TC/UC 2008 - May 12 - day 2

[samuel882]

Koo/Tan doesnt play as bad as many would think today....
Much more improve compare with yesterday's match against the ENG Pair...
KKK was as usual lethal in the net , while surprisingly, TBH is the one who making several unforced errors.

[epaphroditus]

If Danes manage to win over JAP....than its JAP...to meet with MAS in QF

Oooops! Trouble again for KKK/TBH.

[jasonmarc]

Hmm..Not an interesting game..:rolleyes:..Both pair look relax and want faster walk off the court..;):D

Really...?...but at least they played long enough for you to have a good look at LYD....right...? or U want it to be rubber...? :D:D:D

[Jessica]

Ya kah? KKK/TBH won very slim margin, scary also in 1st set. Or all look cool only.
Believe me...All look cool only..Both pair seem not in the game..:rolleyes:

[Noridayu]

If Danes manage to win over JAP....than its JAP...to meet with MAS in QF

Thank you. Let's see and hear Rexy comments on this game later. I believe that this should inspire Malaysia TC to play well. Well done,Malaysia!

[Jessica]

Really...?...but at least they played long enough for you to have a good look at LYD....right...? or U want it to be rubber...? :D:D:D
Right right..jason,u really understand me..LYD very cute ler..:p:p..

[waile]

Oooops! Trouble again for KKK/TBH.

haha, again totally agreed. prodigies of PJB... woo hoo... malaysia is in for a rough ride... if malaysia do win unscathed, i would be very happy...:D

[eaglehelang]

I bet they still want to win that MD. But, I would really expect Lee/Hong to be thrashed badly. Totally unexpected :eek::cool:

LYD/ Park beat Msia MD in qualifier leh. No not totally unexpected anymore, then yes, now nope. Dunno why, KKK/TBH give better fight when it's LYD/Jung like the one in ABC.

Taufik lost to Tanongsak that one I was very surprised

[Noridayu]

Koo/Tan doesnt play as bad as many would think today....
Much more improve compare with yesterday's match against the ENG Pair...
KKK was as usual lethal in the net , while surprisingly, TBH is the one who making several unforced errors.

Good to hear that. I hope that they will win Olahragawan Negara tomorrow.

[samuel882]

I bet they still want to win that MD. But, I would really expect Lee/Hong to be thrashed badly. Totally unexpected :eek::cool:
And who would've expected the reigning world champs MK/HS to lost against the Germany's second pair too in the first game ?;)

[chin511]

Oooops! Trouble again for KKK/TBH.
I think so too..the Japanese are not easy to be beated!!

[Jessica]

I just hope the defeat of uncles Choong/Lee won't bring any effect to them..They are badly needed to contribute the points when facing China later..

[badMania]

DEN wins its second pt after Joachim Person beat Sho Sasaki in straight sets. DEN 2 JPN 1.

[waile]

LYD/ Park beat Msia MD in qualifier leh. No not totally unexpected anymore, then yes, now nope. Dunno why, KKK/TBH give better fight when it's LYD/Jung like the one in ABC.

Taufik lost to Tanongsak that one I was very surprised

taufik is not in top form??

[Noridayu]

DEN wins its second pt after Joachim Person beat Sho Sasaki in straight sets. DEN 2 JPN 1.

Thank you. I am now anxious to know my opponent in QF.

[eaglehelang]

Koo/Tan doesnt play as bad as many would think today....
Much more improve compare with yesterday's match against the ENG Pair...
KKK was as usual lethal in the net , while surprisingly, TBH is the one who making several unforced errors.

Surprise kah? Quite expected for me. Maybe pain in his foot still bothering TBH

[epaphroditus]

haha, again totally agreed. prodigies of PJB... woo hoo... malaysia is in for a rough ride... if malaysia do win unscathed, i would be very happy...:D

I guess the Korean (counted PJB too) always have the right doubles' formula when they play against M'sia doubles.

[waile]

Peter Gade Christensen also getting old... most of the danish players are like quite experienced ones but time and youth r not on their side.

[Noridayu]

taufik is not in top form??

I think that KKK and TBH want to win it as it is a match that will bring confident in them.

[jasonmarc]

Surprise kah? Quite expected for me. Maybe pain in his foot still bothering TBH

But YKH still wanted him to play.......:mad:

[waile]

Thank you. I am now anxious to know my opponent in QF.

your opponent, noridayu? hehe... what r u playing? first singles:P

[xymaerts]

Not to worry, as MAS will do a clean sweep on MS.. This is already enough...

I think so too..the Japanese are not easy to be beated!!

[epaphroditus]

I just hope the defeat of uncles Choong/Lee won't bring any effect to them..They are badly needed to contribute the points when facing China later..

Well, M'sia need to deal with Japanese first :D

[nmy3889]

kkk and tbh looked very down after their win...they feel fooled by korea team line up? anyone will also feel annoyed looking at such silly line ups...

[kuai_chai]

i don't understand why Kor are not fielding their best singles and doubles :o
now they lost to mas and eng, do they still qualify??

[Noridayu]

your opponent, noridayu? hehe... what r u playing? first singles:P

No, I am not playing but Malaysia opponent is my opponent as I stand strong behind this team which I supported for 20 years.

[epaphroditus]

Not to worry, as MAS will do a clean sweep on MS.. This is already enough...


