According to M/Q Report (May 29, 2008) through BWF website, there're some players withdrawal from forthcoming INA Super Series 2008 :

MS -- Stanislav Pukhov (RUS), Nyl Yakura (CAN), John Moody (NZL), Hsieh Yu Hsin (TPE), Shon Seung Mo and Shon Wan Ho (KOR)

WS -- Kamila Augustyn (POL), Michelle Li (CAN), Michelle Chan KY (NZL), Tracey Hallam (ENG), Bae Youn Joo (KOR)

MD -- Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo (CHN), Chung Eui Seok/Shin Baek Cheol (KOR)

WD -- Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen (CHN), Kamila Augustyn/Nadiezda Kostiuczyk (POL), Sun In Jang/Choi Ha Na (KOR)

XD -- He Hanbin/Yu Yang (CHN), Craig Cooper/Renee Flavell (NZL), Nyl Yakura/Michelle Li (CAN), Shin Baek Cheol/Sun In Jang (KOR)

hope Indonesia will win this....:D

hope Indonesia will win this....:D

welcome to bc and posted the 1st post...^^...

welcome to bc and posted the 1st post...^^...

thanx.. yup.. i'm a newbie...:)

thanx.. yup.. i'm a newbie...:)

please introduce yourself in the introduce section...^^..

Aww, I would've thought He Hanbin/Yu Yang would've had a good chance. Good to know that none of the Chinese MS players are withdrawing.

I cant meet YAng/Zhang,Xie/Guo N He/Yu :crying::crying:
Hope there's no withdrawals anymore

Nyl Yakura is like 15 :eek:

Nyl Yakura is like 15 :eek:
I hope he and Michele Li are still coming for training at Djarum Kudus...;)

According to M/Q Report (May 29, 2008) through BWF website, there're some players withdrawal from forthcoming INA Super Series 2008 :

MS -- Stanislav Pukhov (RUS), Nyl Yakura (CAN), John Moody (NZL), Hsieh Yu Hsin (TPE), Shon Seung Mo and Shon Wan Ho (KOR)

WS -- Kamila Augustyn (POL), Michelle Li (CAN), Michelle Chan KY (NZL), Tracey Hallam (ENG), Bae Youn Joo (KOR)

MD -- Guo Zhendong/Xie Zhongbo (CHN), Chung Eui Seok/Shin Baek Cheol (KOR)

WD -- Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen (CHN), Kamila Augustyn/Nadiezda Kostiuczyk (POL), Sun In Jang/Choi Ha Na (KOR)

XD -- He Hanbin/Yu Yang (CHN), Craig Cooper/Renee Flavell (NZL), Nyl Yakura/Michelle Li (CAN), Shin Baek Cheol/Sun In Jang (KOR)

Wow, then we shall probably see a lot of INA players in the Quarter and Semifinals... ;) as for the finals... maybe we can probably see Lily-Nova & Kido-Hendra, the rest are not so reliable... :p

Wow, then we shall probably see a lot of INA players in the Quarter and Semifinals... ;) as for the finals... maybe we can probably see Lily-Nova & Kido-Hendra, the rest are not so reliable... :p

That is if Hendra can recover fast from his typhoid.

That is if Hendra can recover fast from his typhoid.

OMG.... get well soon, hendra

That is if Hendra can recover fast from his typhoid.
I recovered from typhus in 2 weeks.
I hope he gets better soon faster than I did.:o

Wow, then we shall probably see a lot of INA players in the Quarter and Semifinals... ;) as for the finals... maybe we can probably see Lily-Nova & Kido-Hendra, the rest are not so reliable... :p

simon good also lar...^^...

Wow, then we shall probably see a lot of INA players in the Quarter and Semifinals... ;) as for the finals... maybe we can probably see Lily-Nova & Kido-Hendra, the rest are not so reliable... :p

Don't forget Vita/Lilyana, as 4th seed seems this pair have bright chance to produce good outcome here. The hardest opponents for them are Zhang/Wei and two Japanese pairs.

simon good also lar...^^...

He has to prove that he's better than Taufik.
Taufik has passed his expiration date, like Mr. Jimbo said.
Simon is our MS 3, if he's no better than Taufik, then our MS is entering dark age.

