Tuesday June 24, 2008
Badminton: Coach Rexy unhappy with Kien Keat’s no-show
By RAJES PAUL
KUALA LUMPUR: One doubles player overcame stomach cramps and knee pains to win at the Indonesian Open. Another has yet to show up for training since a freak accident.

And the different level of commitment showed by Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari and Koo Kien Keat over the last one week has drawn mixed reactions from national doubles chief coach Rexy Mainaky.

He has praises for Fairuzizuan, who together with Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif beat the formidable American-Indonesian combination of Candra Wijaya-Tony Gunawan to win the Indonesian Open title last Sunday.

A week earlier in Singapore, Fairuzizuan-Zakry won their first international Open title.

“Fairuzizuan did not give up even though he was not in the best condition. He gave a determined performance and the right attitude helped him win the title,” said Rexy.

The Indonesian attributed the rise of Fairuzizuan and Zakry as a world-beating combination with back-to-back titles to the better commitment of the former.

“It would have been nice if they had been doing this (playing well) since the start of the Olympic qualifying period (May last year). Then Zakry was more focused on the tasks. But now, Fairuzizuan is showing the same desire to excel,” said Rexy.

“They may have missed the boat to the Olympics but they are now the right candidates to replace (Choong) Tan Fook-(Lee) Wan Wah after the Beijing Games. They will prepare for the World Championships (in India) next year.”

Rexy said that he wanted the Olympic-bound doubles players, especially Kien Keat, to be inspired with the recent performances of Zakry-Fairuzizuan.

He was disappointed yesterday that Kien Keat’s return to court for training with his partner, Tan Boon Heong, was delayed again. Kien Keat had been undergoing rehabilitation programme for three weeks since injuring himself in Bukit Jalil when he broke the glass pane that he was leaning on.

“He was supposed to report for training today. All the stitches had been removed but he said he needs two more days. What is he waiting for? Does he want to join training in August?” said Rexy.

The team for the Olympics are scheduled to leave for Beijing on Aug 5.

“I am not expecting him to resume gruelling training immediately. It would be nice if he had come and practised on his serve and slowly get into training mode rhythm.

“It is that little extra and the ability to handle hardship that I hope to see in the players, especially those preparing for the Olympics.”

Meanwhile, Rexy confirmed that Zakry-Fairuzizuan will skip the Thailand Open, which begins tomorrow in Bangkok.





Where are you? Olympic-bound Koo Kien Keat has yet to report for training under national coach Rexy Mainaky.

It seems remarkable to me that he has yet to return to court training (even without the racket) three weeks after the accident and just over 7 weeks to go before OG.

Like Rexy says he could at least do serving practise.

I think just by showing up in a wheelchair or a cast shows commitment and team morale.

..maybe KKK is in Vienna, watching the Euro Cup??...Coincidence also our Pemuda will be traveling overseas to Vienna??.. :rolleyes: ;)

Who knows what the real reason is but on the surface, it smacks of unprofessionalism and selfishness. I wonder if this boy really understands the responsibilities of being a pro or if he's beyond reclamation. The more he behaves this way, the more tongues will wag. Basically, he's brought it all upon himself. I can feel the disappointment in many fans, who are questioning his commitment and even common sense. Did the early success and AE title really go that badly to his head? Right now, KKK must grow up or he'll be treated accordingly.

Wednesday June 25, 2008

Kien Keat starts light training following a freak accident

By RAJES PAUL

KUALA LUMPUR: Doubles shuttler Koo Kien Keat has finally got over his frustration of not getting to play badminton. He was back on court at the Gymnasium II in Bukit Jalil yesterday.
And by next week, he should be able to get down to serious preparation for the Beijing Olympics together with his partner, Tan Boon Heong.
Kien Keat, who had to undergo rehabilitation programmes at the National Sports Institute (NSI) to strengthen his hand following a freak accident three weeks ago, said that he was quite upset with himself last week.
He was recovering from cuts and bruises sustained when he broke the glass pane he was leaning on.
“I was very happy when all the stitches were removed. I tried to play badminton last week but my hand was still hurting. It was very frustrating when I could not even execute a decent serve,” said Kien Keat.
“At that time, I felt very disappointed with myself. I did not want to hold the badminton racquet or go to the court, not until I was perfectly all right.”
The delay in resuming training made national doubles chief coach Rexy Mainaky restless.
But yesterday, Kien Keat brought the smile back on the Indonesian when he went through a light workout with Boon Heong.
“I should have informed my coach on when I could resume court training. Anyway, I was only given the green light by my physical trainer to begin today,” said Kien Keat.
“There is still a little discomfort. I feel like sensations of electric current going through my hand when I go for strokes.
“I am taking it slowly and spending more time on warm-ups. I should be able to get back to full training next week.”
Kien Keat-Boon Heong are one of the two Malaysian men's pairs for the Beijing Games in August. Veterans Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah are the other pair in the fray.
Malaysia last won an Olympic medal through Cheah Soon Kit-Yap at the 1996 Atlanta Games. They were beaten by Rexy-Ricky Subagja in the final.

I think just by showing up in a wheelchair or a cast shows commitment and team morale.

Koo Kien Keat is probably waiting for the last of the SO/IO celebrations to die down.
With Fuzzy in the spotlight, who's gonna notice it if KKK returns to regular, hard training right now?

The man eats, drinks and sleeps publicity, doesn't he? ;)

On the other hand, he might also be confident that he doesn't need to train too hard to win the gold at Beijing 2008.

After all, it's not that bad out there... or, is it? :rolleyes:

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By the way:
...a cast for a stitched-up injury? :p

Come on guys ... in the name of Malaysia Boleh, lets give KKK another chance ok?

The lad is still young and learning. Its ok if he make a boo boo out of this Olympics, there is always the next one in 4 years time.

Maybe KKK couldnt turn up for training as he was in the hairdresser getting his hair coloured or something.

