View Full Version : Is racket clashing an usual thing ?
Wildstone 04-13-2008, 10:01 PM Is racket clashing something normal that we should just take it with a grain of salt and be done with it ?
Usually when I broke my strings I'll go 'ooops, gotta restring again tomorrow'. How many of you guys when you break your racket you'll just go 'ooops, I'm going to get a new racket tomorrow' ?
It's seems like badminton is starting to evolve as a high maintenance sport don't you think ?
jchan04 04-13-2008, 10:26 PM racket clashing is not usual. well only usual for beginner players, i remember when i was in grade 9-10... there were frequent racket clashing because i didnt know about footwork or any rotations. but racket clashing shouldn't happen. recently... a month ago, i just got my AT700 restrung and it was at the best tension ever and my partner and i were practicing. he was a lefty and i was a right hander. we both when for a smash and my racket cracked against his Black Knight. It was a good racket and i just looked at it and said... I have a spare. I didn't break down or anything i just complained to myself that who ever calls it must go for it, it was entirely my fault.
Dream Hai 04-14-2008, 06:44 AM Is racket clashing something normal that we should just take it with a grain of salt and be done with it ?
Usually when I broke my strings I'll go 'ooops, gotta restring again tomorrow'. How many of you guys when you break your racket you'll just go 'ooops, I'm going to get a new racket tomorrow' ?
It's seems like badminton is starting to evolve as a high maintenance sport don't you think ?Your strings should last you 2 months min. unless you are playing or practicing more than 30 hrs a week...BG 65 last long time and plays well....the most popular string in Vietnam, plus it is cheaper...I train and play 21 hrs a week and spend hours on drops/slices and my string will last 2 months easy...
Clashing rackets just happens....no matter how good you are there will be clashes of rackets....unless you want to just let the middle smashes go for winners...we use the "front player takes it first"...meaning the player who is closer to the net takes the middle smashes and the back player will swing second...if the clear is in the middle(both players equal distance from the net) then we let the backhand player take the smash return...one right and one lefty you have to decide before the game who takes it and even then it will not work all the time...Playing for fun it is not worth breaking a racket to win a point...
pawpawsalad 04-14-2008, 10:08 PM i like to clash rackets on purpose cos mine is cheap :P
jchan04 04-14-2008, 10:14 PM i like to clash rackets on purpose cos mine is cheap :P
that's just evil lol. please dont do it to me.
phaarix 04-14-2008, 10:46 PM i like to clash rackets on purpose cos mine is cheap :P
Haha!! Wow... that's... oh dear :P.
Yeah I had a few clashes in my first couple of years. But that's one of the reasons you start out with cheap gear :). And once my knee broke the racquet of one of the best players in the South Island of New Zealand during half-court warm-ups. He didn't even say sorry!! You'd think my knee was more important than a racquet... :(
Optiblue 04-14-2008, 11:14 PM It might be a usual thing when you're first starting or if your partner is inexperienced. Eventually you'll play smarter even if your partner sucks. If I don't know who I'm playing with, I refuse to give it my full strength unless I can them and what they're doing before hitting. Sure it's a bit slower, but safety first!
Just this last weekend I got paired up with a beginner and when I was already swinging into a backhand shot, the guy runs from his side of the court and ends up crossing over my legs and stepped on my foot while swinging to clear it. Point is, play smart or play singles :)
xXazn_romeoXx 04-14-2008, 11:14 PM lol it shouldn't be usual for high performance training places...but the occasional thing happens...but for social nights and such...fully prepare yourself at least once...but i would totally be bummed if my racket broke lol and unless you're rich or sponsored, it's a pretty horrible thing =="...but i wouldn't care too much ONLY if the match meant something, and i win the point ;):p
aerotus70 04-15-2008, 04:22 AM dont play doubles? :D
if u coordinate with your partner wont clash if you play long enough with him/her. But usually over enthu players tend to clash (want to hit every shuttle that comes over the net)
jhirata 04-15-2008, 05:19 AM Racquet clashing.. it depends on the person I pair up with. When I pair up with one of my best mates that I always pair up with, we never ever clash, and we can rotate our positions around the court and position ourselves in the right place all the time, probably because we're used to it.
