Swiss Open Day 6 - Finals (16 Mar)

[jamesd20]

hehe yeh the Robot is quite apt nickname for him. I think ppl give his smash more credit than it deserves. ZB is very similar to Zhang Jun in many respects and perhaps that is why the GL/ZB partnership is so strong. I have always regarded XZB/ZYW as a pair which will help clear the way for the no.1 pair, which was ZJ/GL and now ZB/GL. However, it appears HHB/YY have the potential to be considered a pair which can "share the glory" with ZB/GL but its still too early to say that.
are England scared of CHN players? how did Eng beat IND's 2 top XD pairs and then wilt in the final. As sooon as I saw Clark/Kellogg make the final I knew HHB/YY had the title wrapped up. I realy do think Eng are intimidated by the CHN to a material extent.

I ZB is similar to ZJ but not the same. ZB has more court coverage & defensive capabilities than ZJ, but ZJ had greater smash, and possible a better mental strength (ZB seemed overawed in WC 07).

ENG pairs weaknesses are court coverage and fitness. This is exactly the He/Yu and ZB/GL strengths, so this query IMO can be answered quite simply. Even if ENG pairs get a game off CHN, CHN superior fitness will tell in rubber. Against INA pairs their strengths are skill, which ENG pairs are more comfortable at by playing more tactically.

[X Ball]

Yes some accountability is required, but is it the form of this accountability that is the most crucial. For example in MAS I get the impression that the players who have performed in the past will continue to be backed with finance and resources as MAS believe they will perform again. If they don't MAS want to know why. (eg Hafiz)

Hafiz was only reined in recently after a long spell of non-performance. Even at that, BAM offers to help him coz he said he was not getting enough money to be able to focus. And the pay is not a lot mind you.

In ENG there is a monetary system wherby the players are accountable for themselves. There is different level of funding availble to players depending on there level of performances over the last xyrs. If they don't perform then coaches and psychologists may well help them understand why but at the end of the day if they continue to underperform they will lose funding and therfore drop off the chart.

It is really no different to the Malaysian funding --- we do almost the same whereby the ranked players will earn more.

I am not saying MAS/ENG are good/bad, just that there must be a better way to improve MAS performances. MAS players have equal or similar talent to CHN players, but never seem to make it.

I think the reason is probably because China has a good and large pool of players willing to sacrifice to make it whereas Malaysians are far and a few (parents are more keen to send their players to universities). We are no different from England or others. To get players like LCW, WCH, Hafix (even tho considered 'gone'), Malaysia has done well. Can you imagine us not wanting to spoil these players if they are good ?

[badMania]

Come on Yang/Zhang...finish it in 2 games!
Match pt now....21-20.

[eaglehelang]

Hahaha, I only need his explanation for the AE loss. For SO, I think LD played too well.

AE report for you, Swiss open for NSC & BAM mah.


What about HH....dont he also need to present You a very tick book of reports........:D

No need, Hafiz not going OG, so not in the list that have to explain in next meeting, :D:D


..........
...I am not saying MAS/ENG are good/bad, just that there must be a better way to improve MAS performances. MAS players have equal or similar talent to CHN players, but never seem to make it.

As I replied earlier, normal-lah, must explain & account, this time more anxious cos of upcoming OG. I read what NSC Director & BAM President say also feel the tension. This will continue to heighten & increase till OG

[jasonmarc]

duece.......YW/ZJW....pls dont play rubber...pls..

Ya..match point.......go...go...sigh...duece...again.....zzz ....zzz....zz

[badMania]

Match pt saved...21-21...

[badMania]

Second match pt...22-21....and saved yet again...argghhh...

[jamesd20]

Exactly...spot on....players who rose up "too fast" tend to crumble mentally when they underachieve subsequently. It's this pressure of "afraid to lose" which sets in into most players. They undergo this phase, including Lin Dan himself I would say.

Yes, every player who dominated has had this problem at some point. It is the great players who overcome this. Chen Hong for example never overcame it. Lin is making his way to overcoming it (he has been the best plaer consistently with a few tournament aberrations excepted for the past 4 years.

[X Ball]

Can you pay to watch it over the net then?


No. It is offered as a satellite broadcast only -u need to use a decoder. The only way is to use a dish to train on the signal and hopefully receive but the satellite covers only this region I suspect.

[eaglehelang]

Come on Yang/Zhang...finish it in 2 games!
Match pt now....21-20.

he he you waiting for your mighties to be on

[badMania]

And now 2nd game pt to Wei/Zhang...23-22.

