Rexy: Fairuzzizan/Latif to replace KKK/TBH for Beijing 2008

[quek29]

KKK n TBH sucks big time...if not becos of them...malaysia can beat china 3-2.. haih...thomas cup dream gone, AGAIN!! piss off!!

[Dato A]

KKK n TBH sucks big time...if not becos of them...malaysia can beat china 3-2.. haih...thomas cup dream gone, AGAIN!! piss off!!

Yes. U r correct.

I watched the game at mamak stall. Crowded with Mas Supporters. When LCW won over LD, the crowd is definately delighted and sorak ''Malaysia Boleh''.

But when they noticed that KKK/TBH is going to play next, so many words came out from the crowd.

'' Rexy is crazy.''
'' CHN will win the point.''
'' What the hxll is going on?''
'' Bungkuslah ini kali."

And FHF/CY won it easily.

This year is the best opportunity for us to win the cup. With LCW,CTF/LWW and KKK/TBH. And bcos of KKK/TBH, we lost the opportunity to win the cup.

Imagine next two years - LCW no more (rumours retired after Olympic), CTF/LWW no more, Wong Choon Hann no more.

Thomas Cup? Wait for another 25 years. :crying::crying:

[quek29]

true!! this time is Rexy's fault!! rexy shud break this pair, no more chance for them!!!

[quek29]

the new malay pair can easily brush off KKK TBH 21-10 in straight set!!! at least they have 'balls' to be aggressive!!! offence is the best defence ma!!

[eaglehelang]

Fuzzy pair should be send to Olympic for further exposure to high standard games. They did it tremendously to overcome the must-win pressure today.

We give chances and chances to KKK/TBH, and also Hafiz. What happened then?

How long we should do that?

That's the thing abt Fuzzy pair, stimes Fuzzy, stimes clear. History shows they can play very well one day, not well the next day. It's just one match, we shall see in future tourney.
They wouldnt send Fuzzy to OG just for the sake of exposure.

KKK/TBH have not won titles this year, same with uncles.
Fuzzy never won titles yet, not as a pair or with previous partners. And Fuzzy are not rookies, they've around some time.
If Fuzzy win June's SS title convincingly, then perhaps.

KKK/TBH can be lethal if they get their act together, they need to get their act together. Fuzzy's not as lethal.

[Dato A]

the new malay pair can easily brush off KKK TBH 21-10 in straight set!!! at least they have 'balls' to be aggressive!!! offence is the best defence ma!!

Correct!

But be careful when u criticised KKK/TBH here. They got fanatics fans defending them here. But today, didnt saw his/her statement yet.:D:D

[chibe_K]

Sounds like KKK already sees himself bigger than he actually is. Maybe winning All England is all he wanted in his life. If that is the case, he should just retire and give athers a chance.

[Dato A]

Sounds like KKK already sees himself bigger than he actually is. Maybe winning All England is all he wanted in his life. If that is the case, he should just retire and give athers a chance.

Ever TBH also got his problem now.:D:D

Form Hero to Zero, they must be very sad now.

[koo_fan]

Come on la guys.
Maybe if u concentrate on his game yesterday,u could find another explanations.
He started slow(really slow).And caused both tbh and him lost the game.
Easily defeated by cy/fhf is one thing.I wont be disagree to this point.The thing is - i couldnt.

But,they are improving as the game goes on.But this is Semifinal.This is Thomas cup.Nothing can help them to win if they are not ready since the first service.

[koo_fan]

Come on la guys.
Maybe if u concentrate on his game yesterday,u could find another explanations.
He started slow(really slow).And caused both tbh and him lost the game.
Easily defeated by cy/fhf is one thing.I wont be disagree to this point.The thing is - i couldnt.

They are improving as the game goes on.But this is Semifinal.This is Thomas cup.Nothing can help them to win if they are not ready since the first service.
Just remember they are in treatment process.Give them 'placebo cure'.
I dont want to lose kkk/tbh.Neither none of u.

As for zakry/fairuz -U rock la.

[Dato A]

Come on la guys.
Maybe if u concentrate on his game yesterday,u could find another explanations.
He started slow(really slow).And caused both tbh and him lost the game.
Easily defeated by cy/fhf is one thing.I wont be disagree to this point.The thing is - i couldnt.

But,they are improving as the game goes on.But this is Semifinal.This is Thomas cup.Nothing can help them to win if they are not ready since the first service.

Finally u made some statement here:D:D

I agree they r in treatment process. Maybe give them 3-5 more years see whether they can come back or not. Now judging them finished oledi it's not wise.:D

[charmlene]

jsut give them another chance..support kkk/tbh endlessly!

[singhzico]

What is Chow Kit Open???:confused::confused::rolleyes:
It's regarded as the red district like patpong.:):):)

[singhzico]

Pemuda, if I ever get to Malaysia please let's go out for a beer or something, because everytime I read your posts, I have to pick myself off the floor from laughing so hard.

Teh-tarik is okay too, if beer's not your thing.

-dave
I will join u :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Dato A]

jsut give them another chance..support kkk/tbh endlessly!

TRULY MALAYSIA BOLEH SPIRIT!!!:D:D

[stephenliau]

http://stephen-badminton.blogspot.com/

[eaglehelang]

Finally u made some statement here:D:D

I agree they r in treatment process. Maybe give them 3-5 more years see whether they can come back or not. Now judging them finished oledi it's not wise.:D

Dato, you'll be interested to know the decision which pair to send will be by May 30, Yap KH said that's the deadline, not the July one.

5 years too long Dato. 2 years should be ok. So fast wanna say finished is wasting all the government funds to mold & build them :D. TBH is best smasher among Msia MD team. KKK best at front court. Rexy was the one pair them together, taught them to be winners, let Rexy scold, discipline, encourage or 'divorce' them as he deems necessary.

Fuzzy pair also given chance after chance, now finally manage to get breakthru, and they never win any title bf. When Fuzzy failed miserably, Rexy didnt give up on them & say "Useless". Rexy scold but help them improve.

[Pemuda]

jsut give them another chance..support kkk/tbh endlessly!

Yes! Give them a few more hundred chances like HH.

[Pemuda]

Whether they are either the best smasher or best in front or best disco dancer, if they no longer can perform, they should be shown the door. Why keep hoping against hope?

I say adopt the LYB's model. This is the only way for Malaysia to progress.

[Dato A]

Yes! Give them a few more hundred chances like HH.

Yes. one and two, two and three, three and one, one and two...(repeat x100 times). :D:D

[charmlene]

TRULY MALAYSIA BOLEH SPIRIT!!!:D:D


yep!kakakaka : )..

[winnie]

Yes! Give them a few more hundred chances like HH.
hey pemuda, dun be too harsh on the new member la.. u will scared them away la..:p:D

[victory]

I second the idea of sending Zakry/Tazari to Olympic if in coming 2-3 tournaments KKK/TBH failed badly again. Also, If Z/T perform better in this 2-3 tournaments. This is sport . Oplympic involve our nation's pride , we have to sent our best hope.

Right now it is clear that KKK/TBH have probems. If REXY can not solve their problems FAST then he should split them and mould another one or two strong pair. In that case, it is fair to KKK and TBH and their respective new partners and also our country. Don't forget we tax payers pay them salary.

[Felicia_txh]

KKK/TBH lost obviously show tat they are still not mature enough n still duno how to overcome n handle the pressure on them..from the way they played on de court during TC semifinal,they seems like very nervous n unconfident with themselves..:(
The fuzzy pairs played extremely well tat day,thumb up for them...:)

[X Ball]

i think rexy did that in order to pressure KKK/TBH to play better... playing in olympic is every players dream including KKK/TBH


I agree with you. KKK-TBH should not fear Rexy but only their opponents. Work hard and they will prevail.

BTW, did you go to the TC. I did not see you there to claim my nasi padangs that you owed me.:rolleyes:

[lipans]

It is good to punish KKK/TBH by not sending them to OLY2008. Send a harch reminder to any athletes/badminton player that whoever you are, what is your reputation, if you are not prepare well to take national responsibility, better not to sending you at all. Give a chance who are eager and prepared.

[Dato A]

The Fuzzy's is good but to compete in the highest level of competition they still need some times...

[Hitman71]

From what I see in the fuzzy pair is that both of these players are good at front and back. It seems that both can smash hard now, and both are good at the front. It seems balance. Before this it was zakry who is power player while fairuz with more control player. I remember fairuz like making drop shots when he was at the back hehehehehe.

[koo_fan]

jsut give them another chance..support kkk/tbh endlessly!
It wont be easy,sis.
U have to stand all the comments given.

i just want to put kkk/tbh in front of those fellows and let them said what they want.Confront.
I wonder what it'll be like.

[koo_fan]

hey pemuda, dun be too harsh on the new member la.. u will scared them away la..:p:D
Like he is not used too.

[winnie]

Like he is not used too.
hahaha:D:D by the way, where's pemuda? nw jz left dato?

[Dato A]

hahaha:D:D by the way, where's pemuda? nw jz left dato?

Pemuda now very busy on the local football tournament:D:D

[winnie]

Pemuda now very busy on the local football tournament:D:D
haha icic.. i thought he jz busy commenting on mas badminton:p:D;)

[charmlene]

It wont be easy,sis.
U have to stand all the comments given.

i just want to put kkk/tbh in front of those fellows and let them said what they want.Confront.
I wonder what it'll be like.

hope they'll buck up..i duno why i think they would..

[koo_fan]

hahaha:D:D by the way, where's pemuda? nw jz left dato?
Dont tell me u missed him.haha.

I think kkk's fans will survive in this thread without him.

[pjswift]

The KKK/TBH partnership is very vulnerable because their opponents only need to target one of them and they'll fall apart.Fuzzy demolished Guo/Xie when they realised the CHN MD2 was weak in defence and practically cannot withstand even a second successive smash. If Fuzzy can defeat an MD with strong defence in SPO and IO, then they deserve to go to OG08 in place of KKK/TBH.

[koo_fan]

The KKK/TBH partnership is very vulnerable because their opponents only need to target one of them and they'll fall apart.

I guess kkk/tbh was not able to show the game they have last year.
Im pretty sure none of us can give solid explanation.Not even Rexy.
I respect ur opinion.I should do.
But,i would not be agree they have to be threathend when olympic just around the corner

[Dato A]

I guess kkk/tbh was not able to show the game they have last year.
Im pretty sure none of us can give solid explanation.Not even Rexy.
I respect ur opinion.I should do.
But,i would not be agree they have to be threathend when olympic just around the corner

Defending KKK very good, like John Terry:D or maybe Rio Ferdinand.

[pjswift]

I guess kkk/tbh was not able to show the game they have last year.
Im pretty sure none of us can give solid explanation.Not even Rexy.
I respect ur opinion.I should do.
But,i would not be agree they have to be threathend when olympic just around the corner
Individually, KKK and TBH have excellent skills. Problem is their partnership is not working or cannot last 3 games properly.

[Dato A]

Individually, KKK and TBH have excellent skills. Problem is their partnership is not working or cannot last 3 games properly.

That's the point.

But still their fanz defending them die die.Hoping miracle.:D

[sweetlover]

still hope for kkk-tbh to bounce back...!!!
i have faith on them...!!!
dont js supported them when they won but more,more n more when they loss...!!!

[Han]

I think Rexy prefer to send KKK/TBH to Olympic but want to make sure these are on the top of their game if is chosen. KKK/TBH will be featured in coming Singapore Open and lets see how they do.

[singhzico]

:crying:
It's reported in NST & Berita Harian today. This also discussed in "KKK/TBH downhill..." thread
It's not confirmed yet, looks like Rexy giving pressure for KKK to buck up. That's Rexy's 'style', he has done that with the other players too, from time to time
:crying::crying::crying:

Any info on tc videos please?

[george@chongwei]

:crying:
:crying::crying::crying:

Any info on tc videos please?
u can search it in the tournament video sharing video forum there, dude

[desmond0806]

their partnership might be not so good...but in my opinion, their physical is not good(they can't control the game much) and they really need to improve on their smashes and nets

[Dato A]

their partnership might be not so good...but in my opinion, their physical is not good(they can't control the game much) and they really need to improve on their smashes and nets

Do u think that they r in the same level with JJS/LYD or CY/FHF?

[Pemuda]

still hope for kkk-tbh to bounce back...!!!
i have faith on them...!!!
dont js supported them when they won but more,more n more when they loss...!!!

Lets give KKK/TBH another 30 years. They are still young and learning. Lets support them.

Malaysia Boleh!

[jimbo]

Do u think that they r in the same level with JJS/LYD or CY/FHF?

YES... ONLY on their "superb" days :eek:;):cool:

[X Ball]

I don't think it is only KKK-TBH having problems. CAI-FU have problems. Markis-KIDO have problems. LYD-JJS also have problems sometimes.

Who doesn't have a problem ?

[desmond0806]

Do u think that they r in the same level with JJS/LYD or CY/FHF?

Honestly,I don't really think so...Sorry to say this although i am a malaysian...

[d65up2]

Indonesia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[george@chongwei]

I don't think it is only KKK-TBH having problems. CAI-FU have problems. Markis-KIDO have problems. LYD-JJS also have problems sometimes.

Who doesn't have a problem ?
yeah, becoz nobody is perfect..anything can happen in the world of badminton..even sumtimes lin dan will lose, not everytime a player can win..

[koo_fan]

Individually, KKK and TBH have excellent skills. Problem is their partnership is not working or cannot last 3 games properly.
There u go.
Do u think drop them from the squad in a week time will improve the partnership?

Please..Rexy.Please.One more chance.List their name.

[koo_fan]

I don't think it is only KKK-TBH having problems. CAI-FU have problems. Markis-KIDO have problems. LYD-JJS also have problems sometimes.

Who doesn't have a problem ?
Know what?A suggestion that zakry/fairuz should be replace kkk/tbh sound sensible.It really do.

This is so hard.But i do hope rexy will trust kkk/tbh.He knows them better than i am.I believed in kkk/tbh and i hope he will too.BAm is asking him and i hope he will give an answer that plaesed my heart.
Just one more chance.Please.