But when playing with others, I sometimes have to shout 'sides!!!' all the time.. they obviously dont know the basics of doubles..
I know that the pros do shout 'sides!' or whatever, but that's just something that they've gotten so used to.
It seems like that if my partner doesnt get back into the sides position after clearing or lifting, we tend to *nearly* clash the racquet because he'd always stand right in the middle..
But if there's a chance that we'll clash our racquets, I just dont go for it and I leave it. Losing a point isn't as bad as losing a racquet.
extremenanopowe 04-15-2008, 05:58 AM Should not be usual, but due to some confusion for non advance player, it can happen mainly due to the rules not understood in some cases. Again, even pro does it. That's the hazard. 5-10 rackets broken in your lifetime is considered ok. People may change rackets after 2 years due to feel, influences or new design being developed.
wocdam 04-15-2008, 11:14 AM it's quite normal to clash rackets esp if i'm playing doubles with someone i don't partner often. more so in mixed doubles when the shuttle reaches mid court. that's why my bag usually have 6 rackets, and are the "more durable" kind. to avoid clashes, either play singles or get a regular doubles playing partner
Dreamzz 04-15-2008, 11:50 AM it's unavoidable sometimes, in the heat of 'battle', especially when you and your partner have been pulled out of position, these things can happen. one of the guys in my club broke his at900p last saturday as a result of a clash with his partner, they are both good players. but they were under a lot of pressure defending, and a well placed drive down the center caught them both by surprise, both went for the shot and one of them ending up :crying:.
well, not literally, of course.
Dream Hai 04-15-2008, 12:03 PM it's unavoidable sometimes, in the heat of 'battle', especially when you and your partner have been pulled out of position, these things can happen. one of the guys in my club broke his at900p last saturday as a result of a clash with his partner, they are both good players. but they were under a lot of pressure defending, and a well placed drive down the center caught them both by surprise, both went for the shot and one of them ending up :crying:.
well, not literally, of course.Even in the Super Series you will hear and sometimes see rackets clash and break...the old saying..."shi:rolleyes:t happens" is very true....;)
DexDez 04-20-2008, 01:03 AM Clashing shouldn't happen when two partners are on the same page.
Dream Hai 04-20-2008, 01:16 AM Clashing shouldn't happen when two partners are on the same page.You can be on the same page, same paragraph, same line and still you will have clashes...Badminton is the FASTEST racket sport in the world and played on a court half the size of a tennis court and you will have clashes no matter how good you and your partner are...Besides, how else are we supposed to justify buying new rackets???????:D
exalted 04-20-2008, 02:20 AM Hahahaha, yeah.
I lost an AT700 a couple weeks ago after playing doubles with an overzealous high school mid-level player. I was definitely bummed, but it happens. Can't wait to train today, just had my rackets restrung and regripped them last night ^_^
The joys of badminton..
DexDez 04-20-2008, 11:27 PM When you speak of a competitive level of play, yes badminton clashes are bound to happen on the other hand if you play for the fun of playing, what's 1 point? Many times me and my partner suddenly stops with or racquet in ready to swing position and says "good shot".
kevyeoh 04-21-2008, 12:06 AM this is something which will definitely happen and we can't do much about it... you can try to let go of the shots...but there are times when reflex action takes over and the next thing u know...u're looking at ur broken racket... :)
anyway... this is badminton and you'll have to take it as part and parcel of the game...
BlankShot 04-23-2008, 08:11 AM Uhh no. Racket Clashing isn't usual. If you clash rackets with your partner, it shows that you guys don't work well together and need to practice more together.
*remembers an epic clash between my MP99 and my friends MP100* The whole gym heard it, it was that loud, yet our rackets were unscathed! :D
kitseb 04-23-2008, 09:48 AM Is racket clashing something normal that we should just take it with a grain of salt and be done with it ?