And I think BAM should arrange for a driver to ferry KKK to training and back.

Lets support our lovely KKK no matter what ok?

Malaysia Boleh to all. :D

Maybe he was thinking about a trip to Europe wth Pemuda. :D Let's not be harsh on the guy. After all, it seems he doesn't communicate with his coach or his partner. Who are we to expect great things?

is this what we call arrogant??
:p

as a key man of national MD team, kkk should be in touch with rexy about his recovery state, and not having rexy wondering what happening to him.

In lieu of Pemuda, KKK is a key man. The keys to the disco/hair salon!!!

Sorry, lame.

-dave

For all the people who jumped to conclusion by ostracising KKK, the news today said he could not even serve without feeling 'pins and needles' in the arm. Now that he is back at practice, he apologised for not explaining that better to the coach.

And obviously, Rexy would be concerned because his reputation is at stake if KKK does not perform. But the fact is KKK was genuine about his predicament.

Seems that so many thread about KKK. Sometimes gets bored.....

In lieu of Pemuda, KKK is a key man. The keys to the disco/hair salon!!!

Sorry, lame.

-dave

Not lame at all. U missed out: Armani shirt :eek::rolleyes::D

Seems that so many thread about KKK. Sometimes gets bored.....

Errr... shall we start talking about... errr... LCW&WMC? :D:p

i think there is no need to create this thread imo..
i mean, whats the point actually?

i think there is no need to create this thread imo..
i mean, whats the point actually?

Yup...what's the point of creating this thread?Perhaps many find it life would be dull and boring without "debating" on KKK's issue prior to the Olympic.:confused:

Yup...what's the point of creating this thread?Perhaps many find it life would be dull and boring without "debating" on KKK's issue prior to the Olympic.:confused:it was started with an news article. Like any news, it get updated as time goes on.

To me the second article smacks of a PR excercise to cover the initial article.

Regardless of the hypothesising about his attitude, Rexy is his boss. If I didn't let my boss know when I was coming back and didn't do any work at all until my return, then He wouldn't be happy.

To me the second article smacks of a PR excercise to cover the initial article.

Regardless of the hypothesising about his attitude, Rexy is his boss. If I didn't let my boss know when I was coming back and didn't do any work at all until my return, then He wouldn't be happy.
:eek:
that is a good news for you.
not, he just hand you a letter saying "james, this is your last paycheck. now, you may leave at the soonest.........."

Koo Kien Keat is probably waiting for the last of the SO/IO celebrations to die down.
With Fuzzy in the spotlight, who's gonna notice it if KKK returns to regular, hard training right now?

The man eats, drinks and sleeps publicity, doesn't he? ;)

On the other hand, he might also be confident that he doesn't need to train too hard to win the gold at Beijing 2008.

After all, it's not that bad out there... or, is it? :rolleyes:

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By the way:
...a cast for a stitched-up injury? :p
the actual fact is : Training is a waste of time for KKK, no matter how hard he train, his minds already set at Beijing's disco and a great wall tour :p

the actual fact is : Training is a waste of time for KKK, no matter how hard he train, his minds already set at Beijing's disco and a great wall tour :p

haha... I am sure he will visit local "ktv" and enjoy the "2-5-8" service :eek::D

Yup...what's the point of creating this thread?Perhaps many find it life would be dull and boring without "debating" on KKK's issue prior to the Olympic.:confused:

Errr, isnt Thailand GP on now? Unless some find cheering for the youngsters & 2 tier players boring.

Seems that so many thread about KKK. Sometimes gets bored.....

ohhh, is that why you stimes side track to Hafiz & also digging up the old threads in Prof Players sub forum? Dato will make good sports commentator. :D:D

Could not even serve without feeling pins and needles in the arm is not an excuse. If KKK is unable to turn up because of pins and needles, he should have called Rexy and keep the man informed. This is called basic courtesy. Not calling Rexy and keeping his coach in the dark is just unprofessional.

Rexy's reputation is well known. He was a true champion during his playing days.

KKK did not use it as an excuse ! If he is genuinely not comfortable why would it be an excuse ?

If Rexy is happy with the situation, why would you inteprete it differently. As always, you are at your usual best with your bias against him.

Bottom line is that KKK has to improve his communication with Rexy. His absence has put him in a bad position, where it can open to interpretation. As you can see, because of the "superstar" lifestyle he has chosen, many have interpreted in a negative manner. The boy has to accept his responsibilities and buck up. There are not many straws left before the poor camel's back gives in.

Could not even serve without feeling pins and needles in the arm is not an excuse. If KKK is unable to turn up because of pins and needles, he should have called Rexy and keep the man informed. This is called basic courtesy. Not calling Rexy and keeping his coach in the dark is just unprofessional.

Rexy's reputation is well known. He was a true champion during his playing days.

KKK did not use it as an excuse ! If he is genuinely not comfortable why would it be an excuse ?

If Rexy is happy with the situation, why would you inteprete it differently. As always, you are at your usual best with your bias against him.
i might have mis-interpret what Pemuda trying to say....
Pemuda meant, that shall not be an excuse not to call Rexy or chief coach and inform him/them. yes, everyone is entitle sick leave. all that one needs to do, just inform the boss on how many days you will off from duty.

This is a common sense for a employer-employee relationship. If u r on MC or urgent leave, u have to inform ur superior. It's as simple as that. If KKK doesnt seem to understand the basic mutual respect for this kind of relationship, I don't see how he could develop into a world class player :rolleyes:

This is a common sense for a employer-employee relationship. If u r on MC or urgent leave, u have to inform ur superior. It's as simple as that. If KKK doesnt seem to understand the basic mutual respect for this kind of relationship, I don't see how he could develop into a world class player :rolleyes:

He is superstar. No need to report to superior.:D:D

No matter how he act, BAM still need him.

Big head, disco dancer, party kaki etc...

If he really dont want to play badminton, just quit. Dont waste time.

