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The Star Online > Sports
Wednesday April 9, 2008
Olympics: Hefty rewards for Malaysian medal winner in Beijing
PUTRAJAYA: A Malaysian medal winner in the Beijing Olympics this August is set to be rewarded handsomely.
Besides a rise in the amount provided under the Olympic incentive scheme, the Malaysian medallist can look forward to getting a monthly salary on top of the allowance scheme he is already getting from the National Sports Council (NSC).
Top priority: Sports Minister Datuk Ismail Sabri Yaakob will meet Tan Boon Heong (left) and Koo Kien Keat next month.
Youth and Sports Minister Datuk Ismail Sabri Yaakob announced this after chairing his first Olympic steering committee meeting at Putrajaya yesterday.
Others who attended the meeting were NSC director general Datuk Zolkples Embong, National Sports Institute director general Datuk Dr Ramlan Aziz and Datuk Ho Koh Chye, the chef-de-mission of the contingent to the Beijing Games.
The Olympic steering committee also agreed to propose that the monthly pension scheme for Malaysian medallists in the Olympics be raised accordingly.
The pension scheme that takes effect after the athlete retires currently awards RM3,500 for a gold, RM1,500 for a silver and RM1,000 for a bronze.
Under the current NSC incentive scheme, an Olympic gold is worth RM160,000 while it is RM80,000 for a silver and RM40,000 for a bronze.
But the revised scheme to be proposed could see the Malaysian who wins an Olympic medal getting a much higher sum than the current amount.
“The steering committee have agreed to raise the current incentive scheme for the Olympic medallists. It is too low compared to what some countries are giving and we will also revise the pension scheme.
“We also agreed to a proposal to give a salary to the Malaysian who delivers an Olympic medal. We want to recognise the efforts of the athlete and we also hope future athletes will be inspired to strive for similar success.
“We want them to see there is a future in sports,” said Ismail, adding that the proposals would be recommended to the Cabinet Committee of Sports chaired by Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak.
While Ismail did not reveal the amount of monthly salary to be given, an Olympic medallist should be expecting a reasonable amount considering that an athlete who qualifies for the Olympics currently gets an extra monthly allowance of RM1,000 until August.
As an example, diver Bryan Nickson has been receiving an additional RM1,000 since he made the cut from the World Championships in March last year.
There is also a RM5,000 incentive for any Malaysian athlete who qualifies for the Beijing Olympics.
“The NSC have been allocated a budget of RM9mil towards the preparations of athletes involved in the Olympic qualification campaign,” said Ismail.
Badminton is still seen as the country’s best bet of winning an Olympic medal but archery and cycling also stand an outside chance to surprise.
“Only badminton has provided us with medals in the Olympics and they are our main hope.
“Archery has improved and we are currently ranked seventh in the world. We have not set any target but anything can happen in the sport,” said Ismail, adding that a medal earned in Beijing would be a success after finishing empty-handed in Sydney (2000) and Athens (2004).
Malaysia have won medals from badminton through Cheah Soon Kit-Yap Kim Hock (silver) and Rashid Sidek (bronze) in Atlanta in 1996 and Razif-Jalani Sidek (bronze) in Barcelona in 1992.
For Ismail, he will be meeting the Beijing-bound athletes face to face next month – starting with the badminton men’s doubles pair of Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong who have been struggling with their game of late.
Dreamzz
04-09-2008, 05:23 AM
so, there goes the million ringgit dream?
hard to see them boosting it up from 160k to 1m now ...
Smichz
04-09-2008, 10:35 AM
The biggest hope i believe is from LCW n KKK/TBH..
Dreamzz
04-09-2008, 10:38 AM
at the moment, i've got more faith in LCW than i do in KKK/TBH. in fact, i think CTF/LWW have a better shot at it than they do, and possibly a better seeding as well.
pramana
04-11-2008, 03:46 PM
Problem is there is none of MAS players in the top of the crowds. LCW had always lost to LD, while men-double is almost coin-toss.
Ladies..., hmm...
Mixed.... ehm...
