Again, I come across with this article, can someone translate it?


讲真，看了今天的赛事，觉得黄约翰真的应该退休了。看他今天，简单的球都打不到，一直犯低级失 误。

他的存在，只会阻扰了年轻一代的发展，虽然年轻一代的还不是他的对手，他以实力晋级无可厚非，但问题是，他 根本不是其他国家的对手。

马来西亚 在 羽球比赛 的目标只有冠军，黄约翰既然拿不到冠军，又没有提升的潜质了，就应该退下火线，让年轻一代接班 。
反正黄约翰在汤杯对 印中韩丹也构不成威胁了，与其让一个没提升空间的人去输，不如让年轻的去输更好。输输下可能会 提升。

本座在此呼吁大马羽总，立刻把黄约翰退回州队，离开国家队

同时让成年队教练拥有遴选年轻球员的 最后决定权，只要成年队教练要人，后备队教练一定要放人；
当然，后备队教练可以给意见，但最后决定权在于成年队教练。
这点，拉锡西迪就很不对了，他一直死拉年轻球员不放，也是一个罪魁后首

至于哈菲兹，他已经不在国家队了；看了今天的比赛，觉得他缺乏系统性训练，很多非压迫性失误，这是因为没有 训练。只要找个铁腕治军的教练来领导哈菲兹，相信有希望
因为，从对陈金的比赛看来，哈菲兹的技术、回球素质、场面控制依然 是最高档次，只是速度和反应慢了点（因为缺乏训练）

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Says really, watched today's sports event, thought yellow John really should retire. Looks at his today, the simple ball cannot project on, has violated the preliminary fault.

His existence, will only obstruct younger generation's development, although the younger generation is not his match, he will be promoted undisputable by the strength, but the question will be, he will simply not be other national match.

Malaysia at badminton competition's goal only then champion, yellow John, since cannot attain the champion, also did not have the promotion potential, should draw back retires from the firing line, lets the younger generation take over.
Counter-process yellow John could also not constitute in Tang Bei to Indian and Chinese Han Dan has threatened, let the human who with it has not promoted the space lose, was inferior that let young lose is better. Will lose will possibly promote.

This place appeals to Malaysian Yuzong in this, returns immediately yellow John the state team, leaves the national sports team

Simultaneously lets grown-up team coach have the choosing young player's final say, so long as grown-up team coach the important person, rear reserve coach wants certainly to release people;
Certainly, rear reserve coach may give the opinion, but the final say lies in grown-up team coach.
This, pulls tin Xidi very not to be right, he has died pulls the young player not to put, is also a ringleader later on

As for Hafeizi, he already not in national sports team; Watched today's competition, thought that he lacks the systematic training, many non-oppressive faults, this is because has not trained. So long as looks for iron hand training troops the training to lead Hafeizi, believes hopefully
Because, from looks like to Chen Jin's competition, Hafeizi technology, returns to the ball quality, the scene control is still the maximum scale, was only the speed and responds slow (, because lacked training)

translated it using babelfish, and its kinda funny...

Says really, watched today's sports event, thought yellow John really should retire. Looks at his today, the simple ball cannot project on, has violated the preliminary fault. His existence, will only obstruct younger generation's development, although the younger generation is not his match, he will be promoted undisputable by the strength, but the question will be, he will simply not be other national match. Malaysia at badminton competition's goal only then champion, yellow John, since cannot attain the champion, also did not have the promotion potential, should draw back retires from the firing line, lets the younger generation take over. Counter-process yellow John could also not constitute in Tang Bei to Indian and Chinese Han Dan has threatened, let the human who with it has not promoted the space lose, was inferior that let young lose is better. Will lose will possibly promote. This place appeals to Malaysian Yuzong in this, returns immediately yellow John the state team, leaves the national sports team Simultaneously lets grown-up team coach have the choosing young player's final say, so long as grown-up team coach the important person, rear reserve coach wants certainly to release people; Certainly, rear reserve coach may give the opinion, but the final say lies in grown-up team coach. This, pulls tin Xidi very not to be right, he has died pulls the young player not to put, is also a ringleader later on As for Hafeizi, he already not in national sports team; Watched today's competition, thought that he lacks the systematic training, many non-oppressive faults, this is because has not trained. So long as looks for iron hand training troops the training to lead Hafeizi, believed hopefully, because, from looks like to Chen Jin's competition, Hafeizi technology, returns to the ball quality, the scene control is still the maximum scale, was only the speed and responds slow (, because lacked training)

Lol... i thought i was in atp tennis forum. When a player loses, they will say "pls retire already!!...." :)

WCH already announce he will retire after OG - that is end of 2008 when his annual contract expires.
He worked very hard to get to top 16 for an OG place. Younger players like Hafiz, LTS didnt make it to top 16, so, that speaks for itself.