KKK did not use it as an excuse ! If he is genuinely not comfortable why would it be an excuse ?

If Rexy is happy with the situation, why would you inteprete it differently. As always, you are at your usual best with your bias against him.

It's not the matter of he is fit or not to go training, it's the matter of he didnt inform Rexy he is absent.

If u dont respect ppl, why ppl should respect u?

It's not the matter of he is fit or not to go training, it's the matter of he didnt inform Rexy he is absent.

If u dont respect ppl, why ppl should respect u?

As I understand it from the Press, he apologised soon as he realised that Rexy was not informed and was unhappy. Rexy has been quoted as being happy with the apology.

Why make such as big thing out of a small thing ? And the bad thing is it paints him like he purposely refuse training. Furthermore, the ridiculous and unsavory part is that people are trying to make him look like an idiot by incurring the accident. Some of you are so shallow.

As I understand it from the Press, he apologised soon as he realised that Rexy was not informed and was unhappy. Rexy has been quoted as being happy with the apology.

Why make such as big thing out of a small thing ? And the bad thing is it paints him like he purposely refuse training. Furthermore, the ridiculous and unsavory part is that people are trying to make him look like an idiot by incurring the accident. Some of you are so shallow.

He is a professional badminton player. He should inform to his superior, that is Rexy. He didnt. And he apologised for the things. And Rexy accept it happily.

Apology? Means that you can simply made mistakes ?

Watched Sportscenter interviewing KKK, he was only given the green light by the physical trainer to begin on Wednesday(yersterday) instead of Monday.But I was wondering why Rexy not informed about this?There was misunderstanding?Looks like lack of two way communication between them.Well,it is just my opinion.Who knows what is the real reason behind.

The player has both the time and the willingness to inform the press.
But, he has neither the time nor the willingness to inform the coach.

Now, apologies aside, isn't that a bit strange? :rolleyes:

The player has both the time and the willingness to inform the press.
But, he has neither the time nor the willingness to inform the coach.

Now, apologies aside, isn't that a bit strange? :rolleyes:
cause the press comes and ask KKK............;)

The player has both the time and the willingness to inform the press.
But, he has neither the time nor the willingness to inform the coach.

Now, apologies aside, isn't that a bit strange? :rolleyes:

Obviously, something is missing here ==> RESPECT :rolleyes:

Watched Sportscenter interviewing KKK, he was only given the green light by the physical trainer to begin on Wednesday(yersterday) instead of Monday.But I was wondering why Rexy not informed about this?There was misunderstanding?Looks like lack of two way communication between them.Well,it is just my opinion.Who knows what is the real reason behind.
with the OG just around the corner, rexy is a very busy man. He is strategizing, supervise training, observing players in SO, IO and TO, plus who knows what, it is only common sense and as a subordinate duty that KKK and/or his physican update kkk's recovery progress. How hard is it to give rexy a call from your couch watching tv??

One way for kkk to eliminate the so called 'miscommunicatoin' is to show up at the team practice. This way, rexy will get first hand update on kkk situation. Even if kkk can't serve, he can still discuss tactics and strategy planning for each opposing MD pairs that he might meet. It would boost morale of his partner tbh too if kkk is presence.

Think about it - you guys don't have the full story and you go on like you know everything.

Rexy IS HAPPY with the situation - he did not BLOW UP like last time with KKK. Let me repeat, HE IS HAPPY and not angry at KKK and he knows best, which you guys agree. The reason must have satisfied Rexy - so accept it. To lambast someone without understanding the situation is like judging someone guilty without the knowing truth.

It looks like every time he does something, the lynch mob is out for him whether it is an accident or not. If a fan can be so fickle, then he does not need you fans I am sure.

with the OG just around the corner, rexy is a very busy man. He is strategizing, supervise training, observing players in SO, IO and TO, plus who knows what, it is only common sense and as a subordinate duty that KKK and/or his physican update kkk's recovery progress. How hard is it to give rexy a call from your couch watching tv??
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...maybe it's the other way around; that is, KKK expected Rexy to call or even stop by his house and ask how is he doing??.. :confused:
Think about it - you guys don't have the full story and you go on like you know everything.

Rexy IS HAPPY with the situation - he did not BLOW UP like last time with KKK. Let me repeat, HE IS HAPPY and not angry at KKK and he knows best, which you guys agree. The reason must have satisfied Rexy - so accept it. To lambast someone without understanding the situation is like judging someone guilty without the knowing truth.
...
..this scenario reminds me a lot of what our LazyBuddy often brought up; a crime scene, with police in the mixed and a trial underway...One of those "A person is innocent until he's proven guilty" clichés .. ;)

...maybe it's the other way around; that is, KKK expected Rexy to call or even stop by his house and ask how is he doing??.. :confused:

..this scenario reminds me a lot of what our LazyBuddy often brought up; a crime scene, with police in the mixed and a trial underway...One of those "A person is innocent until he's proven guilty" clichés .. ;)

Yes, and poor KKK, after suffering a setback with training and feeling bad himself, gets a loadful from a group of fans who has nothing better than to add further salt to his wounds. If I were him, I would be highly disappointed and would say to these lousy fans "MALAYSIA BOLEH" !

It is just a small matter,why make it a big issue?KKK is back in training now.Rexy he himself must has satisfied with the reason given and is happy with the situation,that's enough.There are more important task and hard work for them to accomplish.Lets Rexy and the boys to concentrate on their preparation ahead of the OG.

Think about it - you guys don't have the full story and you go on like you know everything.

Rexy IS HAPPY with the situation - he did not BLOW UP like last time with KKK. Let me repeat, HE IS HAPPY and not angry at KKK and he knows best, which you guys agree. The reason must have satisfied Rexy - so accept it. To lambast someone without understanding the situation is like judging someone guilty without the knowing truth.

It looks like every time he does something, the lynch mob is out for him whether it is an accident or not. If a fan can be so fickle, then he does not need you fans I am sure.

