Thomas Cup:

China : Malaysia - 3:0
Korea : Indonesia - 3:2


China : Korea - 3:2

Thomas Cup:
MAS - China: 3-2
INA - KOR: 3-1

Thomas Cup:
China-Mas:3-2
INA - KOR: 3-1

Thomas Cup:

China : Malaysia - 3:0
Korea : Indonesia - 3:2


China : Korea - 3:2



Picking China over Malaysia 3-0? There goes our friendship :mad:

THOMAS CUP :

Malaysia : China - 3:2
Indonesia : Korea - 3:1

Picking China over Malaysia 3-0? There goes our friendship :mad:

Lol.... i hope our players can prove them wrong then :p
3-0 is too embarassing

Picking China over Malaysia 3-0? There goes our friendship :mad:

yes, qidong, please take back your words. :mad:

its also not possible for china to beat malaysia 3-0

oh well, either CHN or MAS supporters are going to have a really bad weekend. and it all determines tomorrow.

I am more concerned about the KOR vs INA match. I want to see if INA can make KOR pay for choosing them, or KOR make every body more jealous about their plan which eventually pushed them into the final.

Korea will pay.

I personally predict that it's either 3-2 MAS or 3-1 CHN. game swings both ways, and it is a 60-40 with odd favors CHN.

...no matter what the outcomes will be come tomorrow, the majority of the Senayan crowd, including our BC members who will be watching, will be hollering, chanting and rooting "MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!" and "IIIN-DO-NE-SIA!!":cool::);)...
On that note, i really hope both ties will go the full distance!!:) :cool:

Good Luck to our malaysia team.......Malaysia Boleh!!!!!!!!!!
Especially LCW "must" get the 1st point for us

Picking China over Malaysia 3-0? There goes our friendship :mad:

yes, qidong, please take back your words. :mad:

its also not possible for china to beat malaysia 3-0

I wish some countries can beat China too. But realistically, if they play 3 WS before 3 MD as listed in tournmentsoftware.com, LD/Bao/CJ could have beaten LCW/WCH/HH already before TBH/KKK and Lee/Choong even have chance to play. If they play the 2 MD first, I would say Malaysia may lose 2-3 or even win 3-2. At this moment, I think KKK/TBH and Lee/Choong is a little bit better than Cai/Fu and Xie/Guo. If it goes down to the 3rd singles, CJ not known for handling pressure may struggle against HH.

Don't be mad. :D

No matter who win, I'm stilling waiting to buy your TC/UC DVD's. :)

I worry about ina md2, who will play? Candra/Nova? Can they beat the KOR again?
Or will Hendra/Joko take that position? What a risky decision!

Is TC semi today? I thought it is tomorrow.

oh... my mistake. this thread for day 6.

I have a feeling this is the end of ina's journey, based on nonimpressive performances by Sony n Taufik. But still hoping not happend

I wish some countries can beat China too. But realistically, if they play 3 WS before 3 MD as listed in tournmentsoftware.com, LD/Bao/CJ could have beaten LCW/WCH/HH already before TBH/KKK and Lee/Choong even have chance to play. If they play the 2 MD first, I would say Malaysia may lose 2-3 or even win 3-2. At this moment, I think KKK/TBH and Lee/Choong is a little bit better than Cai/Fu and Xie/Guo. If it goes down to the 3rd singles, CJ not known for handling pressure may struggle against HH.


They can't play 3 MS first unless the MS players also play doubles which CHN will never risk ;).

I think LCW Vs Lin Dan is veri important match for MAS..
LCW must win situation to get MAS opportunity alive...

I have a feeling similar with Guangzhou TC 2002 match between CHI vs MAS. Same feeling that MAS have little chance of defeating CHI in semi.

I hope that this time result is no different with that it.

...no matter what the outcomes will be come tomorrow, the majority of the Senayan crowd, including our BC members who will be watching, will be hollering, chanting and rooting "MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!" and "IIIN-DO-NE-SIA!!":cool::);)...
On that note, i really hope both ties will go the full distance!!:) :cool:

yeah agree...totally...also Senayan crowd want INA vs MAS for Final match:cool:

Thomas Cup
Li Yong Bo said on Press Confrence, if he is surprised with the bad perfomance of Indonesian Thoas Cup Team, espesially when play againts THai, and he want meet INA in Final so his Team can emmbarrasing Indonenesia on their Fanatic supporter
what a comment :mad:

btw in Semis is very difficult for INA, if taufik can get points, its can be INA go to Final, 2nd Single is the Key for INA,

Guess: Sony LOst, MK/HS win, Taufik 50:50, Uncles 50:50, Simon Win

3:2 for INdonesia


Uber Cup:
Guess : Maria Kristin Lost, duo Tomboy Win, Firda Lost, JO/Poli Win, Pia 50:50

3:2 for Indonesia or Germany ?????

After days of 'exhibition' badminton, finally we have reached the semi finals stage. And finally the real TC begins!

My take on tomorrow's Chn vs Mal, I would say the odds is at 80/20 in favour of China. However, if LCW can beat LD in the first game. Then I would rate the odds at 50/50, anything can happen. So, the key is LCW. If he wins, I will put my money on Malaysia springing a major upset. But if LCW gets a beating, I believe the entire Malaysian's challenge will collapse.

I would rate LCW's chances of beating LD at around 25% - 30%.

My prediction;


If LD beat LCW. China will beat Malaysia 3-0
If LCW upset LD, Malaysia to beat China 3-2 (with LWW/CTF & KKK/TBH delivering the points for MAS)As for the other semifinal, I believe Korea can beat Indonesia. I see actually Korea going all the way.

all the best to MAS thomas cup squad:)

whatever happen, Malaysia must prevent the tie tied at 2-2,
coz Malaysia dont have 3rd reliable singles.

Indonesia hv no problem to beat Korea. Korea made a mistake because of choosing Indonesia.

Indonesia hv no problem to beat Korea. Korea made a mistake because of choosing Indonesia.
korea md are very strong..beware..
yesterday i saw kido/setiawan vs english pair and im very curious though.

Indonesia hv no problem to beat Korea. Korea made a mistake because of choosing Indonesia.

Dont underestimate the Koreans. Mentally they are very strong. Their 1st and 2nd singles are pretty decent while their doubles are strong.

*If LCW upset LD, Malaysia to beat China 3-2 (with LWW/CTF & KKK/TBH delivering the points for MAS).

thats mean 3-1, not 3-2. unless HH / Arif Latif insists to play..hehe:D

thats mean 3-1, not 3-2. unless HH / Arif Latif insists to play..hehe:D

LCW win
CTF/LWW win
WCH lost
KKK/TBH win

... yes 3-1. Thanks.

i am expecting final, MAS vs INA
MAS & INA supporters, please work hard cheering them..........

only way for malaysia to win, doubles must deliver both points...for china to win, singles don't lose...fairly good assumption right?

the strategy of random combination of MAS doubles has annoyed Fu/Cai's preparation in semi countdown....let's see if it works

mas has good chance to win if line-up like this;
Choong wei
Hafiz vs Cun Lai
Arif
CTF/LWW vs Cai/Fu
KKK/TBH vs Guo/Xie

mas has good chance to win if line-up like this;
Choong wei
Hafiz vs Cun Lai
Arif
CTF/LWW vs Cai/Fu
KKK/TBH vs Guo/Xie

yeah...BCL hates to meet Hafiz for sure
but for doubles it cud be:

CTF/LWW; KKK/TBH or
CTF/KKK; LWW/TBH or
CTF/TBH; LWW/KKK
:D:D:D

yeah...BCL hates to meet Hafiz for sure
but for doubles it cud be:

CTF/LWW; KKK/TBH or
CTF/KKK; LWW/TBH or
CTF/TBH; LWW/KKK
:D:D:D

or YKH/Rexy Mainaky..:D:p:p

LCW win
CTF/LWW win
WCH lost
KKK/TBH win

... yes 3-1. Thanks.


any pair of msia doubles can win over china's.
But, if there's another scratched pair, i think the chance is bigger!
Really hope the result is like Pemuda prediction!!!
:p:cool:

Who can expect Netherland lost 2:3 to China? On paper it's 3:0 China wins, but in reality it's just 2 points away from Netherland 3:0 China. :eek:

If LCW thinks, Oh I must beat LD, otherwise my team has no chance, then I bet he will lose badly. :cool:

any pair of msia doubles can win over china's.
But, if there's another scratched pair, i think the chance is bigger!
Really hope the result is like Pemuda prediction!!!
:p:cool:

what do u mean by any pair? Fairuz/Zakri also can win over CY/FHF?:confused::confused:

Dont be too confident on it. 2nd MD yes if KKK/TBH is performing but 1st MD the chances i would say is equal 50:50. Dont look down CY/FHF, and LWW/CTF isn't that good also.

Scratched pair? I dont think so.

I would say the pressure is not on LCW BUT two pairs of MD. One of them lost to CHN pair then MAS TEAM already can packing back to msia.

If LCW win, uncle ahfook and ahwah betaen by the CHN pair then who do u think is capable to contribute another 2 wining points for mas? 1 point for sure will rely on KKK/TBH and another crucial winning point from who?

Our VETERAN CAPTAIN or from our ALL ENGLAND CHAMPION?