Well, don't place too much hope on WCH & HH :D. The Japanese could steal 1 single and 2 doubles from M'sia.

[jasonmarc]

i don't understand why Kor are not fielding their best singles and doubles :o
now they lost to mas and eng, do they still qualify??

This is what KOR purposely plan for...to avoid Chn in Semi Final...:cool:

[waile]

i don't understand why Kor are not fielding their best singles and doubles :o
now they lost to mas and eng, do they still qualify??

IMHO, i think its due to the fact that we have only 3 teams in our group? coz the 3rd ranked team gets to play in elimination round... hehe... like the amazing race, thomas cup edition:P

[Noridayu]

kkk and tbh looked very down after their win...they feel fooled by korea team line up? anyone will also feel annoyed looking at such silly line ups...

Yes, I hope that Korea field their best players so that we will able to know which team is the best?

[eaglehelang]

i don't understand why Kor are not fielding their best singles and doubles :o
now they lost to mas and eng, do they still qualify??

LOL, another one. YES, they do. THey purposely lose to get easier path to Semi Finals. So that they wouldnt meet Indonesia in QF. If 2nd in group meet Indonesia in QF. If 1st, meet Denmark/Japan in QF, China in Semi F

[Noridayu]

LOL, another one. YES, they do. THey purposely lose to get easier path to Semi Finals. So that they wouldnt meet Indonesia in QF. If 2nd in group meet Indonesia in QF. If 1st, meet Denmark/Japan in QF, China in Semi F

Yes, I agreed with you.

[epaphroditus]

IMHO, i think its due to the fact that we have only 3 teams in our group? coz the 3rd ranked team gets to play in elimination round... hehe... like the amazing race, thomas cup edition:P

So, all teams in groups will move on. What is the purpose of playing in the group? Strategic play to avoid their next opponents?

[Jessica]

Now the crucial MD match between Japan and Denmark..Lets see who will win..

[eaglehelang]

I just hope the defeat of uncles Choong/Lee won't bring any effect to them..They are badly needed to contribute the points when facing China later..

Uncles not in good form for this TC. Maybe should field Fuzzy or switch pairs around.

Btw, KKK/TBH got look down meh, after match like nmy3889 said??

[waile]

So, all teams in groups will move on. What is the purpose of playing in the group? Strategic play to avoid their next opponents?

haha... seriously i think u oughta ask that question to the organisers:P

[Jessica]

Uncles not in good form for this TC. Maybe should field Fuzzy or switch pairs around.

Btw, KKK/TBH got look down meh, after match like nmy3889 said??
Actually i don't feel they look sad..:rolleyes:..They look normal..;)

[Noridayu]

So, all teams in groups will move on. What is the purpose of playing in the group? Strategic play to avoid their next opponents?

I think it is better to stick to the old system with only champion and runner-up will be able to play in QF instead of the playoffs. Team can easily plan strategy in order to qualify i the easiest way.

[epaphroditus]

Uncles not in good form for this TC. Maybe should field Fuzzy or switch pairs around.

Btw, KKK/TBH got look down meh, after match like nmy3889 said??

Ya, perhaps they found out they next opponent is likely the Japanese :crying:

[waile]

I think it is better to stick to the old system with only champion and runner-up will be able to play in QF instead of the playoffs. Team can easily plan strategy in order to qualify i the easiest way.

at the end of the day, for the organisers... revenues are important too... this way, there are more matches... more speculations, more viewers... generate more money... look at the changes in table tennis, tennis and squash... all in the interest of $$$:D

[demolidor]

And who would've expected the reigning world champs MK/HS to lost against the Germany's second pair too in the first game ?;)

:D Why not?? They beat Eriksen/Lundgaard in 30 minutes in the Thomas Cup qualification :p http://www.toernooi.nl/sport/player.aspx?id=18141&player=411

[eaglehelang]

Ya, perhaps they found out they next opponent is likely the Japanese :crying:

It might not be them playing mah, maybe Fuzzy

[nmy3889]

they dint even show abit of relief in their face...its like a win but still have many problems to overcome...tbh's service has problem today??so many service faults...

[tenggk]

Finally I got my answer after a dragging long pages of actions... :D


LOL, another one. YES, they do. THey purposely lose to get easier path to Semi Finals. So that they wouldnt meet Indonesia in QF. If 2nd in group meet Indonesia in QF. If 1st, meet Denmark/Japan in QF, China in Semi F


So, all teams in groups will move on. What is the purpose of playing in the group? Strategic play to avoid their next opponents?

[waile]

:D Why not?? They beat Eriksen/Lundgaard in 30 minutes in the Thomas Cup qualification :p http://www.toernooi.nl/sport/player.aspx?id=18141&player=411

the german pair is quite good, esp roman spitko...

[epaphroditus]

It might not be them playing mah, maybe Fuzzy

Good point! I think Rexy should fill in Fuzzy as 2nd doubles against Japanese.

[waile]

Finally I got my answer after a dragging long pages of actions... :D

then next time, u shld follow from page 1 in the beginning:P

[waile]

Good point! I think Rexy should fill in Fuzzy as 2nd doubles against Japanese.

would YKH agree to it? he is a very safe coach... not too much of a tactician:P sorry to say that.