黄约翰??? :eek: LOL.

I actually agree with this guy on Hafiz Hashim.

MAS should hire YangYang again. :D

Again, I come across with this article, can someone translate it?


讲真，看了今天的赛事，觉得黄约翰真的应该退休了。看他今天，简单的球都打不到，一直犯低级失 误。

他的存在，只会阻扰了年轻一代的发展，虽然年轻一代的还不是他的对手，他以实力晋级无可厚非，但问题是，他 根本不是其他国家的对手。

马来西亚 在 羽球比赛 的目标只有冠军，黄约翰既然拿不到冠军，又没有提升的潜质了，就应该退下火线，让年轻一代接班 。
反正黄约翰在汤杯对 印中韩丹也构不成威胁了，与其让一个没提升空间的人去输，不如让年轻的去输更好。输输下可能会 提升。

本座在此呼吁大马羽总，立刻把黄约翰退回州队，离开国家队

同时让成年队教练拥有遴选年轻球员的 最后决定权，只要成年队教练要人，后备队教练一定要放人；
当然，后备队教练可以给意见，但最后决定权在于成年队教练。
这点，拉锡西迪就很不对了，他一直死拉年轻球员不放，也是一个罪魁后首

至于哈菲兹，他已经不在国家队了；看了今天的比赛，觉得他缺乏系统性训练，很多非压迫性失误，这是因为没有 训练。只要找个铁腕治军的教练来领导哈菲兹，相信有希望
因为，从对陈金的比赛看来，哈菲兹的技术、回球素质、场面控制依然 是最高档次，只是速度和反应慢了点（因为缺乏训练）

WCH already announce he will retire after OG - that is end of 2008 when his annual contract expires.
He worked very hard to get to top 16 for an OG place. Younger players like Hafiz, LTS didnt make it to top 16, so, that speaks for itself.

yeah i agree....wch already tried his best today and we cant blame him...he is quite older compared to bcl just like haji hasbullah awang said "players of two generation"..anyway all the best to wch in olympic!

黄约翰??? :eek: LOL.

I actually agree with this guy on Hafiz Hashim.

MAS should hire YangYang again. :D

Get hafiz back on training, i'm sure he will be something again

yeah i agree....wch already tried his best today and we cant blame him...he is quite older compared to bcl just like haji hasbullah awang said "players of two generation"..anyway all the best to wch in olympic!

then peter gade would be "player of three generation" Sun Jun, Xia Xuanze, Lin Dan

Please don't blame on Chong Han . Who wish to loss in every competition ..
I think Chong Han was try his best ! Cheer up and all the best in OG ! Always support U

I agree that young players should have had more exposure. Nonetheless, Choong Hann can still stay in the team and play for malaysia if he still has the ability. We want champion, but not every member in a team can be champion, some can help to remove hurdles. It is good to have Choong Hann in the team, he has lots of experience.

No let them bow out in their own time, which is not too far from now. They have offered their services in good faith and Malaysia needed them anyway. Young players will have their chance soon anyway.

Arif, Chun Seang, get ready. It is a huge task on your shoulder coming soon.

where is lee tsuen seng now? MIA?

Says really, watched today's sports event, thought yellow John really should retire.


hahahahahaha:D:D:D

yeah i agree....wch already tried his best today and we cant blame him...he is quite older compared to bcl just like haji hasbullah awang said "players of two generation"..anyway all the best to wch in olympic!