Dato A
04-12-2008, 03:24 AM
Rewards Doesnt Guaranteed Results.
george@chongwei
04-13-2008, 01:22 AM
Money cant buy everything:):)
Money cant buy everything:):)
But they can motivate you to play better and go for a win! :)
Dreamzz
04-13-2008, 07:34 AM
Money cant buy everything:):)
that's true, but it'll be loads of fun trying .... :p
Pemuda
04-13-2008, 08:17 PM
But they can motivate you to play better and go for a win! :)
If money is the solution, Brunei would have a couple of Olympic gold medals in their cabinet by now.
Pemuda
04-13-2008, 08:18 PM
Money cant buy everything:):)
I totally agree with you.
cooler
04-13-2008, 08:28 PM
if i'm a MAL athlete, i would prefer it if they announce such incentive 12 months before, and not ~4 mths before the OG.
Pemuda
04-13-2008, 09:16 PM
This is what Malaysia Boleh is all about. We dont plan, we just do ad hoc. ;)
Anyway, whether 12 months or even 5 years ahead, we aint gonna win a gold in Beijing.
If money is the solution, Brunei would have a couple of Olympic gold medals in their cabinet by now.
As far as badminton goes, Brunei's standards are no way near Malaysia's. So, although money can motivate them to play better, they are still far short.
Malaysia's badminton tradition is well known and quite entrenched and she can match the other world top class players at least in the men's department. You need to motivate them with the right rewards to make them shine above themselves and that's when they can cause upsets.
That's when they can surprise with an Olympic gold! :):):)
Pemuda
04-14-2008, 02:36 AM
As far as badminton goes, Brunei's standards are no way near Malaysia's. So, although money can motivate them to play better, they are still far short.
Malaysia's badminton tradition is well known and quite entrenched and she can match the other world top class players at least in the men's department. You need to motivate them with the right rewards to make them shine above themselves and that's when they can cause upsets.
That's when they can surprise with an Olympic gold! :):):)
Money cant buy you success.
The money have always been good in Msian badminton. The Msian government have been injecting cash every year for the game. As far as rewards are concerned, the financial gains are more than decent. For example, when Msia won the Thomas Cup in 92, the shuttlers were given prime land which made them overnight millionaires.
Infact, I would say for all the money the government have been pouring into badminton in Malaysia, the returns are pretty miserable. We still dont have either a WC title or an Olympic gold in the cabinet.
Money cant buy you success.
The money have always been good in Msian badminton. The Msian government have been injecting cash every year for the game. As far as rewards are concerned, the financial gains are more than decent. For example, when Msia won the Thomas Cup in 92, the shuttlers were given prime land which made them overnight millionaires.
Infact, I would say for all the money the government have been pouring into badminton in Malaysia, the returns are pretty miserable. We still dont have either a WC title or an Olympic gold in the cabinet.
Don't be too pessimistic. :) There is certainly hope for Malaysian players to do well.
If the incentives continue to be attractive and are officially supported by the relevant authorities, you don't have to wait very long for an Olympic gold. It would have been better if this announcement has come a year or so earlier to give more preparation time for the players who are committed to making it their main goal.
Still, despite the short notice vis-a-vis the Olympic dates, I think it will spur some more motivated Malaysian players to give of their best, particularly LCW, KKK/TBH and even WMC. :)
eaglehelang
04-14-2008, 06:21 AM
But they can motivate you to play better and go for a win! :)
Errr, 'uncle' Loh, perhaps you havent read Abedeng's post on Msian players feeling more pressured if rewards are announced earlier or the rewards increased ;).
With more rewards comes the expectations they must win a medal, or else...
Like TBH said in answer to this RM1 mil reward : "If win it then only talk, if dont win, RM500 mil also no point."
Errr, 'uncle' Loh, perhaps you havent read Abedeng's post on Msian players feeling more pressured if rewards are announced earlier ;).
With more rewards comes the expectations they must win a medal, or else...
Like TBH said in answer to this RM1 mil reward : "If win it then only talk, if dont win, RM500 mil also no point."
