Racket to generate more power?

[Swanson]

Hi,

I'm looking for a new racket that could help me generate more power.
I'm an intermediate player and plays 2-3 times a week.
I'm trying to be an aggresive player and like to smah a lot (but need power:crying:)
But in doubles i would like control also - so a balance between power/control.

After studying this forum for a long time now i've found out a few things that could help me in my selection of the right racket - and have a few questions:

Should i go for a flexible racket to help me generate the power ? - og should or go for stiff racket and just use low tension ?

And what about head heavy rackets/balanced ? Would it help me in my baseline/smash to get a heavy head racket?

And last - what racket suggestions do you have that maybe could help me improving my game ?

[bry172]

Hi,

I'm looking for a new racket that could help me generate more power.
I'm an intermediate player and plays 2-3 times a week.
I'm trying to be an aggresive player and like to smah a lot (but need power:crying:)
But in doubles i would like control also - so a balance between power/control.

After studying this forum for a long time now i've found out a few things that could help me in my selection of the right racket - and have a few questions:

Should i go for a flexible racket to help me generate the power ? - og should or go for stiff racket and just use low tension ?

And what about head heavy rackets/balanced ? Would it help me in my baseline/smash to get a heavy head racket?

And last - what racket suggestions do you have that maybe could help me improving my game ?a head heavy racket is best for smashing power like the at 900p but if your a person who relies on your wrist a head light racket such as the ns9000 is. are you a person who uses there arm or there wrist to generate power? do you play singles or doubles more?

[Smichz]

a head heavy racket is best for smashing power like the at 900p but if your a person who relies on your wrist a head light racket such as the ns9000 is. are you a person who uses there arm or there wrist to generate power? do you play singles or doubles more?

AT900P is not that head heavy.Go for AT700 if u have enough power..
More power is not only decided by the racket..but it's more judged by the combo of ur power,ur technique,ur string,its tension,n the grip size..When the grip is smaller,the head is getting heavier..that way it should generate more power when u smash.

The explanation of the string tension..If u don't have that much power..go for lower tension.That way the string will give u the bouncing effect.But if u have big power,go for high tension.It'll give u more accuracy.

[Swanson]

a head heavy racket is best for smashing power like the at 900p but if your a person who relies on your wrist a head light racket such as the ns9000 is. are you a person who uses there arm or there wrist to generate power? do you play singles or doubles more?


I use more the arm to get the power. My wrist work is not that good.
Mostly play doubles and mostly in the back.

So i believe the total weight of the racket should not be that high?

[Swanson]

AT900P is not that head heavy.Go for AT700 if u have enough power..
More power is not only decided by the racket..but it's more judged by the combo of ur power,ur technique,ur string,its tension,n the grip size..When the grip is smaller,the head is getting heavier..that way it should generate more power when u smash.

The explanation of the string tension..If u don't have that much power..go for lower tension.That way the string will give u the bouncing effect.But if u have big power,go for high tension.It'll give u more accuracy.

I need some help from the racket as i can't generate it all by my self.
Don't thnik i have enpugh power for at700 yet.
I'll try to work on the tension level once i've found the right racket for me.

[bry172]

I need some help from the racket as i can't generate it all by my self.
Don't think i have enough power for at700 yet.
I'll try to work on the tension level once i've found the right racket for me. i have the 900p and im similar to you i play doubles in the back the 900p is better for doubles than the 700 its less head heavy but it is still able to generate a lot of power. ive tried both rackets and i liked the 900p better as it is more maneuverable than the 700 because it is less head heavy. in regards to string tension its more of an experimental thing to find what tension you like. start off around like 20 pounds and see how you like that if its way too loose you can try jumping 2-3 pounds maybe evenmore depends on what your preference is. if its too tight just do the opposite so go down 2-3 pounds next time you restring. do this until you find your ideal tension. as you go on you may like a higher tension.

[speedy]

Would really recommend ns9k type s. Lots of power with less effort:)

[bry172]

Would really recommend ns9k type s. Lots of power with less effort:) the ns9000s is a very good racket but hes said he uses his arm and not much of his wrist. i don't think hed be able to generate enough head speed to create a lot of power. thats y i think a head heavy racket would suit him better.

