with 4 MD thru to q-final, for me rexy had done a tremendous job for last 2 years, although 1 pair is from kl racket but 3 pairs under rexy is enough to show rexy credibility and seroiusness to brings up badminton in malaysia to world level.....i hope rexy will continue his service for another 5 years...:D:D:D

with 4 MD thru to q-final, for me rexy had done a tremendous job for last 2 years, although 1 pair is from kl racket but 3 pairs under rexy is enough to show rexy credibility and seroiusness to brings up badminton in malaysia to world level.....i hope rexy will continue his service for another 5 years...:D:D:D

I think MAS has 5 MD in quarter final tomorrow.
Well done.

I think MAS has 5 MD in quarter final tomorrow.
Well done.

look at reiko post time...the mas last md match not finish yet...:p

I think MAS has 5 MD in quarter final tomorrow.
Well done.
ya........especially new combination pair like tbs/kcc.........:):)

look at reiko post time...the mas last md match not finish yet...:p
ya.....i just exclude the last pair cause i tot they will loose........but its a credit for malaysia........5 MD in QF..........standard oviation to rexy:D:D:D:D

ya.....i just exclude the last pair cause i tot they will loose........but its a credit for malaysia........5 MD in QF..........standard oviation to rexy:D:D:D:D

reiko...next time dont exclude them...if they know...they will sad...:p

with 4 MD thru to q-final, for me rexy had done a tremendous job for last 2 years, although 1 pair is from kl racket but 3 pairs under rexy is enough to show rexy credibility and seroiusness to brings up badminton in malaysia to world level.....i hope rexy will continue his service for another 5 years...:D:D:D

I think MAS has 5 MD in quarter final tomorrow.
Well done.

Five pairs in the quarter final of SO. That is very good? :confused:

They should produce it since so much top players didnt taking part.No need to praise Rexy until using the word 'tremendous'.If rexy is really tremendous, where's the TC Cup?

Use the 'tremendous' word when mas pair wins the OG Gold medals.

reiko...next time dont exclude them...if they know...they will sad...:p
of course..............hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa:D:D: D:D:D:D

Five pairs in the quarter final of SO. That is very good? :confused:

They should produce it since so much top players didnt taking part.No need to praise Rexy until using the word 'tremendous'.If rexy is really tremendous, where's the TC Cup?

Use the 'tremendous' word when mas pair wins the OG Gold medals.
comon Dato'.........pls be patient, rexy had produce new young talent players for our future.........thats tremendous right???:D:D:D......i believe in another 2-3 years under him we will see a new champs come from malaysia same that what he did to KKK/TBH.............:(

Then how about MISBUN? MS and WMC also doing well in SO'08

Then how about MISBUN? MS and WMC also doing well in SO'08

its rare to saw terry post nowdays...:D

Then how about MISBUN? MS and WMC also doing well in SO'08
yup.....credit also to misbun cause 3 MS players thru to QF...........:D:D:D:D

its rare to saw terry post nowdays...:D

Then you must also SALUTE me to come back hehe:p

Then you must also SALUTE me to come back hehe:p

i always respect veteren and my senior in bc...i show my respect...hehe..but...i dont want to call u uncle:p...hehe...bro terry...I SALUTE...:D

Five pairs in the quarter final of SO. That is very good? :confused:

They should produce it since so much top players didnt taking part.No need to praise Rexy until using the word 'tremendous'.If rexy is really tremendous, where's the TC Cup?

Use the 'tremendous' word when mas pair wins the OG Gold medals.
This is the first time in history of any SS that a single country manage to capture 5 spots in a category. Not even the mighty CHN team able to achieve this in their pet events - Women's single:eek:
Although the top 3 ranked & Korean pairs wasn't here, but it is still considered a marvellous achievement to MAS MD team.
U can't blame REXY alone for failing to win the TC Cup, MD only contribute 2 points in a team event which overall strength is their key of winning. MAS lost to a great team who got that element in 5 disciplines. nothing to ashamed about.

This is the first time in history of any SS that a single country manage to capture 5 spots in a category. Not even the mighty CHN team able to achieve this in their pet events - Women's single:eek:
Although the top 3 ranked & Korean pairs wasn't here, but it is still considered a marvellous achievement to MAS MD team.
U can't blame REXY alone for failing to win the TC Cup, MD only contribute 2 points in a team event which overall strength is their key of winning. MAS lost to a great team who got that element in 5 disciplines. nothing to ashamed about.