Seems that u know the true picture behind the story.

Let me tell u 1 thing, KKK will delighted to hv fanz like you. Always Full support without prejudice.This, is what they called, Fanatics.:D

It is just a small matter,why make it a big issue?KKK is back in training now.Rexy he himself must has satisfied with the reason given and is happy with the situation,that's enough.There are more important task and hard work for them to accomplish.Lets Rexy and the boys to concentrate on their preparation ahead of the OG.

Pay no respect to your superior, according to you it is a small matter.

OLYMPIC BOLEH!!

Yes, and poor KKK, after suffering a setback with training and feeling bad himself, gets a loadful from a group of fans who has nothing better than to add further salt to his wounds. If I were him, I would be highly disappointed and would say to these lousy fans "MALAYSIA BOLEH" !

This for sure not refering X ball.:D:D

cause the press comes and ask KKK............;)
The press are KKK's boss now. :p

For any organisation, I thought it was common practice to inform your immediate superior of any sick leave or sick leave changes.

Obviously I thought wrong.... Who am I to judge anyway?:eek:

The other points has already been discussed, just eagle's 1 cent....

1st article : KKK did tell Rexy he needs another 2 more days, Rexy said so. But of course Rexy was not happy with the extra 2 days. The Star puts it as already 3 weeks but it's actually only been 2 weeks. Last week's intv KKK relieved able to heal fast.

Rewind to earlier, one week after accident happened, Rexy said it would be 10 days bf KKK could resume training on court. At the time, eagle counted & thought 'stime in the middle of the next week'. Cos eagle counted from the time the stitches on arm were removed i.e. last Mon. If counted from the time stitches on thigh were removed, would be less 2 days.

Was there mis-communication ? - the doc/physical trainer told them 10 days & they just said to each other : 'see you in 10 days' without clarifying the date.
Doesnt the physical trainer also give a report directly to the coaches abt the condition of the players ?? From earlier interviews, it seems they do.

But I wouldnt read too much into Rexy's press statement though. He often say say, then cool down or say sthing else.

with the OG just around the corner, rexy is a very busy man. He is strategizing, supervise training, observing players in SO, IO and TO, plus who knows what, it is only common sense and as a subordinate duty that KKK and/or his physican update kkk's recovery progress. How hard is it to give rexy a call from your couch watching tv??

One way for kkk to eliminate the so called 'miscommunicatoin' is to show up at the team practice. This way, rexy will get first hand update on kkk situation. Even if kkk can't serve, he can still discuss tactics and strategy planning for each opposing MD pairs that he might meet. It would boost morale of his partner tbh too if kkk is presence.

You're absolutely right about this. I totally agree with you.

Can anyone tell me how much Rexy gets paid to be a MD head coach in Malaysia? I was thinking to talk to my channels if it's possible to offer him a deal to coach our US Badminton Team. We know that we're not as glorified as MAS Team, but we're "DRAMA FREE". Rexy won't be under pressure to win Olympic or getting headaches from misbehaved players. He will mainly focus to train and improve our players so they can compete better in international level. If he works together with Tony G and Halim H, they will make a good coaching team. In a few years ahead, we hopefully will be able to compete the great badminton nations like MAS, CHN, INA, and DEN.

Plus, I think Rexy will be happy here in California; unlike in MAS or ENG. I can guaratee him that his family will not get any racial offense; we have people from all over the world and from different cultural backgrounds living in California.

He is a professional badminton player. He should inform to his superior, that is Rexy. He didnt. And he apologised for the things. And Rexy accept it happily.

Apology? Means that you can simply made mistakes ?
If a mistake is made unintentionally and it cannot be corrected, it is best to keep it simple and just apologise.KKK did that and Rexy was happy with that simple gesture;it meant KKK wasn't aware that Rexy was upset and promptly made up once he knew about it.
What would you have done if you had made a mistake like KKK?If you don't apologise, what would you do?
It looked like there was a misunderstanding:
1.Rexy expected KKK to turn up for training on Monday.
2.The physical trainer gave KKK the go ahead to start training on Wed.
3.Rexy read KKK's no show on Monday as lack of commitment.
4.KKK thought Rexy knew (from trainer or doctor?) since Rexy knew when the stitches were removed so he should know from the same source when he could resume training?
5.KKK did not realise that Rexy's just expecting him to start training on his serve and not the whole works? Silly boy!(But it does suggest KKK has been 'trained' on Rexy's high expectations.)
6.KKK's rather concerned his right hand's not moving like before and worried about how he's going to cope with that?
7.Why didn't Rexy just ask KKK what's holding him back instead of assuming the worst of him?
8.KKK was quick to make amends with Rexy and Rexy was happy to accept that.
9.Why are fans nitpicking or imagining otherwise?

As I understand it from the Press, he apologised soon as he realised that Rexy was not informed and was unhappy. Rexy has been quoted as being happy with the apology.

Why make such as big thing out of a small thing ? And the bad thing is it paints him like he purposely refuse training. Furthermore, the ridiculous and unsavory part is that people are trying to make him look like an idiot by incurring the accident. Some of you are so shallow.

If he did not realise his head coach would not be happy that he doesn't know where he is 7 weeks before the biggest event in his career so far then he really needs his head seeing to?:confused:

The press are echoing (albeit slightly distortedly) the truth, and the people echo both the truth and their own opinion. You cannot sto people having opinions.

The basic rule "there is no smoke without fire" stands. It is clear that rexy has a problm with him, he has a problem with rexy, and they both are using the press to air their thought and grievances.

Looking on the bright side it gives people more job oppurtunity as press officers, PR hangers one, mediators etc..:D

If he did not realise his head coach would not be happy that he doesn't know where he is 7 weeks before the biggest event in his career so far then he really needs his head seeing to?:confused:

The press are echoing (albeit slightly distortedly) the truth, and the people echo both the truth and their own opinion. You cannot sto people having opinions.