[eaglehelang]

Good point! I think Rexy should fill in Fuzzy as 2nd doubles against Japanese.

Uncles have good record against Japanese. I'm thinking Zakry & KKK. TBH is not at his best, Fairuz is.... gets fuzzy, so one half of one pair.

[waile]

now, we still need to wait for the jap-den result... btw, i think malaysia gets an extra day off right? only those certain teams need to fight out the remaining quarter-final berths...

[eaglehelang]

would TKH agree to it? he is a very safe coach... not too much of a tactician:P sorry to say that.

Tan Kim Her is with England ;):p.

Rexy makes decision abt doubles, so far, he decides, Yap follow along.

[epaphroditus]

Uncles have good record against Japanese. I'm thinking Zakry & KKK. TBH is not at his best, Fairuz is.... gets fuzzy, so one half of one pair.

Great idea! Would you call Rexy & TKH :D and let them know?

[waile]

Tan Kim Her is with England ;):p.

Rexy makes decision abt doubles, so far, he decides, Yap follow along.

hehe... sorry my bad... got his surname wrong. geez... btw even if japanese lose this tie, they need to beat germany tomorrow to meet malaysia in the quarters...

[eaglehelang]

Great idea! Would you call Rexy & TKH :D and let them know?

hiyaaa, you also. Yap. Tan Kim Her = TKH is with England.
Yap Kim Hock is chief coach. No need call one - Badmania!!, ask Huang to read this pg & relay msg to Rexy. :D. Done.

[Jessica]

Uncles have good record against Japanese. I'm thinking Zakry & KKK. TBH is not at his best, Fairuz is.... gets fuzzy, so one half of one pair.
But do you think our super safe chief coach YKH will think like us???:D:D

[waile]

however, malaysia is playing japanese team in UC tmrw... to earn the right to play korea in quarters...

[epaphroditus]

hiyaaa, you also. Yap. Tan Kim Her = TKH is with England.
Yap Kim Hock is chief coach. No need call one - Badmania!!, ask Huang to read this pg & relay msg to Rexy. :D. Done.

Sorry lah! I was just following waile quote. Old man typing too fast!

[waile]

But do you think our super safe chief coach YKH will think like us???:D:D

highly unlikely... our coaches' thinking cap is too conservative... not like HTK... amazing coach.:p

[waile]

Sorry lah! I was just following waile quote. Old man typing too fast!

hehe... how old are u btw?:D

[jasonmarc]

Uncles not in good form for this TC. Maybe should field Fuzzy or switch pairs around.

Btw, KKK/TBH got look down meh, after match like nmy3889 said??

Jess...surely didnt noticed that....she was busy looking at LYD mah....:D:D

I think they just dont want to show any impression on their face..........remember...this JR of Danes said before.....TBH is showing every in his face........so they have learned to not to show it on their face....:D:D

[eaglehelang]

But do you think our super safe chief coach YKH will think like us???:D:D

I mean Rexy, Rexy is doubles coach. If I remember correct, in 2006, he fielded CCM/KKK as 1st MD, Uncles as 2nd MD. Correct move, Msia won both MD but lost in MS. Rexy did mention to press he might 'tweak' with the pairs.

Rexy will take risk one - KKK/TBH was a big risk in AG 2006.

But if like waile says, but some miracle Germany wins against Japan/Denmark.....Msia meet Germany in QF, he he he

[epaphroditus]

hehe... how old are u btw?:D

Older than YKH :D

[waile]

I mean Rexy, Rexy is doubles coach. If I remember correct, in 2006, he fielded CCM/KKK as 1st MD, Uncles as 2nd MD. Correct move, Msia won both MD but lost in MS. Rexy did mention to press he might 'tweak' with the pairs.

Rexy will take risk one - KKK/TBH was a big risk in AG 2006.

But if like waile says, but some miracle Germany wins against Japan/Denmark.....Msia meet Germany in QF, he he he

im keeping my fingers crossed...:p

[epaphroditus]

It looks like Japanese have a chance to upset Denmark. So, Msia Quarter Final opponent might be Denmark?

[waile]

Older than YKH :D

how old is YKH anyway, i also dunno...haha

[epaphroditus]

im keeping my fingers crossed...:p

Crossed to hope M'sia plays Germany in the Qtr?

[Jessica]

Jess...surely didnt noticed that....she was busy looking at LYD mah....:D:D

I think they just dont want to show any impression on their face..........remember...this JR of Danes said before.....TBH is showing every in his face........so they have learned to not to show it on their face....:D:DHey Jason,don't be naughty har..Althought i admit that i busy looking at LYD..:D;)

[waile]

It looks like Japanese have a chance to upset Denmark. So, Msia Quarter Final opponent might be Denmark?
again if denmark beat germany...

[Loh]

badMania..Too bad YKH and Rexy can hear us..Sigh..:rolleyes::rolleyes::(

Well, although I think the line-up can't be revealed in advance as both teams will normally have to submit together and the line-up disclosed at the same time so as not to allow changes, the Malaysian side could have selected a "weaker" team if they intend to lose and meet up with a weaker team later.

In this sense Korea have succeeded in achieving their goal while Malaysia have failed.

Now Malaysia have to play their best to move into the next round. Hopefully their players will have that strength and stamina to outlast the harder matches to come.