[pralinescream]

MAS shld just stop wasting public's money and retain all their shuttlers at home instead of being humiliated again in Beijing.

it always happens; last time it was wong chunhan, hafiz hash, roslin hash, den lee congwei den kkk/tbh and soon shall be zakry/fairuz.

after win couple of times, MAS treat them like god. already got prize money, top up summore.

soon afterwds, performance drop like sack of patatoes.

[Xenoy009]

Do u think that they r in the same level with JJS/LYD or CY/FHF?

Sadly but true..No, they simply can't match them at this point of time.:(

[koo_fan]

MAS shld just stop wasting public's money and retain all their shuttlers at home instead of being humiliated again in Beijing.

it always happens; last time it was wong chunhan, hafiz hash, roslin hash, den lee congwei den kkk/tbh and soon shall be zakry/fairuz.

after win couple of times, MAS treat them like god. already got prize money, top up summore.

soon afterwds, performance drop like sack of patatoes.
It is always easy to judge.

[eaglehelang]

Hmmm, "retain all shuttlers at home", then nobody go compete. Then, there'll be another group of taxpaying Msians who will complain "what for waste public money training them if they dont compete".

Hmmm, better yet, all go over KLRC, along with the respective coaches, after paying the necessary transfer fees, of course. The KLRC CEO will be very happy. Then it'll be wasting 'private money'.

[lipans]

I think, MAS uncle chould not go because they always have injury lately. Then, we have 2 young and dangerous pair in Olympic.

[Dato A]

yeah, becoz nobody is perfect..anything can happen in the world of badminton..even sumtimes lin dan will lose, not everytime a player can win..

But da continuous losing is weird.

LD lost but he bounce back. LCW lost but he bounce back too.

KKK N TBH? Havent yet.

Hafiz took 5 years since All england 2003 TO BOUNCE BACK.BAM give him 5 years and what is the result?

kkk/tbh = Hafiz? I dont know. But 1 thing, BAM learn nothing from Hafiz case.:mad:

[Dato A]

I think, MAS uncle chould not go because they always have injury lately. Then, we have 2 young and dangerous pair in Olympic.

CTF/LWW is a strong contender in the OG. Yours suggestion is totally unacceptable.:D:D

If it is like that, maybe can consider Hafiz to replace LCW.:D

[Dato A]

MAS shld just stop wasting public's money and retain all their shuttlers at home instead of being humiliated again in Beijing.

it always happens; last time it was wong chunhan, hafiz hash, roslin hash, den lee congwei den kkk/tbh and soon shall be zakry/fairuz.

after win couple of times, MAS treat them like god. already got prize money, top up summore.

soon afterwds, performance drop like sack of patatoes.

Some of the even honoured title from the royal family. If i am not mistaken, its AMN.

AMN? Akan Menang Nanti....:D

[xsakurax]

Badminton: Will it be Tan Fook-Wan Wah or Fairuzizuan-Zakry?
from nst~

IT is still not decided if veteran pair Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah or Zakry Latif-Fairuzizuan Tazari will join Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong on the flight to Beijing for the Olympics.
National doubles coach Rexy Mainaky confirmed yesterday that World No 5 Kien Keat-Boon Heong have impressed him enough to play in the Olympics.

"Kien Keat-Boon Heong are not back at their best but they are making progress. They are now focused and mentally prepared for the Olympics but their hearts are still not on winning the gold medal," said Rexy at the National Sports Council (NSC) in Bukit Jalil yesterday.

"However, a little fine-tuning could do the job for them. I will be able to do it when they compete innext month's Singapore Open and Indonesia Open.

"Believe me, if they are back to their best, they will win the Olympic gold medal."
Although the three Malaysian pairs have qualified for the Beijing Games on merit, Olympic regulations state only two can compete in the event.

However, Rexy was less impressed with Tan Fook and Wan Wah.

"I'm still in doubt whether they are mentally prepared for the Olympics. I'm sceptical after what had happened to them in the recent Thomas Cup." he said.

Rexy is especially unhappy with Tan Fook for falling sick at the eleventh hour before the semi-final clash against China.

"If I was Tan Fook, I would have still played. I don't know now whether they put themselves first before the country. If that is so, then there's a big problem.

" He also wrote off Tan Fook-Wan Wah's chances of winning Olympic gold. On Zakry-Fairuzizuan, the coach said the pair have the desire and heart for glory.

"The fire within them will be a plus in the Olympics, however, the BA of Malaysia (BAM) coaching committee may opt for the two senior pairs.

"I have two pairs in my mind now but the final decision will be made by the coaching committee."

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/Sport/2247662/Article/index_html

ermm it seems that kkk-tbh will be going to olympic.....

[SibugiChai]

Badminton: Will it be Tan Fook-Wan Wah or Fairuzizuan-Zakry?
By : Ajitpal Singh

IT is still not decided if veteran pair Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah or Zakry Latif-Fairuzizuan Tazari will join Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong on the flight to Beijing for the Olympics.

National doubles coach Rexy Mainaky confirmed yesterday that World No 5 Kien Keat-Boon Heong have impressed him enough to play in the Olympics.

"Kien Keat-Boon Heong are not back at their best but they are making progress. They are now focused and mentally prepared for the Olympics but their hearts are still not on winning the gold medal," said Rexy at the National Sports Council (NSC) in Bukit Jalil yesterday.

"However, a little fine-tuning could do the job for them. I will be able to do it when they compete innext month's Singapore Open and Indonesia Open.

"Believe me, if they are back to their best, they will win the Olympic gold medal."

Although the three Malaysian pairs have qualified for the Beijing Games on merit, Olympic regulations state only two can compete in the event.

However, Rexy was less impressed with Tan Fook and Wan Wah.

"I'm still in doubt whether they are mentally prepared for the Olympics. I'm sceptical after what had happened to them in the recent Thomas Cup." he said.

Rexy is especially unhappy with Tan Fook for falling sick at the eleventh hour before the semi-final clash against China.

"If I was Tan Fook, I would have still played. I don't know now whether they put themselves first before the country. If that is so, then there's a big problem.

" He also wrote off Tan Fook-Wan Wah's chances of winning Olympic gold. On Zakry-Fairuzizuan, the coach said the pair have the desire and heart for glory.

"The fire within them will be a plus in the Olympics, however, the BA of Malaysia (BAM) coaching committee may opt for the two senior pairs.

"I have two pairs in my mind now but the final decision will be made by the coaching committee."

[SibugiChai]

hahaha....


seems like UNCLEs got scared before the final!


I would like to send fuzzy to Olympic08 but UNCLEs got many connection in BAM thus their chances are higher!

[jimbo]

For the sake of our badminton future, i'll opt for Fuzzy over "uncles". well, the "uncles" go to OG08 just to make up the numbers and enjoy their "days" before retired :rolleyes: I really think Fuzzy had impressed Rexy after winning convincingly over the CHN MD2.

We should place our bets on "boys", not "uncles" :cool:

[sweetlover]

For the sake of our badminton future, i'll opt for Fuzzy over "uncles". well, the "uncles" go to OG08 just to make up the numbers and enjoy their "days" before retired :rolleyes: I really think Fuzzy had impressed Rexy after winning convincingly over the CHN MD2.

We should place our bets on "boys", not "uncles" :cool:
poor uncles since this are their last olympic..
but just like u said FZ ady impressed rexy...

but uncles had many experinced compared to FZ...:confused:

[jimbo]

poor uncles since this are their last olympic..
but just like u said FZ ady impressed rexy...

but uncles had many experinced compared to FZ...:confused:

Read carefully wat Rexy said... "the fire within the players to win GOLD"... tats very crucial... yes, experience is impt but without the hunger for success, it's not gonna bring the "uncles" to anywhere..."uncles" go OG08 for honeymoon only :cool:

i really hope BAM will opt for Fuzzy... we need "boys" to match the speed n power of CHN, INA and KOR MDs :rolleyes:

[SibugiChai]

I dont think the UNCLEs cant win anything at the OLYMPIC because from past records they always Lose footings in crucial moments. OLYMPIC is the biggest in BADMINTON now...

So... better bet on young guns!

[Dato A]

I dont think the UNCLEs cant win anything at the OLYMPIC because from past records they always Lose footings in crucial moments. OLYMPIC is the biggest in BADMINTON now...

So... better bet on young guns!

So simply tell CTF/LWW dont go to play OG, like that only?

[Hitman71]

Badminton: Will it be Tan Fook-Wan Wah or Fairuzizuan-Zakry?
By : Ajitpal Singh

"If I was Tan Fook, I would have still played. I don't know now whether they put themselves first before the country. If that is so, then there's a big problem.



What ??? Rexy should have said it then, not now .... well maybe he's trying to influence poeple in power to choose Fuzzy over CTF/LWW. IMHO, all the three pairs have the same chance to win the gold medal, that is errr none. So chosing the younger pair would be more beneficial for the future.

[eaglehelang]

Read carefully wat Rexy said... "the fire within the players to win GOLD"... tats very crucial... yes, experience is impt but without the hunger for success, it's not gonna bring the "uncles" to anywhere..."uncles" go OG08 for honeymoon only :cool:

i really hope BAM will opt for Fuzzy... we need "boys" to match the speed n power of CHN, INA and KOR MDs :rolleyes:

Jimbo, Fuzzy pair so far also often fumble at crucial point - it has been their problem, esp Fairuz, since his junior days. Uncles, if LWW is around, he will push both of them thru. Same as Zakry will pull both thru.

KKK/TBH - well.... if they can get their act together, learn to work together again, TBH dont panic, then only ok. Each pair got their own syndrome, dilemma for Rexy & YAp KH

[wood_22_chuck]

The environment for players and coaches in MAS is too tainted with non-badminton interests who have more influence in the decision-making process.

Badminton interests is not the priority for BAM. Money is, and unfortunately, short-sightedness that comes with it.

It's astounding with Rexy on board, that his charges have not begun to show anything resembling a track record.

-dave

[markchan]

I think the uncles have qualified fair n square as the highest ranked MAS MD so they shud go for th OG. Let them have 1 last hurrah.
If one of them is injured, then it is a different story.

[koo_fan]

So,who is guaranteed to be beijing?No one?

[Felicia_txh]

28 May..they will decide who's going to compete in OG...:)
I bet Rexy will gives KKK/TBH one more chance..:rolleyes:

[Dato A]

I think the uncles have qualified fair n square as the highest ranked MAS MD so they shud go for th OG. Let them have 1 last hurrah.
If one of them is injured, then it is a different story.

Yes. People maybe forgot to check the ranking:D:D

Double standard applied here of some ppl - They RECOMMEND Fuzzy's to replace The uncles to play OG simply bcause FUZZY's are in good form recently. ON THE OTHER HAND, they RECOMMEND AND DEFENDING the under-performed controversial pair, KKK/TBH to be send to play OG.

Why not Fuzzy The Recent Good Form REPLACE The Once Upon A time Unbeatable KKK/TBH?:confused::confused::confused:

[eaglehelang]

Yes. People maybe forgot to check the ranking:D:D

Double standard applied here of some ppl - They RECOMMEND Fuzzy's to replace The uncles to play OG simply bcause FUZZY's are in good form recently. ON THE OTHER HAND, they RECOMMEND AND DEFENDING the under-performed controversial pair, KKK/TBH to be send to play OG.

Why not Fuzzy The Recent Good Form REPLACE The Once Upon A time Unbeatable KKK/TBH?:confused::confused::confused:



They're following Rexy's tune;). A lot were critising KKK too when Rexy lashed out in March. Rexy said in public uncles cant win gold but said KKK/TBH can win gold if they're are at their best.

Ask Rexy, he already said the reason in public before.
Oh yeah, I dont recommend Fuzzy to replace either uncles or KKK/TBH. Rexy's just mad with uncle Ah Fook.

Fuzzy at their very best (at this moment) is still not as lethal. Maybe cos Fuzzy have failed before (AE 2006, AG 2006, AE 2007, WC 2007), more times than KKK/TBH, since they've been around longer as players. And Fuzzy were ok in performance bf those major events

Like you said give chance so many times, actually Fuzzy pair have got many chances with their previous partners, for one of them, he's always the weaker link. I think you know which one.

And contrary to what a few of them believe, there's actually a preferance for Fuzzy pair among certain quarters, not the uncles.

[SibugiChai]

Yes. People maybe forgot to check the ranking:D:D

Double standard applied here of some ppl - They RECOMMEND Fuzzy's to replace The uncles to play OG simply bcause FUZZY's are in good form recently. ON THE OTHER HAND, they RECOMMEND AND DEFENDING the under-performed controversial pair, KKK/TBH to be send to play OG.

Why not Fuzzy The Recent Good Form REPLACE The Once Upon A time Unbeatable KKK/TBH?:confused::confused::confused:


Uncles is too old for the next olympic! So better dont send them to this olympic waste of money! Just like sending a 5:crying:0years car to repairs!

[george@chongwei]

So,who is guaranteed to be beijing?No one?
KKK/TBH had already been guaranteed to the OG08

[volcom]

Uncles is too old for the next olympic! So better dont send them to this olympic waste of money! Just like sending a 5:crying:0years car to repairs!

They might just win, and make you eat your words :p.... You never know, miracles can happen!

[SibugiChai]

They might just win, and make you eat your words :p.... You never know, miracles can happen!

There are lot of those players also might win it! So whose miracles are we waiting for?

The uncle got one last chance to wait for miracles... :confused:

[Wong8Egg]

Uncles is too old for the next olympic! So better dont send them to this olympic waste of money! Just like sending a 5:crying:0years car to repairs!

I favor the Uncles over the Fuzzy, I can't recall too many times that Fuzzy has entered any major finals compare to the Uncles. The Uncles just need to fix their little spirit/attitude problem at the match point and they are good.

For KKK/TBH, they fail harder each time when their countryman have high hope on them. So I guess the best bet would be the Fuzzy Uncles!

[SibugiChai]

So give the UNCLEs the last horray for serving the country for 10 years ++

???