If u count those "top pairs" that are missing from SO, it's not rocket science to figure out why Msia managed to dominate the MD with FIVE "kacang" pairs :rolleyes: Technically speaking, only the Fuzzy has the skills/speed/power. The rest, just making up the numbers :cool:

If u count those "top pairs" that are missing from SO, it's not rocket science to figure out why Msia managed to dominate the MD with FIVE "kacang" pairs :rolleyes: Technically speaking, only the Fuzzy has the skills/speed/power. The rest, just making up the numbers :cool:
jimbo...what u mean by kacang pair???............pls justified??:D

with 4 MD thru to q-final, for me rexy had done a tremendous job for last 2 years, although 1 pair is from kl racket but 3 pairs under rexy is enough to show rexy credibility and seroiusness to brings up badminton in malaysia to world level.....i hope rexy will continue his service for another 5 years...:D:D:D

A lot of big guns are missing. Why dont we hold the Malaysia Boleh champagne until after the Olympics?

A lot of big guns are missing. Why dont we hold the Malaysia Boleh champagne until after the Olympics?

Agreed. Just don't to be too complacent.

It's not a big deal m'sian MD is doing well here....with so many other top pairs missing....it doesn't justify much

It is still early to justify that the MAS MD are doing well here as it is just the QF stage,anything could happen next.

Yes,having 5 MD out of 8 spot in the Super Series are "a bit outstanding" but we must pray hard that history won't happen again...remember in the 2006 All England?MAS was having 4 MD out of 8 in the QF but who was the winner in the end?It was Jens Eriksen-Martin Lungard Hansen.Correct me if I were wrong.

5 pairs in the QF is good for MAS team morale. But like others have alluded to, the acid test is how they would fair in a tournament with all the top pairs present. Reserving judgement until that happens.

wad bout we send all our pairs to lower rank tournament and having fill up 8 Mas MD in q-final... good??? :D

we should not only counting quantity...i count in quality of match...ours youngster and veteren was just good enough and deserve...maybe beating guo/xie will justify...

there is only 1 winner in each tournament. We will know the Malaysia MD are just making up number or a deserve winner. Wait and see.....

we'll c on this sun .. :D

we'll c on this sun .. :D
all malaysian double semi final:D:D:D:D:D.........i told you rexy is great

we should not only counting quantity...i count in quality of match...ours youngster and veteren was just good enough and deserve...maybe beating guo/xie will justify...

haha...as i say...we justify this thread...:D

all malaysian double semi final:D:D:D:D:D.........i told you rexy is great

No lah Reiko, it's one Msia MD guaranteed to final & guaranteed at least runner-up. Fuzzy pair must beat Korea 3rd MD : Cho/Yoo in Semis.

No lah Reiko, it's one Msia MD guaranteed to final & guaranteed at least runner-up. Fuzzy pair must beat Korea 3rd MD : Cho/Yoo in Semis.

i think they will

i think they will
sure limsy and eng..............they will beat korean pairs:D:D:D:D

hmm, 3 MAS pairs in the semi final 2moro..
any comments?

hmm, 3 MAS pairs in the semi final 2moro..
any comments?

superb...:D...^^...hehe...if not of the draw...malaysia would have 4 in semis...:crying:

It is great to see my young beloved pairs make it to the semis especially Muhammad Razif Latif and Tan Wei Kiong. They fought hard to win against China. I am proud of them as they have very high fighting spirit. Thank you to all the coaches and support staffs. Without you,no success for us.Malaysia Boleh!

It is great to see that Malaysia is producing more talented young pairs to play in the future. It is a great exposure for the youngster to advance in their game and developed sense of confident. Thank you to Mr. Rexy and his assistants for producing such talented pairs for us. It is great to be a part of this team.Not forgotten, all the support staffs. I also appreciate Mr. Misbun Sidek as he guides LCW and WMC into the semis. Well done, Malaysia! Please conquer titles for me as I believe it is our best moment to win in my own backyard.Malaysia Boleh!

It's nothing to shout about, but it's better than I had expected, especially the wins over Luluk/Alven (not overly surprising given the experience of Chan/Chew), Guo/Xie and Masuda/Ohtsuka.

