What grade/level badminton do you play ?

[jhirata]

Im quite interested in knowing what level of play most of the people here at BC play at. The grades go from A ( best ) to E ( just social players ).

Most intermediates would be categorised in C - D grade. A grades and B grades are the advanced players, where A would include all the professional players and some top national-level players. B-grade players are somewhere in between intermediates and A-grade players.

Be honest about this please.. :P.. I dont expect everyone to be A-grades :p

I'd also like to have a poll attached to this thread, thanks.

[Dreamzz]

i think you better specify what the intermediate grades are between A and E. looks like only JR and TL would be grade A, the majority of us here are just social players.

[bananakid]

If you refer to the technique section of this site, you should know that about 10% are actually "advance" player(from an amateur player level stand point),and 89% would call themselves "intermediate"(even though more than half of them are just comparing themselves with the very beginners level), and only about 1% are honest enough to call themselves "beginners"

[DinkAlot]

I'm a "D" for Dinker of course...

...or "P" for Panda level. :p

[MSN04]

That's pretty hard to defined.... an A player in Canada may be B or C in China... so...
I think I am an E

Even locally, I was assess as beginner player. Another coach assess me as intermediate to advance-intermediate (whatever that means lol)

[Loopy]

I only eat grade AAA meat.
They are the best, it tastes so much better, and it is very tender.
Even more tender is filet mignon. Miaow !!!!!!

[phandrew]

There is no such thing as a universal grading for all countries so it will be hard to grade everyone.

[MSN04]

There is no such thing as a universal grading for all countries so it will be hard to grade everyone.

BWF ranking? :p

[bad_fanatic]

I think the classification is should be something like this:

A - Amature thinking that they're pro's
B - Between A and C
C - Can finally play some decent badminton
D - Day dreaming of becoming a pro
E - Everything I do is just wrong

So which category are you in now?

[DinkAlot]

There is no such thing as a universal grading for all countries so it will be hard to grade everyone.

Panda has a general guideline:

Super A: Professional players.

A/A-: Semi-Pro, on the verge of pro.

B+/B: An advanced player. Can perform every shot with consistency. Not A- because of the relative lack of (one or more): speed, power, and/or strategy/shot selection (SPS).

B-: An intermediate advanced player. Can perform 85% or more of all the shots consistently but has a few weaknesses that can be exposed by the above.

C+/C: An advanced intermediate player. Can perform 75% or more of all the shots consistently but has more weaknesses that can be exposed by the above.

C-/D+: An intermediate player. Can perform most of all the shots but not consistently. Footwork and strategy OK.

D/D-: A beginning intermediate player. Has some footwork and adequate basic shots.

Advanced Beginner: Can consistently hit the shuttle. Has minor footwork, can smash, drop, clear, a minor backhand and serve.

Intermediate Beginner: Can consistently make contact with the shuttle with an occasional miss. No fundamentals yet.

Beginner - Beginner: Just started playing.

[ViningWolff]

I've got A power, but B- speed and knees.

I'll say B+ or A-.

[MSN04]

Good one there Dinkalot.

I am C-/D+

[smash_master]

im gonna go with B+ to A- since i dont do bad in national tournaments and international ones as well, well the one that i did play. so id say around there im deffinetly trying to go for the top and get to play better nationaly and internationaly if possible so we shall see.

[pawpawsalad]

i am a HD grade player :)

[Green72(CAN)]

C-/d+....................

[phandrew]

According to "The Panda's" guideline i am between C+/B-

[jhirata]

Thanks GrandMaster DinkALot for helping me out with the guidelines..

I'll put myself in C-/d+.

[deadman85]

i guess i would be a D- player...though i only been playing for less than a year...but do take the game seriously...but skill level probably dropped by now since im still recovering a MCL tear...

[Makunouchi]

Nice Guidelines Mr. Panda. I might tell some folks here that I know to use your guidlines if their planning to held club level type tournaments. Since it is more accurate in classifying players skill level.

Btw mine is C- / D+.

[drifit]

I'm a "D" for Dinker of course...

...or "P" for Panda level. :p


Panda has a general guideline:

D/D-: A beginning intermediate player. Has some footwork and adequate basic shots.

i am just same level as yours, class D
D for drifit.............:p

[Roman00]

I'd be around B-.

