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champion8
05-21-2008, 05:58 AM
I believe the women standard in our country have risen and there is a possibility that the women may perform better than the men from 2010 in team event. The Junior standard and the national standard are pretty close and the interest in the junior girls standard are high compare to a few years ago.

What do u think? Do u think we be able to match country like China, Korea and Indonesia ?

For the mens, there seem to be gap between the national back up and the national and unless something fast is done to push and identify young talent, we Malaysian may not have any hero to worship especially in the men single

Who do u think will be able to climb the rank and break thru the international arena in two years time. Men and Women.

Bear in mind, in two year time we have a few major tournament like Commonwealth Game, Asian Game and Thomas Uber Cup. For the U19 there is a first Olympic Youth Game in Singapore 2010.

champion8
05-21-2008, 08:52 PM
from what i understand from the players in BAm there is only 3 mens left in the backup in Rashid group. Wei Fong, Chun Seang,Arif and Darren. Those who are with Misbun are 4 boys who are 20 years old which incl: Chan Kwong Beng. Coming of age will be 3 to 4 of them in the BJSS.

They are the one to fill the gap in the singles and seriously i agree with YKH something drastic have to be done or we can forget about Thomas Cup.We could actually rope in WCH to help out in the mens department or we could seek foreign help.

A revamp on the training programme is important. There should not be too much propriety claim. The coaches could work as a team to develop players for the nation. Sometime i wonder how come the men single are split into 2 coaches or 3 coaches for the matter. (Misbun,Tat Meng and Rashid).

As for the ladies, it is important to identify a chief coach to take charge of the women single and double. To progress further, the ladies must have a chief coach who will oversee their development in sports, mental training and endurance. I can see that the ladies have improved but to be in par more have to be done.If Uber 2010 to be successful changes have to be made immediately and an identity programme have to be set up.

ants
05-21-2008, 08:59 PM
Don't forget as there are also other talents that is not in the BAM programme.

champion8
05-21-2008, 09:10 PM
Don't forget as there are also other talents that is not in the BAM programme.


u r right. KLRC 2 have a development programme. The question is will they be able to compete with BAM in terms of funding and opportunity. From what i understand KLRC have been under expense account for quite sometime even though Dato Kam is rich and have a passion for badminton and he has been kind to all the ex BAM player but will his club be able to run successfully in the long run.

gemini12
05-23-2008, 03:43 AM
BAM have said they will do a revamp after Olympics. Just wait.

How about Zulfaldi? do u think he is good?

ericTDX
06-10-2008, 04:06 AM
zulfadli is already beating players more senior than him now, i think he`ll definitely continue to improve and be a world beater one day..
but i don`t think 2010 will be his year, probably 2015 when he`s more matured?

SibugiChai
06-10-2008, 04:58 AM
zulfadli is already beating players more senior than him now, i think he`ll definitely continue to improve and be a world beater one day..
but i don`t think 2010 will be his year, probably 2015 when he`s more matured?

How about NG LAY PENG?

gemini12
06-10-2008, 05:14 AM
How about NG LAY PENG?

who is Ng Lay Peng

Dato A
06-20-2008, 02:38 AM
who is Ng Lay Peng

Ang Lay Peng i guess...

Dato A
06-20-2008, 02:39 AM
Dont forget to include Hafiz Hashim in the plan oso..

gemini12
06-20-2008, 04:45 AM
woh... why. we r talking about 2010 players.

Dato A
06-20-2008, 04:47 AM
woh... why. we r talking about 2010 players.

He always get the place in the squad. No matter how bad is his performance.

george@chongwei
06-20-2008, 11:02 PM
He always get the place in the squad. No matter how bad is his performance.
agree with this.

limsy
12-25-2009, 12:05 PM
I believe the women standard in our country have risen and there is a possibility that the women may perform better than the men from 2010 in team event. The Junior standard and the national standard are pretty close and the interest in the junior girls standard are high compare to a few years ago.

yes,champion8
u get it correct
the trend start from 2009 sea games
women team won 1 team gold and one wd gold +2 bronze in ws
men team only get 2 silver from md and team event

What do u think? Do u think we be able to match country like China, Korea and Indonesia ?