[jamesd20]

As I replied earlier, normal-lah, must explain & account, this time more anxious cos of upcoming OG. I read what NSC Director & BAM President say also feel the tension. This will continue to heighten & increase till OG

I wouldn't expect any MAS players to medal in that case.

[jasonmarc]

Oh..no.....rubber.....? 23 - 22 to WYl/ZYW

[badMania]

Argggghhhhh...rubber-set :crying::mad:

[jasonmarc]

!@#$%%^^.........rubber

[jamesd20]

Gone into third game in WD now. 24-22 to Wei/Zhang

[carine]

aiyo,wanna watch rubber game

[Jessica]

duece.......YW/ZJW....pls dont play rubber...pls..

Ya..match point.......go...go...sigh...duece...again.....zzz ....zzz....zz
Ha..Ha...Jason..Go make some nescafe..:D:D

[Dreamzz]

hahaha, i was all set for the MD as well, at least the spectators get to watch another set.

[ye333]

I actually disagree here. ZJ in 05 maybe, but ZJ in 00,01 is actually pretty strong in defence, and is much fitter than ZB now.


I ZB is similar to ZJ but not the same. ZB has more court coverage & defensive capabilities than ZJ, but ZJ had greater smash, and possible a better mental strength (ZB seemed overawed in WC 07).

[X Ball]

I wouldn't expect any MAS players to medal in that case.


I would not think it is impossible given that anything can happen to LD or LCW can pick up the pace - there is still a few months to the OG.

[ye333]

I would say LD has already overcome it after WC07. Now you have to indeed play better to beat him.


Yes, every player who dominated has had this problem at some point. It is the great players who overcome this. Chen Hong for example never overcame it. Lin is making his way to overcoming it (he has been the best plaer consistently with a few tournament aberrations excepted for the past 4 years.

[jasonmarc]

hahaha, i was all set for the MD as well, at least the spectators get to watch another set.

You see....if these chn players really go all out to play a genuin match....it can be really exciting one...........and its help to promote badminton........but they prefer the other way round..........:mad:

[carine]

YW/ZJW leading 10-6

[jamesd20]

I actually disagree here. ZJ in 05 maybe, but ZJ in 00,01 is actually pretty strong in defence, and is much fitter than ZB now.

Agree...but ZB smash still not in same league as ZJ.

[badMania]

The last phase of the match now, with Yang/Zhang leading 11-6.

[Jessica]

Zzzz..Really sleepy now..But i will wait the MD match..

[jamesd20]

I would say LD has already overcome it after WC07. Now you have to indeed play better to beat him.

True, but the true test of this is to come in OG.

It is also an ongoing test. One which will always end in failure - he will lose at somepoint.

[robin7]

Camon, YW/ZJW 15-8, finish it fast...

[Han]

Rexy believes in the 'stick' to get them focused. Young players will lose focus - it is a tough sport and you have to be very disciplined to keep winning.

I think the key is if the players feel they are not dispensable then the accountability most likely won't be there. Just look at Hafiz, he got more life than the cat. Lots of time, situation is caused by the environment and since no other talent is there waiting at the wing and salary still goes regardless ... you get the picture.
Look at the bright side, Malaysia badminton is still better compare to previous Olympic.

[robin7]

What a long rally, won by YW/ZJW, with ZYW lying on the floor. YW/ZJW 16-8.

[drifit]

seeded 1 work so hard for points..... smashing a lot
seeded 2, defensive............:D

[badMania]

Agree...but ZB smash still not in same league as ZJ.

ye333 mentioned one problem abt INA's XD: usually, the mens are not that powerful, as compared to China's Zheng Bo and now He Hanbin. Agree, because these are the players who usually didn't do well in MD and got another chance at XD.

INA needs to groom one (or more) solid XD pair once Nova Widianto and Flandy Limpele retire after the Olympics.

Right now, we only have Mohd Rijal/Greysia Polii (again, Rijal is the weak link) and the rising pair Tantowi Ahmad/Yulianti (Towi is again the weak link...haizz....).

Maybe as I always have in mind...pair up Lingga Lie with Lilyana Natsir (who definitely needs a pair post Beijing Olympics considering she's only 22 this year!)

As for Devin Lahardi/Lita Nurlita...forget abt it...they will reach top 8 at best and be a credible supporting pair...not the main pair.

[IndoAmerican]

Care to share if you know anywhere to watch on the web?
tvants? which channel?

[robin7]

What a comfortable lead for YW/ZJW 18-8.

