I came across with this article, can someone translate them?

汤杯一日不走出中马印，羽球就永远不会成为”第一球拍运动”

羽球只要一日还被印尼、马来西亚、中国这些国家霸占，就永远不会有赞助商进来（除了中国本土，但太局限了） 。

先说印尼和马来西亚，这些国家的商家和人民都不是很有钱，印尼和马来西亚的消费市场多大？我是商家的话，都 不会把钱丢在羽球，来在马印2国做宣传。中国方 面，虽然影响力OK，可是毕竟球赛没竞争，来来去去都是马印韩在玩，没有欧洲亮眼球星，中国人得不到击败西 方人的成就感和快感，自然自己的球星的威力也减 低了。你看姚明、刘翔、刘璇、哪个中国超级体坛明星，不是靠击败西方人，来得到自己中国人的尊 重的？

所以说，是马印两国害惨了羽球，他们阻挡了羽球吸引赞助商的魅力。国际羽联是时候做些事情，遏制马印中的霸 权了

事实上，最好把羽球让钱多、美女多的国家雄霸天下，如英格兰、法国、美国、日本、俄罗斯、意大利等，也要让 南美拉丁和非洲分一下，这样羽球才有机会成为世界第一球拍运动。

为了羽球的前途，马印也应该想想啊，别那么自私。

Translation: Chinese » English_SetupBidi('source');
Tangbei is not out of the Maldives and India, badminton will never become a "first Racquet Sports"

Badminton is also as long as Indonesia, Malaysia, the Chinese occupation of these countries, will never be a sponsor come in (with the exception of mainland China, but too limited).

First, Indonesia and Malaysia, the businessmen of these countries and the people are not very rich, Indonesia and Malaysia in the consumer market much » I am a merchant, will not lose money in badminton, Malaysia and India in the past two countries this year. China, although the influence of the OK, but not competitive match after all, are always the same in Malaysia and India play South Korea, did not win the European players, Chinese people not beat the feeling of accomplishment and the thrill of Westerners, their natural star Reduce the power. You can see Yao Ming, Liu Xiang, Liu Xuan, which the Chinese Super sports star, not by beating the West, to get their respect for the Chinese people »

Therefore, Malaysia and India are victims of the tragic badminton, badminton to attract them to block the sponsor of the charm. IBF is the time to do something, Malaysia and India to contain the hegemony of the

In fact, the best badminton for more money, beauty and more countries have dominated the world, such as England, France, the United States, Japan, Russia, Italy, but also to make South America and Africa, the Latin, such as badminton have a chance First in the world Racquet Sports.

To the future of badminton, Malaysia and India should also think about, ah, not so selfish.

funny a bit
translated using google translate

Translation: Chinese » English_SetupBidi('source');
Tangbei is not out of the Maldives and India, badminton will never become a "first Racquet Sports"

Badminton is also as long as Indonesia, Malaysia, the Chinese occupation of these countries, will never be a sponsor come in (with the exception of mainland China, but too limited).

First, Indonesia and Malaysia, the businessmen of these countries and the people are not very rich, Indonesia and Malaysia in the consumer market much » I am a merchant, will not lose money in badminton, Malaysia and India in the past two countries this year. China, although the influence of the OK, but not competitive match after all, are always the same in Malaysia and India play South Korea, did not win the European players, Chinese people not beat the feeling of accomplishment and the thrill of Westerners, their natural star Reduce the power. You can see Yao Ming, Liu Xiang, Liu Xuan, which the Chinese Super sports star, not by beating the West, to get their respect for the Chinese people »

Therefore, Malaysia and India are victims of the tragic badminton, badminton to attract them to block the sponsor of the charm. IBF is the time to do something, Malaysia and India to contain the hegemony of the

In fact, the best badminton for more money, beauty and more countries have dominated the world, such as England, France, the United States, Japan, Russia, Italy, but also to make South America and Africa, the Latin, such as badminton have a chance First in the world Racquet Sports.

To the future of badminton, Malaysia and India should also think about, ah, not so selfish.


speechless.......

What a crappy translation!