WCH is good but not enuff to beat BCL.


Hafiz?

for China to secure a win, they just need to take one MD match. it should be no problem taking 2 MS.

for Malaysia to secure a win, they need to take both MD, and one MS.

i am not sure which one is more difficult.

the problem with China is that Fu/Cai can never play against MAS MD, they tend to get a mental block, be it CTF/LWW, KKK/TBH or Fuzzy. so for China to really fight it out, likely they will need to win all 3 MS.

I am hoping that Mas can upset China, but it's really very difficult......It's either going to be China 3-0 Mas, or Mas 3-2 China..

..why quite a few of our loyal M'sian BCers have emptied this forum and traveled all the way to Jakarta to lend their support to the MAS team and push 'em through. They can't really yell to their computers, by typing, so might as well pack up their bags and yell out their support LIVE!!..Smart!!:cool: ;)

I would say the pressure is not on LCW BUT two pairs of MD. One of them lost to CHN pair then MAS TEAM already can packing back to msia.

If LCW win, uncle ahfook and ahwah betaen by the CHN pair then who do u think is capable to contribute another 2 wining points for mas? 1 point for sure will rely on KKK/TBH and another crucial winning point from who?

Our VETERAN CAPTAIN or from our ALL ENGLAND CHAMPION?

WCH is good but not enuff to beat BCL.


Hafiz?

Brother, I would say Malaysia biggest challenge is their mental block. We gotta admit it, mentally we are not strong. We are weak.

If LCW gets a beating by LD tomorrow, I tell you the rest of the Malaysian shuttlers will fall apart. But if LCW can somehow turn the table on LD, his win will spur the rest to play above themselves and things may go either way. 50/50.

LD is the main man. He is the undisputed King of men singles. 2 WCs and 23 Super Series/World Grand Prixs plus 1 AG gold. The man is up there amongst the legends.

..why quite a few of our loyal M'sian BCers have emptied this forum and traveled all the way to Jakarta to lend their support to the MAS team and push 'em through. They can't really yell to their computers, by typing, so might as well pack up their bags and yell out their support LIVE!!..Smart!!:cool: ;)

patriotic............?

Brother, I would say Malaysia biggest challenge is their mental block. We gotta admit it, mentally we are not strong. We are weak.

If LCW gets a beating by LD tomorrow, I tell you the rest of the Malaysian shuttlers will fall apart. But if LCW can somehow turn the table on LD, his win will spur the rest to play above themselves and things may go either way. 50/50.

LD is the main man. He is the undisputed King of men singles. 2 WCs and 23 Super Series/World Grand Prixs plus 1 AG gold. The man is up there amongst the legends.

when LD wins that OG Gold, it will really cement it...otherwise, he'd be just a great one, but not really lengendary...

Thomas Cup:

China : Malaysia - 3:0
Korea : Indonesia - 3:2

China : Korea - 3:2

I wish some countries can beat China too. But realistically, if they play 3 WS before 3 MD as listed in tournmentsoftware.com, LD/Bao/CJ could have beaten LCW/WCH/HH already before TBH/KKK and Lee/Choong even have chance to play. If they play the 2 MD first, I would say Malaysia may lose 2-3 or even win 3-2. At this moment, I think KKK/TBH and Lee/Choong is a little bit better than Cai/Fu and Xie/Guo. If it goes down to the 3rd singles, CJ not known for handling pressure may struggle against HH.
U must be experiencing your 1st TUC in your life.

Don't u know that the default order of play will be
Singles - Doubles - Singles - Doubles - Singles
unless some singles player is also playing doubles and I don't think none of the players from CHN & MAS is playing singles and doubles at the same time.

Your 3-0 prediction just does not make sense at all.

To be realistic, MAS can beat CHN 3-1 or 3-2.

..i thought you're on your way already to Jakarta??..:confused: ;)

when LD wins that OG Gold, it will really cement it...otherwise, he'd be just a great one, but not really lengendary...

Who would you classify as legends?

Hafiz?

Lets hope it doesnt come down to Hafiz. :o

Met YKH and LCW this morning, wished them all the best.

I wonder what would the atmosphere be if the Mas vs Ina rivalry is continued at Istora.

But for the time being, advantage points to their respective opponents.

Who would you classify as legends?

possibly zhao jianhua, yang yang, morton frost, sidek brothers, along those lines...but that's just my opinion...and i still have to agree with you in some light, LD is pretty close to that type of status...maybe in 20-30 years, we'll still speak of him...although you will be eventually right...when he finishes...barring some type of career ending injury *knocks on wood*, he'll probably BE the best...

We have to win both the MDs in order to keep our hope alive...
I'm really scared to see LCW vs LD......always hoping LCW can spring a surprise or at least give a good fight...

malaysia - china 2-3
korea vs indonesia 3-1

We have to win both the MDs in order to keep our hope alive...
I'm really scared to see LCW vs LD......always hoping LCW can spring a surprise or at least give a good fight...

Dont worry pauline, no need to be scared. U can come out from behing the sofa.
I believe we will see the real LCW tomorrow, like the one during the Sudirman Cup.....remember who he beat?? :D

..barring some type of career ending injury *knocks on wood*, he'll probably BE the best...

Lin Dan is already the best singles player in the world. There's no one that can match the sheer dominance he is exerting. Even among his peers from China, Lin Dan is a giant. Gong Wei Jie, Chen Jin, Bao Chun Lai, who were all slated/trained to dominate are not on the same level anymore.

Many may not like Lin Dan, but he is already Godzilla legend.

-dave

Dont worry pauline, no need to be scared. U can come out from behing the sofa.
I believe we will see the real LCW tomorrow, like the one during the Sudirman Cup.....remember who he beat?? :D
haha,juz hope LCW can fight bravely, other M'sian players as well.:)

but i think JT still can beat CJ. its 50-50

but i think JT still can beat CJ. its 50-50

Who's JT ? James Taylor?? :D

what do u mean by any pair? Fairuz/Zakri also can win over CY/FHF?:confused::confused:

Dont be too confident on it. 2nd MD yes if KKK/TBH is performing but 1st MD the chances i would say is equal 50:50. Dont look down CY/FHF, and LWW/CTF isn't that good also.

Scratched pair? I dont think so.

Errr, Dato, Zakry/Fairuz have actually beaten Fu/Cai before in China Open 2007. They then lost to Fu/Cai in HK Open one week after that, in 3 tight sets. Zakry/Fairuz could have taken it in 2 straights sets if they had keep their concentration in HK Open. And that's Msia 3rd pair.

Stratch pair against China is big possibility, Rexy mentioned it bf but I suppose they felt they had to use it early against Japan since uncles lost to Korea.

what do u mean by any pair? Fairuz/Zakri also can win over CY/FHF?:confused::confused:

Dont be too confident on it. 2nd MD yes if KKK/TBH is performing but 1st MD the chances i would say is equal 50:50. Dont look down CY/FHF, and LWW/CTF isn't that good also.

Scratched pair? I dont think so.
i do agree that some of you are putting too much faith onto the MAL MDs. CY/FHF is world no 2 and the chinese are known and proved to be play well for the team tournaments.

malaysia rocksss....

Who would you classify as legends?
Tang Xianhu (汤仙虎) - undefeated for 12 years between 1963-1975. LD is good but not even close!

malaysia will win it...ina fan will cheering for us(they want to see malaysia been beaten by ina...not china) just like we are in malaysia...so...if the 'great' lcw has back...then...wow...maybe we will saw something in MO 2006...lin dan 1:lcw 1...then...lcw catch up from 13-20 to win it at 23-21...hahax...no lar...this too risking...so...i think malaysia will win as lcw will win...

Malaysia will succumb to pressure no doubt

yeah...BCL hates to meet Hafiz for sure
but for doubles it cud be:

CTF/LWW; KKK/TBH or
CTF/KKK; LWW/TBH or
CTF/TBH; LWW/KKK
:D:D:D
agree..
i don't think that rexy will field the usual combination in MD, he will make some change...
hopefully no matter what the changes is, the squad may perform their true form...
give a tough fight to china tomorrow...

MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!!!!!!!!!!

I predict an upset : Malaysia 3 China 2. :)

Winners for Malaysia :

1. LCW, Hafiz, KKK-TBH or
2. Hafiz, KKK-TBH and TF-WW

I predict an upset : Malaysia 3 China 2. :)

Winners for Malaysia :

1. LCW, Hafiz, KKK-TBH or
2. Hafiz, KKK-TBH and TF-WW
For me Hafiz has 0 chance :cool:

malaysia will win both doubles...
either one single will contribute to a 3:2 win..^_^
goin to skip school tomorrow to watch the match...=P

hopefully korea can upset indonesia....
(don't boo me lah...)

boooooo....... korea will regret choosing their opponent

Tang Xianhu (汤仙虎) - undefeated for 12 years between 1963-1975. LD is good but not even close!