However, we must keep in mind that quantity is useless if no quality emerges from it. We have the quantity, but do we have the pair (besides Koo/Tan, Choong/Lee and Fairuz/Zakry) that can shake the top order of MD?

It's nothing to shout about, but it's better than I had expected, especially the wins over Luluk/Alven (not overly surprising given the experience of Chan/Chew), Guo/Xie and Masuda/Ohtsuka.

However, we must keep in mind that quantity is useless if no quality emerges from it. We have the quantity, but do we have the pair (besides Koo/Tan, Choong/Lee and Fairuz/Zakry) that can shake the top order of MD?

It's not too shabby, talking abt the young guns that is, officially CCM/CCE are on their own, not under Rexy.
Considering Wee Kiong's partnership with Thien How was 'out 1st round' most times. Razif was ok with Khoo CK, after beating Luluk/Alvent they also inconsistent.

YapKH said they might make Razif/Wee Kiong permanent pair.
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Saturday/Sport/2267179/Article/index_html

It's nothing to shout about, but it's better than I had expected, especially the wins over Luluk/Alven (not overly surprising given the experience of Chan/Chew), Guo/Xie and Masuda/Ohtsuka.

However, we must keep in mind that quantity is useless if no quality emerges from it. We have the quantity, but do we have the pair (besides Koo/Tan, Choong/Lee and Fairuz/Zakry) that can shake the top order of MD?

winning over masuda/ohtsuka,guo/xie is beyond their ability already...should praise them...they are just small kid...:D

It's nothing to shout about, but it's better than I had expected, especially the wins over Luluk/Alven (not overly surprising given the experience of Chan/Chew), Guo/Xie and Masuda/Ohtsuka.

However, we must keep in mind that quantity is useless if no quality emerges from it. We have the quantity, but do we have the pair (besides Koo/Tan, Choong/Lee and Fairuz/Zakry) that can shake the top order of MD?
Which other country has 3 solid MDs and with more to come?

Which other country has 3 solid MDs and with more to come?

i think in two years time...dane and china will be none in top16 of md...so...malaysia,ina,korea will have more in the top 16 ranking...and with malaysia with more in top 32...:D

sorry...i forget about boe and his patner...but still...bye bye to china...malaysia,ina,korea rock the world...

Which other country has 3 solid MDs and with more to come?

hmm...if candra/tony include as ina team...so...hmm...only ina can compare with us..:p

but two strong md from korea is enough to rock the world...but tougher lor...:D

i think in two years time...dane and china will be none in top16 of md...so...malaysia,ina,korea will have more in the top 16 ranking...and with malaysia with more in top 32...:D

No more Chinese & Danish pairs in the top 16 in 2 years time?? Shall we not get over zealous, after all the Chinese & Danes have a proud badminton history and achievements.

The question is will Msia win either the WC or the next Olympic gold should we have numerous pairs in the top 16? ;)

No more Chinese & Danish pairs in the top 16 in 2 years time?? Shall we not get over zealous, after all the Chinese & Danes have a proud badminton history and achievements.

The question is will Msia win either the WC or the next Olympic gold should we have numerous pairs in the top 16? ;)

read again my edit...hmm...china cant do more as caiyun will be 30 at 2010 if i am not mistaken...

with we have more pairs in top ranking...we can reduce opponent chance in ss to win the title...if there are many pairs in top ranking...meaning we have good quality and quantity in md...choosing the best of the best will increase ours chance in wc/og too...

read again my edit...hmm...china cant do more as caiyun will be 30 at 2010 if i am not mistaken...

with we have more pairs in top ranking...we can reduce opponent chance in ss to win the title...if there are many pairs in top ranking...meaning we have good quality and quantity in md...choosing the best of the best will increase ours chance in wc/og too...

My friend, when it comes to China, dont underestimate two things, i.e their production line and LYB. We are talking about the most successful country here in badminton terms.

So, according to your estimate MAS in 2 years with more pairs in the top 16 should be looking at our first WC title & Olympic gold??

My friend, when it comes to China, dont underestimate two things, i.e their production line and LYB. We are talking about the most successful country here in badminton terms.