[Zero_Cool]

Go for at700 or at900p........i think you should go for at700 4U actually

[bry172]

Go for at700 or at900p........i think you should go for at700 4U actually 4u arent as good as 3us. plus the 900p has a longer handle so you can choke up for those fast drives in doubles. if you can getout and try to get your hands on both rackets for urself to try.

[Viper2005]

Try practice swinging a tennis or squash racket with a right to left wrist twisting motion. After 200 times, try swinging your badminton racket. Do it everyday and your wrist with have more strength to snap for a better smash.
As for a better racket for smash, try the Babolat satelite nitro.
The Babolat racket is stiff and heavy, the string pattern is closer together in the center sweet spot, string it at 30lbs tension with Ashaway Microlegend XL 0.73mm or MicroPower XL 0.73mm.
You've got yourself a very nice smashing racket.
I've got one customized for myself, great smashing racket, but drains the energy from your arm pretty fast, after about 200 smashes (which is about 3 games).
Good Luck.:)


I need some help from the racket as i can't generate it all by my self.
Don't thnik i have enpugh power for at700 yet.
I'll try to work on the tension level once i've found the right racket for me.

[silentheart]

Dear Swanson,

Sorry for hijack your post earlier. Some time we do have too much fun here.

FYI, if you have a all graphite racquet, restring your racquet with a better string and better string job. A quote from Master LazzyBuddy "Restringing is the best poor man's racquet upgrade".

traning with squash racquet is a good idea, tennis, DON'T.

Practice makes a shot (of scotch) perfect. So, find a friend to practice the basic shots with you. After all, you can not see your mistake when you are playing.

If you still have extra money, get a instructor or coach.

Good luck

[Swanson]

Dear Swanson,

Sorry for hijack your post earlier. Some time we do have too much fun here.

FYI, if you have a all graphite racquet, restring your racquet with a better string and better string job. A quote from Master LazzyBuddy "Restringing is the best poor man's racquet upgrade".

traning with squash racquet is a good idea, tennis, DON'T.

Practice makes a shot (of scotch) perfect. So, find a friend to practice the basic shots with you. After all, you can not see your mistake when you are playing.

If you still have extra money, get a instructor or coach.

Good luck

It's OK :-)

I Just broke my ISOmetric80 light and need to get a new rocket ;-).

I have no problems make the shots correct - i was just looking for a racket that could help a little compared to that old ISO80. I have no problem doing clears and baseline shots - and my smash is also ok.... I just want a little more power - now that im forced to buy new racket.

And the money is not an issue - but i don't want to buy the most expensive racket as i know it won't fit me.

If i could find a racket that fits me - then i'll try to work with different tensions.

[silentheart]

One last joke...
Power currupts, the absolute power currupts absolute.

PS, I like you Denish people. Friendly and nice.

[Runner23]

One last joke...
Power currupts, the absolute power currupts absolute.

PS, I like you Denish people. Friendly and nice.


I second this statement. All-around good guys....

[Runner23]

One last joke...
Power currupts, the absolute power currupts absolute.

PS, I like you Denish people. Friendly and nice.

So, by that statement, is there such a thing as a corrupt racket?

[jamesd20]

So, by that statement, is there such a thing as a corrupt racket?

Absolutely............................

[coolhandluke]

The head heavy armortec series may suit you better like 3U AT900P, 4U AT700, or 3U AT500.

[bry172]

The head heavy armortec series may suit you better like 3U AT900P, 4U AT700, or 3U AT500.i agree really depends on your price range any1 of these rackets are very good. make sure if you get any of them get it in 3u as there have been stories about how the 4u versions are weaker.

[Swanson]

i agree really depends on your price range any1 of these rackets are very good. make sure if you get any of them get it in 3u as there have been stories about how the 4u versions are weaker.

Price range is no problem.
But are the AT700 / AT900 not too stiff when i need more power ?
Or could i just use lower tension ??