[Han]

True, but the true test of this is to come in OG.

Please, even Lin Dan fail in Olympic, he still will be one of the greatest player in my book, he has won numerous titles of AE and WC plus most of the SS, is good enough to qualify. Please don't pick stone from the egg, not fair to Lin Dan.

[eaglehelang]

I wouldn't expect any MAS players to medal in that case.

:D Oh no, Msia players must suck up to it cos "they're funded by the government"(actually 50% government, 50% sponsors) and "pressure is everywhere in the world." 'If cannot cope with the pressure, dont be be a pro baddy player.', they'll say.

Anyway, this kind of pressure has been around for years, the players know it from young. We'll see how well they cope with it this time around. It's LCW's 2nd OG, the MD uncles 3rd.

[robin7]

Match pt for the defending champions 20-8.

Yes, YW/ZJW did it in 64".

[jamesd20]

Looking objectively these days there is a lack of really big smashers.

Gone are the days of LDS, HTK, Halim who had enormous smashes. The current MD players emphasis is speed and clever defending.

[carine]

YW/ZJW won it...congrats

[badMania]

Okay...Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen pick up another SS title, winning in rubber-sets against their teammates Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen 21-18, 22-24, 21-8.

Now on to the Final match of the day....the tense one....I hope Kido/Hendra play to their potential :cool:

[badMania]

Looking objectively these days there is a lack of really big smashers.

Gone are the days of LDS, HTK, Halim who had enormous smashes. The current MD players emphasis is speed and clever defending.

U discount Fu Haifeng with his fastest smash ever :eek:???

Or the chili-padi Markis Kido???

[X Ball]

I think the key is if the players feel they are not dispensable then the accountability most likely won't be there. Just look at Hafiz, he got more life than the cat. Lots of time, situation is caused by the environment and since no other talent is there waiting at the wing and salary still goes regardless ... you get the picture.
Look at the bright side, Malaysia badminton is still better compare to previous Olympic.

They may feel indispensable but they will know the money will not be coming in once they don't perform, like Hafiz.

HAfiz and KKK wanted the incentives and they worked hard and they got it. Sure the fame got to them but it has nothing to do with BAM pampering them - soon as you don't perform don't expect charity. There is no freebee as people seem to think. BAM is not charitable, it does not have deep pockets.

[zqloy]

Looking objectively these days there is a lack of really big smashers.

Gone are the days of LDS, HTK, Halim who had enormous smashes. The current MD players emphasis is speed and clever defending.

MD nowadays emphasis more on front court skills and flat jabbing shots, which is more efficient than smashing. Who is LDS btw? Lee Dong Soo? He is not a big smasher either.

[robin7]

Congratulations to YW/ZJW!

[badMania]

They may feel indispensable but they will know the money will not be coming in once they don't perform, like Hafiz.

HAfiz and KKK wanted the incentives and they worked hard and they got it. Sure the fame got to them but it has nothing to do with BAM pampering them - soon as you don't perform don't expect charity. There is no freebee as people seem to think. BAM is not charitable, it does not have deep pockets.

OT: Well, Hafiz is not a BAM player ;)

[drifit]

U discount Fu Haifeng with his fastest smash ever :eek:???

Or the chili-padi Markis Kido???

James needs to get himself updated regularly.........:p

[samuel882]

Back on time for the explosive match between current WC & on-form LEEYD !;)

[X Ball]

OT: Well, Hafiz is not a BAM player ;)


Hahaha sorry you are right. Even so, he is not treated well soon as he does not perform. He is almost on the 'dole' (pocket money only). With his loss in the AE, I think will be losing further ground.

[robin7]

The winners get watches...

[Jessica]

Hmm..I really feel Zhang Jie Wen is very pretty..

[hhs1000]

Hmm..I really feel Zhang Jie Wen is very pretty..

CTF also feels the same way:)

[badMania]

Hahaha sorry you are right. Even so, he is not treated well soon as he does not perform. He is almost on the 'dole' (pocket money only). With his loss in the AE, I think will be losing further ground.

He must be desperate to get on Andrew Kam's good book now :D

[Jessica]

Don't know who to support for MD..Since the Korea pair already win the All England last week,i will cheer for Kido/Setiawan..Come on Kido/Setiawan...

[X Ball]

He must be desperate to get on Andrew Kam's good book now :D


Andrew Kam is a charitable person -- probably for tax reasons.:D

[eaglehelang]

They may feel indispensable but they will know the money will not be coming in once they don't perform, like Hafiz.