[waile]

Crossed to hope M'sia plays Germany in the Qtr?

i hope malaysia will beat all her opponents... are u malaysian?

[epaphroditus]

i hope malaysia will beat all her opponents... are u malaysian?

Yes, old Malaysia in US.

[waile]

Well, although I think the line-up can't be revealed in advance as both teams will normally have to submit together and the line-up disclosed at the same time so as not to allow changes, the Malaysian side could have selected a "weaker" team if they intend to lose and meet up with a weaker team later.

In this sense Korea have succeeded in achieving their goal while Malaysia have failed.

Now Malaysia have to play their best to move into the next round. Hopefully their players will have that strength and stamina to outlast the harder matches to come.

i think malaysia has never intended to play all these tactical games simply the reason being, our coaches are not good at all the mind games... that my humble opinion...

[extremenanopowe]

hmmm... what happened to all the ladies today ah??? My lady lost. They also lost. Suay lah...

[eaglehelang]

Jess...surely didnt noticed that....she was busy looking at LYD mah....:D:D

I think they just dont want to show any impression on their face..........remember...this JR of Danes said before.....TBH is showing every in his face........so they have learned to not to show it on their face....:D:D

he he Jason so naughty


It looks like Japanese have a chance to upset Denmark. So, Msia Quarter Final opponent might be Denmark?

Yup, winner of Japan vs Denmark will met Germany tomm. Winner of Japan/Denmark vs Germany will meet Msia. But % of Germany winning over either Japan/Denmark less than 30% me thinks.

[waile]

hmmm... what happened to all the ladies today ah??? My lady lost. They also lost. Suay lah...

assuming ure lady is Lady Wong Mew Choo...

[Jessica]

Well, although I think the line-up can't be revealed in advance as both teams will normally have to submit together and the line-up disclosed at the same time so as not to allow changes, the Malaysian side could have selected a "weaker" team if they intend to lose and meet up with a weaker team later.

In this sense Korea have succeeded in achieving their goal while Malaysia have failed.

Now Malaysia have to play their best to move into the next round. Hopefully their players will have that strength and stamina to outlast the harder matches to come.
Uncle Loh..Help me to cheer for Mas team when you in Jakarta ok..:p:p

[samuel882]

Gambateh ! Ninja Power !

[jasonmarc]

assuming ure lady is Lady Wong Mew Choo...

Julia Wong...maybe...?;)

[epaphroditus]

i think malaysia has never intended to play all these tactical games simply the reason being, our coaches are not good at all the mind games... that my humble opinion...

Agreed! I like the way that Malaysian is filling their strongest line up against their opponents. If they strategically try to avoid their next opponents, it will plant "kiasu" mentally in them. I support all out and win the title!

[jasonmarc]

This JAP 2nd MD have improve so much........a tigh game with ML/JE

[eaglehelang]

Well, although I think the line-up can't be revealed in advance as both teams will normally have to submit together and the line-up disclosed at the same time so as not to allow changes, the Malaysian side could have selected a "weaker" team if they intend to lose and meet up with a weaker team later.

In this sense Korea have succeeded in achieving their goal while Malaysia have failed.

Now Malaysia have to play their best to move into the next round. Hopefully their players will have that strength and stamina to outlast the harder matches to come.

It was never Msia's strategy to lose to both England & Korea. They already told the media, they want to win group tie, & win defending champs China in Semi. If lose, wouldnt lose face.

They dont want to come in 2nd in group, then meet Indonesia in QF.
Korea, have decided to be the one to lose all for easier path to Semis. Msia would not do that, trust me, there'll loads of questions from NSC, Sports Minister if they do that.

[epaphroditus]

he he Jason so naughty



Yup, winner of Japan vs Denmark will met Germany tomm. Winner of Japan/Denmark vs Germany will meet Msia. But % of Germany winning over either Japan/Denmark less than 30% me thinks.

I simply think chances of Germany to beat Jap/Den is 0% :cool:

[jasonmarc]

Agreed! I like the way that Malaysian is filling their strongest line up against their opponents. If they strategically try to avoid their next opponents, it will plant "kiasu" mentally in them. I support all out and win the title!

Me too,.....play to win.....and to win champion U have to win who ever you meet......sooner or later....:p

[waile]

It was never Msia's strategy to lose to both England & Korea. They already told the media, they want to win group tie, & win defending champs China in Semi. If lose, wouldnt lose face.

They dont want to come in 2nd in group, then meet Indonesia in QF.
Korea, have decided to be the one to lose all for easier path to Semis. Msia would not do that, trust me, there'll loads of questions from NSC, Sports Minister if they do that.

its matter of face value... hehe....

[eaglehelang]

Me too,.....play to win.....and to win champion U have to win who ever you meet......sooner or later....:p

Hmmm, that sounds like a quote from WCH or LCW :cool:

[epaphroditus]

Me too,.....play to win.....and to win champion U have to win who ever you meet......sooner or later....:p

Yup, win and walk tall or loose and walk tall too..............

[badMania]

Yup, winner of Japan vs Denmark will met Germany tomm. Winner of Japan/Denmark vs Germany will meet Msia. But % of Germany winning over either Japan/Denmark less than 30% me thinks.

That should be the loser of JPN vs DEN.

[eaglehelang]

Meanwhile Denmark uncles leading Japan semi -uncles in 2nd set 17-15

[eaglehelang]

That should be the loser of JPN vs DEN.

