Swiss Open Day 6 - Finals (16 Mar)

[carine]

gogogo chong wei...go farer

[extremenanopowe]

we have a show ladies and gentlemen !!!!

[vching]

temporary reprise from Lin Dan.

Lee Chong Wei takes a imaginary cushion. But it will be all the sweeter for Lin Dan to crush Lee when Chong Wei loses.

[robin7]

Kill by LD 8-10.....

[jasonmarc]

LCW...is at his low form now.....he lost to CJ last week....

I dont think he is any where near to LD at this stage....even LD carrying a leg injury....try harder LCW......

[samuel882]

yup. less error by both side.. starting to get interesting now

[eaglehelang]

LCWs keeping up well now, takes the lead now. Is the match getting better in 2nd set, less errors? Robin? anyone watching astro?

They are, if not how they give description of the shots, etc.

[carine]

smash more chong wei...smash smash smash

[vching]

see, Lin Dan is chasing up already. Lee cowers and runs in defeat.

[carine]

gogogo chong wei...don't let opponent close it

[Pemuda]

Come LCW! Boleh Boleh Boleh Malaysia Boleh!

Do it for our tallest flag pole!
Do it for our Space Flight Participant program!

[vching]

Lin Dan chasing closer and closer.
Chong Wei no hope liao

[carine]

oh no,10 all ady.....

[taufik-ist]

achhh.... ties 10-10

[eaglehelang]

Jason is assisting VChing on the reverse psy thingy?

[THEbaschti]

They are, if not how they give description of the shots, etc.
No, I meant they should state if the rallies are getting better now :D

[robin7]

Error by LCW at the net 9-10.

Return by LCW called long. 10-all.

Return wide by LCW. LD 11-10.

[vching]

5 straight points from Lin!

He is UNSTOPPABLE!

[carine]

LD leading back ady...come on chong wei

[samuel882]

LEE defensive shots always went wide at sideline

[wesoon77]

Wake up Lee Chong Wei !

[vching]

Jason is assisting VChing on the reverse psy thingy?


jason retrieving the candles, incense, etc :D:D:D

[extremenanopowe]

cmon, left punch, right punch then middle punch... boleh ka?

[carine]

come on chong wei...

[robin7]

6 straight pts by LD 12-10.

[vching]

Lee Chong Wei is feeling the game slipping away from him as he falls further and further behind.

[extremenanopowe]

Is LYB doing the chanting again??? I tot I hear it. hehe.

[yen_saw]

THe game might end in straight set i am afraid.

[carine]

WAKE UP chong wei

[jasonmarc]

They are, if not how they give description of the shots, etc.

Thru....imagination...lah....:D:D:D...makes things up...;)

[wesoon77]

Looks like Lindan is always better than LCW, really a world No. 1.

[vching]

Lin Dan shows us why he is NUMBER 1!

[vching]

Any hopes of a close match are being dashed as Lee appears to be steamrolled by Lin.

Balik Kampung lah...

[eaglehelang]

Thru....imagination...lah....:D:D:D...makes things up...;)

ha ha, Robin & Samuel not like that

[Pemuda]

Game on LD. 14 - 11

[carine]

go chong wei,u cn do it

[Konnichiwa]

Lin Dan shows us why he is NUMBER 1!

:cool: to easy for lin dan man....LCW to weak or tired from the looks of it

[yen_saw]

At this stage, LD only has himself to beat, unless any the "knee" injury appear suddenly again :D

[jasonmarc]

LCW's peak form has past,.....he simply cant match LD's...speed, power and accuracy ..........

[Pemuda]

Lin Dan shows us why he is NUMBER 1!

You dont win the WC for nothing.

[vching]

Lin Dan is THE BEST!!!

[carine]

come on chong wei,still gt hope

[DinkAlot]

Lin Dan BOLEH!!! :D


Oh wait, I meant, "jia you!" :p

[vching]

You dont win the WC for nothing.

yes, you don't win 2 straight WC for nothing.

[xsakurax]

haiz lcw jia you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!dun give up~~ =____________________=''

[Pemuda]

Relax LD, toy with LCW a little.

[extremenanopowe]

look like LD the man tonite. If he's smart, he shd finish it off in 2 games. Else LCW will make a come back.

[carine]

gogogo chong wei.....faster chase

[Pemuda]

yes, you don't win 2 straight WC for nothing.

Yes. spot on. LD is the main man.

[vching]

semua harapan orang Malaysia dimatikan (All Malaysian's hopes are being dashed. )

Chong Wei CANNOT win.

[xsakurax]

u can do it lcw~~~~~~~~go go go~~~~~~=_______________________________=

[carine]

Lee Chong Wei Boleh!!!

[robin7]

16-all. Smash wide by LD.

[yetack17]

i still believe lin dan will win tonight.although i like and support chong wei.

[vching]

Yes. spot on. LD is the main man.

Yep. Lin Dan is the man we should all pray to.

[Pemuda]

ahhhh ... LD is starting to fool around a little.

[carine]

yes,16 all...gogogo chong wei

[xsakurax]

dun give up lcW~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>_______________________<

[vching]

Lin Dan BOLEH!!!

JIA YOU LIN DAN!!!

[THEbaschti]

Whoops LCW just took the lead, LD would better watch out...or better not would love to see a third set

[extremenanopowe]

lai liao, lai liao.... sei ah. sei ah... sat ah sat ah... hoot ah hoot ah...

[taufik-ist]

yes... finally lcw leads 17:16

[badMania]

A great recovery from LCW, down 13-16 just now and now its level at 17-17. Crucial 4 pts now....

[vching]

the KO08 Deja Vu prediction is coming closer and closer...
But LIN DAN WILL WIN!!!

[carine]

go chong wei,you must win tis set

[malaikiat]

lin dan will win.....lcw does not play well tonight

[yen_saw]

I am sure LD want to finish it in straight set, it is not appropriate and unrespectful to toy with your opponent especially at a final in superseries.

[vching]

Lee can feel the game slipping away from him.

[robin7]

LCW is shouting in frustration....

[xsakurax]

lcw dun give up~~=______________________=

[carine]

don't give up,chong wei...gogogo

[vching]

Chong Wei is so useless....