HAfiz and KKK wanted the incentives and they worked hard and they got it. Sure the fame got to them but it has nothing to do with BAM pampering them - soon as you don't perform don't expect charity. There is no freebee as people seem to think. BAM is not charitable, it does not have deep pockets.

Yup, that actually came out in the press about BAM not paying the 2007 quarterly & presidential bonus yet.
Other than that, people tend to think national players are 100% funded by government cos it's core sports = taxpayer's $$$. When BAM released the figures, It's 50% from government, 50% from sponsors(Proton & Yonex).
That only came to light when the 4 MD muskeeters wanted to go independent & find own sponsors.

[Jessica]

The winners get watches...
Is that Rolex watches or what???:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[jamesd20]

Yes FU has a big smash, but the smahs does not dominate the game. when Kim/Ha or Halim/Tony played the smashes were the dominant point of the game.

When Cai/Fu play these days their smash does not dominate the game, which is why they are not so good in results these days.

Kido/Setiawan are a forgetable pair for me. I have watched them a few times, and forget how they play....sorry to me they showed nothing special to remember by.

[jasonmarc]

Don't know who to support for MD..Since the Korea pair already win the All England last week,i will cheer for Kido/Setiawan..Come on Kido/Setiawan...

Why....LYD not cute any more...?:rolleyes:....or hendra cuter.....

[jasonmarc]

Is that Rolex watches or what???:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Rolex.....a Swiss product.....wow...:eek:

[X Ball]

Yup, that actually came out in the press about BAM not paying the 2007 quarterly & presidential bonus yet.
Other than that, people tend to think national players are 100% funded by government cos it's core sports = taxpayer's $$$. When BAM released the figures, It's 50% from government, 50% from sponsors(Proton & Yonex).
That only came to light when the 4 MD muskeeters wanted to go independent & find own sponsors.

I think if KKK-TBH go independent they might get enough sponsors. I would not mind being their agent.:D

[badMania]

Kido/Setiawan are a forgetable pair for me. I have watched them a few times, and forget how they play....sorry to me they showed nothing special to remember by.

And which matches exactly did u watch them play on (apart from the forgettable AE campaign for them this year) :cool::eek:??

[robin7]

Coming up next...

Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae [6]
vs
Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan [2]

[Jessica]

Why....LYD not cute any more...?:rolleyes:....or hendra cuter.....
Hmm...Very difficult lar..Hendra is cool and LYD is cute..I like both..:D:D:p

[Jessica]

Coming up next...



Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae [6]
vs

Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan [2]

Robin..Which one you support???:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[eaglehelang]

Kido/Setiawan are a forgetable pair for me. I have watched them a few times, and forget how they play....sorry to me they showed nothing special to remember by.

Dont worry, this part Badmania sure to remind you, they're his fav pair.

Who's the BC commentator ? Jessica? Since robin has gone for tea break....

[bic33]

KIDO and SETIAWAN are sick! Kido is just too strong for his size, and SETIAWAN'S net plays are siiiick! :D

[X Ball]

And which matches exactly did u watch them play on (apart from the forgettable AE campaign for them this year) :cool::eek:??


And they are on now.

[jasonmarc]

About to start......Clashes between Cute and Cool......

[Jessica]

Dont worry, this part Badmania sure to remind you, they're his fav pair.

Who's the BC commentator ? Jessica? Since robin has gone for tea break....
Hmm..Sorry..Have to concentrate on the cool Setiawan and cute LYD..:D:p:p

[jamesd20]

The WC final........maybe I need to see them more, but I have forgotten how they play simple as that:mad:. I have not more comments on them now - since I just don't know about them.

btw I didn't mean forgettable as not good. I meant forgettable as in I forgot.

going on you tube to take a look now. back soon:D

[badMania]

Kido/Hendra's only second Final in European tourney....first one was back in 2004 when they were still a novice...losing to Paaske/Rasmussen in the Denmark Open Final.

[eaglehelang]

ah ha right on time. Thanks for all your "typing" work Robin.
Yesterday was Samuel, you all can go on tv to be baddy commentators

[badMania]

The WC final........maybe I need to see them more, but I have forgotten how they play simple as that:mad:. I have not more comments on them now - since I just don't know about them.

btw I didn't mean forgettable as not good. I meant forgettable as in I forgot.

going on you tube to take a look now. back soon:D

Watch the MAS Open 2008 Final against Paaske/Rasmussen...u will get a feel...