[jhirata]

At one of the clubs I play at, I'm in E-grade.. They havent changed my grade since I joined.. I decided to ditch that club for life and only come back when they have one of those special member's-only annual club nights where there's free sessions and free food.. I'm D at another club that I play at. Everyone in my grade are too easy to beat, whether it's in singles or doubles. But go up a grade to C, then things get much harder.. so that concludes that I should be C-/D+ :O
I'm happy that I improved so much in a year though..

[silentheart]

F! I flunk out of badminton long long time ago.

[KazeCloud]

If you refer to the technique section of this site, you should know that about 10% are actually "advance" player(from an amateur player level stand point),and 89% would call themselves "intermediate"(even though more than half of them are just comparing themselves with the very beginners level), and only about 1% are honest enough to call themselves "beginners"

I called myself beginner to be honest, because of the extraordinarily good players out there. But I changed it because people here probably class beginners as people who can't even serve and clear properly. I think people call themselves intermediates immediately after they can clear from baseline to baseline. Haha.

[skunklover]

C-, D+,C??
somewhere in there

[Baddict_2006]

i think i belong to the the c+ thanks to sir dinkalot!!!got the info from him!need more improvemnt in shots tho..hehehe.

[Phuong]

i play recreational, and D. My skill only at that high =P

[1dotr]

C- ~~:rolleyes:

[LazyBuddy]

E- stamina and speed
E footwork
E+ strokes
D- strategy

Alright, I quit... :p:D

[Kc_uk]

I was a C+ a few years ago but taking a long break from badminton has made me fall to a D+, but i'm working my way back up the ladder :D

[Fan888]

I will rate myself a C+/C. Can this be made into a poll?

[bananakid]

According to Sir Dink's chart... then I belong in the "B" category

Footwork/speed = B+
technique = B+
deception = B+
anticipation/game-reading = A
handling critical situation(pressure) = C+
power = C:crying:

I think Sir Dink's half smashes(from the youtube video) are about 85%+ of my full smash's power.

[DinkAlot]

I think Sir Dink's half smashes(from the youtube video) are about 85%+ of my full smash's power.

Actually, those are like 1/3 smashes. :p I can do those all day but just about anyone can return them all day. :D

[bananakid]

Actually, those are like 1/3 smashes. :p I can do those all day but just about anyone can return them all day. :D

In that case, I will rate my power down to C- then... by the way, I would love to see you do a full smash... the panda size version of Fu HaiFeng.:p

[DinkAlot]

In that case, I will rate my power down to C- then... by the way, I would love to see you do a full smash... the panda size version of Fu HaiFeng.:p

Forget smashing, if your strategy is "A", I need to learn from you! :D

[bananakid]

Forget smashing, if your strategy is "A", I need to learn from you! :D

Maybe we should team up for a doubles match/tournament in the future... banana + panda may end up being the champion team.:p:D:D:D

Off to my weekday badminton now... I need to train more on power, so hopefully I can match up to your half smash with my full smash. LOL

[DinkAlot]

Maybe we should team up for a doubles match/tournament in the future... banana + panda may end up being the champion team.:p:D:D:D

Off to my weekday badminton now... I need to train more on power, so hopefully I can match up to your half smash with my full smash. LOL


How are your setting skills and net play? If good, let's play! :D

On second thought, even if they are not good, let's play anyway. :D:D:D

[bananakid]

How are your setting skills and net play? If good, let's play! :D

On second thought, even if they are not good, let's play anyway. :D:D:D


Setting and net play is my strongest points + intercepting every possible shots, but since I lack power... my role in almost all doubles matches is the front man(assuming my partner is very strong).

On a side note... I am not yet at Lee Yong Dae kind of lighting speed reaction yet... plus I am 30 years old, so probably not ever going to get to that level...LOL.:p

We need a team name if ever we enter a tournament together... :p

I must get going to my badminton night... or I will really be late.

[DinkAlot]

We need a team name if ever we enter a tournament together... :p


How about "Banana Panda"?

Sorry, I couldn't resist. :p

[jerby]

Panda has a general guideline:

Super A: Professional players.

A/A-: Semi-Pro, on the verge of pro.

B+/B: An advanced player. Can perform every shot with consistency. Not A- because of the relative lack of (one or more): speed, power, and/or strategy/shot selection (SPS).

B-: An intermediate advanced player. Can perform 85% or more of all the shots consistently but has a few weaknesses that can be exposed by the above.