[taufik-ist]

Lcw...!!!!!! Lcw Lehbo

[jasonmarc]

Yep. Lin Dan is the man we should all pray to.

Yes...he's the god of badminton.....pray.....he's the greatest...pray.....no injury could stop him from winning againts non-chn player.....pray....:D:D

[Pemuda]

Yep. Lin Dan is the man we should all pray to.

Well, I can set it all up for you at your home. An altar and etc.

[Hazeef]

robin, wat happen now?

[vching]

match point for the GREAT DAN. Take it!

[carine]

match pt for LD.....

[badMania]

2 match pts for Lin Dan now...

[yen_saw]

LD won!.........

[vching]

Well, I can set it all up for you at your home. An altar and etc.

All hail lord Lin.

[Pemuda]

Done & dusted.

Next ....

[vching]

LEE CHONG WEI loose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~sad~

[volcom]

Go Lin Dan!!!!!!!!!!!!

[badMania]

All over, Lin Dan beat Lee Chong Wei in straight sets 21-13, 21-18.

[extremenanopowe]

adios! real speedy gonzales game. Well done to lindan. he keep it short and sweet. LCW still having honeymoon from last year. Selamat Jalan!

[vching]

Pemuda is one interesting character. I want to meet him one day.

[eaglehelang]

ok, it's done. not as exciting as expected from the descriptions. taufik vs LCW last wk was more interesting.
OG preview no 1 : to LD

[robin7]

I can hardly hear what LD was saying in the interview.

[wesoon77]

Darn Lindan... I wonder what is the feeling to be always supressed by someone on top of you. Poor LCW.

[badMania]

Okay...faster time for the MD please...:p

[Jessica]

Well,LCW lost in two straight game..He made a lot of unforced error in the first and and when he wanted to bounce back in the second set,its already too late.Lin Dan is really super today..

[carine]

haiz...........chong wei lost ady

[Pemuda]

ok, it's done. not as exciting as expected from the descriptions. taufik vs LCW last wk was more interesting.
OG preview no 1 : to LD

I am surprised LD did not 'throw this game away' ;)

... and LCW is looking like 'no mood' tonight also. :p

[taufik-ist]

I'm a bit worried about LYD who only has 16 hours to rest.:(

an excuse is in the making before the md match begins :p :p :D

[jasonmarc]

Congratulation LD.......LCW is not at his peak......its OK.....as long as LCW peak at the right time...........OG....someone will be in troubles.....hehehe

[eaglehelang]

Yes...he's the god of badminton.....pray.....he's the greatest...pray.....no injury could stop him from winning againts non-chn player.....pray....:D:D

kah kah kah kah, this is really hilarious. LD recovered super duper fast from injury.:D:D:D

[Dreamzz]

oh well, good try, at least he has consistently made it to at least the SF of most of the events he's played in. looks like LD is still the man after all.

[extremenanopowe]

lindan the man. Lets go watch shark tale.

[robin7]

Lin Dan beat Lee Chong Wei in straight sets 21-13 21-18 in 36-min encounter. Too many unforced errors from the Malaysian.

Lin Dan is now the clear favorite for gold in Olympic.

[Pemuda]

Pemuda is one interesting character. I want to meet him one day.

Sure send me an airticket to Brisbane and I jolly well be there.

[vching]

dilemma... all my girl friends are supporting Lee Yong Dae.... I like Setiawan and Kido.... But I like Yong Dae and Jae Sung too...

[drifit]

is that Rolex???

[pjswift]

Finally, a title for LD at the 4th SS.Relief!

[taufik-ist]

dilemma... all my girl friends are supporting Lee Yong Dae.... I like Setiawan and Kido.... But I like Yong Dae and Jae Sung too...

you can't have all.. choose one... him or her :D :p

[yen_saw]

Stopping LD in OG at his home ground would be extra difficult now with his current form.

[vching]

kah kah kah kah, this is really hilarious. LD recovered super duper fast from injury.:D:D:D

You mean you don't know that Li Yongbo is an aconite that can heal people?

He used his Paladin powers to heal Lin Dan!

All praise lord Lin.

[robin7]

an excuse is in the making before the md match begins :p :p :D
Oops, that's copyright from Krisna and badMania.:p:D

[vching]

you can't have all.. choose one... him or her :D :p

her? there is a woman on court?

[Jessica]

Hmm...Its great to see Lin Dan talking to LCW friendly..Actually i found Lin Dan is more polite and mature nowadays..I begin to like him more and more..

[robin7]

I saw a Penang flag from the crowd.

[vching]

Oops, that's copyright from Krisna and badMania.:p:D

oooohhh.... feisty... I Like! :D:D:D

[vching]

I saw a Penang flag from the crowd.

huh? Penang flag????? :confused::confused::confused: why?

[taufik-ist]

Stopping LD in OG at his home ground would be extra difficult now with his current form.

can he mantain his current form until OG ???

[Jessica]

Congratulation LD.......LCW is not at his peak......its OK.....as long as LCW peak at the right time...........OG....someone will be in troubles.....heheheAiya..Jason,give some credit to Lin Dan lar..He did play well today and verify his injured in not really that serious..:D:D:p

[ye333]

Are they due to LD playing well or are they due to LCW too nervous?

Others: Lin 24, Lee 10. Sharp contrast! :cool:

[george@chongwei]

haizz.
lee chong wei lost:crying::crying::crying::crying::rolleyes:

[eaglehelang]

I am surprised LD did not 'throw this game away' ;)

... and LCW is looking like 'no mood' tonight also. :p

LD is against non China player, you know very well he wont. THe others also hint/comment along this lines, much more direct/sarcastic than me.

LCW no mood? why? sick kah? Last wk against CJ also like lemah only, dunno why
Lars/Jonas during MO 08 Semi also look no mood/out of focus for some reason, many ppl also comment mah

[Jessica]

can he mantain his current form until OG ???
I don't know..I just hope LCW will not be like this anymore in the Olympic game..:rolleyes:

[george@chongwei]

I don't know..I just hope LCW will not be like this anymore in the Olympic game..:rolleyes:
he didnt play smash in the `1st set,

[Jessica]

Are they due to LD playing well or are they due to LCW too nervous?

