Adult Nationals: someone there PLEASE update the scores...

[DinkAlot]

...as you know it, thanks so much! :D

[kwun]

here is the results from Friday:

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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3061/2389939066_bc54d6eedc_o.jpg

WS:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2386/2389939228_5532928a48_o.jpg

WS Cons:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2262/2389939320_c908deb2f6_o.jpg

MD:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2327/2389108783_57310f865e_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2129/2389939402_0f3aa4c78b_o.jpg

MD Cons:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3221/2389108981_c7a63653c2_o.jpg

WD:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2079/2389939824_5ba2681fbf_o.jpg

WD Cons:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3067/2389939730_534216276f_o.jpg

MXD:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2166/2389939890_26873e38d3_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2111/2389109323_6483c425b2_o.jpg

MXD Cons:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2039/2389109403_f2ac7d919a_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2334/2389109465_e88d6ef74b_o.jpg

[Oldhand]

Photography does have its uses :D
Saved you a lot of typing time, didn't it?

[BornReady]

Thanks for the scores.
Some surprises, no doubt...

[GGsally]

Yahhh!! See even with this kind of draw, upsets do happen! I cannot believe Lauren Todt lost her singles match:crying:! Whose the girl who beat her? I don't know if she's played in GG before.

And I'm REALLY upset :crying:that Mike Yang and Chris Hales lost their match to Jinadasa as well:confused::(:p! Poor Mike must be sooo tired from months of preparation and Chris with his sore back problem... Oh.. poor. But I hear they are playing their consolation now so I hope they will win that one!

Sally

[DinkAlot]

I cannot believe Lauren Todt lost her singles match:crying:! Whose the girl who beat her? I don't know if she's played in GG before.


Thuy Hoang from OCBC. Not sure if she's played at GGBC before but I think we'll remember her now. :p:D

[cooler]

Photography does have its uses :D
Saved you a lot of typing time, didn't it? it would had taken me longer to read the results from tournamentsoftware:D

[Fan888]

Thanks kwun (here and those great pictures).

Anyone has the result of the Howard vs. Arnold match which supposed to have played this morning. That is a good one. Game result plus any commentary (if any) would be great appreciated.

[Fan888]

Yahhh!! See even with this kind of draw, upsets do happen! I cannot believe Lauren Todt lost her singles match:crying:! Whose the girl who beat her? I don't know if she's played in GG before.

All that fuss for nothing. Some people are just being silly :)

Too bad to see Ms Lauren lost :crying:. I hope she wasn't on BC reading about people complaining about her draw and had that troubled her :mad:

But look at it from the brighter side, I hope this mean US badminton is getting stronger with more good young players :)

[monto]

Nothing against Gouw/Yeh, but surprising to see Bach losing in the XD first round!

[ricefield]

just got back from watching, ill briefly recount some of the matches i saw:


MS:
howard bach beat arnold setiadi pretty badly (straight sets, both around 21-10)

nick jinadasa beat chris hale (they split, but i dont remember the scores)

raju rai won fairly comfortably (straight sets, the scores were close, but i dont think raju was really exerting himself)

and Bob Malaythong won, but i didnt really watch that game

MD:

howard/bob owned pretty hard...

chandra/daniel had a very close win over howard/raju (extremely exciting/tense)
chandra/daniel lost the first set but won the second two sets win very close scores

MX:

didn't see a lot, except that arnold/daphne lost their match

[GGsally]

All that fuss for nothing. Some people are just being silly :)

Too bad to see Ms Lauren lost :crying:. I hope she wasn't on BC reading about people complaining about her draw and had that troubled her :mad:
But look at it from the brighter side, I hope this mean US badminton is getting stronger with more good young players :)

I don't know how to get those boxes of quotes from other comments then write under them! :(

I hope this finally exemplifies that draws do not conduct results. It's the players and how they play that do, as well as how they tackle their opponents. If draws are tougher, then it could be more challenging, what do you guys think? Haven't we seen this happen at several major competitions most notably Lin Dan at the last Olympics? As the favorite for Gold Medalist, he did lose in the first round, but that didn't mean he wasn't a superb athelete.

Ms. Lauren is a consummate professional. I've chatted with her a few times at her competes in GG and no matter win or lose, she always tries her best and has a great attitude. She loves to eat and chat about fashion just like us normal "D" players! :D

It's great to see how each tournament is important to them and they all give their best to WIN!

Sally

[GGsally]

Nothing against Gouw/Yeh, but surprising to see Bach losing in the XD first round!