[Jessica]

And which matches exactly did u watch them play on (apart from the forgettable AE campaign for them this year) :cool::eek:??
Well,i don't think Kido/Setiawan is an ordinary pair..I always remember Kido powerful smashing and Hendra nice net placement...Actually they are a great pair..:rolleyes::rolleyes:One is so calm and one is so active..:p:p

[X Ball]

And which matches exactly did u watch them play on (apart from the forgettable AE campaign for them this year) :cool::eek:??


I must say I don't feel good vibes for them tonight.:D

[Jessica]

Come on..Indonesia..Go Go Go..

[robin7]

Robin..Which one you support???:rolleyes::rolleyes:
I like kimchi more than gado-gado!:p

[samuel882]

MK/HS on their usual RED suits, the koreans in black/red...love-all play
HS serve

[taufik-ist]

yes... i'm back again to support MK/HS :)

[samuel882]

Firsrt pt won by INA- LYD send the shuttles wide

[jasonmarc]

Repeat of WC 07 Final......revenge..?

[samuel882]

MK execute an "unusual" backhand smash during the rally.. 2-1

[eaglehelang]

Samuel pulak come back to be the 'official' commentator, he he

[samuel882]

KIDO need improve on his flat-drive, often send out of the baseline

[samuel882]

BAD return by MK 4-4

[jasonmarc]

MK execute an "unusual" backhand smash during the rally.. 2-1

The master ...TH teached them this one...;)

[samuel882]

not much rally at the start.. unforce errors by both side

[samuel882]

Koreans seems choose to attack more on MK

[taufik-ist]

gambate mk/hs....................!!!

[jasonmarc]

9 - 6 at the moment....to kor.........

[samuel882]

HS great smash.. 7-9

[samuel882]

Good defensive shot by HS ! 8-9

[samuel882]

9-9 , same spots. Korean cant retrieve it

[taufik-ist]

yes... 9 all... add more oils for mk/hs

[samuel882]

smash over smash by MK/HS .. 10-10

[badMania]

5 straight pts from trailing 6-9 to lead 11-9 into the break. Not a bad start.

[jasonmarc]

11 - 9 interval....to INA...

[samuel882]

The Korean seldom got chances to attack , and their defense not so impressive

[Jessica]

I really admirer Hendra Setiawan very much..How can he be so calm no matter winning points or losing points??? Seem like no expression on his face...

[taufik-ist]

yes mk/hs won 1st half of first set :)

[samuel882]

LEEYD is the one who making mistakes over mistakes now..

[robin7]

LYD is not so effective at the net.

[taufik-ist]

I really admirer Hendra Setiawan very much..How can he be so calm no matter winning points or losing points??? Seem like no expression on his face...

that's why i gave him a nickname "ICE MAN" :D

[samuel882]

WC is back on their power game now.

[pjswift]

Sounds like what I predicted... LCW crumbled under pressure. The problem is he doesn't have real confidence when facing LD, just like LD used to be lack of confidence when facing TH. :cool:
If LCW did crumble under pressure, the G2 score cannot be 21-18. Would be more like 21-13. Confidence is related to thoroughly relevant preparations. Quite clear LD was very well prepared and played superb while LCW was deactivated in G1.But he managed to shake off G1 and played decent in G2. LD was too good for him today.
LD used to fear TH because TH was quite intimidating skillwise and physically stronger than now. Also because TH played so little then, LD did not have much chance to practise against him.Along came LCW to challenge and 'train' LD ,in the process helping him to raise his level of play and with it ,greater confidence. That's why LD has to thank LCW for helping him get over his fear of TH.

[jasonmarc]

LEEYD is the one who making mistakes over mistakes now..

fatigue takes in............long ....long ...journy....;)

[samuel882]

LEEYD short server landed in.. not sure why the INA protest with the service judge's call..

[eaglehelang]

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5 straight pts from trailing 6-9 to lead 11-9 into the break. Not a bad start.

Your heros doing well, my friend. From scoreline, even better than when they were up against our Fuzzy.

[samuel882]

Couple of accurate judgement calls from the INA 17-13

[X Ball]

If LCW did crumble under pressure, the G2 score cannot be 21-18. Would be more like 21-13. Confidence is related to thoroughly relevant preparations. Quite clear LD was very well prepared and played superb while LCW was deactivated in G1.But he managed to shake off G1 and played decent in G2. LD was too good for him today.
LD used to fear TH because TH was quite intimidating skillwise and physically stronger than now. Also because TH played so little then, LD did not have much chance to practise against him.Along came LCW to challenge and 'train' LD ,in the process helping him to raise his level of play and with it ,greater confidence. That's why LD has to thank LCW for helping him get over his fear of TH.