The basic rule "there is no smoke without fire" stands. It is clear that rexy has a problm with him, he has a problem with rexy, and they both are using the press to air their thought and grievances.

Looking on the bright side it gives people more job oppurtunity as press officers, PR hangers one, mediators etc..:D

Opinions are fine but if opinions are wrong, then that is where you get people like me trying to correct misconceptions.

Can anyone tell me how much Rexy gets paid to be a MD head coach in Malaysia? I was thinking to talk to my channels if it's possible to offer him a deal to coach our US Badminton Team. We know that we're not as glorified as MAS Team, but we're "DRAMA FREE". Rexy won't be under pressure to win Olympic or getting headaches from misbehaved players. He will mainly focus to train and improve our players so they can compete better in international level. If he works together with Tony G and Halim H, they will make a good coaching team. In a few years ahead, we hopefully will be able to compete the great badminton nations like MAS, CHN, INA, and DEN.

Plus, I think Rexy will be happy here in California; unlike in MAS or ENG. I can guaratee him that his family will not get any racial offense; we have people from all over the world and from different cultural backgrounds living in California.

He got paid a lot...but honestly Rexy loves US but our kids are not discipline anyway...there is no way our Kids will get up before 6 am and be there around that time.
Actually KLRC offered him more money than BAM but he opted for BAM...
hint....Rexy may come to USA for holiday after Olympics...

The other points has already been discussed, just eagle's 1 cent....

1st article : KKK did tell Rexy he needs another 2 more days, Rexy said so. But of course Rexy was not happy with the extra 2 days. The Star puts it as already 3 weeks but it's actually only been 2 weeks. Last week's intv KKK relieved able to heal fast.

Rewind to earlier, one week after accident happened, Rexy said it would be 10 days bf KKK could resume training on court. At the time, eagle counted & thought 'stime in the middle of the next week'. Cos eagle counted from the time the stitches on arm were removed i.e. last Mon. If counted from the time stitches on thigh were removed, would be less 2 days.

Was there mis-communication ? - the doc/physical trainer told them 10 days & they just said to each other : 'see you in 10 days' without clarifying the date.
Doesnt the physical trainer also give a report directly to the coaches abt the condition of the players ?? From earlier interviews, it seems they do.

But I wouldnt read too much into Rexy's press statement though. He often say say, then cool down or say sthing else.

in my business...10 days means 10 working days...weeekend is not counted so it is 2 weeks indeed...KKK thought Rexy is a business man....:D:D

in my business...10 days means 10 working days...weeekend is not counted so it is 2 weeks indeed...KKK thought Rexy is a business man....:D:D


You should teach Rexy some biz terms.:D

If a mistake is made unintentionally and it cannot be corrected, it is best to keep it simple and just apologise.KKK did that and Rexy was happy with that simple gesture;it meant KKK wasn't aware that Rexy was upset and promptly made up once he knew about it.
What would you have done if you had made a mistake like KKK?If you don't apologise, what would you do?
It looked like there was a misunderstanding:
1.Rexy expected KKK to turn up for training on Monday.
2.The physical trainer gave KKK the go ahead to start training on Wed.
3.Rexy read KKK's no show on Monday as lack of commitment.
4.KKK thought Rexy knew (from trainer or doctor?) since Rexy knew when the stitches were removed so he should know from the same source when he could resume training?
5.KKK did not realise that Rexy's just expecting him to start training on his serve and not the whole works? Silly boy!(But it does suggest KKK has been 'trained' on Rexy's high expectations.)
6.KKK's rather concerned his right hand's not moving like before and worried about how he's going to cope with that?
7.Why didn't Rexy just ask KKK what's holding him back instead of assuming the worst of him?
8.KKK was quick to make amends with Rexy and Rexy was happy to accept that.
9.Why are fans nitpicking or imagining otherwise?

Intentionally or unintentionally we dont know, ask KKK.

My point is not who should inform Rexy and when KKK is going back to training.

KKK injured on his hand only and not the whole body. He still can walk,talk even dance.What's wrong for him to come to the court?

No need to apologise if KKK and his fanz think that KKK is not wrong in this case. Ask the Physical Trainer to Apologise to Rexy.


ARROGANT PLAYER WONT GO FAR.

Intentionally or unintentionally we dont know, ask KKK.

My point is not who should inform Rexy and when KKK is going back to training.

KKK injured on his hand only and not the whole body. He still can walk,talk even dance.What's wrong for him to come to the court?

No need to apologise if KKK and his fanz think that KKK is not wrong in this case. Ask the Physical Trainer to Apologise to Rexy.


ARROGANT PLAYER WONT GO FAR.


Why waste petrol to get to court if you cannot play? It is not as if he misses the court - he is there practically every day. How do you know he is not using his time cleverly to review his past tournaments on videos ? Where is he arrogant if he apologised to the coach ? If he is arrogant, would Rexy have forgiven him ? Did we not say (and reported in the Press) that Rexy is happy with the situation?

Making up stubborn comments won't go far !:D:D

Can anyone tell me how much Rexy gets paid to be a MD head coach in Malaysia? I was thinking to talk to my channels if it's possible to offer him a deal to coach our US Badminton Team. We know that we're not as glorified as MAS Team, but we're "DRAMA FREE". Rexy won't be under pressure to win Olympic or getting headaches from misbehaved players. He will mainly focus to train and improve our players so they can compete better in international level. If he works together with Tony G and Halim H, they will make a good coaching team. In a few years ahead, we hopefully will be able to compete the great badminton nations like MAS, CHN, INA, and DEN.

Plus, I think Rexy will be happy here in California; unlike in MAS or ENG. I can guaratee him that his family will not get any racial offense; we have people from all over the world and from different cultural backgrounds living in California.