Others: Lin 24, Lee 10. Sharp contrast! :cool:
Sigh..LCW keep making all the unforced error and giving Lin Dan free points today..:(

[ye333]

I say no problem. After the 2nd WC LD is a very mature and confident player now. If anyone wants to beat him, the only thing they can do is to play better than him. :cool:


can he mantain his current form until OG ???

[robin7]

Hmm...Its great to see Lin Dan talking to LCW friendly..Actually i found Lin Dan is more polite and mature nowadays..I begin to like him more and more..
Aiya, since LD doesn't have any friends, LCW just befriend with him lah.:p

[jasonmarc]

Hmm...Its great to see Lin Dan talking to LCW friendly..Actually i found Lin Dan is more polite and mature nowadays..I begin to like him more and more..

He has to....other wise..he will have no friends ......not with TH,..LHI...PSH...PG...KJ........:D:D:D....kidding only...

[george@chongwei]

Sigh..LCW keep making all the unforced error and giving Lin Dan free points today..:(
i think because of the fans la...keep shouting and giving pressure to chong wei.:rolleyes:

[Jessica]

he didnt play smash in the `1st set,
George..My father was kinda frustrated when he saw LCW play like this and he went up after the first game because he no eye see..:D:D:D

[jasonmarc]

Sigh..LCW keep making all the unforced error and giving Lin Dan free points today..:(

Unforced errors......a total display of trick shots....??:mad:

[ye333]

Sounds like what I predicted... LCW crumbled under pressure. The problem is he doesn't have real confidence when facing LD, just like LD used to be lack of confidence when facing TH. :cool:


Sigh..LCW keep making all the unforced error and giving Lin Dan free points today..:(

[extremenanopowe]

well, normally the favourites doesn't win OG. So, the pressure is on LD to maintain his form. The trouble now is that there's no other player except LCW who can stop China domination. Any other countries you can think of? Again, credit to china for having so many talents. Lets see what happens when come to the OG. No point speculating.

[Jessica]

Aiya, since LD doesn't have any friends, LCW just befriend with him lah.:p
Ho..Ho..:D:D:DI thought BCL will be Lin Dan best friend..My father say he realy admire china peoples very much because they put their honour behind the country glory..Look at BCL,he just lost to Lin Dan yesterday but today can guide him to against his opponent..:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[efong]

kah kah kah kah, this is really hilarious. LD recovered super duper fast from injury.:D:D:D

Well said!! Wonder what kind of medicine can cure his "knee injury" so fast? I think all other players can ask him for the "recipe" !!

[taufik-ist]

her? there is a woman on court?

i meant you must take sides againts your girlfriend's choice :D

[jasonmarc]

Ho..Ho..:D:D:DI thought BCL will be Lin Dan best friend..My father say he realy admire china peoples very much because they put their honour behind the country glory..Look at BCL,he just lost to Lin Dan yesterday but today can guide him to against his opponent..:rolleyes::rolleyes:

If not LYB .....he wouldnt do that....;)

[yen_saw]

can he mantain his current form until OG ???

Thomas cup will be a good indication

[eaglehelang]

huh? Penang flag????? :confused::confused::confused: why?

LCW from Penang lah.

[ye333]

That medicine is called "love of your country" and "power of the ideology of the Party". :D


Well said!! Wonder what kind of medicine can cure his "knee injury" so fast? I think all other players can ask him for the "recipe" !!

[Jessica]

Sounds like what I predicted... LCW crumbled under pressure. The problem is he doesn't have real confidence when facing LD, just like LD used to be lack of confidence when facing TH. :cool:
Sigh..Confidence matter again..Well,i think you are right about Lin Dan ability to read the shots very well which is his biggest weapon..In today match,he can read every shot that return by LCW while LCW is not that good..:rolleyes:

[jasonmarc]

Well said!! Wonder what kind of medicine can cure his "knee injury" so fast? I think all other players can ask him for the "recipe" !!


Not for sales....only for Chn players...especially LYB's player only...its..P & C......shiiiiiiii:D:D:D

[ye333]

Indeed. With CY/FHF not in good form, LD will not have the luxury to play half-heartedly as he did in 07 Sudirman.


Thomas cup will be a good indication

[Jessica]

If not LYB .....he wouldnt do that....;)
Ya lor..LYB is the king and the boss here..:rolleyes::rolleyes:P.S,my father don't know LYB trick so he will say like this..

[vching]

i meant you must take sides againts your girlfriend's choice :D

real dilemma...... :D:D:D

[badMania]

Oops, that's copyright from Krisna and badMania.:p:D

Excuse me????? :cool:

[robin7]

Are they due to LD playing well or are they due to LCW too nervous?

Others: Lin 24, Lee 10. Sharp contrast! :cool:
Yeah, too many errors from LCW (mostly unforced).

LD anticipated the shots very well and replied some seemingly unretrievable shots, that frustrated LCW and he started making unforced errors. LCW was shouting in frustration towards the end of the 2nd game (trailing 17-18, I guess) when he sent the shuttle into the net.

[F-38-I]

Can ENG beat CHN? I hope they can. For now, 4 countries have the opportunity to win XD in OG, they are INA,CHN, KOR & ENG. CHN & ENG have many good XD pairs than the rest.

[badMania]

I say no problem. After the 2nd WC LD is a very mature and confident player now. If anyone wants to beat him, the only thing they can do is to play better than him. :cool:

Lin Dan is the favorite for the Beijing Olympics. It will be his gold medal to lose now. However, I still think he still has this one little worry about Taufik Hidayat ;)

[juste_millieu]

any livestream?

[Jessica]

Lin Dan is the favorite for the Beijing Olympics. It will be his gold medal to lose now. However, I still think he still has this one little worry about Taufik Hidayat ;)
I thought he should worry about his first round opponent..:D:D

[taufik-ist]

Excuse me????? :cool:

yeah... badmania.. ask him what robin meant that... i'm curious :eek:

[yen_saw]

well, normally the favourites doesn't win OG. So, the pressure is on LD to maintain his form. The trouble now is that there's no other player except LCW who can stop China domination. Any other countries you can think of? Again, credit to china for having so many talents. Lets see what happens when come to the OG. No point speculating.

