TC/UC 2008 - May 14 - QUARTER FINAL- Day 4

[nellute]

Go Go Go Jan O...Go Go Jan O :)

:crying: does not look like he is going to make it

[yen_saw]

Looks like Korea's trick payoff afterall!!

[Weily]

Looks like Korea's trick payoff afterall!!

score please guys...

[badadum]

SSM took 1st set 21-11....
Starting 2nd set now.

[sophiaJ]

21-11 in 1st game

[Gitlis]

Well, Koreans will meet the host on Friday.

[AlanY]

21-11 in 1st game
thanks....................

[sophiaJ]

big Wind for korea TC china UC this night
probably both win by 3-2
scare scare...

[sophiaJ]

jorgensen is following ssm tightly..
5-5

[gitee]

MOst likely ZL will be on the line up in the next game.

Will never be as ZL is not in the Uber Cup team. Only XXF, LL, ZL and JYJ.

I thot before the tie started , I saw ZL supposed to play 3WS. What happened ? It became JYJ.

Just like KJ supposed to play 1MS but changed to PG.

Unless keying errors by organisers ? Or last minute injuries ?

[Weily]

jorgensen is following ssm tightly..
5-5

thanks Sophia... keep on update the score. i can't view livescore because my company has block it. :(

[sophiaJ]

ssm leads 8-6......

[nellute]

Korea 8 - Den 6

[modious]

SSM leading 9 - 7.

[masjoko]

now 8-8 for ssm

[yen_saw]

Will never be as ZL is not in the Uber Cup team. Only XXF, LL, ZL and JYJ.


:confused:......

[sophiaJ]

9-7.................

[gitee]

jorgensen is following ssm tightly..
5-5

Wow ssm smashing all the way ...he big built ...Jorgensen still lack power

[modious]

now 8-8 for ssm

8-8?? that never happened. :confused:

[sophiaJ]

tie 9-9 now....

[jason_tiger]

Really really don't know should or shouldn't Denmark let Kenneth to play as 1st single. As Peter and LHI would be another 50-50 game. Joachim stands a much better chance to fight against SSM.

[yen_saw]

Will never be as ZL is not in the Uber Cup team. Only XXF, LL, ZL and JYJ.

I thot before the tie started , I saw ZL supposed to play 3WS. What happened ? It became JYJ.

Just like KJ supposed to play 1MS but changed to PG.

Unless keying errors by organisers ? Or last minute injuries ?

Look at my post again, I said ZL not ZN!!!

[sophiaJ]

ssm leads 11-9.....

[modious]

SSM leads at the break. 11 - 9.

[modious]

Really really don't know should or shouldn't Denmark let Kenneth to play as 1st single. As Peter and LHI would be another 50-50 game. Joachim stands a much better chance to fight against SSM.

Kenneth has a back injury according to reports. Denmark don't have a choice.

[gitee]

Look at my post again, I said ZL not ZN!!!

Oh SORRY ... something wrong with my eyes ... so late at night ...eyes closing ....Hee hee

[gitee]

Look at my post again, I said ZL not ZN!!!

Actually JYJ really not a stable player ... she will be limited in her potential.

[nellute]

good nite. Thomas cup.

[sophiaJ]

15-9....game over soon

[badadum]

7 straight points for SSM :(
leads 16-9

[yen_saw]

So KOrea vs INA in TC Semi on Fri

[gitee]

15-9....game over soon

Will young Jan Jorgensen become another Kuan Beng Hong ? Seems he is being thrashed yah ?

[Gitlis]

**** cheating Koreans...

[yen_saw]

Who knows that trick may pay off. INA should be wary of Korea.

[sophiaJ]

19-9...........

[modious]

SSM won the game 21 - 9.

[dunker]

Poor Denmark, really wanted them to go far. Or at least stomp on South Korea. But tha fat lady havent sang yet, there is hope.

[sophiaJ]

21-9....end liao at last

[dunker]

Fat lady just sang waaaaaaah

[yen_saw]

Korea in the SEMI!!!

[badadum]

Thanks for a good fight Danish team. Rest assured INA will take care of the Koreans in SF.