[bry172]

Price range is no problem.
But are the AT700 / AT900 not too stiff when i need more power ?
Or could i just use lower tension ?? the 700 says its is stiff but after using it for a while some people say it breaks in and becomes more like medium stiff. both rackets are good 700 leans towards singles play where as the 900p is more suitable for both. the more you play the more power you will gain.start off with low tension around 18-20 and work your way up. if you start with a very flexible racket with really low tension your control may suffer a bit . both rackets are sufficient for you to improve with. it may start off feeling a bit stiff and power is lacking the more you play the more powerful you will get.

[Athelete1234]

Price range is no problem.
But are the AT700 / AT900 not too stiff when i need more power ?
Or could i just use lower tension ??
If you're new to the game, AT700 and AT900P are not good choices. They're both head heavy, probably too head heavy to learn proper techniques because their weight doesn't punish poor arm technique, and they're expensive; a big clash will break them, and your wallet. And even with low tension, both racquets are relatively stiff and unforgiving; and stiff shaft with bouncy strings (18-20) is not the same feeling a moderate flex racquet with strings that are normal tension (20-23). Go for the AT500, lower end MP, or something else. Not the high end musclepowers, armortecs, or nanospeeds. If you really need help producing power, a stiff, unforgiving racquet is NOT goign to help.

[Swanson]

If you're new to the game, AT700 and AT900P are not good choices. They're both head heavy, probably too head heavy to learn proper techniques because their weight doesn't punish poor arm technique, and they're expensive; a big clash will break them, and your wallet. And even with low tension, both racquets are relatively stiff and unforgiving; and stiff shaft with bouncy strings (18-20) is not the same feeling a moderate flex racquet with strings that are normal tension (20-23). Go for the AT500, lower end MP, or something else. Not the high end musclepowers, armortecs, or nanospeeds. If you really need help producing power, a stiff, unforgiving racquet is NOT goign to help.

I've been playing for 3-4 years mostly on motion basis. 1½ year in a club.
I know the basic techniques and can do allmost any shot - offcourse not like the pro's :-)

You get my point - as i think a too stiff racket will not help my lack of armpower.
But when i look on the net for AT500 it shows "stiff" ? Is it a mistake on the pages i visited ?
What about the MP88 ? - is it not a little like AT500 - just more flexible ?

[bry172]

I've been playing for 3-4 years mostly on motion basis. 1½ year in a club.
I know the basic techniques and can do allmost any shot - offcourse not like the pro's :-)

You get my point - as i think a too stiff racket will not help my lack of armpower.
But when i look on the net for AT500 it shows "stiff" ? Is it a mistake on the pages i visited ?
What about the MP88 ? - is it not a little like AT500 - just more flexible ? the sites are not wrong. if its possible get out and try all the rackets your interested in. some racks shafts are stiff but the head heaviness makes the shaft flex more because of the weight at the head of the racket. even if it says "stiff" it doesn't always means it will feel stiff.

[Athelete1234]

I've been playing for 3-4 years mostly on motion basis. 1½ year in a club.
I know the basic techniques and can do allmost any shot - offcourse not like the pro's :-)

You get my point - as i think a too stiff racket will not help my lack of armpower.
But when i look on the net for AT500 it shows "stiff" ? Is it a mistake on the pages i visited ?
What about the MP88 ? - is it not a little like AT500 - just more flexible ?
AT500 is moderate stiff. It's better for the less advanced player because defense doesn't suffer from a super heavy head, and it's power is better than most racquets.
From what I've heard (I haven't used an MP88 long enough to say), MP88 is slightly head heavy with flexy-ish shaft.

[malaikiat]

why cant pratice with tennis racket?

[bry172]

why cant pratice with tennis racket? don't practice with tennis rackets if you practice with anything use play squash/racketball or use an old heavy badminton racket. tennis is too much of muscling the ball using power instead of trying to generate speed with the racket.

[speedy]

@Swanson:
I'm also intermediate. I owned the following racquets which are being discussed here :

at700 (3x), at900p(1x), at900t(1x), ti10(3x), and ns9k type s (latest favourite racquet)

The at700 is medium flexible. Very strong smash but a lil' head heavy for intense doubles match.

At900p is too stiff and has very small sweetspot, so it is out of the question.

