Lindan- The lonely champion

[Sgbad]

There are rumors that peter gade and taufik hidayat will retire after this year's OG. If that were really to happen, i doubt there will be anyone who is strong enough to beat LD, other than those fixed matches. Wont that make him the "loneliest" man in badminton world circuit? :)

[Silencer]

There are rumors that peter gade and taufik hidayat will retire after this year's OG. If that were really to happen, i doubt there will be anyone who is strong enough to beat LD, other than those fixed matches. Wont that make him the "loneliest" man in badminton world circuit? :)

Peter gade and taufik already cant challenge him now laaa.... so no difference if they retire..

Even if that happens did you forget about LCW? Shouldnt underestimate this man's ability:D:D:D

[Dreamzz]

yeah, don't think TH has even come close to beating him since the AG. can't even remember the last time PG beat him.

[Sgbad]

Peter gade and taufik already cant challenge him now laaa.... so no difference if they retire..

Even if that happens did you forget about LCW? Shouldnt underestimate this man's ability:D:D:D

I know LCW is good, but he doesnt seem to be anywhere near too. I guess TH still intrigues the fear in LD.:D

[Sgbad]

I think LD is under alot of pressure to win this coming Olympics. If he doesnt, he might never get a chance again.

[tjl_vanguard]

yea.. did u watch his "My Olympic - Lin Dan" video?? he said he lost terribly to Ronald under deep pressure.. but, he is so much mature then last time.. he was barely around 21 yrs of age at the Athens..

[tjl_vanguard]

There are rumors that peter gade and taufik hidayat will retire after this year's OG. If that were really to happen, i doubt there will be anyone who is strong enough to beat LD, other than those fixed matches. Wont that make him the "loneliest" man in badminton world circuit? :)
TH did say he will continue to play.. cuz he wants his daughter to able to see him play some day.. :D

[tjl_vanguard]

I know LCW is good, but he doesnt seem to be anywhere near too. I guess TH still intrigues the fear in LD.:D
LCW is everybody's enemy when its his day.. even LD has his own bad day b4! :D never underestimate anybody.. even Anup Sridhar was able to beat TH in WC last yr.. nobody expected tat rite??

[kubuk]

But the problem is, this time the olympics is held at his home ground. That must mean something to LD u know.

And yeah, TH and PG. Been awhile since they beated LD. If I am not mistaken, TH did take away a set in some tournament.

[Sgbad]

yea.. did u watch his "My Olympic - Lin Dan" video?? he said he lost terribly to Ronald under deep pressure.. but, he is so much mature then last time.. he was barely around 21 yrs of age at the Athens..

Ya, i saw that, i guess ronald susilo might have been, damn, this win is like once in a lifetime. I dont see ronald susilo beating LD in the near future. LD is just one strong, mean machine. But, from the look of his injuries, he seems abit unstable. (or maybe those were just staged?):o

[kubuk]

Ya, i saw that, i guess ronald susilo might have been, damn, this win is like once in a lifetime. I dont see ronald susilo beating LD in the near future. LD is just one strong, mean machine. But, from the look of his injuries, he seems abit unstable. (or maybe those were just staged?):o

He nearly did in ABC.

[Sgbad]

TH did say he will continue to play.. cuz he wants his daughter to able to see him play some day.. :D

Well, if i am TH, i might just retire from the world badminton circuit and just be a coach, and a badminton legend. I do not want to be beaten in this coming Olympics, I would want to be the Olympic champion that no one has beaten before. But, thats a loser's mentality. :D:D

[Sgbad]

But the problem is, this time the olympics is held at his home ground. That must mean something to LD u know.

And yeah, TH and PG. Been awhile since they beated LD. If I am not mistaken, TH did take away a set in some tournament.

Yes, i guess if he does not win the Olympics this time, the whole badminton population in the world would be quite disappointed. But, i will be rooting for TH.:D:D

[kubuk]

Well, if i am TH, i might just retire from the world badminton circuit and just be a coach, and a badminton legend. I do not want to be beaten in this coming Olympics, I would want to be the Olympic champion that no one has beaten before. But, thats a loser's mentality. :D:D

This sounds like that legend swimmer. Ian Crook or something.

[robin7]

One quick fact: Lin Dan has won most of the tourneys which are held annually but has NEVER won any tourneys which are held every 2 years (World Championships) or 4 years (Asian Games and Olympic Games).