Please don't blame on Chong Han . Who wish to loss in every competition ..
I think Chong Han was try his best ! Cheer up and all the best in OG ! Always support U

i am not blaming WCH
i am not asking him to retired
i am not wishing him to lose the match

at the afternoon match, i hardly notice him try his best.

i am not blaming WCH
i am not asking him to retired
i am not wishing him to lose the match

at the afternoon match, i hardly notice him try his best.

erm i'm sorry i never said that u r blaming wch..:crying:
yeah i think maybe he is lack of confidence against bcl?

those whom want wch to retired are very...dont know how to describe...wong chong hann is the most respectful player from malaysia(to other country)...if no wong chong hann...malaysia wont have a silver medalist in wc...and what malaysia ms are in between 2002-2005???and those years before this???

erm i'm sorry i never said that u r blaming wch..:crying:
yeah i think maybe he is lack of confident against bcl?

is ok. i know that you are not saying me.
there you go, you do notice.........;)

who is that fellow TGH?????

who is that fellow TGH?????
sorry...tbh:D:D:D:D

黄约翰??? :eek: LOL.

I actually agree with this guy on Hafiz Hashim.

MAS should hire YangYang again. :D
yangyang was used to be a good player but now is more like a businessman
even han jian proved to be better than him in coaching

I mentioned YangYang because HanJian is already in MAS. Where is Chen Changjie now? (These 3 guys are the ones who did the miracle in 1992 right?)

yangyang was used to be a good player but now is more like a businessman
even han jian proved to be better than him in coaching

registered this forum 1 year ago, i seldom make posting. But i am quite sad to watch HH and WCH performance today fight againtz china. Now i must shout out, PLEASE RETIRED, BOTH OF THEM!!:mad::mad:, i cant accept nasional player can make such mistakes. &%$*#&$**

registered this forum 1 year ago, i seldom make posting. But i am quite sad to watch HH and WCH performance today fight againtz china. Now i must shout out, PLEASE RETIRED, BOTH OF THEM!!:mad::mad:, i cant accept nasional player can make such mistakes. &%$*#&$**

Hafiz should retire, thats for sure. He should be blame. Thats for sure also.

But i dont think WCH should be blame for the lost. He is a hardworking player. And we all respect WCH for his contribution to MAS TEAM.

Think before you post, my dear.

you nick is shocic, not shochai,isn't it?:D:D

Hafiz should retire, thats for sure. He should be blame. Thats for sure also.

But i dont think WCH should be blame for the lost. He is a hardworking player. And we all respect WCH for his contribution to MAS TEAM.

Think before you post, my dear.

you nick is shocic, not shochai,isn't it?:D:D

ya...for me...wong choon hann is the one i respect most in badminton...

I think coach YKH should retire, along with Hafiz and WCH. The best contribution YKH made to BAM is hiring Rexy. Since then he is no longer making breakthroughs, just like WCH and Hafiz. MAL team is stagnant, I would think Rexy should be made the next head coach.

I think coach YKH should retire, along with Hafiz and WCH. The best contribution YKH made to BAM is hiring Rexy. Since then he is no longer making breakthroughs, just like WCH and Hafiz. MAL team is stagnant, I would think Rexy should be made the next head coach.
yuppppp...........rexy is the best choice:D:D:D:D

I think coach YKH should retire, along with Hafiz and WCH. The best contribution YKH made to BAM is hiring Rexy. Since then he is no longer making breakthroughs, just like WCH and Hafiz. MAL team is stagnant, I would think Rexy should be made the next head coach.

Yes. YKH should step down as head coach. I wonder why BAM still want to hire him.:confused:

Besides Rexy, Cheah Soon Kit is another suitable candidates to replace YKH.

not only wch...kkk/tbh also have to retired..........lucky rexy not resign today:eek:
Don't make irresponsible posting!!!
Worship them like god when they played well n bash them like **** when they are going through a difficult period.
:mad::mad::mad:

Don't make irresponsible posting!!!
Worship them like god when they played well n bash them like **** when they are going through a difficult period.
:mad::mad::mad:

Yeah you're right. Typical malaysian supporters...

Just look at the facts and numbers instead of judging based on impulses. Don't you think Mal team will run out of players soon ? If LCW is not around, Mal has nothing left in MS.

WCH already announced he will retire after OG - that is end of 2008 when his annual contract expires.

He worked very hard to get to top 16 for an OG place. Younger players like Hafiz, LTS didnt make it to top 16, so, that speaks for itself.



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It shows that some reporters know less than what we know @Badminton Central.
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The splitting up of KKK/TBH was advantageous when Kean Kiat was paired with Choon Tan Fook. Brash with experience. An on-court mentor, if you will.

I think/hope Rexy can explore this further.