Hou Jia Chang never beat him once during that period? I thought those two are pretty even...
Sigh, to think of that this legendary guy never got his INA citizenship despite being born and spend a good portion of his life as well as guiding excellent batch of INA shuttlers.....:(

China meet with Malaysia 4 times b4 this in TC since 1992
and china lost every time...hehe

China meet with Malaysia 4 times b4 this in TC since 1992
and china lost every time...hehe
are u sure?????????

are u sure?????????

read this.:::
http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2008-05-15/15493664182.shtml

China meet with Malaysia 4 times b4 this in TC since 1992
and china lost every time...hehe

yes, very sure!

thats why China must be afraid of Malaysia.. :D

LYB should use Korea tactic, lose in group so they can avoid facing Malaysia..but now..its too late.

yeah, that means malaysia must not be afraid of the chinese..we had a grat record with them!!!

ya...^^
china are fear to Mas...hehehe

ya...^^
china are fear to Mas...hehehe
MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!!:)

There is always time for a first, and the time is now for China to completely dominate. As Malaysia faces huge historical pressure... do or die for them.

There is always time for a first, and the time is now for China to completely dominate. As Malaysia faces huge historical pressure... do or die for them.
everyone will have pressure,aren't?

everyone will have pressure,aren't?
Yeah well... generally I think Malaysian players haven't been very successful in handling immense public pressure at all.

Yeah well... generally I think Malaysian players haven't been very successful in handling immense public pressure at all.
they are coping with it quite well this time....

Do well,malaysia.
So,this is the moment we've waiting throughout this year.A showdown with China.All stars are in court.How should i explain my feelings?
Cant wait tommorow.Will find time to watch those games.Try very very hard.
Hope i'll make it.

Thomas Cup is significant to all malaysians.make it happen guys.
And kkk,u are great enough so far.Keep it up.

Yeah well... generally I think Malaysian players haven't been very successful in handling immense public pressure at all.
They are doing better this year.A lot better.Seriously.
To handle public pressure,i think the solution is to have good 'support system' by ur teammates
And after Pd's 'Kem Bina Semangat' -they've done it very well.

There is always time for a first, and the time is now for China to completely dominate. As Malaysia faces huge historical pressure... do or die for them.

He he, no wonder LYB had some nice things to say abt Msia in the media. Or maybe that was due to China Uber team almost lost to Netherlands yesterday.;)

The pressure's on China, the defending champions. Msia's official target is Semi Finals. Msia players in current form are not expected to win against China, and are the underdogs.

To be fair, both Malaysia and China bear the same pressure. The past result doesn't mean anything if Malaysia lose it this time. Indonesia lost to China on the past few meetings in TC too, so should they be scared too? LCW need to win the first match against LD and Malaysia will see the chance of upset.

He he, no wonder LYB had some nice things to say abt Msia in the media. Or maybe that was due to China Uber team almost lost to Netherlands yesterday.;)

The pressure's on China, the defending champions. Msia's official target is Semi Finals. Msia players in current form are not expected to win against China, and are the underdogs.
Point taken - Malaysia is underdog.
So,behave malaysians.koo_fan included.

Gillian Clark disagreed with her partner that CHN is the clear favorite for the coming match between CHN & MAS.

MAS is the underdog and let's see.....

the pressure are on china,not malaysia...they are top seed...defending champion...3 of the top 4 men single in team...expect to win malaysia by a trashing 3-0(:eek: or maybe something like that...)...and lost to malaysia every time since 1992...wow...will lyb cant sleep tonight???...^^...thinking...malaysia are not dutch,way too greater...china thomas cup team are not china uber cup team...can effort to lost two point to anyone but still win the trophy...but...malaysia...believe in yourself...and be humble...

i said that before it all depends on if LCW can deliver the first point, if he can then we can all expect a very very good match. if not, i'm afraid that it'll be game over.

malaysia rockss....

i surprisely learn that cai yun had an injury at shoulder...in chinese webside...

If our players can play with their hearts out, we can expect a evenly match performance. Win or lose, hopefully good fighting spirit will be shown :)

Gillian Clark disagreed with her partner that CHN is the clear favorite for the coming match between CHN & MAS.

MAS is the underdog and let's see.....

Gillian Clark is always anti-China.

Gillian Clark is always anti-China.

R u sure. I think she is quite neutral already, her partner on the other hand is always pro-malaysia :p

??? I have heard many times she pouring good words onto Chinese players like LD and CH, why you say she is anti-China? :eek:

Gillian Clark is always anti-China.

Who would you classify as legends?

Taufik Hidayat for sure, OG, WC and AG 02/04

I would like to see a Hall of Fame for Badminton players in the future. Lim Swee King is the King!!

So many fans try to put pressure onto LCW... If LCW reads all such posts in this forum, I bet he will be nervous enough to lose something like 10:21, 10:21 tomorrow. :cool:

Is it really "game over" if LCW lost? CY/FHF is not in good form. According to many people who watched the TC simulation match, FHF's ability of delivering heavy smashes is weaker than before. MAS has advantage in the 2 MDs. It's far from impossible that either WCH or HH or Arif will deliver one point -- the last time WCH met BCL, WCH won; If HH can beat BCL in 3 games, why can't he dominate CJ?

From what I observe, MAS fans will worry even if they have Team China. Think this way: MAS has advantage in the 2 MDs, so it all depends on LD. If LD loses, game over! :D

Be fair to LD man. He is already almost a legend. If he takes this OG, he will definitely be a legend.

Taufik Hidayat for sure, OG, WC and AG 02/04

So many fans try to put pressure onto LCW... If LCW reads all such posts in this forum, I bet he will be nervous enough to lose something like 10:21, 10:21 tomorrow. :cool:

Is it really "game over" if LCW lost? CY/FHF is not in good form. According to many people who watched the TC simulation match, FHF's ability of delivering heavy smashes is weaker than before. MAS has advantage in the 2 MDs. It's far from impossible that either WCH or HH or Arif will deliver on point -- the last time WCH met BCL, WCH won; If HH can beat BCL in 3 games, why can't he dominate CJ?

From what I observe, MAS fans will worry even if they have Team China. Think this way: MAS has advantage in the 2 MDs, so it all depends on LD. If LD loses, game over! :D

What do you think of the chances of Malaysia stealing 3 games from the next 4 if LCW lost?!?!

So many fans try to put pressure onto LCW... If LCW reads all such posts in this forum, I bet he will be nervous enough to lose something like 10:21, 10:21 tomorrow. :cool:

Is it really "game over" if LCW lost? CY/FHF is not in good form. According to many people who watched the TC simulation match, FHF's ability of delivering heavy smashes is weaker than before. MAS has advantage in the 2 MDs. It's far from impossible that either WCH or HH or Arif will deliver one point -- the last time WCH met BCL, WCH won; If HH can beat BCL in 3 games, why can't he dominate CJ?

From what I observe, MAS fans will worry even if they have Team China. Think this way: MAS has advantage in the 2 MDs, so it all depends on LD. If LD loses, game over! :D

finally...there are someone that didnt looked down on malaysia...hmm...we have same thing in mind...and cai yun had injury at shoulder...hmm...

What do you think of the chances of Malaysia stealing 3 games from the next 4 if LCW lost?!?!

33%....... I don't see Uncle Wong stealing a point against Bao Bao, but if Yo-yo king can go all out like he did with Bao in 2008 ABC, he'll stand a chance against CJ.

As I said, MAS holds upper hand in both MDs, CHN holds upper hand in both MSs. Of course MAS's chance of winning 3 of them is less than 50%, but it's definitely not as small as 1%.

Before CHN - Holland match, what do you think is the chance of Holland taking even one point?

Think about it. Doesn't WCH or HH has better chance beating BCL or CJ than Holland 3rd WS beating JYJ?

What do you think of the chances of Malaysia stealing 3 games from the next 4 if LCW lost?!?!

Be fair to LD man. He is already almost a legend. If he takes this OG, he will definitely be a legend.

OK, I'll take your word. I'll give him the credit: Mr. Lin Dan, the almost legend of badminton of the world. :) just kidding :)

Uncle Wong beat BCL in their last encounter (2007 Macau). :cool:

33%....... I don't see Uncle Wong stealing a point against Bao Bao, but if Yo-yo king can go all out like he did with Bao in 2008 ABC, he'll stand a chance against CJ.

hmm...it seem u speak out my mind...^^...clap x10...^^...i mean u,ye333...^^...

Malaysia will win 3:2 and meet Indonesia in Final. Mark my word :):):)

33%....... I don't see Uncle Wong stealing a point against Bao Bao, but if Yo-yo king can go all out like he did with Bao in 2008 ABC, he'll stand a chance against CJ.

There are some who said LCW must win or it's over. I said bf in another thread, it may well hinge on Hafiz. % of LCw winning over in-form LD is not high.
The 2 MD must win, then it's up to uncle Wong & Hafiz. Hafiz has clinched winning pt for Msia before when it was down to the wire (forgot which TC)

So, I dont think it will be up to LCW to get the singles point nor will the team get demoralized if LCW lose to LD. Head to head is in favour of LD, 8 out of 11.

Uncle Wong beat BCL in their last encounter (2007 Macau). :cool:

I thought Bao Bao has beat Uncle Wong twice this year (in MO and KO)??
Besides, look at Uncle Wong performance lately, lost to Wacha in AE, lost to Ayoob in SO, lost to CJ in ABC.