Note: LD just started winning WC when the event changed to annually.

[Heong]

Lin Dan is the most consistent player. He wins every tournament, except recent fixed matches with Chen Jin.
One thing i noticed bout Lin Dan is that he is pressured when playing in Big Events such as the, Is he nervous? I dont know.

but i cannot say for certain that he will win the OG this year. It depends if he can handle the pressure. There are alot of other players that have improved incredibly fast. (ie. Boonsak Ponsana, Hafiz Hashim, Park Sung Hwan.)

even if Taufik & Peter retired, it would make no difference. There are alotta players that improve faster than expected and it may even surprise you during the OG. Anyone could win Gold. =0

I am going for LCW or WCH! even though he has been doing not so good recently.

[Sgbad]

Lin Dan is the most consistent player. He wins every tournament, except recent fixed matches with Chen Jin.
One thing i noticed bout Lin Dan is that he is pressured when playing in Big Events such as the, Is he nervous? I dont know.

but i cannot say for certain that he will win the OG this year. It depends if he can handle the pressure. There are alot of other players that have improved incredibly fast. (ie. Boonsak Ponsana, Hafiz Hashim, Park Sung Hwan.)

even if Taufik & Peter retired, it would make no difference. There are alotta players that improve faster than expected and it may even surprise you during the OG. Anyone could win Gold. =0

I am going for LCW or WCH! even though he has been doing not so good recently.

Yes, i agree that everyone can win gold. But, its a matter on who is up to it. Badminton isnt like soccer, soccer is an team event, whereas badminton is an individual event. It all depends on the individual skill and experience. I think the closest to LD in terms of skill and experience would be LCW and TH. I dont think WCH stands a chance. But well, we have to wait till the OG to say that.

P.S: I am a TH fan, but i cant deny that LD is the strongest in world badminton now.

[pjswift]

There are rumors that peter gade and taufik hidayat will retire after this year's OG. If that were really to happen, i doubt there will be anyone who is strong enough to beat LD, other than those fixed matches. Wont that make him the "loneliest" man in badminton world circuit? :)
Maybe you can do with an update to see how MS is developing.How about checking out a 3-year trend:
List out MS who have beaten LD in :
*2005
*2006
*2007

[Jagdpanther]

This sounds like that legend swimmer. Ian Crook or something.

You probably refer to Ian Thorpe?

[kubuk]

Yes, thats him. After breaking countless records and winning most of the medals, he quit being a professional at an early age. Thats quite something.

[llpjlau]

One quick fact: Lin Dan has won most of the tourneys which are held annually but has NEVER won any tourneys which are held every 2 years (World Championships) or 4 years (Asian Games and Olympic Games).

Note: LD just started winning WC when the event changed to annually.

isn't he the current World champion? i think he beat Sony Dwi Kuncoro in the finals, didnt he?

[llpjlau]

Yes, thats him. After breaking countless records and winning most of the medals, he quit being a professional at an early age. Thats quite something.

i think it was caused by pressure. i heard somewhere that he could no longer handle the pressure to win.

[george@chongwei]

dont forget some upcoming stars..
maybe they can challenge lin dan..like nguyen tien minh and many more:)
if PG and TH retire, then lee chong wei can challenge lin dan also:):)

[Makunouchi]

I think we can see a better picture after the Tomas Cup. Since it is very important to everybody involved. From that tournament alone we can gauge not very accurately though the performance of the key players.

[Sgbad]

I think we can see a better picture after the Tomas Cup. Since it is very important to everybody involved. From that tournament alone we can gauge not very accurately though the performance of the key players.

Yes, thats true. Wonder if they will be coming to the Aviva open 08 held in singapore in june...:confused::confused:

[AlanY]

Yes, i agree that everyone can win gold.
I'm totally disagree with the above statement. I don't believe anyone with a world ranking outside top 8 or even top 4 will have even an remote chance to win.

[robin7]

isn't he the current World champion? i think he beat Sony Dwi Kuncoro in the finals, didnt he?
U missed out something. Please re-read my post... :rolleyes:

[Badmintan]

Damn, I saw Lin Dan in person in Jusco JB during the ABC week. Damn,that guy walk so damn fast....must be his footwork.
I'm tempted to throw a shuttlecock at his direction. Wonder if he will automatically do a jumpsmash.