-dave

Is not that he don't want to retire.. I think is because MAS team still need him. MAS is going to follow Indonesia foot steps, which is no successor..

The splitting up of KKK/TBH was advantageous when Kean Kiat was paired with Choon Tan Fook. Brash with experience. An on-court mentor, if you will.

I think/hope Rexy can explore this further.

-dave

Unfortunately, CTF will retire after OG, same like WCH & CTF's partner Lee Wan Wah. Uncle already 31 & 32, age gap too far.

Much talk have been said abt KKK/TBH splitting, if Rexy do split them up post OG, it would be to pair other MD players. They cant split for OG.

Chrisccc, WCH made that annoucement to the press earlier this year, already a few times he announce.

The splitting up of KKK/TBH was advantageous when Kean Kiat was paired with Choon Tan Fook. Brash with experience. An on-court mentor, if you will.

I think/hope Rexy can explore this further.

-dave

Rexy's original plan was field Tan Fook/Kien Keat as MD2 to take on Xie/Guo;)A brave movie, but sadly Tan Fook had a fever:mad:

This thread is totally dedundant. Do your homework guys!

You don't see any Indonesian postings asking Taufik Hidayat to quit cos' it's known he will hang up his racquet after OG'08.

You don't see any Indonesian postings asking Taufik Hidayat to quit cos' it's known he will hang up his racquet after OG'08.
I dont think they would even want him to retire.
Taufik wants his daughter to see him on court.Dont think he'll step down so soon.

This thread should be close, such a huge insult to Wong Choon Hann!

This thread should be close, such a huge insult to Wong Choon Hann!

totally agree...

its very hard to see that wch lost tamely to BCL yesterday...:(
BCL trick WCH several times..:(
nvm, i would remember this day, LEE CHONG WEI WILL do wch a favour when lcw meets bcl in other tournaments..

I dont think they would even want him to retire.
Taufik wants his daughter to see him on court.Dont think he'll step down so soon.

He can do that even outside Pelatnas.
Back to his former club, I can suggest.

Soooo, if Wong CH retires, MAS can only depend on Lee CW.
Man, you're still lucky, having an excellent MS.

How about us? Taufik is obviously not his former self anymore, while I don't think Sony and Simon are up to the task...
And our juniors still have a very long way there. This is very dangerous.

1. He is nervous. His movement looked pretty stiff from the very start. Also note that many of his clears are way out.

2. More importantly, his stamina is only enough for one game.

WCH is not the one to be blamed,frankly he is not on the same level with Bao..I can't see there is any reason for him to win Bao..Our only hope come from 1st MS & both MD..I

1. He is nervous. His movement looked pretty stiff from the very start. Also note that many of his clears are way out.

2. More importantly, his stamina is only enough for one game.

There is no need for the request for Choong Hann to quit. It does not matter lose or win. We, as fans, should always support our players.

Comments are cheap and easy until you are there to face the Goliath!

Mas is in need of new blood desperately.There is few available like Tan chuan seng, Mhd Arif as well...

This thread should be close, such a huge insult to Wong Choon Hann!

i agree.. maybe should close Hafiz's thread also.. fans don't have to condemn the players everytime they lost...

WCH was trying very hard to beat Bao , but the chinese is way too strong.. Bao was in excellent form. Can't blame WCH only on a single game

Enough is enough.... Malaysia lost as a team and please don't point fingers to blame Choong Hann or Hafiz. Is it our culture to treat a player like a trash when they cannot perform up to our expectation? Is it wrong for a player to pursue for his dream to be Olympic champion though people labeled his as "old and should retire"? Is it wrong for him to stay on in the team to guide the other juniors so that they could narrow their gap of standard? Is it how we appreciate a player who had played for the honor of his country with all his passion?

I don't know where the source of article come from but i denounce such a shallow comment.

Why are ppl so upset here? I'd never expect WCH to beat BCL, good if he can win it, or too bad if he doesn't cause BCL is the better player after all.

Relax ppl.

This thread should be close, such a huge insult to Wong Choon Hann!
Agreed.
the word'...Please retire...'wasnt suppose to be said to this our great player.
He can play badminton at the age of 31,in a pressured match against world num.3,be in a big and historic tour as a captain.