C+/C: An advanced intermediate player. Can perform 75% or more of all the shots consistently but has more weaknesses that can be exposed by the above.

C-/D+: An intermediate player. Can perform most of all the shots but not consistently. Footwork and strategy OK.

D/D-: A beginning intermediate player. Has some footwork and adequate basic shots.

Advanced Beginner: Can consistently hit the shuttle. Has minor footwork, can smash, drop, clear, a minor backhand and serve.

Intermediate Beginner: Can consistently make contact with the shuttle with an occasional miss. No fundamentals yet.

Beginner - Beginner: Just started playing.
a good chart, I think you hit the nail on its head!

only, the difference between the B and A-... which is a ;pain to put in words...
because you need an A(-) players to show the other one he's not an A players:p.
In the national tourny's I do play "A"...but I have a hard time judging my own game:rolleyes:
biggest clue for me, is that the last time, shot-placement and technique are off the training-plan...and I'm mainly focusing on speed, accelerating and getting the attack...

On last thing, it's impossible to imagine the gaps there're between the A's and the pro's...
and then the pro's and the top-10-demigods...
It gives me goosebumps to see how chance less our nations #2 (Eric Pang) was against Lin Dan...
and then see Eric mop up another professional players at national level...just creepy...(it doesn't stop there, the guy he had beaten trounces other people in the A-division, some people who, in turn, hand my ass back to me...):o

[jhirata]

Maybe there should be more levels added to the so-called 'A-grade'.

Top-5 A's - People ranked from 1 to 5 according to BWF like Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei.

Ultimate A's - People ranked from 5 to 15 according the BWF, eg: Shoji Sato, Wong Choon Han, etc.

Then comes the Super A's as Master DinkALot has mentionned who are like the top national players but not quite as good as the Ultimate A's. BWF ranking from lets say, around 16 to 60 ? ( huge gap.. )

Then there's the A's who are also national players but not quite as good as the Super A's.. and so on..

Maybe I'll need some more corrections.

[coolhandluke]

Good enough to have some fans in the place I play but then again most of them haven't seen any pros play. :p

[Dreamzz]

Maybe there should be more levels added to the so-called 'A-grade'.

Top-5 A's - People ranked from 1 to 5 according to BWF like Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei.

Ultimate A's - People ranked from 5 to 15 according the BWF, eg: Shoji Sato, Wong Choon Han, etc.

Then comes the Super A's as Master DinkALot has mentionned who are like the top national players but not quite as good as the Ultimate A's. BWF ranking from lets say, around 16 to 60 ? ( huge gap.. )

Then there's the A's who are also national players but not quite as good as the Super A's.. and so on..

Maybe I'll need some more corrections.

definitely needs some correction, ultimate should be at the very top, it's not ultimate if there's still something above it. maybe you should call those ranked 5 to 15 penultimate then ...

[Dreamzz]

let's see, my stats are :

smashes = E :o
drops = E :o
clears = E :o
drives = E :o
netplay = E :o
footwork = E :o
stamina = E :o
speed = E :o

racquet collection = B :):p

once i find a few more items i'm missing, plus add a few more old ti-10s, i'll upgrade this to a B+.

[wocdam]

could have been a C+/C player, but for my ruptured knee ligaments. well then, i can continue to fake my level to a beginner!!

[jerby]

Maybe there should be more levels added to the so-called 'A-grade'.

Top-5 A's - People ranked from 1 to 5 according to BWF like Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei.

Ultimate A's - People ranked from 5 to 15 according the BWF, eg: Shoji Sato, Wong Choon Han, etc.

Then comes the Super A's as Master DinkALot has mentionned who are like the top national players but not quite as good as the Ultimate A's. BWF ranking from lets say, around 16 to 60 ? ( huge gap.. )

Then there's the A's who are also national players but not quite as good as the Super A's.. and so on..

Maybe I'll need some more corrections.
trust me, even the world number 150 would kick ass in a regular A tournament.

In Holland, besides the regualr A tourny's we have a "satalite circuit" these tournaments gvie ranking point for the national ranking (and generally have a larger ammount of prizemoney, still no goldmine though)
Players the likes of Rune Massing, Saber Aafiff, Lester Oey, I doubt any of them breached the top 100 worldwide, but they're waaay above the best of the "normal" A's...

