Korean Tc Team Done Their Tricks.....

[niepan]

Just think of the 2002 FIFA World Cup....

[madbad]

Final score: KOR 3 DEN 2
He who laughs last, laughs longest. KOR bashers, where are you now? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Krisna]

INA fans are very afraid of KOR.... Our Sony and Taufik are not in good form...

[niepan]

Koreans are afraid of INA too, otherwise why they wanted to be bottom? lol

[adammohamad]

MAS team can beat CHINA...with the rise of kean keat-tan fook

[Krisna]

Koreans are afraid of INA too, otherwise why they wanted to be bottom? lol

Ha ha ha... we're all like little kids then... so afraid of the unknown... :D

[yen_saw]

With home ground advantage, i hope INA can defeat Korea and end the Korea's master plan.

[badadum]

Afraid? Why afraid? Even on paper INA's as good as KOR if not better. Even if Sony and Taufik is shaky at this point we can still count on the 2 MDs and Simon to deliver the crucial tie.

Besides, PSH might be in good form (and yet beaten by a determined Peter Gade) but I doubt that's the case with LHI. He hasn't exactly been lighting it up since German Open.

[Wong8Egg]

Kor and Ina are pretty even on paper, this will be the most exciting head to head tomorrow.

[ye333]

I think the first two MS and the two MD are pretty evenly matched. Simon should be a safe point for INA though (if he has the chance to play). So INA has slight advantage.


Afraid? Why afraid? Even on paper INA's as good as KOR if not better. Even if Sony and Taufik is shaky at this point we can still count on the 2 MDs and Simon to deliver the crucial tie.

Besides, PSH might be in good form (and yet beaten by a determined Peter Gade) but I doubt that's the case with LHI. He hasn't exactly been lighting it up since German Open.

[BMcentral]

I think the odd still favors INA, given that sony and taufik doesn't play like crap. It happened during the INA vs JPN game, so it can happen again.

[Qidong]

I think the first two MS and the two MD are pretty evenly matched. Simon should be a safe point for INA though (if he has the chance to play). So INA has slight advantage.

Shon Sheung Mo won the last Olympic silver medal. He may be over his prime, but it is not easy for Simon to beat him. I would say INA's MS1, MS2 and MD2 are 51/49 and MD1 and MS3 are 49/51.

[ctjcad]

I think the odd still favors INA, given that sony and taufik doesn't play like crap. It happened during the INA vs JPN game, so it can happen again.
..INA vs. THA TC's group tie??..;)

[BMcentral]

..INA vs. THA TC's group tie??..;)
thank you for correcting me.

[ye333]

Simon has great footwork, decent racket skill and enough experience. On the other hand SSM relies on speed, power and smart play. SSM may do better facing one dimensional players but a complete and consistent Simon will have no difficulty controling him.


Shon Sheung Mo won the last Olympic silver medal. He may be over his prime, but it is not easy for Simon to beat him. I would say INA's MS1, MS2 and MD2 are 51/49 and MD1 and MS3 are 49/51.

[george@chongwei]

yesterday Jan O Jorgensen is like MAS Kuan beng hong during last 2 years TC:)

[ctjcad]

thank you for correcting me.
..no problem..:cool:

[markchan]

yesterday Jan O Jorgensen is like MAS Kuan beng hong during last 2 years TC:)

What goes around comes around....u better believe this saying...hehe :D

[markchan]

Simon has great footwork, decent racket skill and enough experience. On the other hand SSM relies on speed, power and smart play. SSM may do better facing one dimensional players but a complete and consistent Simon will have no difficulty controling him.

SSM was only "play acting" during the group matches. Yesterday he showed what he is capable of and with the koreans fighting spirit, it will indeed be great showdown with SS if the tie ever comes down to the MS3.

[Dato A]

MAS team can beat CHINA...with the rise of kean keat-tan fook


MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!:D:D

[dannytomato]

It does not matter Malaysia against which team in semi-final. If Malaysia is the champion, he will win. Just treat tomorrow's Malaysia-China match as exciting FINAL MATCH lol.....:D

[Dato A]

It does not matter Malaysia against which team in semi-final. If Malaysia is the champion, he will win. Just treat tomorrow's Malaysia-China match as exciting FINAL MATCH lol.....:D

Does matter my dear. If not, KOR will not have to do so much things.:D:D

[Dato A]

Because of their tricks, they reach final.