So, according to your estimate MAS in 2 years with more pairs in the top 16 should be looking at our first WC title & Olympic gold??

hmm...not i underestimate...lyb can proof me wrong right after OG...maybe he will promoting younger pair in international stage...if they is good enough...i take back my word...ok???...:D

ya...i hoping so too...

hmm...not i underestimate...lyb can proof me wrong right after OG...maybe he will promoting younger pair in international stage...if they is good enough...i take back my word...ok???...:D

ya...i hoping so too...

I see China will continue to dominate in years to come with Korea, Indonesia and Denmark giving them some sort of fight.

As for Malaysia, I dont see us either winning the WC, the Olympic gold and the TC in the next ten years or so.

I see China will continue to dominate in years to come with Korea, Indonesia and Denmark giving them some sort of fight.

As for Malaysia, I dont see us either winning the WC, the Olympic gold and the TC in the next ten years or so.

ok...let see who will take back his word...

I see China will continue to dominate in years to come with Korea, Indonesia and Denmark giving them some sort of fight.

As for Malaysia, I dont see us either winning the WC, the Olympic gold and the TC in the next ten years or so.
That 's the attitude of a quitter.

Good prospect to create all-MAS-final tomorrow as on paper Fairuz/Zakry will wrap up the Korean pair Cho/Yoo. MAS MD really dominates this SS despite many top-pairs skip it...

That 's the attitude of a quitter.

Kinda hard to accept reality, eh? Some people can accept it with an open mind while some will react like a schoolboy who just lost all his sweets. ;)

ok...let see who will take back his word...

Gladly...... ;)

applause for youngster that upset the form book...especially kiong kiong and razif...

It is great to see that Malaysia is producing more talented young pairs to play in the future. It is a great exposure for the youngster to advance in their game and developed sense of confident. Thank you to Mr. Rexy and his assistants for producing such talented pairs for us. It is great to be a part of this team.Not forgotten, all the support staffs. I also appreciate Mr. Misbun Sidek as he guides LCW and WMC into the semis. Well done, Malaysia! Please conquer titles for me as I believe it is our best moment to win in my own backyard.Malaysia Boleh!

Make your appreciation speech when mas team success in the upcoming OG.

What to be proud WMC in the semis? She should be there coz the powerhouse didnt send their best players.

LCW? He should win the tournament. LD is not there, BCL is not there, and alot is also not there.

About the MD's, we have KKK/TBH as a lesson for mas team.

We always praise and praise our players when they got a bit of achievements. Then the players become bighead, like Triple K.What happen?

i think in two years time...dane and china will be none in top16 of md...so...malaysia,ina,korea will have more in the top 16 ranking...and with malaysia with more in top 32...:D

sorry...i forget about boe and his patner...but still...bye bye to china...malaysia,ina,korea rock the world...

U r underestimate the ability of CHN and LYB.

I see China will continue to dominate in years to come with Korea, Indonesia and Denmark giving them some sort of fight.

As for Malaysia, I dont see us either winning the WC, the Olympic gold and the TC in the next ten years or so.

We always hv the best team to win the TC, but everytime also cant win it.

And mas only got 1 good players, that is LCW. other than him, i see no one.

U r underestimate the ability of CHN and LYB.

read my reply for pemuda...

We always hv the best team to win the TC, but everytime also cant win it.

And mas only got 1 good players, that is LCW. other than him, i see no one.

In KKK, we got a shuttler who got style i.e. gold rings, bracelets, Gucci hat, chains, blonde hairdo etc etc.

Winning is not everything. We need to have gaya too. ;)

In KKK, we got a shuttler who got style i.e. gold rings, bracelets, Gucci hat, chains, blonde hairdo etc etc.

Winning is not everything. We need to have gaya too. ;)
Um, hasn't he now returned to black hair? :p

Top 8, possible. Top 16? I believe there will always be at least one CHN pair and one Danish pair.

i think in two years time...dane and china will be none in top16 of md...so...malaysia,ina,korea will have more in the top 16 ranking...and with malaysia with more in top 32...:D

sorry...i forget about boe and his patner...but still...bye bye to china...malaysia,ina,korea rock the world...

In KKK, we got a shuttler who got style i.e. gold rings, bracelets, Gucci hat, chains, blonde hairdo etc etc.

Winning is not everything. We need to have gaya too. ;)

Correct.

Lost doesnt matter, gaya misti ada.:D

i think in two years time...dane and china will be none in top16 of md...so...malaysia,ina,korea will have more in the top 16 ranking...and with malaysia with more in top 32...:D

sorry...i forget about boe and his patner...but still...bye bye to china...malaysia,ina,korea rock the world...

