who is the best/innovative style player in the world?

[riz125]

there are so many stylish players in the world. off course without a doubt we have linDan, P.Gade,T.Hidayat, L.C.W, plenty of doubles men, women, mix and many many more.i just love watching different players play in different styles to bring in something new to the badminton world everyDay:D

who in your opinion is the most stylish badminton player in this 21st century who has brought style, innovation, creation, new moves etc:eek::p to this simple game and made it more interesting for us not just to play but to watch&learn too:cool:

well what do you think:confused::rolleyes:

[taufik-ist]

no doubt.. TH and Lin dan

[Heong]

I'd go for Taufik Hidayat, he has different style to other players & have other unique qualities, same with Lee Chong Wei's style & defensive play.

and Wong Choong Hann's nice footwork. =D

[extremenanopowe]

Taufik is gifted.

[jerby]

The most creative....
I'd say Tony Gunawan or Mia Audina (retired).

Lin Dan is also very creative (surprisingly so for his style of play). Taufik had a great style and netskill... Peter Gade is very deceptive

Actually, there're a lot of good things you can say about pro's...
Maybe that's because they're some inhumanly good ;)
This is about as challenging as arguing which colour is the prettiest :p

[Dreamzz]

black of course!

[jchan04]

Peter Gade in the early 2000's came out as a very explosive player and he attack a lot of shots. He also came out as a deceptive player. Known for pulling risky shots and using unorthodox methods to win the game.

[Smichz]

no doubt.. TH and Lin dan

AGreed..Double,i would say cai yun..

[Smautf]

...I'd go for TH as well...an artist indeed!

For the rest I'd mention Lee Jae Jin (KOR) and Nathan Robertson (ENG) - both capable of exquisite badminton moments, and for the ladies Gao Ling (CHN) and Lilliana Natsir (IND).


Smautf

[bananakid]

I am surprised nobody mentioned LYB for his innovation of match fixing. LOL.:p

Back to topic... Peter Gade is my choice.:cool: Or Lin Dan's triple dive shot retrieving technique:p

[Makunouchi]

Aside from the ones already mention...my money is with Sigit Budiarto and Hendrawan.:D

[TrueBlue]

taufik plays like in a dream.

[Wong8Egg]

Sigit Budiarto for MD!!!
Taufik Hidayat for MS!

[sumbadder]

Yang Wei perhaps? She pulls of some ridiculous stuff on court.

[jhirata]

Taufik for MS. He pulls out moves which you couldn't even think of before.

[Dreamzz]

imma gonna go for sigit, you just never know what he's gonna do next.
i'm surprised candra does, at times ...

[ctjcad]

I am surprised nobody mentioned LYB for his innovation of match fixing. LOL.:p
...
..i'm surprised no one has mentioned Koo Kien Keat for his innovation in pulling off different hair colors/styles (even as far as going bald) while at the same time accessorizing himself with jade pendants, rings, bracelets, gold earrings & chains....all the bling2 (even Taufik couldn't pull that off)...:cool:
*okay, enough picking on KKK, before our koo_fan is upset*...:p ;)

As for the "best/innovative player in the world in this century", well, i think it's a bit early as it's only been 8 yrs, isn't it??...So, i think the answer should come in about 92 more yrs...:rolleyes: :p:cool:

[bad_fanatic]

Aside from the ones already mention...my money is with Sigit Budiarto.:D

I have to agree. I think there's more ohhh's and awww's when he plays then anyone else.

[george@chongwei]

lee chong wei and taufik of course:)

[kubuk]

LCW on preparation stances, dives.
TH on net play, backhand, overall court movement
PG on deceptiveness

[nmy3889]

i would say that kkk/tbh are most innovative when they surprise us with unexpected losses....sometimes even making us fall off our seats...hehe...

but lin dan is the most innovative player to me...his shots are simply unpredictable.... ( and we can't tell when will he punch the next person...haha)

[Krisna]

Taufik learned many of his moves from his 1st top guru: Iie Sumirat, INA's #3 MS during the 1970s... Iie was one heck of a badminton artist! And such a great crowd pleaser! Taufik is a more athletic derivative of his guru... I would even argue that Iie was even more deceptive than Taufik. Iie is a charming guy and a pleasant guy to be with. He taught Taufik personally because he knew Taufik was a child prodigy...

