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Which match are you refering to? If any matchup and if it goes down the line and HH play the final game and win, technically he is the hero.

every player that represent Malaysia is my hero/heroine.......;)

no no no...i mean if...if...if malaysia vs any of denmark,china,korea,indonesia...do u all think he can win the final point if the tie was down to 2-2???...base on his preformance vs england and korea...

yes to all EXCEPT against China... not only HH, but most players as well...

Against:
Japan: Yes
Denmark: Probably
Korea: Probably
Indonesia: Toss up
China: Very Unlikely

Against:
Japan: Yes
Denmark: Probably
Korea: Probably
Indonesia: Toss up
China: Very Unlikely

i think he'll have trouble against simon who has home ground advantage, and against seung mo, hmmmm, tough call.

Victories over an English junior and a Korean doubles specialist is no yardstick of his current form. So far have not shown any yo yo signs yet. Against:Japan : probably; Denmark : probaly; Korea : probably; Indonesia : unlikely; China : Highly unlikely

hmm...to me...he is not yoyo...

i feel that he have found some thing...that lcw have...

i saw lcw style(i wonder...lcw with misbun in short time have good shape but hh spend so much time to found it???)in hh play...hmm...i felt...with more accurate and higher agility,he can bet chen jin...i think

Against:
Japan: Yes
Denmark: Probably
Korea: Probably
Indonesia: Toss up
China: Very Unlikely

Not agree with u. With Kenichi Tago's performance and HH's performance, I think Japan can get one point from MS3.
With Denmark, I think he can manage it.
Korea: Shon Sheung Mo have same problem with HH, IMO.
Indonesia: Hmmm..SS suppose to be can beat HH
China: well, very thin opportunity, but still possible. I saw CJ's performance today. He was not good as usual.

The question is very simple people. Will Hafiz considered a hero if he win when the Match will go down the line. Don't try to downplay or degrade HH here.

hmm...to me...he is not yoyo...

i feel that he have found some thing...that lcw have...

i saw lcw style(i wonder...lcw with misbun in short time have good shape but hh spend so much time to found it???)in hh play...hmm...i felt...with more accurate and higher agility,he can bet chen jin...i think

God, you're such a homer. The only thing HH and LCW may have in common is LCW's cell phone #

That said, whether HH beats other MS3 players depends on which HH shows up. On his day, I believe he can take Chen Jin (the highest of all MS3 players)

God, you're such a homer. The only thing HH and LCW may have in common is LCW's cell phone #

That said, whether HH beats other MS3 players depends on which HH shows up. On his day, I believe he can take Chen Jin (the highest of all MS3 players)

The only time I think Hafiz will be the decider is when we face China heading 2-2 tie won by MS1 and MD2 ... I think Hafiz is very capable to beat Chen Jin in team event if we really get that far. O-mi-tofu!

I think the question should read as...

Can Hafiz deliver the winning point when the score is tied at 2-2?

Against
JAPAN: 65%
KOREA: 60%
DENMARK: 55%
INDONESIA: 40% (with homeground support) :(
CHINA: 40% (with INA support) :D

if MAS vs china in the semi final, i dont think HH stand a chence but i think he can create an upset here..
vs chen jin...hmmm..

may the force be with HH................;)

he look too relax.. im not sure its how he played...

see his "wind" on tat day la.... wind good den good... no wind? den = to no WIN hahah :D

see his "wind" on tat day la.... wind good den good... no wind? den = to no WIN hahah :D

arlllooo young boy... inside stadium where got wind? u think TC held at "tepi sungai" meh? :rolleyes::p

don't really have faith on him....>_-

Come on Malaysian supporters......think positive...have faith with your team. To be a true champion, it doesn't matter who they play against...HH and the rest of the team just have to win if they want to bring the TC back to Malaysia!!!

Come on Malaysian supporters......think positive...have faith with your team. To be a true champion, it doesn't matter who they play against...HH and the rest of the team just have to win if they want to bring the TC back to Malaysia!!!
yup...
we s a supporter must always positive with our player...:)
keep support them whenever they win or loss...:)
hope to see HH who's won all england 2003 will be back sooner...:)

Yes, .. HH plays a big part in MAS UC team beating the JAPAN UC team yesterday. :D :D ... So maybe errr his confident is back :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

at least he's a better choice than Kuan Ben Hong...

come on guys,

Lets put our support behind Hafiz! He can do it!