I wish some countries can beat China too. But realistically, if they play 3 WS before 3 MD as listed in tournmentsoftware.com, LD/Bao/CJ could have beaten LCW/WCH/HH already before TBH/KKK and Lee/Choong even have chance to play. If they play the 2 MD first, I would say Malaysia may lose 2-3 or even win 3-2. At this moment, I think KKK/TBH and Lee/Choong is a little bit better than Cai/Fu and Xie/Guo. If it goes down to the 3rd singles, CJ not known for handling pressure may struggle against HH.

Don't be mad. :D

No matter who win, I'm stilling waiting to buy your TC/UC DVD's. :)

Too late for apology as damage already done, however, will still take your order :D
Anyway, the key is LCW vs Lin Dan, if Chong Wei manage to win or show outstanding fighting spirit then Malaysia is in business. Lets all gather tonight(USA time) and cheer for Malaysia thru BF!

whatever happen, Malaysia must prevent the tie tied at 2-2,
coz Malaysia dont have 3rd reliable singles.

Is the team event so previous head to head record may not play huge role like individual event. Once the spirit is raised then player may perform at higher than expected level like in TC2002. If Malaysia manage to level at 2-2 then Malaysia will have an edge as the "chee" is on our side. :D

Since there are no MAS or CHN players doubling up, so, the order will be as follows:
1. Lee Chong Wei vs Lin Dan
2. any combination (Koo Kien Keat/Choong Tan Fook could be fielded) vs Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun (China is restricted in using this pair as MD1).
3. Wong Choong Hann or Mohd Hafiz Hashim vs Bao Chunlai
4. any combination (would like to see Lee Wan Wah/Tan Boon Heong) vs Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo (fielding Shen Ye/He Hanbin or any combination from the 4 players would be too risky).
5. Mohd Hafiz Hashim or Mohd Arif Latif vs Chen Jin or Chen Yu.

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Hahaha... If MAS and KOR get to play in the TC 2008 Final, what would KOR lineup be this time? :D:D:D
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[quote=ye333;873441]

Before CHN - Holland match, what do you think is the chance of Holland taking even one point?

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HOw many times do you think this will happen? You have been bringing this as examples for upset but bear in mind this doesn't happen often.

INA will beat KOR.
MS1 INA (SDK)
MS2 INA (TH)
MS3 KOR (MSS)
MD1 50-50
MD2 INA (CW/NW)

[quote=ye333;873441]

Before CHN - Holland match, what do you think is the chance of Holland taking even one point?

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HOw many times do you think this will happen? You have been bringing this as examples for upset but bear in mind this doesn't happen often.

no...upset is been create by player...not it happen itself...if we keep believe we cannot win...then we will not try for 100%...so...the upset will not happen...

INA will beat KOR.
MS1 INA (SDK)
MS2 INA (TH)
MS3 KOR (MSS)
MD1 50-50
MD2 INA (CW/NW)

Hmm, you're probably the only one that predict SSM can win the point against Simon.... :)

when LD wins that OG Gold, it will really cement it...otherwise, he'd be just a great one, but not really lengendary...

Unfair statement, you're "picking stone in the egg". To me, Peter Gade is also legendary even though he has yet to win the Olympic and World Championship. What about those old timers played before badminton was inducted into Olympic? I would consider Yang Yang, Morten Frost, Zhou Jianhua, Lim Swie King, Hartono, Park Jubong/Kim Moon Su and many others as legendary.
Lin Dan is cocky but he certainly qualify as legendary with or without Olympic title, IMHO!

So many fans try to put pressure onto LCW... If LCW reads all such posts in this forum, I bet he will be nervous enough to lose something like 10:21, 10:21 tomorrow. :cool:

Is it really "game over" if LCW lost? CY/FHF is not in good form. According to many people who watched the TC simulation match, FHF's ability of delivering heavy smashes is weaker than before. MAS has advantage in the 2 MDs. It's far from impossible that either WCH or HH or Arif will deliver one point -- the last time WCH met BCL, WCH won; If HH can beat BCL in 3 games, why can't he dominate CJ?

From what I observe, MAS fans will worry even if they have Team China. Think this way: MAS has advantage in the 2 MDs, so it all depends on LD. If LD loses, game over! :D
SPOT ON!

I just wanna add on something here:

Don't underestimate Hafiz. He will surprise everyone by clinching the winning point.

Master Wong has a shot against BCL too.

Both are playing for their 4th TC and it is a group event. So...

Malaysia will win 3:2 and meet Indonesia in Final. Mark my word :):):)

no, MAS must win 3-1 to beat CHN.

if its tied at 2-2, MAS chance to win is slim...

Gillian Clark is always anti-China.

Really? I think you're pro-China :D

Thomas Cup Semi-Final -- INA vs KOR possible lineups:
MS1: Sony Dwi Kuncoro vs Park Sung Hwan -- Sony has the ability of beating Park, as we have seen in the BAC, but, he needs to be more focused and determined. This guy has the tendency to lose concentration easily and once that sets in, it's all over. I think Sony can prevail with the help of the home crowd.

MD1: Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan vs Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae -- now...this is the match which can really go either way. The Korean might be in better form given their recent win over Kido/Hendra in the Swiss Open Final. But, if Kido/Hendra are playing with full determination (esp Hendra), then, I think the INA pair can win it in 3-sets.

MS2: Taufik Hidayat vs Lee Hyun Il -- now, this is a headache. On paper, Taufik is superior to Lee. But, his recent form has been wretched. So, Lee has the edge, although I would like to see Taufik triumphing in front of the home crowd.

MD2: Candra Wijaya/Nova Widianto vs Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man -- the crucial pt here. If INA is down 1-2, then Candra/Nova has to perform like in the BAC and beat Lee/Hwang. Luckily, this KOR 2nd pair is beatable and Candra's experience should see INA through.

MS3: Simon Santoso vs Shon Sheung Mo -- if the score is at 2-2, then this match will be the decider. Simon is no longer the inexperienced Simon 4 years ago. So, he should be able to carry the burden and win the decider pt (if it's needed).

INA to beat KOR either 3-1 or 3-2. INA needs to win MD1, MD2 and either MS1 or MS3. For KOR to win, they need to win both MS1 and MS2 and rely on one of the doubles to win it for them.

One note: KOR might want to tinker the lineup with Lee Jae Jin being pushed to MD1 and Lee Yong Dae pushed back to MD2 to increase the chance of winning MD2.

Dang..I'm so sleepy right now after only slept for 3 hours. Good thing my office doesn't have windows, so I can close the door and take a long nap :) I'm gonna take day off tomorrow for sure since I dont want to miss MAS vs CHN at 11 pm and INA vs KOR at 4 am. Badminton is always more important than my work for me :) :)

Dang..I'm so sleepy right now after only slept for 3 hours. Good thing my office doesn't have windows, so I can close the door and take a long nap :) I'm gonna take day off tomorrow for sure since I dont want to miss MAS vs CHN at 11 pm and INA vs KOR at 4 am. Badminton is always more important than my work for me :) :)

It is 1 am and 6 am matches here in Houston... i am gonna have panda eyes!! Luckily this Friday is my day-off!!

MS2: Taufik Hidayat vs Lee Hyun Il -- now, this is a headache. On paper, Taufik is superior to Lee. But, his recent form has been wretched. So, Lee has the edge, although I would like to see Taufik triumphing in front of the home crowd.


You know why Taufik's form has dropped? Because for the past 1.5 months he has been too busy campaigning for his father in law, Agum Gumelar, in the West Java Governor race. Note: Agum finally lost 2 weeks ago.

Simply put,Taufik did not practice enough.

You know why Taufik's form has dropped? Because for the past 1.5 months he has been too busy campaigning for his father in law, Agum Gumelar, in the West Java Governor race. Note: Agum finally lost 2 weeks ago.

Simply put,Taufik did not practice enough.

Darn, and here I'm thinking the bad boy is busting his chop off working with the new Aussie trainer....So much for the improved stamina.....

It's time for Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan to show their worth as a potential Olympic Gold Medal contender in the crucial ties ahead.

The match against Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae is a huge match. They can't afford to lose this one, esp since they lost in the previous encounter in Swiss Open 2007.

Depending on whether the team can make it to the Final or not, they will face either Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun (CHN), Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah or Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong (MAS).

All these 3 pairs + Jung/Lee and Paaske/Rasmussen will pose the greatest threat in the Olympics. Beating 2 out of 5 pairs this week will be a definite morale booster for the INA pair.

You know why Taufik's form has dropped? Because for the past 1.5 months he has been too busy campaigning for his father in law, Agum Gumelar, in the West Java Governor race. Note: Agum finally lost 2 weeks ago.

Simply put,Taufik did not practice enough.

That's the problem when player allows to set his own priority rather than BPSI, is just another pre-excuse Taufik has just in case thing doesn't go his way. Don't we ever learn?

You know why Taufik's form has dropped? Because for the past 1.5 months he has been too busy campaigning for his father in law, Agum Gumelar, in the West Java Governor race. Note: Agum finally lost 2 weeks ago.

Simply put,Taufik did not practice enough.

So how do u rate his chance against Lee Hyun Il tomorrow :o:cool::rolleyes: ?

I think that's too harsh... Can TH say "no" to this help-compaign request? In fact, Can PBSI say no to such a request? I guess the answer is "NO."

That's the price to pay when one marries into a powerful family. :D

Now it's all clear why TH talked about retiring recently.