They'll soon get used to it and take it in their stride. :)
They will then realise that they are not working hard for nothing. Only their goal is fixed they'll remain more focussed. After all they are learning to become true professionals and they know what to expect when they succeed.
Isn't better to know what you're working for instead of hoping for the best? ;)
eaglehelang
04-14-2008, 06:57 AM
They'll soon get used to it and take it in their stride. :)
They will then realise that they are not working hard for nothing. Only their goal is fixed they'll remain more focussed. After all they are learning to become true professionals and they know what to expect when they succeed.
Isn't better to know what you're working for instead of hoping for the best? ;)
Not really, it's like saying "Now we pay you more, so no excuse for not winning."
It doesnt make it any easier to win it. Hoping for the best? They must win a medal (target has been lowered from gold to any colour). If they dont, it's considered a major failure like OG 2004 & 2000.
Let me put it another way : if I'm the athlete,I'll be thinking "Yeah right, :rolleyes:, say only give more motivation, actually more pressure."
Not really, it's like saying "Now we pay you more, so no excuse for not winning."
It doesnt make it any easier to win it. Hoping for the best? They must win a medal (target has been lowered from gold to any colour). If they dont, it's considered a major failure like OG 2004 & 2000.
Let me put it another way : if I'm the athlete,I'll be thinking "Yeah right, :rolleyes:, say only give more motivation, actually more pressure."
Take it the more positive way. "Now we want to reward you more to motivate you to do better."
The professional will learn to take the pressure and become more mature, single-minded and more focussed with less distractions. :cool:
eaglehelang
04-14-2008, 10:36 AM
Take it the more positive way. "Now we want to reward you more to motivate you to do better."
The professional will learn to take the pressure and become more mature, single-minded and more focussed with less distractions. :cool:
LOL, you know well enuf Msia sporting authorities do not think that way.
Anyway, the players know they will have to absorb the pressure & just take it on. Rewards wont be the main thing the players are thinking of.
Increased rewards is just Msia govern wanting to keep up with what other countries are giving, dont want to lose face. It has been anticipated they (govner + private) will give RM1 mil since end of 2007.
Pemuda
04-14-2008, 09:00 PM
Errr, 'uncle' Loh, perhaps you havent read Abedeng's post on Msian players feeling more pressured if rewards are announced earlier or the rewards increased ;).
With more rewards comes the expectations they must win a medal, or else...
Like TBH said in answer to this RM1 mil reward : "If win it then only talk, if dont win, RM500 mil also no point."
Difficult to find a situation where the financial rewards are big and no pressure etc. :rolleyes:
Pemuda
04-14-2008, 09:03 PM
LOL, you know well enuf Msia sporting authorities do not think that way.
Anyway, the players know they will have to absorb the pressure & just take it on. Rewards wont be the main thing the players are thinking of.
Increased rewards is just Msia govern wanting to keep up with what other countries are giving, dont want to lose face. It has been anticipated they (govner + private) will give RM1 mil since end of 2007.
When the government dont give, people will moan no rewards or not enough rewards. When the government give, the same people will moan and rant, too much pressure la. :rolleyes:
Pemuda
04-14-2008, 09:06 PM
Take it the more positive way. "Now we want to reward you more to motivate you to do better."
The professional will learn to take the pressure and become more mature, single-minded and more focussed with less distractions. :cool:
Msians dont like pressure etc. BUT we love the big rewards part. And we especially love it when things are easy i.e. spoon fed, subsidised, given free with no hassle whatsoever.
eaglehelang
04-14-2008, 09:38 PM
When the government dont give, people will moan no rewards or not enough rewards. When the government give, the same people will moan and rant, too much pressure la. :rolleyes:
The reply was to Loh ;). And the 1st post to Loh was abt announcing rewards earlier & pressure, which has been brought up bf by another BCer in another thread.
For the 3rd time, you dont have to read it or waste your time commenting on my replies to others if you find it too stupid or not to your taste. And I know extremely well your views on this, we already debated on this extensively.
