lin dan being conned in JB?

[winnie]

any new report on this?
i heard my fren said he was cheated when buying hp in JB

[kenny7_2006]

what?! u mean Lin Dan actually went out to JB and bought a HP?? doubt it...

[george@chongwei]

thats impossible!!
maybe u gets cheated by ur friend:)
haha

[winnie]

i just found 2 chinese news about it
http://sports.163.com/08/0415/19/49JI1C4O00051CAQ.html
http://sports.163.com/08/0416/22/49ME79HN00051L24.html
basically it said that lin dan went to shopping then he saw a new model of samsung hp which he like but there are no stock available.
the salesman insisted him to pay a deposit of RM500 in order for him to order the model but end out lin dan dont like it as it was a touch screen type.
at the end, the salesman rejected his request to return him the deposit he paid earlier..

[chris-ccc]

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winnie... If you are correct, then Lin Dan must be very disturbed in JB, Malaysia. :o:o:o
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[jimbo]

I dont know if LD was cheated but we (probably 90% fans at JB stadium) were "cheated" by his "oscar" performance against CJ :rolleyes:

[winnie]

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winnie... If you are correct, then Lin Dan must be very disturbed in JB, Malaysia. :o:o:o
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i think he's ok la.. RM500 for him is only a small amount:p:D

[chris-ccc]

I dont know if LD was cheated but we (probably 90% fans at JB stadium) were "cheated" by his "oscar" performance against CJ :rolleyes:



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Perhaps Lin Dan's performance was affected because he felt "cheated" before the match.
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[winnie]

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Perhaps Lin Dan's performance was affected because he felt "cheated" before the match.
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if not mistaken, the pic of him in D&G singlet was taken after he was cheated incident woh

[chris-ccc]

if not mistaken, the pic of him in D&G singlet was taken after he was cheated incident woh



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Hahaha :D:D:D

BTW, thank you for sending me the FunWall that I'd just received tonight. :):):)

Going to bed now...... Good Night.
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[robin7]

I read that in Chinapress as well.
http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2008-04-17&sec=sports&art=0417ssa58a25.txt

SMART on court but DUMB off court.:D:p

[markham player]

Did the shop keeper know this guy is LD? I wish he knew.

[vching]

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Perhaps Lin Dan's performance was affected because he felt "cheated" before the match.
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Maybe this news has been spewed out by the Chinese Badminton team to 'explain' the 'shocking' lost of Lin Dan.

[PlayaFromMalaya]

good..................!

[george@chongwei]

wow, this cheating things also the newspaper wants to report..
good job:)

[Kamen]

We were conned by Lin Dan in JB , NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND! :D

[winnie]

he's helpless cos it's a command from li yongbo! haha

[chris-ccc]

We were conned by Lin Dan in JB , NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND! :D



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Kamen, You've reminded me of the famous saying, "He, who laughs first, laughs last". :D:D:D
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[chris-ccc]

he's helpless cos it's a command from li yongbo! haha



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winnie... I wonder what LYB have said to LD about this JB con job. :D:D:D
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[winnie]

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winnie... I wonder what LYB have said to LD about this JB con job. :D:D:D
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i was referring to the case where he lose easily to CJ la! haha:p:D

[PlayaFromMalaya]

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Kamen, You've reminded me of the famous saying, "He, who laughs first, laughs last". :D:D:D
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he who laughs last thinks slowest :D

[jasonmarc]

i just found 2 chinese news about it
http://sports.163.com/08/0415/19/49JI1C4O00051CAQ.html
http://sports.163.com/08/0416/22/49ME79HN00051L24.html
basically it said that lin dan went to shopping then he saw a new model of samsung hp which he like but there are no stock available.
the salesman insisted him to pay a deposit of RM500 in order for him to order the model but end out lin dan dont like it as it was a touch screen type.
at the end, the salesman rejected his request to return him the deposit he paid earlier..


Funny....i tot he should hv 'punch' the shop keeper already......:D:D

The shop keeper's luck is better than........JXX Xxxx Pxxx...:D:D:D

[Jessica]

Funny....i tot he should hv 'punch' the shop keeper already......:D:D

The shop keeper's luck is better than........JXX Xxxx Pxxx...:D:D:D
:D:D:D..This is really funny and as always come out from our creative jason..:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[chris-ccc]

Funny....i tot he should hv 'punch' the shop keeper already......:D:D

The shop keeper's luck is better than........JXX Xxxx Pxxx...:D:D:D



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Hahaha... If LD had punched the shop keeper, LD could be deported from Malaysia, and therefore 'punched out' from the ABC 2008. :D:D:D
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[jasonmarc]

:D:D:D..This is really funny and as always come out from our creative jason..:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Thanks....Jesss.....