That's the problem when player allows to set his own priority rather than BPSI, is just another pre-excuse Taufik has just in case thing doesn't go his way. Don't we ever learn?

LD vs. LCW: 52:48
MD1: 48:52
BCL vs. WCH: 55:45
MD2: 45:55
CJ vs. HH: 55:45.

CHN - MAS: 51.882 - 48.118

If we change CJ vs. HH to 60:40, CHN's winning probability increases to 0.53765. :cool:

The key to playing against Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae:
1. Finish them fast in 3-4 strokes like Koo/Tan in the first set of the BAC SF. Fast, furious and merciless.

2. Avoid being drawn into long rallies since Jung/Lee's defense has improved a lot under Ha Tae Kwon's guidance. The tendency will be the INA pair making unforced errors.

3. Hendra needs to exert his influence, outplaying Lee Yong Dae in netplay. The main reason why the INA lost in the Swiss Open is Lee Yong Dae's superiority over Hendra that night (esp in set 2 & 3). So, please be sharp and alert okay?

Any more input from ye333 perhaps? :);)

All 50 - 50 except SS 55:45 SSM.

Probability of INA winning: 0.51875.

I think that's too harsh... Can TH say "no" to this help-compaign request? In fact, Can PBSI say no to such a request? I guess the answer is "NO."

That's the price to pay when one marries into a powerful family. :D

Now it's all clear why TH talked about retiring recently.

I am sure Taufik favourite song is "If you don't know me by now ...." :D Regardless how much I disagree with his training attitude, I am still a big fan of Taufik.

Maybe it's just me...but...I will probably only be interested in both MD1 matches tomorrow:
1. Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun vs any MAS pair
2. Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan vs Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae

As for Singles, maybe only 1 match will attract me:
1. Lin Dan vs Lee Chong Wei -- often times, LCW will wilt under pressure. So, we shall see how he can cope with the immense pressure. IMHO, he should just turn up with the "nothing to lose" attitude.

As for Sony vs Park and Taufik vs Lee, I hope the INA players can win it, but, won't be too much bothered if they lost either.

Darn, and here I'm thinking the bad boy is busting his chop off working with the new Aussie trainer....So much for the improved stamina.....

The Aussie trainer rated Taufik as the worst in discipline... Then Taufik got upset by this assessment... :D Well, everybody has the right to his own opinion, eh?

So how do u rate his chance against Lee Hyun Il tomorrow :o:cool::rolleyes: ?

TH vs. LHI: 48%-52%... :o Despite his lack of practice, Taufik is still an extremely intelligent player... The dude got brains and loovvveesss pressure situations! ;) And he loves to win in front of National TV and the adoring Istora Senayan crowd...

this TC is going to turn out to be one of the closest fought one in recent history.

and i am so looking forward to it. ;)

Why would he be upset? :D

The Aussie trainer rated Taufik as the worst in discipline... Then Taufik got upset by this assessment... :D Well, everybody has the right to his own opinion, eh?



TH vs. LHI: 48%-52%... :o Despite his lack of practice, Taufik is still an extremely intelligent player... The dude got brains and loovvveesss pressure situations! ;) And he loves to win in front of National TV and the adoring Istora Senayan crowd...

Another key factor to beat Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae would be avoiding too many unforced errors. In the last encounter (swiss final) of these two pairs, Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan had more attacking chances than korea pair. Unforced errors was the main reason of defeat.

Learned that LYD has got a strong backend push while he was at the net, normally player "blocks" or "places" while the return shot comes to the backend side, also when ones tries to push hard at the net, quick difficult to get back to comfortable position for following shots, but this guy was extremely fit and could quickly gain back his position for next shot. This tactic seems manage to outplace opponents in a very effective way.

I think the matches in INA vs KOR and MAS vs China will be furious. Heck I think all 5 matches in both will be nail-bitter...

My heart probably stop countless times watching Peter Gade and then Lars/Jonas battling it out against the Korean. Maybe this time I'll just watch the livescore instead ....:o.

Who's here thinking we'll see a mix'n'match from Rexy and the MAS MDs against the Chinese? :D

given that i will probably be up all night, maybe i should start asking for a vacation day tomorrow.

oh boy.

the tension is starting to build up.

given that i will probably be up all night, maybe i should start asking for a vacation day tomorrow.

oh boy.

the tension is starting to build up.
so kwun, be ready for the overload server later:D
after Bc forum burst!:)
haha

so kwun, be ready for the overload server later:D
after Bc forum burst!:)
haha

We will boo loudly if the server go down during the match, so Kwun, you're warned :D

We will boo loudly if the server go down during the match, so Kwun, you're warned :D

good. make sure you boo me over the phone in case i fall asleep.

We will boo loudly if the server go down during the match, so Kwun, you're warned :D

it is a pity really when these tournaments always happen at wee hours at night. otherwise i would throw a big party and invite everyone over to watch the matches.

given that i will probably be up all night, maybe i should start asking for a vacation day tomorrow.

oh boy.

the tension is starting to build up.

I'm taking a day off tomorrow for sure. I have been having only 3-4 hours of sleep since last Sunday.

kwun, u better sleeps well tonite so u can be here on BC 2moro the whole day:)
we are on course of breaking the most users ever online record..lol:):D

2moro is a very special day especially for us , malaysian!!!!
we are hoping that our thomas cup squad can win over china 2moro...
i very kan chiong now...and can feel the heat!!:D
+ i can`t sleep now:D:p

Speaking about wee hours??!!!??? at least it's not as bad as being in the east coast... i will need to stay up at 2am to watch the semis between MAS and CHN!!! ><
Btw, the TV3 streaming is very clear! Much clearer than TransTV.

Well, i think that Malaysia has a fighting chance... Anything can happen... The three uncles in the team are still good... With their experience and their determination to retire on a high note... I think that both team stand a chance to make it to the finals!!!

As for KOR vs. INA, I hope that INA wins. The tactic that KOR used in the
preliminary is just so foul...

Time to wade in with my (CDN) 2 cents.

In the first SF, CHN v MAS, I've read many so called predictions (more like MAS fan wishes with fingers tightly crossed) and also some very valid ones with solid reasoning. I offer 3 scenarios:

Scenario 1: LD beats LCW, CHN 1 MAS 0. Fu/Cai edges MAS MD1 (whatever combo), CHN 2 MAS 0. Poor WCH, already a huge underdog can't carry the water and Bao completes the sweep. CHN 3 MAS 0

Scenario 2: LD beats LCW, CHN 1 MAS 0. MAS MD1 defeats Fu/Cai, CHN 1 MAS 1. Bao beats WCH, CHN 2 MAS 1. Xie/Guo upsets MAS MD2 and the final score is CHN 3 MAS 1

Scenario 3: LD beats LCW, CHN 1 MAS 0. MAS MD1 defeats Fu/Cai, CHN 1 MAS 1. Bao beats WCH, CHN 2 MAS 1. MAS MD 2 pulls even by defeating Xie/Guo CHN 2 MAS 2. Up steps HH and upsets CJ. Final score MAS 3 CHN 2

For sheer entertainment value, I'd love to see scenario 3 played out. Can you imagine the much maligned HH turning back the clock and upsetting CJ. Bottom line is that I think MAS has to field HH. I see them having a much better chance with his mercurial ability rather than fielding a fresh-faced Arif. Remember Kuan Beng Hong, who had the look of a deer in headlights? All MAS needs from Hafiz is one moment of brilliance; everyone knows he is more than capable of it.

However to get this far, MAS will need to win both MDs first. The fact that they have to rely so heavily on them puts tremendous pressure on them. 1 loss from either and it's probably curtains. I suggest this pressure will indeed be too much. Poor WCH, I just hope he gives a good account of himself. This is Bao's point to lose. Finally, the outcome of the battle royale LD v LCW, is very clear to me. LD will win, which doesn't make it very royale then, does it?

SF part 2: INA v KOR

My first observation, having glossed over the thread, is people are still ticked off with the Koreans for employing their rope-a-dope strategy. People, get over it! After a tough fight with DEN, it's now INA's turn to try to do the biz on them. I hope I don't get flamed by INA fans but of the 4 SF teams, I see INA as the least likely to qualify for the finals. Just my opinion. Looking at the breakdown:

MS1: Sony v PSH. In his one and only difficult match, Sony get hammered by Boonsak. Following that, he was taken to 3 games by Andrew Smith. Does not auger well. KOR 1 INA 0

MD1: LYD/JJS v Markis/Hendra. This is the key point for INA. A win gives them a chance. A loss and it's over. Let's see what strategy Markis/Hendra will employ to diffuse the brilliant LYD. I think the home crowd could push the INA pair through. KOR 1 INA 1

MS2: Taufik (and his reputation) v LHI. In a nutshell, TH's lost it. LHI's form been good. This combination points to a KOR win. KOR 2 INA 1

MD2: Uncles v LJJ/HJM. INA must field their most experienced players to survive this tie. Candra and Nova have their work cut out against the speedy Koreans. They must control and neutralize this advantage to succeed. But the Koreans have been playing well and should prevail. KOR 3 INA 1

MS3 (if necessary): SSM v SS. In the unlikely event of it getting this far, in the battle of the S's, I think Simon will come out on top. The Senayan crowd will accept nothing less and their passion will carry Simon to a famous victory.