He is a captain,not a key player.It was not the best from wch.But it isnt the worst.I know he'll do better.He will.

i agree.. maybe should close Hafiz's thread also.. fans don't have to condemn the players everytime they lost...
totally agree...it's enough

I think the biggest question facing the M'sian badminton team is who are going to take over. The bunch of players who have been under rashid (he, a coach?) for the last 4 years are not showing anything of substance. They are supposedly ready for the next TC (they are the Project 2010) but they cannot even take on ANY of the existing old guards -incl WCH & HH- on any consistent basis. 2010 is only 2 years away and I cannot see any of them will be even close to any of the 2nd/3rd MS player of the other badminton powers. Not to be blunt, I think these guys have just wasted their future under Rashid's guidance- he was a player and never a coach.

..(i'm going to write about something which some of you have harped on)..
I was talking with another M'sian baddy friend who also followed this Thomas & Uber Cup and he also had the same thought. He and I thought, amidst the questionable decision, the MAS' TC squad had fielded their "best" lineup. But although they fielded their "best" lineup, this time it failed, again, at least on the 2 Men's Singles. Thus, we both thought, if the last 2 MS players couldn't get it done, perhaps for the sake of the MAS' TC squad's future, the coaching staff needs to realize & move on to the younger players and hope on them rather than still relying on WCH and HH for the MS Singles. (In a way, it's kind of the same story for the PBSI side. Who to keep and who to be left out??)

As for the thread's title, i don't think WCH needs to retire, yet, just because he lost to BCL. Of course, both are playing at a different level.

This thread should be close, such a huge insult to Wong Choon Hann!

Yes. Those who can take action on it please do it. Thank you.

Weeyet should be blame on this thread!:D:D

I am just curious who is going to take over as MAS' 2nd MS

I am just curious who is going to take over as MAS' 2nd MS

Ohhh ... we will upgrade HH to play 2nd MS and coax Rashid Sidek out of retirement to fill the 3rd MS.

Rashid is the one to blame on young palyers promotion?

I am just curious who is going to take over as MAS' 2nd MS
2nd version of lee chong wei:p

Ohhh ... we will upgrade HH to play 2nd MS and coax Rashid Sidek out of retirement to fill the 3rd MS.
lol, but i don't like the chance of HH vs BCL.:p

I think the last bit of this thread is an interesting and important discussion for M'sian badminton fans; even though the thread's title and front thrust are not. Perhaps this discussion on M'sian MS can be moved to another thread- which sub-forum??


Yes. Those who can take action on it please do it. Thank you.

Weeyet should be blame on this thread!:D:D

I think the last bit of this thread is an interesting and important discussion for M'sian badminton fans; even though the thread's title and front thrust are not. Perhaps this discussion on M'sian MS can be moved to another thread- which sub-forum??

Yup. agree. WCH already announce many times he's going to retire aft his last OG appearance.

Block306, since you are interested in Msia MS- Yap KH has said BAM will look to groom "new blood" for 2010 TC edition. Off hand he mentioned TCS, Arif & CHong Wei Feng to be promoted to senior squad. These same 3 names are also mentioned by WCH.

And he said they need to look for "proper coach" to groom these youngsters, so maybe new MS coach will be hired -hmmmm I was thinking WCH, if he wants to be a coach. Misbun has his hands full with LCW, WMC, other youngsters.

Some may say it's late action by BAM. There are quite a no of MS players in back-up squad & BJSS, but they dont seem to be good enuf, even those who are given to Misbun to train. No easy to look for another of WCH(the WCH in his younger days) & LCW's calibre.

..is it possible to send all 3 MAS juniors to the upcoming U.S. Open???.. ;)

..is it possible to send all 3 MAS juniors to the upcoming U.S. Open???.. ;)

You want 4,5,6,7 also can, pester BAM :D. Yap KH said they will be exposed to higher level tourneys,i.e. SS, GP Gold. Maybe you're curious to see the Chong Wei Feng that beat Chen Jin in action. Back-up players also got Beryno WOng, Liew Daren, Chong LI Qun, Chan Kwong Beng, none making any waves yet.

But.... maybe KLRC will send the 16 yr old Zulfaldi, he's really up & coming MS, in future years can overtake the current MJ.

I believe that WCH is going to retire after the Olympic...

I like the idea of upgrading Hafiz to 2nd MS and promote one of the younger players to take the 3rd spot...