Ya kah? You better at this. Did you pass the mssg to Huang?
Read 2 pgs back

[samuel882]

Come on BOTAK Masuda !

[jasonmarc]

Hmmm, that sounds like a quote from WCH or LCW :cool:

Yup, their words inspired me....hehehehe:D

[jasonmarc]

Mean while,...the live score....like stuck again...

[eaglehelang]

Hiyaaa, again livescore stuck at 11 pm Msia time. They offline or what?

[waile]

Meanwhile Denmark uncles leading Japan semi -uncles in 2nd set 17-15

haha... i like this quote...uncles versus semi uncles... like god vs demi gods...

[jasonmarc]

Ya kah? You better at this. Did you pass the mssg to Huang?
Read 2 pgs back

Badmania is right.....the loser will meet Ger....than MAS in QF:cool:

[badMania]

the german pair is quite good, esp roman spitko...

GER is known for its tricky double pairs, same like POL.
Kristof Hopp/Ingo Kindervater won the Russian Open last year, after beating Shuichi Sakamoto/Shintaro Ikeda in the Final.

Roman Spitko/Michael Fuchs and Michal Logosz/Robert Mateusiak have also beaten Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi in a number of occassions in 2006 & 2007.

[eaglehelang]

haha... i like this quote...uncles versus semi uncles... like god vs demi gods...

JE/ML are dubbed "old men of badminton" should be "old uncles"
Othsuka/Masuda are 28 & 29 y.o. Below 30 I call semi-uncle

So : old uncles vs Semi uncles

[badMania]

Still a tight match between Eriksen/Hansen and Ohtsuka/Masuda, after Eriksen/Hansen just took the second set narrowly 22-20.

[abedeng]

And they are now leading 7-5 in the 3rd.

Hope they have enough gas.

[robin7]

OMG, JPN MD2 wasted a match pt...

JPN MD2 11-9 up...

[robin7]

Nihon, gambate!!!

[waile]

tai hen desu ne...

[waile]

semua sudah tidur??

[robin7]

OMG, DEN uncles regain the lead 16-15 from 12-15 down...

[abedeng]

18-18 a battle of nerves.

[robin7]

15-all
16-all
17-all
18-all
19-all

[abedeng]

At 19-19, the next rally determines matchpoint!!

[samuel882]

Whoever lost this match will benefit for the MAS team in QF

[robin7]

20-all

1 match pt saved by JPN...

[abedeng]

Lundgaard's serve must have been loose, 20-20.

Uncles on 2nd matchpoint, 21-20.

Again saved by Japanese warriors, 21-21

[abedeng]

3rd matchpoint and Lundgaard to serve again.

[robin7]

3rd match pt for the DEN...

[badadum]

Whew....good job Great Aging Danes :)

[abedeng]

Denmark qualifies for q-finals, 23-21.

[demolidor]

23-21 Kom så Danmark! :p

[abedeng]

Unlike the Uber Cup, the Thomas Cup goes to form.

All 4 seeds go thru to the q-finals.

[eaglehelang]

Denmark qualifies for q-finals, 23-21.

Wow, the old men of badminton show they still got what it takes in crucial pts

[badMania]

Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen won the match in the narrowest of margin 17-21, 22-20, 23-21. DEN 3 JPN 1.

[badMania]

So, the QF lineup is likely to be:
INA vs ENG*
CHN vs THA*
KOR* vs DEN
MAS vs JPN*

Playoffs:
ENG vs NGR
THA vs NZL
JPN vs GER
KOR vs CAN

[Dreamzz]

yeah, the JPN team prove that they might be able to pull off an upset if anyone takes them too lightly.

[limsy]

are the rising star battling now???...i didnt open tournamentsoftware live score...lazy...

[badMania]

yeah, the JPN team prove that they might be able to pull off an upset if anyone takes them too lightly.

Their doubles are really turning to be a force of their own these days under Park Joo Bong. Even INA pairs will find it difficult to beat Sakamoto/Ikeda and Ohtsuka/Masuda, like the DEN veteran pairs experienced today in 2 titanic battles.

[eaglehelang]

are the rising star battling now???...i didnt open tournamentsoftware live score...lazy...

Japan decided it's better to save energy for tomm. Denmark lead 11-3

[Dreamzz]

Their doubles are really turning to be a force of their own these days under Park Joo Bong. Even INA pairs will find it difficult to beat Sakamoto/Ikeda and Ohtsuka/Masuda, like the DEN veteran pairs experienced today in 2 titanic battles.

yeah, you can always depend on the legend to inspire a new generation of doubles stars. i suspect MAS will have a tough time in the QF.

[demolidor]

Japan decided it's better to save energy for tomm. Denmark lead 11-3

And what better way than to forfeit ;). Match over 21-13 + give up ...

edit: Tago is writen in bold letters so Jorgensen gave up then(?)...

[limsy]

indonesian team is super rubbish :) go malaysia go!

wow wow...dont be so offencesive...

[badMania]

And what better way than to forfeit ;). Match over 21-13 + give up ...

edit: Tago is writen in bold letters so Jorgensen gave up then(?)...

Smart move by Tago.

[reiko80]

the important is my mighty LCW is back on track..................