For the mens, there seem to be gap between the national back up and the national and unless something fast is done to push and identify young talent, we Malaysian may not have any hero to worship especially in the men single

Who do u think will be able to climb the rank and break thru the international arena in two years time. Men and Women.

Bear in mind, in two year time we have a few major tournament like Commonwealth Game, Asian Game and Thomas Uber Cup. For the U19 there is a first Olympic Youth Game in Singapore 2010.

we will know the asnwer soon
start from mas open 2010:)

eaglehelang
12-27-2009, 05:58 AM
Might as well post the whole list here :

2009 18 yr old Juniors who will be in back-up in 2010 :

MS
1) Iskandar Zulkarnain
2) Syawal Muhammad
Non BAM= Misbun Ramdan

MD/XD
1) Chooi Kah Meng
2) Pang Zeng Lin
3) Goh Jian Hao
4) Lau Win Hwi
Not confirmed : Yeoh Chong Yee who's recovering from knee injury. Not sure if he will continue playing or go further studies

WS
1) Tee Jing Yi
2) Florah Ng

WD/XD
1) Ng Hui Ern

As usual, there's a lack of women players who decide to pursue baddy as career.

eaglehelang
12-27-2009, 06:02 AM
Back players who left BAM :
MD - Khoo Chung Chiat(23 or 24 y.o). Was from Rashid Sidek's Project 2010 batch. He did not participate in 2009 Msia IC. Now his name is listed partnering Ng Kean Kok in MO 2010. If I not mistaken Ng is independent player, partner Hong CH before.

Not confirmed if still in BAM : WD & XD player Amelia Anselley. She is not listed in any events in MO 2010, where all the rest are, even BJSS juniors.

Pemuda
12-27-2009, 09:45 AM
I believe the women standard in our country have risen and there is a possibility that the women may perform better than the men from 2010 in team event. The Junior standard and the national standard are pretty close and the interest in the junior girls standard are high compare to a few years ago.

What do u think? Do u think we be able to match country like China, Korea and Indonesia ?

For the mens, there seem to be gap between the national back up and the national and unless something fast is done to push and identify young talent, we Malaysian may not have any hero to worship especially in the men single

Who do u think will be able to climb the rank and break thru the international arena in two years time. Men and Women.

Bear in mind, in two year time we have a few major tournament like Commonwealth Game, Asian Game and Thomas Uber Cup. For the U19 there is a first Olympic Youth Game in Singapore 2010.

Ahhh ... optimism ... never leave home without it. :)

I agree with you to some extend that our women shuttlers have improved compared to say 5 years ago. But if we compare with others, we are still in the stone age as far as women badminton is concerned.

Can we match the women of China, Korea & co, my answer is no. We are still way behind. Yes, we had some success in Laos BUT I would like to think that we beat Indonesia in a one off game. Winning the SEA games team gold is no indication as we were quickly brought down to earth in the individual events, except for WPT/CEH the rest were bundled out. The Uber Cup will be the best gauge, and I doubt we can make even the semis despite the home advantage.

WMC, I think her best is behind her. And after her, we have a big gap. Lydia Cheah is average. In the doubles dept, I dont see any quality pairs in the horizon.

As for the men, I think we are in serious trouble. In the MS, other than LCW we have no one near his potential while in the MD, we have the inconsistent KKK/TBH and unreliable Fuzzy pair.

I predict a depressing badminton future for Malaysia in the coming years.

gemini12
12-27-2009, 09:46 PM
Ahhh ... optimism ... never leave home without it. :)

I agree with you to some extend that our women shuttlers have improved compared to say 5 years ago. But if we compare with others, we are still in the stone age as far as women badminton is concerned.

Can we match the women of China, Korea & co, my answer is no. We are still way behind. Yes, we had some success in Laos BUT I would like to think that we beat Indonesia in a one off game. Winning the SEA games team gold is no indication as we were quickly brought down to earth in the individual events, except for WPT/CEH the rest were bundled out. The Uber Cup will be the best gauge, and I doubt we can make even the semis despite the home advantage.

WMC, I think her best is behind her. And after her, we have a big gap. Lydia Cheah is average. In the doubles dept, I dont see any quality pairs in the horizon.

As for the men, I think we are in serious trouble. In the MS, other than LCW we have no one near his potential while in the MD, we have the inconsistent KKK/TBH and unreliable Fuzzy pair.