But seriously....trying to list ppl who have beaten b4 is kinda limited.

Let's see, Boonsak, Ronald Susilo, Taufik, LCW, BCL, Chen Jin, Park Sun Hwan and Lee Hyun IL.

I still think he will win olympic gold.

[george@chongwei]

Damn, I saw Lin Dan in person in Jusco JB during the ABC week. Damn,that guy walk so damn fast....must be his footwork.
I'm tempted to throw a shuttlecock at his direction. Wonder if he will automatically do a jumpsmash.

But seriously....trying to list ppl who have beaten b4 is kinda limited.

Let's see, Boonsak, Ronald Susilo, Taufik, LCW, BCL, Chen Jin, Park Sun Hwan and Lee Hyun IL.

I still think he will win olympic gold.
hahaha, this verse is damn funny:p:p:p:D:D:D

[llpjlau]

U missed out something. Please re-read my post... :rolleyes:

hahah, ok, i get it now.

[Sgbad]

Damn, I saw Lin Dan in person in Jusco JB during the ABC week. Damn,that guy walk so damn fast....must be his footwork.
I'm tempted to throw a shuttlecock at his direction. Wonder if he will automatically do a jumpsmash.

But seriously....trying to list ppl who have beaten b4 is kinda limited.

Let's see, Boonsak, Ronald Susilo, Taufik, LCW, BCL, Chen Jin, Park Sun Hwan and Lee Hyun IL.

I still think he will win olympic gold.

Maybe he had to run away from reporters etc. You did not walk up to him, and ask him to join your weekly badminton session?:):)Make him your partner in your doubles game.

[nmy3889]

i thought that your "lonely" is in the sense that he doesn't have many friends....

[cooler]

i thought that your "lonely" is in the sense that he doesn't have many friends....
No, lonely as the maytag repairman:p

[koo_fan]

How sure are we that 2009 will keep lin Dan as world num 1??
He is not even a champion in 2009.I mean how would we know?
And i guess olympic is not start yet.

He is the strongest now.Bold the word 'now',please.
Babies were born year after year.Countries produced athletes continuously.
In one year,who knows what will happen?

I have my hands up for Lin dan.He is world strongest player now.Expecting him to be best among the best this '08 sound plausible.

But,we do have another prospective players to be acknowledged.
Do we want Lin dan to be another '00-'05 Ferrari??Please say no.

[koo_fan]

I'm totally disagree with the above statement. I don't believe anyone with a world ranking outside top 8 or even top 4 will have even an remote chance to win.
So,how would ++40th rank football team can beat 2nd rank team in the last WC?
It is 11 players effort to produce that result.And in badminton,it is 1 player's game.If he devoted himself to something.Who will stop him?

What is the use of adidas' tagline then?Hard but it isnt impossible.Or is it vice versa for u?

[bad_fanatic]

I think this OG has a lot of pressure on the Chinese Team, not just Lin Dan alone. Since it's home court advantage to the Chinenese, I believe that everyone think that the Chinese has the advantage and should perform well.

However being Super Dan and currently viewed as the strongest Singles player, a lot of Chinese are think that Lin Dan should win the OG. If I was Lin Dan, I don't think I can handle the pressure. I think the pressure is even greater now then the 2004 OG in Athen because it's in China.

[cooler]

I think this OG has a lot of pressure on the Chinese Team, not just Lin Dan alone. Since it's home court advantage to the Chinenese, I believe that everyone think that the Chinese has the advantage and should perform well.

However being Super Dan and currently viewed as the strongest Singles player, a lot of Chinese are think that Lin Dan should win the OG. If I was Lin Dan, I don't think I can handle the pressure. I think the pressure is even greater now then the 2004 OG in Athen because it's in China.i hope this time bcl and chen jin are much better than before as well, so that they can do damage on other threats (TH & LCW) seeds before meeting LD:D
Better yet, chances are good that bcl and cj can beat TH and LCW on their own right. If cj or bcl shall meet LD in the final, u know who will win this time around;) . That is why it's imperative for lyb to get cj and bcl in the OG draw, 3 bullets to shoot down lcw and TH. The dark horse might be the Korea LHI and park but i think cj and bcl can shoot down those horses as well.