He has to prove that he's better than Taufik.
Taufik has passed his expiration date, like Mr. Jimbo said.
Simon is our MS 3, if he's no better than Taufik, then our MS is entering dark age.

hehe...he did beat taufik right???...no need worry lar...he still young...

hope Indonesia will win this....:D

really hope so...;)

looks like zhou mi also pulled out!In the M/Q report,zhou mi is 8th seed.But in the seeding list,the 8th seed is malaysian wong mew choo.

looks like zhou mi also pulled out!In the M/Q report,zhou mi is 8th seed.But in the seeding list,the 8th seed is malaysian wong mew choo.

Based on the drawing that released by BWF, there's still Zhou Mi name as 7th seed. Another withdrawals from China camp are Lin Dan, Xie Xingfang and Lu Lan.

kkk/tbh withdrew..

lin dan and XXF also withdrew..

uncles from malaysia and denmark also will not participate in this tournament..

2 koreans pair also will not participate..
jung/lee, and lee/hwang

kkk/tbh withdrew..

uncles from malaysia and denmark also will not participate in this tournament..

KKK/TBH & uncles didnt withdraw, they werent registered to participate in the 1st place.

no lin dan?no fun...

no lin dan?no fun...
no lin dan-no fun...:(
got lee chong wei, peter gade, bao chun lai..- got fun:p:p

no lin dan-no fun...:(
got lee chong wei, peter gade, bao chun lai..- got fun:p:p

yap,, didnt lee chong wei kick lin dan's ass??:p

yap,, didnt lee chong wei kick lin dan's ass??:p
yeah, during the tc semi final 1st singles..
but too bad ..MAS team lost:(

yeah, during the tc semi final 1st singles..
but too bad ..MAS team lost:(

yap.. chongwei is great player.. i'm one of his fan too...


but i like hendrawan very much...:p:p

no full team for malaysia then?

no lin dan-no fun...:(
got lee chong wei, peter gade, bao chun lai..- got fun:p:p

yaya..LCW is good,BCL is ok..but gade?i dont know what happened to him lately..he was a great player!nowadays???blah...:eek: hehehehea

can't wait to see tony/chandra though..

yaya..LCW is good,BCL is ok..but gade?i dont know what happened to him lately..he was a great player!nowadays???blah...:eek: hehehehea

Gade had pneumonia or asthma or something around February-March this year... He couldn't play at the All England because of it...

He is still an awesome player. He defeated Park Sung Hwan in a very close match last month during DEN vs. KOR. Still awesome, I tell you... Better than Sony. Closer to Lin Dan level... :)

hehehe yess i realise that..is just that when he played against PSH, he took a v loooong time to beat him.while im expecting he would played it smoothly, and won it with no doubt.too bad,such a great player gade was. ;)
well..let's hope that he already recovered by 17th of june, and play magnificently!!!:D:D:D:D:D

hehehe yess i realise that..is just that when he played against PSH, he took a v loooong time to beat him.while im expecting he would played it smoothly, and won it with no doubt.too bad,such a great player gade was. ;)
well..let's hope that he already recovered by 17th of june, and play magnificently!!!:D:D:D:D:D

in TC, i hope Sony will beat PSH too, but he lost... i think Gade is better than sony...:o

Gade needs a loooooong time, because the match is very tight...

Gade had pneumonia or asthma or something around February-March this year... He couldn't play at the All England because of it...

He is still an awesome player. He defeated Park Sung Hwan in a very close match last month during DEN vs. KOR. Still awesome, I tell you... Better than Sony. Closer to Lin Dan level... :)

yap agree... Sony is lacking in spirit... :(

Gade had pneumonia or asthma or something around February-March this year... He couldn't play at the All England because of it...

He is still an awesome player. He defeated Park Sung Hwan in a very close match last month during DEN vs. KOR. Still awesome, I tell you... Better than Sony. Closer to Lin Dan level... :)

Yes.....agreed,....PG normal level of play....always at the top 5 in the world...

yap agree... Sony is lacking in spirit... :(
i must disagree with this...imho, sony has a very strong fighting spirit although he is down during his game...

i must disagree with this...imho, sony has a very strong fighting spirit although he is down during his game...

I concur.