Well he is also the favorite here right? His first round exit on the previous OG will also serve a great reminder for him to play better in the coming OG. It is not speculating, just predicting.

[volcom]

I predict Bao Chunlai will crumble again at OG... like CH crumbles in important games...

[ye333]

Maybe it's better for LCW to put himself down a little bit, to the level of PSH. Just keep the game going, don't think too much about winning.

It's interesting that it seems even Sairul was thinking about beating LD. He crumbled when that task seemed unreachable in 1st game at 13:15. :cool:


Yeah, too many errors from LCW (mostly unforced).

LD anticipated the shots very well and replied some seemingly unretrievable shots, that frustrated LCW and he started making unforced errors. LCW was shouting in frustration towards the end of the 2nd game (trailing 17-18, I guess) when he sent the shuttle into the net.

[jasonmarc]

Lin Dan is the favorite for the Beijing Olympics. It will be his gold medal to lose now. However, I still think he still has this one little worry about Taufik Hidayat ;)

A statement would made by a thru ....INA supporter...or a Indonesian...:D:D

[pjswift]

Are they due to LD playing well or are they due to LCW too nervous?

Others: Lin 24, Lee 10. Sharp contrast! :cool:
There's no rule to credit a player who hits more winners.
NSS favours the one who commits a lot less unforced errors.
LCW gifted LD in G1 but LD deserved it because he was clearly prepared and came out firing.
LCW's performance in G2 is a good sign even if he lost.

[eaglehelang]

You mean you don't know that Li Yongbo is an aconite that can heal people?

He used his Paladin powers to heal Lin Dan!

All praise lord Lin.

:D:D:D, kah kah kah, I know, I dont say so direct mah. Let you all have chance to say, he he he.

[yen_saw]

If chinese XD won the match, LYB will have a break from all the critics on him for a moment.

[ye333]

I agree. LD is different from the previous "most favorites". ZJH in 92 is old; DJ, TH and LD in 96,00,04 are young prodigies, they were too excited and thought they can crush anyone.

LD in 08 is at his best (physically + mentally).


Well he is also the favorite here right? His first round exit on the previous OG will also serve a great reminder for him to play better in the coming OG. It is not speculating, just predicting.

[ye333]

Sounds like you misunderstood me.

I ask because I think on paper, LD only has slight advantage; So there must be a reason, either LD played super-well and forced LCW to make many errors, or LCW cannot deal with his winning desire and forced himself to make many errors.


There's no rule to credit a player who hits more winners.
NSS favours the one who commits a lot less unforced errors.
LCW gifted LD in G1 but LD deserved it because he was clearly prepared and came out firing.
LCW's performance in G2 is a good sign even if he lost.

[ants]

Lindan played faster today. Chong Wei was not himself.

[ye333]

Acutally I think CW is "returning to his old self" now. The new, calm, and confident player emerged in French Open 07 has gone. :cool:


Lindan played faster today. Chong Wei was not himself.

[Loh]

I thought he should worry about his first round opponent..:D:D

It is fated that he will meet RS again...and what? ....no prize for guessing the right answer! :eek:;):rolleyes:

[Jessica]

It is fated that he will meet RS again...and what? ....no prize for guessing the right answer! :eek:;):rolleyes:
Hmm..If yes..I don't mind the history repeat here once again..:D:D

[laonong]

Ho..Ho..:D:D:DI thought BCL will be Lin Dan best friend..My father say he realy admire china peoples very much because they put their honour behind the country glory..Look at BCL,he just lost to Lin Dan yesterday but today can guide him to against his opponent..:rolleyes::rolleyes:


I do not think so. It's just they are a team. If the team wins, each member of the team will be happy. BCL is not happy for his loss to LD. But when LD played with other team member, BCL will be offer his help for LD.

[Zealous]

No !! Chong wei lost already.....Did he played really bad in the first game ? I didn't watch any of the game.

[robin7]

Maybe it's better for LCW to put himself down a little bit, to the level of PSH. Just keep the game going, don't think too much about winning.
I'm not sure what would have happened if LCW managed to take the 2nd game since he was playing much better in the 2nd game.

[ye333]

The real reason: BCL helped LD in 07 Sudirman and LD lost to LCW. BCL wants to save his reputation. :D


I do not think so. It's just they are a team. If the team wins, each member of the team will be happy. BCL is not happy for his loss to LD. But when LD played with other team member, BCL will be offer his help for LD.

[Misty100]

Gosh all those BS about LD's injury, i just wish one day in the very new future he's really really badly injured... :p

[yen_saw]

Appear to be that no one is interested with the XD game ;)

[jasonmarc]

Looks like chn is going to collect 4 out of 5 titles in SO 08....

[ye333]

Well. To me this match has some resemblance to LD vs. TH WC05 final. LCW may have played better in 2nd game, but is that enough to take the game from LD?

The point is, if you are not calm but your opponent is, it's more likely that you will not be able to seal the game. :cool:


I'm not sure what would have happened if LCW managed to take the 2nd game since he was playing much better in the 2nd game.

[dannyang]

The real reason: BCL helped LD in 07 Sudirman and LD lost to LCW. BCL wants to save his reputation. :D

haha, good point.

[singhzico]

:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::c rying::crying::crying::crying:
No !! Chong wei lost already.....Did he played really bad in the first game ? I didn't watch any of the game.
I guess so

[badMania]

First set to He Hanbin/Yu Yang.

[eaglehelang]

Acutally I think CW is "returning to his old self" now. The new, calm, and confident player emerged in French Open 07 has gone. :cool:

That new, calm, confident LCW appeared during MO 2008. KO he fell ill, TC qualifers he wasnt that tested sicne his opponents werent strong.

In AE & Swiss, <shrug>. But Samuel saw yesterday's match & said LCW seemed distracted, like Ants said LCW not usual self. The real deal only LCW, Misbun, maybe WMC knows.

[bananakid]

Well. To me this match has some resemblance to LD vs. TH WC05 final. LCW may have played better in 2nd game, but is that enough to take the game from LD?

The point is, if you are not calm but your opponent is, it's more likely that you will not be able to seal the game. :cool:

If one can not control his emotion in a Super series final, how is one supposed to control his emotion in any other bigger match?