Yes LCW did not crumble - just did not play well whereas LD is on the ball tonight.

[taufik-ist]

fatigue takes in............long ....long ...journy....;)

ya... he just got 16 hours to rest...

[TheJunkiez]

wow quick game 21-15 for INA pairs

[samuel882]

non stop power smashes from MK. Game pts...

[taufik-ist]

yes.... finish it.... mk/hs

[X Ball]

wow quick game 21-15 for INA pairs


Predicting the finish before it finished.:D

[jamesd20]

wow quick game 21-15 for INA pairs

??:confused:my live score says 17-20

[carine]

Markis/Hendra took 1st set 21-17

[Jessica]

Great smash by Kido to finish the first set..

[Krisna]

Great 1st game!!!! :D:D:D

[TheJunkiez]

21-17 not bad :p

[IndoAmerican]

non stop power smashes from MK. Game pts...

where are you watching live?

[jasonmarc]

ya... he just got 16 hours to rest...

i means...4 tournament in a row...is something....very heavy for a player...especially he enter all the finals......MD or XD

[samuel882]

KOREAN simply have no answer for the power smashes by MK on the first set.. But couple of their shots is quite great... An even match so far...

[badMania]

A good start for the World Champion, as they take the first set 21-17. The key turning pt was when they trailed 6-9 and managed to win 9 straight pts to make the scoreline 15-9. There was no turning back since then.

[Jessica]

that's why i gave him a nickname "ICE MAN" :D
Nice nickname..Ice Man..So cool..:D:p:p

[Jessica]

i means...4 tournament in a row...is something....very heavy for a player...especially he enter all the finals......MD or XD
Yup...But sorry for the cute LYD..I support Indonesia this time..:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[samuel882]

where are you watching live?
Satelite TV.......... ;)

[eaglehelang]

where are you watching live?

Samuel & a few others watching on Msia Cable tv, Astro. Sorry not available online. You can tell by their description who's watching on tv.
No online stream

[samuel882]

now INA on the court which against the drift...

[taufik-ist]

i have predicted mk/hs will win with straight sets :)

[robin7]

JJS needs to step up to cover LYD a bit.

[TH_4_President]

will kido/hendra become the one and only non-chinese winner in this tourney? I GUESS SO!!! GO KINDRA!!!

[samuel882]

Korean start to keep the shuttle lows...

[samuel882]

HS is really good in changing the pace..

[robin7]

i have predicted mk/hs will win with straight sets :)
I have prepared the excuses in case LYD loses.:D

[huangkwokhau]

China is bouncing back with 4 titles....better than last year with 3 titles...

[taufik-ist]

Korean start to keep the shuttle lows...


ha..ha they are affraid of the furious.. markis kido :D :D

[eaglehelang]

Korean start to keep the shuttle lows...

They should have got the idea from watching fuzzy, uncles, KKK/TBH

[huangkwokhau]

wow...Kido hendra won 1st set....YES!

[jasonmarc]

will kido/hendra become the one and only non-chinese winner in this tourney? I GUESS SO!!! GO KINDRA!!!

Is hendra a Indonesian chinese..?:confused:

[samuel882]

LEEYD is trying to challenge HS inthe front court.. level 6-all

[X Ball]

Indonesians in strife

[samuel882]

Great defense by JJS .. 8-6

[TH_4_President]

what the..neck to neck game now in the 2nd set..come on KINDRA!!

[eaglehelang]

I have prepared the excuses in case LYD loses.:D

lol :D, funny robin

[robin7]

ha..ha they are affraid of the furious.. markis kido :D :D
I suddenly agree with u that Markis looks like donkey.:D

[samuel882]

Good tactic by the Korean.. keep HS on the baseline and MK in front

[taufik-ist]

Is hendra a Indonesian chinese..?:confused:

yes..he's chinesse indonesian :D i think what TH_for president meant is the only non china player :rolleyes: :D

[samuel882]

Korean defense suddenly improve..

[Han]

Who cares about all these commenting about the MDF, Ah Fok & Ah Wah, Ah Tan & Ah Koo are not playing and Ah Wei already lost :D

[robin7]

Camon, LYD..........

[badMania]

A lapse of concentration by Kido/Hendra when they were leading 6-2, to allow the Korean pair won 6 straight pts to overtake them at 8-6 and now lead 11-8 at the interval :cool: No rubber please.....