No no no no.... not fair for the US to hog all the INA's MD talent. :D

in my business...10 days means 10 working days...weeekend is not counted so it is 2 weeks indeed...KKK thought Rexy is a business man....:D:D

2 weeks ??? huh??. You mean the injury, ok, ok, should be 18 days I think. THe press reported the incident a bit later so no sure which day it happened.

Weekend?? Weekend got count mah. Since KKK need to use arm to swing, at the time, I automatically counted the arm one. Last Mon the 16th till this Wed the 25th= 10 days. Friday the 13th to 23 = 10 days :D:D:p

Why waste petrol to get to court if you cannot play? It is not as if he misses the court - he is there practically every day. How do you know he is not using his time cleverly to review his past tournaments on videos ? Where is he arrogant if he apologised to the coach ? If he is arrogant, would Rexy have forgiven him ? Did we not say (and reported in the Press) that Rexy is happy with the situation?

Making up stubborn comments won't go far !:D:D

Maybe u r correct. KKK also correct. Only Rexy and Dato Asbullah is wrong.:D:D

My comments is stubborn, yours is constructive and positive.:D

X Ball BOLEH!
KKK BOLEH!
MALAYSIA BOLEH!

X Ball BOLEH!
KKK BOLEH!
MALAYSIA BOLEH!

How about jimbo :crying::mad::p

eating pamelo lah... or those seedless guava...:D:D:D addicted. so cannot train.
:D
..maybe KKK is in Vienna, watching the Euro Cup??...Coincidence also our Pemuda will be traveling overseas to Vienna??.. :rolleyes: ;)

Maybe u r correct. KKK also correct. Only Rexy and Dato Asbullah is wrong.:D:D

My comments is stubborn, yours is constructive and positive.:D

X Ball BOLEH!
KKK BOLEH!
MALAYSIA BOLEH!


Dato Asbullah Tak Boleh !:D

eating pamelo lah... or those seedless guava...:D:D:D addicted. so cannot train.
:D
haiya, extreme power..he eating tomato at home la..:D:p
tomato will givemore energy and potassium :):):p

Pay no respect to your superior, according to you it is a small matter.

OLYMPIC BOLEH!!

ONLY DATO TAK BOLEH...Pay no respect to Rexy?KKK did apologize and Rexy has accepted,that's it.That's what I meant small matter.Read carefully my statement.

ONLY DATO TAK BOLEH...Pay no respect to Rexy?KKK did apologize and Rexy has accepted,that's it.That's what I meant small matter.Read carefully my statement.
of course rexy accepted his apology, rexy has accepted many kkk's past slip up already, what's one more:confused: No use now to teach kkk some respect and mannerism, it would only hurt his tender feeling and weaken his mental concentration 1.5 months before the biggest test of their career to start. If this happened with 1 year before the OG, Fuzzy would be in and kkk/tbn is the 2nd MD team. If the uncles were not injured, i would even say kkk/tbn would be the 3rd MD team.

kkk is lucky that rexy isn't like LYB or else he's out the door long ago.
Small matter my...bum:p

ONLY DATO TAK BOLEH...Pay no respect to Rexy?KKK did apologize and Rexy has accepted,that's it.That's what I meant small matter.Read carefully my statement.

With mentality like you, it's a waste of time reading your statement.

Dato Asbullah Tak Boleh !:D

It's up to you to make such statement. Personal negative attack rather than reply and debating on the subject/thread.

I pay my respect on those older Bcers but seems that some of them are as same as some of the newbie...... :(:(

Such a big dissapointment of X Ball who had good reputation (i guess only:D)....

of course rexy accepted his apology, rexy has accepted many kkk's past slip up already, what's one more:confused: No use now to teach kkk some respect and mannerism, it would only hurt his tender feeling and weaken his mental concentration 1.5 months before the biggest test of their career to start. If this happened with 1 year before the OG, Fuzzy would be in and kkk/tbn is the 2nd MD team. If the uncles were not injured, i would even say kkk/tbn would be the 3rd MD team.

kkk is lucky that rexy isn't like LYB or else he's out the door long ago.
Small matter my...bum:p

Many or some of the Bcers still cant get what we discussed in this thread.

Some of them said it's a small matter, and some said doesnt matter.:(

What is Commitment? What is Discipline? What is Professional?

People accept your apologise didnt mean that what you did it's right, or a small matter.

If do not appreciate the chance given, please pass to others that are hunger for succeed.

It's up to you to make such statement. Personal negative attack rather than reply and debating on the subject/thread.

I pay my respect on those older Bcers but seems that some of them are as same as some of the newbie...... :(:(

Such a big dissapointment of X Ball who had good reputation (i guess only:D)....


I am no Dato !:D No need to give me such respect - I debate but if you don't listen what can I do?:D

Opinions are fine but if opinions are wrong, then that is where you get people like me trying to correct misconceptions.

That is your opinion!:D:D

That is your opinion!:D:D

And what a good opinion !:D

It's up to you to make such statement. Personal negative attack rather than reply and debating on the subject/thread.

I pay my respect on those older Bcers but seems that some of them are as same as some of the newbie...... :(:(

Such a big dissapointment of X Ball who had good reputation (i guess only:D)....

he attacked u in malayian because in english, mods can't read it and discipline him. That's his trait anyway, he does that when he's doesn't have any points to make. Erhm, reputation? i think u have overrated him at the start.

Rexy is losing his grip on MAS players, KKK needs a whip on his

Mods, I think Cooler is questioning your ability to judge ad adjudicate - seems like he thinks I have a hold on you.

And Cooler, I don't need to put my points against you because you don't listen anyway.

I am no Dato !:D No need to give me such respect - I debate but if you don't listen what can I do?:D

What to do, different ppl different point of view. One is defending, and another one is attacking:D:D

But this is fun in forum. Otherwise, it will be bored and dull...:D:D

What to do, different ppl different point of view. One is defending, and another one is attacking:D:D

But this is fun in forum. Otherwise, it will be bored and dull...:D:D

Good man, Dato.:D

With mentality like you, it's a waste of time reading your statement.