Daniel trains so hard and diligently with Chandra at GGBC any chance he gets. He's really got the fire in him going! :eek: Good going for Dan and Yeh! Does he have to play against Chandra and Mona now?

Sally

[GGsally]

MD:

howard/bob owned pretty hard...

chandra/daniel had a very close win over howard/raju (extremely exciting/tense)
chandra/daniel lost the first set but won the second two sets win very close scores

Congrats to all the winners so far!! Oooo.. wish I was there!!! How exciting that Chandra and Daniel WON over Howard and Raju! They try SO hard. But how can Howard and Bob play, then Howard and Raju play Men's Doubles? I wonder if anyone video taped that game!! I will ask our staff!

Sally

[Rainofserenity]

I think he's talking about Howard Bach/ Bob... and the other would be. Howard Shu/ Raju. :D

[GGsally]

I think he's talking about Howard Bach/ Bob... and the other would be. Howard Shu/ Raju. :D

OHHHH...:rolleyes::confused: mee quite silly! Ha haa.. GG Home Tourney and I have no idea who's who.. Awful :cool::p. Thank you Rain! Still VERY TOUGH opponents right? ohhh.. they will really have to REST UP if they end up playing against Howard Bach and Bob then. Goodness!

Sally

[harimau]

Updated results Please ?

[BornReady]

I appreciate what Kwun did for us updating the scores, taking pictures, yesterday, etc... but, he is also exhausted, ...and.....with just a click of a button, the updates could have been uploaded if tournament software is used... and everyone in the world would have known the results instantly... Perhaps GG Management could please consider it next tournament at GGBC...:confused: Thank you for reading my post.

[GGsally]

Our apologies again and hope to obtain your understanding.

You know, we do care so much and everyone knows that you are recommending tournament software, and it's benefits, but please do understand, we must also respect what methods our Tournament Director Chris Lawrence, whom has so many years of experience conducting National events, decides to use. We cannot, and would not, disrespect his authority over this subject. I really recommend that you write to the USAB and maybe to Chris himself regarding your recommendation. GGBC invited Chris to be tournament director. We wouldn't be able to just read a manual and know how to conjure up a draw, so it's really not up to us and Mike always respects the decision of the people he chooses to work with.

As frustrated as you are, I do hope you can understand, how much work there is to do, including the banquet last night which 150 people attended until 10:30pm, and then clean up till 12am. We also don't have enough staff on hand for just one person to look after posting draws. Thank you for your patience and understanding. Now they are too busy with the finals cos there are people mountain, people sea there today to watch!

Sally

[GGsally]

Sorry Born.. I got 3 folders full of draws which our own staff took 3 or 4 times to try to get it, but I tried ask my assistant if she can zoom it to place online but when I zoomed close up it was SOOO BLURRY so it's impossible. That was the best our digi cameras and ablities could do. We need to wait for Kwun's expert photo lenses. Please be patient! Thank you!

Sally

[DinkAlot]

Sorry Born.. I got 3 folders full of draws which our own staff took 3 or 4 times to try to get it, but I tried ask my assistant if she can zoom it to place online but when I zoomed close up it was SOOO BLURRY so it's impossible. That was the best our digi cameras and ablities could do. We need to wait for Kwun's expert photo lenses. Please be patient! Thank you!

Sally


Dear Sally,

A suggestion on taking pictures of the draw/results:

1) Mount the camera to a tripod
2) Set the f-stop to the maximum usually around f8-f24
3) Get a piece of small black tape and stick it to the center of each paper (since the paper is white, tape black = good contrast and the camera will focus on the tape)
4) Focus on the piece of tape and take the picture

Ta-da! You now have clear photos of the draw/results. :D

[BornReady]

...everyone knows that you are recommending tournament software, and it's benefits...
Sally

Hi Sally,

Athough we know that tournament software could provide the instant results and scores on the net that we are all expecting; I must say that it is not the only method. Since we couldn't be there, we are just too anxious to know the results. We appreciate that GGBC is hosting the tournament and the hard work you and your staff put in. Believe me, I know.

Please don't take this the wrong way, again, we are just too anxious to know the results and hope that in the next tournaments at GGBC, the results could be posted momentarily without making it too diffucult on Kwun or anyone else.

USAB provides the guidelines in running the tournament and would not dictate what method to use, I understand that the implementations would be up to the club. It is just our wish... if it could be done it would be great, if not than we just have to wait longer for to the results.