My final prediction is either KOR 3 INA 1 or a very slim-chanced INA 3 KOR 2.

SF part 2: INA v KOR

My first observation, having glossed over the thread, is people are still ticked off with the Koreans for employing their rope-a-dope strategy. People, get over it! After a tough fight with DEN, it's now INA's turn to try to do the biz on them. I hope I don't get flamed by INA fans but of the 4 SF teams, I see INA as the least likely to qualify for the finals. Just my opinion. Looking at the breakdown:

MS1: Sony v PSH. In his one and only difficult match, Sony get hammered by Boonsak. Following that, he was taken to 3 games by Andrew Smith. Does not auger well. KOR 1 INA 0

MD1: LYD/JJS v Markis/Hendra. This is the key point for INA. A win gives them a chance. A loss and it's over. Let's see what strategy Markis/Hendra will employ to diffuse the brilliant LYD. I think the home crowd could push the INA pair through. KOR 1 INA 1

MS2: Taufik (and his reputation) v LHI. In a nutshell, TH's lost it. LHI's form been good. This combination points to a KOR win. KOR 2 INA 1

MD2: Uncles v LJJ/HJM. INA must field their most experienced players to survive this tie. Candra and Nova have their work cut out against the speedy Koreans. They must control and neutralize this advantage to succeed. But the Koreans have been playing well and should prevail. KOR 3 INA 1

MS3 (if necessary): SSM v SS. In the unlikely event of it getting this far, in the battle of the S's, I think Simon will come out on top. The Senayan crowd will accept nothing less and their passion will carry Simon to a famous victory.

My final prediction is either KOR 3 INA 1 or a very slim-chanced INA 3 KOR 2.candra and Nova are uncles??

I will reckon to stay for any chance, Taufik & Markis/Hendra have to win, if they could bring the match to fifth game, they could win; if Indonesia can only get 1 point in the first 3 matches, then Korea 2nd double can seal the victory and winning by 3-1.

For China/Malaysia match, M'sia has to get atleast one point from first 3 matches, either from LCW or 1st double. It is tough for WCH to beat BCL.











BC gangs in US, tomorrow is Friday, so it is alright take it easy at work ;-)

Speaking about wee hours??!!!??? at least it's not as bad as being in the east coast... i will need to stay up at 2am to watch the semis between MAS and CHN!!! ><
Btw, the TV3 streaming is very clear! Much clearer than TransTV.

Well, i think that Malaysia has a fighting chance... Anything can happen... The three uncles in the team are still good... With their experience and their determination to retire on a high note... I think that both team stand a chance to make it to the finals!!!

As for KOR vs. INA, I hope that INA wins. The tactic that KOR used in the
preliminary is just so foul...


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Hi hling98032,

Amazingly, only 3 nations have ever won the Thomas Cup, namely;
1. China (6 times)
2. Indonesia (13 times)
3. Malaysia (5 times)

Perhaps, that's the only way for Korea to break into the 3-Nation Club. :p:p:p

Cheers... chris@ccc
:):):)
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candra and Nova are uncles??

That's them.. ;)

That's them.. ;)

hahaa, i see them as Twins like Arnold Schwarzenegger & Danny DeVito because candra and nova look so different.:p

hahaa, i see them as Twins like Arnold Schwarzenegger & Danny DeVito because candra and nova look so different.:p

Uncles = CTF/LWW, Nova/Candra, Lundgaard Hansen/Eriksen (or they grand uncles? ;))

INA vs KOR:
SDK vs PSH: 45-55
The shaky performance of Sony is a problem, and Park has been solid through this TC. But it was just last month when Sony nearly beaten Park in ABC 2008 in a very tightly contested rubber game. It'll be close, but KOR will take the 1st point.
INA 0 - KOR 1

MK/HS vs LYD/JJS: 50-50
Should be the match of the night, between the reigning WC vs the AE Champs. MK/HS hasn't met any real opposition with the exception of losing 1st set against the German pair. LYD/JJS was defeated by a determined Lars/Jonas but their play has been good as well. As long as MK/HS can
sustain the attack, they'll win it with the crowd support.
INA 1 - KOR 1

TH VS LHI: 55-45
LHI hasn't met any real opposition and did blast through Denmark's JP with ease in QF. Taufik forms has been mediocre resulting in a surprising lost to Thai youngsters. Yet, LHI's form hasn't exactly been great since winning German Open, and Taufik seemed improving slowly. Expect Taufik to play it smart and relish the chance to bask in the glory of winning in Senayan.
INA 2 - KOR 1

CW/NW vs LJJ/HJM: 55-45
Many expect the KOR 2nd MD to contribute the vital point, but the INA uncles combo of Candra/Nova has just defeated this same pair last month. The Danish pair of Mathias/Carsten was able to keep the games close against the Koreans, so expect Candra/Nova to dig deep into their reservoir of experience and provide the winning point for INA.
INA 3 - KOR 1

In the event of 2-2 ties:
SS vs SSM: 55-45
Beating the injured Danish youngster wasn't exactly a challenge for SSM, and he did got beat pretty handily by world #2 LCW. Simon has been the most consistent of INA's MS, although he's hardly face any worthy opponents. Despite that SSM will find that Simon and the Senayan's crowd too much to overcome.
INA 3 - KOR 2

INA vs KOR:

SDK vs PSH: 21-9, 19-21, 14-21
Nail-biting.
INA 0 - KOR 1

MK/HS vs LYD/JJS: 21-18, 24-22
Tight game.
INA 1 - KOR 1

TH VS LHI: 21-15, 21-11
No problemo for Taufik.
INA 2 - KOR 1

CW/NW vs LJJ/HJM: 21-18, 16-21, 23-21
The power of INA fans.
INA 3 - KOR 1


SS vs SSM:
No need play.

my predictions :

The Badminton Blog - Thomas Cup Semifinals Predictions (http://thebadmintonblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/thomas-cup-semifinals-predictions.html)

I can't see Bao winning against WCH. INA supporters will help WCH and Bao will crack.

First singles is crucial. If Malaysia won it, they will win the semifinal. So as China

First singles is crucial. If Malaysia won it, they will win the semifinal. So as ChinaNo, 1st double crucial.

I can't see Bao winning against WCH. INA supporters will help WCH and Bao will crack.

Bao bao beat INA's best shuttler (Taufik) last year in front of INA's fanatical crowd.....

kwun, u better sleeps well tonite so u can be here on BC 2moro the whole day:)
we are on course of breaking the most users ever online record..lol:):D

if you are free and could have time to go out, i suggest you to watch it in mamak or some where, to really feel the heat.. I love watching thomas cup in a big crowd, esp with malay

who can take first 2 points likely will win. So, both MAS and CHN must make sure they can at lease maintain 1-1 to deny early lost.

So many fans try to put pressure onto LCW... If LCW reads all such posts in this forum, I bet he will be nervous enough to lose something like 10:21, 10:21 tomorrow. :cool:

Is it really "game over" if LCW lost? CY/FHF is not in good form. According to many people who watched the TC simulation match, FHF's ability of delivering heavy smashes is weaker than before. MAS has advantage in the 2 MDs. It's far from impossible that either WCH or HH or Arif will deliver one point -- the last time WCH met BCL, WCH won; If HH can beat BCL in 3 games, why can't he dominate CJ?

From what I observe, MAS fans will worry even if they have Team China. Think this way: MAS has advantage in the 2 MDs, so it all depends on LD. If LD loses, game over! :D

Pressure is part and parcel of being a professional athlete. If LCW is nervous after reading all our postings then he is not a winner. Tiger Woods, Federer, Sampras, LD, all of them feed on pressure and they come winners because they are true champions.

Yes, to me it is 'game over' should LCW gets a beating by LD. Why? Because the Malaysian mentality is weak. LWW/CTF, WCH and the rest will crumble under pressure. BUT if LCW can overcome LD, it will be a morale booster for the rest to feed on.

Either Malaysia win 3-1 or get beaten 3-0. LCW is the key.

INA vs KOR Thomas Cup SF:

Ina will take point from:

Markis Kido/Hendra Setyawan
Chandra Wijaya/Nova Widianto
Simon Santoso

Sony and Taufik...almost no chance to win against MS1 and MS2 KOR

I can't see Bao winning against WCH. INA supporters will help WCH and Bao will crack.

Cannot la boss. One is a new Honda Accord the other is a 10 year old Proton Wira.

LCW, LWW/CTF, KKK/TBH ... these lads must deliver the points for Malaysia.

if you are free and could have time to go out, i suggest you to watch it in mamak or some where, to really feel the heat.. I love watching thomas cup in a big crowd, esp with malay
yes,watching in mamak stalls,the atmosphere is just great!:)
too bad gonna go to tuition at 3...gonna miss all the excitement..

I think you are underestimating the power of WCH playing in Thomas Cup in Senayan here. Playing in Senayan is not about skill, is about how well you can handle the pressure. WCH has the experience of playing in god knows how many Thomas Cups.

On the other hand, Bao is less experienced, and he is widely known to lack in mental strength. Remember his collapse in 2002 which led to his whole team collapsing? Same situation, same position, same country.

the game start at 1 p.m, is it?