AT900t is quite versatile but cannot produce same power as at700.

Ti10 (new) can produce same power as at700 and a lil' less head heavy ( so better than at700 for doubles)

Ns9k type S is headlight but very easy to produce power. Can produce smash as strong at the at700 or ti10 and very versatile. Suitable for intense doubles match.

So of all the racquets above, the order in which I prefer is ns9k type S, ti10, at700, at900t and at900p.

But be very careful : don't get the ns9k type x. You would regret it :)

[bry172]

@Swanson:
I'm also intermediate. I owned the following racquets which are being discussed here :

at700 (3x), at900p(1x), at900t(1x), ti10(3x), and ns9k type s (latest favourite racquet)

The at700 is medium flexible. Very strong smash but a lil' head heavy for intense doubles match.

At900p is too stiff and has very small sweetspot, so it is out of the question.

AT900t is quite versatile but cannot produce same power as at700.

Ti10 (new) can produce same power as at700 and a lil' less head heavy ( so better than at700 for doubles)

Ns9k type S is headlight but very easy to produce power. Can produce smash as strong at the at700 or ti10 and very versatile. Suitable for intense doubles match.

So of all the racquets above, the order in which I prefer is ns9k type S, ti10, at700, at900t and at900p.

But be very careful : don't get the ns9k type x. You would regret it :) the new ti-10 is powerful but the at700 is more powerful. having said that the ti-10 is still a powerful racket. The 900p is powerful given the fact your hand eye coordination is good. the sweet spot is a bit smaller but when you smash and you hit that spot that bird is gonna go fast. The ns9k is a god racket for wristy players the head is light to so if you are able to head speed but your arm isnt very strong it is the racket for you. unless your have a very strong wrist stick with the s as the shaft is less stiff. my order off preference would be a bit different it'd be

ti-10 or at 900p>at900t>ns9k>at700

the 700 is a very good singles racket except it is just a bit too head heavy for doubles. As you see my order is difference to speedy's. its all a matter of your style(more wrist or arm) and preference.

[Jeff_SUN]

Yes, AT700/900 or old Ti10 can help you increase your power when smashing. But, if you don't have enough arm power, do not even think about those rackets. Because head-heavy and stiff rackets will seriously reduce your swing speed and manouverability when you don't have the power. And there might be a chance that the racket will hurt your wrist. You probably couldn't feel hurt after a three hours session, but if you keep playing for couple of month, you'll regret. Try a 3U Nanospeed 9000s.

[Smichz]

3U AT700 would work well actually..it depends on how powerful is ur swing n arm..

[bry172]

3U AT700 would work well actually..it depends on how powerful is ur swing n arm.. the at700 is too head heavy for doubles but yes it is a powerful racket.

[speedy]

the at700 is too head heavy for doubles but yes it is a powerful racket.
Yes, I think that's the consensus that we arrive at in this forum

[bry172]

Yes, I think that's the consensus that we arrive at in this forumi don;t think that the first time ive said this in this forum but some1 once again suggested the at700 not knowing the guy is looking for a doubles racket.

[Athelete1234]

the at700 is too head heavy for doubles but yes it is a powerful racket.


Yes, I think that's the consensus that we arrive at in this forum
That's why I use the AT700 for doubles and dont' have any problems. People should be advised that the AT700 is slower for doubles, but it certainly isn't only a singles racquet.

[bry172]

That's why I use the AT700 for doubles and dont' have any problems. People should be advised that the AT700 is slower for doubles, but it certainly isn't only a singles racquet.i never said it CANT be used for doubles i only said that it its too head heavy. too head heavy =slower. its just not an ideal doubles racket.