[sophiaJ]

interesting TC semi finals on fri...good for us...hehe

[dunker]

Yep Indonesia is still a force and hope they TRASH South Korea.

[yen_saw]

The previous TC runner up (Den) is out of the tournament so it is all Asian team now.

[masjoko]

Fat lady just sang waaaaaaah

i didnt see any fat lady?

[gitee]

Yep Indonesia is still a force and hope they TRASH South Korea.

Sony & Taufik not playing well ...so let's see if INA can pull it off.

KOR 2nd double seems to have higher percentage.

1st doubles, both 50-50.

For China vs MAS, I would say 50-50.

[gitee]

The previous TC runner up (Den) is out of the tournament so it is all Asian team now.

And last one for many of them - KJ, PG (?), JE, ML ?

[dunker]

Sony & Taufik not playing well ...so let's see if INA can pull it off.

KOR 2nd double seems to have higher percentage.

1st doubles, both 50-50.

For China vs MAS, I would say 50-50.

I agree, but heck there is always hope rite? Or wishful thinking, on my part.

[badadum]

Sony & Taufik not playing well ...so let's see if INA can pull it off.

KOR 2nd double seems to have higher percentage.

1st doubles, both 50-50.

For China vs MAS, I would say 50-50.

KOR 2nd double was just beaten by INA newly formed pair, so 50-50 is more accurate than saying they have higher percentage.
I think it'll be 50-50 all the way to the 3rd MS, where Simon should take care of SSM. Score could be anywhere from 3-2 to 3-0.

[narnia]

Rocket Shon Seung Mo - 12 Points In A Row!

[dunker]

i didnt see any fat lady?

There is this thing we use to say, "It is not over untill the fat lady sings.":)

[yen_saw]

And last one for many of them - KJ, PG (?), JE, ML ?

Not sure. Unless Denmark sees new emerging MS or they will still have to rely on these old horses. Pity the Den team it is always so close yet so far.

[dunker]

Sigh, I always hoped Denmark would win the cup, think of all the good it will do to the sport we all love.

[limsy]

hmm...finally finish...i can have a good nap tomorow afternoon...today was the 4th day since the competition begin...i did not have a afternoon nap...so tiring me...^^...

[limsy]

this edition will saw the end of denmark good time in thomas...kj are no more in next thomas cup...so was the two md...pg also mostly retire before next edition...pity

[dunker]

I first started to play badminton when PG won the world junior championships for Boys doubles i think and WCH was in the quarters i think. And now they are about to retire.....so sad. I hope denmark have replacements waiting.

[Hazeef]

What happen to jens eriksen and martin luundgard? why they're not playing? i know KJ have back injuries, but if JE/ML play, they can win the 2nd doubles at least. haihz...i really hope denmark will win...

[narnia]

What happen to jens eriksen and martin luundgard? why they're not playing? i know KJ have back injuries, but if JE/ML play, they can win the 2nd doubles at least. haihz...i really hope denmark will win...

They have been beaten by Bo/Mogensen in Swiss this year.

[limsy]

What happen to jens eriksen and martin luundgard? why they're not playing? i know KJ have back injuries, but if JE/ML play, they can win the 2nd doubles at least. haihz...i really hope denmark will win...

they will retire after OG...denmark will not anymore as the best 5...sad...hope anyone of denmark player replace the retire one please...

[dunker]

Funny that many Malaysians always support Danish palyers as a second alternative to their own team. I mean, Peter Gade could have passed off as a Malaysian palyer based on the support he had form the fans during MO07.

[robin7]

I feel so sorry for DEN for not making it to SF. Would this be the last TC for veterans like PG, KJ, JE/MLH & LP/JR?

[limsy]

if i am not mistaken...malaysia have a good time in denmark too...they like wong choong hann...^^...

[jason_tiger]

It's going to be exciting semi-finals in Thomas Cup. Frankly speaking, if plays on the neutral ground, the current depth of stregth of Korea team might have slightly better edge than Indonesia. Park vs Sony (55-45), 1st double (50-50), LHI vs Taufik (50-50), 2nd double korea should beat Indo 2nd, but Indo 3rd single should beat korea 3rd single.