[yen_saw]

Actually Korea's trick almost get them ousted in quater final vs Denmark. They beated INA 3:0 in Semi but barely made it through facing Denmark. Korea should beat England and stay as 2nd in the group and face INA in quater final instead. Especially when INA already appear shaky barely winning the Thailand ties.

[george@chongwei]

Because of their tricks, they reach final.
they play very very smart!!!!
congrats to them!:):D

[madbad]

Actually Korea's trick almost get them ousted in quater final vs Denmark. They beated INA 3:0 in Semi but barely made it through facing Denmark. Korea should beat England and stay as 2nd in the group and face INA in quater final instead. Especially when INA already appear shaky barely winning the Thailand ties.

It's ridiculous for you to comment on their progress after the fact. Bottom line... look where they are now. Like you know what's better than their coaching staff... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[fukusami16]

Korea did a great job by doing that. But nevertheless as a professional, doing that is shameful by not daring to meet the opponenets..But whatever...congtas to them by entering the finals and hereby wish them for the thoams cup champion. Thank you

[samuel882]

Even if they do not play the tricks. They are still unstoppable

[Dato A]

Korea did a great job by doing that. But nevertheless as a professional, doing that is shameful by not daring to meet the opponenets..But whatever...congtas to them by entering the finals and hereby wish them for the thoams cup champion. Thank you

They have their own route to final.

Malaysia very professional but how?

It's the win of strategic. Shameful? put this word on KKK/TBH & Hafiz, this is more suitable.

[Dato A]

Even if they do not play the tricks. They are still unstoppable

Yes. U are correct!:D

[masjoko]

yeah.

Korea have no balls.

But they have brains.

[samuel882]

They have their own route to final.

Malaysia very professional but how?

It's the win of strategic. Shameful? put this word on KKK/TBH & Hafiz, this is more suitable.
Even though MAS lost, but they lost with pride. Nothing to be ashamed of, we lost to a technically superior team.

[masjoko]

Even though MAS lost, but they lost with pride. Nothing to be ashamed of, we lost to a technically superior team.

agreed. MAS dont lose 3-0 like INA.

[llpjlau]

They have their own route to final.

Malaysia very professional but how?

It's the win of strategic. Shameful? put this word on KKK/TBH & Hafiz, this is more suitable.

i think you're seeing the dot on the whiteboard instead of the whiteboard. malaysia still went to all 5 games.

[george@chongwei]

yeah.

Korea have no balls.

But they have brains.
u are really funny:):):D:D:D

[jasonmarc]

yeah.

Korea have no balls.

But they have brains.

Whats more important .....balls or....brains....??:D:D

[george@chongwei]

Whats more important .....balls or....brains....??:D:D
both la, jason:D:p:p

[Wong8Egg]

What's the big matter here? It is a team game and so team strategy applies. Korea has to play one extra match and I think that's fair for their doings.

It is like a dumb people blaming someone that is smarter for their failure in life?

[yen_saw]

It's ridiculous for you to comment on their progress after the fact. Bottom line... look where they are now. Like you know what's better than their coaching staff... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

You judge the results and predict score, what's wrong with that? Can't accept the fact that Ina lost badly in to Korea? No freedom of speech here? :eek:

[ants]

Whatever it is.. i'm rooting for Korea to win tomorrow.

[cooler]

Whats more important .....balls or....brains....??:D:Dthey do have balls but located in their head:eek::D:p:cool::)

cooler's war drum beat:p

[Wong8Egg]

they do have balls but located in their head:eek::D:p:cool::)

cooler's war drum beat:p

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek:
I don't want to imagine.

[madbad]

yeah.

Korea have no balls.

But they have brains.

Wrong! They had the balls to activate their brains. 'nuf said :cool:

[gargoyle]

Sportmanship also means play for win
But ..yeah.. they did their strategy smartly
Lose the battle but win the war

[george@chongwei]

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::p:)wah, everybody are talking about balls here???

[ctjcad]

What's the big matter here? It is a team game and so team strategy applies. Korea has to play one extra match and I think that's fair for their doings.

It is like a dumb people blaming someone that is smarter for their failure in life?
..it's more to do with the "dumb" system that has been implemented by the IBF/BWF. Anyone can tell me what other mainstream sports implement such playing/playoff system like this TC & UC's playing/playoff system (allowing a losing/winless team to qualify for the playoffs)??..:p
And for some reason, this week, Punch made a comment (apparently after a few of the team managers commented about the Korean's TC team's strategy), that BWF is thinking of amending the system????:eek::confused:..Punch, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL THESE YRS???...:confused: :p;)

[Qidong]

Korea may have reached the final. But I think most people will remember that it's Malaysia that nearly beat China. Same to Uber Cup, it's Netherland that almost broke the Chinese great wall. I think to badminton powerhouse like Indonesia and Malaysia, it's winning the champion or not, doesn't really matter it's final or semi-final.