[Dato A]

I favor the Uncles over the Fuzzy, I can't recall too many times that Fuzzy has entered any major finals compare to the Uncles. The Uncles just need to fix their little spirit/attitude problem at the match point and they are good.

For KKK/TBH, they fail harder each time when their countryman have high hope on them. So I guess the best bet would be the Fuzzy Uncles!

Yes. I agreed.

Rexy had made a big mistake by sending KKK/TBH to OG.He will regret by his own decision.

[Dato A]

The thread should be changed to The Fuzzy's replace The Uncles...

[SibugiChai]

Uncles has fail numerous time in crucial moment and till 30+ they also never learned.

I would rather send two malaysia linesmen to OG08 than sending these two uncles. Waste of public money!

[Dato A]

Uncles has fail numerous time in crucial moment and till 30+ they also never learned.

I would rather send two malaysia linesmen to OG08 than sending these two uncles. Waste of public money!

They r the highest ranked pair amongst mas pairs.

[Felicia_txh]

They r the highest ranked pair amongst mas pairs.
highest rank doesn't gurantee they sure win in OG...I don tink replace KKK/TBH with uncles is a right choice..age factor..
KKK/TBH,both of them hav enough experience,stamina,technique,potential n qualified to compete in OG but they juz lack of confidence n duno how to handle their pressure n stress..

[charmlene]

yep..agree with felicia..if i were one of the players , surely the way of handling stress might be one of my major problems..but uncles are great too..dont know about their problems, though..

[koo_fan]

KKK/TBH had already been guaranteed to the OG08
Thats the best news EVER!!!Thanks.I could feel my tears now.oohh..this is so nice.

I can watch kkk played in beijing.Go for it my love.

[koo_fan]

I favor the Uncles over the Fuzzy, I can't recall too many times that Fuzzy has entered any major finals compare to the Uncles. The Uncles just need to fix their little spirit/attitude problem at the match point and they are good.

For KKK/TBH, they fail harder each time when their countryman have high hope on them. So I guess the best bet would be the Fuzzy Uncles!
kkk/tbh will prove u wrong this time.
Just wait and see.
Im boastful.am i?who cares?

[charmlene]

im with u, koo_fan

[limsy]

i think ctf n lww are almost cant go to OG...unless they win singapore title and more than that...rexy unhappy with them...

[george@chongwei]

the deadline for submitting the entries for each categories will be on 31 of MAY..
im sure BAM is headache now:p
hope they will make a wise and right choice.:)

[Wong8Egg]

i think ctf n lww are almost cant go to OG...unless they win singapore title and more than that...rexy unhappy with them...

Rexy is an unhappy man regardlessly. :p

[charmlene]

i think bam would prefer to send uncles than fuzzy though

[winnie]

i think the candidates that rexy has in mind r koo-tan n fai-zak
i pity the uncles la.. they strive so hard last year to maintain the ranking but in the end they are not being sent to beijing.. this is abit unfair la.. cannot jz bcos of the minor probs such as age factor and TC incidents then we deny their right.. then what would the players think? they will feel like all their efforts not appreciated, n no point to do well all the time n jz show gd performance b4 the olympic then is ok d?! pity pity

[olympic]

To be fair,CTF-LWW should be the right candidate to be sent to Beijing.They maintained the consistency thoughout the year(last year) and the highest ranking,if compared to 2 other pairs.Fairuz-Zakry still not up-to-mark yet though they did well in TC'08.It is still a question mark whether they can maintain their consistency.It is unfair to make the judgement based on only 1 tournament itself.

[limsy]

To be fair,CTF-LWW should be the right candidate to be sent to Beijing.They maintained the consistency thoughout the year(last year) and the highest ranking,if compared to 2 other pairs.Fairuz-Zakry still not up-to-mark yet though they did well in TC'08.It is still a question mark whether they can maintain their consistency.It is unfair to make the judgement based on only 1 tournament itself.

nope...rexy is profesional...he is not a malaysia die hard fan...play good...praise like god...play bad...blame like xxxx...he knew how good his player are...right???...so...any decision he make are use to be correct...anyone agree he send kkk-tbh to asian games 2006???...any???....i think no...so...why cant he send anyone that he think can win to OG???...

[Noridayu]

nope...rexy is profesional...he is not a malaysia die hard fan...play good...praise like god...play bad...blame like xxxx...he knew how good his player are...right???...so...any decision he make are use to be correct...anyone agree he send kkk-tbh to asian games 2006???...any???....i think no...so...why cant he send anyone that he think can win to OG???...

I hope that who are selected to play for the country wil have to play with their hearts of winning medals for Malaysia. I agreed with you that we need to trust in our coaches and always support them. We need to work hand in hand.Whatever the decision that been made, we need to believe in the players as it will be the key motivator for them.

[SibugiChai]

UNCLEs chances of winning OG08 is better than Fuzzy but UNCLEs will be too OLD for Next Olympic so if send FUZZY there. THey can gain experience thus next Olympic will be better equiped.

But I think BAM will choose UNCLEs instead of FUZZY because UNCLEs is old horse sure got lotta connection in BAM.

[limsy]

UNCLEs chances of winning OG08 is better than Fuzzy but UNCLEs will be too OLD for Next Olympic so if send FUZZY there. THey can gain experience thus next Olympic will be better equiped.

But I think BAM will choose UNCLEs instead of FUZZY because UNCLEs is old horse sure got lotta connection in BAM.

hmm...nope...got connection...no result also no use...

[limsy]

I hope that who are selected to play for the country wil have to play with their hearts of winning medals for Malaysia. I agreed with you that we need to trust in our coaches and always support them. We need to work hand in hand.Whatever the decision that been made, we need to believe in the players as it will be the key motivator for them.

hmm...thanks...i saw someone saying patnering kkk-ctk in thomas quater is unwise(before match begin)...forget who...some use to be not trusting coach decision...:(

[SibugiChai]

hmm...nope...got connection...no result also no use...

BAM is very political! That's why I am quit sure UNCLEs will be send unless FuZZY knows some important Datuk!:D

[george@chongwei]

BAM is very political! That's why I am quit sure UNCLEs will be send unless FuZZY knows some important Datuk!:D
no politics pls in bc forum:):p

[limsy]

BAM is very political! That's why I am quit sure UNCLEs will be send unless FuZZY knows some important Datuk!:D

hmm...that ok...if political...just send those IMPORTANT GUYS children for OG lar...and this never happen...right???...just like u have connection with some entertainment boss...and u win the competition...u become singer...no one will buy your cd or dvd mv or ep....right???...no ability...got connection also cant do things...

[olympic]

To be fair,CTF-LWW should be the right candidate to be sent to Beijing.They maintained the consistency thoughout the year(last year) and the highest ranking,if compared to 2 other pairs.Fairuz-Zakry still not up-to-mark yet though they did well in TC'08.It is still a question mark whether they can maintain their consistency.It is unfair to make the judgement based on only 1 tournament itself.

[limsy]

To be fair,CTF-LWW should be the right candidate to be sent to Beijing.They maintained the consistency thoughout the year(last year) and the highest ranking,if compared to 2 other pairs.Fairuz-Zakry still not up-to-mark yet though they did well in TC'08.It is still a question mark whether they can maintain their consistency.It is unfair to make the judgement based on only 1 tournament itself.

u make a same post again???...saw my reply...^^...

[olympic]

Hmmm...Rexy really needs Panadol(s) now,to relieve headache.

[eaglehelang]

UNCLEs chances of winning OG08 is better than Fuzzy but UNCLEs will be too OLD for Next Olympic so if send FUZZY there. THey can gain experience thus next Olympic will be better equiped.

But I think BAM will choose UNCLEs instead of FUZZY because UNCLEs is old horse sure got lotta connection in BAM.

Connection will not be the reason they send Uncles. Uncles were the only consistent pair this year, minus the TC performance. At TC Rexy pissed off also mostly cos of uncle CTF.

There's actually a preferance for Fuzzy pair in the media, you know for what reason.

BAM in dilemma one of the reason according to Berita Harian is cos : IF they choose Fuzzy, Msia wouldnt be seeded country in top 8. Then maybe meet each other in early round. Uncles, KKK/TBH are no 4 & 5 in WR, wouldnt be playing each other till later. Fuzzy was no 11, now no 15, maybe will be Msia vs Msia early if they go.
So... it's like Fuzzy have surge in their performance a wee bit late.

[olympic]

u make a same post again???...saw my reply...^^...

Opps sorry,double post.

[SibugiChai]

sorry wrong reply!

[SibugiChai]

hmm...that ok...if political...just send those IMPORTANT GUYS children for OG lar...and this never happen...right???...just like u have connection with some entertainment boss...and u win the competition...u become singer...no one will buy your cd or dvd mv or ep....right???...no ability...got connection also cant do things...

Not sure if you are working or studying

If you are working sure understand what is politics!

Like in works, those who got promoted doesnt always the best workers but those who can work and got connection with the upper level.

The boss wont just promoted anyone but those who are close to them but still can work abit.

EXP:

UNCLES:
Winning chances: 2%
Connection Strength: 50%

Fuzzy
Winning Chances: 5%
Connection Strength: 10%

So UNCLES got send because they got 52points... hahaha :cool:

[charmlene]

lol..at nite he must be thinking which pair to be sent to OG08 only..coz there are some ppl always blame when there's no victory from the pairs chosen by rexy..be faithful and trust them~..

[charmlene]

wa sibugichai...uncles' winning chances got that low anot?..not even half of fuzzy's chances ar?...

[olympic]

Connection will not be the reason they send Uncles. Uncles were the only consistent pair this year, minus the TC performance. At TC Rexy pissed off also mostly cos of uncle CTF.

There's actually a preferance for Fuzzy pair in the media, you know for what reason.

BAM in dilemma one of the reason according to Berita Harian is cos : IF they choose Fuzzy, Msia wouldnt be seeded country in top 8. Then maybe meet each other in early round. Uncles, KKK/TBH are no 4 & 5 in WR, wouldnt be playing each other till later. Fuzzy was no 11, now no 15, maybe will be Msia vs Msia early if they go.
So... it's like Fuzzy have surge in their performance a wee bit late.

I think if not because of the injury,the chances to Beijing for our uncles are very much higher,quite straight forward. China Press reported: these 3 pairs will be required to go through a medical check-up before the decision made.Of course,there are other aspects the coaches will look into depth.

[SibugiChai]

wa sibugichai...uncles' winning chances got that low anot?..not even half of fuzzy's chances ar?...

Example la....

The reason I support FUZZY is because they can play in next olympic but UNCLES cannot, somemore UNCLES always "kan Chiong" in finals:crying:

[eaglehelang]

I think if not because of the injury,the chances to Beijing for our uncles are very much higher,quite straight forward. China Press reported: these 3 pairs will be required to go through a medical check-up before the decision made.Of course,there are other aspects the coaches will look into depth.

Yes, same news in all the other press. It's due to LWW injury & uncle CTF chicken out when he got flu/fever. Of the 2, Rexy more often unhappy with CTF. Uncle LWW is usually the one that pull the pair thru.

NST
25 May 2008
Proven pairs to get nod

By Ajitpal Singh

2008/05/25
KOO Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong and Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah will likely be selected over Zakry Latif-Fairuzizuan Tazari for the Beijing Olympic Games in August. The only factor that could stop them from competing is injury as all three pairs will be subject to medical and physical tests on Tuesday.

The BA of Malaysia (BAM) has deliberated on which two pairs should go to Beijing, taking into account their ranking and performance over the past two months, which clearly indicated Kien Keat-Boon Heong and Tan Fook-Wan Wah.

However, BAM will only make its final decision after the tests to ensure those selected are free from injuries.

BAM president Datuk Nadzmi Salleh confirmed the coaches have recommended the shuttlers for the Beijing Games and the coaching committee will only decide after the physical test results.

"If all three pairs pass their medical and physical tests, then we will select the best two pairs based on ranking and performance over the past two months. We cannot pick a particular pair just because they did well in one or two tournaments," said Nadzmi, after chairing the BAM council and annual general meeting (AGM) in Kuala Lumpur yesterday.

The question now is whether Wan Wah will pass the tests as he is down with a shoulder injury, which forced him out from several matches in the recent Thomas Cup in Jakarta.

Upon returning to Kuala Lumpur on Monday, Wan Wah was given a one-week break to recover.

He will report for training tomorrow.

Nadzmi also indicated that the BAM may consider limiting the Beijing-bound shuttlers' participation in overseas tournaments before the Olympics.

"We need to get the feedbacks from their coaches as we feel the shuttlers should not be pushed too hard now."

The major tournaments before the Olympics are the Singapore Open (June 10-15), Indonesia Open (June 17-22) and the Thailand Open (June 24-29).

On BAM's target for the Olympics, he said the association will be hoping for a gold medal but will be happy if the shuttlers can bring home medals of any colour.

" Based on current form, Lee Chong Wei has a good chance," he said.

Meanwhile, the Kuala Lumpur Badminton Association (KLBA) was the only state affiliate that failed to turn up for the AGM yesterday.

"They have given their reasoning and we have accepted it," Nadzmi said.

On whether KLBA president Datuk Punch Gunalan was still the vice-president of BAM, Nadzmi said Punch still holds that position.

"The Badminton World Federation motion to oust him as deputy president recently does not affect his position in BAM."
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Sunday/Sport/2249461/Article/pppull_index_html

[olympic]

lol..at nite he must be thinking which pair to be sent to OG08 only..coz there are some ppl always blame when there's no victory from the pairs chosen by rexy..be faithful and trust them~..

Aiii...not surprising...very typical "syndrome" of certain parties.Remember Doha Asian Games?Not forget the most recent TC'08.If the pair win,so many compliments:"Rexy,you have done an excellent job"! they fail to deliver:"Stupid Rexy! Not an easy task to be a coach in M'sia,especially in badminton.I wonder if Rexy gonna join their players to seek help from the psikologist?You know,the Olympic heat is even hotter than the Olympic torch!