INA vs KOR Thomas Cup SF:

Ina will take point from:

Markis Kido/Hendra Setyawan
Chandra Wijaya/Nova Widianto
Simon Santoso

Sony and Taufik...almost no chance to win against MS1 and MS2 KOR


U have seriously under-estimated the strength of the KOR MDs !!
If u think Sony and TH has no chance, then INA will lose 3-0 or 3-1 !!

Cannot la boss. One is a new Honda Accord the other is a 10 year old Proton Wira.

LCW, LWW/CTF, KKK/TBH ... these lads must deliver the points for Malaysia.

No-la, BCL where got new Honda Accord....at best Honda Accord old 2002 model....hehe

I think you are underestimating the power of WCH playing in Thomas Cup in Senayan here. Playing in Senayan is not about skill, is about how well you can handle the pressure. WCH has the experience of playing in god knows how many Thomas Cups.

On the other hand, Bao is less experienced, and he is widely known to lack in mental strength. Remember his collapse in 2002 which led to his whole team collapsing? Same situation, same position, same country.

WCH vs BCL .... I put my money on BCL winning. Because I think it will come down to fitness. And BCL has a younger engine.

I think you are underestimating the power of WCH playing in Thomas Cup in Senayan here. Playing in Senayan is not about skill, is about how well you can handle the pressure. WCH has the experience of playing in god knows how many Thomas Cups.

On the other hand, Bao is less experienced, and he is widely known to lack in mental strength. Remember his collapse in 2002 which led to his whole team collapsing? Same situation, same position, same country.

yes indeed!dun look down of the power of WCH.....i din think that any advantage from BCL depend on his recently performances...so i think WCH still got the chance to win....Malaysia Boleh!!!

I think BCL has the most experience here. Because of him, China lost to MAS in SF 2002. After that, he emerge as consistence point to China.

yes indeed!dun look down of the power of WCH.....i din think that any advantage from BCL depend on his recently performances...so i think WCH still got the chance to win....Malaysia Boleh!!!
WCH still very inconsistent.. I saw him play during group stage veri lack of confident.

INA will take point from:

Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan
Taufik Hidayat
Simon Santoso

First singles is crucial. If Malaysia won it, they will win the semifinal. So as China

Germany and MAS UC both won 1st singles but both also got knocked out 1-3 :D

I wish msia to win but it will be a difficult task.
INA will win.. Because they hv 天 时, 地 利, 人 和
yeah~
TC n UC final will be----China vs INA