I think that's a rather naive point of view. Maybe you're a little giddy from MAS's success in the poorly attended SIN SS. I don't think anyone who knows the game well is too carried away with it.

Also, no need to knock CHN. Trust me, they can and will develop strong MD pairs to fill the top 16 in the next 2 years. Their MD situation is similar to MAS's in MS. After LCW, who else do they have that has anyone quaking in their boots? ..... exactly.

Some guys here are a bit too optimistic about Malaysia, and some guys (well, one or two) a bit pessimistic. But then, it's always been like that here, hasn't it?

Some guys here are a bit too optimistic about Malaysia, and some guys (well, one or two) a bit pessimistic. But then, it's always been like that here, hasn't it?

Agree...That's the best part of badminton...or in other sports too...the life without badminton would be so boring heh.

I think it's clear that Rexy changed MAS MD. Most non-top MD pairs are indeed missing in this SIN open, but don't forget the top 2 MAS pairs are also not there. Since most "2nd level" MD pairs are indeed in the tournament, it's a good comparison of "backup" pairs all major badminton powers.

Rexy hasn't been very successful in improving the top pairs (but who was ever successful? It's very very hard to make an already top level pair stronger), but he has been very successful in building an army of 2nd level MDs for MAS. :D

It should be compared to what TSF did to INA MS. In fact, after 08, is it possible that MAS MD become like INA MS in the early 90s?

I wonder why CHN couldn't produce a few strong MD pairs like they did in other disciplines.They have so many world class players in MS,WS,WD&XD.MD is their weaklink for so many years already.

That's called "tradition"... :cool:

I wonder why CHN couldn't produce a few strong MD pairs like they did in other disciplines.They have so many world class players in MS,WS,WD&XD.MD is their weaklink for so many years already.

I see China will continue to dominate in years to come with Korea, Indonesia and Denmark giving them some sort of fight.

As for Malaysia, I dont see us either winning the WC, the Olympic gold and the TC in the next ten years or so.

We disagree again, Pemuda, I see Malaysia winning the WC, OG and TC in the next ten years, but beyond that, I am not sure... I believe Chong Wei, CTF/LWW, WMC, KKK/TBH (in that order) are good contenders for gold at OG08.

However, our second tier and younger teams are worrisome. In ten years time, I think our chances at OG WC or TC glory is small.

I wonder why CHN couldn't produce a few strong MD pairs like they did in other disciplines.They have so many world class players in MS,WS,WD&XD.MD is their weaklink for so many years already.

I believe it is because of the Chinese culture of putting singles above doubles. Lots of young players or young children are pushed by their parents to play singles instead of doubles. More prize money, no need to divide up prize money etc. In addition, I think Chinese badminton culture is inherently focussed on the MS component instead of MD, while Indonesia, Malaysia and Korea are more focussed on doubles. It is not because the Chinese teams are bad, rather, it is because the Malaysian, Indonesian and Korean (Denmark used to be on the list) are too good.

I think it's clear that Rexy changed MAS MD. Most non-top MD pairs are indeed missing in this SIN open, but don't forget the top 2 MAS pairs are also not there. Since most "2nd level" MD pairs are indeed in the tournament, it's a good comparison of "backup" pairs all major badminton powers.

Rexy hasn't been very successful in improving the top pairs (but who was ever successful? It's very very hard to make an already top level pair stronger), but he has been very successful in building an army of 2nd level MDs for MAS. :D

It should be compared to what TSF did to INA MS. In fact, after 08, is it possible that MAS MD become like INA MS in the early 90s?

yes...totally agree...not naive lar...madbad...i mean in both quality and quatity...even if china produce one or two pairs to fill top 16 in 2 years time...it still like lcw vs china trio...get what i mean???...after beating cj,have bcl...after beating bcl,have lindan(with bcl as asisstance coach):(

where is ong soon hock?

Isnt he suppose to partner tan bin seng?

where is ong soon hock?

Isnt he suppose to partner tan bin seng?

They switch. Ong Soon Hock now with Hoon Thien How. Tan Bin Shen with Khoo CHung Kiat. But dont think it's permanent. They're experimenting.
A with B, A with C, A with D.

http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=22171&draw=6

I wonder why CHN couldn't produce a few strong MD pairs like they did in other disciplines.They have so many world class players in MS,WS,WD&XD.MD is their weaklink for so many years already.

