I first noticed this when Chinese female players play against Malaysian...
During the intervene or break, please attention to the small towels that was given/passed to the players...
Notes: it's not the normal big Yonex towel that the player was carrying with them but it's a white small towel which will be passed to them by their coaches or a fat Chinese guy whom are wearing glasses...
Once the player have used that *towel*, they will pass it back to this fat guy...
I smelt something fishy there as if the they could have put something in the towel... maybe something aromatic to boost up the tired mind... :cool:
Please attention to this and you will know what I meant...
I saw the same thing for Uber Final just now... ;)
Same goes for Male players as well...

yeah, agree with this..

this is the cool towel to refresh their face...........;)
comparing INA and Chn, INA is much much warmer than in Chn.

oh... cool towel !?
but why acting so *secretive* about it?
everytime it was used, quickly it was thrown back to this guy and he quickly *hide* it
as if they are doing something... hehehe
nvm, just my wild guess only...

hm... sour grape?

i think your are posting in a wrong forum..u shud post on the thomas/uber cup 2008 forums there...kwun, pls move this thread to here.:)

ouchs... bro kwun...
we malaysian are not players whom can not face the lost...
we are not *that* kind of person... ;)
i'm personally a big fan of China as i have learned lot of playing strategies by watching their game...
just something that I have noticed and wish to share it across... ;)

ops... i have posted in the wrong thread...
can bro kwun be kind enough to take necessary action on this?
thanks in advance... :)

Wow looks like the secret to China's success has finally been discovered!

ouchs... bro kwun...
we malaysian are not players whom can not face the lost...
we are not *that* kind of person... ;)
i'm personally a big fan of China as i have learned lot of playing strategies by watching their game...
just something that I have noticed and wish to share it across... ;)

Oh I think you are a bit wrong there.

Not completely wrong, but just a bit wrong :p:p:p. A big majority of Malaysians are not positive people. We cannot accept our losses. The amount of mail and comments I got yesterday bashing Koo/Tan and Hafiz for their losses just proves this.

We don't go: Its OK, lets move on to TC2010 or the OGs.

We go: 'KKK-TBH... haihhh... speechless' or 'i think the person who let us down the most is koo' or 'he ALWAYS screwed up at the most crucial time!' or 'balik kampung la~'

Why don't we give out players a break!

I'm suprised there isn't a 'Why Koo/Tan lost' thread , 'I blame this all on Koo/Tan' or 'Hafiz should retire' thread. Instead, all we get is a 'Choong Hann should retire' thread.:D:D:D Hafiz must be dissapointed that he didn't get discussed around and around in circles for 50 pages! :D:D:D

well, it's a free country and anyone can give their opinions...
regardless the truthfulness of it...
for me personally, try not to point fingers when we have lost but rather try to review why we have lost and take necessary action for it...
as the Olympic is around the corner and Malaysian will need to buck up their acts if they want to improve more...

It was "thousand year gingseng aroma" towel ha!

hahaaha... yen_saw...
u got me laughing there... :)

or that man cast a kind of spell through that towell.......
:D

BC = gossip forum ?? :D

i know....that thing known as aromatheraphy towel (http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=4YO&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=aromatherapy+towel&spell=1)

that fat guy is their sinseh...

if it is just aromatheraphy towel (http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=4YO&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=aromatherapy+towel&spell=1)
why do they only have one towel ?

Why don't they have one towel for each player...
it's better, more hygienic and practical......

:D :D :D gossip mode:on

BC = gossip forum ?? :D
no we're just a forum full of conspiracy theorists and sore-losers haha (that includes myself) :D

I have to say I have never known aromatherapy to smell of fish!


I think people are right saying it is a cool towel. We don't see them doing it in the winter opens in Denmark, AE or Korean. Jakarta is hot.

I have to say I have never known aromatherapy to smell of fish!


I think people are right saying it is a cool towel. We don't see them doing it in the winter opens in Denmark, AE or Korean. Jakarta is hot.
..(and humid) weather, i wonder how many (Northern Hemisphere) players actually lost a bit of weight playing in that sauna-like condition, also known as the SE Asia region??...:confused: :cool:

I first noticed this when Chinese female players play against Malaysian...
During the intervene or break, please attention to the small towels that was given/passed to the players...
Notes: it's not the normal big Yonex towel that the player was carrying with them but it's a white small towel which will be passed to them by their coaches or a fat Chinese guy whom are wearing glasses...
Once the player have used that *towel*, they will pass it back to this fat guy...
I smelt something fishy there as if the they could have put something in the towel... maybe something aromatic to boost up the tired mind... :cool:
Please attention to this and you will know what I meant...
I saw the same thing for Uber Final just now... ;)
Same goes for Male players as well...