Maybe RM 500.00 was nothing to compare with.....the sum .....that some one bet...........in their trainning match........:eek:.......

[liying_0505]

Serve him right!!!!

[sjoe]

Serve him right!!!!

That is not sportmanship from you ! We can dislike someone but no reason to wish him a badluck for their misfortune.

[sjoe]

That is not sportmanship from you ! We can dislike someone but no reason to wish him a badluck for their misfortune.

If I am U and happens in front of me, I will personally refund him RM500. It is bad enough that it happened to your invited guess and yet you cheer for that. What if any Chinese fans read your thread ? embarrassing ?

[susy_forever]

its weird someone quoting their own comment!

[tjl_vanguard]

hahaha.. some seems so hapi tat he got conned?? aha :D

[chris-ccc]

its weird someone quoting their own comment!
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susy_forever...... It is to continue one's thinking process. I often use it. :):):)

winnie...... The next time you see LD, you'll have to tell him to go to LCW's shop for hp and grip. ;););)
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[winnie]

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susy_forever...... It is to continue one's thinking process. I often use it. :):):)

winnie...... The next time you see LD, you'll have to tell him to go to LCW's shop for hp and grip. ;););)
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haha dunwan la.. later he think im trying to con him pulak :p:D
u wan me to help lcw to promote his shop? haha.. tell him to pay me the promotion salary :p:D im more than willing to be his spokeperson ;) ops i mean the shop's spokeperson:p:D:D:D:D

[woodenRacket]

someone (even if not not LD) got conned in your country and surprisigly lots of people are making fun of and seems enjoying his misfortune...
~sign~
dun know what to say...

[sjoe]

someone (even if not not LD) got conned in your country and surprisigly lots of people are making fun of and seems enjoying his misfortune...
~sign~
dun know what to say...

If it happens in my home town and in front of me I will refund his RM500.

[chris-ccc]

i think he's ok la.. RM500 for him is only a small amount:p:D



That is not sportsmanship from you ! We can dislike someone but no reason to wish him a bad luck for their misfortune.



hahaha.. some seems so hapi tat he got conned?? aha :D



Maybe RM 500 was nothing to compare with......the sum......that some one bet......in their training match...:eek:



I read that in Chinapress as well.
http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2008-04-17&sec=sports&art=0417ssa58a25.txt

SMART on court but DUMB off court.:D:p



someone (even if not LD) got conned in your country and surprisingly lots of people are making fun of and seems enjoying his misfortune...
~sign~
dun know what to say...
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You are correct woodenRacket... We should stop making fun of Lin Dan.

Seriously...... We should not be condemning Lin Dan, but the shopkeeper. :(:(:(
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[george@chongwei]

this is a very bad image to our country.. wonder if any european or tourist from all around the world thoughts towards Malaysia:(

[pjswift]

someone (even if not not LD) got conned in your country and surprisigly lots of people are making fun of and seems enjoying his misfortune...
~sign~
dun know what to say...
What makes you think the story is true and LD's a victim?
My first question is, 'Is this story cooked up?' and if not, what's LD's motive in telling it?
This kind of story can have one key effect: Smear Malaysia's retail reputation and leave a lasting bad impression. Why would LD want to do that? That's so small mind.(Can you imagine LCW having a bad shopping experience in CHN and telling netizens about it? LCW wouldn't do that because 1. he has better things to do and 2.he is smart enough to know it can happen anywhere and the last thing to do is to taint a host country's name because it would reflect badly on him.)
Let me give 2 possible reasons why LD told the story:
1. ABC (mainly MAS) fans did not give LD the WR1 reception he expected. Instead LD was booed because of his poor behaviour.Creating the story was his way of getting back at MAS (fans).
2. Assuming the story were true,it's LD's way of showing his retail innocence and for someone who's travelled all over the world, that's rather unbelievable.My experience with JB retailers has been pleasant. They are very accommodating and if there's any special request, they will try their best to help.So, in LD's case, if they have to make a special order for that handphone model, then it makes sense to ask for a deposit which at least will cover their cost, otherwise they may be left holding a baby no one else want if LD changes his mind. Which he perhaps did!
LD has tarnished Malaysia's good shopping impression in his own little way.Well, if I were a Malaysian and knows Mandarin, I would rebut that story the way I did here to neutralise it and let people reflect better.
Maybe, jasonmarc, you can do your country a favour.