[charmlene]

haha..some ppl do not understand the enormous stress and tension faced by rexy and the players..like kkk/tbh, after winning number of times in 06 and 07..byk org puji..now jatuh d..all pijak..we wont know what will happen in the future..just keep our fingers crossed and wish them all the best :)

[SibugiChai]

haha..some ppl do not understand the enormous stress and tension faced by rexy and the players..like kkk/tbh, after winning number of times in 06 and 07..byk org puji..now jatuh d..all pijak..we wont know what will happen in the future..just keep our fingers crossed and wish them all the best :)

Hard to be in the public eyes...

Cant do this and that!

Extreme Pressure. :eek:

Gonna give them some spaces but we also wish victory!

[olympic]

haha..some ppl do not understand the enormous stress and tension faced by rexy and the players..like kkk/tbh, after winning number of times in 06 and 07..byk org puji..now jatuh d..all pijak..we wont know what will happen in the future..just keep our fingers crossed and wish them all the best :)

Lets pray hard that Rexy will turn the"Mission Impossible" into possible one.Not forget to wish him always in good health,no high blood pressure,no headache,no heart attack,etc.(Rexy,i'm sincere and no offensive...You know,in this critical moment being the badminton coach of M'sia,the chances of suffering those diseases are very high)!

[olympic]

haha..some ppl do not understand the enormous stress and tension faced by rexy and the players..like kkk/tbh, after winning number of times in 06 and 07..byk org puji..now jatuh d..all pijak..we wont know what will happen in the future..just keep our fingers crossed and wish them all the best :)

Lets pray hard that Rexy will turn the"Mission Impossible" into possible one.Not forget to wish him always in good health,no high blood pressure,no headache,no heart attack,etc.(Rexy,i'm sincere and no offensive...You know,in this critical moment being the badminton coach of M'sia,the chances of suffering those diseases are very high)!

[pjswift]

Connection will not be the reason they send Uncles. Uncles were the only consistent pair this year, minus the TC performance. At TC Rexy pissed off also mostly cos of uncle CTF.

There's actually a preferance for Fuzzy pair in the media, you know for what reason.

BAM in dilemma one of the reason according to Berita Harian is cos : IF they choose Fuzzy, Msia wouldnt be seeded country in top 8. Then maybe meet each other in early round. Uncles, KKK/TBH are no 4 & 5 in WR, wouldnt be playing each other till later. Fuzzy was no 11, now no 15, maybe will be Msia vs Msia early if they go.
So... it's like Fuzzy have surge in their performance a wee bit late.
1.IN OG08,the draw will have nationality separation,so the MAS MDs will be in different halves.(Maybe someone can double confirm)
2. Actually what did CTF do?
This is news to me.It seems Rexy believed CTF should be in a position to play even with fever and should have no excuse.(I remember the former Thai tennis ace , Paradorn S. once said it's not possible to continue play with a physical injury but ok with flu.And tennis matches are usually 1.5 hours long compared to badminton average of half an hour.) I get the impression that CTF is unwilling to play against CHN for reasons which can be guessed.Coupled with the fact LWW 's injury can flare up anytime, the uncles are a poor bet for OG08, regardless of their greater experience and better ranking.
3. The only reason to send veterans for another chance in OG08 is when they still have the passion and motivation to win a medal and when their replacements are poor substitutes.The MAS uncles are not no 1 in passion and motivation and Fuzzy are motivated and passionate enough to be worthy substitutes.(The worst reason to choose veterans over debutants is as a retirement gift.Which may happen to DEN's JE/ML at the expense of Boe/Morgensen who have finally achieved breakthrough wins over them this year.)
4. I really sympathise with Rexy.As a coach, so passionate, so driven, so dedicated. And his charges are gifted.Yet he really has a lot to do to come up with some magic.Rexy deserves better. May he, by some miracle, have his dream come true.

[eaglehelang]

1.IN OG08,the draw will have nationality separation,so the MAS MDs will be in different halves.(Maybe someone can double confirm)
2. Actually what did CTF do?.........
This is news to me.It seems Rexy believed CTF should be in a position to play even with fever and should have no excuse...............Coupled with the fact LWW 's injury can flare up anytime, the uncles are a poor bet for OG08, regardless of their greater experience and better ranking.
3. The only reason to send veterans for another chance in OG08 is when they still have the passion and motivation to win a medal and when their replacements are poor substitutes.The MAS uncles are not no 1 in passion and motivation and Fuzzy are motivated and passionate enough to be worthy substitutes

1) As I recall, someone posted that same country wouldnt meet in 1st & 2nd round but QF onwards, there's danger, something like WC.

2) It came out in NST, go to Prof Players sub forum, see if someone posted it.
And yes, Rexy angry with CTF, Rexy felt CTF should have played, even with the flu, should put country 1st. But this is Rexy in anger talking, remember he blasted KKK in March, cooled down aft that.

3) Hmm, you watched Fuzzy pair play live in Jakarta, so that particular performance you'll know better. I'm not sure if you follow Fuzzy pair's progress, they also have this "nervous' syndrome. They did miserably at WC 2007, out in 1st round, TC qualifiers in Feb 2008, lost to Korea stratch pair. They have tendency to crumble at major tourneys.
Yes, Fuzzy made breakthru in TC (finally), they're not that consistent yet, and not OG gold material, even at their best.

Personally I think the coaching committee are divided on the decision, so decided to have this test.

Uncles results are the best among the 3 pairs, at their age, with frequent tournaments. Once LWW rest up, he'll be ok.

4) KKK/TBH also lost badly against Fu/Cai in TC & didnt do well this year but Rexy still chose them as 1st choice, which for some doesnt make sense. Can you think of why?

5) And yes, Rexy was impressed enuf with Fuzzy to give them a chance for OG. I think Rexy himself also surprised Fuzzy finally pulled thru a pressured situation.

[Dato A]

highest rank doesn't gurantee they sure win in OG...I don tink replace KKK/TBH with uncles is a right choice..age factor..
KKK/TBH,both of them hav enough experience,stamina,technique,potential n qualified to compete in OG but they juz lack of confidence n duno how to handle their pressure n stress..

CTF/LWW is the highest ranked mas men's doubles in the WR.

Who's saying that KKK/TBH is the better bet of winning medals in OG compared to CTF/LWW?

I thought the results from matches to matches, tourney to tourney show us who's deserves to be send to OG.:confused:

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kkk/tbh ''downhilled'' and under-performance for so long but they've gain to entry ticket to the OG.:mad::mad:

The Fuzzy's only play 1 good game, then got chances to go to OG.:mad:

The Uncles, at the age of 30++, put their effort so hard as to qualify for OG, and because of ''TC INCIDENT'', Their place are consider to be replace.:mad::mad:

What is this?

If it is bcos of age or low chances to win medals, I think all players from mas should not be send to OG except LCW.

WCH can will medals? Why send him?

[Dato A]

dONT FORGET tHE fUZZY'S only beat the CAP AYAM's CHN PAIR IN THE TC. Nothing to be proud of it.

Want to send them to replace The Uncles? Ask Them to beat one of the top pairs in the world 1st including the uncles!!

[koo_fan]

Hard to be in the public eyes...

Cant do this and that!

Extreme Pressure. :eek:

Gonna give them some spaces but we also wish victory!
I think this is the right attitude.Im with u on this matter.
But,a champon remain as champion no matter what.I guess time will let us figure out who is our sweetheart.

Hope my kkk is in the book.

[koo_fan]

dONT FORGET tHE fUZZY'S only beat the CAP AYAM's CHN PAIR IN THE TC. Nothing to be proud of it.

Want to send them to replace The Uncles? Ask Them to beat one of the top pairs in the world 1st including the uncles!!
And..that cap ayam china pair beat world class korean pair.
Give our fuzzy's some appreciation.
They melt my heart throughout the thomas cup.

[Dato A]

And..that cap ayam china pair beat world class korean pair.
Give our fuzzy's some appreciation.
They melt my heart throughout the thomas cup.

If Lee Hyun Il beat BCL, then the pressure will be on the CHN pair and not the Koreans. The Koreans lost to XZB/GZD bcos of pressure and inexperienced.

The Fuzzy's handle of the must-win pressure is good. But to say that they are in better chances in OG rather than The Uncles i dont think so.

Beat JJS/LYD, CY/FHF or MK/HS if they want to play OG.

[SibugiChai]

dONT FORGET tHE fUZZY'S only beat the CAP AYAM's CHN PAIR IN THE TC. Nothing to be proud of it.

Want to send them to replace The Uncles? Ask Them to beat one of the top pairs in the world 1st including the uncles!!

CAP AYAM would be abit over! They are new and unproven pair... not really CAP AYAM standard..

ahahahhaha

But goood for joking! :D

[Wong8Egg]

UNCLEs chances of winning OG08 is better than Fuzzy but UNCLEs will be too OLD for Next Olympic so if send FUZZY there. THey can gain experience thus next Olympic will be better equiped.

But I think BAM will choose UNCLEs instead of FUZZY because UNCLEs is old horse sure got lotta connection in BAM.

You can send Fuzzy to play one game of you can send Uncles who has a good chance to reach semi.

I really pity the Uncles because they did well through out the years and I think they deserve one last shot for their ranking, experience, years of serving and skills over KKK/TBH(the one time wonder) and Fuzzy. :(

[eaglehelang]

If Lee Hyun Il beat BCL, then the pressure will be on the CHN pair and not the Koreans. The Koreans lost to XZB/GZD bcos of pressure and inexperienced.

The Fuzzy's handle of the must-win pressure is good. But to say that they are in better chances in OG rather than The Uncles i dont think so.

Beat JJS/LYD, CY/FHF or MK/HS if they want to play OG.

LOL, "Cap Ayam". Dato, actually this Cap Ayam China pair beat Lee/Jung during India Open 2008, I think it was in Semis. They also beat our uncles before. So far, I think Guo/Xie havent beaten KKK/TBH.

Fuzzy also beat FU/Cai before lah, China Open 2007, our 3 top MD pairs beat Fu/Cai bf, this already mentioned many times.

But I also stated that prefer uncles to go OG than Fuzzy. Pity LWW especially, he has the determination, just uncle CTF stimes....

[V3i HoN6]

The environment for players and coaches in MAS is too tainted with non-badminton interests who have more influence in the decision-making process.

Badminton interests is not the priority for BAM. Money is, and unfortunately, short-sightedness that comes with it.

It's astounding with Rexy on board, that his charges have not begun to show anything resembling a track record.

-dave
LOL. How is that so?
I'd really like you to share with us some information that only could get in Vancouver.
Money of course play a part is every single thing in this world.
But to say it is too tainted with money politic then it is really sorry to say it but a bit of smartass to me.
There are of course problems like sending who but not who instead of who which will never be agree by everyone or some China coach not going renew their contracts but mostly the players themselves caught in their own struggles. I dont remember when is the last time a decision is made based on money and anyone profited from it except the player that play to win it.

[X Ball]

LOL. How is that so?
I'd really like you to share with us some information that only could get in Vancouver.
Money of course play a part is every single thing in this world.
But to say it is too tainted with money politic then it is really sorry to say it but a bit of smartass to me.
There are of course problems like sending who but not who instead of who which will never be agree by everyone or some China coach not going renew their contracts but mostly the players themselves caught in their own struggles. I dont remember when is the last time a decision is made based on money and anyone profited from it except the player that play to win it.

Vancouver is tainted with 'money politics information'. They seem to be an authority on MAS players & coaches.:D

[Pemuda]

LOL. How is that so?
I'd really like you to share with us some information that only could get in Vancouver.
Money of course play a part is every single thing in this world.
But to say it is too tainted with money politic then it is really sorry to say it but a bit of smartass to me.
There are of course problems like sending who but not who instead of who which will never be agree by everyone or some China coach not going renew their contracts but mostly the players themselves caught in their own struggles. I dont remember when is the last time a decision is made based on money and anyone profited from it except the player that play to win it.

No money politics in our sports??! :o

Reminds me of the boiling frog story. Its true you know, if a frog is placed in boiling water it will jump out. But if it is placed in a cold water that is slowly heated, it will never know whats happening.

Anyway, here's a little tip of the iceberg ; http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=21506.

Hmmm ... if there is no money in sports, why are all our sports association filled with politicians and their lackeys?? Are you saying these so-called politicians and political yes-men are experts in sports and administration?

[V3i HoN6]

No money politics in our sports??! :o

Reminds me of the boiling frog story. Its true you know, if a frog is placed in boiling water it will jump out. But if it is placed in a cold water that is slowly heated, it will never know whats happening.

Anyway, here's a little tip of the iceberg ; http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=21506.

Hmmm ... if there is no money in sports, why are all our sports association filled with politicians and their lackeys?? Are you saying these so-called politicians and political yes-men are experts in sports and administration?
Oh come on Pemuda.
Put words in my mouth.
I was talking about BAM then the next minutes it becomes the sports as a whole and some Tom boy sports minister wasting the taxpayer money. And I didnt even said that Money politics didn't exist just that it is not the main factor which, is the player themselves. My point is simple, I just don't agree with Mr Dave saying that money was put before badminton interest with no facts and even a bit of clues put in to make a serious accusation like this.

So it is more convenient now that it is not the metrosexual or Hafiz or whoever's fault? Even it is a big contradiction to what you been preaching about all this while? That the player sucks and no excuse. So it is now Azalina's fault that he wasted the money and make us lost in Thomas cup?

Or you simply telling me that they are money politics exist in sports? Ohh i know that now. Thank you. Every single thing in this world was somehow in some way related to money. That's what I said. remember?

You see all you do it is when you see something not happy about it. Then you talk about something else which is very very bad to confuse the subject. So in the end, everyone led to believe it is all bad. You would have name BAM as we are talking about here instead of some WSFFM which founded exactly for the reason of corruption. Or Yap Kim Hock taking money from XXX or Lim Leong Sik son in the Thomas Cup Squad if it's really a tip of the iceberg.
The thing about the boiling frog story is that the frog actually sank by your words.

[Pemuda]

Oh come on Pemuda.
Put words in my mouth.
I was talking about BAM then the next minutes it becomes the sports as a whole and some Tom boy sports minister wasting the taxpayer money. And I didnt even said that Money politics didn't exist just that it is not the main factor which, is the player themselves. My point is simple, I just don't agree with Mr Dave saying that money was put before badminton interest with no facts and even a bit of clues put in to make a serious accusation like this.

