TC/UC 2008 - May 15 - Uber Cup Semi Final - Day 5

[yen_saw]

COngrate to both INA and CHN. It will be interesting final although CHN has the edge.

[badMania]

An accurate shot by Pia makes it 8-6.
Long return by Schnaase as Pia stretches it to 9-6.
Another accurate return by Pia to lead 10-6.
Pia stumbled as she couldn't return Schnaase's shot, 10-7.
A breather for both players....

Schnaase claimed her 8th pt as Pia made a net return, 10-8.
She returned the favor, 11-8 at the interval.

A much more interesting second set and a closer one for sure.

[stork]

Snooze? U snooze u lose :D

yeah, don´t sneus miss schnaase!

[winzerer]

you could try imediabiz.tv trans7 channel

[reiko80]

did tv3 show live now???

[abedeng]

Well, this German is not too bad, learning fast and applying similar tactics Pia used on her.

More respectable scoreline, 11-14 to Schnaase.

[badMania]

10 more pts for Pia to bring INA to the Uber Cup Final.

Schnaase returned with a bang as she won 2 straight pts, 11-10.
Pia is back with a vengeance, 12-10.

[carine]

INA leading 15-11...

[Erwin Kyoto]

it seems Vita/Butet not play tonite...just take a rest and enjoy cheering to their teammates...

cmon Pia wins it.. 16-12

[ronnie14]

pia will win..will..will win..

[carine]

INA leading 16-12...

[stork]

They should probably have let bottminton play because she has played the INA girl Pia twice already and 1-1 both times close ...

i guess carola bottminton played in any of the earlier rounds and karin sneus should also get an opportunity to play

[ctjcad]

Pia's footwork might need more work, but her game & strokes are full of deception...i guess her body language is a big part of that..

[badMania]

2 straight pts for Pia to make it 14-10, before a net return by her and the GER claims her 11th pt. 14-11.
Another long return by the GER, 15-11.
Net return by Pia, 15-12.
Schnaase's return was poor, 16-12.
What a return by the GER, 16-13.
Long return by Schnaase, 17-13. 4 more pts for a place in the Final.

Pia needs to be calm now.

[abedeng]

Pia steps another gear to the finish, 19-13.

[carine]

INA leading 19-13...

[badMania]

Quick interception by Pia, unable to be returned properly by the GER, 18-13.
What an accurate cross-court shot by Pia, 19-13.
Ouch....what a wasted chance by Pia...as she returned wide, 19-14.
2 more pts now.....

[eaglehelang]

did tv3 show live now???

online only scroll back for the link but it's finishing

[carine]

match pt for INA,20-16

[badMania]

Another net return by Pia as the GER makes it 19-15.
Hmm...the GER just wouldn't give up as Schnaase pumped her fist, 19-16.
A good return to the back of court by Pia...20-16. 4 match pts. Can Pia claim it?

[carine]

INA won,21-16...

[abedeng]

Game over, it will be CHN vs INA final.

[gargoyle]

Finally Final !

[ronnie14]

pia rocks d stadium...

[Erwin Kyoto]

Kido`s sister won the game....HORREEEEEEEEEE.....WE ARE IN FINAL....FINAL....FINAL...MERDEKAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaa

[badadum]

Congrats INA UC Team..... exceed the target set by PBSI already.
Best of luck against China on Saturday :)

[abedeng]

The whole German team sportingly congratulate the Indonesian team.

[badMania]

Pia Zebadiah did it....21-7, 21-16 over Karin Schnaase. INA 3 GER 1.

INA will play CHN in the Uber Cup Final on Saturday!

[demolidor]

i guess carola bottminton played in any of the earlier rounds and karin sneus should also get an opportunity to play

;) http://www.toernooi.nl/sport/player.aspx?id=20003&player=150

[limsy]

congratulation...malaysia dream...ina deliver

[ronnie14]

yeay..ina rocks!!!!

[abedeng]

Susi Susanti is congratulated for her role in the team.This is one big step, for INA women to return to glory.

Let's hope the improvements continue. Whether or not INA wins the title on Saturday.

German girls take pics on court, a momento to their great achievement.

[stork]

Surprisingly enough Team Indonesia wins 3:1 over much higher ranked Team Germany! Congratulations and Good Luck for the Final against the Great Wall of China!