Firstly, I think the thread is not necessary as WCH has already annouced he wants to retire after Olympic. Yes WCH is over his prime but we do not need a thread like this to ask a good sportman like WCH to retire. Considering the fact that WCH has contributed a lot to our nation in the arena of badminton. I think even if WCH wants to retire from being a player he should be hired immediately by BAM as a caoch. He has excellent skills and vast experiences. Besides he has the temperament and the brain to be a good coach. I still remember famous coaches like Li mao and Indra have mentioned WCH has potential to be a coach. I think WCH is an asset to BAM because not every good players can be a good coach. WCH has it all and he has good relationship with other players and coaches.

Secondly, let us open a new thread to discuss malaysian young men single talents. I think we are in dire need of good young talents in the single department. Can someone who knows how to do this take action?:)

Secondly, let us open a new thread to discuss malaysian young men single talents. I think we are in dire need of good young talents in the single department. Can someone who knows how to do this take action?:)

I think there's already a "Malaysian Juniors" thread in Professional Player forum.:)

I believe that WCH is going to retire after the Olympic...

I like the idea of upgrading Hafiz to 2nd MS and promote one of the younger players to take the 3rd spot...
From the way Misbun reacted after the SF, HH will not be considered for next TC 2010:o

From the way Misbun reacted after the SF, HH will not be considered for next TC 2010:o
It still has another 2 years. Hopefully the youngsters can fill in the gap left by WCH & HH...

Let Arif, Tan Chun Seang, Kwong Beng loose -- they are dying to have a go. Let them play at the premium tournaments. Let them experience, learn, and win confidence. There is no other way.

Will Wong Tat Meng make way for Wong Choon Han when WCH retires to be coach ?

Hope Choon Han will be made coach but not at the expense of WTM - coz if WCH leaves, WTM does not have anyone of substance to train.

It still has another 2 years. Hopefully the youngsters can fill in the gap left by WCH & HH...

Yap KH also said to that effect, they're looking at the youngsters for another 3 MS - to be MS2, MS3 and reserve, not Hafiz. TCS, Arif & Chong Wei Feng are the names mentioned.

Would be good if WCH wants to coach aft he retires. Rashid has too many under his charge.

Will Wong Tat Meng make way for Wong Choon Han when WCH retires to be coach ?

Hope Choon Han will be made coach but not at the expense of WTM - coz if WCH leaves, WTM does not have anyone of substance to train.

WCH can be assistant to WTat Meng, with 3 or 4 back-up promoted to senior squad, they have more to train. But aft WMC left to train with Misbun, looks like Tat Meng may leave BAM aft OG. Now all focus are on OG. The way Yap KH saying like will hire new coach - if you read NST & Berita Harian.

But that is... if WCH wants to be a coach, unlike CTF, WCH didnt indicate he wants to be in baddy line aft retirement.

Will Wong Tat Meng make way for Wong Choon Han when WCH retires to be coach ?

Hope Choon Han will be made coach but not at the expense of WTM - coz if WCH leaves, WTM does not have anyone of substance to train.

Oh No No No! WCH should be made a coach but this should not at the expense of Wong Tat Meng. In fact, I think WTM has coached both WCH and Wong Mew Choo well all these years. WCH to assist WTM to coach a few newly promoted players from Rashid squad is one of the options. Also, I totally agree that Rahisd has his hand full with too many players( men and women players) at the moment.

I am not saying Rashid is not doing a good job. But the purpose of setting up a back up squad is produce and get ready the young talents for national team isn't it? There is no better moment than now to sent some young talented players to national team. WTM and WCH can coach these young talents.

I believe that WCH is going to retire after the Olympic...

I like the idea of upgrading Hafiz to 2nd MS and promote one of the younger players to take the 3rd spot...

Why dont upgrade him as 1st MS?

MALAYSIA BOLEH!!:D:D

It's kinda rude to ask WCH to retire. and do u really think he wants to carry on the burden at this age? if someone else better than him, do u think he will not make way for the youngsters? so... pls think hard before u guys critisize him :mad:

I watched him played against BCL... trust me, he had given it all and on several occassions (when BCL successfully retrieved dead shots and won the points), WCH was mad n "curse"... so, give him a break... he will retire after OG08 and Arif will take over him, i suppose :)

Hafiz is a so-so player now. No offence but I think he is not capable of rocking the Chinese players -- he has no great stamina.

Only player Malaysia can rely on in singles is LCW. As such we must start to breed the youngies like Arif, Kwong Beng, etc. And needless to say, they will definitely be given their chances very soon.