I predict a depressing badminton future for Malaysia in the coming years.


u forgot we still have Julia Wong?

limsy
12-30-2009, 08:25 PM
Not confirmed if still in BAM : WD & XD player Amelia Anselley. She is not listed in any events in MO 2010, where all the rest are, even BJSS juniors.

she had back to sabah
continue her study i think:(

eaglehelang
12-30-2009, 09:16 PM
she had back to sabah
continue her study i think:(

Yup, it's confirmed that Amelia Anselley has quit BAM. Wish her all the best in her studies.

george@chongwei
12-30-2009, 09:44 PM
Yup, it's confirmed that Amelia Anselley has quit BAM. Wish her all the best in her studies.
is that the girl who always love to snap photos??:p

eaglehelang
12-31-2009, 01:34 AM
is that the girl who always love to snap photos??:p
Hiyaa this George, people quit already then only you ask. :p
She's Nairul Suhada's(Zakry/Razif/Arif sis) WD partner. This is what AAA look like :

pajrul
12-31-2009, 02:07 AM
i think we have improved against ourselves, for what its worth.. which is still an improvement like it or not.. .against other countries, not sure... probably not.

abedeng
12-31-2009, 06:13 AM
u forgot we still have Julia Wong?

Julia Wong had to undergo a lengthy rehabilitation. Her injury in Guangzhou was quite bad, worse than any that had afflicted Wong Mew Choo. And even WMC took quite a bit of time to recover from her injuries.

Even after recovery, it would take Julia a lot of time to recover physical and match fitness. I personally do not think that she will be at her best (if she plays) during the 2010 Uber Cup.

robin7
12-31-2009, 07:13 AM
Non BAM= Misbun Ramdan
I haven't watched him playing. 18 (http://nusa-mahsuri.com/b_ramdan.htm) years old, 184 (http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/2/7/sports/3213019&sec=sports)cm and Misbun's son...

chris-ccc
12-31-2009, 08:01 AM
Yup, it's confirmed that Amelia Anselley has quit BAM. Wish her all the best in her studies.



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Sabah is now having only left with 3 women representatives in BAM.

To understand and to know more about Amelia Alicia Anscelly, perhaps the Daily Express explains it well: http://www.dailyexpress.com.my/news.cfm?NewsID=69659

Published on: Wednesday, December 23, 2009
Kota Kinabalu: Top women shuttler Amelia Alicia Anscelly has decided to quit the Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) after three years in the national squad.

Rumours of her departure has been going on for sometime and Express Sports learned that she had tendered her resignation letter to the management and she will no longer be with the national body effective Dec 31.

The exact reason for her abrupt departure is not clear but it is understood that she intends to pursue her studies in a local university.

When contacted, she only said she wanted to take a break from badminton after years of non stop training and competitions and will only decide on her future later.

The 21-year-old first caught the attention of the national body and was recruited into the national back up squad after her SPM at the Bukit Jalil Sports School where she had spent the previous five years since 2001.

She was one of the brightest young doubles specialist in the national team.

During her time in BAM, she had partnered a number of players both in the doubles as well as in the mixed doubles event.

She was never given a permanent partner but she still managed to produce some good results with different partners.

At the Chinese Taipei Open this year she and her mixed doubles partner Hoon Thien How stunned the badminton world with a straight sets 21-16, 23-21 win over Olympic champion Lee Yong Dae and Lee Hyo Jung of Korea in the first round.

She also reached the quarter final stage of three international doubles events with two different partners.

She and her earlier partner Lim Yin Loo managed to reach the quarter final in the Vietnam Open in April and the pair also won the Pahang Open titles this year.

She was later paired up with Nairul Suhada Latif and reached the same stage in the Malaysia Open GP Gold in June and the Thailand Open GP Gold in July.

Her last appearance for the country was at the Proton Malaysia International Challenge in November where she and Nairul were beaten in the first round.

She recently returned to the State and helped Sabah win two gold medals in the team and individual doubles event at the Borneo Games held in Brunei.

With her withdrawal, Sabah are now only left with three women representatives in the national team, The recent SEA Games team gold medallist and single player Sannatasah Saniru and sisters Marylen Ng Paou Leng and Flora Ng Siew Fong.
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