[GGsally]

Hi Sally,

Athough we know that tournament software could provide the instant results and scores on the net that we are all expecting; I must say that it is not the only method. Since we couldn't be there, we are just too anxious to know the results. We appreciate that GGBC is hosting the tournament and the hard work you and your staff put in. Believe me, I know.

Please don't take this the wrong way, again, we are just too anxious to know the results and hope that in the next tournaments at GGBC, the results could be posted momentarily without making it too diffucult on Kwun or anyone else.

USAB provides the guidelines in running the tournament and would not dictate what method to use, I understand that the implementations would be up to the club. It is just our wish... if it could be done it would be great, if not than we just have to wait longer for to the results.

I know how you feel Born.. ha ha :p.. I'm just as anxious as you are! Even I got the phone and talking to the staff many times, I keep asking who won, who this, who that, and no one can tell me, cos they keep working and have no clue! I had asked on the first day, did Mike win?, they said..yah.. I think so...cos he gets to play tommorow again. Then it was only when Kwun posted that I knew he lost :o and was playing in consolation, but I knew he kept playing cos I can never find him, so I haven't found out if he won consolation with Chris Hales today yet! I'm afraid to call cos everytime I do.. they tell me their busy..busy.. can't talk :mad:! And no one call me :(. So I don't know what to do:(. Dink's suggestion is good but I don't know how to explain that over the phone since I'm further than you guys in Hong Kong:crying::confused:! Like I said, none of our staff have the equipment nor the camera sevvy:o! Our Staff in Toronto wanted to just type out the results here by hand, but it was so blurry we couldn't see anything.. :cool::mad:. AIya.. so frustrating :confused:. What to do, us poor souls here:confused::(?!

The only thing I managed to get from Mike was that he heard Chandra and Dan got into the finals so that means they could probably play against Howard and Bob and what a tough battle that would be. I said OH GOODIE that means they have a chance to WIN! Mike said.. uh........
and Mona and Chandra against Dan and Yeh in the Mixed doubles, I THINK cos he mumbled oh all GG players in mixed doubles. And Lily lost to Johanna in a pretty disappointing match for Lily I think. So... I'm not sure how accurate that is:(!

So hope we get something more accurate soon! :D

Sally

[DinkAlot]

Dink's suggestion is good but I don't know how to explain that over the phone since I'm further than you guys in Hong Kong:crying::confused:! Like I said, none of our staff have the equipment nor the camera sevvy:o!


Hi Sally, my suggestion is actually very simple. Just have the staff talk to anyone who knows even a tiny bit about photography, they will know.

Or just have Kwun take pictures of the results first and post them. I feel the results are more important than the actual action shots. Thanks. :)

[kwun]

apologies again. today was another tiring day. but also very strange one. in the middle of the day, both our on-site displays died. the big GGBC plasma TV lost power along with our laptop that has real time photo update. (more on that cool setup a bit later!)

and then my desktop power cycled itself and the video card refused to work. so as a result, i was unable to process any photos for the rest of the day.

after the end of the matches and a quick lunch i came home, then i found myself asleep on the living room floor!

i am going to try resurrect my computer and see if i can post today's picture. stay tuned.

[govalley]

Unconfirmed results:

WD-johanna lee - mona santoso beat jaime shubandi - kuei ya chen
MD-bob malathong - howard bach beat chandra -daniel gow (spelling?)
WS - johanna lee beat kuei ya chen
MS - raju rai beat howard bach
MX - mona santoso - chandra beat daniel gow -rulien (or rulan) yeh

[DinkAlot]

Thanks much Valley!

[GGManagement]

Dear BC friends,

Our apologies again for not being able to post the results sooner. As you can see from one of the draws pictures I attach below, the original pictures we have are too small, but when we tried to enlarge them, they became too blurry to see at all, even when we set the resolution the the highest it can be. We are sorry about this and will try our best to get these posted as soon as possible. We understand perfectly how anxious you all are to know the results, and believe us we are as anxious to update you with the results! Sorry again, and thank you very much for your patience and understanding!

Sincerely, GG Management!

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Photo of original size

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Enlarged photo

[GGsally]

Hi Sally, my suggestion is actually very simple. Just have the staff talk to anyone who knows even a tiny bit about photography, they will know.