[limsy]

har???...did i been foolished by someone???...

[demolidor]

Smart move by Tago.

Very smart indeed ;) I wish I could make my opponents give up whenever I feel like it :cool:. (read it more carefully)

[eaglehelang]

And what better way than to forfeit ;). Match over 21-13 + give up ...

edit: Tago is writen in bold letters so Jorgensen gave up then(?)...

Tomm Japan have match at 1 pm Indonesia time. Might as well go back hotel to rest.

[snasirin]

semua sudah tidur??

speak english please ... :eek:

[limsy]

day one end...new thread please...

[badMania]

Very smart indeed ;) I wish I could make my opponents give up whenever I feel like it :cool:. (read it more carefully)

He actually made Jan O Jorgensen gave up :D So, DEN probably wants to save Jan from being too exposed to potential opponents (eg: KOR or INA)?

Even DEN still can have a little trick up its sleeves once they know the match was over.

[snasirin]

lets dream that england will win the cup...

[demolidor]

lets dream that england will win the cup...

let's dream you make more sense tomorrow ... :rolleyes:
indonesia sucks, go malaysia. malaysia goes home after qf, nigeria for the win, japan sucks, england for the cup ... jibberish :p havin' a sunstroke already have ya

[reiko80]

LCW can't play anymore ... he is too busy with wong mew choo ...
no..........hes right back on track now................can beat even lin dan now:D:D:D

[limsy]

hmm...who is this snasirin??? anyone know about her/him??? i am new...so know nothing about this people...

[limsy]

let's dream you make more sense tomorrow ... :rolleyes:
indonesia sucks, go malaysia. malaysia goes home after qf, nigeria for the win, japan sucks, england for the cup ... jibberish :p havin' a sunstroke already have ya

ya...i will dream that he/she was not drunk when making a post...peace

[pauline]

err,anyone noticed that INA fans were actually booing M'sian players during M'sia vs Korea??

[Qidong]

Anyone know what happened to the China-Germany Uber cup match. Wei/Zhang beat Piotrowski/Michaela Peiffer 21-0 21-0 and Bott/Schnasse beat Gao/Zhao 21-0 21-0 from tournamentsoftware. The chance of Bott/Schnasse beating Gao/Zhao 21-0 21-0 is probably less than the chance I will win the super lotto. It may be been discussed in this thread but there are 78 pages to go through. :)

[eaglehelang]

Qidong, from what I see, WD2 didnt play at all. China just gave up the match. You can see no duration of match.

WD1 played for 11 minutes, I think only 1st game, then Germany gave up the match since China already won.

[ye333]

I heard that both 0,0 matches are walk-over s.

Just read that at the start of the 4th match (1st WD), the lamp fell. So the two matches (1st WD, 2nd WD) cannot be played.


Anyone know what happened to the China-Germany Uber cup match. Wei/Zhang beat Piotrowski/Michaela Peiffer 21-0 21-0 and Bott/Schnasse beat Gao/Zhao 21-0 21-0 from tournamentsoftware. The chance of Bott/Schnasse beating Gao/Zhao 21-0 21-0 is probably less than the chance I will win the super lotto. It may be been discussed in this thread but there are 78 pages to go through. :)

[Qidong]

Qidong, from what I see, WD2 didnt play at all. China just gave up the match. You can see no duration of match.

WD1 played for 11 minutes, I think only 1st game, then Germany gave up the match since China already won.



I heard that both 0,0 matches are walk-over s.

I see. Thanks.

[robin7]

Potential QF line-ups:
CHN vs THA* - A free pass to SF for the defending champion
MAS vs JPN* - A tough match for MAS
KOR* vs DEN - This is the most anticipated QF match as KOR managed to have chosen its QF opponent.
INA vs ENG* - Another free pass to SF for the host

Playoffs:
* ENG vs NGR
* THA vs NZL
* JPN vs GER
* KOR vs CAN

[ye333]

China has obvious advantage. But "free pass" is exaggerating.

Thailand can put hope in BP, their MDs (in particular 2nd MD) and this new guy who beat TH (this guy must play 3rd MS as he did when facing Germany as I don't think he has any chance beating BCL ) -- if this guy is young, fast/agile and powerful, then bingo! He has chance to beat CJ ("Underdogs" that beat CJ: Kendrick Lee is young and powerful, the MAS youngster is young and fast). Also don't forget that BP, who beat CJ easily twice in 2007, can share his knowledge on how to beat CJ.


Potential QF line-ups:
CHN vs THA* - A free pass to SF for the defending champion
MAS vs JPN* - A tough match for MAS
KOR* vs DEN - This is the most anticipated QF match as KOR managed to have chosen its QF opponent.
INA vs ENG* - Another free pass to SF for the host

Playoffs:
* ENG vs NGR
* THA vs NZL
* JPN vs GER
* KOR vs CAN

[ctjcad]

..yep, just went through the rest of the 78 pages of this thread (was knocked out last night):p.....And yay, the BC server actually held up!!:) :cool:;)

Hmm, problem with telkom as official ISP of TUC 2008. Gosh! Something wrong with TUC organizer this time such as no official website, ticket chaos, internet down regularly. It seems they're not well-organized, I came to Istora yesterday and witnessed it.