[Athelete1234]

i never said it CANT be used for doubles i only said that it its too head heavy. too head heavy =slower. its just not an ideal doubles racket.
Well saying it's too heavy for doubles means that it isnt' a doubles racquet. I'll just say that we agree that it's slow for doubles. I'm not gonna drag this out anymore:D:D

[aerotus70]

not really the racket that generate power, its mostly your arm,wrist... just that head heavy racket feels better when you swing the racket downward, like when running down hill your speed increase

[bry172]

not really the racket that generate power, its mostly your arm,wrist... just that head heavy racket feels better when you swing the racket downward, like when running down hill your speed increase the racket affects it cuz think bout a car hitting lets say a ball a heavier car hitting the same ball would go faster at the same speed then a lighter car. its not that a head heavy racket feels better if your an arm player ur not gonna be able to generate much speed with a headlight racket and since its light it wont have as much power. thats ya if your more of an arm player you would use a head heavy racket to use the weight to compensate for the speed. The opposite would apply to wristy players. And saying it feels better is not true because some people like the feel of headlight rackets more.

[Oldhand]

the racket affects it cuz think bout a car hitting lets say a ball a heavier car hitting the same ball would go faster at the same speed then a lighter car
If anything, this is an insensible sentence.
- how does the ball make the heavier car go faster??? :eek:
- 'go faster at the same speed'... how can 'faster' be 'the same speed'? :eek:

If you mean 'when struck by a heavier car, the ball will go faster than when struck by a lighter car', it just might begin to make a wee bit of sense ;)

By the way, discarding punctuation doesn't make the post cool.

[silentheart]

There are a lot of physics and enginnering behind a racquet's design. I will have to write a 10 page paper and I do not have the time nor the energy to go through all the theories. What we are talking about here are just in general and rule of thumb. It is different case for different people. Just demo as many racquets you can before you buy. Fine the one you feel the best.

[bry172]

If anything, this is an insensible sentence.
- how does the ball make the heavier car go faster??? :eek:
- 'go faster at the same speed'... how can 'faster' be 'the same speed'? :eek:

If you mean 'when struck by a heavier car, the ball will go faster than when struck by a lighter car', it just might begin to make a wee bit of sense ;)

By the way, discarding punctuation doesn't make the post cool. thats what i meant i apologize for that i meant the ball would go farther if struck by the a heavier car in comparison to a lighter car that was traveling the same speed as the heavier one.typed that one pretty fast didn't proofread it when i shudda.

[bry172]

There are a lot of physics and enginnering behind a racquet's design. I will have to write a 10 page paper and I do not have the time nor the energy to go through all the theories. What we are talking about here are just in general and rule of thumb. It is different case for different people. Just demo as many racquets you can before you buy. Fine the one you feel the best.Yes my post was just a general thing. there also consideration in the rackets flexibility, where it flexes. You also have to take into consideration a wristy player with a headlight racket will generate more speed than a arm player with a head heavy racket. You would have to do some math to figure out which one ends up exerting more force given the speed of the rackets travel and the weight of the rackets and all that good stuff. I agree best way to figure out which racket is good for you is to TRY OUT DIFFERENT RACKETS. Start with totally different rackets and then slowly narrow it down.

[jhirata]

If anything, this is an insensible sentence.
- how does the ball make the heavier car go faster??? :eek:
- 'go faster at the same speed'... how can 'faster' be 'the same speed'? :eek:

If you mean 'when struck by a heavier car, the ball will go faster than when struck by a lighter car', it just might begin to make a wee bit of sense ;)

By the way, discarding punctuation doesn't make the post cool.
He basicly means force = mass x acceleration.
So.. the force created by someone with alot of 'mass'/strength(and also heavy racquet) but normal 'acceleration'/swinging speed would almost equal the force created by someone with normal 'mass' but faster 'acceleration'.
I believe that the reason why professional players use head-heavy racquets with alot of 'mass' is because they already have the right technique to generate a fast swing. So.. alot of mass+some more mass from racquet x fast acceleration = the force created by a professional player.

Hope I'm not wrong..... well there's other variables such as the shaft stiffness.

[silentheart]

Actually, he means conservation of momentum. p=mv.

[Pete LSD]

Yes Yes Yes, GrandMaster SH has hit the right buttons once again!!! :D


Actually, he means conservation of momentum. p=mv.

[aerotus70]

U racket FTW? :D

[silentheart]

U racket FTW? :D
I am sorry for not understanding the text messaging lingo. I am too old for this crap.

[coolhandluke]

He probably meant "1U racket for the win" given the context of the past replies to this thread.