[limsy]

I feel so sorry for DEN for not making it to SF. Would this be the last TC for veterans like PG, KJ, JE/MLH & LP/JR?

ya...i think this has been comfirm...pg said himself this was kj last edition...and the md will retire after OG...

[Krisna]

It's going to be exciting semi-finals in Thomas Cup. Frankly speaking, if plays on the neutral ground, the current depth of stregth of Korea team might have slightly better edge than Indonesia. Park vs Sony (55-45), 1st double (50-50), LHI vs Taufik (50-50), 2nd double korea should beat Indo 2nd, but Indo 3rd single should beat korea 3rd single.

INA's 2nd MD, Candra-Nova, will not be easily defeated. I say 50-50 chance... ;)

However old they are, ...Candra is still the #5 or #6 ranked MD on Earth. While Nova is the #1 ranked XD on Earth. They can play badminton very very well and have practiced together for more than 10 years... ;) Both got good fighting attitude. They won't go down easy...

[Han]

It's going to be exciting semi-finals in Thomas Cup. Frankly speaking, if plays on the neutral ground, the current depth of stregth of Korea team might have slightly better edge than Indonesia. Park vs Sony (55-45), 1st double (50-50), LHI vs Taufik (50-50), 2nd double korea should beat Indo 2nd, but Indo 3rd single should beat korea 3rd single.

I also think Korea is in the great position to advance to Final, team Indonesia has yet to show their ability to win convincingly against the weaker teams. With Taufik current form, he may not even win as MS3 and he already finding excuses for himself ... family man now ...
I think it will be the China vs Korea in the Final, lets just hope Malaysia put up a solid fight before we bow out.

[badadum]

Wow, INA is the underdog against KOR in the eyes of many Malaysians???

[badMania]

INA's 2nd MD, Candra-Nova, will not be easily defeated. I say 50-50 chance... ;)

However old they are, ...Candra is still the #5 or #6 ranked MD on Earth. While Nova is the #1 ranked XD on Earth. They can play badminton very very well and have practiced together for more than 10 years... ;) Both got good fighting attitude. They won't go down easy...

Exactly...I thought it was this pair Candra Wijaya/Nova Widianto that beat Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man a few weeks ago?

Together with the home support, I think INA does have a slight edge.

[niepan]

And feel shame on S. Korea:mad:
I am expecting INA or CHN or MAS gives a white wash to S. Korea

[Krisna]

And feel shame on S. Korea:mad:
I am expecting INA or CHN or MAS gives a white wash to S. Korea

The INA fans here don't think KOR can be defeated easily at all... :p The 8500 fans in Istora apparently all knew that INA is better off playing against DEN. They were shouting Denmark, Denmark today... :p :D But, oh well... in the end, the Koreans were better... :cool:

[Seasider]

I also think Korea is in the great position to advance to Final, team Indonesia has yet to show their ability to win convincingly against the weaker teams. With Taufik current form, he may not even win as MS3 and he already finding excuses for himself ... family man now ...
I think it will be the China vs Korea in the Final, lets just hope Malaysia put up a solid fight before we bow out.


I dont like this kinda of mentality. This kinda mentality is not good for any team and its fan. Why would you have to bow out to anyone; the game hasn't started yet. You can't lose the war before the fight. I know China is the strongest team; but MAS team is not Nigeria or South Africa. I believe MAS still have a chance!!! LCW can beat LD as he has done it a few times. Although China MS2 and MS3 are stronger, MAS still have KKK/TBH and the uncles who can beat China's MD1 and MD2. This is a team event; anything can happen.

[badMania]

Nobody gives NED Uber Cup team a chance, yet, they showed us that miracles can happen. They were just 1 point away from a monumental upset....in beating 2 of 3 Chinese WS players.

[niepan]

Nobody gives NED Uber Cup team a chance, yet, they showed us that miracles can happen. They were just 1 point away from a monumental upset....in beating 2 of 3 Chinese WS players.

Since 1998, I think NED is the only team to beat 2 of 3 Chinese WS players. Am I right?