[badMania]

INA celebrates like they have won the Final. But, they truly deserves it as reaching the Final has already exceeded the SF target by PBSI.

[badadum]

INA celebrates like they have won the Final. But, they truly deserves it as reaching the Final has already exceeded the SF target by PBSI.

Now can we talk about the final? ;)

[ctjcad]

..my goodness, the crowd was already practicing their "Tau-fiiiik, Tau-fik" chants...:p ;)
Good to see Markis & the whole family hugging his sister, Pia...

[stork]

;) http://www.toernooi.nl/sport/player.aspx?id=20003&player=150

oh! :D:D:D but it wouldnt make any difference...

[eaglehelang]

Surprisingly enough Team Indonesia wins 3:1 over much higher ranked Team Germany! Congratulations and Good Luck for the Final against the Great Wall of China!

Huh? Indonesia Uber Team stronger than Germany anytime, the players have higher World rankings. Germany upset Denmark yesterday

[badMania]

German girls take pics on court, a momento to their great achievement.

Exactly! This is the spirit of badminton. Even when losing, GER girls are celebrating too in joy...they are really milking the moments as they collected their bronze medal. Everyone is happy!!! Nobody is sulking!

[limsy]

hmm...let break down china great wall...indonesia boleh!!!

[Erwin Kyoto]

Now can we talk about the final? ;)

sure.. why not...lets create a new thread "Uber Cup Final...INA vs CHN..":cool::rolleyes:

[badMania]

The ladies are now receiving their roses....even the men's coaches are :eek:

[demolidor]

Surprisingly enough Team Indonesia wins 3:1 over much higher ranked Team Germany! Congratulations and Good Luck for the Final against the Great Wall of China!

:D They were both 5/6 seed, that's why the PAW was also 10-10 ;)
(Germany's WS have better ranks but INA's WD are better ranked than Germany's...)

And again the commentator said "for the first time ever Germany get a medal" (something like that). Just like in 2006 :D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uber_Cup#1990_onwards

[yen_saw]

Exactly! This is the spirit of badminton. Even when losing, GER girls are celebrating too in joy...they are really milking the moments as they collected their bronze medal. Everyone is happy!!! Nobody is sulking!

That's good to know. Congrate again to the INA team. The best achievement in recents year. For some reasons i like to see them upset China this coming Sat.

[badadum]

:D They were both 5/6 seed, that's why the PAW was also 10-10 ;)

5/6 seed? Dang, INA's UC team is really down there in the ranking :o.

[F-38-I]

Sutiyoso looks confident to beat China

[ctjcad]

Now can we talk about the final? ;)
..another great day awaits all of us tomorrow. Yes, the TC Semifinals, pitting:
CHN vs. MAS....WOW!!

and

KOR vs. INA.....WOW!!

let's see if they can match the same excitement as today's Semifinals...
..after those are done, THEN we can talk about the Finals...;):cool:

[badMania]

The excited GER ladies are back in the podium...for some more photo taking.
Oh boy....they are really enjoying it!

[limsy]

..another great day awaits all of us tomorrow. Yes, the TC Semifinals, pitting:
CHN vs. MAS....WOW!!

and

KOR vs. INA.....WOW!!

let's see if they can match the same excitement as today's Semifinals...
after those are done, THEN we can talk about the Finals...;):cool:

ya...of course...ina 3-0 korea...

[yen_saw]

GER didn't expect to get into Semi so they must still be thrilling over the success although losing here in semi.

[mybdmworld]

But still I would like to congratulate the German Team.

They are also great, becoming the semifinalist of this prestigious event.
This year, they are the only European team to proceed SF and taking Bronze Medals.

Next UC, they should be more better than what they have done now....

Indonesia UC Team is really wonderful...
Congratulations....

[reiko80]

ya...of course...ina 3-0 korea...
limsy.....not that easy...............:D

[d65up2]

TC Final is China v Korea

Well we'll see wat happend

[stork]

:D They were both 5/6 seed, that's why the PAW was also 10-10 ;)
(Germany's WS have better ranks but INA's WD are better ranked than Germany's...)

yeah, take away XHW and German Team will struggle against Teams like Poland or Russia...

i was stupid to throw away all my paws in the early rounds, it´s so easy to get the points now...:o all you need to do is pick it up...:)

[demolidor]

5/6 seed? Dang, INA's UC team is really down there in the ranking :o.