[taufik-ist]

OMG.... now korean won the first half :(.... add more oils for KIDO.... keep smashing .. man

[robin7]

Great kill by LYD. KOR 12-8.

[Jessica]

yes..he's chinesse indonesian :D i think what TH_for president meant is the only non china player :rolleyes: :D
Really..So he know how to speak mandarin or not???:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[TH_4_President]

yes..he's chinesse indonesian :D i think what TH_for president meant is the only non china player :rolleyes: :D
right on bro! piye kabare rek? :D:D

[samuel882]

Again smashes by MK went wide at sideline...

[robin7]

Hendra suddenly lost his concentration. KOR 14-9.

[X Ball]

Rubber game is looking likely

[taufik-ist]

dun worry.... the furious KIDO will be back more furious :) :)

[samuel882]

Korean went on all out attacking.. 16-9

[robin7]

KOR in huge lead 16-9.

[TheJunkiez]

i think korean pairs will take 2nd set

[carine]

KOR leading 16-10

[robin7]

Smash long by MK. KOR 17-10 up.

[TheJunkiez]

and the 3rd set :D

[X Ball]

Koreans are reading the game better now.

[samuel882]

LYD looks for advise from KDM

[taufik-ist]

Really..So he know how to speak mandarin or not???:rolleyes::rolleyes:

i don't know... he may understand .. but i dont know how much ? :rolleyes: :D

[carine]

KOR leading 18-12...

[robin7]

HS looks ill. KOR 19-12.....

[jasonmarc]

Smash long by MK. KOR 17-10 up.

What happened to 'Donkey'....smash side line out...base line ..out...:eek:

[eaglehelang]

Who cares about all these commenting about the MDF, Ah Fok & Ah Wah, Ah Tan & Ah Koo are not playing and Ah Wei already lost :D

not forgeting the 2 Mohd, aka Fuzzy, and Ah Shen, Ah Hock, Ah Chai, Ah FUi, Ah How, Ah Kiong also.
;)

[jamesd20]

LYD looks for advise from KDM

KDM is courtside?? or you mean spiritually?

[samuel882]

14-19.. still gota chance to level it

[carine]

KOR leading 19-13

[taufik-ist]

MK/HS can't handle the drift ???

[jasonmarc]

HS looks ill. KOR 19-12.....

I tot...he is cool...with no expressions....:rolleyes:

[taufik-ist]

right on bro! piye kabare rek? :D:D

apik bro... fine bro... keep supporting TH anyway :D

[samuel882]

Korean good at finsihing the rally..

[carine]

game pt for KOR 20-15

[robin7]

What return by JJS. KOR 20-15.

[badMania]

On to the rubber-set now....Jung/Lee have taken the second set 21-16.

[samuel882]

KIDO need to improve on his serve & returning of serve in the decider

[Jessica]

Rubber game now..Come on Indonesia,fight..

[robin7]

Yes, kill at the net by JJS gives KOR the 2nd game 21-16.

[X Ball]

Koreans are looking the better of the two sides at the moment

[carine]

KOR took the 2nd set

[robin7]

Someone is missing here.... Hauge... wonder where he is now...

[samuel882]

The match outcome is more depends on how well JJS can cover for LEEYD, who is abit off-form today

[jasonmarc]

I think its down to the question...who can handle the drift...better....

Hauge still closing his eyes.....

[taufik-ist]

I think its down to the question...who can handle the drift...better....

Hauge still closing his eyes.....

hauge is also a human.. he needs some rest :D :cool:

[jamesd20]

KOR should have the advantage of the drift in the Second half right?

[samuel882]

KOREAN seems to be more energetic now

[jasonmarc]

hauge is also a human.. he need a rest :D :cool:


:D..he cant rest at this crucial moment.....;)

[TH_4_President]

uh oh this is not good..2-5..wake up KINDRA!!! wush wush wush..!!!

[taufik-ist]

what happens to iceman ?????

[samuel882]

KOR should have the advantage of the drift in the Second half right?
Yup... But lets see... still quite an even game...
BTW, KDM is their coach

[pjswift]

Lindan played faster today. Chong Wei was not himself.
It's all about preparations. When LCW lost to CJ (who BTW won in the most deserving manner), it indicated LCW's preparations were not comprehensive enough.CHN MS preparations looked perfect this round and the results reflected that.
And now, on to the next month .(round)

[samuel882]

what happens to iceman ?????
nothing wrong, kido is the one making more mistakes...