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The former Sports Minister already put forth to the cabinet the RM1 mil since end 2007, and I guessed as much they will give it (not from govern but govern + private) and true enuf most probably they will, he he he.
The difference is the hype that surround it compared to other countries (this both Msians & non Msians know about), including countires that havent won gold before.
Pemuda
04-14-2008, 10:07 PM
The reply was to Loh ;). And the 1st post to Loh was abt announcing rewards earlier & pressure, which has been brought up bf by another BCer in another thread.
For the 3rd time, you dont have to read it or waste your time commenting on my replies to others if you find it too stupid or not to your taste. And I know extremely well your views on this, we already debated on this extensively.
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The former Sports Minister already put forth to the cabinet the RM1 mil since end 2007, and I guessed as much they will give it (not from govern but govern + private) and true enuf most probably they will, he he he.
The difference is the hype that surround it compared to other countries (this both Msians & non Msians know about), including countires that havent won gold before.
When did I find your replies too stupid or not to your taste?? :o
I merely said it is not easy being the Malaysian government. When they dish out rewards, people will moan about the pressure and all. But when they dont dish out the rewards, people will cry about no financial gains etc. Pretty straight forward stuff, actually. I really dont know what you are rambling on about.
Pemuda
04-14-2008, 10:11 PM
The former Sports Minister already put forth to the cabinet the RM1 mil since end 2007, and I guessed as much they will give it (not from govern but govern + private) and true enuf most probably they will, he he he.
The difference is the hype that surround it compared to other countries (this both Msians & non Msians know about), including countires that havent won gold before.
Hype?? What hype?? :confused:
Are you saying countries that never won gold in badminton e.g. France, England, India, Thailand etc etc are all giving million dollar cash rewards for their shuttlers should they bring home the gold from Beijing?
badadum
04-15-2008, 03:42 PM
Hype?? What hype?? :confused:
Are you saying countries that never won gold in badminton e.g. France, England, India, Thailand etc etc are all giving million dollar cash rewards for their shuttlers should they bring home the gold from Beijing?
Hypes surrounding the possibility of the 1st ever Olympic gold medal for the country. Indonesia did that (1Billion Rupiah) and Singapore is doing the same right now. To venture outside Asia, Bulgaria is rewarding Olympic Gold Winner with 100K leva (about 250K RM).
Pemuda
04-15-2008, 08:22 PM
Hypes surrounding the possibility of the 1st ever Olympic gold medal for the country. Indonesia did that (1Billion Rupiah) and Singapore is doing the same right now. To venture outside Asia, Bulgaria is rewarding Olympic Gold Winner with 100K leva (about 250K RM).
Yeah, but is the 'hype' in Malaysia any different than say Indonesia or Singapore as claimed???
Bulgaria offering 100K leva for their first gold in badminton?
azabaz_ipoh
04-15-2008, 09:01 PM
i wonder what the issue is about anyway. think about it, unless they win the gold, it does not matter if the reward is 1 mil or more. they will not get it. be it too much pressure, unlucky, reward not enough or whatever else that could be used as an excuse, if nobody won any gold, nobody will get the money. be it the shuttlers or other athletes in the malaysian contigent. and if they manage to win the gold, a first for the country, is 1 mil too much? i dont think so. it is a big thing winning a gold in the olympics for countries still trying for their first one. :D
so basically, if they manage to win it, 1 mil is not too much in my opinion. if they fail, as some have predicted, the 1 mil wont be spent anyway. :)
Pemuda
04-15-2008, 09:58 PM
The issue is that when the government is willing to put forward that million ringgit reward, some came out moaning that it will create pressure etc etc. But when there is no million ringgit reward, these people will still moan that the reward are insufficient.