China 1st, Japan 2nd, Korea & Malaysia 3/4, Indonesia & Germany 5/6 ...

Someone made this table a while ago...

[demolidor]

yeah, take away XHW and German Team will struggle against Teams like Poland or Russia...

i was stupid to throw away all my paws in the early rounds, it´s so easy to get the points now...:o all you need to do is pick it up...:)

Yeah same here a little to many picks in the beginning, especially the 7 points for Netherlands was a wasted pick, could pick up 8 or 9 right now ...
Now I have to go for upset picks to win the PAW :rolleyes:

[abedeng]

A few from our group ran off with female clothing taken from the German glamour girls.

[badMania]

A few from our group ran off with female clothing taken from the German glamour girls.

What ???? :eek::cool::rolleyes:
The German gals stripped before u guys ????

[eaglehelang]

A few from our group ran off with female clothing taken from the German glamour girls.

Perhaps you better rephrase that, it sounds like they torn clothing off the backs of the German gals. ;)

[stork]

Yeah same here a little to many picks in the beginning, especially the 7 points for Netherlands was a wasted pick, could pick up 8 or 9 right now ...
Now I have to go for upset picks to win the PAW :rolleyes:

i´m already through since yesterday :o good luck for your!

[Felix.]

Congrats to INA Ladies for defying the odds and reaching the final.
Hopefully they'd play without too much pressure on Saturday.
CHN will prolly stream roll the INA 3-0 in the final tho.

[demolidor]

A few from our group ran off with female clothing taken from the German glamour girls.

:eek: What!? They better still have one left for me :D

Okay I'm off to the supermarket ...

[badMania]

Everyone expects CHN to beat INA by 3-0.
But, the support of the home crowd and some unexpected factor might just tilt the balance to INA's favor. Anyway, INA has nothing to lose now. It's CHN's cup to lose now.

[ctjcad]

A few from our group ran off with female clothing taken from the German glamour girls.
..our kwun wouldn't be too happy about that, esp. with you guys carrying the BC banner around...
*Btw, Abang Deng, don't forget to remind Hau-ge to bring the BC banner tomorrow (for the 1st tie, get-together and last tie of the day)---thanks!!:):p ;)

[Felix.]

Everyone expects CHN to beat INA by 3-0.
But, the support of the home crowd and some unexpected factor might just tilt the balance to INA's favor. Anyway, INA has nothing to lose now. It's CHN's cup to lose now.
The only one that I think will be able to 'steal' a point from CHN is Firda. I'm actually quite impressed by her. If she can play without making too much errors, she might be able to win.

[Erwin Kyoto]

Everyone expects CHN to beat INA by 3-0.
But, the support of the home crowd and some unexpected factor might just tilt the balance to INA's favor. Anyway, INA has nothing to lose now. It's CHN's cup to lose now.

INA girls also have spirit to give hard fighting to CHN as NED did it yesterday...hope Senayan miracle goes to Maria&friends to make our dream comes true tommorow...yeaaaaahhh...Super Susy is back like INA`s spirit 94/96...:p:p

[abedeng]

Perhaps you better rephrase that, it sounds like they torn clothing off the backs of the German gals. ;)

Hey, I didn't say they took it OFF THE BODY of the girls, they just took clothing from the girls.

Anyway, now we are going to dinner/supper.

[Bao]

what a play of Indonesian Uber Cup Team,
they play very Good, especially Firda,
its predicted Maria Kristin will lose in the 1st WS but she also play well eventough many unforced error :(

Susi Susanti (INA UBER CUP Manager, former no.1 BWF WS player) said, INA team is very Ready to be Lost on the first Tie (Maria Kristin Lost) and its wil not effect INA Phsycist/Mentallity.

2nd WS, Firda Great play , defeat Juliane Schenk,
both of player do some unforce Error, but Firda can past Critical point in 2nd Set, 19-17, 19-18, 19-19, 19-20, 20-20, 21-20, and 22-20,
"what a play" :)

1st WD, my Cutie Greysia POlii do her best with Jo Novita, no more point for Germany,

3rd WS, again PIA and PIa, she is always on the Fire, be the triger of INA Win today , as she hs done in Sea Games2007,
Gret PIA (19 years Old), hopefully be the next Susi Susanti

CONGRATZZZZZZZZZ INAAAAAAAAA

[ye333]

I think Butet/Vita has good chance. This may be the first time they can play WD wholeheartedly without worrying about XD.