Nothing wrong with Sony's spirit, but I feel his body mass, strength and stamina need further work. In between matches, his body is taking too much time to recover fully. Take for example his Asian Championship semifinal match vs Park. Park had the harder quarterfinal battle a day earlier, yet recovered much faster. Sony was limping slightly, two hours after the match against Park ended. And Park, he was relaxed and fit as a fiddle.

hello all, i'm new comer here...
looks the player that come to INA open (esp China with its full team)..
it will be like a warming up party before olympic... guessing the winner of this tournament will be the winner for d olympic... isn't it??? :D

hello all, i'm new comer here...
looks the player that come to INA open (esp China with its full team)..
it will be like a warming up party before olympic... guessing the winner of this tournament will be the winner for d olympic... isn't it??? :D

welcome my friend...please intro urself at the intro section...^^...and please promote this forum to ur friend that love badminton...and please contribute post...we are expecting a million post reached in this olmpic...^^...:D

... guessing the winner of this tournament will be the winner for d olympic... isn't it??? :D

In the past, oftentimes it is not so... ;) This time too... the KOR top MD are in training and decided not to join the INA SS... Even Lin Dan won't play in Jakarta in 2 weeks... These players and pairs can very well win the Olympics in August...

In the past, oftentimes it is not so... ;) This time too... the KOR top MD are in training and decided not to join the INA SS... Even Lin Dan won't play in Jakarta in 2 weeks... These players and pairs can very well win the Olympics in August...

he..9x surely you're right.. Is lin dan would not come to ina ss? Hmm.. Guessing my previous prediction just prevail for the XD.. Live NOVA/LILYANA.. Ho..9x

he..9x surely you're right.. Is lin dan would not come to ina ss? Hmm.. Guessing my previous prediction just prevail for the XD.. Live NOVA/LILYANA.. Ho..9x
LD is not coming....only BCL and Chen Jin...

Lee Chong Wei participation in INA Open depends on his Singapore Open outcome. Here's the info taken from Malaysia The Star Online :

Monday, 9 June 2008

Badminton : Chong Wei under the microscope
By S.RAMAGURU

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Misbun added that they had yet to confirm Chong Wei’s participation in the Indonesian Open scheduled for June 17-22.

“It will depend on his form in Singapore. If he does well and go all the way to the final, I will withdraw him from the Indonesian Open. But if it is an early exit, then we need to go to Indonesia because he needs the matches to fine tune his game,” he said.
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Hopefully Taufik will win this tournament... hehehehehe

so many INA vs INA.........

Hehe. . On IO press conference Sutiyoso commented about the decrease performance of taufik's / INA Thomas team. He said, "its time to fulfil the sins". Ah, Hopefully when the guys know bout this, their minds are gonna say SURE WE DO!! Hohohoho. . lol

Hehe. . On IO press conference Sutiyoso commented about the decrease performance of taufik's / INA Thomas team. He said, "its time to fulfil the sins". Ah, Hopefully when the guys know bout this, their minds are gonna say SURE WE DO!! Hohohoho. . lol

The upcoming INA SS should be good opportunity to redeem sin as compensation due to INA Thomas team disappointment to reach champion target. Last year at same venue, host INA didn't bag any title when PBSI Chairman Sutiyoso got angry and embarrased by that failure.

Lee Chong Wei participation in INA Open depends on his Singapore Open outcome. Here's the info taken from Malaysia The Star Online :

Monday, 9 June 2008

Badminton : Chong Wei under the microscope
By S.RAMAGURU

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Misbun added that they had yet to confirm Chong Wei’s participation in the Indonesian Open scheduled for June 17-22.

“It will depend on his form in Singapore. If he does well and go all the way to the final, I will withdraw him from the Indonesian Open. But if it is an early exit, then we need to go to Indonesia because he needs the matches to fine tune his game,” he said.
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If LCW withdraws, then Andre Kurniawan's path to the quarterfinals looks much much better.... :p A quarterfinal matchup against Peter Gade, I hope... ;)

The upcoming INA SS should be good opportunity to redeem sin as compensation due to INA Thomas team disappointment to reach champion target. Last year at same venue, host INA didn't bag any title when PBSI Chairman Sutiyoso got angry and embarrased by that failure.

Yeah, INA Open 2007 was the 1st time in our 20+ INA Open history where INA failed to win any title... :crying:

Is it true that Cai-Fu will not join this competition?

:D:Dahahahahaa FuWang!!!you're everywhere:p!!!but i need the confirmation too!how did you get the news anyway?where did you heard it first?

uh-oh..INA SS becoming less and less interesting..:(

Because I'm so curious of Their coming......... Why They withdraw in the last minute like this........