Maybe it is now time for LCW to go and play in the Canadian open to start prepare for the OG...:rolleyes:

He may get to meet bananakid in the final... well... maybe not the Canadian open but the Yonex Alberta series...LOL. I won't pressure him too much with my skill.

[jasonmarc]

haha, good point.

Ya....During the breaks.......BCL talk to LD...
BCL : LD,..you have to fight real hard....remember...there is no linesman from chn here....so you have to win by your self here......:D

[dannyang]

Looks like chn is going to collect 4 out of 5 titles in SO 08....

LYB doesn't want his players to peak too early, so performed badly in previous ss.
and now, team CHN bounced back strongly in the last SS before OG.

[Jessica]

Ya....During the breaks.......BCL talk to LD...
BCL : LD,..you have to fight real hard....remember...there is no linesman from chn here....so you have to win by your self here......:D
Ha..ha...This is so funny...Jason,your talent in creating jokes improve a lot..:D:D:D

[robin7]

It is fated that he will meet RS again...and what? ....no prize for guessing the right answer! :eek:;):rolleyes:
I have to agree with u. LD is very vulnerable in early rounds even at his homeground.:eek::rolleyes:

[singhzico]

Looks like chn is going to collect 4 out of 5 titles in SO 08....
:eek::cool::p
I hope that is not the case in the og

[taufik-ist]

OMG.. i must offline... 2 bad i cant support mk/hs

Badmania... cheer them aloud :) :)

[LEE87]

seem like no one interest with XD match

[jamesd20]

Just to Keep People Updated on XD match He/Yu lead 11-2 at interval.

Looks like a job well done to them.

[apontoh]

seem like no one interest with XD match

I'm supporting England, but they seem like a lost cause. I don't understand how Clark/Kellogg managed to beat World no3 and Wolrd no 1 in the last 2 days....their defence is terrible.

[ye333]

That's exactly true.

LD is lucky in some sense because TH basically stopped pursuing badminton glory after 05 WC. In 06, even after winning his 1st WC, LD was still not truly confident, as we can see in his clashes with a much weaker TH. But after 07 WC I think LD was fully mature.


If one can not control his emotion in a Super series final, how is one supposed to control his emotion in any other bigger match?

Maybe it is now time for LCW to go and play in the Canadian open to start prepare for the OG...:rolleyes:

He may get to meet bananakid in the final... well... maybe not the Canadian open but the Yonex Alberta series...LOL. I won't pressure him too much with my skill.

[badders2006]

Eng XD are geting PWNED by CHINA!

[dannyang]

If one can not control his emotion in a Super series final, how is one supposed to control his emotion in any other bigger match?

Maybe it is now time for LCW to go and play in the Canadian open to start prepare for the OG...:rolleyes:

He may get to meet bananakid in the final... well... maybe not the Canadian open but the Yonex Alberta series...LOL. I won't pressure him too much with my skill.

maybe LCW should go to Australia and play in Canberra Open, and he will meet Dannyang in the final. however, do remember: don't participate NSW (NEW SOUTH WALES) Open, since Dannyang can only play in low level Canberra open, or uni games.
and I won't pressure him too.

[jasonmarc]

Just come a cross a report in the link below...
http://www.badmintoncn.com/News/a/200803/20080315162221.html

Reported there will be NO punishment for LD rough action in recent KO 08....

[hunghing]

dannyang the loser

[badders2006]

CHN regain their dominance after a poor AE. 4 out of 5 golds!

[robin7]

Acutally I think CW is "returning to his old self" now. The new, calm, and confident player emerged in French Open 07 has gone. :cool:
I guess u r right, the desire of winning has added unnecessary pressure to LCW. Hopefully, he can take today's defeat easy and move on.:)

[hunghing]

CHN regain their dominance after a poor AE. 4 out of 5 golds!
anything news?
next one pls
zzzzzzzzz

[carine]

CHN XD won it...

[apontoh]

does He/Yu overtake Flandy/Vita or Xie/Zhang in the world rankings next week??

[eaglehelang]

If one can not control his emotion in a Super series final, how is one supposed to control his emotion in any other bigger match?

Maybe it is now time for LCW to go and play in the Canadian open to start prepare for the OG...:rolleyes:

He may get to meet bananakid in the final... well... maybe not the Canadian open but the Yonex Alberta series...LOL. I won't pressure him too much with my skill.

Ehemm, ye333 is actually China supporter.
As for controlling emotion during SS finals, LCW has won quite a number, including against Taufik. Was quite ok against LD in HK 2007, taking into account his knee injury then.:)

[Jessica]

dannyang the loser
What happened???:confused::confused::rolleyes:

[bananakid]

I am back now to watch XD

[badMania]

Easy task for He Hanbin/Yu Yang as they win their 2nd SS titles this year.

[jasonmarc]

:eek::cool::p
I hope that is not the case in the og

their motto in OG is '保三，追四，爭五’They accually aim higher than 4 golds..;)

[dannyang]

I am back now to watch XD

you have to wait until next year SO.
HHB/YY won already.

[bananakid]

Ehemm, ye333 is actually China supporter.
As for controlling emotion during SS finals, LCW has won quite a number, including against Taufik. Was quite ok against LD in HK 2007, taking into account his knee injury then.:)

It has nothing to do with "insert country name" supporter... this is about discussion of why some players perform well, while other don't. Not about making up loads of excuses and pretend that one player is still doing fine when in fact it is not the case.

[apontoh]

the interviwer just answered my question. He/Yu will be world no 4. So that means they're off to BEijing, whereas Xie/Zhang looks to have been dumped byLYB.

[ye333]

There there. I guess LCW indeed took into account that he was injured in HKO 07 and thought, I have no injury this time, I should be able to beat LD, and when LD seemed stronger than he thought, he got frustrated. :cool:


Ehemm, ye333 is actually China supporter.
As for controlling emotion during SS finals, LCW has won quite a number, including against Taufik. Was quite ok against LD in HK 2007, taking into account his knee injury then.:)

[ye333]

I think eagle is expressing her new discovery. :D

I am always happy when LD is truly strong and win without any controversy.

But on the other hand, I don't think LD is superior to LCW by this much (21:13). So to me, the situation is comparable to LD vs. TH WC05 final, where LD was by no means so much inferior to TH (3:15).