[ye333]

Korea did OK. It's a good final.


Korea may have reached the final. But I think most people will remember that it's Malaysia that nearly beat China. Same to Uber Cup, it's Netherland that almost broke the Chinese great wall. I think to badminton powerhouse like Indonesia and Malaysia, it's winning the champion or not, doesn't really matter it's final or semi-final.

[ctjcad]

..KOR's last chance of doing their infamous strategy. Because if BWF decides to cut all the loose ends and amends this current TC & UC system, we might not see the KOR doing the same thing, again, in 2 yrs.
But knowing the KOR's penchant of trying to get the easiest possible way to reach their goal, if BWF does change the TC & UC's playing format, they'll probably figure out something else in order to avoid playing CHN, until the Final. Best of luck!;)

[wood_22_chuck]

Korea may have reached the final. But I think most people will remember that it's Malaysia that nearly beat China. Same to Uber Cup, it's Netherland that almost broke the Chinese great wall. I think to badminton powerhouse like Indonesia and Malaysia, it's winning the champion or not, doesn't really matter it's final or semi-final.

Oh I don't know. With it coming down to 3rd MS, to Hafiz vs. Chen Jin, the phrase " ... Malaysia that nearly beat China" is a little misleading.

If it was between LCW and Chen Jin, MS3, then that would really fill out that sentiment.

-dave

[wood_22_chuck]

..KOR's last chance of doing their infamous strategy. Because if BWF decides to cut all the loose ends and amends this current TC & UC system, we might not see the KOR doing the same thing, again, in 2 yrs.
But knowing the KOR's penchant of trying to get the easiest possible way to reach their goal, if BWF does change the TC & UC's playing format, they'll probably figure out something else in order to avoid playing CHN, until the Final. Best of luck!;)

Do you feel the same animosity or strong feeling against CHN when they do the walk-overs, alleged feign injuries and what-not?

-dave

[ctjcad]

Do you feel the same animosity or strong feeling against CHN when they do the walk-overs, alleged feign injuries and what-not?

-dave
..it's not a feeling of "animosity" or "strong feeling" about KOR's penchant to use the same strategy. Just that i can't believe they are still doing it and BWF is still implementing the same system. Until this week, when Punch finally realized & thought otherwise.
As for the CHN's case, i'd say i also don't condone it (esp. over alleged feign injuries). I'm sure BWF is aware but what can I, you or anyone else do?? Has BWF or Punch said anything about resolving it??..:confused:

Anyway, as mentioned many times before, bottom line, blame the systems/loopholes; to an extent, the BWF. Until they figure out & tightened up their systems, i'm afraid we'll see the same thing happening in the future. If nothing is going to be changed, in either case, perhaps we should just get used to it.;)

[eaglehelang]

Oh I don't know. With it coming down to 3rd MS, to Hafiz vs. Chen Jin, the phrase " ... Malaysia that nearly beat China" is a little misleading.

If it was between LCW and Chen Jin, MS3, then that would really fill out that sentiment.

-dave

LCW as MS3 not possible to be played, LCW is MS1, ha ha
It was Hafiz vs injured Chen Jin, so possible, if Hafiz didnt freeze, unfortunately he frooze, even Misbun didnt understand it.
Or 4th MS was oldies like LTS, Roslin (Hafiz's older bro). Roslin is a cool cucumber, beat Bao Bao , dragging in-form Lin Dan to 3 sets. ROslin vs injured CJ, very possible since Roslin would be fresh, 1st match played.

Of course, there was the all important MD1, remember the speculation, if CTF have not fallen ill, or KKK/TBH had taken the 2nd pt..... that's why "so near yet so far"

[wood_22_chuck]

LCW as MS3 not possible to be played, LCW is MS1, ha ha
It was Hafiz vs injured Chen Jin, so possible, if Hafiz didnt freeze, unfortunately he frooze, even Misbun didnt understand it.
Or 4th MS was oldies like LTS, Roslin (Hafiz's older bro). Roslin is a cool cucumber, beat Bao Bao , dragging in-form Lin Dan to 3 sets. ROslin vs injured CJ, very possible since Roslin would be fresh, 1st match played.