Usually when I broke my strings I'll go 'ooops, gotta restring again tomorrow'. How many of you guys when you break your racket you'll just go 'ooops, I'm going to get a new racket tomorrow' ?
It's seems like badminton is starting to evolve as a high maintenance sport don't you think ?
I don't think clashes are 'normal', but they do happen now and again. If I broke my racket, yes I would say 'ooops (or something similar :p) I'm going to get a new racket tomorrow'
I don't think badminton is high maintenance sport - compare it with horse riding, Skiing, its very cheap. Compared to squash / tennis - no different really, although shuttles are expensive. Most sports can be expensive or cheap depending on how much you want to pay. I could play with a $20 racket (as I do in Squash & Tennis), but I choose to play with a $200 racket. My / your choice (unless you are a pro and then you probably wouldn't pay anyway!).
Dream Hai 04-23-2008, 11:17 AM I don't think clashes are 'normal', but they do happen now and again. If I broke my racket, yes I would say 'ooops (or something similar :p) I'm going to get a new racket tomorrow'
I don't think badminton is high maintenance sport - compare it with horse riding, Skiing, its very cheap. Compared to squash / tennis - no different really, although shuttles are expensive. Most sports can be expensive or cheap depending on how much you want to pay. I could play with a $20 racket (as I do in Squash & Tennis), but I choose to play with a $200 racket. My / your choice (unless you are a pro and then you probably wouldn't pay anyway!).I wonder if there are any professional players in the top 100 that have had to buy a racket since they were teenagers???:D
Dream Hai 04-23-2008, 11:35 AM :crying:Most of the players I know can not afford to just say oops I am going to have to buy a new racket tomorrow...especially the ones with good rackets...:pcheap China racket, yea ok, oops is ok but 200usd :mad:I am going to say lots more than oops...
Most of the post so far have said racket clashing should not happen or usually doesn't happen....the fact is that it happens a lot more than we think it should...but it is still normal for the game...same thing happens in any racket sport where 2 people play in close proximity...Any accident that happens this often has to be a normal occurrence..:D
kitseb 04-23-2008, 11:35 AM I doubt it too. (EDIT: the bit about teenage pro players buying their own rackets!)
kitseb 04-23-2008, 11:44 AM :crying:Most of the players I know can not afford to just say oops I am going to have to buy a new racket tomorrow...especially the ones with good rackets...:pcheap China racket, yea ok, oops is ok but 200usd :mad:I am going to say lots more than oops...
Most of the post so far have said racket clashing should not happen or usually doesn't happen....the fact is that it happens a lot more than we think it should...but it is still normal for the game...same thing happens in any racket sport where 2 people play in close proximity...Any accident that happens this often has to be a normal occurrence..:D
There was a time when I couldn't afford just to go out and buy another, so I do sympathize. I'm financially better off now - older, better job etc. So I can afford to be OK about it :D. Also depends on how much I like the racket. I'm currently looking for a new one - so an excuse such as a broken racket - would be perfect for me ;).
As for normal - it depends on what you mean by normal... I meant that it shouldn't happen every game - for me it happens only once or twice a year - so at that frequency I wouldn't consider to be normal. But I do agree Dream Hai, that it is all part of the game, and I accept it as such - more or less depending on the level of play etc.
Dream Hai 04-23-2008, 12:05 PM There was a time when I couldn't afford just to go out and buy another, so I do sympathize. I'm financially better off now - older, better job etc. So I can afford to be OK about it :D. Also depends on how much I like the racket. I'm currently looking for a new one - so an excuse such as a broken racket - would be perfect for me ;).