BCL also not that consistent......so me feel that WCH still got the chance to win......can say is 50:50......hope WCH can really prove to everyone that "i'm still powerful ok?"...good luck to CH......

~~~~~ Viva Indonesia !!!

^_^

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I'm going to miss the TC n UC live from 2day.
Going for a trip. SAD~
Will there be any repeat of UC n TC after monday..?

I think you are underestimating the power of WCH playing in Thomas Cup in Senayan here. Playing in Senayan is not about skill, is about how well you can handle the pressure. WCH has the experience of playing in god knows how many Thomas Cups.

On the other hand, Bao is less experienced, and he is widely known to lack in mental strength. Remember his collapse in 2002 which led to his whole team collapsing? Same situation, same position, same country.

Same situation, yes but this is 2008 and Bao has 6 more years of experience in his bag as compare to 2002. For Choon Hann to win, he has to play above his standard which he is capable occasionally. At his stage, no one will under-estimate his opponent and I rather play the card on the fan, make the Indonesian fan on our side then we have better chance to win then thinking Bao will collapse. Choon Hann has to beat Bao, I don't think Bao will beat Bao.
Anyway, regardless how different we see the situation, we all have the same goal, Malaysia to win!

I just walked out of my boss's room and guess what?? She just gave me the ok to pack up and go home at 12.30pm to watch badminton. :D:D

Its great working for a lady boss.

So, to set the mood for this afternoon China vs Malaysia, let me start the ball rolling with our usual Malaysia Boleh battle cry.

MALAYSIA BOLEH! SEMUA BOLEH! TEH TARIK di ANGKASA BOLEH! SEMUA PUN BOLEH! MACAM MACAM BOLEH!

MAS line up out already?

I prefer Hafiz instead of WCH to play as 2nd singles. Perhaps Mr Yoyo will do a "yo" instead of "yoyo" like in ABC Johor.

WCH vs BCL .... I put my money on BCL winning. Because I think it will come down to fitness. And BCL has a younger engine.
I can't see that. Look at Bao's track record in mental strength. Yes, got technique but subject to rattles and shakiness.

I saw WCH beat Bao in Macau Open in October. If Bao lets pressure get to him, game is for WCH to win.

I just walked out of my boss's room and guess what?? She just gave me the ok to pack up and go home at 12.30pm to watch badminton. :D:D

Its great working for a lady boss.

So, to set the mood for this afternoon China vs Malaysia, let me start the ball rolling with our usual Malaysia Boleh battle cry.

MALAYSIA BOLEH! SEMUA BOLEH! TEH TARIK di ANGKASA BOLEH! SEMUA PUN BOLEH! MACAM MACAM BOLEH!
She must be a badminton fan. I think yuo got lucky there. Don't think all lady boss like that. Frequently worse!!!

I prefer Hafiz instead of WCH to play as 2nd singles. Perhaps Mr Yoyo will do a "yo" instead of "yoyo" like in ABC Johor.

True, even Indra Gunawan think the same. That's where I think Malaysia has made a huge mistake putting Arif as reserved instead of veteran players like Lee Tsuen Seng or Roslin Hashim. Putting Hafiz as MS2 means Arif has to face Chen Jin, regardless how tough mentally Arif is(still an unknown), his skill level is just not in par. Unless Malaysia think we can win by 3-1 without playing the MS3 using that lineup ...

Ah?? I heard elsewhere that Arif has great skill, comparable to Taufik. :confused:

True, even Indra Gunawan think the same. That's where I think Malaysia has made a huge mistake putting Arif as reserved instead of veteran players like Lee Tsuen Seng or Roslin Hashim. Putting Hafiz as MS2 means Arif has to face Chen Jin, regardless how tough mentally Arif is(still an unknown), his skill level is just not in par. Unless Malaysia think we can win by 3-1 without playing the MS3 using that lineup ...

I just walked out of my boss's room and guess what?? She just gave me the ok to pack up and go home at 12.30pm to watch badminton. :D:D

Its great working for a lady boss.

So, to set the mood for this afternoon China vs Malaysia, let me start the ball rolling with our usual Malaysia Boleh battle cry.

MALAYSIA BOLEH! SEMUA BOLEH! TEH TARIK di ANGKASA BOLEH! SEMUA PUN BOLEH! MACAM MACAM BOLEH!

I thot the last pic wasnt malaysia :D ....but what the heck, if MAS shows the fighting spirit of the Spartans :mad:, then I guarantee a match like no other match u have seen.....with blood :eek:, sweat and tears !!
MALAYSIA BOLEH ! (3 X)

I think you are underestimating the power of WCH playing in Thomas Cup in Senayan here. Playing in Senayan is not about skill, is about how well you can handle the pressure. WCH has the experience of playing in god knows how many Thomas Cups.

On the other hand, Bao is less experienced, and he is widely known to lack in mental strength. Remember his collapse in 2002 which led to his whole team collapsing? Same situation, same position, same country.

I believe form and strength is more important than "handling senayan atmosphere"

True, even Indra Gunawan think the same. That's where I think Malaysia has made a huge mistake putting Arif as reserved instead of veteran players like Lee Tsuen Seng or Roslin Hashim. Putting Hafiz as MS2 means Arif has to face Chen Jin, regardless how tough mentally Arif is(still an unknown), his skill level is just not in par. Unless Malaysia think we can win by 3-1 without playing the MS3 using that lineup ...

It would be no difference la. LTS and RH will be a sure meat to CJ.
But Arif has a surprise factor there.

True, even Indra Gunawan think the same. That's where I think Malaysia has made a huge mistake putting Arif as reserved instead of veteran players like Lee Tsuen Seng or Roslin Hashim. Putting Hafiz as MS2 means Arif has to face Chen Jin, regardless how tough mentally Arif is(still an unknown), his skill level is just not in par. Unless Malaysia think we can win by 3-1 without playing the MS3 using that lineup ...

We share the same thought. Malaysia should bring Lee Tsuen Seng or Roslin so that we can field Hafiz at 2nd singles to take on Bao. I doubt Arif would deliver against Chen Jin, his skill is still one class lower to Chen. At least Tsuen Send or Roslin has a shot in the 3rd singles

I prefer Hafiz instead of WCH to play as 2nd singles. Perhaps Mr Yoyo will do a "yo" instead of "yoyo" like in ABC Johor.

But I don't prefer. Chance of HH deliver a point facing BCL and CJ are pretty the same. No need to bring HH to S2 and giving 1 point free to Chi.

It is good go have WCH vs BCL because he still have a change although the chance is small compared to no chance at all.

But I don't prefer. Chance of HH deliver a point facing BCL and CJ are pretty the same. No need to bring HH to S2 and giving 1 point free to Chi.

It is good go have WCH vs BCL because he still have a change although the chance is small compared to no chance at all.

U know that our HH recently beat BCL in Johor & also during the 2002 TC right?
While WCH does looks shaky in the last few matches....

I thot the last pic wasnt malaysia :D ....but what the heck, if MAS shows the fighting spirit of the Spartans :mad:, then I guarantee a match like no other match u have seen.....with blood :eek:, sweat and tears !!
MALAYSIA BOLEH ! (3 X)

Ohhhhhhhh ... so sorry, I attached the wrong pic.

This is the right one. Our very own pendekar! Malaysia Boleh!!

im predicting a 3-2 win for china and 3-1 win for korea..

Read Indepth preview of Indonesia - Korea by TheCoach in his blog

http://www-inside-badminton-news-world-sport.blogspot.com/

U know that our HH recently beat BCL in Johor & also during the 2002 TC right?

Yes I watch the match myself. But this is game of probability.

HH vs BCL and AL vs CJ
and
WCH vs BCL and HH vs CJ

I think the best is HH as third single. It increase chance of stealing one point from 2 match.

hahaha... i though this man is Indonesian.

Or maybe he is japanese who is in secret as an ultraman.

will chen jin be 2nd single and chen yu be 3rd single? XD

Ah?? I heard elsewhere that Arif has great skill, comparable to Taufik. :confused:

Arif compare with Taufik? I think you heard from someone who never see TH and Arif played.

what time is the draw coming out??

Arif compare with Taufik? I think you heard from someone who never see TH and Arif played.

me thinking that too...

Malaysia : China - 3:2
Korea : Ina - 3:2

Hello everyone...i am kinda new in this forum...i would like to to ask around if anyone could direct me to Lee Hyo Jung's blog?

what time is the draw coming out??
i think you are talking about the lineup..
the lineup will only be out b4 1 hour of the match if im not mistaken..

Ok ladies, I am leaving my office now. :D
Go for my lunch - banana leaf rice :p , and then head on home for a nice cool shower, make myself a nice glass of orange juice and sit in-front of the telly.

Oppps!!! Today is Friday. I am sorry I gotta skip my Friday's prayers :o:D

Enjoy the game, boys n girls.

Malaysia : China - 3:2
Korea : Ina - 3:2

Hello everyone...i am kinda new in this forum...i would like to to ask around if anyone could direct me to Lee Hyo Jung's blog?
hi, welcome to the forum:)
we had many new members joined in this forum lately becoz of tc/uc08 i think:)
keep it up!!:D

i think you are talking about the lineup..
the lineup will only be out b4 1 hour of the match if im not mistaken..

Yea.. talking about the line-up.. i was reading something abt the draw.. and i ter-typed that word there..

Btw, what is the time difference betw Msia and Jakarta..
cos i'm in Aust atm...

Ok ladies, I am leaving my office now. :D
Go for my lunch - banana leaf rice :p , and then head on home for a nice cool shower, make myself a nice glass of orange juice and sit in-front of the telly.

Oppps!!! Today is Friday. I am sorry I gotta skip my Friday's prayers :o:D

Enjoy the game, boys n girls.
malaysia boleh, pemuda:):D

Arif compare with Taufik? I think you heard from someone who never see TH and Arif played.

The closest future "Taufik" belong to Japan Tago, this kid is very good and even Morten Frost has high praise about him. I think Tago was the World Junior champion 2 years ago?
Arif is a stroke player, no whole lot offense due to his height(lack of). Is hard to judge someone at this young age or simply, I am not impress with his play as compare to Tago.

Yea.. talking about the line-up.. i was reading something abt the draw.. and i ter-typed that word there..

Btw, what is the time difference betw Msia and Jakarta..
cos i'm in Aust atm...
MAS is ahead of indonesia 1 hour..

Malaysia : China - 3:2
Korea : Ina - 3:2

Hello everyone...i am kinda new in this forum...i would like to to ask around if anyone could direct me to Lee Hyo Jung's blog?
http://minihp.cyworld.com/pims/main/pims_main.asp?tid=36404605

MAS is ahead of indonesia 1 hour..
Surely the other way round:confused:

2day is a very special day to all the malaysian especially baddy fans..
china will be up against malaysia in the thomas cup 2008..semi final!:)
im hoping that malaysia team will give their best and all out when playing against china...
go malaysia go!!!!
im ready now...
fight it!!!! let the war begin!!!!!!:p
i`ve check my blood pressure and my body health and everything is ok and fine..haha:p:p:p:p:D:)
MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!!
http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/5/16/sports/s_76thomasteam.jpg

Surely the other way round:confused:
erm, is it wrong?
i tot MAS is ahead of INA time 1 hour??

MAs player, dont answer any phone there. There are santau call around. hahahaha...

im ready now@@@!!!
how about other malaysia fans???
lets cheer our boys !!!in action later..!!!
iahahahahahaaaa

yeah... today i'm half day. boss give green light to watch TC. hahahaha...

Monday is public holiday. wuhuuu....

After friday prayer, straight infront of my tv. very xcited ma....

George@chongwei - thanks...actually i have been looking around to join some forums or blog related to badminton coz i am a badminton fanatic myself...finally thought of giving badminton central a try...by the way could you assist in directing me to Lee Hyo Jung's blog?

i will very exciting to look forward to the game begin...........lets pray hard for MAS.............

im ready now@@@!!!
how about other malaysia fans???
lets cheer our boys !!!in action later..!!!
iahahahahahaaaa
yup.....good luck and all the best.....show ur high spirit in the match...this is what we want to see.....Malaysia Boleh!!!!

Guys any livestreaming??

George@chongwei - thanks...actually i have been looking around to join some forums or blog related to badminton coz i am a badminton fanatic myself...finally thought of giving badminton central a try...by the way could you assist in directing me to Lee Hyo Jung's blog?
here u go>> http://minihp.cyworld.com/pims/main/...p?tid=36404605 (http://minihp.cyworld.com/pims/main/pims_main.asp?tid=36404605)
as posted by sophia earlier..
but all its in koreans language..can u read it?:)

It would be no difference la. LTS and RH will be a sure meat to CJ.
But Arif has a surprise factor there.
agree, LTS n Roslin will make CJ mouth water:crying::crying::crying:

Guys any livestreaming??
tv3 online later got livestreaming...cctv oso got...rtm1 also got..
there are many choices to choose 2day..:)

SophiaJ - thanks..but is there any other blog by Lee Hyo Jung in english? The blog you directed to me is in Korean..sadly but true..i cant read Korean...thanks for your effort though....

if u want more lee hyo jung picture or anything about her..u can check out her thread at the professional forum there..njoy:):)

haha, i keep clicking the refresh button at the tournamentsoftware website to check Malaysia and china lineup later..:p:p
waiing for anxiously now!!:):D

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Malaysia GO GO GO ! I will be watching the match today in the mamak hahaa lets pray the Malaysian will break the great wall of China !

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x318/samanthachong88/8177.jpg
MALAYSIA BOLEH:p:)

SophiaJ - thanks..but is there any other blog by Lee Hyo Jung in english? The blog you directed to me is in Korean..sadly but true..i cant read Korean...thanks for your effort though....
no i don't know others..
but you can view her photos..
she have big collection of it...
the link on the right side,fourth from the bottom...
oh ya,first few photos are a men (her bf perhaps,hehe)
just continue to click on other page lah...
those numerical you should be able to guess it..

George@chongwei - thanks...nope i cant read korean...sad...:crying:..well i hope you guys would post a link which i could watch our boys in action later...cant wait...

george@chongwei,

great photo

george@chongwei,

great photo

thanks.
i hope that later MAS team will win though...haha

wow! is everyone in that picture waving sparklers in the shape of a letter over an exposure of a few seconds? that's incredible handiwork.

yeah... today i'm half day. boss give green light to watch TC. hahahaha...

Monday is public holiday. wuhuuu....

After friday prayer, straight infront of my tv. very xcited ma....
Ur boss so nice, give u green light to watch TC. But I still have to work for the whole day. But I'm using my office's streamxy to watch livescore. Hope my boss won't find out or else I'll be dead. :D:D:D

Thanks alot guys...will try the advices i received...lets cheer for our boys later....

lol very nice pic.. btw when will player's list be up? who playin who?!!? malaysia better be creative again.. otherwise singles hard loh

Ur boss so nice, give u green light to watch TC. But I still have to work for the whole day. But I'm using my office's streamxy to watch livescore. Hope my boss won't find out or else I'll be dead. :D:D:D
got streamyx why want to watch live score, watch the live streaming from tv3 website..:D:D

for all malaysians, rtm1 will have live broadcast.. lets watch it and give our fully support to m'sia team...:)

How about lineup like this:

MS1- LCW
MD1- KKK/TBH
MS2- WCH
MD2- CTF/Zakry Abdul Latif
MS3 - Hafiz

my tuition is cancelled! ho..ho..

our singles potential problms lah.. all 3 singles oso potential problems..

Ur boss so nice, give u green light to watch TC. But I still have to work for the whole day. But I'm using my office's streamxy to watch livescore. Hope my boss won't find out or else I'll be dead. :D:D:D
becoz i think his boss also wants to watch the thomas cup semi final..so give him green light:):D:D
haha...
camon malaysia!!!

our singles potential problms lah.. all 3 singles oso potential problems..
have faith in them, men!!!!
go malaysia go!!!
MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!