In doubles, it is different. Even though KKK_TBH lost, there were moments where I felt they were very capable. I think it is a matter of time before they come back to their best. Just as I had written Zakry-Fairuzizuan off, they came back to prove me wrong with a strong showing in the TC beating the 2nd best chinese pair. So I feel in the doubles, we may have to bear a bit of patience.

If KKK/TBH is in the recovery process, Hafiz is totally out!

He is not ''staminaless'', he is ''spiritless''.

Man, at least u fight!

Let the juniors to go. Forget Hafiz.

I thought WCH will be a sport commentator if he is retiring.

He is not ''staminaless'', he is ''spiritless''.

Man, at least u fight!

Let the juniors to go. Forget Hafiz.

How to fight when he cant even breath properly? ;) he looks very "heavy" on court :D He has to lose some weight and do more jogging :rolleyes:

Hafiz is a so-so player now. No offence but I think he is not capable of rocking the Chinese players -- he has no great stamina.

Only player Malaysia can rely on in singles is LCW. As such we must start to breed the youngies like Arif, Kwong Beng, etc. And needless to say, they will definitely be given their chances very soon.

In doubles, it is different. Even though KKK_TBH lost, there were moments where I felt they were very capable. I think it is a matter of time before they come back to their best. Just as I had written Zakry-Fairuzizuan off, they came back to prove me wrong with a strong showing in the TC beating the 2nd best chinese pair. So I feel in the doubles, we may have to bear a bit of patience.

If Hafiz still representing Malaysia in TC2010 then our MS department must be pretty bad. Hafiz has consistently reminding us not to count on him and is about time we acknowledge that even a die hard Hafiz fan like me.

If Hafiz still representing Malaysia in TC2010 then our MS department must be pretty bad. Hafiz has consistently reminding us not to count on him and is about time we acknowledge that even a die hard Hafiz fan like me.

agree............

How to fight when he cant even breath properly? ;) he looks very "heavy" on court :D He has to lose some weight and do more jogging :rolleyes:

Forget abt TC if Hafiz Is still in the lineup.:D:D

Forget abt TC if Hafiz Is still in the lineup.:D:D

arrrllooo Hasbullah, i saw u inside the stadium and took a snap shot of U... I mean, the "real" hasbullah Awang :D He is still my fav Msia commentator...

2 years might be abit rush for us to get any player calibre to be even near the class of LCW. Even INA with retirement of TH, i believe it needs more time to groom any players to near his standard..
I can said that the current bunch of juniors still will find it hard to beat the Hashim Brothers even on the local circuit
Unless BAM do some major changes, I.E : sending more Backup Players to oversea GP/Gold tournament for exposure. Else, we can forget about retaining the TC in our own homeground in the next edition of TC.

arrrllooo Hasbullah, i saw u inside the stadium and took a snap shot of U... I mean, the "real" hasbullah Awang :D He is still my fav Msia commentator...

I like him also. The best commentator in mas.:D

No point beating on dead horse, WCH and Hafiz should go for the good of Malaysia badminton.

No point beating on dead horse, WCH and Hafiz should go for the good of Malaysia badminton.

Correct. Correct. Correct.

No point beating on dead horse, WCH and Hafiz should go for the good of Malaysia badminton.
Would u consider to have them out in more proper way.
Not..Get out!!!

At least for Choon hann.I would understand in hafiz's case by the way.

Forget abt TC if Hafiz Is still in the lineup.:D:D

If Hafiz still representing Malaysia in TC2010 then our MS department must be pretty bad. Hafiz has consistently reminding us not to count on him and is about time we acknowledge that even a die hard Hafiz fan like me.

Hiyaa, Yap KH already said publically, they want to groom 3 youngster/back-up MS for 2010 TC. Hafiz is not in the list, dont think he will be, unless these next 2 years under KLRC he makes some spectacular wins.

If they want to consider, might as well add KLRC's young & upcoming Zulfadli to the list.

I'll like to see WCH coaching these young guns though, if he's into coaching.

In doubles, it is different. Even though KKK_TBH lost, there were moments where I felt they were very capable. I think it is a matter of time before they come back to their best. Just as I had written Zakry-Fairuzizuan off, they came back to prove me wrong with a strong showing in the TC beating the 2nd best chinese pair. So I feel in the doubles, we may have to bear a bit of patience.