They hv world clss MD also- CY/FHF. 1 pair only and its amongst the best pair in the world.Thats enough.

mas produce so many talented pairs, we see it in this SO. But how many pairs can really be the top pair in the world?

They hv world clss MD also- CY/FHF. 1 pair only and its amongst the best pair in the world.Thats enough.

mas produce so many talented pairs, we see it in this SO. But how many pairs can really be the top pair in the world?


I want to make it clear here that I have no intension to look down on CHN(in MD).My point is--why CHN couldn't produce more MD pairs (in a long term running),whereby they were so dominant in the MS,WS,WD and XD?

Yes,we can't deny that CY-FHF are one of the top pair in the world of currently.The fact is,other than CY-FHF or rather XZB-GZD,can you name any other pair in the CHN team,which can take over their place after their retirement?

CHN such a powerhouse in world of badminton for decades,have been producing so many world class players in MS,WS and even they were so impressive in WD and XD,but why not in MD?There would be no worrisome of who's going to take over the senior's place in those 4 departments (at least no worries for the upcoming 5 years).

It is kinda sad the lack of youngsters who could take over in the MD department will be go on and on.Until when?I don't know.

Um, hasn't he now returned to black hair? :p

No time now to visit the hair saloon to dye his hair due to his recent accident.

We disagree again, Pemuda, I see Malaysia winning the WC, OG and TC in the next ten years, but beyond that, I am not sure... I believe Chong Wei, CTF/LWW, WMC, KKK/TBH (in that order) are good contenders for gold at OG08.

However, our second tier and younger teams are worrisome. In ten years time, I think our chances at OG WC or TC glory is small.

MAS to win the WC, OG & TC in the coming ten years??? OOOOOk ... I will hold my breath then ;)

LCW, CTF/LWW, WMC, KKK/TBH good contenders for the gold in Beijing???

Errr ... sorry no, I gotta disagree.

CTF/LWW - have never won anything major. And in their advanced age now, I doubt they can keep up with the younger pairs.

WMC - I like her fighting spirit. But technique wise, she is a couple of rungs behind the chinese shuttlers. I see her making the semis at most.

KKK/TBH - I am sorry. This pair lost the plot after winning the AE. I predict an early exit for them in Beijing.

LCW - Yes, he have been showing good form of late. But I still think he will freeze in big tournaments. And in Beijing, LD's backyard, I doubt LCW have the mental toughness to hack it. A bronze or a silver at most.

LCW is used to play under pressure in foreign countries. He is no Jaguh Kampung anymore. Yes he may have pressure playing in China. But i think Lindan will have the most pressure over there. Anyway i hope that LCW will do well in Beijing. He still have a chance to win the Gold.

LD & pressure goes hand in hand. The trophies in his cabinet are ample proof that the man can hack it better than most.

LCW, again dont have the big titles LD have. And LCW have cracked before under pressure.

Beijing will be the testing ground.

LD & pressure goes hand in hand. The trophies in his cabinet are ample proof that the man can hack it better than most.

LCW, again dont have the big titles LD have. And LCW have cracked before under pressure.

Beijing will be the testing ground.

I agree with you. Hope he will do well and pass with flying colors.

I agree with you. Hope he will do well and pass with flying colors.

I will add a little more .... I hope LCW will pass the test in Beijing (prove his doubters wrong, me included) and I HOPE our celebrations then would not spoil or pamper our shuttler.

I will add a little more .... I hope LCW will pass the test in Beijing (prove his doubters wrong, me included) and I HOPE our celebrations then would not spoil or pamper our shuttler.


LCW is more better in handling that than the young doubles
pair in handling his fame...i trust..
his biggest opponent is his ability to be consistent
if he can do that....he will be near LD...

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WMC - I like her fighting spirit. But technique wise, she is a couple of rungs behind the chinese shuttlers. I see her making the semis at most.

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Not only below the Chinese, already noticed how she being outplayed totally by Tine Rasmussen in more than one occasion;)

I agree.. it would be a miracle if WMC wins the GOld. Tine is simply too good and she is a REAL contender for the Gold. The Chinese has to be careful and at the same time Tine needs to finetune her game and extend her stamina gauge. There is still some flaws in her game at the moment.