Unfortunately, Taufik also learned Iie's idiosyncracies :o [no respect for structure and authority, up & down motivation and discipline, and a penchant for pretty women]. Iie himself got married 8 times :eek: [until today]... He must have learned this from Elizabeth Taylor... :D

Sigit was also inspired by Eddy Hartono, his older senior at Djarum Badminton Club. Eddy Hartono [a.k.a. Kempong] won the 1991 All England MD title and an older brother of Haryanto Arbi, the 1995 MS World Champ. Eddy also has a fascinating playing style. Just a bit overweight, ha ha.

[ctjcad]

..skills and talent-wise, Taufik is indeed a prodigy...It's a combination Taufik's talents as well as Iie's teachings) as not all of Iie's past students can be as great as Taufik.

...
Unfortunately, Taufik also learned Iie's idiosyncracies :o [no respect for structure and authority, up & down motivation and discipline, and a penchant for pretty women]. Iie himself got married 8 times :eek: [until today]... He must have learned this from Elizabeth Taylor... :D
...
...i would say those are part of Iie's influence. Part of them could be from parental and/or social/friends upbringing/influences; or maybe Taufik himself. But let's hope the latter won't happen to Taufik (he sort of got into a bit of "hot water" early in his marriage):p

[PEGDA]

for me MS: Taufik, Chen Hong, Peter Gade
MD: Tony, Sigit, Lee Yong Dae

[Xinguy]

I will go for Xia Xuanze, Chen Hong & peter gade:)

[Xinguy]

I will go for Xia Xuanze, Chen Hong, Lee Chong Wei & peter gade:)

[taufik-ist]

..skills and talent-wise, Taufik is indeed a prodigy...It's a combination Taufik's talents as well as Iie's teachings) as not all of Iie's past students can be as great as Taufik.

...i would say those are part of Iie's influence. Part of them could be from parental and/or social/friends upbringing/influences; or maybe Taufik himself. But let's hope the latter won't happen to Taufik (he sort of got into a bit of "hot water" early in his marriage):p

if he dares marry more than 1 times (a poligami/ group marriage).. we know, where he will ends up :eek: :eek:

[jchan04]

if he dares marry more than 1 times (a poligami/ group marriage).. we know, where he will ends up :eek: :eek:
do you mean
polygamy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy

[Smichz]

if he dares marry more than 1 times (a poligami/ group marriage).. we know, where he will ends up :eek: :eek:

Haha..taufik will dare not,since he knows very well who is his father in law..:D

[taufik-ist]

do you mean
polygamy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy

ya... correct, it's a polygamy

[yy_ling]

actually i think kenneth jonassen is the most innovative. because he one of the very few who plays defensive singles

[nick.h]

...taufik taufik taufik all the way... :D :D
although sigit is also very innovative in his style of play...

[tjl_vanguard]

GAO LING!! cuz win alot of OG medals.. haha n cuz she's cute.. :D

kk....

i think kkk has it.. trick shots.. but all rounder, TG.. :D

[sonnymak]

The thread is best innovative player, innovation means some new style or technique not seen before by players before.

Innovative players doesn't mean creative players that is playes who during their matches can play variety of shots.

In fact innovative players doesn't necessary mean they are the top players. Many innovative players' achievements can be quite mediocre.

For instance the Diving retrieval wasnt innovated by LD like someone claimed here, it was first seen in MS by FOO KOK KEONG of Malaysia who practised diving cross court every day and use it to defend his matches. He use to dived a few times in one rally to prevent the shuttle from touching the floor.

Most MS single from Malaysia uses it from Ong Ewe Hock. Yong Hock Kin and today LCW before it has become part of the repetoire of top MS today.

As for the innovation of the 21st century, Ha-Kim and Lee - Yu played differently from others in that they used a lot powerful flat jabs and cross court pushes in their game.

Sigit's game is creative but not innovative as most of his shots were combination of Rexy's smashing technique (which was innovative then) and Ricky's fast serves all developped from the late 80s training by Christian Hadinata.