Very hard to find a situation where the reward is huge but no pressure/expectation at all.;)
cooler
04-15-2008, 10:34 PM
it is weird to see money as a mean of pressure where money everywhere else is seen as an incentive or motive for higher performance. If u see it differently, I highly recommends sending any excess money, prizes, bonuses and/or rewards that may induce undue pressure unto you to Cooler:D:) No, i'm not greedy, i'm helping you.:):):)
Pemuda
04-15-2008, 10:43 PM
it is weird to see money as a mean of pressure where money everywhere else is seen as an incentive or motive for higher performance. If u see it differently, I highly recommends sending any excess money, prizes, bonuses and/or rewards that may induce undue pressure unto you to Cooler:D:) No, i'm not greedy, i'm helping you.:):):)
Exactly!!! Therefore, I find it hard to understand post #19.
cooler
04-15-2008, 11:42 PM
Money cant buy everything:):)yes for those who are never happy, never enough:p
yes for those who are never happy, never enough:p
Those who have an abundance try to buy happiness with it! :D
azabaz_ipoh
04-16-2008, 03:31 AM
not having any is cause for sadness too. :p maybe moderation is the key but how much is considered enough? ahhhh....therein lies the question. hahhahaha.
not having any is cause for sadness too. :p maybe moderation is the key but how much is considered enough? ahhhh....therein lies the question. hahhahaha.
If you take away the word "aspiration" from your vocabulary! And not to be swayed by the Joneses. :rolleyes:
eaglehelang
04-16-2008, 04:51 AM
it is weird to see money as a mean of pressure where money everywhere else is seen as an incentive or motive for higher performance. If u see it differently, I highly recommends sending any excess money, prizes, bonuses and/or rewards that may induce undue pressure unto you to Cooler:D:) No, i'm not greedy, i'm helping you.:):):)
The rewards itself of course is nice, the ppl running it are the ones causing the pressure, that's obvious. If they can give it without the implying that it must land the elusive gold or to a lesser extend silver/bronze, good...
Badminton has been hyped as the "main hope", or only hope for 1st OG gold since KKK/TBH won AE 2007 - this has appeared in the media every 2 to 3 weeks since mid 2007 & will increase frequency nearer to OG.
This issue on RM1 mil has appeared every month since Dec 2007, like the RM1 mil is a very big thing, and therefore no excuse whatsoever to fail.
You havent read earlier posts or Abedeng's post in the other thread (although it was in jest, he has been around long enuf to make sharp observations) or understand the underlying issues or the hype surrounding it or if they will give the rewards on time.
I recall you yourself have posted in the "RM1 mil for OG gold thread" - NSC still owes BAM RM2.5 mil for 2007 funding. I didnt state them as some has already been discussed, and some are on other sports.
Just wait & see what the powers-that-be say in a couple of months time, you'll see what I mean. ;)
So, some may find it weird or contradicting or plain dumb but this type of thing happens in real life.
I like TBH's answer when reporters asked abt it, "if win, then only talk. If dont win, give RM100 mil/RM500 mil also no use" :D
eaglehelang
04-16-2008, 05:03 AM
Exactly!!! Therefore, I find it hard to understand post #19.
Sorry for intrusion, but that's why I said 3X, you dont have to bother to comment on my replies to other ppl (that's what you did in two posts originally), you'll find it "hard to understand" my line of thought 98% of the time.
Unless, like I said bf, you purposely provoke for entertainment which was what I interpret your 1st reply to be.;)
ctjcad
04-16-2008, 09:29 AM
i wonder what the issue is about anyway. think about it, unless they win the gold, it does not matter if the reward is 1 mil or more. they will not get it. be it too much pressure, unlucky, reward not enough or whatever else that could be used as an excuse, if nobody won any gold, nobody will get the money. be it the shuttlers or other athletes in the malaysian contigent. and if they manage to win the gold, a first for the country, is 1 mil too much? i dont think so. it is a big thing winning a gold in the olympics for countries still trying for their first one. :D
so basically, if they manage to win it, 1 mil is not too much in my opinion. if they fail, as some have predicted, the 1 mil wont be spent anyway. :)
The issue is that when the government is willing to put forward that million ringgit reward, some came out moaning that it will create pressure etc etc. But when there is no million ringgit reward, these people will still moan that the reward are insufficient.