Yes, .. HH plays a big part in MAS UC team beating the JAPAN UC team yesterday. :D :D ... So maybe errr his confident is back :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

.....so , who shall we send today?? :D:rolleyes::eek::D

come on guys,

Lets put our support behind Hafiz! He can do it!

Ya. yoyo can do it! Mr. Habis can do it!!

MALYSIA BOLEH!!:D:D

http://www.malaysiarecords.com.my/cate_MP_ITN.html#

Now after the score was tied 2-2 and Hafiz Hashim lost against Chen Jin again, i tend to say... no.

To me, Hafiz plays really well. I am please with his late come back in form. Hope he can continue & work hard to polish his skill & improve his physical condition..

Totally agreed!
at least he's a better choice than Kuan Ben Hong...

To me, Hafiz plays really well. I am please with his late come back in form. Hope he can continue & work hard to polish his skill & improve his physical condition..

You watched the game or not? Hafiz plays very well?

MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!:D:D

it's mistakes in today match...but...if he was the so called mr. yoyo today...the score will be 21-5 in both match...that the different...

To me, Hafiz plays really well. I am please with his late come back in form. Hope he can continue & work hard to polish his skill & improve his physical condition..

that in my mind...^^...

at least he's a better choice than Kuan Ben Hong...

c'mon lah, dont like gov, only compared to the worst one.

Compare with CJ, compare with SSM, compare with Simon lah my dear.

it's mistakes in today match...but...if he was the so called mr. yoyo today...the score will be 21-5 in both match...that the different...

The problem is not the skill or mistakes, it's his attitude and no spirits! No desire to win the match!

The problem is not the skill or mistakes, it's his attitude and no spirits! No desire to win the match!

u didnt get my word...if he has no spirit or attitude...it was 21-5,21-5...but now...it was 21-13,21-16(i not sure the score...)...saw the different and get my word???...yes...still not as good as i think of...atleast they are close until point 13...if hafiz have no mistake,we already in final...not no spirit...

u didnt get my word...if he has no spirit of attitude...it was 21-5,21-5...but now...it was 21-13,21-16(i not sure the score...)...saw the different and get my word???...yes...still not as good as i think of...atleast they are close until point 13...if hafiz have no mistake,we already in final...not no spirit...

Correct also. For the standard of Hafiz, that result consider very good.

Cheer for yoyo.:D:D

I know he is not the caused of mas team lost against china.

Frankly speaking, I think Hafiz Hashim is a player with great talent, really.

However, it's his playing attitude that ruin his badminton career, and worse, ruin Malaysia's hope to lift the Thomas Cup since 1992. It's unacceptable to me that a player at Thomas Cup level can make so much unforced errors, so many of them that I was so despised that I shut down the TV even before the game ended.

It's such a shameful performance, really. I'd rather to have the reserve player taking over his role as the 3rd single just now, who knows the youngster might spring surprise?

The only option left for HH, is to retire for good. The same goes to WCH too, awful performance.

Correct also. For the standard of Hafiz, that result consider very good.

Cheer for yoyo.:D:D

I know he is not the caused of mas team lost against china.

malaysia player always like this...expect to lost...win(lcw)...expect to win...lost(kkk-tbh)...just like 2 years ago...ms expect to win all but lost all...md expect to lost all but win all...T.T...

malaysia player always like this...expect to lost...win(lcw)...expect to win...lost(kkk-tbh)...just like 2 years ago...ms expect to win all but lost all...md expect to lost all but win all...T.T...

What to do?

Hope they win fly high in beijing...hopefully lah.

What to do?

Hope they win fly high in beijing...hopefully lah.

should we expect them to lost??...then maybe malaysia have 3 gold in bag!!!!hahax...:D

should we expect them to lost??...then maybe malaysia have 3 gold in bag!!!!hahax...:D

We swept all the badminton medals:D:D

c'mon lah, dont like gov, only compared to the worst one.

Compare with CJ, compare with SSM, compare with Simon lah my dear.

Correct! Correct! Correct!:p

Frankly speaking, I think Hafiz Hashim is a player with great talent, really.

However, it's his playing attitude that ruin his badminton career, and worse, ruin Malaysia's hope to lift the Thomas Cup since 1992. It's unacceptable to me that a player at Thomas Cup level can make so much unforced errors, so many of them that I was so despised that I shut down the TV even before the game ended.