Woah, Michelle Li and Nyl Yakura are young :O

LCW is not going to IO... He will go back to KL on Sun or Mon from SG :)

LCW is not going to IO... He will go back to KL on Sun or Mon from SG :)

:eek:...are u sure???...:eek:...where did u get the infomation???:crying:

yes, LCW will not be going to IO. He told me the day before i left to Msia.

yes, LCW will not be going to IO. He told me the day before i left to Msia.

That means, the road to the quarterfinals for Andre just got a lot smoother... :p

LCW deserved a rest after participated in so many tournaments.Plus,he already through to the Final of SO'08.

:eek:...are u sure???...:eek:...where did u get the infomation???:crying:
Thats correct as LCW has reached Final..wong Mei Choo is not going also.

Taufik may pull out....

but according to sina sports,wong mew choo say she maybe will participate in the IO!

but according to sina sports,wong mew choo say she maybe will participate in the IO!

She told me this afternoon that she is not going......;)

:eek:...are u sure???...:eek:...where did u get the infomation???:crying:

His "big boss" told me so... :rolleyes:

She told me this afternoon that she is not going......;)

Ok, then the road for Maria Elfira also got sort of easier... :p

Andrew Smith is not going to Jakarta this time

With at least LCW and Andrew Smith gone, then we shall see Scott Evans and Arvind Bhat being promoted to the main draw... Hmm... easier for Hayom then... maybe he has to defeat Hong Ji Hoon to win MS-Q4 to the main round... One more withdrawal [maybe Taufik?], then Kenichi Tago is going straight to the main draw. Thus, making it easier for Wahyu to win MS-Q3.

As for MS-Q1, I think either Alamsyah or Wisnu should win it...

lee chong wei and wong mew choo had confirmed not participating in this tournament...FYI

That means, the road to the quarterfinals for Andre just got a lot smoother... :p
will there be any redraw??

What's up with Taufik....withdrawing even for the home event :eek::o
I would say forget about getting a Gold in Men's Singles in the Beijing Olympics, which could well see Taufik getting bundled out pretty early.

What's up with Taufik....withdrawing even for the home event :eek::o
I would say forget about getting a Gold in Men's Singles in the Beijing Olympics, which could well see Taufik getting bundled out pretty early.

Yeah, forget about TH chance. INA best hope to grab Beijing Gold is clearly through XD and MD.

whats hendra setiawan latest condition?
will he compete in this INA SS???

Tine may skip INA Open now..she told me and had promised to show up at INA..now it had changed..

whats hendra setiawan latest condition?
will he compete in this INA SS???

Yes he will. He had symptoms of Typhoid, but now it is gone! ;)

What's up with Taufik....withdrawing even for the home event :eek::o
I would say forget about getting a Gold in Men's Singles in the Beijing Olympics, which could well see Taufik getting bundled out pretty early.

He has promoted to be a "celeberity" instead of player when he arrived in SG Open :rolleyes: Instead of jumping n diving for birdies, he exchanged his rackets with Mont-Blont pen during the signing authographs session ;)

I hope he will not follow Susilo's footpath... if u know what i meant (for the locals) :cool:

With all these withdrawals, should be a straight fight between CHN and INA for MS title.

INA WS girls should shine also, show 'em the Uber Cup performance was no fluke.

Taufik should just retire and give his OG spot to Simon, who deserves it more than he does...

I hope he and Michele Li are still coming for training at Djarum Kudus...;)


Yup They are still coming.
Yakura is very very strong for a 15yr old kid.

lee chong wei, wong choong hann and even wong mew choo will skip this tournament.

lee chong wei, wong choong hann and even wong mew choo will skip this tournament.

Need to go back home to sharpen the swords! Just like China & korea are doing now. No point exposing too much to opponent before battle :)

Tine may skip INA Open now..she told me and had promised to show up at INA..now it had changed..

Hmmm, no need for Tine to push extra energy to participate INA SS as she gained success in Singapore yesterday. Similar with SIN SS, many top names also miss this tournament...

I agree...:cool: Simon may get medal if he is a little bit lucky.

Taufik should just retire and give his OG spot to Simon, who deserves it more than he does...

Hmmm, no need for Tine to push extra energy to participate INA SS as she gained success in Singapore yesterday. Similar with SIN SS, many top names also miss this tournament...