[bad_fanatic]

i hope this time bcl and chen jin are much better than before as well, so that they can do damage on other threats (TH & LCW) seeds before meeting LD:D
Better yet, chances are good that bcl and cj can beat TH and LCW on their own right. If cj or bcl shall meet LD in the final, u know who will win this time around;) . That is why it's imperative for lyb to get cj and bcl in the OG draw, 3 bullets to shoot down lcw and TH. The dark horse might be the Korea LHI and park but i think cj and bcl can shoot down those horses as well.

I think you're right. LD is LYB boy so of course he and probably the rest the China wants LD to win. BCL and CJ is there to make the path easier for LD. Wear down the opponent or beat them for LD. However, I think that even without BCL or CJ, LD can cruise to victory, but depending on his mental. If he puts to much pressure on himself like in the 2004 OG in Athen and 2006 AG in Doha, I don't think he'll win.

But like you, I think those from other nation that might spoil his party are, Soni Kuncaro, TH, LCW, LHI, and PSH.

[cooler]

I think you're right. LD is LYB boy so of course he and probably the rest the China wants LD to win. BCL and CJ is there to make the path easier for LD. Wear down the opponent or beat them for LD. However, I think that even without BCL or CJ, LD can cruise to victory, but depending on his mental. If he puts to much pressure on himself like in the 2004 OG in Athen and 2006 AG in Doha, I don't think he'll win.

But like you, I think those from other nation that might spoil his party are, Soni Kuncaro, TH, LCW, LHI, and PSH.at 100% concentration, LD is unbeatable, period. CJ and BCL are there to beat down others so LD can still beats his foes at 80% level.

[Sgbad]

at 100% concentration, LD is unbeatable, period. CJ and BCL are there to beat down others so LD can still beats his foes at 80% level.

Nicely put. What can i say....:rolleyes:

[AlanY]

So,how would ++40th rank football team can beat 2nd rank team in the last WC?
It is 11 players effort to produce that result.And in badminton,it is 1 player's game.If he devoted himself to something.Who will stop him?

What is the use of adidas' tagline then?Hard but it isnt impossible.Or is it vice versa for u?
well, there is a physical limit to what is possible or not. for example, not a single sport in the world that women are better than men. this is a fact. similarily, if you're outside the top 8 or even 4 in badminton MS there will be a slim or no chance at all for the 2008 olympics gold.

[AlanY]

But like you, I think those from other nation that might spoil his party are, Soni Kuncaro, TH, LCW, LHI, and PSH.
LCW is the only one can take the gold away from the chinese. after all he is the world no 2, a well deserved one for that. but it will be a difficult path. a good show for the forecoming TC will definitely help.

[AlanY]

at 100% concentration, LD is unbeatable, period. CJ and BCL are there to beat down others so LD can still beats his foes at 80% level.
if there are going to be an all chinese final. therefore no home support advantage and no coaching between games effectively. with LD has the adding pressure by playing someone is lesser than him on paper. well, 55/45 will be the best I give him.

[cooler]

if there are going to be an all chinese final. therefore no home support advantage and no coaching between games effectively. with LD has the adding pressure by playing someone is lesser than him on paper. well, 55/45 will be the best I give him.

let see:

LD vs CJ: CJ will pay back all the favors LD gave to CJ so he can qualify the OG. It is a noble thing to do.

LD vs BCL: BCL is the runner-up specialist and he will not relinguish that crown:p

LD has no pressure because he knows he is their dahdee:p

Your use of numerical odds does not make your analysis more accurate

[ants]

I wonder what will happen if CJ vs LD in Semis or LD vs Bao in Semis and winner will face LCW.

[cooler]

I wonder what will happen if CJ vs LD in Semis or LD vs Bao in Semis and winner will face LCW.
doesnt matter,
bcl, cj and ld all have beaten lcw before and not too long ago

[cooler]

One quick fact: Lin Dan has won most of the tourneys which are held annually but has NEVER won any tourneys which are held every 2 years (World Championships) or 4 years (Asian Games and Olympic Games).

Note: LD just started winning WC when the event changed to annually.i bet u that u will PAW him tho LOL

[ye333]

LD will be the winner.

No team order: LD vs BCL is something like 19:4, LD vs CJ n:0 (Of course we should not count AE final and ABC SF). Obviously LD should win.

Team order: LD vs. LCW is like 9:4, BCL like 3:6, CJ like 1:5. Again obviously LD should proceed to the final.