So it is more convenient now that it is not the metrosexual or Hafiz or whoever's fault? Even it is a big contradiction to what you been preaching about all this while? That the player sucks and no excuse. So it is now Azalina's fault that he wasted the money and make us lost in Thomas cup?

Or you simply telling me that they are money politics exist in sports? Ohh i know that now. Thank you. Every single thing in this world was somehow in some way related to money. That's what I said. remember?

You see all you do it is when you see something not happy about it. Then you talk about something else which is very very bad to confuse the subject. So in the end, everyone led to believe it is all bad. You would have name BAM as we are talking about here instead of some WSFFM which founded exactly for the reason of corruption. Or Yap Kim Hock taking money from XXX or Lim Leong Sik son in the Thomas Cup Squad if it's really a tip of the iceberg.
The thing about the boiling frog story is that the frog actually sank by your words.

Calm down, calm down. Before you scream things are being forced down your throat and all, lets have some calm please.

Ok now, since you are now calm and collected & all, lets look at the TC. The last time we won it was in 92. Thats 16 years ago, right? And Malaysia, despite all the money our government put into the game year in & year out, we got no one other than WCH & HH to play 2nd & 3rd MS. WCH, is past his prime and HH is a shuttler who consistently have been underperforming BUT instead of others we took them along. Now, the question is what happened to our development??? What happened to all the money our government invested??? You mean, Malaysia despite all the money and development still got no one other than an expired shuttler and a broken one??

As for BAM, where is the accountability??? As a badminton playing nation that till today has yet to win either the WC or Olympic gold, where is the accountability? Why do we still see the same jokers in BAM every year when the results are poor? Its like there are no stewardship in BAM. If money was not put before the sport i.e. badminton, then why do we have politicians like Zakaria Deros in the makeup???

If there are no money politics in our badminton, why would LCW play doubles with Ling Hee Liong just before the All England during the run-up to our GE?? Or why would BAM sent the entire entourage to Machap for the by-election last year??

[Pemuda]

Oh come on Pemuda.
Put words in my mouth.
I was talking about BAM then the next minutes it becomes the sports as a whole and some Tom boy sports minister wasting the taxpayer money. And I didnt even said that Money politics didn't exist just that it is not the main factor which, is the player themselves. My point is simple, I just don't agree with Mr Dave saying that money was put before badminton interest with no facts and even a bit of clues put in to make a serious accusation like this.


Our sports ministry is there to develop & govern all our sporting bodies. If our sports ministry is not in order, how in the world would you expect BAM to do the right thing? :o

[wood_22_chuck]

Following historical indicators is one of the ways you can gain insight of how things are. It's data, factual.

There are many sharps minds following the badminton scene in MAS, here on this forum, here in this thread. Data collectors, like eaglehelang, scouring newspapers, citing credible sources, win/loss records. There are people who interpret this data and provide their own spin and opinions, Dato/Pemuda, and to a lesser degree, myself.

You can't disagree with the data points. You can disagree with opinions. Unless you live under communism, that is. You can even ridicule, but I'll say that it tells me that the opinions have struck a raw nerve, and your knee-jerk reaction is a crude one.

Onwards.

It makes sense to put forward a utopian view that MAS badminton isn't functioning very well at the moment, and only LCW has shown great strides in effort and results that make badminton fans and spectators say, "Yes, he is a contender."

For the others?

The future is in the youngsters, but Razif's hands are tied. Rexy's power of decision is not dominantly his as well.

Heck the data's in the Malaysian newpapers and here on the forum, so much closer to y'all than here in Vancouver. And there's nothing secret about it.

-dave

[V3i HoN6]

Calm down, calm down. Before you scream things are being forced down your throat and all, lets have some calm please.

Ok now, since you are now calm and collected & all, lets look at the TC. The last time we won it was in 92. Thats 16 years ago, right? And Malaysia, despite all the money our government put into the game year in & year out, we got no one other than WCH & HH to play 2nd & 3rd MS. WCH, is past his prime and HH is a shuttler who consistently have been underperforming BUT instead of others we took them along. Now, the question is what happened to our development??? What happened to all the money our government invested??? You mean, Malaysia despite all the money and development still got no one other than an expired shuttler and a broken one??

As for BAM, where is the accountability??? As a badminton playing nation that till today has yet to win either the WC or Olympic gold, where is the accountability? Why do we still see the same jokers in BAM every year when the results are poor? Its like there are no stewardship in BAM. If money was not put before the sport i.e. badminton, then why do we have politicians like Zakaria Deros in the makeup???

If there are no money politics in our badminton, why would LCW play doubles with Ling Hee Liong just before the All England during the run-up to our GE?? Or why would BAM sent the entire entourage to Machap for the by-election last year??
As expected more spinning from you.
Im not sure how did you see me screaming and need to calm down but that certainly an attempt to mislead people to believe who disagree with you are grumpy 13 years old sit behind a computer banging the keyboard.
Then conveniently ignore what I have to say and go on harping on the mismanagement and accountability like we all don't know about it. So anyone ever defended BAM of non-facts based accusation now became big supporter of BAM and deny of any mismanagement of BAM. (Although still I would think it is out of stupidity and pride rather than money in badminton). Then again, bring out the same old "result" thing like Malaysia is worst than XXXX. I'm surprise you didn't bring out FAM.
I admit Malaysia is doing badly. Malaysia ranked 4-5 th in the world. I know that is not a good result but I just couldn't take it the way you are saying it like we are out in preliminary round every years. And how much money we invested compare to Korea, Japan, China, Indonesia, Singapore, England, Denmark, Thailand? There are no official figure but you are fast to assume we invested more than they do, and perform less than them.(although it's true for China and Indonesia)
On top of that, summon Zakaria Deros from death to further confuse the situation. Now he is related to badminton everyone. His name is too big of a "Wow" that everyone will forget the actual relation of this 2 things.


Our sports ministry is there to develop & govern all our sporting bodies. If our sports ministry is not in order, how in the world would you expect BAM to do the right thing? :o
So what do you expect of the metro sexual every time you spill your craps on him?

[V3i HoN6]

Following historical indicators is one of the ways you can gain insight of how things are. It's data, factual.

There are many sharps minds following the badminton scene in MAS, here on this forum, here in this thread. Data collectors, like eaglehelang, scouring newspapers, citing credible sources, win/loss records. There are people who interpret this data and provide their own spin and opinions, Dato/Pemuda, and to a lesser degree, myself.

You can't disagree with the data points. You can disagree with opinions. Unless you live under communism, that is. You can even ridicule, but I'll say that it tells me that the opinions have struck a raw nerve, and your knee-jerk reaction is a crude one.

Onwards.

It makes sense to put forward a utopian view that MAS badminton isn't functioning very well at the moment, and only LCW has shown great strides in effort and results that make badminton fans and spectators say, "Yes, he is a contender."

For the others?

The future is in the youngsters, but Razif's hands are tied. Rexy's power of decision is not dominantly his as well.

Heck the data's in the Malaysian newpapers and here on the forum, so much closer to y'all than here in Vancouver. And there's nothing secret about it.

-dave
You are stating the obvious, no matter how bombastic the way you put it, we all know in some way MAS badminton isn't functioning very well.
But to conclude it on Money politics then you are getting ahead of yourself, especially when you didn't back it up with any single facts or any supporting materials that lead to the believing. The data, factual only can go as far to tell the Malaysian isn't doing well but not the reason.
I did not deny there are problems with the management like putting stupid people on top to make decision and we have reason to believe that. But from where that you can conclude the main reason behind this is money involves or rather than some false sense of pride or just simply stupidity?

See I don't actually give a damn if it is like what you said but hey, let's share what we don't know but you know about.

My opinion is still the player play the bigger parts in the success or failure as long as they get the chance to play. Indonesia PBSI has their problems too but didn't stop Taufik from hitting it. Heck China has their management problem too but their result is too good to made everything including foul play looks minor in comparison.

Like one of the argument brought up by pemuda is the use of WCH and HAfiz rather than sending youngster. Hey, that's what I think too. That's clearly an mismanagement of BAM and been carry on too long to cost us dearly but what's that got to do with money? WCH have better monetary beneficent that TCS or Arif? (Although I know that is his tactics spinning confusion and make you believe that I believe otherwise).

Don't worry about the knee jerk reaction as Pemuda can handle it very well. You won't see me being as crude to you. Pardon me but you can ignore me if you can't be able to argue straight and simple rather than spun a bunch of rhetorical double of what I say.

[wood_22_chuck]

Okay, I'll bite. Let's start from where we agree on.

"There are problems with the management like putting stupid people on top to make decision and we have reason to believe that."

How did these stupid people get there, and why are they not being removed? What's your take on this?

-dave

[george@chongwei]

so kkk/tbh had already been confirmed to the OG08...
shall we close this thread now?:p

[wood_22_chuck]

so kkk/tbh had already been confirmed to the OG08...
shall we close this thread now?:p

No objections from me. :D

-dave

[Dato A]

so kkk/tbh had already been confirmed to the OG08...
shall we close this thread now?:p

Still not yet. Fuzzy's still got chances:D:D

[jimbo]

Still not yet. Fuzzy's still got chances:D:D

aiyoo... "uncle Chong" wanna go Beijing to meet his "sweetheart", u oso wanna kacau meh? :p

[Dato A]

aiyoo... "uncle Chong" wanna go Beijing to meet his "sweetheart", u oso wanna kacau meh? :p

His health condition is not good now, meet also no use.:D:D

[Jagdpanther]

Perhaps someone should create another thread: "Uncles or FuzZy?"

[eaglehelang]

[quote=V3i HoN6;885201]Like one of the argument brought up by pemuda is the use of WCH and HAfiz rather than sending youngster. Hey, that's what I think too. That's clearly an mismanagement of BAM and been carry on too long to cost us dearly but what's that got to do with money? WCH have better monetary beneficent that TCS or Arif? (Although I know that is his tactics spinning confusion and make you believe that I believe otherwise).

quote]

Hi there V3, long time no see :D:D.

Btw, the above point I already argue out with Pemuda in Tc threads. There'll always be differing opinions. More of us are of the opinion (including me), should send senior like LTS, Roslin as 4th MS. This includes the press except one, I think Malay Mail. Heck, bringing Arif along was also questioned since he wasnt deemed good enuf to be fielded.

If decide one way, one group of taxpayers will disagree, if decide another way - "waste public $$$", another group of taxpayers will disagree & say "Waste public $$$".
Most are taxpayers, contribute to that "public $$$". Whichever way BAM decided, in TC instance, will have people comment and that's saying it mildly.

Back to topic : Which ever 2 pairs chosen to go OG, there will be ppl complaining, already did in this thread. Some think if uncles go, waste public $$$. Others think Fuzzy or KKK/TBH not good enuf, also waste public $$$.

Then go fully private, all players + coaches go KLRC, can become like young Zulfadli, get to go International tourneys ;) .Then also sure will have people comment "WHy government never take care of core sports, that's why cannot progress." or "Why KLRC pinch players?"(already happened early this year).

See you in the threads for Spore Open.

[eaglehelang]

Perhaps someone should create another thread: "Uncles or FuzZy?"

Someone did post the news article in the other thread but everyone seems to still come here.

[george@chongwei]

Someone did post the news article in the other thread but everyone seems to still come here.
maybe the moderator can edit this thread title?

[limsy]

CAP AYAM would be abit over! They are new and unproven pair... not really CAP AYAM standard..

ahahahhaha

But goood for joking! :D

new???...they play for years with different patner if i am not mistaken...

[Dato A]

new???...they play for years with different patner if i am not mistaken...

Yes. Maybe he dont know the players, just forgive him/her.:D

[Dato A]

Example la....

The reason I support FUZZY is because they can play in next olympic but UNCLES cannot, somemore UNCLES always "kan Chiong" in finals:crying:

???What theory is this?

WCH also cannot play next OG.

No matter how bad they are, AT LEAST they r able to reach final. Fuzzy?

[limsy]

Yes. Maybe he dont know the players, just forgive him/her.:D

forgive???...i just state the truth...^^...:D

[Dato A]

BAM is very political! That's why I am quit sure UNCLEs will be send unless FuZZY knows some important Datuk!:D

Wrong also.

If CTF/LWW ranked lower than Fuzzy then your theory is correct. But now Fuzzy's ranking is lower than The Uncles.If it is like this, Fuzzy is going to replace The Uncles, then for sure it's not only political or datuks are involved, even the colors....

[eaglehelang]

???What theory is this?

WCH also cannot play next OG.

No matter how bad they are, AT LEAST they r able to reach final. Fuzzy?


Wrong also.

If CTF/LWW ranked lower than Fuzzy then your theory is correct. But now Fuzzy's ranking is lower than The Uncles.If it is like this, Fuzzy is going to replace The Uncles, then for sure it's not only political or datuks are involved, even the colors....

This guy/gal dont like Uncles personally, read thru the posts.

Dato, oh Dato, have patience for a few days. I heard it was reported in Sin Chew that if uncles, esp LWW pass medical test, uncles will go. Only if uncle Lee injury serious, then Fuzzy replace... so...

And yeah, I already implied that certain quarters have preferance for Fuzzy. Fuzzy pair is featured more in malay press than uncles though uncles have better results, they are the only ...... pair. Same thing was said when Arif was chosen over TCS for TC.
But Fuzzy themselves very humble wan. Rexy doesnt play favourites, if the pairs no 4,5,6 were better, they'll be the ones we're debating now.

[samuel882]

I wonder if LWW or CFT injured after BAM submitted the entries by 31st May dateline for OG, did the rules allow them being replaced by the fuzzy??

[charmlene]

haha..at that time maybe no changes can be made already..haha

[Han]

Rexy has cleared the air and stated Lee/Choong will be sent to Olympic if Wan Wah able to recover from injury. The other pair will be Koo/Tan as this pair is still the most fear by the opponents.
Still 3 months away from Olympic and unless Lee/Choong and Koo/Tan really screw up during this period of time else I don't see why Rexy should take any extreme action replacing.
Stay tune though, we know Rexy loves drama and you can bet more drama will arise just hope it doesn't impact players mood and cost us big time in Olympic :crying:

[SibugiChai]

FUZZY are malays la...