Don't say like that wasting time, you will be bored to dead if you don't read my statement here.:D

Seems that so many thread about KKK. Sometimes gets bored.....

I don't see you & the rest get bored. I think some ppl get bored when there's no topic to criticise the players. :rolleyes:

Obviously, something is missing here ==> RESPECT :rolleyes:

Talk about respect. I think some ppl are being irrespectful by making some 'make-fun' remark.:rolleyes:

HINT: Subject matter is drifting off topic. Are people getting bored?

I don't see you & the rest get bored. I think some ppl get bored when there's no topic to criticise the players. :rolleyes:no topic? getting bored? too many threads on kkk? i hardly think so. He's seeking celebrity status and he's getting it. If the MAL media is reporting kkk where about and his progress, he is hardly a boring figure. If someone didnt call him or kkk didnt catch the sport news about his absence from practice on his couch, he would still think he's on holiday:p

I don't see you & the rest get bored. I think some ppl get bored when there's no topic to criticise the players. :rolleyes:

KKK is a celebrity rather than a player. For reference, refer David Beckham.

And there is too much of topics disscussing him this and that. Maybe the next new thread would be:-

- KKK WIN THE GOLD IN THE DANCING COMPETITION
- KKK & TBH FIGHT IN THE TOILET
- KKK & HIS GIRLFRIENDS
- KKK VS. REXY

Blah blah blah......

KKK is a celebrity rather than a player. For reference, refer David Beckham.

And there is too much of topics disscussing him this and that. Maybe the next new thread would be:-

- KKK WIN THE GOLD IN THE DANCING COMPETITION
- KKK & TBH FIGHT IN THE TOILET
- KKK & HIS GIRLFRIENDS
- KKK VS. REXY

Blah blah blah......LOL, talking about kkk will never be boring;)

If KKK does horribly at the Olympics, let us await the scathing attacks on this big-time celebrity wannabe by Rexy ;).

If KKK does horribly at the Olympics, let us await the scathing attacks on this big-time celebrity wannabe by Rexy ;).kkk got a valid reason, his injured hand wasn't 100% healed.:D

kkk got a valid reason, his injured hand wasn't 100% healed.:D
If I were KKK, I would tell Rexy that I need to go to Shaolin Temple to heal my hand..who knows my hand will be more powerful....:p

If I were KKK, I would tell Rexy that I need to go to Shaolin Temple to heal my hand..who knows my hand will be more powerful....:pi heard the temple is fully booked until end of August:p

i heard the temple is fully booked until end of August:p
:D:D:D......then go to " Kai Pang"...:p

kkk got a valid reason, his injured hand wasn't 100% healed.:D

No need reason one. Just like HH. Got special status:D:D:D

i heard the temple is fully booked until end of August:p

If all else fails, he can hit the latest disco to get his ego massaged ;)

Take flight to Guangzhou, the place suit him more with the fancy night life....

LOL, talking about kkk will never be boring;)

Correct lo. That is why i said some ppl will alwayz find something to criticise kkk. even he got injured by glass door accidentally also being criticised. no offense but honestly i think that is biased lo.

Correct lo. That is why i said some ppl will alwayz find something to criticise kkk. even he got injured by glass door accidentally also being criticised. no offense but honestly i think that is biased lo.

Err... that has already been debated for 6 pages in the other thread, they will say2 & critise anyway . Until they encounter some accident & experience other ppl say2 the same thing abt them, then only they will know ;);).

Correct lo. That is why i said some ppl will alwayz find something to criticise kkk. even he got injured by glass door accidentally also being criticised. no offense but honestly i think that is biased lo.

He made himself to be the target for other people to criticise on him.

He made himself to be the target for other people to criticise on him.

not interested to argue anymore. tq.

not interested to argue anymore. tq.

You hv no point to defend him thats why u quit.:D:D

He has no point to be defended:D:D

Take flight to Guangzhou, the place suit him more with the fancy night life....

if KKK calls me up, i'll bring him to ChanPing (men's heaven)... he sure cant play coz his legs get wobbly after nite of... "b*dminton" :eek::D

if KKK calls me up, i'll bring him to ChanPing (men's heaven)... he sure cant play coz his legs get wobbly after nite of... "b*dminton" :eek::D
:eek::eek::eek:
you guys are terrible.............
:p:D:p:D

Correct lo. That is why i said some ppl will alwayz find something to criticise kkk. even he got injured by glass door accidentally also being criticised. no offense but honestly i think that is biased lo.it seem that u haven't read pemuda's posts yet:p

if KKK calls me up, i'll bring him to ChanPing (men's heaven)... he sure cant play coz his legs get wobbly after nite of... "b*dminton" :eek::Dcould u show me around that place too if i come visit MAL?:D

Where is chanping huh?

Correct lo. That is why i said some ppl will alwayz find something to criticise kkk. even he got injured by glass door accidentally also being criticised. no offense but honestly i think that is biased lo.

Err... that has already been debated for 6 pages in the other thread, they will say2 & critise anyway . Until they encounter some accident & experience other ppl say2 the same thing abt them, then only they will know ;);).

He made himself to be the target for other people to criticise on him.
Dato, please make yourself clear, as others may mis-understand again.....
if Dato or me do that kind of incident, i dont think many will even bother.
as a popular guy, famous guy, one needs to be taking care of his/her image in public. if done good, get praise. if you did something wrong, not nice..... you will be criticize. it is not us purposely to find anything to criticize anybody.
:)

Tuesday June 24, 2008
Badminton: Coach Rexy unhappy with Kien Keat’s no-show
By RAJES PAUL
KUALA LUMPUR: One doubles player overcame stomach cramps and knee pains to win at the Indonesian Open. Another has yet to show up for training since a freak accident.

And the different level of commitment showed by Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari and Koo Kien Keat over the last one week has drawn mixed reactions from national doubles chief coach Rexy Mainaky.

