this
like the case of schumi in f1
i think this is a big humalition for badminton
and for the people aren't interesting in badminton
making the pamor badminton getting lower

bwf should make a rule for this case, too often the chinese doing this
like the case of schumi in f1
i think this is a big humalition for badminton
and for the people aren't interesting in badminton
making the pamor badminton getting lower

what about holding such a big tournament but no TV broadcast coverage, is it humiliate to this sport.

nobody was watching and could watch...

again, interestingly enough, the chinese XD players xie/zhang will be playing in swiss open despite 'back injury'...same goes for Lin Dan who sustained a 'knee injury' whom i bet will be playing as well in the swiss open on wednesday. They only suffer from injury if playing against their own team members, what a coincidence! hehe

Other than pointing out the obvious fact that the walkover was forced, what is the point of this thread?

I am truly curious about the official reason. Because you cannot just walk out the court without any (true or fake) reasons, and with no consequence. Remember TH in 06 HKO, he walked out and then got punished by BWF. So I guess there must be some official reason so that Xie/Zhang would not be punished by BWF.

Please don't treat every thread as if there is a "big purpose" hiding behind it.

Other than pointing out the obvious fact that the walkover was forced, what is the point of this thread?

again, interestingly enough, the chinese XD players xie/zhang will be playing in swiss open despite 'back injury'...same goes for Lin Dan who sustained a 'knee injury' whom i bet will be playing as well in the swiss open on wednesday. They only suffer from injury if playing against their own team members, what a coincidence! hehe

I am truly curious about the official reason. Don't treat every thread as if there is a "big purpose" hiding behind it.

it is best to rest if you have minor injury/injuries before it getting worse. as it get worse, is not that resting for 3 days will be better. perhaps 3 or more months. vs own countryman, risk your injury or let go? please pick one.
you are a hero today, tomorrow is zero..........;)

I am truly curious about the official reason. Because you cannot just walk out the court without any (true or fake) reasons, and with no consequence. Remember TH in 06 HKO, he walked out and then got punished by BWF. So I guess there must be some official reason so that Xie/Zhang would not be punished by BWF.

Please don't treat every thread as if there is a "big purpose" hiding behind it.

Yes, you were curious and I believe that. But a thread can be used or turned into an out-off-topic one or one with "big purpose" beyond your control after you open it. That's why threads gets opened by everyone, but closed only by mods :cool::D:p

and what is the official reason..wang yi han walkover to Lu Lan?:rolleyes:

good question but i guess LYB would have all the answers as he's the director of the year!

not just best director of the year but LIFETIME ACHIVEMENT :-), not only happen this year as i remember (xia vs wch the first i remember) this action made the china team as number 1 in the world a big humiliation (if they know the felling of shame) and injuried the name of fair play definitily bwf should take action to china

bwf should make a rule for this case, too often the chinese doing this
like the case of schumi in f1
i think this is a big humalition for badminton
and for the people aren't interesting in badminton
making the pamor badminton getting lower

Well, the biggest humalition for me is, some ppl gave up on their own players, and only have to pray for some dirts from others.

Ppl, CHN players W/O in the later round (I don't support that myself) because they have the luxury to do so, as they are good enough to get there first. The real reason that badminton will "lose popularity" is other nations can't catch up the pace. To make it even worse, they don't do anything, but keep crying... :o

I am truly curious about the official reason. Because you cannot just walk out the court without any (true or fake) reasons, and with no consequence. Remember TH in 06 HKO, he walked out and then got punished by BWF. So I guess there must be some official reason so that Xie/Zhang would not be punished by BWF.

Please don't treat every thread as if there is a "big purpose" hiding behind it.

Maybe your initial attention is fine, but as an old timer here, I am sure you are fully aware about how this kinda topic will be lead to. If my memory serve me correctly, yourself got involved into quite a few "topics" here and there over the time.

If you can honestly and proudly announce there's "no big purpose" about your thread, how come the CHN players can't announce there's "no other reason than injury" about their W/O? :rolleyes:

I strongly disagree with this argument.

1. "China has the luxury to do so". Some ppl have more money, so they have the luxury to bribe. Does that mean poorer ppl cannot say bribing is wrong? Some ppl have better physique, so they have the luxury to beat other ppl up. Does that mean weaker ppl cannot say beating is wrong?