Got special rights!

Fuzzy must go to OG!!!

[olympic]

FUZZY are malays la...

Got special rights!

Fuzzy must go to OG!!!

No such thing special rights,it is about result proven.Choong-Lee still hold the edge over Fairuz.-Zakry.Rexy knew it..

[jimbo]

FUZZY are malays la...

Got special rights!

Fuzzy must go to OG!!!

Pls dun stir up the race issues here... we love peace and harmony and of coz, badminton ;)

[Hitman71]

Source NST 27/7/08

Wan Wah poser

By : Ajitpal Singh (ajitpalsingh@nst.com.my)


THE Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) will be taking a huge risk if they register Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah for the Beijing Olympics.
Regardless of whether Wan Wah, who suffered an injury in his right shoulder, is given a clean bill of health by the National Sports Insitute (NSC) doctors, the player could easily aggravate his injury in competition or training prior to the Games.

International Olympic Council (IOC) rules clearly state that a nation cannot replace any of its registered athletes with an unregistered athlete after the Beijing Games registration deadline.

For badminton, countries have until Saturday to submit its complete list of shuttlers. Badminton World Federation (BWF) events and development manager, M. Venugopal confirmed the IOC ruling.

"In Malaysia's case, if Wan Wah is registered for the event and gets injured after the deadline, his partner (Tan Fook) can still compete in the doubles, provided he partners another registered shuttler. However, this must be done before the draw is finalised," said Venugopal yesterday.
This being the case, it would be a safer option for the BAM to opt for third choice Zakry Latif-Fairuzizuan Tazari to accompany Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong to Beijing.

Kien Keat-Boon Heong, Tan Fook-Wan Wah and Zakry-Fairuzizuan are the three doubles pairs who have qualified for the Olympics on merit. However, any one country can enter only two pairs for the event.

After being advised to rest for a week, Wan Wah reported for training yesterday but only for physical conditioning.

Wan Wah and the other Olympic-bound shuttlers also went through a medical test and will continue with the physical test today.

Meanwhile, national chief coach Yap Kim Hock said the BAM will announce its Olympic-bound squad on Friday.

"We, the coaching committee, will need to discuss the medical and physical test results of all the shuttlers before finalising the list," said Kim Hock.

The other shuttlers who have qualified for the Olympics are World No 2 Lee Chong Wei, Wong Mew Choo and Wong Pei Tty-Chin Eei Hui.
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If Fuzzy is selected, its not because of their colours ...

[Hitman71]

Rexy: Fairuzizuan-Zakry can handle pressure at Olympics

By LIM TEIK HUAT

KUALA LUMPUR: National doubles chief coach Rexy Mainaky does not think that Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari-Mohd Zakry Latif will get cold feet if they get the nod to make their Olympic debut in Beijing in August.
He said that the duo had proved their ability to handle big challenges in the recent Thomas Cup Finals in Jakarta.
Then, Fairuzizuan-Zakry kept Malaysia alive in the semi-final tie against China. They won the second doubles match against Guo Zhendong-Xie Xhongbo to level the tie at 2-2. But Malaysia went on to lose 2-3 with the defeat of Mohd Hafiz Hashim by Chen Jin.
“They did well in their first Thomas Cup appearance together and I am proud of them for keeping Malaysia's hopes alive at that point,” said Rexy.
“If they can handle the pressure in the Thomas Cup, I believe they will have no problem dealing with it in the Olympics. I would say that the pressure in the Thomas Cup Finals is greater because the whole team count on you. It's more individual in the Olympics.”
While the Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) would have no problem naming the two men's pairs for the Beijing Games under normal circumstances, a right shoulder injury suffered by Lee Wan Wah in the Thomas Cup Finals has put his participation in a partnership with Choong Tan Fook in doubt.
Malaysia can pick Fairuzizuan-Zakry as one of their two entries because the duo are among the top 16 pairs in the world at the end of the Olympic qualifying period. The other pair who made the cut are Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong.
The BAM will subject all three pairs to medical and physical tests beginning today. They have to name the two pairs for the Beijing Games before Friday. No replacement is allowed after the submission of the final list.
“We have to find out the condition of all the players before making a final decision,” said Rexy.
Zakry said that they would not raise their hopes too high over getting to play in the Olympics.
“If we get to go, we will surely be ready for the challenges. We will continue training for our next assignment at the Singapore Open next month,” he said.

[bcmmgr]

Rexy: Fairuzizuan-Zakry can handle pressure at Olympics

By LIM TEIK HUAT

KUALA LUMPUR: National doubles chief coach Rexy Mainaky does not think that Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari-Mohd Zakry Latif will get cold feet if they get the nod to make their Olympic debut in Beijing in August.
He said that the duo had proved their ability to handle big challenges in the recent Thomas Cup Finals in Jakarta.
Then, Fairuzizuan-Zakry kept Malaysia alive in the semi-final tie against China. They won the second doubles match against Guo Zhendong-Xie Xhongbo to level the tie at 2-2. But Malaysia went on to lose 2-3 with the defeat of Mohd Hafiz Hashim by Chen Jin.
“They did well in their first Thomas Cup appearance together and I am proud of them for keeping Malaysia's hopes alive at that point,” said Rexy.
“If they can handle the pressure in the Thomas Cup, I believe they will have no problem dealing with it in the Olympics. I would say that the pressure in the Thomas Cup Finals is greater because the whole team count on you. It's more individual in the Olympics.”
While the Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) would have no problem naming the two men's pairs for the Beijing Games under normal circumstances, a right shoulder injury suffered by Lee Wan Wah in the Thomas Cup Finals has put his participation in a partnership with Choong Tan Fook in doubt.
Malaysia can pick Fairuzizuan-Zakry as one of their two entries because the duo are among the top 16 pairs in the world at the end of the Olympic qualifying period. The other pair who made the cut are Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong.
The BAM will subject all three pairs to medical and physical tests beginning today. They have to name the two pairs for the Beijing Games before Friday. No replacement is allowed after the submission of the final list.
“We have to find out the condition of all the players before making a final decision,” said Rexy.
Zakry said that they would not raise their hopes too high over getting to play in the Olympics.
“If we get to go, we will surely be ready for the challenges. We will continue training for our next assignment at the Singapore Open next month,” he said.

1 game in 1 tournament cannot proof anything. How about Guo Zhendong-Xie Xhongbo, they lost in semi final, is it mean they cannot handle pressure ? but they win in the final mean they have strong mentality ? If follow MAS style, after Guo Zhendong-Xie Xhongbo lost in the semi, they probably won't have a chance to play in the final.

[bcmmgr]

Source NST 27/7/08

Wan Wah poser

By : Ajitpal Singh (ajitpalsingh@nst.com.my)


THE Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) will be taking a huge risk if they register Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah for the Beijing Olympics.
Regardless of whether Wan Wah, who suffered an injury in his right shoulder, is given a clean bill of health by the National Sports Insitute (NSC) doctors, the player could easily aggravate his injury in competition or training prior to the Games.

International Olympic Council (IOC) rules clearly state that a nation cannot replace any of its registered athletes with an unregistered athlete after the Beijing Games registration deadline.

For badminton, countries have until Saturday to submit its complete list of shuttlers. Badminton World Federation (BWF) events and development manager, M. Venugopal confirmed the IOC ruling.

"In Malaysia's case, if Wan Wah is registered for the event and gets injured after the deadline, his partner (Tan Fook) can still compete in the doubles, provided he partners another registered shuttler. However, this must be done before the draw is finalised," said Venugopal yesterday.
This being the case, it would be a safer option for the BAM to opt for third choice Zakry Latif-Fairuzizuan Tazari to accompany Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong to Beijing.

Kien Keat-Boon Heong, Tan Fook-Wan Wah and Zakry-Fairuzizuan are the three doubles pairs who have qualified for the Olympics on merit. However, any one country can enter only two pairs for the event.

After being advised to rest for a week, Wan Wah reported for training yesterday but only for physical conditioning.

Wan Wah and the other Olympic-bound shuttlers also went through a medical test and will continue with the physical test today.

Meanwhile, national chief coach Yap Kim Hock said the BAM will announce its Olympic-bound squad on Friday.

"We, the coaching committee, will need to discuss the medical and physical test results of all the shuttlers before finalising the list," said Kim Hock.

The other shuttlers who have qualified for the Olympics are World No 2 Lee Chong Wei, Wong Mew Choo and Wong Pei Tty-Chin Eei Hui.
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If Fuzzy is selected, its not because of their colours ...


Anyone may still get injure after the deadline, how about KKK get injure during Singapore Open....so they shouldn't send KKK/TBH to olympic too......

we cannot guarantee any one will not get injure after the deadline, unless DO NOT send any of the qualify players to tournament, and all of the qualify players cannot do training (training may get injure too) until after olympic. So from now on, those players can go to movie everyday.....oh cannot, how about if they accident get injure during driving to the cinema, they best way is keep them in the jail until after olympic.

I think this article is very unfair to LWW.

(remember LCY get accident right before World Championship).

[limsy]

1 game in 1 tournament cannot proof anything. How about Guo Zhendong-Xie Xhongbo, they lost in semi final, is it mean they cannot handle pressure ? but they win in the final mean they have strong mentality ? If follow MAS style, after Guo Zhendong-Xie Xhongbo lost in the semi, they probably won't have a chance to play in the final.

as i say before...no one knew the player better than coach...is rexy a malaysia badminton fan???no...he is profesional...so...he will not say that :oh!!!my good boy...u win against chinese 2n md...u can go OG....

he already say he prepare to let fairuz/zakry to face cai/fu and let ctf/kkk in second double...and this plan been cancelled due to ctf FLU...this mean rexy knew fairuz/zakry can win over cai/fu and not the off form 1st/2nd double...

u get what i mean???...i am not defending any pair...i just want to say...rexy was not small kid...and ykh too...they will consider all the factor...any pairs send to OG will be the best on current situation......

[Dato A]

FUZZY are malays la...

Got special rights!

Fuzzy must go to OG!!!

What do you mean?

[ants]

There is no special rights involved here. I'm dissapointed that this thing is even mentioned here. I'm a Chinese and i think Fuzzy and Zakry deserve their spot.

[george@chongwei]

FUZZY are malays la...

Got special rights!

Fuzzy must go to OG!!!
wtf are u talking about here???

[Dato A]

FUZZY are malays la...

Got special rights!

Fuzzy must go to OG!!!

Do something. This fellow trying to stir up race issues here.:mad::mad:

[SibugiChai]

There is no special rights involved here. I'm dissapointed that this thing is even mentioned here. I'm a Chinese and i think Fuzzy and Zakry deserve their spot.

LWW/CTF is Shorty's pet

Fuzzy is Rexy's pet

So both fighting for their respective pets.

Welcome to the REAL WORLD! :eek:

[Jagdpanther]

Er... Who is this 'Shorty'?

[limsy]

ctf/lww vs fuzzy in first round of SO!!!...

[limsy]

Er... Who is this 'Shorty'?

i think is ykh...

[Dato A]

LWW/CTF is Shorty's pet

Fuzzy is Rexy's pet

So both fighting for their respective pets.

Welcome to the REAL WORLD! :eek:

And I feels that SibugiChai is Pemuda's pet:D:D

[koo_fan]

ctf/lww vs fuzzy in first round of SO!!!...
Already in 1st round?ok.good opening game.
i go for zakry-fairuz.they seems innocent lately.and full of passion.Can u see that?

[koo_fan]

What do you mean?
Just ignore it.

[koo_fan]

And I feels that SibugiChai is Pemuda's pet:D:D
As i have recalled,Pemuda has never been a racialist.
Not trying to defend him but as far as i remembered,thats the truth.
Try to dismiss this attitude here.Less is better.

[SibugiChai]

Already in 1st round?ok.good opening game.
i go for zakry-fairuz.they seems innocent lately.and full of passion.Can u see that?

I thought UNCLEs are injured? can they play? :D

[eaglehelang]

Er... Who is this 'Shorty'?

Yap Kim Hock.
__________________________________________________ _______________
In case my post yesterday was miscontrued, it's some quarters preferance for Fuzzy pair but I did say Rexy dont play favourities. That's the advantage of having foreign coach, ppl cannot accuse them of having any vested interest in racial preferance. Fuzzy also very humble, they dont play any cards or special rights.

Nobody is nobody's pet. Yap KH defends all players as chief coach. Rexy also blasted Zakry & Fairuz, esp Fairuz, when they off form or not focusing.

Uncles have their strengths & weakness, pro & con to send each pair, they can reach Semi consistently with tournaments every month, is an achievement at their age.

[huangkwokhau]

I think Fuzzy and KKK/TBH should go to OG 08...

[SibugiChai]

Uncles have their strengths & weakness, pro & con to send each pair, they can reach Semi consistently with tournaments every month, is an achievement at their age.

Just wonder, how many BCers are around UNCLEs age? :cool:

[huangkwokhau]

Just wonder, how many BCers are around UNCLEs age? :cool:
Me...hehe and others..:D:D:D

[SibugiChai]

Me...hehe and others..:D:D:D

Kekekek

No wonders all support UNCLEs la

UNCLEs support Uncles

[Dato A]

Kekekek

No wonders all support UNCLEs la

UNCLEs support Uncles

So how old r u? What u wrote here seems that you r probably a primary students.

[limsy]

So how old r u? What u wrote here seems that you r probably a primary students.

but i think he will be older than me...maybe 20++

[ye333]

That's the point!




No matter how bad they are, AT LEAST they r able to reach final. Fuzzy?

[olympic]

Yes,CONSISTENCY.The Uncles have at least reached quater finals in every tournament participated for the 1st half 2008.In 2007,their result not bad too.

[Pemuda]

FUZZY are malays la...

Got special rights!

Fuzzy must go to OG!!!

Do we allow racist comments like this in the forum??? :o

[Pemuda]

LWW/CTF is Shorty's pet

Fuzzy is Rexy's pet

So both fighting for their respective pets.