[taufik-ist]

:D..he cant rest at this crucial moment.....;)

dun worry.. i'm backing up him now :p

[samuel882]

lucky net shot by MK, leading the 1st time 7-6

[jamesd20]

Yup... But lets see... still quite an even game...
BTW, KDM is their coach

KDM now? it was HTK in AE. They definitely got some good mentors!

[taufik-ist]

ayooooo iceman and furious donkey... win..win..win

[samuel882]

great back hand smash by LEEYD. 9-8

[jasonmarc]

KDM now? it was HTK in AE. They definitely got some good mentors!

They also have LDS...in their XD and WD department....all their Olympic heroes...are helping now........

[samuel882]

great rally... Korean defense looks sluggish. MK smash once again earn a pt 10-10

[samuel882]

They also have LDS...in their XD and WD department....all their Olympic heroes...are helping now........
And KMS as their chief coach as well:cool:

[badMania]

Still a shaky display by Kido/Hendra as they trail 10-11 at the interval of the rubber-set. This is close.

[jamesd20]

They also have LDS...in their XD and WD department....all their Olympic heroes...are helping now........

I know LDS is WD/XD coach. I just never seen Kim courtside. Shame he wasn't there at AE. HTK got cheer like rexy at AE. He is very vocal on side line, even when serve just about to be made.

Is kim the same? I can't envisage him shouting from the back. He was always so calm on the court.

[taufik-ist]

what a match.... catching up one to another

[samuel882]

unbeliveable defense by the KOREAN, but ended by a silly mistake.. 11-12

[samuel882]

INA often not so comfortable when the pace of the game is slower..

[taufik-ist]

KOrean MD are trying to get back their supremacy like old days

[TheJunkiez]

oh no... 15-11 to korean

[yannie]

come on markis and hendra!!! mad!!!

[robin7]

KOR 18-12 up......

[samuel882]

Looks like heading for the Korean victory now..

[taufik-ist]

INA often not so comfortable when the pace of the game is slower..

mk/hs hate that :mad:

[jasonmarc]

what a match.... catching up one to another

So tense...i bet Hau-ge is closing his eyes with his hands now....or just walk away....to lessen the tense......just like other forumers would discribed him...:D

[carine]

KOR leading 18-12

[narnia]

INA now unplugged.....zzz

[samuel882]

Wow ! the Korean defense is really superb!

[TH_4_President]

camon KINDRA!!!! wake up!!!! wush3...!!!

[jasonmarc]

sudently...18 - 12 to Kor....wow...so fast...

[robin7]

Return wide by HS. KOR 19-12.

[carine]

19-12 now..........

[narnia]

KOR shows real strength going to the end...

[robin7]

Match pt for JJS/LYD 20-12.

One saved.

[hhs1000]

crap fighting spirit from MK/HS.

[carine]

match pt for KOR 20-12

[narnia]

Netplay dominance: 13:7

[samuel882]

The match ended by a fault serve by MK...

[taufik-ist]

come on markis and hendra!!! mad!!!

where have you been ?? that may be 2 late for them :o:(

[jasonmarc]

Kor won..back to back SS titles...just like KKK/TBH last year...Congrat..

[carine]

n KOR won it 21-13

[yannie]

mad mad mad!!! :(

[TH_4_President]

Aishh..KINDRA lost..what a pity

[robin7]

Yes, Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae won their 2nd SS titles in two weeks.

[Jessica]

Aiyo..Markis/Hendra lost already..Jung/Lee win back to back title..

[narnia]

Determined....

2007 super star: KKK/TBH
2008 ..............: JJJ/LYD

[kwun]

wow. what happened after the switch-ends? they were neck to neck up to that point but suddenly markis/hendra just fell asleep after they moved to the other side of the court.

[badMania]

Not a good day for Kido/Hendra as Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae take the back-to-back All-England and Swiss Opens titles. Congratulations to them!

Once they changed courts, the INA pair could only win 3 more pts, from the moment it was 11-12...the Korean raced away with the title.

[Jessica]

Kor won..back to back SS titles...just like KKK/TBH last year...Congrat..
:crying::crying:..The cute one defeated the cool one..:D:D

[taufik-ist]

congrats lyd/jjs.... mk/hs must learn how to play in a slower pace

[jasonmarc]

mad mad mad!!! :(


??? why mad ???:confused:

[yannie]

where have you been ?? that may be 2 late for them :o:(

haha i did follow the livescore, but only now sign in bc.. yeah too late.. :o:(:crying:

[narnia]

THe rubber game really shows the strength!!!

[samuel882]

I belive the standard of this two pairs is almost level. on any given day , INA will win or the other way around