Very hard to find a situation where the reward is huge but no pressure/expectation at all.;)
..a win-win situation...:confused:hmmm...M'sians get gold in badminton and RM1 Million while at the same time the govt. is able to "gain" or "not lose" or "regain" any of that RM1 Million..;) :cool:
wood_22_chuck
04-16-2008, 05:42 PM
Dangling one million ringgit in this fashion is a cop-out by the Badminton Association of Malaysia to address the problem in a systemic, comprehensive method of guaranteed success in the international badminton scene.
It conveniently deflects the burden of responsibility away from those in power who can actually effect those changes, and puts the blame squarely on underachieving players.
-dave
cooler
04-16-2008, 05:56 PM
Dangling one million ringgit in this fashion is a cop-out by the Badminton Association of Malaysia to address the problem in a systemic, comprehensive method of guaranteed success in the international badminton scene.
It conveniently deflects the burden of responsibility away from those in power who can actually effect those changes, and puts the blame squarely on underachieving players.
-daveya, mostly for show as BAM knows it is a low probability they need dough out $1 million ringgit. It would be better if gov't actually spends that money on facilities, coaches and training.
Pemuda
04-16-2008, 08:31 PM
Sorry for intrusion, but that's why I said 3X, you dont have to bother to comment on my replies to other ppl (that's what you did in two posts originally), you'll find it "hard to understand" my line of thought 98% of the time.
Unless, like I said bf, you purposely provoke for entertainment which was what I interpret your 1st reply to be.;)
Intrusion? What intrusion you are talking about now!??:rolleyes:
Fyi, I was responding to your; "Increased rewards is just Msia govern wanting to keep up with what other countries are giving, dont want to lose face. It has been anticipated they (govner + private) will give RM1 mil since end of 2007".
Based on your above comment, I again must say it must be tough to be the Msian govern. When they give, people complain. When they dont give, people also complain.
Why go about in a merry go round?
As for your no need to bother about your replies to others thingy. Well, in that case please do likewise.
Have a nice day.
X Ball
04-16-2008, 10:34 PM
If BAM does not incentivize players with rewards, it will be a bigger cop-out.
X Ball
04-16-2008, 10:35 PM
If BAM does not incentivize players with rewards, it will be a bigger cop-out.
It would mean BAM wants results but are not willing to invest in its players like every country that does. In order for an athelete to win gold, he/she would have to excel above everyone else. BAM now recognises that no Malaysian athelete would bring out that excellence if others are motivated by incentives.
Is it money worth spending ? Of course, the ultimate is the Olympic gold.
Pemuda
04-17-2008, 12:05 AM
I am all for rewarding our national athletes when they bring honours to the country, especially the big titles. RM1 million, I would say is a fair price to pay for the first Olympic gold for Malaysia. Infact, RM1 million is pocket change for Malaysia to reward our shuttlers if they do take home the gold or two ;) in Beijing this summer.
Yesterday, the Sun paper exposed how our ex Sports Minister threw away a few millions, http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=21506. With the RM millions being wasted, I would say that RM1 million reward for Msia's first Olympic gold is really cheap. Infact, it should be RM2 million instead.
To digress a little, when I read the Sun's article yesterday and the amount of RM being thrown away, it sort of break my heart when our Sports Ministry had 'no funds' to send our participants for the Special Olympics. We threw away RM11 million but could not spare RM150k or so to send our special athletes to the Special Olympics! :mad:
This is Malaysia Boleh to you.
Dato A
05-09-2008, 10:48 PM
I am all for rewarding our national athletes when they bring honours to the country, especially the big titles. RM1 million, I would say is a fair price to pay for the first Olympic gold for Malaysia. Infact, RM1 million is pocket change for Malaysia to reward our shuttlers if they do take home the gold or two ;) in Beijing this summer.
Yesterday, the Sun paper exposed how our ex Sports Minister threw away a few millions, http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=21506. With the RM millions being wasted, I would say that RM1 million reward for Msia's first Olympic gold is really cheap. Infact, it should be RM2 million instead.