Butet/Vita usually win points by 1. counter-attacking, and 2. clever placement and good deception. Thus IMHO, they will have good chance beating either Yang(old and slow)/Zhang(old and slow) or Gao(old and slow)/Zhao(not old but making unforced errors all the time), but they have less chance against Zhang/Wei(both not old, fast, and powerful).


The only one that I think will be able to 'steal' a point from CHN is Firda. I'm actually quite impressed by her. If she can play without making too much errors, she might be able to win.

[Just4Kicks]

Old and slow?

YW and ZJW? old yeah.. maybe

slow i dont think so...

anyways best of luck to both teams.. INA and CHN

[ye333]

They are slow now... and cannot keep attacking. Otherwise there is no way Lee/Lee can win. :cool:


Old and slow?

YW and ZJW? old yeah.. maybe

slow i dont think so...

anyways best of luck to both teams.. INA and CHN

[badMania]

I think Butet/Vita has good chance. This may be the first time they can play WD wholeheartedly without worrying about XD.

Butet/Vita usually win points by 1. counter-attacking, and 2. clever placement and good deception. Thus IMHO, they will have good chance beating either Yang(old and slow)/Zhang(old and slow) or Gao(old and slow)/Zhao(not old but making unforced errors all the time), but they have less chance against Zhang/Wei(both not old, fast, and powerful).

IMHO, Vita/Butet have the most problem beating Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen. I don't know why....the last time I watched them in the BAC 2008, they struggled big time against the veteran pair. The INA pair kept attacking, with the CHN pair contented to just defending and waiting for the INA pair to make the error by returning wide or to the net (which they mostly did). The INA pair ended up losing the first set easily. The second set was much better in terms of scoreline, but, yet again, the INA pair was too easily tempted to make unforced errors from their attacking play (which often was not successful at all!).

They should force Yang/Zhang to play more at the net, and tire the veterans out with the placement shots. Butet should play in front, instead of at the back because Vita has the tendency to make lots of errors to the net (similar to Lee Hyo Jung :o:eek:). Butet's experience in playing against Gao Ling or Zhang Yawen in the XD should help her.

The key will be to play smartly, not all-out attack.

[Felix.]

Going by what I saw from both pairs and their loop-sided previous meeting, Marissa and Natsir have no chance beating YW/ZJW. I'd be glad to be proven wrong tho'.

[Felix.]

I think Novita/Polii might be able to win against WYL/ZYW though because Greysia is playing really well this week.

[extremenanopowe]

China team is still the favourite. Am sure there's lots of emotions into this.

[badadum]

IMHO, Vita/Butet have the most problem beating Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen. I don't know why....the last time I watched them in the BAC 2008, they struggled big time against the veteran pair. The INA pair kept attacking, with the CHN pair contented to just defending and waiting for the INA pair to make the error by returning wide or to the net (which they mostly did). The INA pair ended up losing the first set easily. The second set was much better in terms of scoreline, but, yet again, the INA pair was too easily tempted to make unforced errors from their attacking play (which often was not successful at all!).

They should force Yang/Zhang to play more at the net, and tire the veterans out with the placement shots. Butet should play in front, instead of at the back because Vita has the tendency to make lots of errors to the net (similar to Lee Hyo Jung :o:eek:). Butet's experience in playing against Gao Ling or Zhang Yawen in the XD should help her.

The key will be to play smartly, not all-out attack.

Can't agree more. Vita/Butet haven't been able to force rubber whenever playing Zhang/Yang.... but they have been able to stretch (and beat) other Chinese WD pair.
Unfortunately for us, as WD1 they'll probably be force to play Zhang/Yang.

Maybe, LYB will see today's lost as reason not to field Zhang/Yang??

[copadh]

JSY looks kinda skinny. anyone know how old she is? KOR always brings out these young players during UC matches and surprise everybody.

...I think I saw Jang Soo-young with Korean team in Glasgow last year. She was assisgned to record every Korean opponent's game with handycam. She sat next to me when Indonesia met Denmark....

[Krisna]

For the 1st time since 1998, INA women are back in the Uber Cup finals!

