Do u feel dat senayan crowd hate msia? they always booing msia player. and they happy yday, when msia uber team losin. what will happen tomorrow, when TC semifinal, msia vs china. they must be booing again to msia team.

i dont think so.. maybe some but not all..

Do u feel dat senayan crowd hate msia? they always booing msia player. and they happy yday, when msia uber team losin. what will happen tomorrow, when TC semifinal, msia vs china. they must be booing again to msia team.
No. no I think they would boo to China... just like Uber when NED VVS CHN..:) I thought corwd must be sportif not too much why cause INA players would be nervous too..

If indonesia TC team make it to the final, I'm sure the indonesia crowd would really like their team to play against Malaysia then China ... But I could be wrong :rolleyes: :D :D :D Anyway I thinks its good the crowd are booing the Msia since it will prepare them to face the same situation in Beijing.

Do u feel dat senayan crowd hate msia? they always booing msia player. and they happy yday, when msia uber team losin. what will happen tomorrow, when TC semifinal, msia vs china. they must be booing again to msia team.

I don't think all of the Senayan crowd hate M'sian players. It's normal in Senayan and supporter have their own right to support whichever team they like. It is part of the game, face and live with it.

Same thing happened when TC2000 in Kuala Lumpur, semifinal Indonesia vs Denmark, almost all of Malaysian supporter booing Indonesian players and the funny thing Malaysia TC team was beaten by Denmark in the previous round (Malaysia couldn't get to semifinal stage). I still have the video of that match if you think I just created the story.

I wonder which team will they boo tmr. Perhaps both?

I wonder which team will they boo tmr. Perhaps both?

why so difficult?
just no need to enter the stadium...............;)

SImple of course Malaysia well I am not going to comment on why because MAS fans know this already and this is very much because of political relationship between 2 countries....as an INA fan and Indonesian if INA didn't win it I'd rather have China or Korea win MAS...for me is INA and 2nd choice anything but MAS and dun ask me why cos I'd get banned if I tell u here...but why are we starting this kind of thing again I thought we are dropping it????

its like how the fans of the big 4 in the EPL hate each other. i rather have Chelsea win the league than Man Utd although i support Arsenal.

they will be booing china team:D
becoz they like MAS thomas cup squad

its like how the fans of the big 4 in the EPL hate each other. i rather have Chelsea win the league than Man Utd although i support Arsenal.

exactly!

TC semi final rounds tmrw could possibly be dilemmatic to Senayan crowd coz they'd "hate" to seee either CHN or MAS in the final... hahaha...

I won't be surprise if Indonesia fans boo both CHn and Malaysia, this stadium been notorious for such unsportmanship behaviour.

Since MAS technically are weaker than China, INA's crowd should commence full booing against China :)

ina want to beat malaysia by their own hand of course...so...no luck for china...^^...

Since MAS technically are weaker than China, INA's crowd should commence full booing against China :)

he he, the crowd booed Msia Uber team against Denmark. Same goes when Msia vs Korea, and Korea is stronger team, from what I read, they booed Msia.

Also booed Msia when TC team played against Japan.
China, hmmm, maybe. It's either the majority will always boo Msia or they chose the weaker team. Uber team they were not selective.

he he, the crowd booed Msia Uber team against Denmark. Same goes when Msia vs Korea, and Korea is stronger team, from what I read, they booed Msia.

Also booed Msia when TC team played against Japan.
China, hmmm, maybe. It's either the majority will always boo Msia or they chose the weaker team. Uber team they were not selective.

They did booed China when they played against Canada... But its not really obvious because INA were playing in the same time... Just sometimes when there's break or something like that...

exactly!

TC semi final rounds tmrw could possibly be dilemmatic to Senayan crowd coz they'd "hate" to seee either CHN or MAS in the final... hahaha...

I wonder which will u boo 1st? :p

I won't be surprise if Indonesia fans boo both CHn and Malaysia, this stadium been notorious for such unsportmanship behaviour.