Msia MD no problem, so many pairs to choose from. Aft uncles retire, got 5 senior pairs. 3 more in back-up(Razif/Khoo, C Peng Soon/Hung Pin, LKW/MakHC) & 1 from BJSS (Goh/Ong). ANd that's just the more well known juniors.
Rexy & his assistants can take their pick or form new combo.

Hiyaa, Yap KH already said publically, they want to groom 3 youngster/back-up MS for 2010 TC. Hafiz is not in the list, dont think he will be, unless these next 2 years under KLRC he makes some spectacular wins.

If they want to consider, might as well add KLRC's young & upcoming Zulfadli to the list.

I'll like to see WCH coaching these young guns though, if he's into coaching.
No.. I do not think Zulfadhi will be ready for TC2010. BAM got special plan for him in 2012 London OG;)

Msia MD no problem, so many pairs to choose from. Aft uncles retire, got 5 senior pairs. 3 more in back-up(Razif/Khoo, C Peng Soon/Hung Pin, LKW/MakHC) & 1 from BJSS (Goh/Ong). ANd that's just the more well known juniors.
Rexy & his assistants can take their pick or form new combo.
Do u really think rexy will last that long here in Malaysia?

Do u really think rexy will last that long here in Malaysia?

Rexy's contract with BAM is till end of 2009, he had indicated bf he will stay till then. There should terms & conditions in his contract that deter him to jump ship bf the end of 2 years. The way Rexy is doing his planning, looking towards 2012 OG, looks like he wouldnt go off so fast, that is, at least not right aft OG 2008.

and......If it does happen, Pang, Chang, Jeremy Gan can continue the work, they know Rexy's style. Or try to get Jailani/Razif Sidek or lure Tan Kim Her back to coach, it's not the end of the world. Same as when Li Mao left, it's not the end of the world for LCW.
Uncle CTF wants to be coach aft retirement, he can coach the youngsters. If his future wife wants to be coach, Msia can have OG champ as WD coach.

u r right. i am not sure whether Rexy would continue to be Malaysian Coach when his contract expire though i hope he will. He is easily the nicest coach and very innovative.

Well go back to the original topic. I have always like Wong Choon Hann personality and I even heard the BWF commentator mentioned that Choon Hann is one of the nicest player she has met. Choon Hann has even received praises from Kuala Lumpur State Association where he is from and also from the DBKL.

He maybe over his prime but i am sure his moral support as a captain has given alot of benefit to those who are young and around him. I hope he will continue his journey to the badminton world by coaching the young one in BAM.

If Choong Hann choose to be a coach after his retirement, i would suggest him to coach in other country. After all, the foreign coaches are far more recognize than the local coaches. TKH, CSK learned their lessons and perhaps after proven themselves in other country they probably get better appreciation from the BAM. ...

Interesting, not knowing the situation w/ Indonesian coaching I would say Rexy would stick around until 2010 TC to test the potential of the Malaysian doubles. If they bomb ala KKK/TBH or do reasonably well then it would be a perfect time to jump ship back home to prep the Indonesian squad for Olympic glory in 2012.



Rexy's contract with BAM is till end of 2009, he had indicated bf he will stay till then. There should terms & conditions in his contract that deter him to jump ship bf the end of 2 years. The way Rexy is doing his planning, looking towards 2012 OG, looks like he wouldnt go off so fast, that is, at least not right aft OG 2008.

and......If it does happen, Pang, Chang, Jeremy Gan can continue the work, they know Rexy's style. Or try to get Jailani/Razif Sidek or lure Tan Kim Her back to coach, it's not the end of the world. Same as when Li Mao left, it's not the end of the world for LCW.
Uncle CTF wants to be coach aft retirement, he can coach the youngsters. If his future wife wants to be coach, Msia can have OG champ as WD coach.

No point beating on dead horse, WCH and Hafiz should go for the good of Malaysia badminton.


I fully support your proposal that WCH and Hafiz should retire and give way to the youngsters soonest possible as Malaysia is lack of good singles players apart from LCW. For the change, BAM should act without any further delays. Wish that we could train these youngsters like the former national player, Foo Kok Keong who was so committed to the game and adopted the never-say-die attitude. It is time for BAM to discover two more Foo Kok Keongs to back up LCW in the men's singles.