[badMania]

The INA fans here don't think KOR can be defeated easily at all... :p The 8500 fans in Istora apparently all knew that INA is better off playing against DEN. They were shouting Denmark, Denmark today... :p :D But, oh well... in the end, the Koreans were better... :cool:

Yup, it's gonna be hell of a night on Friday :o;)
The key will be Sony and Taufik. If both players play to their form and beat Park Sung Hwan and Lee Hyun Il, then, we are halfway through.

[niepan]

Come on INA, beat KOR

[badMania]

Since 1998, I think NED is the only team to beat 2 of 3 Chinese WS players. Am I right?

I am afraid so. It's so nearly 3 out of 3.....geez....LYB must be thanking his fortune that Lu Lan won.

[niepan]

In Chinese media, they are not satisfied with LU Lan too... Just lucky...

[Krisna]

I am afraid so. It's so nearly 3 out of 3.....geez....LYB must be thanking his fortune that Lu Lan won.

As an eye witness, I can testify that: by the time Judith reached match point against Lu Lan, virtually the whole Istora stadium forgot about Taufik's match... Everyone knew that if CHN were beaten, INA's prospects of winning the 2008 Uber Cup significantly improved! :p :D

The crowd shouted "Whooo" "Whaaaa" at every shot that were made... Maybe Judith felt the pressure was too big at that time... Imagine 8500 people shouting at you... and they aren't even her countrymen... And, she must realize she was on the verge of setting the UPSET OF THE CENTURY or even THE BIGGEST UPSET IN BADMINTON HISTORY

"NED beat CHN 3-0 in the Uber Quarterfinals" How big a feat that could have been! [had it happened...] :p:p:p

[niepan]

Poor Judith.... She can't even go to Olympics....

[badMania]

As an eye witness, I can testify that: by the time Judith reached match point against Lu Lan, virtually the whole Istora stadium forgot about Taufik's match... Everyone knew that if CHN were beaten, INA's prospects of winning the 2008 Uber Cup significantly improved! :p :D

I think NED's 2 pts will serve as a morale booster to INA's Uber Cup team. Don't give up before play even starts!

Our 2 doubles can give a hell of a fight to the Chinese pairs (as long as it's not Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen :o). Firda and Pia need to stand out and say that they are not afraid to take on Lu Lan and Jiang Yanjiao (if Zhu Lin's injury still prevents her from playing).

Maria has shown her worth by beating Yippy. Remember...Yippy has beaten Xie Xingfang too in recent months, so, Maria still has a chance. The crowds will be behind her and will be screaming like hell. The Chinese players won't be comfortable with that kind of hostile atmosphere.

Of course, we still have to first beat Germany tomorrow night.

[Erwin Kyoto]

Yup, it's gonna be hell of a night on Friday :o;)
The key will be Sony and Taufik. If both players play to their form and beat Park Sung Hwan and Lee Hyun Il, then, we are halfway through.

due to performance as 1st MS of INA TC for first time on front of home ground, Sony be nervous and lack of skill, power etc...

[badMania]

And, she must realize she was on the verge of setting the UPSET OF THE CENTURY or even THE BIGGEST UPSET IN BADMINTON HISTORY

"NED beat CHN 3-0 in the Uber Quarterfinals" How big a feat that could have been! [had it happened...] :p:p:p

She really will regret it now.

I thought that the tie would be all over when Judith lost. However, who can expect that Rachel Van Cutsen would defy the odds and defeat Jiang Yanjiao...that was really a shocker :eek::o:mad: Rachel looked down and out after losing by a big margin in the second set.

[Han]

I dont like this kinda of mentality. This kinda mentality is not good for any team and its fan. Why would you have to bow out to anyone; the game hasn't started yet. You can't lose the war before the fight. I know China is the strongest team; but MAS team is not Nigeria or South Africa. I believe MAS still have a chance!!! LCW can beat LD as he has done it a few times. Although China MS2 and MS3 are stronger, MAS still have KKK/TBH and the uncles who can beat China's MD1 and MD2. This is a team event; anything can happen.