Or just have Kwun take pictures of the results first and post them. I feel the results are more important than the actual action shots. Thanks. :)

Ha ha.. You think I haven't tried? :rolleyes::o:( I've tried everything! I'm 16 hours AHEAD time difference here and I've stayed up all night trying. You see me posting frantically all hours. I ask them to photograph, then the girl I ask is working at G2 that day, told me she asked Kwun for the draws and he said he would send them to her that night, but she never got it, but I said if he can send to her, he can post here. He must be so tired cos you have to post page by page on here it does take some time. The photos he probably can load in one go and just provide a link here to it is much easier. Then I ask the staff to recruit this guy who volunteers to take photos at smaller gg tourneys. It was only 6:30am there, so we couldn't find him. I WAIT :confused:. Then the first batch was so far away cos he took all the draws together :cool:! Then I called to gasp :crying: and instructed he take just 1 page at a time! Then it came back again 2 hours later, page by page, but no can see:crying:! All BLURRY! I show you guys! By then it was 2am here, 11am there, and I said, take again, and no word by 4am here, 1pm there, so I passed out :p. Then I woke up at 5:30am, called again, and she said.. uh.. he said that's the best camera they have and the closest he could do :cool:. THE END:(.

We wait for Kwun:confused:.. Very sorry couldn't pull it off for us! :(

Sally

[Hall0]

Thanks for the updates.. Re: blurry photos, most digital camera these days has macro mode. This macro mode is useful to take picture at close range, such as taking a flower in bloom picture. Next time, when you need to take a picture in close range, such as a beautiful flower, or match draw, find a flower picture in your camera, and enable it :). It'll certainly helps your picture quality.
Thanks again!

[kwun]

so here they are, the results of the 2008 US Adult National Championships.

when we left, there are still a couple of Cons finals being played. so their results are not here.

Mixed doubles

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3230/2395296466_5466271e8b_o.jpg

Mixed Cons:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/2394461037_a3f128f53a_o.jpg

Mens Singles

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2070/2394462391_19af5c1a92_o.jpg

MS Cons:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/2395297912_1e07e4ea2e_o.jpg

WS:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2280/2394463199_583b72d2eb_o.jpg

WS Cons:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2099/2394462927_e8088dea51_o.jpg

MD:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2394462189_346efe2d6a_o.jpg

MD Cons:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3119/2395297132_cbaee35134_o.jpg

WD:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/2394461459_49696cbe6f_o.jpg

WD Cons:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2005/2394461767_1c2ecfe762_o.jpg

[No Backhand]

Thanks to everyone for posting the results via photographs etc. I think most of us do appreciate the tremendous amount of organizing and work that goes into running a tournament, but this is the National tournament for our sport. It is sort of embarrasing that the only place to get results is by looking at photographs of handwritten draws that are laid out with spreadsheet software. Personal preferences aside, Tournament Software seems to be the industry standard and should be required for our tournaments of National scope. My problem with situations like this is that it makes badminton in America seem unprofessional and holds all of us back when trying to advance the sport here.

[GGsally]

Thanks to everyone for posting the results via photographs etc. I think most of us do appreciate the tremendous amount of organizing and work that goes into running a tournament, but this is the National tournament for our sport. It is sort of embarrasing that the only place to get results is by looking at photographs of handwritten draws that are laid out with spreadsheet software. Personal preferences aside, Tournament Software seems to be the industry standard and should be required for our tournaments of National scope. My problem with situations like this is that it makes badminton in America seem unprofessional and holds all of us back when trying to advance the sport here.


I ask you to please look at the immensity of what has been done here instead of concentrate on a minor issue which can be ressurected in it's due time. It is vitally important to focus on the macro issue rather than such a minor blip. The Adult Nationals quality of prestige has been lifted very much higher, the interest in Badminton is substantially raised in the Bay Area and hopefully for USA, just based on the amount of Media coverage /attention, sponsorship and recognition that has been generated this time, which took more than 6 months of meticulous planning, mad marketing, and much dedication from Mike, Chris and the GG team. South West Airlines approached Mike to sponsor. UCB gave their FULL support once again. That should mean much more to Badminton than the asthetics of the draws and results. Chris flew to GGBC 3 times before April 4th, from Indianapolis just to have meetings in person with Mike, train the umpires, and make final preparations. I am saying this very objectively and not as part of the gg family. You can't know unless you are part of the process.

To say the event is an embarrassment, displays "UNprofessionalism", hindering the advancement of our sport, just because we didn't post the draws and results on time or in the fashion you'd like, seems to be missing the HOLY BIG picture and benefits to badminton going forward in my opinion! That's like what's happening in Beijing now. They are trying so hard for the last 8 years to get ready and there's all sorts of unrest, namely Tibet and America's criticism of situation in Tibet, and even boycotting from Steven Spielberg for ignoring the situation in Dafur :confused:, trying to take focus away from the significance and spirit of the games being held there not to mention the boost in economy during the games. I guess if some people want to "pick", they will. But it should be thought out a little more. I hope I haven't offended you and I apologise if I do.