That would be hilarious. Imagine the crowds r booing at each winner instead of clapping :eek::D

I wonder which will u boo 1st? :p
I think the crowd will boo lin dan first...:rolleyes: They booed bcl when he played against lcw last year...

its like how the fans of the big 4 in the EPL hate each other. i rather have Chelsea win the league than Man Utd although i support Arsenal.

:rolleyes: You would rather have a London club prance around in Arsenal's backyard as champions than some outsiders :p:confused:

I think the crowd will boo lin dan first...:rolleyes: They booed bcl when he played against lcw last year...

The crowd might "hate" Ld more than LCW. But for MD.... hehe i think our doubles will just all the boos. Rexy, make sure u wear a helmat 1st! :p

For this statement - SENAYAN CROWD HATE MALAYSIA.

WHY INDONESIA WHY???

For this statement - SENAYAN CROWD HATE MALAYSIA.

WHY INDONESIA WHY???

Hmm? we always have massive rivalry between INA and MAS :D.
Expect lots of booing when MAS meet INA in TC final.... actualy lots of booing is an understatement :p.

For this statement - SENAYAN CROWD HATE MALAYSIA.

WHY INDONESIA WHY???
malaysia will meet ina in final...dont worry

They will boo Malaysian. We are sworn enemy in badminton :)

I won't be surprise if Indonesia fans boo both CHn and Malaysia, this stadium been notorious for such unsportmanship behaviour.

Unsportmanship? You don't expect them sitting down quietly yawning, do you?

Badminton > Soccer in Indonesia.

That's the fun of having such tournament at Istora Senayan.

No worry about how malaysia is doing in semis.

I guess i should reconsider my support to indo players.
This is pathetic.To know my support is worthless.

They will boo Malaysian. We are sworn enemy in badminton :)



Unsportmanship? You don't expect them sitting down quietly yawning, do you?

Badminton > Soccer in Indonesia.

That's the fun of having such tournament at Istora Senayan.

Good mental training for Malaysian team.

Booing is part of the sport as long as safety of the players is not threatened. However, I was surprise Indonesian fan actually boo at Malaysian players as Malaysians have been very supportive to our brothers. In a way, Indonesia and Malaysia relationship is more like US and UK, you know "abang-adik".
I guess we are wrong about the relationship. :(

Unsportmanship? You don't expect them sitting down quietly yawning, do you?


No, i don't expect INA supporters to sit down quietly. But i would rather see them cheering for their own team instead of doing the booing to any visiting (or INA opponent) teams.

Booing is part of the sport as long as safety of the players is not threatened.

So you mean Malaysian should boo back at Indonesian when they play in KL for example? Booing as part of the sports isn't healthy is all I meant.

Booing is part of the sport as long as safety of the players is not threatened. However, I was surprise Indonesian fan actually boo at Malaysian players as Malaysians have been very supportive to our brothers. In a way, Indonesia and Malaysia relationship is more like US and UK, you know "abang-adik".
I guess we are wrong about the relationship. :(

Not to worry, come Friday afternoon, the Chinese team will feel the full wrath of INA fans. ;)
Unfortunately, some mavericks might boo the MAS team as well...hehe, :p.

No, i don't expect INA supporters to sit down quietly. But i would rather see them cheering for their own team instead of doing the booing to any visiting (or INA opponent) teams.
or cheer to both teams whoever play well. that's what you would experience if you watch badminton in UK. just read from the other thread that badminton is football in indonesia, well that made sense.

So you mean Malaysian should boo back at Indonesian when they play in KL for example? Booing as part of the sports isn't healthy is all I meant.

They did. Especially during 1992 Thomas Cup.

But i would rather see them cheering for their own team instead of doing the booing to any visiting (or INA opponent) teams.

That's part of the special treatment that you only can experience either in Indonesia or Malaysia.

or cheer to both teams whoever play well. that's what you would experience if you watch badminton in UK.

I don't think that will happen in any Asian countries, not in Indonesia at least. The thing is this sport is like the national pride so losing the game is like the end of the world!

hmm...if ina want to earn their joyful for booing malaysia...it ok...but will ina consider to beat mas by their ownhand will be more important???...so...help malaysia to in the final...and...ina make it to final too...then...the final will be the clash of titan...

surprisely saw malaysia are respectful in chinese media and yet...a shame for some whom no confident with malaysia team...