To digress a little, when I read the Sun's article yesterday and the amount of RM being thrown away, it sort of break my heart when our Sports Ministry had 'no funds' to send our participants for the Special Olympics. We threw away RM11 million but could not spare RM150k or so to send our special athletes to the Special Olympics! :mad:
This is Malaysia Boleh to you.
What to do? 11M really for sports purposes? Question mark there....
They do whatever they think right, we shouldn't and not allowed to question them on that.
That's the true spirit of MALAYSIA BOLEH!!:D:D
Dato A
06-17-2008, 06:22 AM
If BAM does not incentivize players with rewards, it will be a bigger cop-out.
It would mean BAM wants results but are not willing to invest in its players like every country that does. In order for an athelete to win gold, he/she would have to excel above everyone else. BAM now recognises that no Malaysian athelete would bring out that excellence if others are motivated by incentives.
Is it money worth spending ? Of course, the ultimate is the Olympic gold.
Invest not enough on its players?
See HH as example.
eaglehelang
06-17-2008, 07:00 AM
Invest not enough on its players?
See HH as example.
Officially, Hafiz with Nusa M all the while, since his junior days. Nusa send him for tourney, not NSC/BAM. And if I'm not mistaken, Hafiz wasnt from the ranks of BJSS.
Look at how KLRC is developing the young Zulfadli. Last time dont time such prog at KLRC, so have no example to compare. Just look at how many International tourneys Zulfadli gets to go, at 16, compared to the BJSS students.
I would prefer Msia invest more money into Sports that give us a good opportunity in winning GOLDs in Olympic and at the same time other big titles. Not only badminton but other sports as well. It will be better that way instead on spending ridiculous amount on sending one person to space.
george@chongwei
06-17-2008, 07:56 AM
I would prefer Msia invest more money into Sports that give us a good opportunity in winning GOLDs in Olympic and at the same time other big titles. Not only badminton but other sports as well. It will be better that way instead on spending ridiculous amount on sending one person to space.
totally agree with this..!!!
limsy
06-17-2008, 09:34 AM
Look at how KLRC is developing the young Zulfadli. Last time dont time such prog at KLRC, so have no example to compare. Just look at how many International tourneys Zulfadli gets to go, at 16, compared to the BJSS students.
zulfadli is not with klrc
limsy
06-17-2008, 09:36 AM
hmm...if malaysia realy win a gold in badminton(og)...bam can ask more money from the goverment for their need in anywhere(junior salary......)
george@chongwei
06-17-2008, 10:43 AM
zulfadli is not with klrc
u are wrong..zulfadhli is from KLRC and he`s juz 15:)
victory
06-17-2008, 10:57 AM
The thread started with an article from The Star online attached with the first post. So I will give my comments base on the article. Two points I want to add.
Firstly I think BAM/Government willing to give hefty reward to players that win metals in Olympic is not wrong. Malaysian players( foreign players as well I believe) really punish their body to train hard everyday. Hence if they win honour for the nation I think they deserve the rewards. Giving out big rewards to motivate athletes to perform well is not something new. A lot of other countries is doing that too. Park Joo Bong and his partner that won Olympic gold is receiving salary every month. They will be recieving their Oplympic salary untill their final day if I am not mistaken. So as far as I am concern giving big rewards to performers is not a issue at all. Besides, with or without additional rewards the players face lots of pressure anyway.
However, I think the Sport Minister wanting to meet KKK/TBH next month as reported in the article is not appropriate. As far as I can see from the article the Sport Minister single out KKK/TBH and the article reported it as a priority. I suspect that is the reason the TBH feel the heat and thus commented " If win then we talk about rewards otherwise 5 mil also no point". IMO, if the Sport Minister sincerely want to show concern and to motivate the team he could have a meeting with the whole Oplympic bound players and the coaches. Why must he single out KKK/TBH and have the newspaper reported it as priority? Why must he do it in such a high profile manner? If I am in their shoes I will probably think why must the Minister want to see us only? Are we the only one that bear the "Must Win" responsibilty? Even we are given the "honour " to meet the Minister must it be reported in the newspaper? And pin point as priority?