What a crappy translation!

simple direct translated from google.
maybe you can do better..........;)

simple direct translated from google.
maybe you can do better..........;)

what about yahoo translator?
i think its slightly better

Tang Bei on first will not go out Malaysia and India, the badminton never will become ” the first racket movement ”

So long as the badminton on first by Indonesian, Malaysian, Chinese these countries is also wrested away, never will have the sponsor to come in (except the Chinese native place, but too has limited).

Said first Indonesia and Malaysia, these country's business and the people are not very rich, Indonesian and Malaysia's consumer market is big? I am business's words, Qian Diu in the badminton, will not come in the Malaysian-Indian 2 countries to do the propaganda. Chinese aspect, although influence OK, but the sports match has not competed after all, came and went is Malaysian-Indian Han is playing, does not have the European bright eye star player, the Chinese not to be able to obtain defeats westerner's sense of achievement and the pleasant sensation, the nature own star player's might also decreases. You looked that Yao Ming, Liu Xiang, Liu Xuan, which Chinese super sports world star, isn't depending on defeats the westerner, earns oneself Chinese's respect?

Therefore, was Malaysia and India harms the miserable badminton, they prevented the badminton to attract sponsor's charm. The International Badminton's union is time handles a matter, contained in Malaysia and India's hegemony

In fact, should better let the badminton the money be many, beautiful woman's many country male tyrant world, like England, France, US, Japan, Russia, Italy and so on, must let South America Latin divide with Africa, such badminton only then has the opportunity to become the world first racket movement.

For the badminton future, Malaysia and India should also think that leaves that selfishly.

so, what is the solution?

giving denmark chance to win thomas cup?

i find the tuc format is too old and limited. It should include XD like the sudirman cup.

so, what is the solution?

giving denmark chance to win thomas cup?the solution is a long one, just make badminton popular equally worldwide. It's not denmark has no good players, cost of living is too high there, and badminton isn't a career choice for majority over there.

Maldives n india?It's malaysia and indonesia..Oh yeah,don't forget,for the last 5 years,it's china who always win most of the tournaments.The author should think about that as well.Maybe he can persuade the chinese team to let other countries to win as well.He called malaysia n indonesia selfish?Well,what about china?Wasn't it the chinese team who would always do anything to win in every tournament in the badminton world?Think about it twice...=(

it's impossible, those EUR countryies have no power in badminton to over throw IDA, MAS or CHN...

This is hopeless until USA pick up this sport seriously.

This is hopeless until USA pick up this sport seriously.
they're working on it;);)

Its a valid point but the author's narrow view point does not convince me.

Is the author suggesting that Ina, and Malaysia to give up their best chance of winning an Olympic medal, just to give badminton a chance to rise up in popularity?:confused: If so, that's a very naive thinking.

I 100% agree with this topic!
Thomas cup, Uber cup, Sudiman cup... should not continuously be held in China, Indonesia or Malaysia again and again
Badminton should step out of Asia and get to other countries like USA, Russia, European countries...

I don’t know if I read it correctly. Is the author ‘suggesting’ the Malaysian and Indonesian team should throw their game in order to promo the game? :eek:

European Country are not taking any gain if the Thomas cup, Uber cup, Sudiman cup take place there. They will not set up such high winning price if at least their players not reach the semifinal. That has never statiscally been archieved often by an european country in such hight setting tournament.
Besides being sponsoring the cost of running such an event must be covered by the tickets. Because of the worse archievement of european players less ticket can be sold at show down in Semi- or in Finals.
Nevertheless you can't urged asian player to loss to let Badminton becoming popular.
The Conclusion is to invest more money in Training methods for european player such as letting the team being coach by asian mentor.
What european is needing is such a superstar for Badminton like Boris Becker for tennis. Peter Gade isn't such a superstar due to his unstable performance.

the solution is a long one, just make badminton popular equally worldwide. It's not denmark has no good players, cost of living is too high there, and badminton isn't a career choice for majority over there.

the paid is not high because badminton is not given high attention in europe:o

I am not sure, but it seems like the author also wants the Thomas/Uber cups HELD someplace eles occasionally. I think the author's point is that the TEAM CHAMPIONSHIPS can be held elsewhere

I am not sure, but it seems like the author also wants the Thomas/Uber cups HELD someplace eles occasionally. I think the author's point is that the TEAM CHAMPIONSHIPS can be held elsewhere

The author point is thomas cup should be won by other team

i find the tuc format is too old and limited. It should include XD like the sudirman cup.