Welcome to the REAL WORLD! :eek:

As for your REAL WORLD thingy, please take your racist thoughts and comments there, not here.

We are colour blind here.

[koo_fan]

Yes,CONSISTENCY.The Uncles have at least reached quater finals in every tournament participated for the 1st half 2008.In 2007,their result not bad too.
Yes.Consistency.Thats the only resaon we are arguing their prsence in the lineup to beijing.

The main worry is their injury.If Tan fook use his 'fever' excuse again,what should we do?And Lee Wan wah.with his latest injury..

appreciate their effort is one thing,but to present an healthy pair compete in olympic is another one.

[koo_fan]

So how old r u? What u wrote here seems that you r probably a primary students.
He is sibugi chai..chai is a kid rite?
He has funny character.let him post his thought la.
Just dont o overboard.

[koo_fan]

I think Fuzzy and KKK/TBH should go to OG 08...
That sound nice.u gave me a nice feeling by saying that.

[winnie]

Badminton: Wan Wah is all right

By RAJES PAUL

KUALA LUMPUR: Shuttler Lee Wan Wah passed a medical test yesterday and he will get himself ready to participate in the men's doubles event of the Beijing Olympics in August.
However, Choong Tan Fook had mixed reactions over news that his partner had been given a clean bill of health from a shoulder injury picked up at the Thomas Cup Finals in Jakarta two weeks ago.
He is disappointed that for all the hard work that they had put in over the last one-year to qualify for their third Olympics, the Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) are contemplating dropping them.
Doubts over the fitness of Wan Wah had prompted the BAM coaching and training committee to postpone the naming of the men's pairs for the Olympics.
http://www.thestar.com.my/archives/2008/5/28/sports/s_61wanwah.jpg A real torment: BAM to make a final decision on Friday whether Wan Wah (left) and Tan Fook will make the cut to the Beijing Olympic Games.
They said on Saturday, Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari-Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif would be considered for the Games if medical tests on Wan Wah turned out unfavourable.
BAM general manager Kenny Goh said yesterday that they would make a final decision on Friday on the pair to join Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong for the Beijing Games.
“The test (at the National Sports Institute) showed that I was only suffering from a minor muscle strain. It is all right now. The injury could have gotten worse if I had played during the Thomas Cup Finals,” said Wan Wah.
“I am confident that I will be going to Beijing. They (the BAM) have no reason now not to select Tan Fook and I for the Games. I am not injured.”
Tan Fook said that the uncertainly over their participation in the Games even though they had qualified as the fourth ranked pair in the world was tormenting for them for the last one week.
“I knew Wan Wah's injury was not serious. We have about three months more to the Olympics and Wan Wah could get back on his feet in matter of days. I can't understand why we had to go through this at this stage,” he said.
Tan Fook added that it was unfair to question their position in the squad.
“One year ago, despite our age and our condition, we were given the task to qualify for the Olympics. Like everyone else, we worked hard, got up early in the morning for training and sacrificed so much for the sport,” he said.
“We made the top 16 cut as the country's best pair. Then they tell us we may not get to go. This is not right. If they were not serious with us, they should have asked us to stop even before the qualifying season began.”
Despite their condition, Tan Fook said that they had always given their best.
“It is unfortunate that I got ill at the Thomas Cup Finals. My condition was bad. At that time, I thought that the best decision for the team was to field another player, who was in a better condition,” he said.
“In the past, Wan Wah and I played on despite adversities. During the World Championships and China Open last year, Wan Wah had fever but he still played. We have never taken our responsibilities as players in the national team lightly.”
At the World Championships and China Open, Wan Wah-Tan Fook emerged as Malaysia's best performers – reaching the semi-finals.
At the last two Olympics, Tan Fook-Wan Wah failed to get among the medallists and they hope to succeed in their last attempt.

[koo_fan]

English papers in malaysia sometimes sound different with the malay one.
I hope wan wah is ok.Honestly.

so,time to have solid decision,rexy.have no pressure.Just do it slow and steady.
And..have kkk/tbh in the list.i'll attack u if u dont.

[Dato A]

English papers in malaysia sometimes sound different with the malay one.
I hope wan wah is ok.Honestly.

so,time to have solid decision,rexy.have no pressure.Just do it slow and steady.
And..have kkk/tbh in the list.i'll attack u if u dont.

Yes.Malay papers sometimes' story are funny:D

[Dato A]

If CTF/LWW not going, then it will be a huge dissapointment for the veteran pair. With their age and the ranking, they are absolutely marvelous.

[SibugiChai]

If CTF/LWW not going, then it will be a huge dissapointment for the veteran pair. With their age and the ranking, they are absolutely marvelous.

Hermmm

Maybe they should join the Veteran Olympics instead of hanging too long on their seat and giving junior more chances for explosure. :cool:

[Dato A]

Hermmm

Maybe they should join the Veteran Olympics instead of hanging too long on their seat and giving junior more chances for explosure. :cool:

They place in mas team can be replace if the others team can overcome them.thats all.Find me a pair that r ranked higher than them.

[limsy]

English papers in malaysia sometimes sound different with the malay one.
I hope wan wah is ok.Honestly.

so,time to have solid decision,rexy.have no pressure.Just do it slow and steady.
And..have kkk/tbh in the list.i'll attack u if u dont.

haha...attack rexy???...so...who train kkk for u???

[SibugiChai]

They place in mas team can be replace if the others team can overcome them.thats all.Find me a pair that r ranked higher than them.

true... true... they are the highest ranked pair without winning any tournament. :D

[olympic]

Yes,CONSISTENCY.The Uncles have at least reached quater finals in every tournament participated for the 1st half 2008.In 2007,their result not bad too.

[SibugiChai]

Yes,CONSISTENCY.The Uncles have at least reached quater finals in every tournament participated for the 1st half 2008.In 2007,their result not bad too.

True consistency of a "Champion"!!! I didnt know they are this good!

Quarter Final in every tournaments... really a good achievement.

Just wonder is there any medal for quarter finalist in Olympic? :eek:

[eaglehelang]

Yes.Malay papers sometimes' story are funny:D

He he, it's the reporters preferance. NST reporter pro... better put prefer Fuzzy, Berita Harian also. Utusan decided to go with uncles, The Star also. Maybe already 'pakat' (joking, joking), reporters agreed - 'you, uncle reporter, slant towards Uncles, me, young gun reporter, slant towards Fuzzy', both-both fair mah.:D:D


If CTF/LWW not going, then it will be a huge dissapointment for the veteran pair. With their age and the ranking, they are absolutely marvelous.

Ya lah, uncle CTF sound angry in Star intv.


True consistency of a "Champion"!!! I didnt know they are this good!

Quarter Final in every tournaments... really a good achievement.

Just wonder is there any medal for quarter finalist in Olympic? :eek:

What Olympic meant is uncles results overall better than Fuzzy throughout 2007 & 2008. And better than KKK/TBH in 2008. That's consistency, not only QF, they also reached Semi, when all Msia younger pairs crashed out, their draw also stimes had tough opponents.

[olympic]

True consistency of a "Champion"!!! I didnt know they are this good!

Quarter Final in every tournaments... really a good achievement.

Just wonder is there any medal for quarter finalist in Olympic? :eek:

I did not say that was good achievement.I meant in terms of result wise CTF-LWW are consistantly reaching Q.F,meaning they have also reached semi finals and finals.Yes,CTF-LWW have not won much titles and so did Fuzzy.How many finals have Fuzzy reached?You can figure it out with just using 5 fingers.If I'm not mistaken,Fuzzy have yet to win any international title so far.Thus,it is the fact CTF-LWW is the better performer, whether you.like it or not......

[sirjoe1]

I say, let lww,ctf and kk,and tbh go much better chance of winning, and sigh malaysians are not supportive enough of their players, when tbh/kk lost the i forgot what tournament that was malaysia was like booing, how sad. Me? i says: Learn from the lost and move ahead, you'll get ur revenge soon :D

[SibugiChai]

I did not say that was good achievement.I meant in terms of result wise CTF-LWW are consistantly reaching Q.F,meaning they have also reached semi finals and finals.Yes,CTF-LWW have not won much titles and so did Fuzzy.How many finals have Fuzzy reached?You can figure it out with just using 5 fingers.If I'm not mistaken,Fuzzy have yet to win any international title so far.Thus,it is the fact CTF-LWW is the better performer, whether you.like it or not......

The way I see it is that UNCLEs are proven to be NON-WINNER over the years... Not just a year ago but also those year before.

They consistently is losting to better opponent in QF!

Because BAM send them to more tournaments thus their ranking are higher and not likely to meet good opponents in early rounds. :cool:

[ye333]

Uncles: Little chance winning gold. Great chance winning (yet another) medal. Also great chance getting rid of some major opponents (CY/FHF, MK/HS, JJS/LYD, JR/LP, in particular CY/FHF) for KKK/TBH.

Fuzzy: Little chance getting a medal. Small chance eliminating any of the major opponents.

Isn't it easy to decide? :confused: Of course, if LWW's injury is not likely to recover, the situation is very different then (But then it's easy to decide again. Send Fuzzy). :D


The way I see it is that UNCLEs are proven to be NON-WINNER over the years... Not just a year ago but also those year before.

They consistently is losting to better opponent in QF!

Because BAM send them to more tournaments thus their ranking are higher and not likely to meet good opponents in early rounds. :cool:

[Dato A]

Uncles: Little chance winning gold. Great chance winning (yet another) medal. Also great chance getting rid of some major opponents (CY/FHF, MK/HS, JJS/LYD, JR/LP, in particular CY/FHF) for KKK/TBH.

Fuzzy: Little chance getting a medal. Small chance eliminating any of the major opponents.

Isn't it easy to decide? :confused::D

Correct. But someone here still cant see it.:D:D

[koo_fan]

haha...attack rexy???...so...who train kkk for u???
Not to the extent he cannot do his job of course.
It is tommorow.Lets see what happen.
U are neutral,limsy.So,it wont bother u whomever listed in the lineup.

I want to see kkk in olympic.

[koo_fan]

Uncles: Little chance winning gold. Great chance winning (yet another) medal. Also great chance getting rid of some major opponents (CY/FHF, MK/HS, JJS/LYD, JR/LP, in particular CY/FHF) for KKK/TBH.

Fuzzy: Little chance getting a medal. Small chance eliminating any of the major opponents.

Isn't it easy to decide? :confused: Of course, if LWW's injury is not likely to recover, the situation is very different then (But then it's easy to decide again. Send Fuzzy). :D

when it comes to olympic,track records means nothing.it is the will.
Now,tell me which pair will have more passion in playing in olympic?
In other thread,i said fuzzy's place in olympic should be confirm.
we should arguing a place for wanwah/tanfook or kkk/tbh.I mean that.
as im in kkkmania,of course i'll go for kkk/tbh.Personally.

But with the uncles' problems lately,it is still a doubt if they can perform.
which player use fever excuse recently?wan wah is confirmed healthy,maybe but we have doubt rite?

Zakry himself said he didnt put so many hope to play in beijing,he wish to be there so much but leave it to decision maker.
I see that passion.the way he told the press.
But if it is uncles that rexy chose,my support remain.Go uncles go!

[limsy]

Not to the extent he cannot do his job of course.
It is tommorow.Lets see what happen.
U are neutral,limsy.So,it wont bother u whomever listed in the lineup.

I want to see kkk in olympic.

ya...i am neutral between ctf/lww and fairuz/zakry...but i am supporting malaysia...it still bother me...just i dont know why some of the people here so scare that rexy dont know how to make a correct decision???...just relax...any decision will always favour malaysia...relax man...rexy is royal to malaysia...he is not the spy of ina...what make u all so 'gan jiong'???

[ye333]

Why you think the uncles don't have passion? This is their last tournament, last chance. They will fight. Otherwise why did they make such an effort to be World No. 4?

Furthermore, having passion is far from enough. No matter how much passion Fuzzy have, it's not likely they will eliminate any of the top pairs.


when it comes to olympic,track records means nothing.it is the will.
Now,tell me which pair will have more passion in playing in olympic?
In other thread,i said fuzzy's place in olympic should be confirm.
we should arguing a place for wanwah/tanfook or kkk/tbh.I mean that.
as im in kkkmania,of course i'll go for kkk/tbh.Personally.

But with the uncles' problems lately,it is still a doubt if they can perform.
which player use fever excuse recently?wan wah is confirmed healthy,maybe but we have doubt rite?

Zakry himself said he didnt put so many hope to play in beijing,he wish to be there so much but leave it to decision maker.
I see that passion.the way he told the press.
But if it is uncles that rexy chose,my support remain.Go uncles go!

[SibugiChai]

Why you think the uncles don't have passion? This is their last tournament, last chance. They will fight. Otherwise why did they make such an effort to be World No. 4?

Furthermore, having passion is far from enough. No matter how much passion Fuzzy have, it's not likely they will eliminate any of the top pairs.

aiya.. no need to argue la

Let the UNCLEs go china have some fun la...

Win or Lose... they still can have GREAT FUN in China! :D

[pjswift]

Uncles: Little chance winning gold. Great chance winning (yet another) medal. Also great chance getting rid of some major opponents (CY/FHF, MK/HS, JJS/LYD, JR/LP, in particular CY/FHF) for KKK/TBH.

Fuzzy: Little chance getting a medal. Small chance eliminating any of the major opponents.

Isn't it easy to decide? :confused: Of course, if LWW's injury is not likely to recover, the situation is very different then (But then it's easy to decide again. Send Fuzzy). :D
i like this analysis. It's simple and clear.
It's good that LWW and CTF expressed their 'anger' at BAM's consideration to substitute them.This leads me to think that the ultimate reason why CTF/LWW must be chosen and not replaced for OG08 is if they were out, they will quit and the morale of the MAS MDs will hit bottom and their OG08 preparations will be in shambles.So BAM better play safe.
(One lesson CTF should learn from his poor TC decision not to play is that if he had followed Rexy's decision, then Rexy is responsible for any negative outcome;but when CTF didn't, then the blame will fall on CTF even though the coach is the one responsible for the results.Rexy probably had a hunch that kkk/tbh was 'sure to lose' to cai/fu whereas a highly skilled,'imperfect, scratch' pair of ctf/kkk would have an 'intelligence' advantage over any top 'regular' pair, cai/fu included.My apologies to CTF for second guessing about his decision not to play.However, it would be good for CTF to apologise to Rexy for his poor decision not to play, against the coach's wishes, so that they can move on and focus totally on OG08 preparations.)