LOL. Another bitter lost for the Malaysian and we must come up with more excuses.

Let see ... I suspect the Chinese have done something fishy to their Yonex shoes like adding spring underneath it and that's they out paced out players. Shame on China!!!! IMO :rolleyes:

..(and humid) weather, i wonder how many (Northern Hemisphere) players actually lost a bit of weight playing in that sauna-like condition, also known as the SE Asia region??...:confused: :cool:also why european players do poorly in hot cooker stadium in SE asia. :D

OMG... u guys still on the topic of Malaysians coming up with excuse after the lost ???
I'm just wondering what's the towel for as their act seems suspicious...
Since someone here have confirmed that it's Cool Towel, then my curiosity have been answered...
That's all and this topic is NOT about finding excuses... my goodness...

I first noticed this when Chinese female players play against Malaysian...
During the intervene or break, please attention to the small towels that was given/passed to the players...
Notes: it's not the normal big Yonex towel that the player was carrying with them but it's a white small towel which will be passed to them by their coaches or a fat Chinese guy whom are wearing glasses...
Once the player have used that *towel*, they will pass it back to this fat guy...
I smelt something fishy there as if the they could have put something in the towel... maybe something aromatic to boost up the tired mind... :cool:
Please attention to this and you will know what I meant...
I saw the same thing for Uber Final just now... ;)
Same goes for Male players as well...if chinese players really wanted hide any enhancing booster, they could easily spike their water bottle with any ingredient they want since bwf never test any winners urine or blood anyway. To win in the OG, all badminton players know that they can't cheat, especially chinese players winning in beijing. The embarassment would be long lasting.

hm... sour grape?

Had someone said "Well thomas cup is not THAT important anyway", then that is called "sour grapes".

lelynx was not even hammering any player. While i do agree most malaysians are very negative people (at least those in the forum) i dont think sour grapes is what one would call the thread starter.

So sorry kwun, had to disagree with you on the sour grapes part.

OMG... u guys still on the topic of Malaysians coming up with excuse after the lost ???
I'm just wondering what's the towel for as their act seems suspicious...
Since someone here have confirmed that it's Cool Towel, then my curiosity have been answered...
That's all and this topic is NOT about finding excuses... my goodness...

I am sorry for mis-understood your point. It just happen that each time when Malaysian lost we'd see few hundreds of posts blaming their players for losing. Then another few hundreds of posts blaming the opponent for too strong, their cheap tactics, bad sportsmanship for not hands shaking right away and fishy towels, and coincidently they are all from Malaysia. But thank God we have the mighty LCW thread for positive comment. :rolleyes:

lol are there actually any rule saying that no foreign objects (regardless of harmless towel) can be brought by a coach or any un/official person for the players' usage, that are not brought by the players themselves? curiosity killed the cat, and it soon will consume us if we overthink certain situations...cool towel will most likely explain it since the INA women are used to their own stadium/climate, where as (most likely) the CHN women aren't...although, since they are pros...shouldn't they have thought of a cool towel during breaks?! lol...

lol are there actually any rule saying that no foreign objects (regardless of harmless towel) can be brought by a coach or any un/official person for the players' usage, that are not brought by the players themselves? curiosity killed the cat, and it soon will consume us if we overthink certain situations...cool towel will most likely explain it since the INA women are used to their own stadium/climate, where as (most likely) the CHN women aren't...although, since they are pros...shouldn't they have thought of a cool towel during breaks?! lol...can't blame them for wanting to 'cooler':D:D:cool:

ok, okay.... ..CHN beat MAS because they are on roid... enough said.

Wow looks like the secret to China's success has finally been discovered!

Isn't the secret to Chinese's success revealed long time ago already? Strong government financial support, players training hard, discipline, good farm system.... :)

LOL. Another bitter lost for the Malaysian and we must come up with more excuses.

Let see ... I suspect the Chinese have done something fishy to their Yonex shoes like adding spring underneath it and that's they out paced out players. Shame on China!!!! IMO :rolleyes:

i think its just an observation.. not an excuse. btw, not shaking opponent's hands first thread has nothing to do with Malaysia.

Had someone said "Well thomas cup is not THAT important anyway", then that is called "sour grapes".

lelynx was not even hammering any player. While i do agree most malaysians are very negative people (at least those in the forum) i dont think sour grapes is what one would call the thread starter.

So sorry kwun, had to disagree with you on the sour grapes part.

are you representing every Malaysian members in this forum?