Thomas Cup = Men's Team competition.

How to include XD?

I 100% agree with this topic!
Thomas cup, Uber cup, Sudiman cup... should not continuously be held in China, Indonesia or Malaysia again and again
Badminton should step out of Asia and get to other countries like USA, Russia, European countries...

Hello my dear, who win the cup then who will keep the cup. Thats all. If Europe country or others wants the cup, come and fight against mas/chn/ina.

INDONESIA BOLEH!!
MALAYSIA BOLEH!!
CHINA BOLEH!!

European Country are not taking any gain if the Thomas cup, Uber cup, Sudiman cup take place there. They will not set up such high winning price if at least their players not reach the semifinal. That has never statiscally been archieved often by an european country in such hight setting tournament.
Besides being sponsoring the cost of running such an event must be covered by the tickets. Because of the worse archievement of european players less ticket can be sold at show down in Semi- or in Finals.
Nevertheless you can't urged asian player to loss to let Badminton becoming popular.
The Conclusion is to invest more money in Training methods for european player such as letting the team being coach by asian mentor.
What european is needing is such a superstar for Badminton like Boris Becker for tennis. Peter Gade isn't such a superstar due to his unstable performance.

Dont underestimate the Europeans. Look at hockey, once it was dominated by India, Pakistan and to some extend Malaysia back in the 70s. But once they revert to astro-turf, the entire game changed. Now, the Dutch, Germans, Spanish and Australians are the major powers.

In badminton, all they need to do is tweak the rules here and there and it wont be long before the Europeans will catch up.

That's really a very naive thinking!
Initially the author has pointed out MAS, INA and CHN will take the responsibility but in conclusion, only MAS and INA to be blamed, such an absurd conclusion?

I think there's market in USA but somehow no major effort is done to have major event in US after the successful World Championship 2005. US should be the main target for badminton to strike gold and why we have so many badminton facilities in California yet unable to held some major event is mind buggling. Why not another World Championship in USA?

Thomas Cup = Men's Team competition.

How to include XD?i was daydreaming at work:D

i find the tuc format is too old and limited. It should include XD like the sudirman cup.
come on, let's appoint you as chairman of BWF:confused::confused::confused:

Actually, it is very difficult to promote badminton through conventional (normal) methods. Conventional methods such as increasing prize money or increasing popularity in other countries are not going to be very effective.

Let's talk about conventional methods first:
In order to have more people taking up badminton in other countries (i.e. not Super-5 countries: denmark/malaysia/indonesia/korea/china), we have to motivate them. Since the interest is not there in the first place in non Super-5 countries, the only practical thing to do is to dangle a carrot in front of them - by increasing the prize money of badminton competitions. Come on, this is a material world, right? Ok, but in order to have more prize money, we need major sponsors. But in order to attract major sponsors, we need more audience/people to take up this sport. But in order to have more people taking up this sport, we need more prize money......

So, it's very difficult to work. It's a vicious cicle.

So, I think we should have some unconventional methods to promote this sport.

For example, we create controversies. Have asian players talk trash about the (lack-of) abilities of most european players (doesn't matter if its true or not)! Fire them up! Organize round tours of badminton players in non-Super-5 countries and go around challenging their population! For example, anyone who manages to steal 2 points from the badminton players will get a USD1000 reward. Etc etc etc...

The cost of playing Badminton (Shuttles) may also be one of the factor that turn European/US people away.

The distributors do not help the situation either.
For example: Yonex AS-40 was SGD$18 in 2002. They are now SGD$35. They may cost even more in Europe & North America, but it only costs $23 in China/Hong Kong.