That's poor preparation for such a prestigious event.
Do you know if anyone at the stadium is trying to fix the internet connection?

oH oH.. We havent brought the ticket yet.. Now. we might end up flying all the way to INA and denied an entries to the stadium :o

don scared me.................................:crying:
..a few reasons why a trip to INA to watch this TC & UC was not something i personally look fw to.:p Add to that do they even have the tournament's official logo, like 2 yrs ago?? Anyway, wishing you guys, going to INA, a wonderful time and be able to get your tix, nonetheless!.:cool:
As for fixing the internet connection at the Senayan hall, too bad our Hau-ge is not a hardware technician...;)

The match stop because something drop down from the ceiling..I think is glasses and they have to sweep it from the court..

there's glass all over the court.
according to commentator.

they use vacuum to remove them

What? Something fell from the ceiling? You must be joking :eek:

is it glass dropped down from the ceiling??? why the glass broken???

:eek::eek::eek:

Something drop down from the ceiling? What is that? How's the players, both ok or not?

This should not be allowed to take place as it will interrupt players momentum. Host nation to look closely to this matter.
..that's quite dangerous you know. Players could've been injured if larger shards of objects were to fall.:p Thankfully no one was hurt and the glass didn't fall to the spectators' area.:cool:

That Hui Lin is too fat for a young girl. You can literally see her fats swinging around her at the tummy (i won't call waist as she doesn't seem to have one) and her thigh when she hit the shuttle !
...

Errrr, in case you havent noticed, Hui Lin is the best WD among the youngsters - Goh LY, Woon Khe Wei, even KLRC's Haw. Not sure if she's better than Chong SC but her combo with Lim PS worked well during TC qualifiers. I think that was why she was chosen to partner Pek Siah in tie against Spore instead of Haw.
She's aggressive, good at attacking.

Ppl have also nicknamed CEH as "fatty bum bum" but she & WPT still our top WD for a number of years.
..:)..:D...maybe that's the reason why Hui Lin picked up badminton again..:p ;)

Yup, both MAS and JPN are seeded way too high for this Uber Cup. The Danes are European Champs, even Holland was a Uber Cup semifinalist last time around.
..uhm, if not mistaken, the Dutch's UC squad was the runners-up, 2 yrs ago, in JPN, losing to CHN.

I don't quite understand....Korea has the best chance to beat China out of all other countries,they should be confident with themselves...
ah well,strategy.....
haha,last time was LYD,now it's HJM playing singles..
...i guess they prefer to play an extra tie (playoff), rather than to rest, win their QF tie and face CHN (or INA).:p

so, they think denmark will be easy? right, let's pray that denmark will give them a 5-0 trashing.

Playing Denmark in the QF should be easier than playing INA in front of the home crowd in the QF.
..not necessarily. The home crowd, from now on, might cheer for teams playing against KOR. If Korea should advance to the QF round, which i believe they should, the crowd might cheer on the Danes to pull through to play INA in the Semis. It should be interesting to see which team(s) the home crowd will give its support to, if DEN meets KOR in the QF.:cool:

Don't worry about Korea strategy, to sneaky and crash for their own doing. All their doubles players will be too tired to play.
..yeah, interesting thought. Now, the Koreans have to play an extra tie before moving on to the QF round. I guess the Koreans will be relying on their ginseng, eh??...;) :cool:

[renly]

smart tactic for korean. to avoid CHN they need to move to the other side of the draw. they wont play CHN till the final. INA & DEN still same level with them

[d65up2]

err,anyone noticed that INA fans were actually booing M'sian players during M'sia vs Korea??

told u the political relation has not yet cool...VIVA Malaysian Airlines!! Best Airlines in the planet...

[madbad]

err,anyone noticed that INA fans were actually booing M'sian players during M'sia vs Korea??

Pretty much par for the course. They better learn to deal with it

[huangkwokhau]

Anyone know what happened to the China-Germany Uber cup match. Wei/Zhang beat Piotrowski/Michaela Peiffer 21-0 21-0 and Bott/Schnasse beat Gao/Zhao 21-0 21-0 from tournamentsoftware. The chance of Bott/Schnasse beating Gao/Zhao 21-0 21-0 is probably less than the chance I will win the super lotto. It may be been discussed in this thread but there are 78 pages to go through. :)
Actually it was a greed by 2 teams anyway...the accident happened when there were 2 photographers were up there to take the pictures and it caused the light bulb fell...thats all I know..

[robin7]

Actually it was a greed by 2 teams anyway...the accident happened when there were 2 photographers were up there to take the pictures and it caused the light bulb fell...thats all I know..
I hope ants is not one of them up there! :p

[taufik-ist]

China has obvious advantage. But "free pass" is exaggerating.

Thailand can put hope in BP, their MDs (in particular 2nd MD) and this new guy who beat TH (this guy must play 3rd MS as he did when facing Germany as I don't think he has any chance beating BCL ) -- if this guy is young, fast/agile and powerful, then bingo! He has chance to beat CJ ("Underdogs" that beat CJ: Kendrick Lee is young and powerful, the MAS youngster is young and fast). Also don't forget that BP, who beat CJ easily twice in 2007, can share his knowledge on how to beat CJ.

ya.. agree with you... Thai's TC is not a free pass.. i predict the the match between china and thai will be very tight :cool:

[byelnats]

err,anyone noticed that INA fans were actually booing M'sian players during M'sia vs Korea??