OMG... u guys still on the topic of Malaysians coming up with excuse after the lost ???
I'm just wondering what's the towel for as their act seems suspicious...
Since someone here have confirmed that it's Cool Towel, then my curiosity have been answered...
That's all and this topic is NOT about finding excuses... my goodness...

This is what Malaysia Boleh is all about.

I have heard crazy excuses why Malaysia lost to China i.e some claimed that the fans 'sabotaged' the team while some claimed the Malaysian shuttlers were 'jinxed'. :o:rolleyes::confused:

We lost to China simply because we were not good enough, period.

This is what Malaysia Boleh is all about.

I have heard crazy excuses why Malaysia lost to China i.e some claimed that the fans 'sabotaged' the team while some claimed the Malaysian shuttlers were 'jinxed'. :o:rolleyes::confused:

We lost to China simply because we were not good enough, period.

no... Pemuda, lelynx was just curious why China had to use those "cool" towels.

no... Pemuda, lelynx was just curious why China had to use those "cool" towels.

Dont understand the fuss over some towels. Its hot hence the cool towels. :p

The Malaysian camp should have served their shuttlers sambal tumis during the break.

Dont understand the fuss over some towels. Its hot hence the cool towels. :p

The Malaysian camp should have served their shuttlers sambal tumis during the break.

cant blame lelynx for being curious. its something out of the ordinary.

Curious is "Hey, what that?"

What do you call "Hey, somethings fishy?"

This translates to "They must be cheating or something."

Yawn.......I am tired of this BS

everything is possible

are you representing every Malaysian members in this forum?


Nope are you???

cant blame lelynx for being curious. its something out of the ordinary.

True, i guess when one put the word "fishy" after Malaysia lost, then being Malaysian one will be singled out as sore loser or sour grape. As i said before, while the issue of malaysian fans bing sore losers may or may not be true depending on ones point of view, i dont think the individual in question should be called sour grapes or what not.

i tot koo kient keat did said b4 that he smells something fishy in Jakarta:)?

i tot koo kient keat did said b4 that he smells something fishy in Jakarta:)?

KKK was refering to his socks.

It is just cool towel and it is no secret.....

Yes, CHN team has a 'pao mu' (nanny) whose job is to hand out the cold towels to help cool down and minimise the excessive heat build up in CHN players because it can get pretty hot in the stadium.This helps CHN players to maintain their physical condition especially when the matches drag on.
CHN has always been very thorough about non-badminton factors that can help give their players an edge.CHN's time-wasting delay tactics is disgusting but this 'cold towel' care is an excellent idea I absolutely support.(It's common in tennis tournaments like Australian Open)
If CHN took the trouble to help properly freshen up their players(with just a little effort) during intervals and other teams don't, then it's smart of CHN and too bad for the rest.Nowadays, big wins can be decided by attention to tiny details.

Yes, CHN team has a 'pao mu' (nanny) whose job is to hand out the cold towels to help cool down and minimise the excessive heat build up in CHN players because it can get pretty hot in the stadium.This helps CHN players to maintain their physical condition especially when the matches drag on.
CHN has always been very thorough about non-badminton factors that can help give their players an edge.CHN's time-wasting delay tactics is disgusting but this 'cold towel' care is an excellent idea I absolutely support.(It's common in tennis tournaments like Australian Open)
If CHN took the trouble to help properly freshen up their players(with just a little effort) during intervals and other teams don't, then it's smart of CHN and too bad for the rest.Nowadays, big wins can be decided by attention to tiny details.

No kidding ? I did not see that. Perhaps the Malaysian team should have a masseur to soothe aching muscles during the break.

a masseur would take too long.

CHN has always been very thorough about non-badminton factors that can help give their players an edge.CHN's time-wasting delay tactics is disgusting but this 'cold towel'

this is simply part of tactics permitted within the badminton law.
and who knows is really time-wasting? u r not the one fighting on the court.:mad:

absolute disgust is the way Korea purposely lose in earlier rounds juz to get into final. even thou they did achieve the aim, but it cost them their sportsmanship n integrity.

The towels were probably placed with ice or something to keep them cool.

This is what Malaysia Boleh is all about.

I have heard crazy excuses why Malaysia lost to China i.e some claimed that the fans 'sabotaged' the team while some claimed the Malaysian shuttlers were 'jinxed'. :o:rolleyes::confused:

We lost to China simply because we were not good enough, period.

Thats ridiculous.

Accept the lost and learn to be better.

Why everytimes like that. So many excuses...:(

The towels were probably placed with ice or something to keep them cool.

those towels were from "bomoh" :eek::p dun play play hor... :D

those towels were from "bomoh" :eek::p dun play play hor... :D
or its from their china temple?:p:p:D
their master or sifu had already pray sumthing on the towel??:)
hahahaha

Doesn't work. There was this dude actually praying during the Uber Cup matching between IND and CHN, on the sidelines. Publicly.