Sally

[LazyBuddy]

Thanks to everyone for posting the results via photographs etc. I think most of us do appreciate the tremendous amount of organizing and work that goes into running a tournament, but this is the National tournament for our sport. It is sort of embarrasing that the only place to get results is by looking at photographs of handwritten draws that are laid out with spreadsheet software. Personal preferences aside, Tournament Software seems to be the industry standard and should be required for our tournaments of National scope. My problem with situations like this is that it makes badminton in America seem unprofessional and holds all of us back when trying to advance the sport here.

I think you make the issue to be way too serious than it suppose to be. Yes, there's always a way for improvement, but saying it's holds back of the sport, I don't agree.

To promote this sport to the national level, it takes effort and experience. Now, it's the time to summerize the whole event, but not picking on the short comings only. Using a piece of dirt, to summerize the event to be "embarrasment" is totally not accpetable to me. :cool:

Many of the local / regional (at least, in US East) tournaments have to be played in HS/college gyms, with taped court, with ppl running around with microphones, with paper and pencil, with only a few hundred dollars award given to the winners. All such only shows the sports is growing, but we are still lacking the financial support. I won't call any of the above tournament to be "embarrasing", and I play hard (and helped to managed a few) during my days.

All such and such, only to set a further (and higher) goals for us, to promote this sport. However, simply using a game draw format to evaluate a big event, is nowhere neart to be acceptable. :cool:

[BornReady]

...It is sort of embarrasing that the only place to get results is by looking at photographs of handwritten draws...

I disagree with this statement; rather this is one step further in badminton future in the US. So long as we all are willing to learn from the experience, listen to all sides, weight in the pros and cons, and try to improve even just a bit the next time around. (We have already beaten the horse to death regarding having timely results update.)

The tournament itself is a success. I was actually impressed by the increasing number of sponsors willing to give badminton money nowadays. It will only get better.

[Vtec101]

I do not agree that not getting the scores updated immediately has set the sport back. I was at the tournament and this was run very well for their 1st time. As for using Tournament Software, it has been used in the past 3 years, and I agree it would be beneficial to use to keep people not attending the events informed. Whether the club uses it or not is still up to them, but I would advise on getting the program for future events. This is the 1st year for GG and if this is the only blotch of the whole tourney, I think it was a success.

[kwun]

I do not agree that not getting the scores updated immediately has set the sport back. I was at the tournament and this was run very well for their 1st time. As for using Tournament Software, it has been used in the past 3 years, and I agree it would be beneficial to use to keep people not attending the events informed. Whether the club uses it or not is still up to them, but I would advise on getting the program for future events. This is the 1st year for GG and if this is the only blotch of the whole tourney, I think it was a success.

i agree. cannot fault the organization and execution of the whole tournament. i know that GGBC team worked OT to get this whole tournament together. it is fantastically run esp considering it is their first time.

Vtec101 didn't know you were there. i would've come and said "hi"!

[Vtec101]

Sorry i didn't say hi to you either. Everytime I saw you, you seemed so busy so I didn't want to bother you. You took so many great shots of all the action, I think you had more of a workout than the athletes!!

[ggeinstein]

Thanks to everyone for posting the results via photographs etc. I think most of us do appreciate the tremendous amount of organizing and work that goes into running a tournament, but this is the National tournament for our sport. It is sort of embarrasing that the only place to get results is by looking at photographs of handwritten draws that are laid out with spreadsheet software. Personal preferences aside, Tournament Software seems to be the industry standard and should be required for our tournaments of National scope. My problem with situations like this is that it makes badminton in America seem unprofessional and holds all of us back when trying to advance the sport here.

The fact that Mike could get the bid for US Adult Nationals to be HELD in the Bay Area for the first time in 21 years is a incredible feat in itself! Please don't overlook THAT very important fact for the Bay Area and US Badminton. If that's not advancing the sport or a great achievement, then I don't know what you think is.

[speedie_birdie]

The fact that Mike could get the bid for US Adult Nationals to be HELD in the Bay Area for the first time in 21 years is a incredible feat in itself! Please don't overlook THAT very important fact for the Bay Area and US Badminton. If that's not advancing the sport or a great achievement, then I don't know what you think is.