It is not surprising at all. INA and MAS hate each other guts especially in badminton. I think lots of INA fans are still upset over a few disputes between two countries. It sorts of carried on to the TC/UC tourney. Unfortunate, but unavoidable.

[taufik-ist]

It is not surprising at all. INA and MAS hate each other guts especially in badminton. I think lots of INA fans are still upset over a few disputes between two countries. It sorts of carried on to the TC/UC tourney. Unfortunate, but unavoidable.

rexy's factor is one of its reason... some people in indonesia still think rexy is a 'traitor'.. i remember when mia played in indonesia as a dutch player for the first time.. she got many booing .. :o

[abedeng]

It is not surprising at all. INA and MAS hate each other guts especially in badminton. I think lots of INA fans are still upset over a few disputes between two countries. It sorts of carried on to the TC/UC tourney. Unfortunate, but unavoidable.

In Malaysia at least, that is not true anymore. From 88 - 92 when I was still an active cheerleader, we had battles with the INA cheerleading squad, but it was always done in good spirit from both sides.

Last year at World Championships and a few weeks ago at the ABC, our cheerleading captain and INA's cheerleading captain in Malaysia even posed for pics together.

But players really need to experience this booing, if they can manage it, they'll become much better players when the going gets tough.

[jimbo]

rexy's factor is one of its reason... some people in indonesia still think rexy is a 'traitor'.. i remember when mia played in indonesia as a dutch player for the first time.. she got many booing .. :o

I think the word "traitor" is too heavy and inappropriate. He is a professional serving his service to an employer, be it Msia or Nigeria. So, pls dun call him a "traitor" ya :)

I can understand the "booing". Thats part of the business and it only makes the player stronger and mentally prepared for the hostile receptions. :)

[byelnats]

In Malaysia at least, that is not true anymore. From 88 - 92 when I was still an active cheerleader, we had battles with the INA cheerleading squad, but it was always done in good spirit from both sides.

Last year at World Championships and a few weeks ago at the ABC, our cheerleading captain and INA's cheerleading captain in Malaysia even posed for pics together.

But players really need to experience this booing, if they can manage it, they'll become much better players when the going gets tough.

True enough. One of the articles in the other thread blames INA fans for booing Malaysian players. Well, that is a given when you play in Istora Senayan. If players don't have enough mental toughness to stand the booing, they are going south pretty fast. Oh well, that is what makes Indonesia unique :cool:

[taufik-ist]

I think the word "traitor" is too heavy and inappropriate. He is a professional serving his service to an employer, be it Msia or Nigeria. So, pls dun call him a "traitor" ya :)

I can understand the "booing". Thats part of the business and it only makes the player stronger and mentally prepared for the hostile receptions. :)

dun worry ... fren :D.. we wont :D

[jimbo]

dun worry ... fren :D.. we wont :D

OK, u better "buck up", Mr.Taufik... :D Beat BCL and Gade but lose to uncle WCH :eek::D (just kidding)... Msia Boleh...!!! :p

[taufik-ist]

OK, u better "buck up", Mr.Taufik... :D Beat BCL and Gade but lose to uncle WCH :eek::D (just kidding)... Msia Boleh...!!! :p

ha..ha.. ya..ya see you in the final.. we will have words battle :D

... INDONESIA BISA... :p

[bugjan72]

True enough. One of the articles in the other thread blames INA fans for booing Malaysian players. Well, that is a given when you play in Istora Senayan. If players don't have enough mental toughness to stand the booing, they are going south pretty fast. Oh well, that is what makes Indonesia unique :cool:

100 % agree.
Players must be able to face any challenges, internal (his/her opponent) and external (supporter).
Misbun Sidek ever said few years ago ' You can not say you have good mental toughness if you never play in Istora Senayan':)

[Erwin Kyoto]

rexy's factor is one of its reason... some people in indonesia still think rexy is a 'traitor'.. i remember when mia played in indonesia as a dutch player for the first time.. she got many booing .. :o

also another reason...like current political and social issues between two countries; island/land in borderland, claim some folk arts, labour deportation...etc..

surely...mostly Ina people always keep our good relationship with malaysia...also in BC forum;):p...yeah..enjoy the badminton game, support our shuttlers and sharing many things here....etc..

[george@chongwei]

lee chong wei boleh!!!!:):)
malaysia boleh!!!!!:)

[abedeng]

Misbun Sidek ever said few years ago ' You can not say you have good mental toughness if you never play in Istora Senayan':)

A great "training ground", is Istora Senayan. :D Yup, Misbun and his two brothers (Razif/Jalani) benefited from the "training", all of 'em were World Championship medallists at Istora in '80 and '89 ......

Training for newbie supporters too ..... so Louisa, Jimbo and the young gang, u r in for a "thrilling" experience.

[jimbo]

Training for newbie supporters too ..... so Louisa, Jimbo and the young gang, u r in for a "thrilling" experience.

Dont worry abang deng... I'll bring along strepsils just in case i got sorethroat after shouting "Msia Boleh..!!!" :p

[pauline]

But players really need to experience this booing, if they can manage it, they'll become much better players when the going gets tough.
yes,and then the tough gets going.
LWW and CTF were a lil affected.....good thing they're fielded yeaterday...gonna manage it.