The INA team were laughing and celebrating like crazy with the crowd today! I guess if INA don't celebrate now, we won't have the opportunity to celebrate on Saturday [after against CHN]... he he he...

[badMania]

For the 1st time since 1998, INA women are back in the Uber Cup finals!

The INA team were laughing and celebrating like crazy with the crowd today! I guess if INA don't celebrate now, we won't have the opportunity to celebrate on Saturday [after against CHN]... he he he...

On the TV, they celebrated like they have won the Cup :eek::o
But, they totally deserved the applause and accolade :D

Now, we can view the match against CHN as a bonus match with nothing to lose and everything to play for.

I thought Pia and Firda might have a chance against the more talented but unstable Zhu Lin and Lu Lan.

[Krisna]

On the TV, they celebrated like they have won the Cup :eek::o
But, they totally deserved the applause and accolade :D


Exactly what I thought! :p :D I had so much fun today. Greysia Polii especially was ecstatic! :cool:

With a 5% chance of winning against CHN on Saturday, we better celebrate today!!!! :D Tonigh is surely a BIG achievent for the #6 ranked team in the world... :D

[ye333]

In BAC 2008 both Vita and Butet had "big jobs" to do in XD. My impression is that they didn't put in 100% effort in the WD match. :cool:

Yes the key is to move Yang/Zhang around and tire them up.


IMHO, Vita/Butet have the most problem beating Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen. I don't know why....the last time I watched them in the BAC 2008, they struggled big time against the veteran pair. The INA pair kept attacking, with the CHN pair contented to just defending and waiting for the INA pair to make the error by returning wide or to the net (which they mostly did). The INA pair ended up losing the first set easily. The second set was much better in terms of scoreline, but, yet again, the INA pair was too easily tempted to make unforced errors from their attacking play (which often was not successful at all!).

They should force Yang/Zhang to play more at the net, and tire the veterans out with the placement shots. Butet should play in front, instead of at the back because Vita has the tendency to make lots of errors to the net (similar to Lee Hyo Jung :o:eek:). Butet's experience in playing against Gao Ling or Zhang Yawen in the XD should help her.

The key will be to play smartly, not all-out attack.

[copadh]

I realise there is a white guy in the INA bench..anyone can clarify who is this guy??

His name is Jason Kurfurst, physical trainer from Australia. Indonesian Olympic Committee (KOI) hired him and his three friends to help Indonesian athletes in Olympic Training Center.

[sumbadder]

Watching the Korean WD play, their defense has improved immensely. Their style of play is very similar to LYD/JJS & LJJ/HJM, where they do their best to get the shuttle back and frustrate their opponents into an error or an out of position lift. And they don't defend like CHN where they just lift everything back, they block to open spaces and drive things back which gives them more options. That's why Ha/Kim were able to come so close to winning their first game against Wei/Zhang despite the CHN girls being way better overall.

As an aside, I wonder what would happen if China messed their WD line-up. I bet GL/YW would murder any team out their.

[george@chongwei]

yeah, they celebrate like juz they had won the uber cup!!!:D

[girindra]

Hi guys, im new at BC, but have been watching here almost a year :p

I saw UC SF between INA and GER live at Senayan (at Class 1, Door A4 to be exact).

IMHO, it was an entertaining match actually, with a fantastic atmosphere in the stadium. I love Indonesians when they supporting their team, but a lil bit disappointed when a bunch of local supporters threw away Germany flag. As an Indonesian, i feel a lil bit pity.

But, instead all of that, a fantastic performance from Indonesians, both players and supporters. Too bad can't see TC today and UC final againts China tomorrow. Have to work at festival at Ancol :(. But hope to be back on Sunday for TC final :)

[george@chongwei]

hi there, welcome to bc forum:)

[Han]

Hi guys, im new at BC, but have been watching here almost a year :p

I saw UC SF between INA and GER live at Senayan (at Class 1, Door A4 to be exact).

IMHO, it was an entertaining match actually, with a fantastic atmosphere in the stadium. I love Indonesians when they supporting their team, but a lil bit disappointed when a bunch of local supporters threw away Germany flag. As an Indonesian, i feel a lil bit pity.

But, instead all of that, a fantastic performance from Indonesians, both players and supporters. Too bad can't see TC today and UC final againts China tomorrow. Have to work at festival at Ancol :(. But hope to be back on Sunday for TC final :)

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