[charmlene]

hmm i still think the uncles pergi or fuzzy pergi ..it will still be the same..whichever pair is chosen by rexy..just support malaysia nonetheless ...

[SibugiChai]

hmm i still think the uncles pergi or fuzzy pergi ..it will still be the same..whichever pair is chosen by rexy..just support malaysia nonetheless ...

I now 100% behind UNCLEs because UNCLEs can speak chinese thus can communicate better with China "People" and improve China-Malaysia relationship.

Fuzzy would have problem finding their way back to stadium after a night out but UNCLEs sure can have a good time in CHINA with lot of friends.

Let de UNCLEs enjoy their Final Free Tickets & accommodation by Malaysia Tax Money in China which provide so much enjoyment to the rest of the world.

[eaglehelang]

Correct. But someone here still cant see it.:D:D

Dato, I thought you not happy Rexy chose KKK/TBH to go? Or if uncles go, then half happy?:D


Uncles: Little chance winning gold. Great chance winning (yet another) medal. Also great chance getting rid of some major opponents (CY/FHF, MK/HS, JJS/LYD, JR/LP, in particular CY/FHF) for KKK/TBH.

Fuzzy: Little chance getting a medal. Small chance eliminating any of the major opponents.

Isn't it easy to decide? :confused: Of course, if LWW's injury is not likely to recover, the situation is very different then (But then it's easy to decide again. Send Fuzzy). :D

He he, yup. Uncles can charge like the oldies they are, 'kung fu' the opponents, then the young guns can use their 'lazer' power to surge ahead to the finish line 1st.

I just have slight disagreement with "small chance of eliminating...", I think their chance is 'medium'. They can beat Lars/Jonas, Fu/Cai last year. From what I see during the TC match, this year Fuzzy have improved.


Why you think the uncles don't have passion? This is their last tournament, last chance. They will fight. Otherwise why did they make such an effort to be World No. 4?

.

Uncles will be very passionate since it's their last time, injured also never mind, going to retire mah. Before OG, they must be careful, during OG, can go full blast, I hope more than WC 2007.

Rexy like his charges to be passionate like him, "winning attitude" he calls it, since with this (and of course excellent skills) Rexy/Ricky did great in their days.

Having said that, I'm glad Fuzzy are becoming solid pair, after uncles retire, they're up next for the big ones.

[limsy]

I now 100% behind UNCLEs because UNCLEs can speak chinese thus can communicate better with China "People" and improve China-Malaysia relationship.

Fuzzy would have problem finding their way back to stadium after a night out but UNCLEs sure can have a good time in CHINA with lot of friends.

Let de UNCLEs enjoy their Final Free Tickets & accommodation by Malaysia Tax Money in China which provide so much enjoyment to the rest of the world.

i can speak chinese too...can i go???...^^...:D

[taufik-ist]

I now 100% behind UNCLEs because UNCLEs can speak chinese thus can communicate better with China "People" and improve China-Malaysia relationship.

Fuzzy would have problem finding their way back to stadium after a night out but UNCLEs sure can have a good time in CHINA with lot of friends.

Let de UNCLEs enjoy their Final Free Tickets & accommodation by Malaysia Tax Money in China which provide so much enjoyment to the rest of the world.

hmmm i dun like your reason.... language is not a barrier..

[koo_fan]

i like this analysis. It's simple and clear.
It's good that LWW and CTF expressed their 'anger' at BAM's consideration to substitute them.This leads me to think that the ultimate reason why CTF/LWW must be chosen and not replaced for OG08 is if they were out, they will quit and the morale of the MAS MDs will hit bottom and their OG08 preparations will be in shambles.So BAM better play safe.
(One lesson CTF should learn from his poor TC decision not to play is that if he had followed Rexy's decision, then Rexy is responsible for any negative outcome;but when CTF didn't, then the blame will fall on CTF even though the coach is the one responsible for the results.Rexy probably had a hunch that kkk/tbh was 'sure to lose' to cai/fu whereas a highly skilled,'imperfect, scratch' pair of ctf/kkk would have an 'intelligence' advantage over any top 'regular' pair, cai/fu included.My apologies to CTF for second guessing about his decision not to play.However, it would be good for CTF to apologise to Rexy for his poor decision not to play, against the coach's wishes, so that they can move on and focus totally on OG08 preparations.)
If ye333 told me this few weeks ago,i might just go along with her/him.It is pretty simple and understandable.
Zakry-fairuz might not be able to win gold medal few weeks ago.
But,I see a diff pair last week.I feel they can do something for us.I would like to give them chance.
If im in rexy's shoe,i take the risk.It may dissapoint me in the end.Still,i want to take that risk.

If it doesnt turn out the way i want it to be,i will still give my ultra special support for every players in our badminton lineup.
It is simple.It is just a hope.
Im a malaysian first,then,a pro-zakry/fairuz.

[koo_fan]

I now 100% behind UNCLEs because UNCLEs can speak chinese thus can communicate better with China "People" and improve China-Malaysia relationship.

Fuzzy would have problem finding their way back to stadium after a night out but UNCLEs sure can have a good time in CHINA with lot of friends.

Let de UNCLEs enjoy their Final Free Tickets & accommodation by Malaysia Tax Money in China which provide so much enjoyment to the rest of the world.
can i consider ur reason as 'not-serious' one?
U cant be hoping thats the reason we included uncles in lineup.

[sirjoe1]

hmmm.. i say... let.........me go! lolz just kidding :D, unless kk/tbh really have the determination to win .. i say let the "uncles" go they are good :D

[SibugiChai]

hmmm.. i say... let.........me go! lolz just kidding :D, unless kk/tbh really have the determination to win .. i say let the "uncles" go they are good :D

I dare to bet all my pocket money for UNCLEs to win because I just found out CTF's GF is China Girls...

Sure he need to show his mum-in-law his GOLD medal before she let her marry her.

ONe child policy mah!

[Dato A]

I dare to bet all my pocket money for UNCLEs to win because I just found out CTF's GF is China Girls...

Sure he need to show his mum-in-law his GOLD medal before she let her marry her.

ONe child policy mah!

Wahahaha.....:D:D

[eaglehelang]

I dare to bet all my pocket money for UNCLEs to win because I just found out CTF's GF is China Girls...

Sure he need to show his mum-in-law his GOLD medal before she let her marry her.

ONe child policy mah!

LOL, you've been here since 2005, you didnt read the Prof Players thread or CTF's announcement in the media ? Girlfriend is Zhang Jiewen (Uncle fans pls correct the spel if wrong), one half of current WR#1 WD pair.

[SibugiChai]

LOL, you've been here since 2005, you didnt read the Prof Players thread or CTF's announcement in the media ? Girlfriend is Zhang Jiewen (Uncle fans pls correct the spel if wrong), one half of current WR#1 WD pair.

Wah... world no.1 some more sure expensive...

Just hope CTF wont ended up like Ronald Susilo! :cool:

[Dato A]

Wah... world no.1 some more sure expensive...

Just hope CTF wont ended up like Ronald Susilo! :cool:

And we all hope that your curse against CTF/ZJ will not become true.

[SibugiChai]

And we all hope that your curse against CTF/ZJ will not become true.

not curse la

Just concern :cool:

I want CTF to win la...

He is cool

[koo_fan]

Just go for it uncles.do well and prove me wrong.

[charmlene]

haha..i read all ur posts oso blur blur ..duno to support fuzzy or uncles to go liao..

[ye333]

Fuzzy beat CY/FHF in 2006, invitational world cup I think. In 2007 they were easily beaten by CY/FHF in INA MDF.

Fuzzy can aim at 2009 WC. If they can manage to keep improving, they should have chance as many top pairs (CY/FHF, LP/JR, CTF/LWW) will either retire or get weaker. Fuzzy is not afraid of MK/HS anyway.



I just have slight disagreement with "small chance of eliminating...", I think their chance is 'medium'. They can beat Lars/Jonas, Fu/Cai last year. From what I see during the TC match, this year Fuzzy have improved.

[ye333]

Beating Guo/Xie is no big deal. They are at the same level anyway. Just like Guo/Xie beat the hell out of LJJ/HJM, does that suddenly make Guo/Xie a top pair? :cool:


If ye333 told me this few weeks ago,i might just go along with her/him.It is pretty simple and understandable.
Zakry-fairuz might not be able to win gold medal few weeks ago.
But,I see a diff pair last week.I feel they can do something for us.I would like to give them chance.
If im in rexy's shoe,i take the risk.It may dissapoint me in the end.Still,i want to take that risk.

If it doesnt turn out the way i want it to be,i will still give my ultra special support for every players in our badminton lineup.
It is simple.It is just a hope.
Im a malaysian first,then,a pro-zakry/fairuz.

[ye333]

Actually I like your point that Uncles will have no difficulty finding their way back to the Olympic Village... :D Beijing is a big, crowded city... :D


aiya.. no need to argue la

Let the UNCLEs go china have some fun la...

Win or Lose... they still can have GREAT FUN in China! :D

[eaglehelang]

Fuzzy beat CY/FHF in 2006, invitational world cup I think. In 2007 they were easily beaten by CY/FHF in INA MDF.

Fuzzy can aim at 2009 WC. If they can manage to keep improving, they should have chance as many top pairs (CY/FHF, LP/JR, CTF/LWW) will either retire or get weaker. Fuzzy is not afraid of MK/HS anyway.

2006? They were only paired up March or April 2007. Maybe the one you mean was Fairuz/Lin Woon Fui. Fuzzy beat Fu/Cai in China Open 2007, beat Lars/Jonas & Boe/Morgenson in Copenhagen Masters 2007.

They have beaten Indonesia 2nd MD Luluk/Alvent in one of the tourneys this year, they havent been able to beat Kido/Setiawan yet though.

[koo_fan]

Beating Guo/Xie is no big deal. They are at the same level anyway. Just like Guo/Xie beat the hell out of LJJ/HJM, does that suddenly make Guo/Xie a top pair? :cool:
We are not talking about China.they can just pick up any pair they wish and just list them.I wish rexy to take a risk but he didnt.

as for fuzzy's prestigue,i guess eagle has made it clear for u.
They aren't top seed,let alone gold prospect but i think they can do something.

[Dato A]

We are not talking about China.they can just pick up any pair they wish and just list them.I wish rexy to take a risk but he didnt.

as for fuzzy's prestigue,i guess eagle has made it clear for u.
They aren't top seed,let alone gold prospect but i think they can do something.


Win the SO!:D:D

[SibugiChai]

Actually I like your point that Uncles will have no difficulty finding their way back to the Olympic Village... :D Beijing is a big, crowded city... :D

City with lot of temptation, just wonder if CTF & LWW will ended up the 2nd CHua Soi Lek? Since after 1st round they can go shopping, sightseeing and etc! :cool:

[jimbo]

Win the SO!:D:D

They have to beat the "uncles" in the opening round... if Fuzzy did it, I wanna see what's BAM reactions :rolleyes: I wont be suprised if Fuzzy go all the way to win the SO... Lets see who has more fire now... :p

[Felicia_txh]

They have to beat the "uncles" in the opening round... if Fuzzy did it, I wanna see what's BAM reactions :rolleyes: I wont be suprised if Fuzzy go all the way to win the SO... Lets see who has more fire now... :p
Since BAM had decided to let uncles compete in OG,I tink uncles will not upset BAM n those who support them..their dream has comes true..uncles..all the best!!GAMBATE!!:)

[SibugiChai]

Since BAM had decided to let uncles compete in OG,I tink uncles will not upset BAM n those who support them..their dream has comes true..uncles..all the best!!GAMBATE!!:)

Their Dream has come true... Thats so true because their dream is to GO to OG08 not winning it.

I salute them for admitting their limited abilities! :cool:

[Felicia_txh]

Their Dream has come true... Thats so true because their dream is to GO to OG08 not winning it.

I salute them for admitting their limited abilities! :cool:
Ya..I oso respect them..nobody will aim not to win a major tournament like OG!!since they were giving the chance to take part in OG,they must contribute something for Mas..maybe they do not gurantee they will win it but I believe they will try their best to win in OG even China oso can't gurantee they can win the gold medal..:)

[ants]

Going to the Olympic and win a GOLD is every Athletes dream. Going there and not want to play and give it all would be stupid. Disgracing the players would be the worse of all.. no added value.

[samuel882]

the decision already being make by BAM. No point keeps arguing whois the best between UNCLES & FUZZIES.
OLympic games is certainly not a right platform to gain experience for the future.
Lets hopes BAM keep their words and send the FUZZIES(& also other promising young pairs) to more tournaments in the future

[singhzico]

hmm i still think the uncles pergi or fuzzy pergi ..it will still be the same..whichever pair is chosen by rexy..just support malaysia nonetheless ...
Support the malaysia boleh spiritit doesn't matter who goes or win or lose The key is 2 have fun in the name of any sports just give your best That all anyone can do.Thank u 2 everyone who support this manifesto.:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) :):):):):):):):):):)

[ye333]

I was trying to make it clear that beating Guo/Xie doesn't mean anything. So I used Guo/Xie beating Lee/Hwang as an example. IMHO Fuzzy beating Guo/Xie and Guo/Xie beating Lee/Hwang are very similar. They are at the same level, the more determined, more "fired-up" pair won.

If you also agree that they do not have "good prospect", then what's the point sending them? So that fans can watch them lose with dignity in the 2nd round? :confused:


We are not talking about China.they can just pick up any pair they wish and just list them.I wish rexy to take a risk but he didnt.

as for fuzzy's prestigue,i guess eagle has made it clear for u.
They aren't top seed,let alone gold prospect but i think they can do something.