Taufik's game is creative but all his technique were seen in different MS champions in the 80s and 90s so I cant say he was innovative in that he brought a technique not seen before.

LD's game in fact is the the standard flag bearer of the Chinese's technique that trace by to Thing Hien Hiow (aka Tang Xienhu) in the 60s and 70s (or should I say Indonesian innovation).

Zhao Jian Hua was innovative but rarely seen in China's MS these days but you can see it applied by PG, Taufik and LCW although not consistently.

I cant see anything innovative in today's players but most of whom are applying the innovations that were brought about by players in the 80s and 90s in the last century.

[pjswift]

Thanks for your sharing your knowledge and expertise, sonnymak.

[jchan04]

well from that long post... i can safely say that Peter Gade has innovatively developed new deceptive shots for our great entertainment! And it's proven he's even won games with those shots. Agree?

[xXazn_romeoXx]

Kendrick Lee and Marc Zwiebler are the MS future and shape the game pretty well with style..

[jchan04]

Kendrick Lee and Marc Zwiebler are the MS future and shape the game pretty well with style..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWBuNl85fes
look at the rally i pick up from Marc Zwiebler

[xXazn_romeoXx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWBuNl85fes
look at the rally i pick up from Marc Zwiebler

ya i have it favourited i think...but i definately saw it before...definately reasons why to pick him as someone that innovates this great game with his style, flow, and his speed :p;)

[sonnymak]

Well a saw that clip of Mark Zwiebler, cant say I saw anything that was innovative, all the strokes and techniques of Mark was quite fundamental in today's MS. in fact it looks very much like Foo Kok Keong's style of rally rally rally and defend dive defend.

[xXazn_romeoXx]

Well a saw that clip of Mark Zwiebler, cant say I saw anything that was innovative, all the strokes and techniques of Mark was quite fundamental in today's MS. in fact it looks very much like Foo Kok Keong's style of rally rally rally and defend dive defend.

i just find that his style and flow of play resembles Peter Gade's flow...but i suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion, and i do understand where you're comming from...most people would choose LD/TH/LCW because they ARE the best :p:D

[jchan04]

i just find that his style and flow of play resembles Peter Gade's flow...but i suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion, and i do understand where you're comming from...most people would choose LD/TH/LCW because they ARE the best :p:D
you're right, Zwiebler does sort of resemble Gade... but Gade does it better and smoothier and... Gade looks more relaxed... the styles are similar however.

[ting03]

i think best style is Taufik Hidayat, love his relax-ed-ness and his I-don't-really-care-about-anything attitude, really adds to his overall image lol

[Slicedbanana07]

Fu Hai Feng cos of his split step and bouncy movements.

[sonnymak]

Actually, although the topic talks of who is the best/inno player in the world today, after to talk a little about yesterday. After watching Cheah Soon Kit again in the doubles final at TC 1992 and Oli Gold final at in 1996 videos as well as my memory of 1988 TC semifinal game, CHeah's game was innovative compared with his senior players of LYB_Tian, Razif_Jailani, Eddy_Gunawan and Prk _KIm.

A lot of jump smash, drops from the back, cross court jabs so lethal and cross court block defence that caracterised the double game of the 90s and todays.

[shanisen3200]

Sigit Budiarto for MD!!!
Taufik Hidayat for MS!

agree with you
,plus kim dong mun

[riz125]

i havnt heard many people talkin abt Nova Wudianto from indonasia serious i think he is a super player and his amazin cross courts and jump smashes are awsomeeeeeee

[Heong]

I almost forgot Kim Dong Moon.

Such a legend in skill.
his finger power, wrist, technique is godly!

[Dato A]

The best style of badminton player - sure votes go for KKK mah...

[simonlovers]

Susi Susanti...with her service...:D

[pejantan]

1. Rudy Hartono for Speed and Power Game that influence all player today. Since his appearence we can see smash, dropshot and drive...not just rally...and other boring game

2. Liem Swie King for his jumping Smash...all player now using jump smash

3. Taufik Hidayat for his Special Backhand Technique...i never see a player with two wing attack like the bad boy, an opponent cannot relax with his BH, cos he can smash with great power..is it innovatife? absolutely Yes...he can depend on his BH

4. Icuk Sugiarto with his determination (not sure ..)

5. Zhao Jianhua....when he jump...no one know where the ball goes....

6. Also Ricky/Rexy, not sure bout this, but i think both of them speed up the game more than before, smash...drive...smash.....