[Felicia_txh]

I still doubt bout the news..y LD never report to the police if the salesman reject to refund to him??:rolleyes:

[winnie]

mayb as what pjswift said, it's his fault at the 1st place as there is no way that the salesman would want to refund the RM500 deposit to him after he decided not to buy the handphone.. this is because the sales man need to pay for cost of the handphone which he also cant return to the supplier.. as u know, hp become obselete very fast.. so he need the money to cover his lost in case he cant get buyer for the phone.. this is normal in business

[tjl_vanguard]

nice one winnie.. :D

[chris-ccc]

mayb as what pjswift said, it's his fault at the 1st place as there is no way that the salesman would want to refund the RM500 deposit to him after he decided not to buy the handphone.. this is because the sales man need to pay for cost of the handphone which he also cant return to the supplier.. as u know, hp become obsolete very fast.. so he need the money to cover his lost in case he cant get buyer for the phone.. this is normal in business.



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So... The thread title that winnie had selected (with the question mark) is correct. It was a question, not a statement.

Perhaps the thread could have been titled "Lin Dan lost money in JB". :o:o:o
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[ants]

Lost money is better than Being Conned.

[woodenRacket]

What makes you think the story is true and LD's a victim?
My first question is, 'Is this story cooked up?' and if not, what's LD's motive in telling it?
This kind of story can have one key effect: Smear Malaysia's retail reputation and leave a lasting bad impression. Why would LD want to do that? That's so small mind.(Can you imagine LCW having a bad shopping experience in CHN and telling netizens about it? LCW wouldn't do that because 1. he has better things to do and 2.he is smart enough to know it can happen anywhere and the last thing to do is to taint a host country's name because it would reflect badly on him.)
Let me give 2 possible reasons why LD told the story:
1. ABC (mainly MAS) fans did not give LD the WR1 reception he expected. Instead LD was booed because of his poor behaviour.Creating the story was his way of getting back at MAS (fans).
2. Assuming the story were true,it's LD's way of showing his retail innocence and for someone who's travelled all over the world, that's rather unbelievable.My experience with JB retailers has been pleasant. They are very accommodating and if there's any special request, they will try their best to help.So, in LD's case, if they have to make a special order for that handphone model, then it makes sense to ask for a deposit which at least will cover their cost, otherwise they may be left holding a baby no one else want if LD changes his mind. Which he perhaps did!
LD has tarnished Malaysia's good shopping impression in his own little way.Well, if I were a Malaysian and knows Mandarin, I would rebut that story the way I did here to neutralise it and let people reflect better.
Maybe, jasonmarc, you can do your country a favour.

what I see here is imagination + prejudice.
we are not child; we all know what kind of trick of this "deposit" thing, all over the world, not only in JB.
even if u do not like sb, this is still not the justification u can applaud his misfortue.
I am not going for a debat here. period.

[woodenRacket]

and thank george@chongwei (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/member.php?u=27106) chris@ccc (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/member.php?u=15542) and other members who did not overjoy this incident.

[eaglehelang]

Provided this incident actually happened. It wasnt reported in the English or Malay or mainstream Chinese press (Nanyang & Sin Chew).
Anyway, from my own experience, the dealer/owner normally wouldnt refund the $$$ but allows the customer to choose another model. And they tell the customer upfront. If they dont I would think LD is smart enuf to ask if the deposit is refundable if he rejects the particular hp model.
It's bad for business if they outright refuse to refund - unless LD refuse to purchase other models.

TO be fair to both sides, there are difficult customers who are very fussy & then accuse sellers/dealers of cheating them when the customer dont like the product - whilst agreeing to all the terms & conditions before that. After that, bad mouth the seller.
If you're in the customer service/sales line you would know.

Or could just communication problem. Though Mandarin is widely spoken in Msia, I find China's Mandarin a bit tough to understand at times.