[bananakid]

How about "Banana Panda"?

Sorry, I couldn't resist. :p

LOL... let's use that one to keep things simple.:D
Everyone look out for team "Banana Panda" in the next North American tournament.:cool::D:D:D

Sir Dink, before tournament day, you got to let me know what kind of racket and tension you are using, so I will keep a few more of those same racket in my racket bag just in case you need a few more.:p

[Dreamzz]

LOL... let's use that one to keep things simple.:D
Everyone look out for team "Banana Panda" in the next North American tournament.:cool::D:D:D

Sir Dink, before tournament day, you got to let me know what kind of racket and tension you are using, so I will keep a few more of those same racket in my racket bag just in case you need a few more.:p

he's got more racquets than he has .... errmmmm .... just about anything else, except for shuttles perhaps. so i don't think you need to worry yourself too much in that department.

[Smichz]

From sir panda's view, C-/D+ then..=)

[DinkAlot]

trust me, even the world number 150 would kick ass in a regular A tournament.

Yep, agree wholeheartedly. For me, it's pointless to try to differentiate among the professional players.

Unless you are one, you are never going to get to that level to truly understand the differences.

And besides, this is a rating of BC players, not professionals. :p

[jhirata]

definitely needs some correction, ultimate should be at the very top, it's not ultimate if there's still something above it. maybe you should call those ranked 5 to 15 penultimate then ...
I knew it..
Whatever it is, you guys get my point, right ?
The 'Super A's' can also be classified into different levels.. :p

[Fengwei]

trust me, even the world number 150 would kick ass in a regular A tournament.

In Holland, besides the regualr A tourny's we have a "satalite circuit" these tournaments gvie ranking point for the national ranking (and generally have a larger ammount of prizemoney, still no goldmine though)
Players the likes of Rune Massing, Saber Aafiff, Lester Oey, I doubt any of them breached the top 100 worldwide, but they're waaay above the best of the "normal" A's...

Nope, neither breached the Top-100. Massing is ranked 125, so pretty close and Lester (I like him :p He's a great player, and very friendly) is ranked 197. However, they are defintely way above A level.

Jerby, I thought you also play Satellite Circuit? You're goooood :cool:.

[BethuneGuy]

The levels are different in every country. A high level B player in Indonesia can come to Canada and become god (well, not god, but a mid level A player). So in conclusion, it's relative.

[NoName1225]

c-/d+ player
sometimes i'm a Z player
DBZ SUPER SAIYAN POWER

[CUTTER]

from the chart, i would say im a B-

[mark1020804]

I've been playing for 4 months, an dI'm about c-, pretty good eh?

[ctjcad]

Im quite interested in knowing what level of play most of the people here at BC play at. The grades go from A ( best ) to E ( just social players ).

Most intermediates would be categorised in C - D grade. A grades and B grades are the advanced players, where A would include all the professional players and some top national-level players. B-grade players are somewhere in between intermediates and A-grade players.

Be honest about this please.. :P.. I dont expect everyone to be A-grades :p

I'd also like to have a poll attached to this thread, thanks.
..also here, below;):

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32006
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40708
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22290

[Canuck19_14]

I'd have to say I'm a C-/D+ :p Maybe a little bit better.. so around C? o.o

[Kc_uk]

c-/d+ player
sometimes i'm a Z player
DBZ SUPER SAIYAN POWER

Badminton player A: What's his power level?

Badminton player B: Its over 9000!!!!!!

Badminton player A: What? 9000?



:D Sorry i couldn't resist.

[Shifty]

the hard part is, if C player plays an A player, he can be made to look D or worse. all this stuff about consistency is really vague. sure, i can hit consistently against some players. does that mean i'm A? heck no. because against better players, who are playing at much faster pace, more deceptive, more accurate shots, i will play inconsistently. simply because i'm being put under pressure. so while a C player can play consistently against their own class, they'll struggle to get even 10% of shots back against A players.

not only this, A is too large a group. jhirata will know that ethan haggo (one of the top juniors) is definitely an A level player in NZ. he's got solid consistency, and very good shots, technique and footwork. but when he played Biao Chai of China (note, Biao is a doubles player) last year, he got something like 21-7, 21-4. and Biao Chai is maybe an A- level junior in singles in china. so where does that put A players in NZ? they'd become D level players in China.