Tine has arrived in Jakarta a few hours ago. She will be playing! ;) I'm looking forward to her encounter with Maria Kristin in the Round of 16. :)

Good to know that she decided to play in IO. And i hope she will not lose in the 1st few rounds.

Tine has arrived in Jakarta a few hours ago. She will be playing! ;) I'm looking forward to her encounter with Maria Kristin in the Round of 16. :)

Yeah, it'll be one interesting match between Maria Kristin and the well-improved Tine. Thx Krisna for the updating info!

wong chong hann, lee chong wei, taufik hidayat, andrew smith and chen jin pulled out of MS main draw. all of them confirmed.

evans, jørgensen, tago, bhat and sugiarto to replace them.

wong chong hann, lee chong wei, taufik hidayat, andrew smith and chen jin pulled out of MS main draw. all of them confirmed.

evans, jørgensen, tago, bhat and sugiarto to replace them.

You are correct, badders7... ;) Thus there shall be a MS-qualification redraw tonight. The results will be available 9pm Jakarta-time at Hotel Sultan... :)

WD will also be re-drawn... due to the 8-seeds-requirement-in-a-Super-Series that they did not fulfill... :o MD-Qualification will also be redrawn due to the promotion of the seeds [in MD-Q]... who got promoted because Cai-Fu and Mateusiak-Logosz withdrew... :D

once again. :eek:oh my god.............this year IO becoming less and less atractive

if u look at the tournamentsoftware website, the order of play for 2moro`s qualifying match had not yet update!!!
maybe the skinny guy not yet update, huh?:)

so, will TH play in this tournament??

if u look at the tournamentsoftware website, the order of play for 2moro`s qualifying match had not yet update!!!
maybe the skinny guy not yet update, huh?:)

Update of the redraw and playing-time schedule by 9pm Jakarta time...

so, will TH play in this tournament??

No, he won't. According to the latest news, still no... :(

how about tine rasmussen?

how about tine rasmussen?

Tine is in Jakarta... She will play! ;)

No, he won't. According to the latest news, still no... :(

What's the reason behind his withdrawal (considering this is a home event)??? If I were PBSI, I would drop his name from the Olympics list immediately and replace him with Simon Santoso :cool:

What's the reason behind his withdrawal (considering this is a home event)??? If I were PBSI, I would drop his name from the Olympics list immediately and replace him with Simon Santoso :cool:

Truthfully? :o :o :o

Taufik asked to be sent to SGPR SS, but PBSI said no, because even Coach Mulyo said Taufik is actually not fit and will probably loose in the early rounds. Taufik didn't like PBSI's decision and wrote a letter to the PBSI management that he will not play in this year's INA SS and the Olympics! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Actually, I agree with you badMania... if this is Taufik's attitude, it is better that he retires now. Otherwise PBSI will fire him in disgraceful circumstances... :o

To me it shows that TH doesn't have the confidence anymore.

As a result of the WD redraw, among others we shall see on Wednesday:
Mel-Shendy vs. Fong-Mooi, #42 ranked pair from MAS
Nathalia-Yulianti vs. Kamilla-Lena [6]
Previously, Mel-Shendy should play Nathalia-Yulianti

As a result of the depleting MD participants, these pairs have entered the main draw:
Rizky-Albert
Dharma-Peter
Aji-Suprobo
Edo-Lingga
Lu-Chen

Truthfully? :o :o :o

Taufik asked to be sent to SGPR SS, but PBSI said no, because even Coach Mulyo said Taufik is actually not fit and will probably loose in the early rounds. Taufik didn't like PBSI's decision and wrote a letter to the PBSI management that he will not play in this year's INA SS and the Olympics! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Actually, I agree with you badMania... if this is Taufik's attitude, it is better that he retires now. Otherwise PBSI will fire him in disgraceful circumstances... :o

So be it. Let PBSI take his bluff and don't send him to Olympic. With current condition, his chances are pretty low anyway. Also, expose all of these "demand" to the public so PBSI isn't the only one getting blamed.
Lets see how far his "celebrity" status will take him once the public see his selfish attitude. :rolleyes:

Taufik asked to be sent to SGPR SS, but PBSI said no, because even Coach Mulyo said Taufik is actually not fit and will probably loose in the early rounds. Taufik didn't like PBSI's decision and wrote a letter to the PBSI management that he will not play in this year's INA SS and the Olympics! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Actually, I agree with you badMania... if this is Taufik's attitude, it is better that he retires now. Otherwise PBSI will fire him in disgraceful circumstances... :o

Even with that, Taufik still showed up in Singapore last week (presumably on his own expenses??).