For this statement - SENAYAN CROWD HATE MALAYSIA.

WHY INDONESIA WHY???

ITS REALLY CHILDISH TO BOO. I CHEERED FOR MALAYSIA BUT I CLAPPED WHENEVER THE OPPONENTS MAKE GOOD SHOTS......GUESS I AM AN AUDIENCE WITH CLASS :D:p

GUESS I AM AN AUDIENCE WITH CLASS

Then, tennis should be a better sport for you to watch :)

No, i don't expect INA supporters to sit down quietly. But i would rather see them cheering for their own team instead of doing the booing to any visiting (or INA opponent) teams.

ehmmm ... off course we support any Team except MAS n CHN

just ask to DEN UC's team how they gain fully support from INA's supporter, and the result MAS lost to DEN

or just ask NIG TC's team, how INA's supporter give fully support when NIG vs CHN

and the latest, in this noon, INA's supporter support team Korea when KOR UC's vs CHN UC's

INA also boooo their player .... it's was happen when Sonny n Taufik lost to Thailand TC's

come on man.. this is a game booing and cheering are only the sound effect. just like a movie with sound effect.

good movie will have good sound effect and so badminton game.

Ok, for those who don't understand the Istora mindset:

Before the semifinals: any team playing against MAS is the crowd favorite, because, ...you know... all those things that the MAS government did to INA...

During the semifinals: our crowd will want MAS to win instead of CHN, because MAS is perceived to be the more beatable opponent for INA, so MAS is most probably the crowd favorite... ;) Test my analysis tomorrow! ;)

In the finals: if INA plays against MAS, the stadium will be filled with 120% capacity and surely we know what their sentiments will be... :p IF [and this is a very big IF] MAS plays against KOR in the finals... the stadium will be filled at 5% capacity and almost all of those still watching are probably 90% Malaysians [including ants, samuel, etc.], so... MAS is most probably the [I]crowd favorite again... :p Just not the normal INA crowd... :p

ITS REALLY CHILDISH TO BOO. I CHEERED FOR MALAYSIA BUT I CLAPPED WHENEVER THE OPPONENTS MAKE GOOD SHOTS......GUESS I AM AN AUDIENCE WITH CLASS :D:p

Then u better go to watch badminton match in europe. Like All England. ppl sitted there quitely, good shot then clap hand, like watch snooker match.:D:D

That will be a boring badminton match if it is like that.

Whether senayan or kuala lumpur, it is the most enjoyable when r u in the stadium. The crowd and the atmosphere will makes u feels really great!!

SAMMY, YOU R IN YOUR OWN CLASS.:D:D

read in the newspaper the indonesian crowd was shouting "baliklah malaysia" yesterday when malaysia's thomas cup team was playing..

For this statement - SENAYAN CROWD HATE MALAYSIA.

WHY INDONESIA WHY???

That's funny. Don't you really know why or are you just being naive??? Read newspapers or watch news bro...

No, i don't expect INA supporters to sit down quietly. But i would rather see them cheering for their own team instead of doing the booing to any visiting (or INA opponent) teams.

I just watched NBA play off between Lakers and Jazz last night. Istora is not as loud as Staples Center in LA; it was a full house yesterday and dude...you can feel the heat of 20,000 people inside. And a lot of booing and cheering; it was just too loud....

Ok, for those who don't understand the Istora mindset:

Before the semifinals: any team playing against MAS is the crowd favorite, because, ...you know... all those things that the MAS government did to INA...

During the semifinals: our crowd will want MAS to win instead of CHN, because MAS is perceived to be the more beatable opponent for INA, so MAS is most probably the crowd favorite... ;) Test my analysis tomorrow! ;)

In the finals: if INA plays against MAS, the stadium will be filled with 120% capacity and surely we know what their sentiments will be... :p IF [and this is a very big IF] MAS plays against KOR in the finals... the stadium will be filled at 5% capacity and almost all of those still watching are probably 90% Malaysians [including ants, samuel, etc.], so... MAS is most probably the [I]crowd favorite again... :p Just not the normal INA crowd... :p


Good analysis Krisna!!! I totally agree with you. Also, I want MAS to win really bad so MAS can meet INA in Final; it's not because CHN is stronger than MAS (although that was a fact) but to maintain the rivalry. I think it would be more fun and so much satisfaction if INA can beat MAS instead of CHN for the sake of rivalry. Of course INA has to beat KOR first.