-dave

Doesn't work. There was this dude actually praying during the Uber Cup matching between IND and CHN, on the sidelines. Publicly.

-dave

I asked, apparently that's Indonesia Minister of Youth & Sports, he was saying a Muslim prayer. Look in UBer FInals thread. The Indonesia BCer said (jokingly) cos he prayed, Indonesia lost faster, apparently cos this Sports Minister doesnt support badminton much.

some claimed the Malaysian shuttlers were 'jinxed'. :o:rolleyes::confused:

can i ask something???i heard that,before i was born...at 80's or 90's...there are one malaysia open final between sidek(forget which one) against lim swee kin(spell right???...not too familiar to him because i young)both win 1 set...in the final set...sidek lost from 14-0 to 14-17...is that happened???...hmm...some said we been 'bomoh'ed...haha...

can i ask something???i heard that,before i was born...at 80's or 90's...there are one malaysia open final between sidek(forget which one) against lim swee kin(spell right???...not too familiar to him because i young)both win 1 set...in the final set...sidek lost from 14-0 to 14-17...is that happened???...hmm...some said we been 'bomoh'ed...haha...

Let me put it this way ... if all these bomoh or witchcraft business is for real, then Malaysia just need to maybe sacrifice a goat or something before each tournament and the Olympic gold, TC, WC and all will be in the trophy cabinet in no time.

i tot koo kient keat did said b4 that he smells something fishy in Jakarta:)?

Well, a poster here said the gold rings, bracelets, blonde hairdo, chains and jade pendants were some sort of 'Fung Shui'. ;)

or its from their china temple?:p:p:D
their master or sifu had already pray sumthing on the towel??:)
hahahaha
he-he funny opinion..well everyone the tournament already ending.we already watch very good competition , even LD could Lost but we seen that CHN win cause their mental more strong than others competiting on Team they are very hard to defeat...:D for malaysian,INA players that's the point why they can't win on team competition...

Let me put it this way ... if all these bomoh or witchcraft business is for real, then Malaysia just need to maybe sacrifice a goat or something before each tournament and the Olympic gold, TC, WC and all will be in the trophy cabinet in no time.

first time i feel u were so funny,pemuda...^^...will u go for sukma in terengganu???...^^...

being 0-14 down in the 3rd set and winning it 17-14 in the end sure is unusual.

being 0-14 down in the 3rd set and winning it 17-14 in the end sure is unusual.

but i still dont know wether it is true or not...hmm...anyone can help???

being 0-14 down in the 3rd set and winning it 17-14 in the end sure is unusual.
are u talking about a badminton match?

are u talking about a badminton match?

yes, as limsy said

Yes, CHN team has a 'pao mu' (nanny) whose job is to hand out the cold towels to help cool down and minimise the excessive heat build up in CHN players because it can get pretty hot in the stadium.This helps CHN players to maintain their physical condition especially when the matches drag on.
CHN has always been very thorough about non-badminton factors that can help give their players an edge.CHN's time-wasting delay tactics is disgusting but this 'cold towel' care is an excellent idea I absolutely support.(It's common in tennis tournaments like Australian Open)
If CHN took the trouble to help properly freshen up their players(with just a little effort) during intervals and other teams don't, then it's smart of CHN and too bad for the rest.Nowadays, big wins can be decided by attention to tiny details.

I agree.. the little details does matter.

yes, as limsy said
do u have the video of that match?

do u have the video of that match?

hmm...so sorry that until now i cant proof that this final did occur...but as i read in an article when lcw won MO...and that reporter said this is the final in many badminton fan heart and memory...i think it was in 80s...i am not even in this world yet...so...anyone can help me to proof this final was exist???...maybe uncle loh or abedeng will know...

sidek was holding the serve in the 3rd set at game point in MO final...because sidek was no more energy left...lim swee king won back the serve and taking 17 straight point...is this true???

but i still dont know wether it is true or not...hmm...anyone can help???
If it is true....trust me..then INA will keep winning all titles ( in cluding TC/UC)with all those voodoos...:D:D

If it is true....trust me..then INA will keep winning all titles ( in cluding TC/UC)with all those voodoos...:D:D
Not only INA, JAMAICAN team as well with the black voodoo magic:D;)

If it is true....trust me..then INA will keep winning all titles ( in cluding TC/UC)with all those voodoos...:D:D

no no no...i mean...i dont know if this final has exist...not the black magic...just some of the people say sidek was been bomohed...

but thailand black magic was better right??