If that's what Taufik want, PBSI should just honor it straight away and give the chance to Simon. Who knows he might do a Sony and won a bronze medal??

Even with that, Taufik still showed up in Singapore last week (presumably on his own expenses??).

If that's what Taufik want, PBSI should just honor it straight away and give the chance to Simon. Who knows he might do a Sony and won a bronze medal??

Exactly! I will just send Simon! ;)

Exactly! I will just send Simon! ;)

Can that be done though? No rules or anything that'll prohibit the swap of players?

What's the reason behind his withdrawal (considering this is a home event)??? If I were PBSI, I would drop his name from the Olympics list immediately and replace him with Simon Santoso :cool:

That will never happen. PBSI will never subtitute Taufik with Simon no matter how bad taufik attitude is.

Reason is simple: from 3 of Indonesia single players, Taufik still the player who had the best chances to win a medal. Sony or even Simon even in their top condition had a very small chances to win any medal at Olympics excpet that if all the seeded players lost at first round.

Though Taufik plays only around 50-60% of his best 2-3 years ago, he still had the best chance to try to go into Olympic semifinal.

I agree that we didnot send Taufik and replace him with Simon. But PBSI will never do that cause I do think the only medals we get is from badminton sport and nothing else.

So PBSI will sent players who they think had the best chances to get a medal no matter how bad their attitude is.

I agree that we didnot send Taufik and replace him with Simon. But PBSI will never do that cause I do think the only medals we get is from badminton sport and nothing else.

So PBSI will sent players who they think had the best chances to get a medal no matter how bad their attitude is.

I don't agree with this completely...INA only really cares about winning the GOLD medal...it is pretty much guaranteed that we will win either silver or bronze from one of the badminton events. But what matters is gold. ANd , based on his current form & attitude, TH has next to zero chance of winning back for his gold. His main rivals - LD, TH, BCL, CJ - have pretty much figured out how to beat him (when was the last time TH beat any of these players?). I think TH is just enjoying his new celebrity status too much...perhaps not even realising that his reign as OG champion (his only claim to fame, at the moment) will almost certainly end in 2 month's time.

I think it would be wiser for PBSI to send Sony and Simon instead. Sony because he has an outside chance of winning gold (his chances aren't great but they're certainly not worse than TH's), and SImon because he will get valuable experience come 2012 olympics. Remember that TH lost 2000 olympics, and went on to win 2004. LD lost tamely in 2004, and is a favorite to win it this time. TH's threat not to play at OG is just lame - he needs to defend the OG title for his own legacy, more than PBSI needs him....besides , PBSI can still rely on Nova/Liyana & MK/HS to win a gold..

I don't agree with this completely...INA only really cares about winning the GOLD medal...it is pretty much guaranteed that we will win either silver or bronze from one of the badminton events. But what matters is gold. ANd , based on his current form & attitude, TH has next to zero chance of winning back for his gold. His main rivals - LD, TH, BCL, CJ - have pretty much figured out how to beat him (when was the last time TH beat any of these players?). I think TH is just enjoying his new celebrity status too much...perhaps not even realising that his reign as OG champion (his only claim to fame, at the moment) will almost certainly end in 2 month's time.

I think it would be wiser for PBSI to send Sony and Simon instead. Sony because he has an outside chance of winning gold (his chances aren't great but they're certainly not worse than TH's), and SImon because he will get valuable experience come 2012 olympics. Remember that TH lost 2000 olympics, and went on to win 2004. LD lost tamely in 2004, and is a favorite to win it this time. TH's threat not to play at OG is just lame - he needs to defend the OG title for his own legacy, more than PBSI needs him....besides , PBSI can still rely on Nova/Liyana & MK/HS to win a gold..

The key is, who in PBSI dare to touch Taufik? Is the career ending move for anyone just to suggest that!!!

I agree with replacing TH by SS, but regarding "when was the last time TH beat any of these players?"... I don't think Sony or Simon did any better than TH.

TH beat CJ in 2007 Indonesia Open; Sony beat BCL in Swiss 2007 (May be some other tournament, but should be early 2007. BCL played with injury); Simon beat LD in Swiss 2007 (LD played with injury).