USAB likes to pick different places to hold the major tournaments. So it is not as big of a deal as so many people think that it was held here in the Bay Area. This was probably the first time that a club in the Bay Area has tried bidding for the tournament and since for the past umph years Adult Nationals has mostly been held at OCBC, the Bay Area definitely earned extra brownie points just from that. It's same with JN if anyone ever follows that. It's usually held for a few years at OCBC and then elsewhere and then back to OCBC for another few years...

[kwun]

here is the official results. i just receive this file from the tournament director, Chris Lawrence.

[kwun]

USAB likes to pick different places to hold the major tournaments. So it is not as big of a deal as so many people think that it was held here in the Bay Area. This was probably the first time that a club in the Bay Area has tried bidding for the tournament and since for the past umph years Adult Nationals has mostly been held at OCBC, the Bay Area definitely earned extra brownie points just from that. It's same with JN if anyone ever follows that. It's usually held for a few years at OCBC and then elsewhere and then back to OCBC for another few years...

we should still not discount the fact that it is not an easy feat to pull off such a complex tournament.

given the explosive growth of the sport here, i am looking forward to seeing other clubs, BBC, Bintang, Smashcity to host the Nationals in the future, that will be a treat for us fans.

[ctjcad]

USAB likes to pick different places to hold the major tournaments. So it is not as big of a deal as so many people think that it was held here in the Bay Area. This was probably the first time that a club in the Bay Area has tried bidding for the tournament and since for the past umph years Adult Nationals has mostly been held at OCBC, the Bay Area definitely earned extra brownie points just from that. It's same with JN if anyone ever follows that. It's usually held for a few years at OCBC and then elsewhere and then back to OCBC for another few years...

...

given the explosive growth of the sport here, i am looking forward to seeing other clubs, BBC, Bintang, Smashcity to host the Nationals in the future, that will be a treat for us fans.
..personally, i don't mind if they hold the U.S. Nationals, from now on, up in the bay area. Make it a bigger event up there, not just for the SoCal people to enjoy.:cool:
Of course, in order to have the U.S. Open up in the NorCal area, maybe one way is to reserve a bigger hall (e.g. the San Jose Convention Center?!):);)
In a way and in the mean time, that'll split up some badminton picture taking tasks also (kwun and his partner could do the U.S. Nationals and i can help out with the U.S. Opens).;)

[kwun]

..personally, i don't mind if they hold the U.S. Nationals, from now on, up in the bay area. Make it a bigger event up there, not just for the SoCal people to enjoy.:cool:
Of course, in order to have the U.S. Open up in the NorCal area, maybe one way is to reserve a bigger hall (e.g. the San Jose Convention Center?!):);)


SJ Convention Center? day dreaming again, Chris? ;)

partly why the Nationals is possible is that GGBC is pretty much providing the venue for the event, for FREE, or if any, at a very low cost. the cost for doing it in SJCC will be much higher. i believe similarly for OCBC.

with the players involved, there isn't any big enough stars to attract audience for such a arrangement to be plausible. we need our own LD or TH, then maybe we will start talking about SJCC...



In a way and in the mean time, that'll split up some badminton picture taking tasks also (kwun and his partner could do the U.S. Nationals and i can help out with the U.S. Opens).;)

haha. yes. well, if i manage to get some time off and someone willing to offer me a place to stay down in OCBC, i wouldn't mind going down to do some US Open photos either. but at this point, i am not sure if that can be possible yet.

[ctjcad]

SJ Convention Center? day dreaming again, Chris? ;)

partly why the Nationals is possible is that GGBC is pretty much providing the venue for the event, for FREE, or if any, at a very low cost. the cost for doing it in SJCC will be much higher. i believe similarly for OCBC.

with the players involved, there isn't any big enough stars to attract audience for such a arrangement to be plausible. we need our own LD or TH, then maybe we will start talking about SJCC...
..i day dream everyday, kwun. 24-7...:o ;)
No, actually i was referring to the U.S. Open. And in order to do so, you guys need a bigger, "BWF-acceptable" venue to hold it. Heck, if they can hold a car show in there, why not a baddy event??..;) And i'm sure it's possible to get one.
Plus the badminton community up north is much more bigger than in SoCal.:cool:

haha. yes. well, if i manage to get some time off and someone willing to offer me a place to stay down in OCBC, i wouldn't mind going down to do some US Open photos either. but at this point, i am not sure if that can be possible yet.
..well, since you won't have time to travel down here, how about pitching in the idea of holding the U.S. Open up north??..Heck, hold both events up there. That way, i won't have to go out and tire myself with taking so much baddy pics...:p ;)