I just watched NBA play off between Lakers and Jazz last night. Istora is not as loud as Staples Center in LA; it was a full house yesterday and dude...you can feel the heat of 20,000 people inside. And a lot of booing and cheering; it was just too loud....

And 'em Jazz let it slipped away from them....aihhh.....:crying:

Anyway, what's wrong with booing ?

Nothin wrong with it, player like Peter Gade loves to play with that crowd.

read in the newspaper the indonesian crowd was shouting "baliklah malaysia" yesterday when malaysia's thomas cup team was playing..

Actually, the most frequent chant by the Istora crowd was "Maling pulang! Maling pulang!"... [Go home, thieves! Go home, thieves!]...

For further details on why they shouted these things... please read the newspapers... I don't want to get banned by BC because of what the MAS government did to INA... :o

ehmmm ... off course we support any Team except MAS n CHN

just ask to DEN UC's team how they gain fully support from INA's supporter, and the result MAS lost to DEN

or just ask NIG TC's team, how INA's supporter give fully support when NIG vs CHN

and the latest, in this noon, INA's supporter support team Korea when KOR UC's vs CHN UC's

INA also boooo their player .... it's was happen when Sonny n Taufik lost to Thailand TC's

Sure, INA cheers for a purpose. and Boo for a purpose too. It is the culture I guess when it comes to sports like badminton.

Watching badminton is no fun if there's no noise, no booing, no 'hu ya hu ya'... It just makes the game more alive...

I think boo-ing is OK as long as it doesn't involve any throwing things to the court...

I tot the noises in Senayan are not too bad this time.
Did I hear the crowd making some noises resembling those ambulance sirens??? That was quite new :o

Of course the usual..."Habisin...habisin...habisin.."....that one is a classic!

I tot the noises in Senayan are not too bad this time.
Did I hear the crowd making some noises resembling those ambulance sirens??? That was quite new :o

Of course the usual..."Habisin...habisin...habisin.."....that one is a classic!

That was Germany player... They use Toa (what's toa in english?), even against Indo... Oh and they also got drums... They got boo-ed for that (Indo supporters got offended real easy:D)...

why why why
dellilah....

just enjoy the warmth of senayan :)
relax bro

So you mean Malaysian should boo back at Indonesian when they play in KL for example? Booing as part of the sports isn't healthy is all I meant.

No need to wait that long, I will boo thru my computer when TC internet streaming between INA vs KOR is on :D

^haha..i guess i'll try to boo tomorrow too:D:p

^haha..i guess i'll try to boo tomorrow too:D:p
btw, who do u wants to boo?:?:D:D
make sure u dont boo MAS players:):D:p

I'll boo the rose ladies :D ;) :p

btw, who do u wants to boo?:?:D:D
make sure u dont boo MAS players:):D:p
any team xcept MAS players of course:D:D

AHhhh, let em boo all they want, if players cant take it then they should not be on the world stage. Maybe they can go play chess or sumthin. Indonesians can call Malaysians anything they want....coz sticks and stones will break my bones but words????

I think the crowds normally support the weaker team, in this case I think they will back then Msia by booing China?

Actually, the most frequent chant by the Istora crowd was "Maling pulang! Maling pulang!"... [Go home, thieves! Go home, thieves!]...

For further details on why they shouted these things... please read the newspapers... I don't want to get banned by BC because of what the MAS government did to INA... :o

erm..for me i dont agree with this statement...political issues should not be mixed with sport.If u hate the government u cant hate the players....so i hope malaysia will try their best ! Jia you!:p

I don't understand why the Indonesian crowd boos Malaysian players...

If Indonesian players were in Malaysia, and they weren't playing Malaysia, I would be cheering for them!