So, TH still did best. :D

I don't agree with this completely...INA only really cares about winning the GOLD medal...it is pretty much guaranteed that we will win either silver or bronze from one of the badminton events. But what matters is gold. ANd , based on his current form & attitude, TH has next to zero chance of winning back for his gold. His main rivals - LD, TH, BCL, CJ - have pretty much figured out how to beat him (when was the last time TH beat any of these players?). I think TH is just enjoying his new celebrity status too much...perhaps not even realising that his reign as OG champion (his only claim to fame, at the moment) will almost certainly end in 2 month's time.

I think it would be wiser for PBSI to send Sony and Simon instead. Sony because he has an outside chance of winning gold (his chances aren't great but they're certainly not worse than TH's), and SImon because he will get valuable experience come 2012 olympics. Remember that TH lost 2000 olympics, and went on to win 2004. LD lost tamely in 2004, and is a favorite to win it this time. TH's threat not to play at OG is just lame - he needs to defend the OG title for his own legacy, more than PBSI needs him....besides , PBSI can still rely on Nova/Liyana & MK/HS to win a gold..

Taufik asked to be sent to SGPR SS, but PBSI said no, because even Coach Mulyo said Taufik is actually not fit and will probably loose in the early rounds. Taufik didn't like PBSI's decision and wrote a letter to the PBSI management that he will not play in this year's INA SS and the Olympics! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Actually, I agree with you badMania... if this is Taufik's attitude, it is better that he retires now. Otherwise PBSI will fire him in disgraceful circumstances... :o

It's very heart-warming to read something like this from someone in the top level. It simply shows that u r someone with strong character :)

PBSI will NOT drop Taufik for Simon, that's for sure. Simon has virtually no chance to stand in the podium whereby Taufik is a celeberity and crowd puller. For marketing $$$ and revenue, the organiser will try to bring taufik for the OG... ;)

No daily thread yet? the qualification round already began....

No daily thread yet? the qualification round already began....


Just follow others country format, replace SO/MO/.. with IO. Be the first INA to do it!!

Just follow others country format, replace SO/MO/.. with IO. Be the first INA to do it!!

No, i don't want to interfere other people's job :)

why kuan beng hong is not playing in indonesia for this tournament????

Truthfully? :o :o :o

Taufik asked to be sent to SGPR SS, but PBSI said no, because even Coach Mulyo said Taufik is actually not fit and will probably loose in the early rounds. Taufik didn't like PBSI's decision and wrote a letter to the PBSI management that he will not play in this year's INA SS and the Olympics! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Actually, I agree with you badMania... if this is Taufik's attitude, it is better that he retires now. Otherwise PBSI will fire him in disgraceful circumstances... :o

That's the real story about TH withdrawal that we want to know. Thx, Krisna. Media version reported TH cancelled to participate INA SS because 'injury' problem. Hmm...as usual the injury reason is so cliche.

That will never happen. PBSI will never subtitute Taufik with Simon no matter how bad taufik attitude is.

So PBSI will sent players who they think had the best chances to get a medal no matter how bad their attitude is.

The key is, who in PBSI dare to touch Taufik? Is the career ending move for anyone just to suggest that!!!

The current PBSI administration ends their reign around October or November 2008. The current PBSI head, Mr. Sutiyoso, is running for the President of Indonesia in the May 2009 elections. Mr. Sutiyoso is going after a bigger prize than just being the head of Indonesian badminton. He might just expel Taufik to prove to the INA voters that he can make tough decisions.

why kuan beng hong is not playing in indonesia for this tournament????

Maybe he needs to "sharpen his knife" at home,will up against JP in Thailand Open.

Maybe he needs to "sharpen his knife" at home,will up against JP in Thailand Open.

yarlo...lcw+misbun is teaching some secret technique and tactic to kbh for jp...:p...helping malaysia have another promising ms...

That's the real story about TH withdrawal that we want to know. Thx, Krisna. Media version reported TH cancelled to participate INA SS because 'injury' problem. Hmm...as usual the injury reason is so cliche.

Earlier report from detik.com said TH insinuates that PBSI is the one that scratch his name from IO's draw. Who's right and who's wrong? :confused:

why kuan beng hong is not playing in indonesia for this tournament????

Maybe he needs to "sharpen his knife" at home,will up against JP in Thailand Open.