[jhirata]

I've been playing for 4 months, an dI'm about c-, pretty good eh?
Yeah that's good. How often do you play a week ? :)

[Ton-Min-Bad]

Let's say it this way, Lin Dan doesn't dare play against me...lol

[DivingBirdie]

Dinkalot has made a great guideline...but i'd like to add some points...

I think another important factor separating the As from the Bs and Cs is tournament experience, rather than type of shots that can be peformed consistently. 75%-85% consistent shots is actually pretty bad...and many people would find that they're above B-. :D

I personally think all competitive players should execute at least 90% of shots consistently...(but that'll depend on whether u consider some crazy backhands/jumpsmashes as part of the 100%)

[DinkAlot]

Birdie: I should have been more clear in my guideline, I meant hitting the shots consistently during a match playing similar level players, under pressure. Not just standing there, having a person feed you birds.



Dinkalot has made a great guideline...but i'd like to add some points...

I think another important factor separating the As from the Bs and Cs is tournament experience, rather than type of shots that can be peformed consistently. 75%-85% consistent shots is actually pretty bad...and many people would find that they're above B-. :D

I personally think all competitive players should execute at least 90% of shots consistently...(but that'll depend on whether u consider some crazy backhands/jumpsmashes as part of the 100%)

[Smichz]

The levels are different in every country. A high level B player in Indonesia can come to Canada and become god (well, not god, but a mid level A player). So in conclusion, it's relative.

I agree with this guy.A B player in canada,or somewhere else maybe is only around C,or even D in indonesia,malaysia,china..No definite standard..
But i do believe that most ppl in BC would be around C-D at least.Come on,u guys spend some amount of time for badminton everyday..;)

I hope that someday we can gather n play together..more like annual BC championships..held around the globe.Dream on!!:D

[DivingBirdie]

Birdie: I should have been more clear in my guideline, I meant hitting the shots consistently during a match playing similar level players, under pressure. Not just standing there, having a person feed you birds.

hmmm but then again real-match situations can be so different, and it'd become a question of 'how much pressure is under pressure', don't ya think?:p but well that's why it's called a guideline:D

anyway i think BCers should quit being shy and post more videos of yourselves playing!!! that's the best way if we want to do a BCer rating:cool:

[DinkAlot]

anyway i think BCers should quit being shy and post more videos of yourselves playing!!! that's the best way if we want to do a BCer rating:cool:


The most important thing to remember, this is not a competition of who's the highest level. The most important aspect should be are you enjoying badminton?

Anyone at any level can have fun playing the badminton. If a Beginner - Beginner has more fun playing badminton than the Super A, then the Beginner is the winner! :D...:p

[Smichz]

The most important thing to remember, this is not a competition of who's the highest level. The most important aspect should be are you enjoying badminton?

Anyone at any level can have fun playing the badminton. If a Beginner - Beginner has more fun playing badminton than the Super A, then the Beginner is the winner! :D...:p

Well said,panda..;)

[Athelete1234]

According to Dink, I'm about C+ ~ B-. I've got the strokes, moderate consistency, still need to touch up in some major areas. But what the heck, I don't care; I've got a life ahead of me to improve, I'm having lots of fun, and I'm always getting better.

[skunklover]

well...come to think about it, it really is relative.......example: i saw a video of the arizona state highschool badmiinton champion...the thing is, half of our JV could beat her.....she could be considered "c level" in her state...but here, she would be "D"...

[DinkAlot]

Maybe there should be more levels added to the so-called 'A-grade'.

After yesterday's firsthand experience, I'll have to agree that there's a significant difference, especially between active pros and retired pros.

Yesterday I played against Howard Bach at SGVBC. As expected, Howard is awesome. What wasn't expected was I hit some very good shots (at least I thought they were very good) and Howard was able to return them for winners that didn't seem humanly possible...well, now I know they are (possible :p).

For instance, I hit a few serves that were near perfect. Howard was able to attack the shuttle even though it was just below (or level with) the net. Same thing on a few drives. This means he has to be uber flexible, fast and strong (legs) to get down that low to be under the shuttle. The retired pros I have played cannot do this, at least not hit an outright winner, they would need an extra shot or two to set-up and win the point but usually under those circumstance, would lift because I hit a near perfect serve. :p

Also, the active pro is noticeably faster (which makes sense, they are active, training and playing competitively) while the retired pros, still much faster than panda, are half to a step to a step or so slower than the active ones. The difference is quite eye opening.