It's such a shameful performance, really. I'd rather to have the reserve player taking over his role as the 3rd single just now, who knows the youngster might spring surprise?

The only option left for HH, is to retire for good. The same goes to WCH too, awful performance.

I agree with Hafiz having talent part. I mean as a model in the fashion industry, maybe can. As a shuttler, no.

Well Hafix did alot of errors today. Malaysian fans are dissapointed by the lost. Both from Hafiz and KKK/TBH. But at least we gave a fight. Yes it was close. But the INA supporters suffered the most. They have been defeated by Korea. Of course KOREA played much better game today. I do hope they can win the THomas Cup.

Well Hafix did alot of errors today. Malaysian fans are dissapointed by the lost. Both from Hafiz and KKK/TBH. But at least we gave a fight. Yes it was close. But the INA supporters suffered the most. They have been defeated by Korea. Of course KOREA played much better game today. I do hope they can win the THomas Cup.

Correction, only LCW & MZ/MF put up a fight.

I thought that Wong Choon Han gave a good effort too, but was out-classed, and his physique is below par, however.

-dave

I thought that Wong Choon Han gave a good effort too, but was out-classed, and his physique is below par, however.

-dave

Fair comment. It was painful watching WCH vs BCL yesterday. If it was a boxing match, the match official would have stopped the fight.

I present this medal to HH for his gameplay against CJ yesterday.

chen jin says no, not on my watch..

this HH cannot be saved anymore!!
all his shot has no commitment and it really makes me angry.!!
if he plays nicely, and lost so closely nvm, but he play in such a way that....haiz!! dont want to talk anymore!

c'mon lah, dont like gov, only compared to the worst one.

Compare with CJ, compare with SSM, compare with Simon lah my dear.

I mean for Malaysian 3rd single...what choice do we have...Hafiz, KBH, Lee suan seng, the young Arif Latiff...who should we send?..I don't think even Wong Choon Han can beat Chen Jin...

we just don't have China-class singles other than LCW...

I don't want to blame hafiz so much because even the coach didn't expect him to win anyway..rexy's target was 1 single and two doubles...KKK/TBH was the letdown...

and the second doubles I think the most exciting game of the whole match...it reminds me of KKK/TBH when their first rising in the Asia Game...

I mean for Malaysian 3rd single...what choice do we have...Hafiz, KBH, Lee suan seng, the young Arif Latiff...who should we send?..I don't think even Wong Choon Han can beat Chen Jin...

we just don't have China-class singles other than LCW...

I don't want to blame hafiz so much because even the coach didn't expect him to win anyway..rexy's target was 1 single and two doubles...KKK/TBH was the letdown...

and the second doubles I think the most exciting game of the whole match...it reminds me of KKK/TBH when their first rising in the Asia Game...
we can have sairul amar ayob or roslin!!
at least they had a better chance than hafiz!

or ismail samad also can...

or ismail samad also can...

Camon, u guys, instead of mentioning all the "oldhands", none of whom we know can progress much further, we shud seriously start exposing the younger generation like arif, TCS,CWF etc AND we must go searching the grassroots level like schools and hopefully we discover another gem like LCW.

I remember one commentary that Morten Frost said he was the one who discovered LCW , then as a scrawny schoolboy in Penang with potential and fought to have him transfered to KL for training. Wish we had more talents like LCW. The current batch of youngsters like Arif and TCS just somehow doesnt give me the confidence that they are the rite players to carry on MAS's challenge after uncles WCH, HH have retired. Maybe KLRC have some undiscovered gems?

i juz mentioned some oldhands that had a better chance and fighting spirit than HH like yeterday crucial match.,.,,.in this time...
if we put CWF or tcs or arif, do u think that they can cope up the pressure?

we can have sairul amar ayob or roslin!!
at least they had a better chance than hafiz!

watching this from far away: first i don´t think Hafiz is "talented" at this high level and second i would choose Roslin over his brother anytime.

yeah, roslin is much better than hafiz..roslin is much more experience although his fitness level are as not so ggod as lcw they all but at least roslin have a fighting spirit...
dunno why BAM dont want to pick him..

after yesterday results, i would say that HH is the `destroyer` to the team hope to reaching the final..:D:p not hero..but zero...:)
hehe..