No contradiction ah. TH said if you don't send me to SO I will withdraw from IO, then PBSI said OK we will save your energy by scratch your name from the draw. :D

Earlier report from detik.com said TH insinuates that PBSI is the one that scratch his name from IO's draw. Who's right and who's wrong? :confused:

That's the real story about TH withdrawal that we want to know. Thx, Krisna. Media version reported TH cancelled to participate INA SS because 'injury' problem. Hmm...as usual the injury reason is so cliche.
There is always a diplomatic and real reason....:D:D what Krisna said is right....He did not train but went to Singapore instead...;) Great Singapore Sale really got into TH's...:D

There is always a diplomatic and real reason....:D:D what Krisna said is right....He did not train but went to Singapore instead...;) Great Singapore Sale really got into TH's...:D

And to think that I only got to taste the Great Singapore Satay ..... at Old Airport Road Hawker Centre.

There is always a diplomatic and real reason....:D:D what Krisna said is right....He did not train but went to Singapore instead...;) Great Singapore Sale really got into TH's...:D

As far as his celebrity status as the defending champion of OG, his days are numbered :rolleyes:

There is always a diplomatic and real reason....:D:D what Krisna said is right....He did not train but went to Singapore instead...;) Great Singapore Sale really got into TH's...:D

Yeah, I know public figure practically use formality language for media consumption... As I read from KOMPAS today's (June 18,2008) reported TH wasn't ready to compete INA SS probably because he missed training last week due his activity in Singapore. TH stated he was even more ready to participate SIN SS.

Yeah, I know public figure practically use formality language for media consumption... As I read from KOMPAS today's (June 18,2008) reported TH wasn't ready to compete INA SS probably because he missed training last week due his activity in Singapore. TH stated he was even more ready to participate SIN SS.

More reason to kick TH out of IO :)

Earlier report from detik.com said TH insinuates that PBSI is the one that scratch his name from IO's draw. Who's right and who's wrong? :confused:

PBSI scratched his name from the IO draw because Taufik wrote himself out first! :o He dismissed himself first.

I believe, this time around, PBSI is really ready to write him off from PBSI altogether... :o I wish Taufik shall choose the most honorable way out: if he doesn't want to do his job to the best of his abilities anymore, then completely step down and let his successors take over.

Things should be done gracefully and with respect. However imperfect PBSI was [and is], they did provide funds, time, attention, gave him the opportunity for Taufik to rise towards his superstardom...

That means, the road to the quarterfinals for Andre just got a lot smoother... :p
but andre road in this tournament looks very bad as he was ousted by NW of HKG in the 1st round.

but andre road in this tournament looks very bad as he was ousted by NW of HKG in the 1st round.
not that his road looks very bad, but its da end of road for him~! :D

wonder wad happened to Andre.. where's tat guy who won WCH last yr... :D

nvm.. still young...

Truthfully? :o :o :o

Taufik asked to be sent to SGPR SS, but PBSI said no, because even Coach Mulyo said Taufik is actually not fit and will probably loose in the early rounds. Taufik didn't like PBSI's decision and wrote a letter to the PBSI management that he will not play in this year's INA SS and the Olympics! :eek: :eek: :eek:
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..ah, i think this is what we need to read about, some drama before the Olympics game...And what do we know, another drama from our Taufik and PBSI, just before the Olympics, déjà vu all over again (like in 2004)??...:p :o
Ah well, maybe Taufik is trying to find ways to skip the upcoming Olympics, thus so many reasons and excuses....:p :(
once again. :eek:oh my god.............this year IO becoming less and less atractive
..partly because this yr is the Olympics yr. and many top players decided not to attend for the reason of preparation..And this IO tourney, along with the recently ended S'pore Open, happened to occur very close to the Olympics.
Tine may skip INA Open now..she told me and had promised to show up at INA..now it had changed..
..didn't you mention to her coach (from S'pore to Jkt) that you'll follow and "stalk" her every moves, whilst she's in Jkt??..Maybe she decided to pull a fast one on you, by mentioning that she won't come so you won't be able to "follow" her...:p :);)

..ah, i think this is what we need to read about, some drama before the Olympics game...And what do we know, another drama from our Taufik and PBSI, just before the Olympics, déjà vu all over again (like in 2004)??...:p :o
Ah well, maybe Taufik is trying to find ways to skip the upcoming Olympics, thus so many reasons and excuses....:p :(


impossible TH will skip the Olimpics games in beijing.:rolleyes:;)!!!