It has nothing to do with "insert country name" supporter... this is about discussion of why some players perform well, while other don't. Not about making up loads of excuses and pretend that one player is still doing fine when in fact it is not the case.

[Krisna]

an excuse is in the making before the md match begins :p :p :D


Oops, that's copyright from Krisna and badMania.:p:D

?!?! :confused: What copyright? :p :confused: :p

[jamesd20]

how are you guys/gals watching the game? internet link pls....:)

[eaglehelang]

There there. I guess LCW indeed took into account that he was injured in HKO 07 and thought, I have no injury this time, I should be able to beat LD, and when LD seemed stronger than he thought, he got frustrated. :cool:

huh? Was trying to support your earlier statement ye333.

[ye333]

Sorry if I offend you...


huh? Was trying to support your earlier statement ye333.

[F-38-I]

Please stop attacking players & people here! I just wanna enjoy the matches here. Please....?! I don't mind if my players lose or win, I still give them a respect. It's not easy being on court to fight for our country, I definitely can't do that.

[robin7]

does He/Yu overtake Flandy/Vita or Xie/Zhang in the world rankings next week??
I heard the interviewer saying CHN will have 3 XD pairs in the top 4 and possibly taking all 3 medals in Olympic. I'm not sure how true it is.

[eaglehelang]

It has nothing to do with "insert country name" supporter... this is about discussion of why some players perform well, while other don't. Not about making up loads of excuses and pretend that one player is still doing fine when in fact it is not the case.

Aiyoo, trying to 'support' ye333's statement-lah, no giving excuse. Try to support others can kena, <sigh>

LOL, in real life of Msian badminton, any reason given by the players/coaches, including injury, is considered an excuse. And definitely LCW has to answer to NSC, BAM when he comes back to Msia - NSC & BAM not happy how come can lose to CJ tamely during AE.
Tonite also, LCW is answerable as to 'how come didnt put up a fight?' That's the real scenario, no pretension.

[LI De Quan]

I heard the interviewer saying CHN will have 3 XD pairs in the top 4 and possibly taking all 3 medals in Olympic. I'm not sure how it is.
Almost impossible!!
HE , YU are acting very well those days!!
They may rank NO.4 and XIE/ZHANG will be the unlucky one!!
(XIE/ZHANG will not participate in INDIA Open while HE/YU is the top seed)

[jamesd20]

And definitely LCW has to answer to NSC, BAM when he comes back to Msia - NSC & BAM no happy how come can lose to CJ tamely. Tonite also, LCW is answerable as to 'how come didnt put up a fight?' That's the real scenario, no pretension
If this is true (and I am not doubting you) then there is no wonder LCW cannot perform at his peak in finals. He will be fearing losing, rather than being confident of winning. BAM/NSC must surely review this?

[badMania]

Almost impossible!!
HE , YU are acting very well those days!!
They may rank NO.4 and XIE/ZHANG will be the unlucky one!!
(XIE/ZHANG will not participate in INDIA Open while HE/YU is the top seed)

Yup....it's virtually a slim chance for Xie/Zhang to be involved in the Olympics nowadays.

[ye333]

Very good point indeed.

So maybe MAS players' minds are not weak but BAM made them so. :cool:


If this is true (and I am not doubting you) then there is no wonder LCW cannot perform at his peak in finals. He will be fearing losing, rather than being confident of winning. BAM/NSC must surely review this?

[zqloy]

Almost impossible!!
HE , YU are acting very well those days!!
They may rank NO.4 and XIE/ZHANG will be the unlucky one!!
(XIE/ZHANG will not participate in INDIA Open while HE/YU is the top seed)

He Yu "acting" very well? LD is better for my opinion :p
U mean "playing" very well is it?
Btw pity XZB/ZYW, what is the prob i wonder... perhaps is the parter trusting problem as well?

[eaglehelang]

how are you guys/gals watching the game? internet link pls....:)
Sorry James, no livestream. Only Astro.
You have implore on Robin, Samuel, Carine,those with Astro to describe the match. Looks like they've gone to watch or tea break during WD.

[robin7]

Almost impossible!!
HE , YU are acting very well those days!!
They may rank NO.4 and XIE/ZHANG will be the unlucky one!!
(XIE/ZHANG will not participate in INDIA Open while HE/YU is the top seed)
It is really frustrating to be dumped ut at the last minute. Favoritism again!:(:o

[robin7]

Sorry James, no livestream. Only Astro.
You have implore on Robin, Samuel, Carine,those with Astro to describe the match. Looks like they've gone to watch or tea break during WD.
Going out and be back for MD....

[jamesd20]

Btw pity XZB/ZYW, what is the prob i wonder... perhaps is the parter trusting problem as well?

For me, this pair will never be a top top pair. XZB is too big and stiff to cope with faster play and when they are defending and despite his size his Smash is not very big. ZY is not much of a problem really, although sometimes makes mistakes at critical points.

He/Yu are much faster and powerful, with this added manueverability they can overcome difficult situations that can lead to match changing results.

[badMania]

Indeed, with this title in the Swiss Open, He/Yu will be ranked no 3.
He Hanbin/Yu Yang -- 68850 (need to defend 7000 Asian Championships title though)
Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa -- 68180
Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen -- 66760 (no India Open, only Badminton Asia Championships left...and HAVE TO WIN IT to be guaranteed a spot!)

[X Ball]

Aiyoo, trying to 'support' ye333's statement-lah, no giving excuse. Try to support others can kena, <sigh>

LOL, in real life of Msian badminton, any reason given by the players/coaches, including injury, is considered an excuse. And definitely LCW has to answer to NSC, BAM when he comes back to Msia - NSC & BAM not happy how come can lose to CJ tamely during AE.
Tonite also, LCW is answerable as to 'how come didnt put up a fight?' That's the real scenario, no pretension.

Well shouldn't he have to account if he loses tamely ? I would want to know too if I can get him to report to me.

Sponsors will not stay if players are not made accountable for weak performances.

[jamesd20]

Sorry James, no livestream. Only Astro.
You have implore on Robin, Samuel, Carine,those with Astro to describe the match. Looks like they've gone to watch or tea break during WD.

do none of the streaming programs have astro then?