I also note that there is a men double player from china that use spin serve, unfortunately its already banned...its around 80's

[george@chongwei]

I also note that there is a men double player from china that use spin serve, unfortunately its already banned...its around 80's


no , u are wrong ...
that spin serve was created by the sidek brothers and its called a spin serve or S-serve..
and unfortunately its already been banned by BWF because they said it will spoil the shuttle:D

[pejantan]

ahh...thanx for the info, but are u sure thats from sidek brothers? actually i read from indonesian local news paper, it said that chinese pair found that serve...and then banned by IBF cos its to "tricky", and not good for badminton....maybe just like hidden serve in tabletennis...but still CMIIW :D

[hiltonmoreira9]

I think tricky moves could boost badminton marketing,
so that it will be more popular.. anyone agree?

[taneepak]

China's Wu Dixi, 1982 WD All England winner, was feared for her service. It then nearly made the game a farce with virtually unplayable backhand spin-serves. The shuttle swerved late-and fully two feet. I saw her play many times at a time when such serves were not considered a fault. It was served with the base or cork up, not down as it is done today.

[Shounen]

Uhh....i prefer Lee Chong Wei defensive and speed style and Lee Hyun Il for fast improvement on defensive and attacking

[ngkt67]

actuualy who first design the dive defense?

[cooler]

Susi Susanti...with her service...:Dhmm, never tried her service before. :D

[cooler]

I am surprised nobody mentioned LYB for his innovation of match fixing. LOL.:p

Back to topic... Peter Gade is my choice.:cool: Or Lin Dan's triple dive shot retrieving technique:p
Nope, i believe korean line judges beat LYB hands down on crude and blatant creativity:p.

[bananakid]

Nope, i believe korean line judges beat LYB hands down on crude and blatant creativity:p.

LOL... Korean line judges are pretty cool in my opinion. If it wasn't because of them, world of badminton would have never witness the one and only flying AT700 incident. :p

[bh185008]

Taufik Hidayat for MS
Sigit Budiarto for MD
Nova Widianto for XD

[Destricto_Ense]

Taufik gets my vote. Lin Dan may be more consistent, but Taufik is sure as hell more interesting to watch.

[Avatar]

100% agrees with bh185008

Taufik Hidayat for MS
Sigit Budiarto for MD
Nova Widianto for XD

LCW is also in the same league.

looking at my choices, i must say indo players have the most creative/innovative style overall...

[bad_fanatic]

100% agrees with bh185008

Taufik Hidayat for MS
Sigit Budiarto for MD
Nova Widianto for XD

looking at my choices, i must say indo players have the most creative/innovative style overall...

I don't if the Indonesian have the most creative/innovative style, but Taufik and Sigit are the fanciest players there is.

[rancho_eleven]

korean wd player lee hyo jung
nice deceptive shots and placement skills

[george@chongwei]

korean wd player lee hyo jung
nice deceptive shots and placement skills
hi, welcome to the forum!
maybe you can introduce more about yourselves in the introduction section of the forum!:);)

[Destricto_Ense]

Is it completely illegal to spin the shuttle when serving? I usually slice downwards slightly just upon contact with the shuttle when short serving, it keeps it low to the net. It's not a big swing though..

[kimir]

Sigit Budiarto for MD!!!
Taufik Hidayat for MS!

i agree with u!

[hansonlouphers]

i'd like to say,, Liliyana Natsir with her service. very uniques style of give serving,, :D

[Yojimbo]

How bout the 'crocodile' serve? I don't really know about it...heard it from a family member..It was created by the Sidek brothers..but it was banned ^^ Does anyone know more bout this?

[george@chongwei]

huh? crocodile serve??
didnt heard about it before also..:(

[Oldhand]

The answer lies elsewhere in the forum.
Please stick to the topic here :)

[blackbhara92]

lee yong dae !!!! he's rock

[narnia]

in my view, LYD seems to learn very fast about his opponents' playing style or movements. one of the evidence would be that he seldom loses the rubber sets. :)