2. Badminton will not lose popularity only because China is by far the most strong one. Look at basketball. USA used to be so strong that they don't need to send their best players to the Olympics or World Championships. Does basketball lose popularity? "Other country catching up" is just one part of the story. China, as the dominating power, also has big responsibility. When a sport is full of suspicious WOs, real fans lose interest.

The key is, one country dominates or not, to keep the sport competitive and entertaining. NBA did just that. Although there are match fixings, but they fixed it in such a skillful way that the matches are still competitive and entertaining.

My bottom line: At least make the fixed match entertaining.


Ppl, CHN players W/O in the later round (I don't support that myself) because they have the luxury to do so, as they are good enough to get there first. The real reason that badminton will "lose popularity" is other nations can't catch up the pace. To make it even worse, they don't do anything, but keep crying... :o

What kind of logic is this? Just because I was involved in a few discussions, I must have a "big purpose" in any of my thread? Do I get any real benefit by having this "big purpose" behind my thread (On the contrary LYB indeed benefited much from these supposedly fixed matches)?

By the way, what ppl would like to express in my thread is their freedom. I am not responsible for that.


If you can honestly and proudly announce there's "no big purpose" about your thread, how come the CHN players can't announce there's "no other reason than injury" about their W/O? :rolleyes:

I strongly disagree with this argument.

1. "China has the luxury to do so". Some ppl have more money, so they have the luxury to bribe. Does that mean poorer ppl cannot say bribing is wrong? Some ppl have better physique, so they have the luxury to beat other ppl up. Does that mean weaker ppl cannot say beating is wrong?

2. Badminton will not lose popularity only because China is by far the most strong one. Look at basketball. USA used to be so strong that they don't need to send their best players to the Olympics or World Championships. Does basketball lose popularity? "Other country catching up" is just one part of the story. China, as the dominating power, also has big responsibility. When a sport is full of suspicious WOs, real fans lose interest.

The key is, one country dominates or not, to keep the sport competitive and entertaining. NBA did just that. Although there are match fixings, but they fixed it in such a skillful way that the matches are still competitive and entertaining.

My bottom line: At least make the fixed match entertaining.

Here we go again... Great, now the topic has the "big purpose" again... :rolleyes:

Anyhow, in my earlier post, I mentioned that I don't really support W/O from a fan's point of view. Of course, if I paid my ticket, if I stayed up late all night to watch a game, I don't want to see a W/O. However, is that fair to judge the W/O from player/coach point of view.

Great that you mentioned US NBA basketball team. Yes, they were dominate. And yes, other naitons did catch up. Did you hear other teams speaking in a jealous way in 1992, say, "hey, they are good...", "damn cheaters, they use pros against amature", "man, xxx sit out a game, show no respect", etc? No, the opponents showed respect, they sucked the blood, and decide to train better and smarter. They did not simply lying down, crying while figure point at NBA, saying they used experienced pros to humilate the amatures.

My point is, the fact is here. CHN is better, and they have their way to win. Since there's no way to change the rules right now, baby crying is not doing anything good for others. Therefore, wipe the tears, suck the blood, and try to think about "how to make myself better", but not "how to put some dirts on the current champ". :cool:

What kind of logic is this? Just because I was involved in a few discussions, I must have a "big purpose" in any of my thread? Do I get any real benefit by having this "big purpose" behind my thread (On the contrary LYB indeed benefited much from these supposedly fixed matches)?

By the way, what ppl would like to express in my thread is their freedom. I am not responsible for that.


It's not rocket science to figure out what kinda thread this one will be dragging into. You are not responsible for what others say, and I am not a detective to investigate this.

Same as, LYB does not have to buy what you and/or others say, and you or others can't find out anything that he did clearly voilate any written rule. :rolleyes:

When a sport is full of suspicious WOs, real fans lose interest.



From what I see, fans did not lose interesting. Instead of cheering for their players, they are busy finger pointing at others. Instead of provide positive suggestions to their own orgnizations, they become lawyers and detectives try to figure out what others are doing.

If they save all such time and effort from crying and blaming, and use it in training. The sport will be more competitive, and it's impossible to feature this many all CHN finals or even all CHN semi finals. :rolleyes:

The subject the thread has diverged into is discussed after almost every major tournament, and as such the reasons, Logics, people opinions on the rights/wrong and the effect on the badminton world and peoples' opinions on Badminton from outside have been discussed thoroughly.

I Believe the original Question the thread posed has been answered adequately: The Official Reason Xie/Zhang gave walk over to Zheng/Gao is that XZB had an Injured back.