I knew only Astro showing, just couldn't find them on the programs I have.

thnks

[badders2006]

For me, this pair will never be a top top pair. XZB is too big and stiff to cope with faster play and when they are defending and despite his size his Smash is not very big. ZY is not much of a problem really, although sometimes makes mistakes at critical points.

He/Yu are much faster and powerful, with this added manueverability they can overcome difficult situations that can lead to match changing results.
i agree with your points about XZB, he is a big guy (perhaps too big) and his manueverability is compromised as a result. and his smash technique is strange.. he is very full frontal when he smashes, and the end product is not all that awesome. perhaps a change of technique (to something similar to FHF?) is the answer but not sure. HHB and YY have more potential. Still XZB and ZYW very consistent.

[X Ball]

do none of the streaming programs have astro then?

I knew only Astro showing, just couldn't find them on the programs I have.

thnks


ASTRO is a Malaysian satellite broadcast TV station -- paid TV.

[ye333]

An interesting thing is that Flandy/Vita played far from well this year. As if they would like to see 3 Chinese pairs in OG. :D


Indeed, with this title in the Swiss Open, He/Yu will be ranked no 3.
He Hanbin/Yu Yang -- 68850 (need to defend 7000 Asian Championships title though)
Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa -- 68180
Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen -- 66760 (no India Open, only Badminton Asia Championships left...and HAVE TO WIN IT to be guaranteed a spot!)

[drifit]

headshot...................:p:p:p

[jamesd20]

Well shouldn't he have to account if he loses tamely ? I would want to know too if I can get him to report to me.

Sponsors will not stay if players are not made accountable for weak performances.

Players are accountable for losing, but it will not improve their future performances if they are given a grilling by administrators and sponsors as to why they lost.

This is what the coach should do, and then the coach should absorb this criticism then alter it into a positive outcome for the player himself. You must remember that the players are not politicians, businessmen and hard nose individuals who can shrug off this pressure. They are basically kids who have athletic capability and who must be guided into realising this capability into results.

If they receive this grilling which they are not trained to take (they are trained to play) then they will have severe mental problems both in their training and then in their gameplay.

[ye333]

Xie/Zhang is actually pretty strong when they played well...

I guess they have too much pressure. And don't forget HHB does not need to worry about MD.


For me, this pair will never be a top top pair. XZB is too big and stiff to cope with faster play and when they are defending and despite his size his Smash is not very big. ZY is not much of a problem really, although sometimes makes mistakes at critical points.

He/Yu are much faster and powerful, with this added manueverability they can overcome difficult situations that can lead to match changing results.

[eaglehelang]

If this is true (and I am not doubting you) then there is no wonder LCW cannot perform at his peak in finals. He will be fearing losing, rather than being confident of winning. BAM/NSC must surely review this?

"Msian hordes" cannot comment, will be considered too bias, he he.

Errrr, that's the review loh, review why fail in AE. For sure NSC & BAM want to meet up with the players & coaches when they come back to hear '"from the horses mouth what are the problems" and 'worried with players' performance'. This came out in the malay press Berita Harian, 10 & 12 March 2008. Later also in Malay Mail, after AE losses.
Basically, it's the heightened anxiety as to the OG medal chase. Normal-lah, this kind of thing.

[ye333]

Exactly. LYB did very well (maybe too well sometimes :D ) on this aspect.


Players are accountable for losing, but it will not improve their future performances if they are given a grilling by administrators and sponsors as to why they lost.

This is what the coach should do, and then the coach should absorb this criticism then alter it into a positive outcome for the player himself. You must remember that the players are not politicians, businessmen and hard nose individuals who can shrug off this pressure. They are basically kids who have athletic capability and who must be guided into realising this capability into results.

If they receive this grilling which they are not trained to take (they are trained to play) then they will have severe mental problems both in their training and then in their gameplay.

[jamesd20]

ASTRO is a Malaysian satellite broadcast TV station -- paid TV.

Can you pay to watch it over the net then?

[drifit]

Can you pay to watch it over the net then?

opssss........ not available :(

[F-38-I]

Hoahm... I get sleepy, maybe wanna sleep for an hour, hope not miss the last match. Gud nite everyone!

[jasonmarc]

Indeed, with this title in the Swiss Open, He/Yu will be ranked no 3.
He Hanbin/Yu Yang -- 68850 (need to defend 7000 Asian Championships title though)
Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa -- 68180
Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen -- 66760 (no India Open, only Badminton Asia Championships left...and HAVE TO WIN IT to be guaranteed a spot!)

Wow...how about MS....CJ...after withdrawed from Swiss Open...out of No.4 already ...?

[badMania]

An interesting thing is that Flandy/Vita played far from well this year. As if they would like to see 3 Chinese pairs in OG. :D

They look disinterested...maybe the big bonuses at the end of the year (esp for Vita Marissa) did distract them a little bit :cool:

Basically, INA is only relying on them for the Olympics 2008....no big hope also...maybe a bronze medal? The big hope is till on the ever so inconsistent Nova/Butet.

[drifit]

Hoahm... I get sleepy, maybe wanna sleep for an hour, hope not miss the last match. Gud nite everyone!

sweetdream till morning..............:)

[jamesd20]

i agree with your points about XZB, he is a big guy (perhaps too big) and his manueverability is compromised as a result. and his smash technique is strange.. he is very full frontal when he smashes, and the end product is not all that awesome. perhaps a change of technique (to something similar to FHF?) is the answer but not sure. HHB and YY have more potential. Still XZB and ZYW very consistent.

I nickname him the robot...I always think he looks so stiff and limited when he plays. unlike ZB who appears very supple despite his large build.

Yes they are consistent, but only to a point, when playing mid level pairs I would back them every time, but against top players in QF onwards I do not have confidence, maybe only 30%, this can mean sometimes they win if opponents have off day, but mostly they will lose at this stage.

He/Yu hav potential to grow into good pair, they are still young (22?)

[X Ball]

Players are accountable for losing, but it will not improve their future performances if they are given a grilling by administrators and sponsors as to why they lost.

This is what the coach should do, and then the coach should absorb this criticism then alter it into a positive outcome for the player himself. You must remember that the players are not politicians, businessmen and hard nose individuals who can shrug off this pressure. They are basically kids who have athletic capability and who must be guided into realising this capability into results.