So I think the Sport Minister is very unwise in single out and highlight his meeting with KKK/TBH. Unless he want to do it in a way the says" hey look I have taken time to show concern for you guys you know?? I also have annouce big rewards you see! So we have done our job and it is up to you guys to perform...."
I think may be this is the reason TBH felt the extra pressure and gave his comment about the rewards. I think he is not complaining about the rewards. He is just subtlely and indirectly complain about they are being put under spotlight which increase their pressure unnecessary.(Look he can't just open at fire at the Sport Minister right?)
So I agree with eaglehelang that it is not about the rewards. It is the people that do things and the way they do thing.
limsy
06-17-2008, 11:18 AM
u are wrong..zulfadhli is from KLRC and he`s juz 15:)
huh???he is train by his daddy...not meh???
cooler
06-17-2008, 11:42 AM
Money cant buy everything:):)
that's true, but it'll be loads of fun trying .... :p
that's because there was insufficient money:p
george@chongwei
06-17-2008, 12:05 PM
huh???he is train by his daddy...not meh???
his dad is coaching him but i think KLRC signed him if im not mistaken.
so he`s under KLRC now.
Dato A
06-20-2008, 12:56 AM
his dad is coaching him but i think KLRC signed him if im not mistaken.
so he`s under KLRC now.
Why not join BAM? Future got more chances to represent mas.
eaglehelang
06-20-2008, 08:56 AM
Why not join BAM? Future got more chances to represent mas.
I'm sure KLRC gave a good deal that the dad saw as better than joining BJSS. :D. And Zulfadli is getting to go more International tourneys than BJSS students. If he's good, they'll choose him for team events, no worries.
Dato A
07-03-2008, 09:50 PM
I'm sure KLRC gave a good deal that the dad saw as better than joining BJSS. :D. And Zulfadli is getting to go more International tourneys than BJSS students. If he's good, they'll choose him for team events, no worries.
BAM always give priority to their players...
Pemuda
07-03-2008, 10:01 PM
With a RM1 million carrot now dangled, if Malaysian shuttlers still cant win that Olympic gold, how la???
Dato A
07-03-2008, 10:21 PM
With a RM1 million carrot now dangled, if Malaysian shuttlers still cant win that Olympic gold, how la???
If cant do it, still got another chance mah, 4 years later. Mas always will give chances and chances one.
Maybe the reward will be increase to RM10.00 million for gold medal....:D:D
V3i HoN6
07-04-2008, 12:41 AM
With a RM1 million carrot now dangled, if Malaysian shuttlers still cant win that Olympic gold, how la???
Means they can't get the carrot.
Simple.
That's the concept of rewarding.
Pemuda
07-04-2008, 01:45 AM
Means they can't get the carrot.
Simple.
That's the concept of rewarding.
What kind of 'concept of rewarding' is this when they cannot get that lucrative carrot?
Simple?
V3i HoN6
07-04-2008, 03:06 AM
Something given or received in recompense for worthy behavior.
Win medal , got reward in return.
No medal, no reward.
eaglehelang
07-04-2008, 06:29 AM
BAM always give priority to their players...
Yeah, if we know that, I'm sure Zulfadli's dad knows that too. Somehow, the lad's dad saw KLRC as better place for development than BJSS. They dont get into BAM back-up squad till around 18. You can try ask Zulfadli's dad the next time you see him.;)
Pemuda
07-04-2008, 08:59 AM
Winning a medal = worthy behavior?? :o
What about good sportmanship?
Dato A
07-04-2008, 09:45 AM
Yeah, if we know that, I'm sure Zulfadli's dad knows that too. Somehow, the lad's dad saw KLRC as better place for development than BJSS. They dont get into BAM back-up squad till around 18. You can try ask Zulfadli's dad the next time you see him.;)
With RM500.00 Zulfadi cant survive.Thats will his dad choose KLRC, better pay...:D:D
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