I think there's market in USA but somehow no major effort is done to have major event in US after the successful World Championship 2005. US should be the main target for badminton to strike gold and why we have so many badminton facilities in California yet unable to held some major event is mind buggling. Why not another World Championship in USA?
..you want it held, up in the Bay area, this time around??.....;)

..you want it held, up in the Bay area, this time around??.....;)
how about held in anaheim???:p

And most important of all, IBM must hire a true professional manager to be their CEO (for example, like what NBA did with hiring David Stern in the 80's). Now their management are actually just all amateurs disguised as management personnel. A good example is Punch Gunalan. He is very ambitious but he doesn't have the abilities of a true professional manager. Look at his background and credentials. He was a badminton player turned bureaucrat. How can we expect him to successfully lead IBM in a marketing campaign?

the USA won the MD in Anaheim. but what did that do for badminton there? not much to be frank.

Don't take the opinion expressed in the quoted 'article' too seriously because they are illogical and invalid in so many ways. I wonder who would write such a naive article and which newspaper/magazine would publish such a biased article. I just give some points (out of many) to illustrate its unreasonable thinking:

1) What is meant by no. 1 racket sport? in terms of no. of people playing, TV coverage, sponsorship money, prize money, or no. of countries participating in that sport, or ..... a combination of all? Only after you define the criteria clearly, then you can find out the reasons why badminton can or cannot be no. 1 racket sport. Maybe badminton is the no. 1 racket sport in terms of some defined criteria.

2) Whether a racket sport is a no. 1 racket sport or not has no dependent relationship upon if some particular countries are not 'allowed' to take the championship of a particular tournament. This is most absurd idea found on that article. Tennis sport is always won by several players from several countries (e.g. USA, Swiss in last 5 years) in each period over 5 to 10 years, whoever has said to disallow a particular player or country no matter it's a big or small country?!

3) Though several countries such as China, Indonesia, and Malaysia have dominated the TC championship over the last two/three decades. It's up to other countries to develop their sport teams and catch up with the above three countries. Similarly, it's the responsibility of all individual countries (plus international badminton authority) to promote badminton sport to their citizen, then the sport will be more popular eventually; furthermore, the commercial organisations will sponsor this sport with more prize money....

4) A particular racket sport popular in one country is not necessarily to have the same popularity in another country because it depends on many factors such as sport venues, people's physical characteristics, climate, etc. We cannot expect that a racket sport such as badminton would be popular in all countries. We can only hope to get more people knowing and even loving about this sport. By disallowing any one country (wealthy or poor) to participate in an international tournament does not help to promote this sport at all. On the contrary, it would put badminton into disrepute.

In short, there are many biased or prejudiced opinions around sometimes. We have to think more thoroughly before we agree what they say. The only benchmark (besides logical thinking) to judge their reasonableness is, I think, the sportsmanship such as equal opportunity of participation, fairness in competition, and enhancement of sport skills. Therefore the quoted 'article' is not much worth to read (and to translate); its idea is only a ridicule to most of us. The worst part of the article is to promote discrimination against the better badminton sport countries while in fact it does not help the less competitive badminton countries at all. Any kind of discrimination should be despised.

A glorious victory in the Thomas and Uber Cup by India, USA, Brazil, Russia, Nigeria etc. is not the responsibility of INA, MAS, and CHN. :rolleyes: Obviously these countries have to fight for badminton glory!

Look at KOR, ...40 years ago, they were a non-factor in international badminton. Now they are awesome! With no deliberate 'help' from INA-MAS-CHN. They stepped up and earned it, the way it should be! :cool:

The continuous ambitions of INA-MAS-CHN to win the top prizes are natural. What's the point of putting so much effort in their country's badminton without the chance to earn glory for their country? Patriotism is now called selfishness? C'mon! It is not these 3 countries' job to not win!

As for making badminton a worldwide sport, that is one of the main job of BWF. But they should not make badminton a worldwide sport by asking INA-MAS-CHN to share their glory around... That's insane! :rolleyes:

I believe Russia and India will be the most probable next world-class contender... As far as I know, they're doing things the right way, among others by: igniting more interest in badminton by having Russia Open GP Gold [...well ...GP this year] & White Nights International Challenge and India Open GP Gold & India International Challenge regularly... :D

not a long time ago sweden also not bad in badminton

one of swedish player i remember is Pär-Gunnar Jönsson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A4r-Gunnar_J%C3%B6nsson) & Peter Axelsson

hmmm an easy way that is korea win the thomas cup...
then the SAMSUNG will sponsor them la..XOXO