Please note, I mean absolutely no offense to the retired pros, they are awesome. I'm just giving a panda's eye view of what I have experienced and I hope it helped. :)

[jerby]

Nope, neither breached the Top-100. Massing is ranked 125, so pretty close and Lester (I like him :p He's a great player, and very friendly) is ranked 197. However, they are defintely way above A level.

Jerby, I thought you also play Satellite Circuit? You're goooood :cool:.
Lester will probably rise a lot the coming years... he seems very friendly (never talked to him, though Massing is a great guy)
We also shouldn't forget Koen Ridder, he breached the top 100 last years, but dropped a lot after his shoulder injury....

I play satalites and A tourny's when I can... But I like to keep it quiet;)
I'm nowhere close to reaching a finale:p but when I grow and become a big boy....:p:o

Dinky,
playing with Howard must be great... How hard does he smash?:p (and..does he return yours? ;))

[DinkAlot]

Dinky,
playing with Howard must be great... How hard does he smash?:p (and..does he return yours? ;))

Playing Howard was an honor. The guy is just awesome. Afterwards we went to eat. He's cool, laid back and an all-around nice guy.

Yes, he smashes very hard. I did return 8 of his 10 smashes but I couldn't do much with them. I just blocked most them. If Tony was up front, it would have been ugly for me. :p The two I missed, man, they were powerful and tons of angle. Even if I did manage to put the racket on the shuttle, the next shot would be a put away for sure.

I actually didn't smash at Howard, he didn't really lift to me. I did get a half court lift and I dropped and got him; it was quite fun. When I did get lifts I hit it at his partner...was trying to win that game. We lost 13-15. Was so fun! Panda wants more. :D

[jerby]

I know that feeling ;)
though not against a world-champion...:p

wait...13-15? what kind of scoring is that? :o:p

[DinkAlot]

I know that feeling ;)
though not against a world-champion...:p

wait...13-15? what kind of scoring is that? :o:p

OSS Sir. Our strategy was to try and tire out Howard's partner. It didn't qutie work, we needed one more game. :p

[Fan888]

Envy, envy, envy!!! :crying::crying::crying:

DinkAlot, thanks for the excellent writeup of your personal experience and observation. Here is a question that is debated in every sport: Is today's pros better than yesterday's pros?

You talked about speed different which is understandable, but the ability to attack a shot is bit surprising. Is it because of skills? Training? Conditioning? Or what?

Furthermore, I watched some older video (from early 90's), the game seemed to be a bit slower than today's. Is it because of the athletics, the equipment, or just my imagination? :):D

Since you have played against the retired pros as well as the active pros, what is your thoughts?

[cooler]

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33184&highlight=elite
panda ranking is very similar to mine.

I focus mostly on results. It is inaccurate to give level rating base only on stroke skills as stamina, power, speed, tactical smartness are equally (if not more) important than just stroke skills.

[DinkAlot]

I focus mostly on results. It is inaccurate to give level rating base only on stroke skills as stamina, power, speed, tactical smartness are equally (if not more) important than just stroke skills.

Agree wholeheartedly when trying to split hairs among players of the same level.

I know some players that have their own unique, weird styles but they just win. Then I know some others with text book footwork and shots but just can never win.

So it's all relative. :p

[DinkAlot]

Envy, envy, envy!!! :crying::crying::crying:

DinkAlot, thanks for the excellent writeup of your personal experience and observation. Here is a question that is debated in every sport: Is today's pros better than yesterday's pros?

You talked about speed different which is understandable, but the ability to attack a shot is bit surprising. Is it because of skills? Training? Conditioning? Or what?

Furthermore, I watched some older video (from early 90's), the game seemed to be a bit slower than today's. Is it because of the athletics, the equipment, or just my imagination? :):D

Since you have played against the retired pros as well as the active pros, what is your thoughts?


No offense to the pros of the old but I feel the Pros today are better simply because of speed and power. This is partly also due to the equipment improvements. You can have all the skill and technique in the world but if you cannot get to the shuttle in time, you cannot hit a good shot.

Even the ex-pros I talked to admit the top players today would beat the ones of the past. They said the key is speed and power.