Of course, there was the all important MD1, remember the speculation, if CTF have not fallen ill, or KKK/TBH had taken the 2nd pt..... that's why "so near yet so far"

I was responding to Qidong's speculation that "Malaysia nearly beat Korea." If we suspend belief and accept that it was tied 2-2 CHN-MAS, and it came down MS3 between LCW and Chen Jin, then, "Malaysia nearly beat Korea" or "Korea got beat," would be a strong statement.

Chen Jin, injured or not, I'd still rate him higher than Hafiz. Why? There was no enthusiasm in Hafiz at all, no fire, no desire. Heck even in absence of all that, MAS fans would still like to rely on a technically savvy Hafiz.

Chen Jin was technically consistent despite injury.

Hafiz was pathetic. Period.

-dave

[samuel882]

Lets get over it, since the MAS vs KOREA ties in group match is a donald duck match... Hence, there isnt any need to speculate for MAS vs KOREA with full strenght on who will win.
In KL TCUC Final 2010, we will see........

[flikflak]

So BWF has a plan to evaluate the current system as it offers possibility to fix/throw matches. Well, what really caused this? Are they receiving complaints? I think they should know from beginning that fixing matches are possible in round robin system.

Fixing matches might be a controversy and a bit unfair, but it provides some DRAMA though. lol. Just blame the system, not the Korean. I guess they might be not the only one who did the trick in the most obvious fashion.

[cooler]

looking back, it was korea's tactic (or trick by some people) that we got to see the true best 2 TC teams playing in the final instead of a china vs korea in the early rounds.

[samuel882]

Congrats for Korean to achieve their target of just making in the final of TC...

[cooler]

Congrats for Korean to achieve their target of just making in the final of TC...
but their target is realistic, not fantasy:D

[rwijaja]

The Korean need to come up with the new strategy...

How to avoid China in the Final :):)

It was a good though and could go either way.. but China was triumphant.

Congrats....

[CLELY]

At least KOR trick has created history here, to enter finale for the first time. Beat two favourites DEN and INA is an uphill task but they did it successfully!

[eaglehelang]

I was responding to Qidong's speculation that "Malaysia nearly beat Korea." If we suspend belief and accept that it was tied 2-2 CHN-MAS, and it came down MS3 between LCW and Chen Jin, then, "Malaysia nearly beat Korea" or "Korea got beat," would be a strong statement.

Chen Jin, injured or not, I'd still rate him higher than Hafiz. Why? There was no enthusiasm in Hafiz at all, no fire, no desire. Heck even in absence of all that, MAS fans would still like to rely on a technically savvy Hafiz.

Chen Jin was technically consistent despite injury.

Hafiz was pathetic. Period.

-dave

Errrrr, isnt it "Msia nearly beat China?"
I see. Of course CJ is higher than Msia MS3, CHen Jin is World No 4, all the other Msia MS are WR 18 and downwards. Compared to Hafiz, yes, Hafiz was <sigh>. His bro Roslin is better, in fighting spirit & mental strength, of WCH's era, fight to last point type.
That's why I said, with CJ injured, got some chance, with say uncle Roslin or fresh LTS.
And from what Yap KH said in the press, next edition in 2010, sounds like no more Hafiz.

[wood_22_chuck]

Sometimes my brains sneezes and I write KOR when I mean CHN. Having said all that, I really would've wished that Hafiz found the spark to jumpstart his game. After a thrilling high-energy game from Fairuz/Zakry, there was momentum to hang on to, as Fuzzy-pair handed the baton to the anchor, i.e. Hafiz.

-dave

[keymon231]

i have a question...what if mas win 1 lose 1...england win 1 lose 1...korea win 1 lose 1...than who will top the group??

Decided by score

[jimbo]

Sometimes my brains sneezes and I write KOR when I mean CHN. Having said all that, I really would've wished that Hafiz found the spark to jumpstart his game. After a thrilling high-energy game from Fairuz/Zakry, there was momentum to hang on to, as Fuzzy-pair handed the baton to the anchor, i.e. Hafiz.

-dave

The match between Msia n CHN was like running the 4x100m relay. CHN has Carl Lewis as anchor while Msia has "Uncle Loh" :eek::p

[keymon231]

OYYY!! Please mate some respect here??? INDON???? Wat the heck is dat we are not INDON ok...please mate be respectful is INA or Indo...please no saying Indon is offensive

So what with INDON? Why are you indon so double standard? Dont u indon call your chinese indonesian as CINA? thats also offensive and you dont give a damn. So why we have to show you respect since you dont even respect to your own countrymen?

Grow up indon, respect is not someting you ask from other. Earn it!