The song that they sang also was very nice....o..o...ayo ..indonesia..ku ingin...kita harus menang...(cmon Indonesia..all we want we have to win)..great atmosphere!!!

YO ayoo...ayo Indonesia..ku ingiiin..kita harus menang.....
I think if I go to senayan..I will support malaysia....
because...some people in Malaysia congrats our victory last night...;);)

AHhhh, let em boo all they want, if players cant take it then they should not be on the world stage. Maybe they can go play chess or sumthin. Indonesians can call Malaysians anything they want....coz sticks and stones will break my bones but words????

Totally agree. Our Malaysian shuttlers, if they cant take pressure, boos, heckling, criticism, bad press etc, they may as well hang up their racquets and take up playing congkak, gasing or five stones.

I disagree with political issue as the main reason.

In the 80s & 90s, while both leaders were very close in relation, "The Sworn Enemy in Badminton" blood was there.

Believe it or not, it is Genetic :)

I won't be surprise if Indonesia fans boo both CHn and Malaysia, this stadium been notorious for such unsportmanship behaviour.

INA FANS WILL SUPPORT MAS tc IN SEMIFINAL :p :p

I don't understand why the Indonesian crowd boos Malaysian players...

If Indonesian players were in Malaysia, and they weren't playing Malaysia, I would be cheering for them!

I still Indonesian fan still mad because Rexy is with Malaysia?

INA FANS WILL SUPPORT MAS tc IN SEMIFINAL :p :p

Feel better now with your assurance! I also feel Indonesian fan will be on Malaysia side as Malaysia will be easier to deal with if Indonesia advance into final.

INA FANS WILL SUPPORT MAS tc IN SEMIFINAL :p :p
so taufik, will u be going to the stadium 2day?
make sure cheer loudly for MAS thomas cup match semi final vs china:D

They did booed China when they played against Canada... But its not really obvious because INA were playing in the same time... Just sometimes when there's break or something like that...

Well, IMO they booed MAS players not because MAS have better squad. In politics, INA people feel dissapoint with MAS Government since MAS patented Batik, Reog Ponorogo, Rasa Sayange song, etc. That's why every time MAS play they will shouting bad words.

I still Indonesian fan still mad because Rexy is with Malaysia?

no... why we must hate hime.. we have had other 2 mainaky training ina squad :D..

Ok, for those who don't understand the Istora mindset:

Before the semifinals: any team playing against MAS is the crowd favorite, because, ...you know... all those things that the MAS government did to INA...

During the semifinals: our crowd will want MAS to win instead of CHN, because MAS is perceived to be the more beatable opponent for INA, so MAS is most probably the crowd favorite... ;) Test my analysis tomorrow! ;)

In the finals: if INA plays against MAS, the stadium will be filled with 120% capacity and surely we know what their sentiments will be... :p IF [and this is a very big IF] MAS plays against KOR in the finals... the stadium will be filled at 5% capacity and almost all of those still watching are probably 90% Malaysians [including ants, samuel, etc.], so... MAS is most probably the [I]crowd favorite again... :p Just not the normal INA crowd... :p
..yeah, fickle crowd, eh??...:p ;)

..yeah, fickle crowd, eh??...:p ;)

Believe it or not... since KOR are in the finals, the crowd will now want to see KOR beat CHN... just for the sake of beating the Superpower... :p Trust me, the will boo CHN and cheer KOR on Sunday...

...that is ...if any Indonesian actually go to Istora... :p

Surely the cloud will be cheering for Korea. Afterall, you want to lose to the BEST team. I don't think at this stage people still care about how Korea manage to get into the final with their master plan.

Actually INA fans supported team Malaysia durng Msia CHN tie. But since we have a strong fans supporter for Team Malaysia... some INA fans cheer for China instead.

Ok, for those who don't understand the Istora mindset:

Before the semifinals: any team playing against MAS is the crowd favorite, because, ...you know... all those things that the MAS government did to INA... [I won't elaborate further, possible ban towards me... :o]

During the semifinals: our crowd will want MAS to win instead of CHN, because MAS is perceived to be the more beatable opponent for INA, so MAS is most probably the crowd favorite... ;) Test my analysis tomorrow! ;)


Actually INA fans supported team Malaysia durng Msia CHN tie. But since we have a strong fans supporter for Team Malaysia... some INA fans cheer for China instead.