He has praises for Fairuzizuan, who together with Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif beat the formidable American-Indonesian combination of Candra Wijaya-Tony Gunawan to win the Indonesian Open title last Sunday.

A week earlier in Singapore, Fairuzizuan-Zakry won their first international Open title.

“Fairuzizuan did not give up even though he was not in the best condition. He gave a determined performance and the right attitude helped him win the title,” said Rexy.

The Indonesian attributed the rise of Fairuzizuan and Zakry as a world-beating combination with back-to-back titles to the better commitment of the former.

“It would have been nice if they had been doing this (playing well) since the start of the Olympic qualifying period (May last year). Then Zakry was more focused on the tasks. But now, Fairuzizuan is showing the same desire to excel,” said Rexy.

“They may have missed the boat to the Olympics but they are now the right candidates to replace (Choong) Tan Fook-(Lee) Wan Wah after the Beijing Games. They will prepare for the World Championships (in India) next year.”

Rexy said that he wanted the Olympic-bound doubles players, especially Kien Keat, to be inspired with the recent performances of Zakry-Fairuzizuan.

He was disappointed yesterday that Kien Keat’s return to court for training with his partner, Tan Boon Heong, was delayed again. Kien Keat had been undergoing rehabilitation programme for three weeks since injuring himself in Bukit Jalil when he broke the glass pane that he was leaning on.

“He was supposed to report for training today. All the stitches had been removed but he said he needs two more days. What is he waiting for? Does he want to join training in August?” said Rexy.

The team for the Olympics are scheduled to leave for Beijing on Aug 5.

“I am not expecting him to resume gruelling training immediately. It would be nice if he had come and practised on his serve and slowly get into training mode rhythm.

“It is that little extra and the ability to handle hardship that I hope to see in the players, especially those preparing for the Olympics.”

Meanwhile, Rexy confirmed that Zakry-Fairuzizuan will skip the Thailand Open, which begins tomorrow in Bangkok.





Where are you? Olympic-bound Koo Kien Keat has yet to report for training under national coach Rexy Mainaky.:confused:keep up the good work bro. dont be too lazy

Dato, please make yourself clear, as others may mis-understand again.....
... if you did something wrong, not nice..... you will be criticize. it is not us purposely to find anything to criticize anybody.
:)

Seems there's misunderstanding here too.:p
The reply to Xenoy009 was refering to the glass accident, people 'critizing' KKK abt it in the other thread. I'm sure you didnt mean getting cut by glass as "did sthing wrong, not nice."
Oh yeah, that reply also wasnt refering to you, drift nice person wan, he he.

That's why Xenoy called it 'accident'..... perhaps you havent read that thread.;) I'm sure at least your family & friends would bother if you "encounter some accident" & there will people who 'say2 & critize' - "Why never take precaution?", "Why so careless?",etc

Anyway....back to this thread. Like what Jamesd20 said, it's news article, open to interpretation, depends on how one interprets it after taking into account earlier articles on the topic. Stimes info comes out different in different press.:D

Seems there's misunderstanding here too.:p
The reply to Xenoy009 was refering to the glass accident, people 'critizing' KKK abt it in the other thread. I'm sure you didnt mean getting cut by glass as "did sthing wrong, not nice."
Oh yeah, that reply also wasnt refering to you, drift nice person wan, he he.

That's why Xenoy called it 'accident'..... perhaps you havent read that thread.;) I'm sure at least your family & friends would bother if you "encounter some accident" & there will people who 'say2 & critize' - "Why never take precaution?", "Why so careless?",etc

Anyway....back to this thread. Like what Jamesd20 said, it's news article, open to interpretation, depends on how one interprets it after taking into account earlier articles on the topic. Stimes info comes out different in different press.:D

It is like someone trying to cross the road and accidently got banged by a car which is the driver's fault. Then the family member of the victim scolded him if he wanted to commit suicide.

This thread has drifted for too long, and I am pretty sure we aren't going to hear anything new.

It's apparent that, here, we're seeing an echo of the flaming in the Indonesia Open SS thread. This caution (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=909492&postcount=789) was posted in that thread:

We waited... hoping that this problem would go away.
Well, it certainly did not

Free speech doesn't imply a right to post abuse
We don't have much use for irrelevant content either.

43 posts - on issues ranging from international patents to the neurological effects of the lyssavirus - have been deleted.

Consequently, all referential posts too have been deleted.
That includes the Caution notice posted a few minutes ago.

Please be warned that rudeness is the easiest route to a ban.
For the moment, let's all hope that better sense will prevail.

For a guide to dignified online behaviour, read abedeng's posts.

Here too, inflammatory (and referenced) posts have been deleted.
Also, d65up2 has earned a temporary ban.

Evidently, some provocation is on display as well.
Please be warned: it doesn't pay to provoke others :(

Evidently, some provocation is on display as well.
Please be warned: it doesn't pay to provoke others :(

Definitely can't get past an old 'kaki' like you.:D

KKK/TBH , from gold to a medal of any colour.

KKK/TBH , from gold to a medal of any colour.

And pontetially empty-handed:D:D

And pontetially empty-handed:D:D
medal of honour.........
recalling, i did dear a sarcastic joke; the country spent so much money in sports and into Olympic as well. at the end, we dont even can get a steel medal. other countries that have less expenditure, did get gold or silver or bronze.......:confused:
No, they wont come back empty handed. They will have a good time shopping in Beijing.
now, can every badminton fans in MAS get souvenir from them....:p:D:p:D

medal of honour.........
recalling, i did dear a sarcastic joke; the country spent so much money in sports and into Olympic as well. at the end, we dont even can get a steel medal. other countries that have less expenditure, did get gold or silver or bronze.......:confused:


I believe when Paul Erik Hoyer Larsen won his Olympic gold medal, the Danish government did not write him a cheque for $1 million.