I think you mis-understood my point, of course I want Malaysia to win just like many would like to see Denmark over Korea but the fact remains we are the underdog and China is still superior over many dark horses that are still hanging around. For Malaysia to win, we need to take at least one MS and win 2 MDs, is very tough against this mighty China. If Chong Wei can deliver then the possibility will greatly enhance.
Yes, I will take your word for it, anything is possible just like 1992 and hope we come true and get another public holiday :D
Malaysia Boleh!

[d65up2]

Very interesting for Krisna though!:)


No wat INA can beat Korea...they are too good at the moment

[ants]

Judith almost won the 3rd set...it was very close. It would have been GREAT if they defeated China... that would be history. I think China never expect this kind of results.

[Felix.]

It's a pity for Netherlands since they put up a great fight.
Judith must have been very gutted. But kudos to them.

[yen_saw]

China UC obviously underestimated Holland's capability, it is a lesson learn for them. Korea is still the underdog facing China tomorrow.

[madbad]

Having JYJ play WS3 for CHN is scary (for CHN) as she's proven time and time again to not have the mental capacity to cope. I hope this was a gamble against NED to allow ZL to rest. CHN must have ZL back in the line up for the SF. I think XXF will bounce back in a big way, so I'm not too worried about her. Of biggest concern is LL. Her form seems to fluctuate from day to day... you never know which version will show up. Once again, their incredible WD pairs bailed them out, so with that in mind, I think CHN will be too strong for KOR tomorrow.

[Felix.]

I predict that CHN is not going to lose any tie from SF onwards in UC.
Bank on it.

[jason_tiger]

Agree to your view, Felix.
China over confident today, surely they will put ZL back as 3rd single in Semifinal and final.
It would be a big big upset/mistake if 2nd single beat Lu Lan today.
Lucky escape reallly.

[madbad]

I give a lot of credit to DEN for their fighting effort against KOR. Some monumental matches (PG over PSH, JR/LP over LYD/JJS) went DEN's way but in the end, team depth dictated the result. KOR march on, riding their controversial strategy which has drawn the ire of many BC members, to meet INA in the SF. The Korean players are a tough minded bunch so I think they will be able to block out the Senayan crowd. KOR is strong, too strong for INA.

[Felix.]

Agree to your view, Felix.
China over confident today, surely they will put ZL back as 3rd single in Semifinal and final.
It would be a big big upset/mistake if 2nd single beat Lu Lan today.
Lucky escape reallly.
Exactly. NED was so close and yet so far to do it. It would have been a HUGE UPSET in badminton world this decade.
I suspect that the Women's Single @ Olympic is anyone's game at this point.

[jason_tiger]

On the neutral ground, Korea can beat Indonesia; Make it a balance game since playing at Indonesia home soils.
Haven't said that, Koreans got very tough mental strength, they won't be affected much even playing at Indonesia.
I think if Indonesia could drag the game to 3rd single, they will win.
Key responsibilities are on Taufik & 1st double, Indonesia must get two points in order to drag the game to 3rd single.
For 1st single and 2nd double, I will say Korea are at the better edge.

[Wong8Egg]

Can someone list the result between Denmark and Korea, it is not shown on tournamentsoftware.com ?

[madbad]

Can someone list the result between Denmark and Korea, it is not shown on tournamentsoftware.com ?

Yes it is
http://tournamentsoftware.com/sport/teammatch.aspx?id=20003&match=108

[Wong8Egg]

Yes it is
http://tournamentsoftware.com/sport/teammatch.aspx?id=20003&match=108

Thanks alot, it looks very close just from the score. Any idea why KJ didn't play for first single??

[badadum]

Thanks alot, it looks very close just from the score. Any idea why KJ didn't play for first single??

Back problem/injury, according to the Danes.

[BMcentral]

now CHN is on full alert facing KOR... worst case that can happen to KOR UC team. If CHN was playing KOR instead NED, they probably already lost due to lack of preparation.

[cooler]

danes celebrate beating the korea MD
xu H playing WD :p (forehand serve like singles:p)
the uncle

[george@chongwei]

wow, look at WCH hand power!!!:)