LYB may have to think if the other finalist is PSH. But I think he still will definitely give LD the chance.


I wonder what will happen if CJ vs LD in Semis or LD vs Bao in Semis and winner will face LCW.

[AlanY]

let see:

LD vs CJ: CJ will pay back all the favors LD gave to CJ so he can qualify the OG. It is a noble thing to do.

LD vs BCL: BCL is the runner-up specialist and he will not relinguish that crown:p

LD has no pressure because he knows he is their dahdee:p

Your use of numerical odds does not make your analysis more accuratethat wasn't intended as a numerial analysis but just a way to say that LD has a slight advantage over his teammates. if there are going to be a all chinese final that will definitelly be a free for all, the best man win.

[robin7]

History shows that LD is vulnerable during early rounds (before QF) where he can be beaten. But once he makes it to the finals, he is almost unbeatable.

There are two very likely outcomes for LD in Beijing: BEATEN EARLY OR WINNING THE FINALS.

[Dato A]

LIN DAN In mandarin sounds '0' (zero). Hopes that he will end up Beijing OG with ''LINDAN''.

[limsy]

with his zero...he win n of title this years...^^...

[llpjlau]

LIN DAN In mandarin sounds '0' (zero). Hopes that he will end up Beijing OG with ''LINDAN''.

i fancy him to win rather than some other players. LCW is my favourite, but apart from that, PG, LD and BCL are other faves. i prefer LD to players like PSH, SDK, CY, LHI etc.

[koo_fan]

History shows that LD is vulnerable during early rounds (before QF) where he can be beaten. But once he makes it to the finals, he is almost unbeatable.

There are two very likely outcomes for LD in Beijing: BEATEN EARLY OR WINNING THE FINALS.
It is an interesting theory.

But i think we have seen Lin dan in a diff part of himself.What can put Lin dan as a loser in final is when his team become not-too-supportive.
He is almost unbeatable in final when his surrounding is perfect.

[dood1234]

Damn, I saw Lin Dan in person in Jusco JB during the ABC week. Damn,that guy walk so damn fast....must be his footwork.
I'm tempted to throw a shuttlecock at his direction. Wonder if he will automatically do a jumpsmash.

But seriously....trying to list ppl who have beaten b4 is kinda limited.

Let's see, Boonsak, Ronald Susilo, Taufik, LCW, BCL, Chen Jin, Park Sun Hwan and Lee Hyun IL.

I still think he will win olympic gold.


You forgot to include Chen Hong (numerous times), Peter Gade (2006 China Masters semifinal) and Park Tae Seng (spelling?). I don't know if IBF/BWF still retain old record of Park Tae Seng vs Lin Dan but I clearly remember him beating Lin Dan once or twice.

[Sgbad]

You forgot to include Chen Hong (numerous times), Peter Gade (2006 China Masters semifinal) and Park Tae Seng (spelling?). I don't know if IBF/BWF still retain old record of Park Tae Seng vs Lin Dan but I clearly remember him beating Lin Dan once or twice.

I dont think players like CH, PG stands a chance against LD, the closest to LD i guess, will be the korean players.:)

[cooler]

LIN DAN In mandarin sounds '0' (zero). Hopes that he will end up Beijing OG with ''LINDAN''.that is pretty pathetic if that is only hope u have. Given all the injuries happening in the MAL team, u should save your energy 'hoping' for your players:rolleyes:

[Joyous]

LIN DAN In mandarin sounds '0' (zero). Hopes that he will end up Beijing OG with ''LINDAN''.

Shouldn't we HOPE well for people??

[CHOcobo]

retiring at age 23 i think is too early.

[xXazn_romeoXx]

as long as Lin "van" Dan can win gold with Xie Xing Feng, he'd never be lonely in the record books ;)

[cooler]

LIN DAN In mandarin sounds '0' (zero). Hopes that he will end up Beijing OG with ''LINDAN''.
in second life, Linden is currency. The betting money will be on Lindan:p

[Dato A]

No more lonely for lindan coz LCW is come in strongly.

[cooler]

No more lonely for lindan coz LCW is come in strongly.don't forget BCL and CJ could use some warm up matches before one of them meet his big brother LD in the final:p

[Dato A]

don't forget BCL and CJ could use some warm up matches before one of them meet his big brother LD in the final:p

But priority must give to LD, LYB will assure it.:D:D