Aha! I thought so! ;)

One more example: on Monday, INA crowd was anti-NED because NED was playing INA... on Wednesday, INA crowd was pro-NED because NED almost beat CHN...

So the lesson here is: INA crowd favoritism is very fluid! :p Never assume we are pro-MAS or anti-MAS or pro-KOR or anti-KOR or pro-CHN or anti-CHN or pro-NED or anti-NED etc. forever... it depends on the situation... :p


Amen

That's funny. Don't you really know why or are you just being naive??? Read newspapers or watch news bro...
Confessing how u really feel sometimes irritate people.
Call me naive if u want to.
The language of 'why..why..why' sound naive but that is how i feel for what senayan crowd has done.

and,im a sis,brother.
For the Tc final - Im neutral.So,no more emo.Dont worry,no more 'why..why..'

i cant even hear some bc members cheering for our malaysia team??:p:p

The Senayan crowd is exactly how Krisna described it, full stop.

And that had always been the case for the past half century.

Therefore the question of hating a particular team should not arise.

The Senayan crowd is exactly how Krisna described it, full stop.

And that had always been the case for the past half century.

Therefore the question of hating a particular team should not arise.
i heard the commentator say that some INA fans light some laser on korea players during they serve..is that true?

I think now the Senayan Crowd hate the most is TAUFIK... Are u with me? Is Taufik...

I think now the Senayan Crowd hate the most is TAUFIK... Are u with me? Is Taufik...

Ha ha, no no... Istora loves Taufik! :) Taufik also loves Istora. He has won 6 Indonesian Open titles! Many of those were in Istora...

As the media mention, Taufik previous matches was not very good, and he was carrying a bundle of pressure for that particular match..In my perception,MK / HS shlould be blame tho...They even had a good record against the Koreans. Thank yOu

i heard the commentator say that some INA fans light some laser on korea players during they serve..is that true?
If it is true,then the koreans should voice it out.
But they didnt.So,considered as a gimmick from that commentator?

The laser beam thing been mentioned for the past several days by the lady commentator; Strangely, the other commentator never saw it. Who knows?! But i didn't see any from the live streaming.

yen_saw,

I saw it during Ina vs Korea 1st Men doubles 2nd set. It was aimed to the LYD when he was about to serve to Kido.

why the security do nothing to the ppl who aim the laser at lee yong dae?

The Senayan crowd is exactly how Krisna described it, full stop.

And that had always been the case for the past half century.

Therefore the question of hating a particular team should not arise.

I only watch the matches on TV today... I often hear KO RE A, KO RE A, KO RE A... :p INA fans don't hate the Koreans even though they defeated INA big time on Friday... :o Our crowd switch their support to the underdog today... :p

I'm actually quite surprised by the crowd turnout... for a non-INA match, tonight was very full... :)

I only watch the matches on TV today... I often hear KO RE A, KO RE A, KO RE A... :p INA fans don't hate the Koreans even though they defeated INA big time on Friday... :o Our crowd switch their support to the underdog today... :p

I'm actually quite surprised by the crowd turnout... for a non-INA match, tonight was very full... :)
C'mon now Indo.this is the time we gave our support to those who deserved.

And last sunday,for the very first time,i said Go China Go!

why the security do nothing to the ppl who aim the laser at lee yong dae?
Frankly speaking, the security inside Istora Senayan is a joke:o

C'mon now Indo.this is the time we gave our support to those who deserved.

And last sunday,for the very first time,i said Go China Go!
a lot of people neutral...
korea beat indonesia and china too often to win......
hope the Indonesian people and labours in Malaysia can support Indonesia team in Thomas cup 2010...
if malaysia can beat china in SF and meet korea in Final in TC 2008, full support to Malaysia...:):):)

Frankly speaking, the security inside Istora Senayan is a joke:o
What else can I say?
Probably they're watching the game as well!
The hell with security things...:o