As for normal - it depends on what you mean by normal... I meant that it shouldn't happen every game - for me it happens only once or twice a year - so at that frequency I wouldn't consider to be normal. But I do agree Dream Hai, that it is all part of the game, and I accept it as such - more or less depending on the level of play etc.If it were not for clashes the racket industry would only consist of Yonex...So we all see now that racket clashes are good for us (gives us an excuse to buy a new racket):D
But you do see that for you 2 clashes a year are Normal...it is about 6 for me to be normal...Seldom in games for fun...Most happen in the heat of the moment in competition...I play with a Karakal M-Tec 80 and it has broken in half 2 other rackets with only 2 small chips in the paint...If it had been the racket I played with before then I would have lost 2 rackets already...On the other hand I would have gotten 2 new rackets to try...:DI am sure other people have more and some maybe much less, but what ever the number it is normal for them....I am just being argumentative...:D
junsin_junior 04-25-2008, 06:54 AM bad day i had today.i was playing in my school and as the badminton court is always very crowded,there would be ppl playing behind our court.i was playing doubles with my friends when suddenly,i ran to back and swung my racket and it accidentally hit the guywho was playing behind me.i was like using some arrowpoint racket while he was using a sintec nano white which was not a cheap racket.what a very bad day
winstonchan 04-25-2008, 07:02 AM Normal?
The pros will say No. How often do you see the pros crashing rackets in international tournaments?
For average and amateur players, it will probably happen more often.
Dream Hai 04-25-2008, 07:18 AM Normal?
The pros will say No. How often do you see the pros crashing rackets in international tournaments?
For average and amateur players, it will probably happen more often.
The pros we see play are usually the very top of the rankings and I dare say there is not a single one of them that has not clashed rackets...Maybe I watch more matches or something but I have seen or heard many clashes of rackets by the top players...AGAIN...NORMAL is relevant...once a year is normal for some where 20 times a year is normal for another person...I also dont know how we can say that the Pros will say NO it is not normal...without some kind of poll of the professional players, of which I have not seen...It would be interesting though to see what they would say about clashing:D...
Would you say it is normal for a meteor to hit the Earth??? Most would say it is not normal...but, it is normal given that the Earth has been hit numerous times since its formation...
ei8ht 04-25-2008, 08:40 AM they should make rackets which are magnetically charged positive so clashing won't occur since they will repel one another.. XD
kidding aside, clashes are normal, but as you progress it should occur less often than usual..
kitseb 04-25-2008, 08:44 AM The pros we see play are usually the very top of the rankings and I dare say there is not a single one of them that has not clashed rackets...Maybe I watch more matches or something but I have seen or heard many clashes of rackets by the top players...AGAIN...NORMAL is relevant...once a year is normal for some where 20 times a year is normal for another person...I also dont know how we can say that the Pros will say NO it is not normal...without some kind of poll of the professional players, of which I have not seen...It would be interesting though to see what they would say about clashing:D...
Would you say it is normal for a meteor to hit the Earth??? Most would say it is not normal...but, it is normal given that the Earth has been hit numerous times since its formation...
Wikipedia qotes normal refering to a lack of significant deviation from the average. (can't totally trust this source, but its good enough....:))
So the problem with thinking clashes as normal, you need to bring in some frequency. Is it normal to have a clash every game - most people (trying to get an average) would say no - and I'm sure if it was assessed mathematically the average number of clashes per game would be quite low. Clashing once (or a few times) a year - on average - yes thats perhaps normal. So I think the normality of your clashes needs to be put into context of the frequency that the average (mathematical normal) clash rate. :eek::eek::eek: Enough of this high level thinking. It doesn't happen very often, so time to lie down and rest my brain. :D
Dream Hai 04-25-2008, 11:09 AM Wikipedia qotes normal refering to a lack of significant deviation from the average. (can't totally trust this source, but its good enough....:))
So the problem with thinking clashes as normal, you need to bring in some frequency. Is it normal to have a clash every game - most people (trying to get an average) would say no - and I'm sure if it was assessed mathematically the average number of clashes per game would be quite low. Clashing once (or a few times) a year - on average - yes thats perhaps normal. So I think the normality of your clashes needs to be put into context of the frequency that the average (mathematical normal) clash rate. :eek::eek::eek: Enough of this high level thinking. It doesn't happen very often, so time to lie down and rest my brain. :D:crying:If I had a clash every game I would give up the sport...But it is a normal part of the game of badminton....and we have to live with it...like it or not...It does serve a useful purpose, provides us the perfect opportunity to buy new rackets...:D
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