Don't we like the press?

[TranslatorGuy]

http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2008/4/21/sports/21013039&sec=sports

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http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Monday/Sport/2219221/Article/index_html

[vching]

its all perspective....

[badMania]

Two different journalists with two contrasting viewpoints.

I would think that Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong have done well to reach the Semi-Final. However, Lee Chong Wei's defeat is slightly surprising.

Pleasantly good performances by Wong Choong Hann (in beating Chen Yu so convincingly) and Mohd Hafiz Hashim (shocking result over Bao Chunlai).

[chris-ccc]

Two different journalists with two contrasting viewpoints.



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I wonder if those journalists read our comments@Badminton Central. :confused::confused::confused:
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[robin7]

The Star Online is more encourging while NST's analysis is "sad but true".

[zqloy]

Nvr like the indian guy in NST. I think most of us here can write better analysis than him....

[george@chongwei]

yeah, the guy name is K.Bopathy

[vching]

my analysis:



Malaysia failed to win any titles at the just concluded Asian Badminton Championship, with both our top tier men and women players bowing out unexpectedly. Our men, Lee Chong Wei, Kien Keat and Boon Heong, and Tan Fook and Wan Wah failed to reach the finals, while Wong Mew Choo bowed out early too.

While some may brand the Asian Badminton Championship as a total disaster of an outing for Malaysia, there were several pleasing performances, especially from our second tier players. Wong Choong Hann and Hafiz Hashim managed to scalp Chen Yu and Bao Chunlai, a welcoming improvement in the depth of our Men's Singles, which before this, was experiencing a crisis. This certainly takes some pressure of Lee Chong Wei to perform, knowing that he has several notable players to back him up. Kien Keat and Boon Heong on the other hand, according to my calculations, which will officially take over as Malaysia's top Men's Doubles pair at the Thomas Cup, put up a commendable fight against Lee and Jung of Korea, but ultimately faltered.

Which brings us to the Thomas Cup, going to be held in Jakarta at the famed Istora Senayan. While some might comment that Malaysia have been left in a worse than ever position after the Asian Badminton Championships (ABC), I would say that Malaysia is now in a stronger position compared to before they participated in the ABC. There are several reasons for this:

- With the stepping up of Choong Hann and Hafiz Hashim, some pressure can be relieved on Lee, who is expected to deliver a point in all Thomas Cup ties. We all know how much pressure can affect a player's ability.

- The 2nd MS and 3rd MS ties can now be regarded as 'hopes' for team Malaysia to clinch a point. Previously, the 2nd and 3rd MS were regarded as 'sure losses'.

- After unconvincing performances of Kien Keat and Boon Heong throughout the past few tournaments, they have now stood up with their brave and spirited performance against Jung and Lee. This certainly puts to rest many fears that Koo and Tan are slipping further and further away as the Thomas Cup approaches.

- Koo and Tan take over as MD1. I believe this is a good thing for team Malaysia. Why? Lets just look at the possible matchups:

against China:
I believe Koo and Tan stand a better chance against Cai and Fu than Choong and Lee. With Koo and Tan as MD1, Malaysia's chances of sweeping both MD points, a must if Malaysia wants to win, looks brighter than if Malaysia were to field Choong/Lee as MD1.

against Indonesia:
Koo and Tan fare better against Markis and Kido than Choong and Lee will. Koo and Tan have never been defeated by the pair, while Choong and Lee have consistently lost to them. I believe both Choong and Lee and Koo and Tan will both have equal chance of defeating Candra/Nova or Alvent/Luluk, the possible 2nd Indonesian MD.



full article:

The Badminton Blog - Asian Badminton Championship Post Mortem & Thomas Cup Analysis (http://thebadmintonblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/asian-badminton-championship-post.html)

[robin7]

Koo/Tan will not overtake Choong/Lee as WR 4th according to my computation:

Choong/Lee
* 65849
- 3150 (7000-3850)
= 62699

Koo/Tan
* 61151
- 1050 (5950-4900)
= 60101

[robin7]

Ignore previous post.

Koo/Tan will not overtake Choong/Lee as WR 4th according to my computation:

Choong/Lee
* 65849
- 0 (3850 < 5040)
= 65849

Koo/Tan
* 61151
+ 1300 (4900 > 3600)
= 62451

[vching]

did you remember to take into account that Choong/Lee lose their Singapore Open runner up points before the TC?

5/6 is a tuesday, and when 7/6 comes, when the rankings are updated, the SO Runner Up will be wiped.

[vching]

hence, 65849-7800+3850 = 61899 < 62451

[robin7]

My computation is for the next release of world ranking while yours is for ranking right before the TC. Both are correct.:)

[taufik-ist]

My computation is for the next release of world ranking while yours is for ranking right before the TC. Both are correct.:)

and which one will be used for TC

[vching]

and which one will be used for TC

I think the one that is used is the official one when the particular tie starts, which means the one right before TC.

[robin7]

and which one will be used for TC


I think the one that is used is the official one when the particular tie starts, which means the one right before TC.
Since the ranking is updated on every Thursday, either May 1st or May 8th's ranking will be used. I have a feeling is May 1st's.

Can someone confirm on this?

[chris-ccc]

Since the ranking is updated on every Thursday, either May 1st or May 8th's ranking will be used. I have a feeling is May 1st's.

Can someone confirm on this?



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Correct me if I am wrong... I think it could be the May 8th.

There is usually a Team Managers' Meeting on the eve of the TC/UC for managers to field in their teams order.

Therefore, if the fielding of teams order is done on May 10th, I don't see any reason why the latest ranking (released on May 8th) cannot be used.
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[ronnie14]

owh...nst sucky..hahhaha

[eaglehelang]

http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2008/4/21/sports/21013039&sec=sports

vs

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Monday/Sport/2219221/Article/index_html

Ah, you havent read Harian Metro, Berita Harian, Utusan Malaysia, Sin Chew, Nanyang Siang Pau, China Press, yet :D. Metro sees the ABC as failure, disaster & doubtful for Thomas Cup. BH & UM somewhere in the middle.

The Star have always been more supportive/least critical if compared to the other press.

[jasonmarc]

did you remember to take into account that Choong/Lee lose their Singapore Open runner up points before the TC?

5/6 is a tuesday, and when 7/6 comes, when the rankings are updated, the SO Runner Up will be wiped.

But i tot Singapore Open.....is in June 08 right after TC.....????:confused:...:D

[vching]

there is one major misconception with the ranking points. THEY DONT GET REPLACED AS THE NEXT TOURNAMENT IS HELD!!!

It is done in a 52 week cycle. Last year's SO was on 6/5, so they get canned 6/5 this year.

[smash23]

Nvr like the indian guy in NST. I think most of us here can write better analysis than him....


I like the report by NST because they are telling the truth.
No point cheating yourself. It will only make yourself happy (shiok sendiri).
Better be more realistic.
Malaysia sure will lose to Korea with our current player’s performance.

[TranslatorGuy]

Malaysia sure will lose to Korea with our current player’s performance.
Ah yup, don't we like sarcasm? :p:D;)