As for me playing them, the results are the same, Panda loses.:p The current Pros out speed and power me and the old Pros out skill me. OK...and out speed and power me as well...but HEY, who's counting. I lose anyway you look at it.

But I have so much fun doing it. :D

[drifit]

No offense to the pros of the old but I feel the Pros today are better simply because of speed and power. This is partly also due to the equipment improvements. You can have all the skill and technique in the world but if you cannot get to the shuttle in time, you cannot hit a good shot.

Even the ex-pros I talked to admit the top players today would beat the ones of the past. They said the key is speed and power.

As for me playing them, the results are the same, Panda loses.:p The current Pros out speed and power me and the old Pros out skill me. OK...and out speed and power me as well...but HEY, who's counting. I lose anyway you look at it.

But I have so much fun doing it. :D

yesteryears, different type of trainings, tactics.......
nowadays, different type of training & tactics from 10 years back.
skill and technique are necessary basics.
Panda definitely, 100%, for sure, will win the "Most Rackets Breakage" awards.........:p
#at least Panda, did give opponent(pro) a run before lose.....;)

[mark1020804]

I can return all smashes beyond the short serve line

[ctjcad]

OSS Sir. Our strategy was to try and tire out Howard's partner. It didn't qutie work, we needed one more game. :p
..Howard's partner wasn't our.......................Polar Bear (Vtec101), was it??..:confused: ;)
Btw, cool review there, Dan!:):cool:

[DinkAlot]

..Howard's partner wasn't our.......................Polar Bear (Vtect101), was it??..:confused: ;)
Btw, cool review there, Dan!:):cool:


Yes, none other than VTec101, our illustrious OC Polar Bear. :D

...maybe next week, we'll try for another match:

Panda and Joseph (or Chris/Ba/Coach Don)
vs.
Howard and Raymond

Loser buys winner dinner. Of course Panda's gonna lose...but the catch is, Tommy's actually gonna buy. He just wants to see Panda get run and he's willing to pay good money to see this. :p

And Panda always welcomes a free dinner. :D

[DivingBirdie]

How i wish i could just teleport to USA and play with you all....:(



I can return all smashes beyond the short serve line

By using ping pong defence mentioned here? http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40434&page=6
care to elaborate?:p

[Xseraph]

From DinkAlot's guidelines I would place myself around D+/D, which I don't think is too bad for having started playing seriously about a year ago :)... Still a long way to go though :eek:

[aerotus70]

Badminton player A: What's his power level?

Badminton player B: Its over 9000!!!!!!

Badminton player A: What? 9000?



:D Sorry i couldn't resist.

LOL:D :D:D

anyway from sir Dinkalot chart i rate myself Advanced Beginner

[cooler]

According to Sir Dink's chart... then I belong in the "B for banana" category

Footwork/speed = like slippery, flying and gliding on banana peels
technique = kid stuff
deception = yellow outside but white inside:p
anticipation/game-reading = can read at A,B,C,D level, i mean the alphabets LOL
handling critical situation(pressure) = squishy under pressure
power = mushy:crying:

..........................

[bananakid]

Original posted by bananakid... edited by cooler

According to Sir Dink's chart... then I belong in the "B for banana" category

Footwork/speed = like slippery, flying and gliding on banana peels
technique = kid stuff
deception = yellow outside but white inside:p
anticipation/game-reading = can read at A,B,C,D level, i mean the alphabets LOL
handling critical situation(pressure) = squishy under pressure
power = mushy:crying:
..........................

Hey... you know you are really asking for a butt kicking in badminton with the above.:p

[jhirata]

Maybe if I have banana shoes, I can be B-grade..

[Fengwei]

I'm a C on shot consistency, and a C+ when it comes down to power and speed. Still in full training though, so climbing the ladder step by step. Hopefully it'll be a large step when I come back from China this summer. Planning to follow lots of training sessions and learn a lot then.

[chocoXmoose]

i want to say n for ninja

[jhirata]

i want to say n for ninja
That doesn't make sense..
Don't be silly :p There's no such thing as N-grade.
There's only A-D.. and E-grade at some clubs..

[chocoXmoose]

then i'd have to have my coach evaluate my grade

[bellyjeans]

Advanced Beginner here.

[jpazn23]

hmm interesting that no one tried to add another rank like "S" above "A". Like the "S" rank can include low ranked international players to the badminton gods like Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei. :p:D