If they receive this grilling which they are not trained to take (they are trained to play) then they will have severe mental problems both in their training and then in their gameplay.

I respect what you said and I believe it could be detrimental if they are pressurised in that sense. Perhaps I should have clarified more -- every time I read in the press on the players being interviewed it always has to do with BAM trying to ask in the most proper way what went wrong and BAM trying to help them sort out their problems, even though they were told that they need to change.

And this is why some people here think BAM is too soft with the players. I think some kind of accountability is good because it would make them not stray from their objectives. As you said they are young (and are not politicians) and they tend to lose focus sometimes. It is no different from being told off by the teachers in class.

[badMania]

This is what the coach should do, and then the coach should absorb this criticism then alter it into a positive outcome for the player himself. You must remember that the players are not politicians, businessmen and hard nose individuals who can shrug off this pressure. They are basically kids who have athletic capability and who must be guided into realising this capability into results.


That's why many top coaches have left MAS. Rexy was also thinking of leaving..not once....twice!

[jamesd20]

opssss........ not available :(

business oppurtunity missed by them.....I have my Cdt Card numbers on hand for when they do!

Meanwhile WD is meandering towards the end.....21-18 and 5-2 to Zhang/Yang

[drifit]

business oppurtunity missed by them.....I have my Cdt Card numbers on hand for when they do!

Meanwhile WD is meandering towards the end.....21-18 and 5-2 to Zhang/Yang

now is 8-6..............:D

[eaglehelang]

Well shouldn't he have to account if he loses tamely ? I would want to know too if I can get him to report to me.

Sponsors will not stay if players are not made accountable for weak performances.

:D was refering to earlier posts. Bananakid mis-interpret my reply.
Yeah, LCW also must give you 20 page explaination. Not forgetting WMC for 'losing tamely' to Zhou Mi (that was the headline in the Star), he he
KKK/TBH 100 pages plus XXXX punishments ;). who else , master X ball?

[X Ball]

That's why many top coaches have left MAS. Rexy was also thinking of leaving..not once....twice!

Rexy believes in the 'stick' to get them focused. Young players will lose focus - it is a tough sport and you have to be very disciplined to keep winning.

[jamesd20]

I think some kind of accountability is good because it would make them not stray from their objectives. As you said they are young (and are not politicians) and they tend to lose focus sometimes. It is no different from being told off by the teachers in class.

Yes some accountability is required, but is it the form of this accountability that is the most crucial. For example in MAS I get the impression that the players who have performed in the past will continue to be backed with finance and resources as MAS believe they will perform again. If they don't MAS want to know why. (eg Hafiz)

In ENG there is a monetary system wherby the players are accountable for themselves. There is different level of funding availble to players depending on there level of performances over the last xyrs. If they don't perform then coaches and psychologists may well help them understand why but at the end of the day if they continue to underperform they will lose funding and therfore drop off the chart.

I am not saying MAS/ENG are good/bad, just that there must be a better way to improve MAS performances. MAS players have equal or similar talent to CHN players, but never seem to make it.

[X Ball]

:D was refering to earlier posts. Bananakid mis-interpret my reply.
Yeah, LCW also must give you 20 page explaination. Not forgetting WMC for 'losing tamely' to Zhou Mi (that was the headline in the Star), he he
KKK/TBH 100 pages plus XXXX punishments ;). who else , master X ball?


Hahaha, I only need his explanation for the AE loss. For SO, I think LD played too well.

[jasonmarc]

:D was refering to earlier posts. Bananakid mis-interpret my reply.
Yeah, LCW also must give you 20 page explaination. Not forgetting WMC for 'losing tamely' to Zhou Mi (that was the headline in the Star), he he
KKK/TBH 100 pages plus XXXX punishments ;). who else , master X ball?

What about HH....dont he also need to present You a very tick book of reports........:D

[badders2006]

I nickname him the robot...I always think he looks so stiff and limited when he plays. unlike ZB who appears very supple despite his large build.

Yes they are consistent, but only to a point, when playing mid level pairs I would back them every time, but against top players in QF onwards I do not have confidence, maybe only 30%, this can mean sometimes they win if opponents have off day, but mostly they will lose at this stage.

He/Yu hav potential to grow into good pair, they are still young (22?)
hehe yeh the Robot is quite apt nickname for him. I think ppl give his smash more credit than it deserves. ZB is very similar to Zhang Jun in many respects and perhaps that is why the GL/ZB partnership is so strong. I have always regarded XZB/ZYW as a pair which will help clear the way for the no.1 pair, which was ZJ/GL and now ZB/GL. However, it appears HHB/YY have the potential to be considered a pair which can "share the glory" with ZB/GL but its still too early to say that.
are England scared of CHN players? how did Eng beat IND's 2 top XD pairs and then wilt in the final. As sooon as I saw Clark/Kellogg make the final I knew HHB/YY had the title wrapped up. I realy do think Eng are intimidated by the CHN to a material extent.

[jamesd20]

Rexy believes in the 'stick' to get them focused. Young players will lose focus - it is a tough sport and you have to be very disciplined to keep winning.

There is another point. When KKK/TBH, Zakry/Latif, Lin/Tazary came out and rexy was in sole chage of them they improved, got good results, then their form dropped off. Why? Yes opposition may have worked out how to play them, but I would think (knowing what I know now) that it is possible that when the results were rising they were left alone, but once their level plateau'd is it posible that they were held accountable and this extra pressure inhibited their ability to perform?

[badMania]

There is another point. When KKK/TBH, Zakry/Latif, Lin/Tazary came out and rexy was in sole chage of them they improved, got good results, then their form dropped off. Why? Yes opposition may have worked out how to play them, but I would think (knowing what I know now) that it is possible that when the results were rising they were left alone, but once their level plateau'd is it posible that they were held accountable and this extra pressure inhibited their ability to perform?

Exactly...spot on....players who rose up "too fast" tend to crumble mentally when they underachieve subsequently. It's this pressure of "afraid to lose" which sets in into most players. They undergo this phase, including Lin Dan himself I would say.

[badMania]

Oh no...please...no rubber-set please :mad: