I hope our LCW is inspired by the win of Nadal in the most gruelling 5hrs Winbledon Final to beat the 5-times defending champion, Federer. If LCW and LD meets in the OG Final, I hope LCW will do what Nadal did...
Msia Boleh.... LCW Boleh... :D

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Rafael Nadal has won his first Wimbledon men's singles title after holding off a stunning fightback from five-times champion Roger Federer to secure a dramatic victory in an epic rain-affected five-set final.

Nadal triumphed 6-4 6-4 6-7 6-7 9-7 in fading light in the longest men's final in Wimbledon history, as the French Open champion prevented top seed Federer from becoming the first man in history to win six successive titles.
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Jimbo, you definitely BOLEH. :)

For sure, if NADAL can do it, LCW will too. I will not settle for anything less than GOLD. LCW has put in 110% training effort for this - he will not be robbed.

Yeah, Rafa's fighting spirit is so impressive to defeat five times Wimbledon champ FedEx. Looking forward to watch the dream final of two best in tennis and badminton for upcoming Beijing Games : Federer vs Nadal and Lin D vs Lee C W.

Jimbo, you definitely BOLEH. :)

For sure, if NADAL can do it, LCW will too. I will not settle for anything less than GOLD. LCW has put in 110% training effort for this - he will not be robbed.

It's OK to lose in the OG08 if LCW put up a good fighting spirit like Nadal. I really admire this Nadal, his on-court spirit reminds me of our Hero FooKokKeong. These are the people who inspire me to work harder. I hope LCW will be like Nadal...

Msia Boleh... :D

Yeah, Rafa's fighting spirit is so impressive to defeat five times Wimbledon champ FedEx. Looking forward to watch the dream final of two best in tennis and badminton for upcoming Beijing Games : Federer vs Nadal and Lin D vs Lee C W.

Month ago, I would simply rubbished off the "dream final of LD vs LCW" but after the Winbledon Final, I hope our own "wimbledon" will stage at the biggest sports event in the world. Let's hope for the wimbledon showdown and the fans will remember for the rest of their lives :)

Msia Boleh... :p

With expectations so high and the pressure so stifling, the OG badminton event is likely to be more of a Tremble-don than anything else :p

With expectations so high and the pressure so stifling, the OG badminton event is likely to be more of a Tremble-don than anything else :p

Are U suggesting that there was no pressure or expectation on the Wimbledon's dream final? ;) I believe that the real champion (like Nadal) will rise to occassions albeit all the hypes n high expectations. Let's all hope LCW will do the "Nadal"... :p:D

LCW = Nadal ???

Nadal's left arm bicep is probably bigger than LCW's head.:rolleyes: Not to mention all the major titles that Nadal has won so far... what has LCW accomplished that is even comparable to Nadal.:rolleyes::confused:

Month ago, I would simply rubbished off the "dream final of LD vs LCW" but after the Winbledon Final, I hope our own "wimbledon" will stage at the biggest sports event in the world. Let's hope for the wimbledon showdown and the fans will remember for the rest of their lives :)

Msia Boleh... :p

If we look at the events prior to this coming Olympics, it seems like we are looking at an 'even' competition with LCW having as much a chance as LD who was the ultimate player.

LCW, since his loss to Sony in the World Championship, has turned a new 'page' and seemed to have stepped up. It almost appears like he has learned from his embarassment and is keen not to be 'poked' again by his fans (especially the fickle-minded ones). We have seen him win multiple SS's since and who would say with authority that they don't fear playing him these days. Think again and try to remember whether there is any time that we have blamed him since that inauspicious loss to Sony.

LCW owes his change to continuous fitness training and guidance from his coach and mentor Misbun. Somehow, Misbun has himself a new life with this capable charge. They seemed to work like the 'ying and the yang' - each helping one another to perfect badminton. Misbun seemed to enjoy his camaderie with LCW and vice versa.

LCW is a force to reckon with today -- no two ways about this. His speed is blinding (equalling if not excelling LD's, I am sorry BAO loses out here); he has acquired the skills to read and analyse his opponents' moves now (through incessant training from Misbun, a master strategist -- most of you would have seen Misbun hard at work jotting down notes during LCW's games and passing his observations to LCW - the communication has worked).

If you look at LCW's games, it is very fluent - he is no longer rushed. His patience to play according to a strategy is his biggest forte today. His physical fitness has allowed him to do this - no longer, does he need to do trick shots which normally get him in trouble (typical trademarks of tiredness - Hafiz shows that character frequently).

With the ying and the yang flowing, it is no longer a question whether he will win - it is more of what colour (and I suspect GOLD!).

Few days ago I read an article (The Star). Our chief coach YapKH was so confident that his comrades will bring back at least ONE medal. The question is: What color? :eek::D

Yes, he told me so recently... haha... :p:D Msia Boleh...

Ferderer f'd up on this one. wouldn't compare the pair. lol. tennis players are more muscular than badminton players due to the weight of racket.

unfortunately the Olympic badminoton isnt played with traditional style, ie OSS. The combatants would finish the match with lots of energy left. Under OSS, a close match would see both players barely standing near the end.

In wimbledon MS final today, speed, power, stroke skill, and stamia were all taxed to each individual's limit. Nadal basically broke federer down at the end. Federer's last shot was a weak shot into the net.

Ferderer f'd up on this one. wouldn't compare the pair. lol. tennis players are more muscular than badminton players due to the weight of racket.no, it is the weight of the tennis ball

I hope our LCW is inspired by the win of Nadal in the most gruelling 5hrs Winbledon Final to beat the 5-times defending champion, Federer. If LCW and LD meets in the OG Final, I hope LCW will do what Nadal did...
Msia Boleh.... LCW Boleh... :D

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Rafael Nadal has won his first Wimbledon men's singles title after holding off a stunning fightback from five-times champion Roger Federer to secure a dramatic victory in an epic rain-affected five-set final.

Nadal triumphed 6-4 6-4 6-7 6-7 9-7 in fading light in the longest men's final in Wimbledon history, as the French Open champion prevented top seed Federer from becoming the first man in history to win six successive titles.
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Am not pouring cold water on your parade but sorry, dude, LCW is no Nadal. Infact LCW is nowhere near Rafael Nadal. The man has 29 titles to his name todate and he is only 22. Won 4 French Open titles 4 years in the row.

Yes, yes LCW can use Nadal's victory as an inspiration, however I am afraid LCW do not have the mental strength, determination nor the maturity of Nadal to overcome adversity.

The Olympic game is a big tournament and LCW, I am sorry will breakdown when the going gets tough.

For those who think LCW is no Nadal, you are right. LCW will beat the hell out of Nadal on a badminton court. haha ... small joke

Actually, Federer was very impressive also. To have an epic final, you need two epic players.

Actually, Federer was very impressive also. To have an epic final, you need two epic players.

How about this? OG FINAL match:
LinDan lost to LCW: 19-21, 24-22, 28-30 :eek::p:D

no, it is the weight of the tennis ball
you also a tennis player....? :D

We are now (mas supporters, especially LCW's) strongly believe that LCW will make it to final of OG. So do LD's.

Please dont forget others player.

We are now (mas supporters, especially LCW's) strongly believe that LCW will make it to final of OG. So do LD's.

Please dont forget others player.

Dont worry, i still remember Wacha... :eek::D

We are now (mas supporters, especially LCW's) strongly believe that LCW will make it to final of OG. So do LD's.

Please dont forget others player.

Go Boonsak!!! :D

How about this? OG FINAL match:
LinDan lost to LCW: 19-21, 24-22, 28-30 :eek::p:D
29-30 or 30-29 is more exciting:p
at 29-29, next point win.

This match was an instant classic of all time (tennis wise).
Both champions had to keep their intensity throughout 5 hours! Its all mental battle, both keep fighting and none gave up, but Nadal was just tougher. Our players should really watch this match, to learn what is mental toughness all about.

For those who think LCW is no Nadal, you are right. LCW will beat the hell out of Nadal on a badminton court. haha ... small joke


Top man - good one. LCW will make Nadal look slow on the baddie court.:D

wow..This is really a classical match in tennis..Almost five hours in play Nadal beat Federer.Well,i really do admirer Rafael Nadal a lot.I always like his fighting spirit on court and his never say die attitude.For Roger Federer,he is already a legend in tennis by winning five straight Wimbledon Champion so he is also a great great player.Finally,hope LCW can did what Nadal this yesterday by crowning the Olympic Champion.

This match was an instant classic of all time (tennis wise).
Both champions had to keep their intensity throughout 5 hours! Its all mental battle, both keep fighting and none gave up, but Nadal was just tougher. Our players should really watch this match, to learn what is mental toughness all about.

Lets hope someone will playback this great match for LCW to watch. To stay at the highest mental and fitness for 5-hrs... gosh... that's like asking NOT to play baddie for a week... haha :eek::D tough manz...

no, it is the weight of the tennis ball

yes and racket as well, to take the impact.

We certainly needs more than just 5 threads to analysis why LCW should beat LD with the most legit reasons.

I personally think LCW will win OG because he Looked like the Coming Winner while his opponent Looked Dumb. Now to mention the movie "couched tiger and hidden dragon" puts tiger before dragon. Now where is the new thread button??? :rolleyes:

yes and racket as well, to take the impact.it's the ball:rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqNKGh2ONEA

We certainly needs more than just 5 threads to analysis why LCW should beat LD with the most legit reasons.

I personally think LCW will win OG because he Looked like the Coming Winner while his opponent Looked Dumb. Now to mention the movie "couched tiger and hidden dragon" puts tiger before dragon. Now where is the new thread button??? :rolleyes:


LCW looks like the coming winner ? Really ?

And LD looks dumb. Really ?

I'm afraid this high expectations of LCW is not doing him any good. Despite the improvements, both physical and mental, he made most recently, he is still human and can succumb to the pressures of high expectations and tough competition, especially against a China player with robust home support. :rolleyes:

Do remember that there are a handful of players out there who can surprise both LD and LCW as Ronald did to LD during the last Athens Olympics. There may also be some top class players who have made tremendous improvement but did not display themselves recently. They are quietly preparing for the Olympic assault.

Watch out LD and LCW! :eek:

I'm afraid this high expectations of LCW is not doing him any good. Despite the improvements, both physical and mental, he made most recently, he is still human and can succumb to the pressures of high expectations and tough competition, especially against a China player with robust home support. :rolleyes:

Do remember that there are a handful of players out there who can surprise both LD and LCW as Ronald did to LD during the last Athens Olympics. There may also be some top class players who have made tremendous improvement but did not display themselves recently. They are quietly preparing for the Olympic assault.

Watch out LD and LCW! :eek:

Well I would be in agreement with what you have said above if LCW was not in such awesome form (super duper fit). There is something you cannot change - he is in awesome form.

If other players can be in similar or better form, then yes but I doubt anyone can be fitter than this guy - his heart beat must be below 50 a this point. Look at his thigh muscles and you can tell he has been doing a lot of squats and skippings. He is not only ready to spring but he will pounce on his oppositions - I mean if I were LD, I would be certain LCW will not be giving in to him in any contest.

It will be tough for anyone against LCW - no one would take him for granted. He has timed his Olympics to purrrrrrrfection.

I'm afraid this high expectations of LCW is not doing him any good. Despite the improvements, both physical and mental, he made most recently, he is still human and can succumb to the pressures of high expectations and tough competition, especially against a China player with robust home support. :rolleyes:

Do remember that there are a handful of players out there who can surprise both LD and LCW as Ronald did to LD during the last Athens Olympics. There may also be some top class players who have made tremendous improvement but did not display themselves recently. They are quietly preparing for the Olympic assault.

Watch out LD and LCW! :eek:

Forget about using Nadal as an inspiration.

LCW should look at our World's Tallest Flag Pole and use that Malaysia Boleh architecture brilliance as motivation to bring that gold home.

Well I would be in agreement with what you have said above if LCW was not in such awesome form (super duper fit). There is something you cannot change - he is in awesome form.

If other players can be in similar or better form, then yes but I doubt anyone can be fitter than this guy - his heart beat must be below 50 a this point. Look at his thigh muscles and you can tell he has been doing a lot of squats and skippings. He is not only ready to spring but he will pounce on his oppositions - I mean if I were LD, I would be certain LCW will not be giving in to him in any contest.

It will be tough for anyone against LCW - no one would take him for granted. He has timed his Olympics to purrrrrrrfection.

Shall we roll out the Malaysia Boleh marching band now in anticipation of our very first Olympic gold?? :)

Shall we roll out the Malaysia Boleh marching band now in anticipation of our very first Olympic gold?? :)

By all means if you are celebrating but don't bother if you are not - we know you don't believe so why bother in replying.

Forget about using Nadal as an inspiration.

LCW should look at our World's Tallest Flag Pole and use that Malaysia Boleh architecture brilliance as motivation to bring that gold home.

brudder... what's wrong with using Nadal as an inspiration? He is a hero (if u read the newspaper on how the Spanish hails him) and definitely inspires many of us to believe the impossible. It's just beating Tiger Woods for the green jacket in the match play... wow... dat certainly feels gooooddddd.. :p

Not many ppl can beat Fedex on the grass... so does SuperDan. So we all hope someone who will do the "Nadal" and beat SuperDan at his own turf...

I dont see anything wrong with that... why would u? ;)

By all means if you are celebrating but don't bother if you are not - we know you don't believe so why bother in replying.

Ohhh ... must have touched a raw nerve. :o
Well, exxxxxcuse me then.

brudder... what's wrong with using Nadal as an inspiration? He is a hero (if u read the newspaper on how the Spanish hails him) and definitely inspires many of us to believe the impossible. It's just beating Tiger Woods for the green jacket in the match play... wow... dat certainly feels gooooddddd.. :p

Not many ppl can beat Fedex on the grass... so does SuperDan. So we all hope someone who will do the "Nadal" and beat SuperDan at his own turf...

I dont see anything wrong with that... why would u? ;)

With Pemuda, everything and anything is wrong if he did not say so. Is this your first encounter with the guy?:D

Ohhh ... must have touched a raw nerve. :o
Well, exxxxxcuse me then.

Yes yours.:D I am not sensitive like you.

brudder... what's wrong with using Nadal as an inspiration? He is a hero (if u read the newspaper on how the Spanish hails him) and definitely inspires many of us to believe the impossible. It's just beating Tiger Woods for the green jacket in the match play... wow... dat certainly feels gooooddddd.. :p

Not many ppl can beat Fedex on the grass... so does SuperDan. So we all hope someone who will do the "Nadal" and beat SuperDan at his own turf...

I dont see anything wrong with that... why would u? ;)

Dear bro,

Nothing wrong at all in using Nadal as a model. What I am saying is that we should use something closer to home in the context of our Malaysia Boleh spirit.

Dont get me wrong, I am not dishing out your opinion bout using Nadal. I respect your opinion. It is just that I find while we trumpet Malaysia Boleh, we should use our own achievements as motivation to improve/achieve. And by having constructed the World's Tallest Flag Pole, I feel LCW ought to use that as motivation to pack LD off at his own back yard.

Malaysia Boleh!

With Pemuda, everything and anything is wrong if he did not say so. Is this your first encounter with the guy?:D

hhhuuurrrlllooo.... no personal attack... hehe... :D:p

i managed to watched the few last seconds of the Final... gosh... very thrilling and Nadal really deserved the trophy :)

hhhuuurrrlllooo.... no personal attack... hehe... :D:p

i managed to watched the few last seconds of the Final... gosh... very thrilling and Nadal really deserved the trophy :)

Yes, I agree. Some people just cannot do away with the personal attack and petty insults.

And yes, Nadal deserved the win.

"National badminton chief coach Yap Kim Hock is confident that his charges will return from the Beijing Olympic Games with at least a medal."(from Star Sports, 5 July 2008
I certainly hope Malaysia will get a medal from badminton and indeed she deserves one for all the hard work and support given to the game.

But as chief coach Yap himself had said so assuredly but politely, he did not say "GOLD" medal. He only mentioned "at least a medal."

Now this is less pressuring on the coaches and players and allow them to focus on the job on hand! :)

"National badminton chief coach Yap Kim Hock is confident that his charges will return from the Beijing Olympic Games with at least a medal."(from Star Sports, 5 July 2008
I certainly hope Malaysia will get a medal from badminton and indeed she deserves one for all the hard work and support given to the game.

But as chief coach Yap himself had said so assuredly but politely, he did not say "GOLD" medal. He only mentioned "at least a medal."

Now this is less pressuring on the coaches and players and allow them to focus on the job on hand! :)

Yes, when he told me during the SO (that was before LCW thrashed Simon in the SO Final), I was shocked coz how could he felt so confident, I just didnt understand. After the SO Final, yes, i understand why he said so to me... it's exactly what he told the media... words by words... haha... :eek::p

"National badminton chief coach Yap Kim Hock is confident that his charges will return from the Beijing Olympic Games with at least a medal."(from Star Sports, 5 July 2008
I certainly hope Malaysia will get a medal from badminton and indeed she deserves one for all the hard work and support given to the game.

But as chief coach Yap himself had said so assuredly but politely, he did not say "GOLD" medal. He only mentioned "at least a medal."

Now this is less pressuring on the coaches and players and allow them to focus on the job on hand! :)

Will YKH resign if mas badminton team cannot get at least 1 medal in OG?

Better dont said anything lah if like that.

Will YKH resign if mas badminton team cannot get at least 1 medal in OG?

Better dont said anything lah if like that.

There won't be any need to resign.
His contract is expiring anyway.

If, however, a medal comes through at Beijing, he can surely look forward to bigger and better things ;)

29-30 or 30-29 is more exciting:p
at 29-29, next point win.
..if that scenario were to happen esp. in MS, myyy goodness, we'll see records broken after records for the most users ever at one time, in BC...And if it were to involve LCW & LD, my goodness have mercy, we might break the 1,000,000 post by the end of the MS Final.........:cool:;)http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/43.gif

..if that scenario were to happen esp. in MS, myyy goodness, we'll see records broken after records for the most users ever at one time, in BC...And if it were to involve LCW & LD, my goodness have mercy, we might break the 1,000,000 post by the end of the MS Final.........:cool:;)http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/43.gifi still prefer OSS for the olympic and AE. Badminton is a battle, not a race to 21.

Will YKH resign if mas badminton team cannot get at least 1 medal in OG?

Better dont said anything lah if like that.

If I told u that he WILL BE RIGHT, wat would u say? hehe... :D
Yes, a medal for sure... regardless of a medal... and the source is most likely from... Let's C Who lor... :eek::p

Yes, I agree. Some people just cannot do away with the personal attack and petty insults.

And yes, Nadal deserved the win.

A joke I am sure. Or else you must be talking about yourself.

Will YKH resign if mas badminton team cannot get at least 1 medal in OG?

Better dont said anything lah if like that.doesnt matter, BAM would hire him back anyway:p

..if that scenario were to happen esp. in MS, myyy goodness, we'll see records broken after records for the most users ever at one time, in BC...And if it were to involve LCW & LD, my goodness have mercy, we might break the 1,000,000 post by the end of the MS Final.........:cool:;)http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/43.gif

hmm...its good if we break the record in bc and lcw break the record in OG for mas

doesnt matter, BAM would hire him back anyway:p

Yes. He is Mr. Nice Guy. Where to find?:D:D:D

I quoted the chief coach's statement simply to remind that one should not be carried away and boast about getting a gold medal when the Games have not even started. He was confident of getting a medal but even he would not be so cocky as to say that Malaysia is assured of a gold. In other words, "don't count your chickens before they are hatched". It could backfire! :rolleyes:

Be modest and when the gold medal does come about, it becomes sweeter instead of being embarrassed if one gets a bronze or no medal at all! :eek::(:D

I quoted the chief coach's statement simply to remind that one should not be carried away and boast about getting a gold medal when the Games have not even started. He was confident of getting a medal but even he would not be so cocky as to say that Malaysia is assured of a gold. In other words, "don't count your chickens before they are hatched". It could backfire! :rolleyes:

Be modest and when the gold medal does come about, it becomes sweeter instead of being embarrassed if one gets a bronze or no medal at all! :eek::(:D

How do u quote Jose Mourinho? Is he cocky?

A joke I am sure. Or else you must be talking about yourself.

Like I have said earlier, some people have no other way to react other than throw petty insults when they find they cant agree with others.

Difficult to accept the reality, eh?

Like I have said earlier, some people have no other way to react other than throw petty insults when they find they cant agree with others.

Difficult to accept the reality, eh?


What reality are you talking about - the fact that you cannot accept that KKK-TBH could lose at times or the fact that LCW has outgrown your doomsday forecast for him ?

As always, your postings have no credence but to bark about demises of players or BAM. And somehow, you seem to enjoy your own insults of players but at the same time you feel it is wrong for me to insult you.:rolleyes:

So Nadel won, means LCW will win Olympic Gold...:D:D

I quoted the chief coach's statement simply to remind that one should not be carried away and boast about getting a gold medal when the Games have not even started. He was confident of getting a medal but even he would not be so cocky as to say that Malaysia is assured of a gold. In other words, "don't count your chickens before they are hatched". It could backfire! :rolleyes:

Be modest and when the gold medal does come about, it becomes sweeter instead of being embarrassed if one gets a bronze or no medal at all! :eek::(:D


'Aim high if you want to succeed' as the saying goes. It is not about counting the chickens before they are hatched.:D:eek:

'Aim high if you want to succeed' as the saying goes. It is not about counting the chickens before they are hatched.:D:eek:

I agree you need to aim high in whatever you set out to do, for then when you fall, at least it won't be right to the bottom.

You may let your closest friend or colleague know about your high goals just to make sure you'll be reminded in case you procrastinate. But it is better not to broadcast to the world (counting chickens before they're hatched) and pressure yourself lest you can't achieve it for whatever reason.

Remember freak accidents during the Olympics, like what KKK has to endure recently, or a bad stomach resulting from eating something incompatible as what madbad has suggested, will mean the end of one's Olympic hopes! Why lend yourself to undue embarrassment when you could avoid it?

What reality are you talking about - the fact that you cannot accept that KKK-TBH could lose at times or the fact that LCW has outgrown your doomsday forecast for him ?

As always, your postings have no credence but to bark about demises of players or BAM. And somehow, you seem to enjoy your own insults of players but at the same time you feel it is wrong for me to insult you.:rolleyes:

Dont confuse yourself. Please find me a quote from me that says I cannot accept KKK/TBH could lose at times?? What I cannot accept is the primma donna, big time Charlie attitude i.e. not showing up for training, showboating etc.

As for your bark about the demises of players & BAM, again tell me despite all the taxpayers RM invested into badminton every year for the best coach, facilities and rewards, what have we won todate??? Where is that WC or that Olympic gold??? Thomas Cup?? And for my criticism of BAM, the shuttlers and sports in general in M'sia, you feel you are entitled to hurl personal insults at me??? :o Well, in that case I can certainly see the level of your maturity.

... but anyway, though I disapprove of your personal & petty insults, I will defend to the death your rights to say it (in your case, if resorting to insults of personal nature is your calling, please go ahead). ;)

So Nadel won, means LCW will win Olympic Gold...:D:D

... and Spain won Euro2008, means KKK/TBH will win the MD Olympic gold as well.

Thats Malaysia Boleh fans to you!

Remember freak accidents during the Olympics, like what KKK has to endure recently, or a bad stomach resulting from eating something incompatible as what madbad has suggested, will mean the end of one's Olympic hopes! Why lend yourself to undue embarrassment when you could avoid it?

For the sake of a friendly argument (and don't take it badly please), how can it be any embarassment to me if LCW fails because it was a bad stomach or something beyond his control ? I would not feel embarassed at all nor should LCW feel embarassed - similarly, people have led me to believe that by saying KKK was not at fault with the accident, I am embarassing myself. It is not sensible.

The only embarassment is when he does not try but that embarassment would be his own, not mine. When I predict a gold for him, I am actually a fan who believes. If he fails, then am I to be blamed or be shamed. Think about it.:D

Forget about Nadal as motivation to win that gold in Beijing.

LCW should use our very own record breaker, Sivasamy s/o Balakrishnan of Panaikkulam Village, Perak as motivation. Sivasamy crushed 25 eggs in 30 seconds. He placed the egg atop the back of his wrist and bent his fingers backward to break the eggs. The feat was achieved on Sept 20, 2005 at his work place, the Restaurant Naina Mohammed in Ipoh, Perak. This great feat is listed in our Malaysia Book of Records.

Dont confuse yourself. Please find me a quote from me that says I cannot accept KKK/TBH could lose at times?? What I cannot accept is the primma donna, big time Charlie attitude i.e. not showing up for training, showboating etc.

As for your bark about the demises of players & BAM, again tell me despite all the taxpayers RM invested into badminton every year for the best coach, facilities and rewards, what have we won todate??? Where is that WC or that Olympic gold??? Thomas Cup?? And for my criticism of BAM, the shuttlers and sports in general in M'sia, you feel you are entitled to hurl personal insults at me??? :o Well, in that case I can certainly see the level of your maturity.

... but anyway, though I disapprove of your personal & petty insults, I will defend to the death your rights to say it (in your case, if resorting to insults of personal nature is your calling, please go ahead). ;)

I agree on what Pemuda said.:D

I agree you need to aim high in whatever you set out to do, for then when you fall, at least it won't be right to the bottom.

You may let your closest friend or colleague know about your high goals just to make sure you'll be reminded in case you procrastinate. But it is better not to broadcast to the world (counting chickens before they're hatched) and pressure yourself lest you can't achieve it for whatever reason.

Remember freak accidents during the Olympics, like what KKK has to endure recently, or a bad stomach resulting from eating something incompatible as what madbad has suggested, will mean the end of one's Olympic hopes! Why lend yourself to undue embarrassment when you could avoid it?

Embarrassment? Then better dont send team to OG.

Imagine if all mas players lost in their 1st game, do u count this as an embarrassment for YKH? Although he didnt make any statements...

An embarrassment is that when u know your players cant win any medals in OG, but still want to send them there.:D:D

How about this? OG FINAL match:
LinDan lost to LCW: 19-21, 24-22, 28-30 :eek::p:D
jimbo...........ur imagination tooooooooooo high:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Alternatively, our Msian shuttlers can also use the following as motivation to win that first gold in Beijing;

LONGEST HULA HOOPING: Nine-year old Ashwita Ramesh Nair surpassed her previous record for the longest hula hooping for a total of two hours, 12 minutes and 17.4 seconds nonstop. The feat was achieved on Oct. 15, 2005.

To all my fellow Malaysians,

We, as a nation have achieved great things together. We have made the world's biggest popiah, pizza & roti canai. We have took a taxi to space and conducted an experiment there - you can make teh tarik indeed in space! We have the World's Tallest Flagpole. We have the World Tallest Pencil. We have done the longest hula hooping.

Lets bring home the gold from Beijing.

Malaysia Boleh!

For the sake of a friendly argument (and don't take it badly please), how can it be any embarassment to me if LCW fails because it was a bad stomach or something beyond his control ? I would not feel embarassed at all nor should LCW feel embarassed - similarly, people have led me to believe that by saying KKK was not at fault with the accident, I am embarassing myself. It is not sensible.

The only embarassment is when he does not try but that embarassment would be his own, not mine. When I predict a gold for him, I am actually a fan who believes. If he fails, then am I to be blamed or be shamed. Think about it.:D

Well it can simply be an embarrassment because when a fan utters emphatically to all that his "hero" will win the Olympic gold and it turned out that he couldn't, albeit for a valid reason, people will laugh at him for making a fool of himself. Why should the fan make such a statement without due regard to the possibility that there could be extraneous factors that could prevent his hero from performing his best at the most crucial moment - during the Olympics.

Why should people blame the player for failing if he has done his best under "adverse" circumstances. The player is not answerable to his fan for making such an 'unwarranted' statement that he will win the gold. The fan has embarrassed himself for making a prediction that has gone wrong.

So it is better for the fan to say modestly that "I think so-and-so can win the Olympic gold basing on his recent good performance in both training and competiton" and not "so-and-so will win the Olympic gold' (counting chickens before they're hatched). And I think this is a more realistic statement as there are many other players who are also equally as committed and well-prepared. They also have a chance to claim gold. :cool:

Well it can simply be an embarrassment because when a fan utters emphatically to all that his "hero" will win the Olympic gold and it turned out that he couldn't, albeit for a valid reason, people will laugh at him for making a fool of himself. Why should the fan make such a statement without due regard to the possibility that there could be extraneous factors that could prevent his hero from performing his best at the most crucial moment - during the Olympics.

Why should people blame the player for failing if he has done his best under "adverse" circumstances. The player is not answerable to his fan for making such an 'unwarranted' statement that he will win the gold. The fan has embarrassed himself for making a prediction that has gone wrong.

So it is better for the fan to say modestly that "I think so-and-so can win the Olympic gold basing on his recent good performance in both training and competiton" and not "so-and-so will win the Olympic gold' (counting chickens before they're hatched). And I think this is a more realistic statement as there are many other players who are also equally as committed and well-prepared. They also have a chance to claim gold. :cool:

I cant wait for the two gold medals as claimed. :D

Dont confuse yourself. Please find me a quote from me that says I cannot accept KKK/TBH could lose at times?? What I cannot accept is the primma donna, big time Charlie attitude i.e. not showing up for training, showboating etc.

As for your bark about the demises of players & BAM, again tell me despite all the taxpayers RM invested into badminton every year for the best coach, facilities and rewards, what have we won todate??? Where is that WC or that Olympic gold??? Thomas Cup?? And for my criticism of BAM, the shuttlers and sports in general in M'sia, you feel you are entitled to hurl personal insults at me??? :o Well, in that case I can certainly see the level of your maturity.

... but anyway, though I disapprove of your personal & petty insults, I will defend to the death your rights to say it (in your case, if resorting to insults of personal nature is your calling, please go ahead). ;)

Continuous attacking of players does not show that you accept they will lose at times. It shows intolerance. It becomes your obsession to deride them.

It is of course alright for you to insult BAM and shuttlers but it is BAD of me to criticise you. And of course, my maturity is in question but not yours.

Yes, of course LCW will never win on the world stage forever because he is mentally incapable -- that is the maturity of your statement. Sure, I can comprehend that.

yeah, we (msia boleh fans) should not count the eggs before they hatched. well, didnt LYB starting counting for a clean sweep? :rolleyes: Didnt HaTaeWon count for the MD GOLD for LYD? ;)

r u guys telling me that Nadal or Fedex's fans not counting for the wimbledom GOLD before the tourney even started? I dun know... u tell me... :cool:

Losing in OG is no shame... all qualified players (on merit) are world class players.

I must agree that YKH is a bit cocky (aka over confident)... just like jose mourihno. He said the same thing to me personally though I didnt understand why he said so. Isnt LYB another cocky b**tard? :rolleyes::D

well.......
i want to see real RF vs RN in Olympic 2008 final

yeah, we (msia boleh fans) should not count the eggs before they hatched. well, didnt LYB starting counting for a clean sweep? :rolleyes: Didnt HaTaeWon count for the MD GOLD for LYD? ;)

r u guys telling me that Nadal or Fedex's fans not counting for the wimbledom GOLD before the tourney even started? I dun know... u tell me... :cool:

Losing in OG is no shame... all qualified players (on merit) are world class players.

I must agree that YKH is a bit cocky (aka over confident)... just like jose mourihno. He said the same thing to me personally though I didnt understand why he said so. Isnt LYB another cocky b**tard? :rolleyes::D

When did LYB said that a clean sweep for CHN Team in Badminton

Dudes, dont try to make up story here . He oso never said this in Athens 04

Embarrassment? Then better dont send team to OG.

Imagine if all mas players lost in their 1st game, do u count this as an embarrassment for YKH? Although he didnt make any statements...

An embarrassment is that when u know your players cant win any medals in OG, but still want to send them there.:D:D
In that case , South Africa, Nepal, Nigeria, Brasil, Czechs, Spain etc can forget about sending their badminton players to Olympics:rolleyes:

When did LYB said that a clean sweep for CHN Team in Badminton

Dudes, dont try to make up story here . He oso never said this in Athens 04

How u know he didnt? R U sure? Did u read the local chinese newspaper? The game is played at his own turf, and CHN team has at least ONE player is seeded in top FIVE for each category. So, do u think he DID NOT count for a clean sweep? wake up lah... :rolleyes:

i think LYB did say he wanna make a clean sweep in OG this yr.. i read it b4 i think.. but i couldn find da article.. :D

In that case , South Africa, Nepal, Nigeria, Brasil, Czechs, Spain etc can forget about sending their badminton players to Olympics:rolleyes:

Ask urself... did these players qualified based on world ranking or merits? hmm... they are there just to make up the numbers for those continents.

if world cup (football) is held in msia and our footballers participate as a host nation, do u think they qualified based on merits? err... :cool: Beat Thailand first lah... :rolleyes:

i think LYB did say he wanna make a clean sweep in OG this yr.. i read it b4 i think.. but i couldn find da article.. :D
well, it is a good target.
do you want to send your team there without target?
like this?? ; ok laaa, go and play badminton, win or loose also doesnt matter. got the steel medal? ok too.... at least medal :p:D:p:D

Ask urself... did these players qualified based on world ranking or merits? hmm... they are there just to make up the numbers for those continents.

if world cup (football) is held in msia and our footballers participate as a host nation, do u think they qualified based on merits? err... :cool: Beat Thailand first lah... :rolleyes:
I was referring to Dato's Statement : "An embarrassment is that when u know your players cant win any medals in OG, but still want to send them there"

Merits or not , its the official rules for Olympics.

I am not interested in MAS Football.

i think LYB did say he wanna make a clean sweep in OG this yr.. i read it b4 i think.. but i couldn find da article.. :D

It's just common sense... once in LYB's lifetime that OG will be played at his backyard and he has his players in top FIVE seed in each category. If he didnt dream for a clean sweep to impress his big boss, he should quit his job :rolleyes:

It's just common sense... once in LYB's lifetime that OG will be played at his backyard and he has his players in top FIVE seed in each category. If he didnt dream for a clean sweep to impress his big boss, he should quit his job :rolleyes:
quit??
the china olympic committee will ask him to get lost....! :rolleyes:

dont u think LCW too thin?i seldom see him using jumping smash.but i think he can still beat LD

mas football team is lousy lar..cannot even compare with any other team from all over the world..

mas football team is lousy lar..cannot even compare with any other team from all over the world..
how many countries in the world that has its own league?
M'sia in world ranking 120++.....?? :cool:

Malaysian football is an embarrasement. :(

duno wat ranking..do malaysia team have coach from other country?

Malaysian football is an embarrasement. :(
MAS could hold INA to a 1-1 draw several weeks ago, with majority of the players are young (comparing to ours).
So, although MAS and INA football are embarassment to the nations, MAS football still has hope.

My 2 cents rupiah.;)

if world cup (football) is held in msia and our footballers participate as a host nation, do u think they qualified based on merits? err... :cool: Beat Thailand first lah... :rolleyes:


what???my big bro jimbo!!!...u want mas football team to beat thailand???...if u ask lcw beat boonsak can lah...but football???...haha...

ask them to beat nepal 1st lah...

mas football team is lousy lar..cannot even compare with any other team from all over the world..

Malaysia football team ranked 166 in FIFA World Ranking currently.

There is 33 nations which is ranked lower than us, my dear.:D:D

169. Philipines
176. Chinese Taipei
182. Bangladesh
184. Cambodia
187. Brunei
204. Timor Leste

From Tennis to Badminton to Football

Totally out of topics right now :(

yeah, we (msia boleh fans) should not count the eggs before they hatched. well, didnt LYB starting counting for a clean sweep? :rolleyes: Didnt HaTaeWon count for the MD GOLD for LYD? ;)

r u guys telling me that Nadal or Fedex's fans not counting for the wimbledom GOLD before the tourney even started? I dun know... u tell me... :cool:

Losing in OG is no shame... all qualified players (on merit) are world class players.

I must agree that YKH is a bit cocky (aka over confident)... just like jose mourihno. He said the same thing to me personally though I didnt understand why he said so. Isnt LYB another cocky b**tard? :rolleyes::D

Remember what've happened in WC07:confused:
That time YKH also mentioned about bring home the 1st ever World Champs, and it ends up....:o
This guy has been given too many chances, still zero major titles for any event by MAS badminton team since his charges
And I wont be surprise LCW fire his bullets at YKH again IF he fail to win medal of any colours as Yap publicly stated with confidence.
Worst Case Scenario : ALL MAS players except LeeCW lost before Quarterfinal at Bejing, His pressure will be extremely huge -- He is carrying the chief coach's future and the whole MAS hopes, could be tumbled easily(or should I said miraculously;)) agaist any lower ranked player or dark horse in QF.

Ask urself... did these players qualified based on world ranking or merits? hmm... they are there just to make up the numbers for those continents.:rolleyes:

but isnt that excatly what olympics is all about? to bring people from all over the world to participate.

i think LYB did say he wanna make a clean sweep in OG this yr.. i read it b4 i think.. but i couldn find da article.. :D
I read somewhere abt LYB saying that too.


Will YKH resign if mas badminton team cannot get at least 1 medal in OG?

Better dont said anything lah if like that.

..Remember what've happened in WC07:confused:
That time YKH also mentioned about bring home the 1st ever World Champs, and it ends up....:o
This guy has been given too many chances, still zero major titles for any event by MAS badminton team since his charges
And I wont be surprise LCW fire his bullets at YKH again IF he fail to win medal of any colours as Yap publicly stated with confidence.


The underlined portion : AG 2006, AE 2007 was considered major title out of 4 major titles : AG, AE, WC, OG. Team event of course is TC, UBer, Surdiman

This time YKH only said medal of any colour. hiyaaa, of course lah YKH must say sthing +ve in public, must show confidence, standard-lah. If he say "very hard, very hard to win" then he will get hammering from NSC, Sports Minister for not having winning attitude.

Chairman of Msia Olympic Council, said last week gold medal is possible from badminton, YKH didnt say that.

Anyway, the target given is must win medal of any colour, if target not reach, means mission failed. The new Sports Minister said that when he took office. So, YKH say or not say in confidence, die2 also must get medal, his job also will be on the line. :D

Difficult also be chief coach, say + ve, problem, say not +ve kena hammer:D;).

YKH's 4 year contract is ending, the way he sounded like it's the end of his tenure with BAM. Hmmm, it's like he doesnt care if BAM extend his contract, like he prefer to be 'regular' coach. + the NSC director dont like YKH, say bad things abt YKH in public.

From another point of view, who wants to sit in the hot seat of chief coach, head on the chopping block most times ? Esp if salary not much difference from 'regular' coach. i.e. if nobody wants YKH's position, BAM may try to pursuade YKH to stay.

Continuous attacking of players does not show that you accept they will lose at times. It shows intolerance. It becomes your obsession to deride them.

Earlier you came out firing that I cannot accept KKK/TBH could lose at times. I asked you to find me a quote from me to back your claims up. You came up with nothing.

Now you say by continuous attacking the players it does not show that I accept they will lose at times :o. Ok, again, please find me a single quote from me that will back your claims up.

I do not criticize all players. I only do that to those who dont perform because they think they are bigger than the game. Fyi, WMC is no world beater, I dont criticize her because she put in her heart and soul.



It is of course alright for you to insult BAM and shuttlers but it is BAD of me to criticise you. And of course, my maturity is in question but not yours.

Yes, of course LCW will never win on the world stage forever because he is mentally incapable -- that is the maturity of your statement. Sure, I can comprehend that.

Again, dont confuse yourself. You dont critize. You dish out personal/petty insults. And to jolt your memory, here's your statement; "And somehow, you seem to enjoy your own insults of players but at the same time you feel it is wrong for me to insult you"

And for your info, there is a difference between criticize & personal insults. A quick check with the dictionary will set you in the right path.


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brudder.... can give face to me bor? hehe... stop all these lar... if not, boss will lock this thread that i created... can? :D:p

but isnt that excatly what olympics is all about? to bring people from all over the world to participate.

absolutely... that's the spirit of olympics :) we were just talking about qualified (based on merits) players vs non-merit players... dats all... no offence to any players, just a healthy discussion ya :p:D

In that case , South Africa, Nepal, Nigeria, Brasil, Czechs, Spain etc can forget about sending their badminton players to Olympics:rolleyes:

I think you didnt get Dato's statement.

We, Malaysia, is a major badminton playing country unlike South Africa, Brazil, Nepal, Nigeria etc etc. Our government every year invest tons of taxpayers money to hire the best coach out there, provide the best training facilities and put up financial rewards for results. I dont think South Africa invest like us in badminton. They are more into rugby and at every major rugby tournament, South Africans expect their team to deliver. For Brazil, its football. At every world cup, the national team is expected to win it.

Thus, Malaysians expect the same from our shuttlers. For all the money spent, we expect results.

Malaysian football is an embarrasement. :(

Totally, totally agree.

And Malaysian badminton is pretty close to an embarrassment as well. For all the money put into the game, we dont have an Olympic gold or WC to show yet. And the Thomas Cup is becoming a distant memory.

I think you didnt get Dato's statement.

We, Malaysia, is a major badminton playing country unlike South Africa, Brazil, Nepal, Nigeria etc etc. Our government every year invest tons of taxpayers money to hire the best coach out there, provide the best training facilities and put up financial rewards for results. I dont think South Africa invest like us in badminton. They are more into rugby and at every major rugby tournament, South Africans expect their team to deliver. For Brazil, its football. At every world cup, the national team is expected to win it.

Thus, Malaysians expect the same from our shuttlers. For all the money spent, we expect results.

sometime pemuda let me think that he is dato...^^...

yeah, we (msia boleh fans) should not count the eggs before they hatched. well, didnt LYB starting counting for a clean sweep? :rolleyes: Didnt HaTaeWon count for the MD GOLD for LYD? ;)

r u guys telling me that Nadal or Fedex's fans not counting for the wimbledom GOLD before the tourney even started? I dun know... u tell me... :cool:

Losing in OG is no shame... all qualified players (on merit) are world class players.

I must agree that YKH is a bit cocky (aka over confident)... just like jose mourihno. He said the same thing to me personally though I didnt understand why he said so. Isnt LYB another cocky b**tard? :rolleyes::D

Bro jimbo,

Why are you only quoting Nadal, Fedex and all?? They are not Malaysians la.

In the name of Malaysia Boleh, I think our shuttlers should look to our very own, Ashwita Ramesh Nair. In 2005, this then 9 year old girl made history. She achieved the longest hula hooping for a total of 2 hours, 12 minutes and 17.4 secs non-stop. Her feat is recorded in our Malaysian Book of Records.

I Anyway, the target given is must win medal of any colour, if target not reach, means mission failed. The new Sports Minister said that when he took office. So, YKH say or not say in confidence, die2 also must get medal, his job also will be on the line. :D

Difficult also be chief coach, say + ve, problem, say not +ve kena hammer:D;).

YKH's 4 year contract is ending, the way he sounded like it's the end of his tenure with BAM. Hmmm, it's like he doesnt care if BAM extend his contract, like he prefer to be 'regular' coach. + the NSC director dont like YKH, say bad things abt YKH in public.

From another point of view, who wants to sit in the hot seat of chief coach, head on the chopping block most times ? Esp if salary not much difference from 'regular' coach. i.e. if nobody wants YKH's position, BAM may try to pursuade YKH to stay.
But MAS OCM chief Tunku said they doesnt set any target for medals in Olympics. According to him, the results in OG is very unpredictable , thus to set a target will be unrealistic.
This time around, MAS chances not only will come from Badminton. Cyling & Archery too , despite their low profile in preparing OG.
Positive or give more pressure to the players who've been prooved mentally weak for WC before ? That's the question....
Chief Coach
We din't hear from Park JB @ Japan ; Tan KH @ England; HaeTK @ Korea ever complained about hot seats before. Did we?
Morten Frost, Han Jian was the Chief Coach for MAs before, and I strongly believe SALARY was not the main factor for them to leave their post @ BAM.
In Malaysia boleh spirits, the main issues for any organization : politics

But MAS OCM chief Tunku said they doesnt set any target for medals in Olympics. According to him, the results in OG is very unpredictable , thus to set a target will be unrealistic.
This time around, MAS chances not only will come from Badminton. Cyling & Archery too , despite their low profile in preparing OG.
Positive or give more pressure to the players who've been prooved mentally weak for WC before ? That's the question....
Chief Coach
We din't hear from Park JB @ Japan ; Tan KH @ England; HaeTK @ Korea ever complained about hot seats before. Did we?
Morten Frost, Han Jian was the Chief Coach for MAs before, and I strongly believe SALARY was not the main factor for them to leave their post @ BAM.
In Malaysia boleh spirits, the main issues for any organization : politics

Gold medals not only from badminton but archery and cycling as well???!! :eek: Maybe Tunku was thinking about the Sea Games instead.

But MAS OCM chief Tunku said they doesnt set any target for medals in Olympics. According to him, the results in OG is very unpredictable , thus to set a target will be unrealistic.
This time around, MAS chances not only will come from Badminton. Cyling & Archery too , despite their low profile in preparing OG.
Positive or give more pressure to the players who've been prooved mentally weak for WC before ? That's the question....
Chief Coach
We din't hear from Park JB @ Japan ; Tan KH @ England; HaeTK @ Korea ever complained about hot seats before. Did we?
Morten Frost, Han Jian was the Chief Coach for MAs before, and I strongly believe SALARY was not the main factor for them to leave their post @ BAM.
In Malaysia boleh spirits, the main issues for any organization : politics

Oh sori, wrong person, not Tunku from MOM, it was the Chinese guy, Datuk Ho Koh Chye, chief de mission for OG I think. It was just end of last week.
Yes, I've read bf the statement you posted abt cycling & archery, that was some time ago.

Press statement is press statement, depends on slant taken. DIfficult to explain, me give exple.
If you read Utusan's title, 14 April 2008 - "Josiah yakin raih pingat Olimpik"(Josiah confident of OG medal), what would you think ? Overconfident? Interviews from Star & NST on same day only talked abt their preparations only, no such statement.
Badminton : WMC change coach to Misbun, if read some press, one would think WMC conflict with WTat Meng. Got more exple, but me lazy to search.

OG Target was set by new Sports Minister, who has more power than MOM chief. BAM's target is also medal of any colour.

+ve or -ve is what chief coach can & cannot say in public. What YKH really thinks is another thing altogether.
YKH didnt complain abt hot seat, he cant do that & he wouldnt.
What I mean is me thinks nobody wants the chief coach job.

brudder.... can give face to me bor? hehe... stop all these lar... if not, boss will lock this thread that i created... can? :D:p

Bro,

I dont resort to personal/petty insults nor do I say anything racial. It is regrettable that some chose to hurl the petty insults.

But anyway, I have said my piece. ;)

Oh sori, wrong person, not Tunku from MOM, it was the Chinese guy, Datuk Ho Koh Chye, chief de mission for OG I think. It was just end of last week.
Yes, I've read bf the statement you posted abt cycling & archery, that was some time ago.

Press statement is press statement, depends on slant taken. DIfficult to explain, me give exple.
If you read Utusan's title, 14 April 2008 - "Josiah yakin raih pingat Olimpik"(Josiah confident of OG medal), what would you think ? Overconfident? Interviews from Star & NST on same day only talked abt their preparations only, no such statement.
Badminton : WMC change coach to Misbun, if read some press, one would think WMC conflict with WTat Meng. Got more exple, but me lazy to search.

OG Target was set by new Sports Minister, who has more power than MOM chief. BAM's target is also medal of any colour.

+ve or -ve is what chief coach can & cannot say in public. What YKH really thinks is another thing altogether.
YKH didnt complain abt hot seat, he cant do that & he wouldnt.
What I mean is me thinks nobody wants the chief coach job.

Aiyaaaa ... Malaysia no need to issue anymore press statements or worry about this or that. Just go to Beijing, sample the Olympic atmosphere, make some new friends, gain some experience, show up and compete, party, do some touring, buy some souvenirs, eat some good food and then come back.

... and do it all over again in 4 years time. ;)

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You are a joke when you tell me you don't insult players - your insiduous torments of players with your 'Malaysia Boleh' statements are all over the place. Go and find it yourself -- I don't have time.

Your attacks on KKK are well known here - from KKK wearing earings to blonde hair which all seems to disagree with you and they are personal (it is not just attacking their performances). So don't keep coming back to ask me to 'show me where I attacked them'.

Your comments about LCW is equally demeaning - you keep telling everyone that he has a mental weakness and you have no respect for his wins - and you keep saying he has not won anything.

You become unintelligible when you contradict yourself so much.

You are a joke when you tell me you don't insult players - your insiduous torments of players with your 'Malaysia Boleh' statements are all over the place. Go and find it yourself -- I don't have time.

And you see my critizing of those big time Charlies amongst our shuttlers as an insult to them??? :o Ohh, very well then.

Your attacks on KKK are well known here - from KKK wearing earings to blonde hair which all seems to disagree with you and they are personal (it is not just attacking their performances). So don't keep coming back to ask me to 'show me where I attacked them'.

Yes, KKK is a big time Charlie. And I stand by my statement. Even Rexy is up the wall with his antics. And yes, I think he is all flash. If you cant accept my statement/opinion and thus see the need to hurl personal attacks, by all means, go ahead. It is your right.

Your comments about LCW is equally demeaning - you keep telling everyone that he has a mental weakness and you have no respect for his wins - and you keep saying he has not won anything.

Grow up, what is so demeaning bout my comments pertaining to LCW? The lad is known to break down during the big tournaments. I was stating the facts. Unless, the facts are so glaring to you that you see them as demeaning, then I got nothing to say.

LCW broke down in KL during the WC. Compare him to LD in terms of titles won, it is pretty obvious.

You become unintelligible when you contradict yourself so much.

Thank you. I reserve my comments on your intellectual ability.



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I will end here.
Cheerios and have a nice day.

Thank you very much.
I will end here.
Cheerios and have a nice day.

For all your comments, you showed very little respect for LCW. You are keen to associate LCW with the WC loss only even though he has captured many SS's after that failure.

You write his chances off in the Olympics because of the WC loss. And you ridicule the person with all sorts of insiduous remarks. What more can I say.:rolleyes:

For all your comments, you showed very little respect for LCW. You are keen to associate LCW with the WC loss only even though he has captured many SS's after that failure.

You write his chances off in the Olympics because of the WC loss. And you ridicule the person with all sorts of insiduous remarks. What more can I say.:rolleyes:

brudder... when can u pull the handbrake? i'm worried coz Kwun might lock or delete this thread soon... give me face ok? :) tolong tolong lah... :p:D

brudder... when can u pull the handbrake? i'm worried coz Kwun might lock or delete this thread soon... give me face ok? :) tolong tolong lah... :p:D

No handbrake one when debating with Pemuda:D:D:D

For all your comments, you showed very little respect for LCW. You are keen to associate LCW with the WC loss only even though he has captured many SS's after that failure.

You write his chances off in the Olympics because of the WC loss. And you ridicule the person with all sorts of insiduous remarks. What more can I say.:rolleyes:

I have made my stand on LCW not winning the gold in Beijing because I am not convinced he got the bottle to hack it in the Olympics where the pressure is the greatest. And I based my statement from his previous records, not only on his WC loss. And I will gladly eat humble pie should LCW take the gold in Beijing. Infact I will go bald.

You yourself have predicted two gold medals from badminton. I dont agree with that, but thats your opinion and I respect that.

And as a taxpayer myself, I believe I certainly have the right to comment, rant, whinge etc as our government invest our RM into the game every year.

This is a public forum. And there will be others who will not have the same opinion as you. We just got to agree to disagree la. This is what big boys do. No need to resort to personal or petty insults. But having said that, I will still say it again, though I disapprove of what you say (in your case personal /petty insults), I will defend to the death your right to say it.

No handbrake one when debating with Pemuda:D:D:D

I will keep it civil and will not resort to personal/petty insults or anything pertaining to race or religion.

I will keep it civil and will not resort to personal/petty insults or anything pertaining to race or religion.

Different ppl got different view on the opinion that u gave here.

For KKK, Flagpole, BAM, Malaysia Boleh, Astraunauts issue, i'll be at your side:D:D

I will keep it civil and will not resort to personal/petty insults or anything pertaining to race or religion.

You keep saying no personal/petty insults - then why would you not refrain from your petty personal insults of KKK ? And please don't tell me those are words of wisdom or fair comments you made of KKK.

Do you know in the first place what an insult is ?

For all your comments, you showed very little respect for LCW. You are keen to associate LCW with the WC loss only even though he has captured many SS's after that failure.

You write his chances off in the Olympics because of the WC loss. And you ridicule the person with all sorts of insiduous remarks. What more can I say.:rolleyes:

When we talk about SS, lets take the big one, the All England.

Now, how many LCW have won todate?
Infact, if you look and analyse closely you will find that LCW have never made it to the AE final even once. Here, we have the AE, the most prestigious SS tournament, and LCW have never made it to the final.

When we talk about SS, lets take the big one, the All England.

Now, how many LCW have won todate?
Infact, if you look and analyse closely you will find that LCW have never made it to the AE final even once. Here, we have the AE, the most prestigious SS tournament, and LCW have never made it to the final.
now..... be easy
TH also didnt win the AE. but still A Olympic champion.....;)

You keep saying no personal/petty insults - then why would you not refrain from your petty personal insults of KKK ? And please don't tell me those are words of wisdom or fair comments you made of KKK.

Do you know in the first place what an insult is ?

I dont think Pemuda's comment on KKK containing insult element.

He is just telling the things. and that is a fact. Flamboyant, Big-head, stylo.and that is KKK.

I didnt see a post from Pemuda insulting KKK such as

- KKK is idixt.
- KKK no brain.
- KKK syndrxme Down.
(Bear with me mods, i am just giving example)

What is insult mean to you?

Different ppl different view on the word 'insult'.

When we talk about SS, lets take the big one, the All England.

Now, how many LCW have won todate?
Infact, if you look and analyse closely you will find that LCW have never made it to the AE final even once. Here, we have the AE, the most prestigious SS tournament, and LCW have never made it to the final.

To win some SS title throughout the year would be consider great achievements by our mas fanz.

AE, TC, WC,Olympics. These is the four major title that players dreamt of. Which one already won by LCW? as our best MS shuttler?

You keep saying no personal/petty insults - then why would you not refrain from your petty personal insults of KKK ? And please don't tell me those are words of wisdom or fair comments you made of KKK.

Do you know in the first place what an insult is ?

Ok, now you are switching to KKK. Ok no prob.

Like I have said numerous times, I dont rate KKK at all. He is a flash in the pan and I think that AE title has got to his head big time. He is all flash now and thinks he is bigger than the game. And I believe many shared my views. Even Rexy is having a tough time with KKK.

I commented on KKK showboating and being flashy with his rings and what have not etc as I think the lad has lost focus. And if you take that as personal insults, then I guess we just have to agree to disagree. But to react by hurling personal/petty insults at my direction is a little childish, I would say. But then again, though I disapprove of what you say, I will defend to the death your right to say it.

has anyone even mentioned how (sorta) ridiculous the title of this thread is if you think obviously?! LD would be Nadal and LCW would be Federer! Even though i am cheering for LD, his opponent will likely be LCW. But i would laugh if BCL won ;p, he'll lose the "2nd place man" title! And no, please don't say LYB would "disallow" him to go forward. If he looks better, he will be going ^^.

And I will gladly eat humble pie should LCW take the gold in Beijing. Infact I will go bald.


:DPics please of u before and after if LCW wins hehe:p;)

now..... be easy
TH also didnt win the AE. but still A Olympic champion.....;)

Brother,

I really dont care what TH won or have not won, simply because he is not a Malaysian though I admire him for winning that Olympic gold.

But LCW, KKK/TBH ... these chaps are Malaysians. And they represent our nation. Our hard earned taxpayers RM are invested every year to provide them the best of everything. We hire the best coach out there. We provide them the best facilities and equipment. And where do you think that RM1 million reward and pension scheme will come from??? Is it so wrong to ask some telling questions like where is our Olympic gold, WC or Thomas Cup or even the AE titles??? And is it wrong for us to critize when our shuttlers failed to deliver because they strut about thinking they are bigger than the game?

:DPics please of u before and after if LCW wins hehe:p;)

You have my word.

Ok, now you are switching to KKK. Ok no prob.

Like I have said numerous times, I dont rate KKK at all. He is a flash in the pan and I think that AE title has got to his head big time. He is all flash now and thinks he is bigger than the game. And I believe many shared my views. Even Rexy is having a tough time with KKK.

I commented on KKK showboating and being flashy with his rings and what have not etc as I think the lad has lost focus. And if you take that as personal insults, then I guess we just have to agree to disagree. But to react by hurling personal/petty insults at my direction is a little childish, I would say. But then again, though I disapprove of what you say, I will defend to the death your right to say it.

To Pemuda and X-Ball,

Please don't stop .....I enjoy reading your comments....:D

To Pemuda and X-Ball,

Please don't stop .....I enjoy reading your comments....:D

because it doesn't involve TH:confused::D:p:cool::eek::D

Brother,

I really dont care what TH won or have not won, simply because he is not a Malaysian though I admire him for winning that Olympic gold.

But LCW, KKK/TBH ... these chaps are Malaysians. And they represent our nation. Our hard earned taxpayers RM are invested every year to provide them the best of everything. We hire the best coach out there. We provide them the best facilities and equipment. And where do you think that RM1 million reward and pension scheme will come from??? Is it so wrong to ask some telling questions like where is our Olympic gold, WC or Thomas Cup or even the AE titles??? And is it wrong for us to critize when our shuttlers failed to deliver because they strut about thinking they are bigger than the game?

Then...what do you expect from them (Malaysian players)? They did not ask for such a reward. They did not ask for the best couch. They did not ask for the best facilities and equipment.

Brother,

I really dont care what TH won or have not won, simply because he is not a Malaysian though I admire him for winning that Olympic gold.

But LCW, KKK/TBH ... these chaps are Malaysians. And they represent our nation. Our hard earned taxpayers RM are invested every year to provide them the best of everything. We hire the best coach out there. We provide them the best facilities and equipment. And where do you think that RM1 million reward and pension scheme will come from??? Is it so wrong to ask some telling questions like where is our Olympic gold, WC or Thomas Cup or even the AE titles??? And is it wrong for us to critize when our shuttlers failed to deliver because they strut about thinking they are bigger than the game?
yes...... with this kind of talking, it will be acceptable. rather than not win that, not qualify this, then has less chance to get the medal...

Then...what do you expect from them (Malaysian players)? They did not ask for such a reward. They did not ask for the best couch. They did not ask for the best facilities and equipment.
yes, they didnt ask.
but, when we ask "why cant you perform?"
they will give such excuses........;)

because it doesn't involve TH:confused::D:p:cool::eek::D

No...because it is a Family Feud factor....:D

yes, they didnt ask.
but, when we ask "why cant you perform?"
they will give such excuses........;)

What if they say...none of your business, it is you fault why you keep on providing us with what we actually never ask for in the first place.

But you keep on paying some portions of your tax to them, you demand them to do what you want and expect them to do, then they fail to live up to your expectations, then you get angry again and find fault on them... they are also humans....giving "unexpected and unwanted" excuses is also humane...:D

Then...what do you expect from them (Malaysian players)? They did not ask for such a reward. They did not ask for the best couch. They did not ask for the best facilities and equipment.

If the shuttlers are not looking at rewards. Did not ask for the best coach. Did not ask for the best facilities and equipment ... this only goes to show they are not hungry for success. Very simple, get rid of them and train up another batch that are hungry and determined.



It goes beyond the shuttlers. We need to look at the big picture and address the root cause. Not only badminton in Malaysia is faltering. We need to revamp the set up. In the first place, we should allow professionals to manage sports. Then we ought to steward everything based on results and performance. This way we weed out the passengers. Based everything on merit rather than the usual pampering or subsidy based.

No handbrake one when debating with Pemuda:D:D:D

I have a feeling that either kwun or mod will lock this thread. arrgghhh... my effort wasted :crying::mad:

brudder pemuda and xball,
tolong tolong lah... pull handbrake leh... almost reach the edge oredi... if not, kwun will take action soon... :crying:

I have a feeling that either kwun or mod will lock this thread. arrgghhh... my effort wasted :crying::mad:

brudder pemuda and xball,
tolong tolong lah... pull handbrake leh... almost reach the edge oredi... if not, kwun will take action soon... :crying:

Dont worry la. Xball and I will debate and engage in a civil manner.

Dont worry la. Xball and I will debate and engage in a civil manner.

Pemuda,

You are attempting a mission impossible here... Best of luck to you.

The word "civil" has a whole different meaning to some people:rolleyes: I know you will act like a civilized gentleman, but I can also warn you to be prepared for plenty of insults coming your way if you don't have faith in LCW making it in the OG08.:eek:

My words are done, to me it is pointless arguing. There will be no conclusive end as I don't see your viewpoints at all.

Pemuda,

You are attempting a mission impossible here... Best of luck to you.

The word "civil" has a whole different meaning to some people:rolleyes: I know you will act like a civilized gentleman, but I can also warn you to be prepared for plenty of insults coming your way if you don't have faith in LCW making it in the OG08.:eek:

Yes, and you obviously practice the right civility with such comments.

Yes, and you obviously practice the right civility with such comments.

Come on. Is there a need for you to attack him instead now. All of us just gotta learn to accept that there will be others who may or may not share the same opinion as us.

Life is not about being bitter. Move on, dude. Furthermore, the Olympics is just round the corner and I look forward to that two golds as predicted by you. :D

My words are done, to me it is pointless arguing. There will be no conclusive end as I don't see your viewpoints at all.

Jimbo, your thread are safe now:D:D:D

Life is not about being bitter. Move on, dude. Furthermore, the Olympics is just round the corner and I look forward to that two golds as predicted by you. :D

two GOLDS from "uncles" and WCH? :eek::D I rather go the souviner shop to buy the GOLDS... :p

I must say "relak lar... brudder...." :)

Come on. Is there a need for you to attack him instead now. All of us just gotta learn to accept that there will be others who may or may not share the same opinion as us.


As you said it, learn how to accept that there will be people like me who don't share your point of views nor accept Banakid's insult of me.

As you said it, learn how to accept that there will be people like me who don't share your point of views nor accept Banakid's insult of me.

Brother,

When and where did bananakid insulted you personally?? He was stating something in general, it wasnt directed at anyone or you in particular. Bro, you are too tensed la. Loosen up, ok?

To loosen up, one must join in the fun! :p:p:p

Pemuda,

You are attempting a mission impossible here... Best of luck to you.

The word "civil" has a whole different meaning to some people:rolleyes: I know you will act like a civilized gentleman, but I can also warn you to be prepared for plenty of insults coming your way if you don't have faith in LCW making it in the OG08.:eek:
might as well chip in here, dont believe LCW will get even into the semi. the pressure getting the first gold or silver for MAL will get to him. like him as a person but not his playing style, more like the old morten frost but smaller and faster, too passive.

hard to say, players reacted to pressure differently. Also, this is LCW second time around. LD has lots of pressure too.

The OG medalists are all the best for that week. I still say their world ranking and for how long for is still a better way to rank player's true level.

Shon Mo, JXP, alan budi are good examples

hard to say, players reacted to pressure differently. Also, this is LCW second time around. LD has lots of pressure too.

also for the added pressure, like it or not, for both LD and LCW 2008 OG will be most likely their last OG. as the sport getting more physical demanding.

Brother,

When and where did bananakid insulted you personally?? He was stating something in general, it wasnt directed at anyone or you in particular. Bro, you are too tensed la. Loosen up, ok?

I am as loose as I can be else I won't be as free with my words here. You guys are the ones who should loosen up else you might miss all the fun supporting LCW and winning. :D

Imagine him winning and you have to go bald - who would have more fun ?

might as well chip in here, dont believe LCW will get even into the semi. the pressure getting the first gold or silver for MAL will get to him. like him as a person but not his playing style, more like the old morten frost but smaller and faster, too passive.

Well. to each his opinion. But I think he will win because he is no longer that passive as you said. The psychology sessions must have helped. He is believing himself now and it told the difference in the TC, where he beat LD easily. And there was pressure in that game as either of them has to win to give their country a chance.

And he is not coming out 'firing on all fours' immediately these days but paces himself well to conserve energy to get him past the 3rd game, if it comes to that. It is the right strategy - no more burn outs in the 3rd game.

might as well chip in here, dont believe LCW will get even into the semi. the pressure getting the first gold or silver for MAL will get to him. like him as a person but not his playing style, more like the old morten frost but smaller and faster, too passive.

I think you are not being fair to LCW, now world ranked just behind LD. LCW has experienced many ups and downs during his professional career and as pointed out, he has not won the AE yet just as Olympic Champion TH has also missed that prestigious trophy somehow. On the other hand Morten Frost has won the AE many times, though not as many as record holder, Rudy Hartono.

On current form, which I rate as a very useful guage to an athlete's performance at the forthcoming Beijing Olympics, LCW has proved many of his detractors wrong with his recent showing, particularly his demolition of LD (21-12, 21-14 in 36min) during the Jakarta Thomas Cup SF in May and he followed up with his decisive win over Simon Santoso ( 21-13, 21-5 in 29 min) for the Singapore Open crown in June after defeating Peter Gade 21-18, 21-13 in 37 min in the SF. After that LCW chose to remain at home to polish up on his "deficiencies" including the mental aspects to prepare for the gigantic Olympics. So LCW has come a long way and will be well-prepared to face all opponents next month in Beijing.

That is not to say he will beat everybody but he is as good as any of the other top-class candidates to capture the Olympic crown. LCW will certainly be in the small group of potential winners which includes LD, BCL, CJ, SDK,TH, PG, KJ, PSH and LHI. The form of the day will determine who will be eliminated first but very highly likely that the final two gladiators will come from this group.

So to relegate LCW to just the QF is not doing justice to the man who has come a long way and it is now time for him to reap his harvest, not unless something unpredictable along the way has set him back.

So to relegate LCW to just the QF is not doing justice to the man who has come a long way and it is now time for him to reap his harvest, not unless something unpredictable along the way has set him back.


Spoken like a gladiator.:D

My analysis....if LCW vs LD now...LCW will win....The present LCW is totally different from he was 3 months ago. Looking at their last match during the TC 2008, he was obviously the better player in almost all aspects.

So to relegate LCW to just the QF is not doing justice to the man who has come a long way and it is now time for him to reap his harvest, not unless something unpredictable along the way has set him back.

as much as we like to see the dream final between LD and LCW my gut feeling is that one of them will not be in the final. if i'm in a hot air balloon and to pick a winner between them and will be out of the basket if i got it wrong i know who i'll bet my life on. so, for LCW or LD not to be in the final probably will be gone before the SF.

as much as we like to see the dream final between LD and LCW my gut feeling is that one of them will not be in the final. if i'm in a hot air balloon and to pick a winner between them and will be out of the basket if i got it wrong i know who i'll bet my life on. so, for LCW or LD not to be in the final probably will be gone before the SF.

Do you know who will make one of them not in the final? The answer is below...please scroll down.....but before scrolling down..please say it loudly first who will make one of them not in the final!














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TAUFIK HIDAYAT!!!!!:D THE DEFENDING CHAMPION

haha.....our INDRA is back......haha

TAUFIK HIDAYAT!!!!!:D THE DEFENDING CHAMPION

a few months ago i've eliminated him out as a potential. the important factor is does he still has the fire in him to have one more go to defend his title, according to other posters he has. which is good for the sport but not his opponents. it is no doubt that this guy has talent, and loads of it. all he needs is motivations, if second OG gold is not enough he might as well go home and play with his kid(s).

TAUFIK HIDAYAT!!!!!:D THE DEFENDING CHAMPION

haha... may be I should change the title of this thread : The Wimbledon Final: Taufik (FedEx) vs LCW (Nadal) :eek::D

I dont mind who wins coz I'm happy afterall... hehe... :p

Let's hope TH will not come in the way of LCW. :eek:
Why not let TH test LD before the SF? :rolleyes:
Now LYB may have other ideas since BCL and CJ will be able to partially provide the shield. :(
But he can't have complete manipulation. It is left to the almighty DRAW! :p
For that, we have to wait till Sat, 26 July. :D

..........but I can also warn you to be prepared for plenty of insults coming your way if you don't have faith in LCW making it in the OG08.:eek:

Ha ha, you sure havent read the locked threads or didnt read the posts that have been deleted by the mods. Those of us who do have faith in LCW or Msian players have had "plenty of insults" thrown at us too by the same said person but did not reply in the same fashion ;):D.

I dont think Pemuda's comment on KKK containing insult element.

....Different ppl different view on the word 'insult'.

:D:D, You havent read the locked threads from the Prof Players section :D. "One Time Charlie" means one time only win and "Jinjang Joe" for certain quarters does not have good meaning.
Would you be insulted if as a hetreosexual Asian male, it's implied that you're a sissy or (worse than that).. ? I heard that hmmm 'JJ' nick can be interpreted to mean that too.

If you dont, eagle also dunno what to say liao.

Aiyoo, the title itself is already an insult toward Marat Safin, David Nalbandian, John Blake, etc...

:D:D, You havent read the locked threads from the Prof Players section :D. "One Time Charlie" means one time only win and "Jinjang Joe" for certain quarters does not have good meaning.
Would you be insulted if as a hetreosexual Asian male, it's implied that you're a sissy or (worse than that).. ? I heard that hmmm 'JJ' nick can be interpreted to mean that too.

If you dont, eagle also dunno what to say liao.

so much story ah on Pemuda post. I really dunno.:D:D

Then i should think twice before i made my statement on Pemuda's post....:D:D

so much story ah on Pemuda post. I really dunno.:D:D

Then i should think twice before i made my statement on Pemuda's post....:D:D

ok, ok, eagle also better give face to our Jimbo, hmmm, back to topic....:D

Jimbo look like want to see LD vs LCW in MS finals.
Make it more interesting, if both2 dont get in finals, who would be the contestants ?

korean player lee hyun ill and park sung huan dont have chance?

korean player lee hyun ill and park sung huan dont have chance?
My prediction on 2008 Olympics Badminton event MS Final

1. LinDan vs Park SungHwan
Or
2. Lindan vs Bao Chun Lai

even china is better than mas./

wrong message..

ok, ok, eagle also better give face to our Jimbo, hmmm, back to topic....:D

Jimbo look like want to see LD vs LCW in MS finals.
Make it more interesting, if both2 dont get in finals, who would be the contestants ?

If this happened, then the final match contestants would be

WONG CHOON HANN VS. RONALD SUSIE-LOH:D:D

If this happened, then the final match contestants would be

WONG CHOON HANN VS. RONALD SUSIE-LOH:D:D
WCH get the GOLD medal.....?? :eek::eek::eek:
now, who want to eat the shuttlecock...??

If this happened, then the final match contestants would be

WONG CHOON HANN VS. RONALD SUSIE-LOH:D:D

Shame on you that you left out the mighty Wacha! :D

My prediction on 2008 Olympics Badminton event MS Final

1. LinDan vs Park SungHwan
Or
2. Lindan vs Bao Chun Lai

What happens if they are all in the same half of the draw? :rolleyes:

On the other hand, being WR1 and WR2 respectively, LD and LCW will be separated and if they are able to eliminate all that come their way, they will most likely meet in the final! :p

Not unless a dark horse appears to spoil the party? Indra's TH for example who seems determined to make his last hurrah or Li Mao's proteges since he has an axe to grind with both LYB and LD? :eek:

Now with so many top-class players vying for the rare and precious Olympic crown, they will not want to mess up their own chances and will give their all to advance to the next stage of the competition. :cool:

The forthcoming Draw will be most interesting! :)

And I can't wait to witness a slice of the action in Beijing! ;)

Ha ha, you sure havent read the locked threads or didnt read the posts that have been deleted by the mods. Those of us who do have faith in LCW or Msian players have had "plenty of insults" thrown at us too by the same said person but did not reply in the same fashion ;):D.

Seriously, on your allegation of 'plenty of insults thrown at us' thingy, can you provide some proof that personal insults were indeed hurled?? I dont recall calling you any names, unless you consider me calling KKK a flash in the pan or big time Charlie as personal insult to you, then I guess I am guilty :o

Would appreciate you in chipping in rather than sniping from distance.

:D:D, You havent read the locked threads from the Prof Players section :D. "One Time Charlie" means one time only win and "Jinjang Joe" for certain quarters does not have good meaning.
Would you be insulted if as a hetreosexual Asian male, it's implied that you're a sissy or (worse than that).. ? I heard that hmmm 'JJ' nick can be interpreted to mean that too.

If you dont, eagle also dunno what to say liao.

Wait a minute here .... hold on please ... first of all, I believe I have never called KKK a 'One Time Charlie' :o. Would really appreciate you to get your facts right, please. :o:rolleyes: I mean if you want to make an allegation against someone, please la do some homework so that you have some credibility, at least.

I called KKK a big time Charlie. Yes. And yes, because of his hairdo and rings and what not, I did called him a Jinjang Joe BUT if you are now saying by calling KKK a big time Charlie and Jinjang Joe, I have insulted you instead, I am sorry I find you being comical.

... and by the way, is Jinjang Joe an insult?? Really, do enlighten me, where is it written that Jinjang Joe is an insult, please? Errr... if Jinjang Joe is an insult, then calling someone Ahmad or Aneh is an insult too eh?

I dont get what you are trying to imply with your 'sissy' statement. :(:o

Pemuda,

You are attempting a mission impossible here... Best of luck to you.

The word "civil" has a whole different meaning to some people:rolleyes: I know you will act like a civilized gentleman, but I can also warn you to be prepared for plenty of insults coming your way if you don't have faith in LCW making it in the OG08.:eek:

It is going to be an uphill battle I am afraid. But I am still going to say my piece.

Already there are some quarters in the Malaysia Boleh fans who take me calling KKK a big time Charlie as a personal insult to them. :rolleyes:

If this happened, then the final match contestants would be

WONG CHOON HANN VS. RONALD SUSIE-LOH:D:D

haha... datok... haha.... :D:p

Not bad for uncle Wong coz he will pocket RM$1mil + RM$5000/month pension scheme. But nothing beat susie-loh coz he will earn S$500K (RM$1.19mil). Not bad for a FT :p

It is going to be an uphill battle I am afraid. But I am still going to say my piece.

Already there are some quarters in the Malaysia Boleh fans who take me calling KKK a big time Charlie as a personal insult to them. :rolleyes:

brudder... take a seat n sip a cappucino... enjoy this beautiful song... :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6o8NlrbHg

brudder... take a seat n sip a cappucino... enjoy this beautiful song... :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6o8NlrbHg

I will have that cuppacinno in one hand and the other hand holding off those Boleh fans while listening to some old school jazz. :D

Malaysia Boleh fans everything also boleh one.

I will have that cuppacinno in one hand and the other hand holding off those Boleh fans while listening to some old school jazz. :D

Malaysia Boleh fans everything also boleh one.

aiya... just enjoy the song while sipping ur capucino... haha...

anyway, regardless of the FINAL outcome (who vs who), we should enjoy the hype just like those Euro soccer fans... :p

aiya... just enjoy the song while sipping ur capucino... haha...

anyway, regardless of the FINAL outcome (who vs who), we should enjoy the hype just like those Euro soccer fans... :p

... of course we will enjoy ... but as fans we are entitled to say who we think will win/fail.

In my case, I dont think MAS will win the gold in Beijing. I predict LCW to have a breakdown (as usual in big tournaments) and KKK/TBH to have a early tour of the Great Wall. I will shave my head bald should we win the gold. :D

... of course we will enjoy ... but as fans we are entitled to say who we think will win/fail.

In my case, I dont think MAS will win the gold in Beijing. I predict LCW to have a breakdown (as usual in big tournaments) and KKK/TBH to have a early tour of the Great Wall. I will shave my head bald should we win the gold. :D
unless you're a bald now, isn't a big bet considering if u win, u would only get a stick or 2 satay chicken?

Who ever win doesn't matter, it is very competitive, a good/bad 5 minutes spell could be end of the road for a great player. I just want to enjoy good badminton.

unless you're a bald now, isn't a big bet considering if u win, u would only get a stick or 2 satay chicken?

I am 23 and trust me I have a head full of hair.

... and shaving my head bald is no big deal for me. It is only hair after all. :D

The forthcoming Draw will be most interesting! :)

And I can't wait to witness a slice of the action in Beijing! ;)

The draw is out....

QF

LD vs PSH
TH vs Peter Gade
Bao vs Sony
LCW vs LHI

SF
PSH vs TH
Sony vs LCW

Final
TH vs Sony

GOLD ==> TH, ooh...I can't believe it:D

Seriously, on your allegation of 'plenty of insults thrown at us' thingy, can you provide some proof that personal insults were indeed hurled??1) I dont recall calling you any names, unless you consider me calling 2) KKK a flash in the pan or big time Charlie as personal insult to you, then I guess I am guilty :o

Would appreciate you in chipping in rather than sniping from distance.
1) The last line is just pretending to ask, then when ppl answer, you will comment2(this is saying it nicely), that just happened 3 weeks ago. And after that say "Msia Boleh hordes" this & that.
:rolleyes: If the next reply comes in sarcasm, veiled or direct, I'll take it you're purposely provoke for the sake of entertainment. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52965&page=21. Post #361

I already highlighted, you're very smart, as if dunno why I've said bf "you dont have to be sharp abt it"
Posts "comical" (read : Stupid) , "even a 3 year old ....." (read : Stupid) , "shallow", "bordering on emotional", "bordering on nonsensical" (read: nonsense) "senseless & childish", "low class" amongst other things.
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53360&page=13 (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53360&page=13)
and the preceding 12 pages
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53400&page=9
pages 9, 10, 11 and you misunderstood eagle's meaning again.


Those only 2 exples from 2008, tak kuasa to look the rest. Not to mention 90% of the time misunderstand eagle's point, troublesome for eagle to every time correct misconception.

2) and "Jinjang Joe". i.e. "along" or loan shark does not have good meaning = heartless loan shark= low life fellas. Some people interpret JJ to mean 'those who do the "akua"(transvestite) shows'

Remember that one BCer found it insulting that just cos another BCer called him "Chinaman". In real life, if one guy calls another guy "senseless & childish" to the face, it's an invitation to get beaten up. That havent include the more interesting adjectives used, that the mods have been deleted.

As I've said bf, if you find eagle's post "comical" i.e. beneath you, dont have to bother wasting energy replying, since it's soooo comical/petty, etc,etc.;);)

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52965&page=20 post #351 and
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52338&page=3
post # 51, and pages 1,2,4,5...ends it.


And out of courtesy for the thread starter Jimbo, we next stick to the topic:D:D

haha... datok... haha.... :D:p

Not bad for uncle Wong coz he will pocket RM$1mil + RM$5000/month pension scheme. But nothing beat susie-loh coz he will earn S$500K (RM$1.19mil). Not bad for a FT :p

Jimbo ah, isnt it S$ 1 million, as announced? :confused: RS should be Sporean now as he needs citizenship to compete for Spore, right?

1) The last line is just pretending to ask, then when ppl answer, you will comment2(this is saying it nicely), that just happened 3 weeks ago. And after that say "Msia Boleh hordes" this & that.
:rolleyes: If the next reply comes in sarcasm, veiled or direct, I'll take it you're purposely provoke for the sake of entertainment. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52965&page=21. Post #361

I already highlighted, you're very smart, as if dunno why I've said bf "you dont have to be sharp abt it"
Posts "comical" (read : Stupid) , "even a 3 year old ....." (read : Stupid) , "shallow", "bordering on emotional", "bordering on nonsensical" (read: nonsense) "senseless & childish", "low class" amongst other things.
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53360&page=13 (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53360&page=13)
and the preceding 12 pages
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53400&page=9
pages 9, 10, 11 and you misunderstood eagle's meaning again.


Those only 2 exples from 2008, tak kuasa to look the rest. Not to mention 90% of the time misunderstand eagle's point, troublesome for eagle to every time correct misconception.

2) and "Jinjang Joe". i.e. "along" or loan shark does not have good meaning = heartless loan shark= low life fellas. Some people interpret JJ to mean 'those who do the "akua"(transvestite) shows'

Remember that one BCer found it insulting that just cos another BCer called him "Chinaman". In real life, if one guy calls another guy "senseless & childish" to the face, it's an invitation to get beaten up. That havent include the more interesting adjectives used, that the mods have been deleted.

As I've said bf, if you find eagle's post "comical" i.e. beneath you, dont have to bother wasting energy replying, since it's soooo comical/petty, etc,etc.;);)

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52965&page=20 post #351 and
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52338&page=3
post # 51, and pages 1,2,4,5...ends it.


And out of courtesy for the thread starter Jimbo, we next stick to the topic:D:D

He has tricked you with the usual 'tell me where I have said this in BC'. He basically doesn't have any ideas what he said and he wants you to prove it to him. And if you do prove it, he will come up with more excuses or more provocative statements. He gets a real thrill from you subcribing to his provocation - so I hope by now you know what he is all about.

He has tricked you with the usual 'tell me where I have said this in BC'. He basically doesn't have any ideas what he said and he wants you to prove it to him. And if you do prove it, he will come up with more excuses or more provocative statements. He gets a real thrill from you subcribing to his provocation - so I hope by now you know what he is all about.

Never mind loh, then he'll get banned a 3rd time for it ;):p. The links are also for some ppl still think we're "ganging up" on him or "attacking" him. You also reply2 mah, save energy, have some satay :D:D

Never mind loh, then he'll get banned a 3rd time for it ;):p. The links are also for some ppl still think we're "ganging up" on him or "attacking" him. You also reply2 mah, save energy, have some satay :D:D


Yes but I never subscribe to his trick.:D

Yes but I never subscribe to his trick.:D
Then ppl will say you're simply attacking, he he :D:D. Now eagle not the one doing the attacking, 90% of the time also he misinterpret, after so many months still misunderstand.

hahahahaha....LCW will lose. There is no hope, Lin Dan will give him a !@#$kicking

hahahahaha....LCW will lose. There is no hope, Lin Dan will give him a !@#$kicking
lets wait and see during the OG08.;):)
there is no guarantee he will lose juz because u post this:p

hahahahaha....LCW will lose. There is no hope, Lin Dan will give him a !@#$kicking

oh...new kung fu skill by lin dan???after flying xxxxxxx and punching xxxxx:D

ya..wait and see..sure is a amazing n great match.

come on chong wei!!!!!!!!! chong wei will be the first to win gold medal....

1) The last line is just pretending to ask, then when ppl answer, you will comment2(this is saying it nicely), that just happened 3 weeks ago. And after that say "Msia Boleh hordes" this & that.
:rolleyes: If the next reply comes in sarcasm, veiled or direct, I'll take it you're purposely provoke for the sake of entertainment. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52965&page=21. Post #361

I already highlighted, you're very smart, as if dunno why I've said bf "you dont have to be sharp abt it"
Posts "comical" (read : Stupid) , "even a 3 year old ....." (read : Stupid) , "shallow", "bordering on emotional", "bordering on nonsensical" (read: nonsense) "senseless & childish", "low class" amongst other things.
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53360&page=13 (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53360&page=13)
and the preceding 12 pages
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53400&page=9
pages 9, 10, 11 and you misunderstood eagle's meaning again.


Those only 2 exples from 2008, tak kuasa to look the rest. Not to mention 90% of the time misunderstand eagle's point, troublesome for eagle to every time correct misconception.

2) and "Jinjang Joe". i.e. "along" or loan shark does not have good meaning = heartless loan shark= low life fellas. Some people interpret JJ to mean 'those who do the "akua"(transvestite) shows'

Remember that one BCer found it insulting that just cos another BCer called him "Chinaman". In real life, if one guy calls another guy "senseless & childish" to the face, it's an invitation to get beaten up. That havent include the more interesting adjectives used, that the mods have been deleted.

As I've said bf, if you find eagle's post "comical" i.e. beneath you, dont have to bother wasting energy replying, since it's soooo comical/petty, etc,etc.;);)

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52965&page=20 post #351 and
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52338&page=3
post # 51, and pages 1,2,4,5...ends it.


And out of courtesy for the thread starter Jimbo, we next stick to the topic:D:D


You have got to be kidding me... you called those insults? Where in the hack did you find one word that he used that directly or indirectly "INSULTED" you? He was simply debating with you with his own opinions... let me show you proof of what petty insults are:

How about this... calling someone stupid...
post #67
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=584304#post584304

How about this one... talk about a debate! guess who wrote it, yeah... you got that right!

"Wrong, Wrong, Wrong (read it musically please) ! UnBeknown to you poor souls, he is now armed with the latest MACintosh ! As always, if you are blinded by bias, you will remain the same. :D "




Now, last and not least... here is the one that cracks me up the most... this is one which one person insults his own IQ, and bite himself in the butt here:

First comes this:

"Let us forget this argument. We cannot base the performance of the past for the future, either way.
If they don't win today, it does not mean they will not win tomorrow, and even if they win today, it may not mean they will win tomorrow."

then read this...:p

From June 2007
" LCW is the man
and he is god send
Come WC in August
He will definitely be first !"

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused:

It is going to be an uphill battle I am afraid. But I am still going to say my piece.

Already there are some quarters in the Malaysia Boleh fans who take me calling KKK a big time Charlie as a personal insult to them. :rolleyes:

It is no longer an uphill battle... I mean like you and them are not even close to being on the same pagae... pretty much reading two different books so to speak.

They consider your fair and logical debate as an insult, when there is not even one single word in your posts that directly or indirectly insulted them.:confused:

You have got to be kidding me... you called those insults? Where in the hack did you find one word that he used that directly or indirectly "INSULTED" you? He was simply debating with you with his own opinions... let me show you proof of what petty insults are:
.....

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused:

1st thing, you dont see eagle reply in anything that's close to that fashion. And eagle wasnt the one who got banned (and you know why), the mods are from different countries, they're open minded enuf.

You have to scroll back & forth to read, ;):p, I'm sure you dont have time to read all 20++ pages of some of them. And like I said, there were more, that's just 2 examples in 2008, you havent seen the 2007 ones, maybe the mods have deleted those too.:p

And Like I also said : the more graphic ones have already been deleted by the mods.

Finding people's post "comical" means finding that person downright stupid (i.e. implying "your post is so stupid, it's laughable" = it's worse than stupid) just an indirect way, which happens on a regular basis.

How would you feel if someone called you "senseless & childish" ?(I didnt post that link cos it just happened)
Or how come cannot understand sthing so elementary that a 3 year old also knows ? (read: very stupid)


It is worst when he mis-interpret the original statement & make a judgement based on that misinterpretation. And this misinterpretration just happened yet again.

And like I said, and in real life, calling someone "senseless & childish" , is an invite to get beaten up, seriously. And if I ever refer to someone that way in real life, I'll be sacked.

And like I said, one BCer even have found someone calling him "Chinaman" as insulting.
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And btw, I've read the link, I dont find as insulting as "senseless & childish" (read: brainless, totally no brain) or continously being branded as 'comical" (read : stupid or dumbo), which just happened again.

Unless of course, your definition of insult is those XXXX words & find "senseless" less insulting than "stupid". :DThere's the direct way & indirect way, the indirect way is worse, me thinks.

Anyway, <peace>, my apologies to our Jimbo:D

And finally, can we safely presume that this nonsense Malaysian civil war has officially ended?

Here, I can give you a suggestion: stay calm and cool your heads down. Done? Good. Then, you can begin writing all your insults/bashing/whatever you can give if your opponent's prediction goes disarray.
Now, you can wait for the Game. Let's see, who the real champion is, and whose prediction is correct.
After that, you are more than welcome to unleash all your bashings toward "opposing faction."
Simple, ne?

Please remember the true spirit of Ancient Olympics. In ancient Greece, Olympics was considered a holy ceasefire. Hence, nations waging war stopped their battles due to the upcoming Games. They opt to see who's better there. (CMIIW. I learned it in my Phys. ed. theory class). Why can't we modern people follow this noble action?

The draw is out....

QF

LD vs PSH
TH vs Peter Gade
Bao vs Sony
LCW vs LHI

SF
PSH vs TH
Sony vs LCW

Final
TH vs Sony

GOLD ==> TH, ooh...I can't believe it:D

My goodness, Indra's prediction has come true! :eek:
But he is better than LYB for he managed to manipulate the Draw in advance! :D

My goodness, Indra's prediction has come true! :eek:
But he is better than LYB for he managed to manipulate the Draw in advance! :D

Houdini would have been proud of this protege. His illusion was of the highest order.:D

As you said it, learn how to accept that there will be people like me who don't share your point of views nor accept Banakid's insult of me.

Where and when did bananakid insulted you?? I think you owe the man an apology, that is if you are big enough to own up.

1) The last line is just pretending to ask, then when ppl answer, you will comment2(this is saying it nicely), that just happened 3 weeks ago. And after that say "Msia Boleh hordes" this & that.
:rolleyes: If the next reply comes in sarcasm, veiled or direct, I'll take it you're purposely provoke for the sake of entertainment. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52965&page=21. Post #361

"Malaysia Boleh hordes" is an insult? :confused: Which dictionary are you using?
Suggest you cut down on the assumptions.

I already highlighted, you're very smart, as if dunno why I've said bf "you dont have to be sharp abt it"
Posts "comical" (read : Stupid) , "even a 3 year old ....." (read : Stupid) , "shallow", "bordering on emotional", "bordering on nonsensical" (read: nonsense) "senseless & childish", "low class" amongst other things.
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53360&page=13 (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53360&page=13)
and the preceding 12 pages
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53400&page=9
pages 9, 10, 11 and you misunderstood eagle's meaning again.


Dear, what you are putting up are a bunch of comments I made at BAM, Malaysian sports in general & etc. I am asking you to provide me one simple statement from me that have me calling you names. Instead, you go about this wild goose chase. Very simple, lets have one statement from me that have me throwing personal & petty insults your way.

... and what are you now rambling about me being smart and all??? Can you stay on subject - show me one statement from me that have me directing personal/petty insults at you personally.

Those only 2 exples from 2008, tak kuasa to look the rest. Not to mention 90% of the time misunderstand eagle's point, troublesome for eagle to every time correct misconception.

2) and "Jinjang Joe". i.e. "along" or loan shark does not have good meaning = heartless loan shark= low life fellas. Some people interpret JJ to mean 'those who do the "akua"(transvestite) shows'

Transvestite!!!! What has transvestite gotta do with Jinjang Joe now??? All I asked of you was to show me proof that Jinjang Joe was an insult? ... and now you throw in this transvestite word?? :o:confused:

Jinjang Joe = 'along' or loan shark??? :o Where and when is it written?? I have been a Malaysian for 23 years and seriously this is the first time I heard of it. :rolleyes:

Seriously, can we do away with usual spin?

Remember that one BCer found it insulting that just cos another BCer called him "Chinaman". In real life, if one guy calls another guy "senseless & childish" to the face, it's an invitation to get beaten up. That havent include the more interesting adjectives used, that the mods have been deleted.

As I've said bf, if you find eagle's post "comical" i.e. beneath you, dont have to bother wasting energy replying, since it's soooo comical/petty, etc,etc.;);)

"One time Charlie" ... I replied because I feel it is unethical when one make unsubstantiated claims.

... and you know what is funny? You did all this pasting about previous postings but somehow you are unable to come up with the proof that I used the "One time Charlie" thingy. :);) ... and you know you made a mistake because I certainly did not call any shuttler/s "One time Charlie" BUT you are unable to bring yourself to own up to your mistake. ;)


http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52965&page=20 post #351 and
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52338&page=3
post # 51, and pages 1,2,4,5...ends it.


And out of courtesy for the thread starter Jimbo, we next stick to the topic:D:D


Out of courtesy to the thread starter, I think we should provide facts rather than spin i.e. "One time Charlie" .... I am still waiting for such a claim to be substantiated. :D;)

Never mind loh, then he'll get banned a 3rd time for it ;):p. The links are also for some ppl still think we're "ganging up" on him or "attacking" him. You also reply2 mah, save energy, have some satay :D:D

At least I dont put up wild empty unsubstantiated claim i.e "One time Charlie" and then try to wriggle away when being found out. :D

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=839789&postcount=345 ... funny, why those who sit on that high horse chose to close the other eye when insults are thrown by certain quarters.

You have got to be kidding me... you called those insults? Where in the hack did you find one word that he used that directly or indirectly "INSULTED" you? He was simply debating with you with his own opinions... let me show you proof of what petty insults are:

How about this... calling someone stupid...
post #67
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=584304#post584304

How about this one... talk about a debate! guess who wrote it, yeah... you got that right!

"Wrong, Wrong, Wrong (read it musically please) ! UnBeknown to you poor souls, he is now armed with the latest MACintosh ! As always, if you are blinded by bias, you will remain the same. :D "




Now, last and not least... here is the one that cracks me up the most... this is one which one person insults his own IQ, and bite himself in the butt here:

First comes this:

"Let us forget this argument. We cannot base the performance of the past for the future, either way.
If they don't win today, it does not mean they will not win tomorrow, and even if they win today, it may not mean they will win tomorrow."

then read this...:p

From June 2007
" LCW is the man
and he is god send
Come WC in August
He will definitely be first !"

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused:

Yes, I saw Xball's statement. But for people such as eagle such comments are not insults. She may even consider it as music to her ears.

It is no wonder we call Malaysia, Bolehland!

Yes, I saw Xball's statement. But for people such as eagle such comments are not insults. She may even consider it as music to her ears.

It is no wonder we call Malaysia, Bolehland!


The context in which you use 'Malaysia Boleh' is an insult to not just yourself but also all Malaysians.

At least I dont put up wild empty unsubstantiated claim i.e "One time Charlie" and then try to wriggle away when being found out. :D

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=839789&postcount=345 ... funny, why those who sit on that high horse chose to close the other eye when insults are thrown by certain quarters.


In support of Eaglehelang, 'one time Charlie' or 'big time Charlie' is all in the same context - it was used to disgrace someone. You can't tell us it is not. You insult people and you try to put up excuses and arguments -- always asking people to substantiate when it is so evident.

Where and when did bananakid insulted you?? I think you owe the man an apology, that is if you are big enough to own up.

I know an insult when I see one. And your support of him is an even bigger insult.

At least I dont put up wild empty unsubstantiated claim i.e "One time Charlie" and then try to wriggle away when being found out. :D

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=839789&postcount=345 ... funny, why those who sit on that high horse chose to close the other eye when insults are thrown by certain quarters.

And yes, I know abt the above link too . Read again, I didnt say it's not an insult, I said I dont find as insulting as "senseless & childish". Stupid still got brain, senseless = totally brainless. Misinterpretation again. ;)


Remember, I dont even come close to calling you any of those stuff you called me or the rudeness you showed when I replied nicely. And what does eagle get for being nice -> attacking or showing how "comical" (read: stupid), or "senseless & childish", "shallow" etc, etc eagle is. Which continously happened over many months since 2007;).

And interpret my posts wrongly 90% of the time & keep on making noise(I didnt say "ranting") after it's pointed out it's wrong interpretation. Just happened 2 weeks ago.
And telling ppl not to do this & that (Swiss Open threads) , when other ppl tell you a bit only, get angry ("This is a public forum", yada, yada).;)


"Big time Charlie" I interpret as being very, very arrogant empty vessel, still not good meaning= insult. and truthfully, I just read that post as I missed it the 1st round.
And I did recall "one time charlie" too, somewhere your comment on LCW ;), I didnt just coin up the word. So, perhaps eagle remember wrong on that count. Happy?:D
I've actually forgotten abt "flash in the pan" till you mentioned it, not good meaning too.

For someone who like to call people as those "who sit on high horse"....:D
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=832932&postcount=211
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=791485&postcount=45

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Xball ah, next time dont call people "stupid" can? :D:D;)

Dear God...
Why can't you cool down and wait for the OG patiently?

Instead of debating over 'Nadal' and 'Fedex', you keep doing your 'routine chores' again and again...

Dear God...
Why can't you cool down and wait for the OG patiently?

Instead of debating over 'Nadal' and 'Fedex', you keep doing your 'routine chores' again and again...

ya...agree...relax lar...kak helang

ya...agree...relax lar...kak helang

not only me, they all also relax lar, he he, limsy, we continue with Asia Juniors results at the other thread, he he.

Jadpanther, sori, relak lah, dont get irritated :D

not only me, they all also relax lar, he he, limsy, we continue with Asia Juniors results at the other thread, he he

ya...^^...like this just right mah...^^...

The context in which you use 'Malaysia Boleh' is an insult to not just yourself but also all Malaysians.

The Malaysia Boleh 'success' of having the tallest flagpole, tallest pencil in the world, biggest ikan bakar grill, biggest roti canai, eye in sky etc is an insult to the intelligence to Malaysians. Our economy, sports, education, police, judicial etc are today's testament of Malaysia semua boleh.

... but I dont blame you for not knowing. I fully subscribe to the ; if a frog is placed in boiling water, it will jump out, but if it is placed in cold water that is slowly heated, it will never jump out.

In support of Eaglehelang, 'one time Charlie' or 'big time Charlie' is all in the same context - it was used to disgrace someone. You can't tell us it is not. You insult people and you try to put up excuses and arguments -- always asking people to substantiate when it is so evident.

Of course, I dont expect you to understand the difference. That would be asking too much out of you.

I know an insult when I see one. And your support of him is an even bigger insult.

Well, show me then where and when did bananakid insulted you personally?

And yes, I know abt the above link too . Read again, I didnt say it's not an insult, I said I dont find as insulting as "senseless & childish". Stupid still got brain, senseless = totally brainless. Misinterpretation again. ;)


Remember, I dont even come close to calling you any of those stuff you called me or the rudeness you showed when I replied nicely. And what does eagle get for being nice -> attacking or showing how "comical" (read: stupid), or "senseless & childish", "shallow" etc, etc eagle is. Which continously happened over many months since 2007;).

And interpret my posts wrongly 90% of the time & keep on making noise(I didnt say "ranting") after it's pointed out it's wrong interpretation. Just happened 2 weeks ago.
And telling ppl not to do this & that (Swiss Open threads) , when other ppl tell you a bit only, get angry ("This is a public forum", yada, yada).;)


"Big time Charlie" I interpret as being very, very arrogant empty vessel, still not good meaning= insult. and truthfully, I just read that post as I missed it the 1st round.
And I did recall "one time charlie" too, somewhere your comment on LCW ;), I didnt just coin up the word. So, perhaps eagle remember wrong on that count. Happy?:D
I've actually forgotten abt "flash in the pan" till you mentioned it, not good meaning too.

For someone who like to call people as those "who sit on high horse"....:D
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=832932&postcount=211
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=791485&postcount=45

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Xball ah, next time dont call people "stupid" can? :D:D;)

You are freaking me out. First you bring up that "Transvestite' subject totally out of nowhere. :eek: And now you are going in circles try to patch some postings together to try to manipulate stuff and all.

If you said you recalled I used that 'One time Charlie', then please provide the evidence. Dont brush it off with "I think I recalled..." statement. Be responsible when you make an allegation, ok?

Big time Charlie, Jinjang Joe, Flash in the pan ... all I directed at our shuttlers who dont perform because of their unprofessional attitude. It was not directed at you. Understand the difference now??

Oh deary me ... Malaysia really boleh. :o:eek:

i think everyone should calm down and concentrate on the thread's title.
:)

Should we bring X_Ball, Pemuda and EagleHelang together to watch the Final match at KL Padang with big screen (only if LCW vs LD in the final)? wat u think will happen? :eek::D I'll bring along a helmet to shield myself from flying stones :eek::p

I must say "Hello... relak lah" :)

Should we bring X_Ball, Pemuda and EagleHelang together to watch the Final match at KL Padang with big screen (only if LCW vs LD in the final)? wat u think will happen? :eek::D I'll bring along a helmet to shield myself from flying stones :eek::p

I must say "Hello... relak lah" :)
dont worry, it will not extend to that kind of situation.
Pemuda isnt hate nor support LCW. he is just voice out some facts which may seem offended to somebody. however, i do believe Pemuda still a Malaysia lover......:)

Should we bring X_Ball, Pemuda and EagleHelang together to watch the Final match at KL Padang with big screen (only if LCW vs LD in the final)? wat u think will happen? :eek::D I'll bring along a helmet to shield myself from flying stones :eek::p

I must say "Hello... relak lah" :)

I am afraid LCW wont make it past the early rounds. But for conversation sake, should LCW make the final and meet LD, LD will win. By then, I will walk away with my ipod jammed in my ears. I wont resort to stones throwing nor petty/personal insults. :D

Ok... I am relax now.

ok ..relax:)
peace ok?:D

... and by the way, is Jinjang Joe an insult?? Really, do enlighten me, where is it written that Jinjang Joe is an insult, please? Errr... if Jinjang Joe is an insult, then calling someone Ahmad or Aneh is an insult too eh?


Hope not too late to join the fun....

Jinjang Joe = Is a 'Joe' who lives in Jinjang (not too sure KL or Selangor)
How about Ahmad who lives in a district called Batang Berjuntai (Perak state)
He would be called Ahmad Batang Berjuntai ?
:D:D:D

dont worry, it will not extend to that kind of situation.
Pemuda isnt hate nor support LCW. he is just voice out some facts which may seem offended to somebody. however, i do believe Pemuda still a Malaysia lover......:)

Lim Kit Siang also love malaysia although he is opposition's taiko:D:D

Hope not too late to join the fun....

Jinjang Joe = Is a 'Joe' who lives in Jinjang (not too sure KL or Selangor)
How about Ahmad who lives in a district called Batang Berjuntai (Perak state)
He would be called Ahmad Batang Berjuntai ?
:D:D:D

Exactly my point!!! Is living in Jinjang an insult?? I have several good friends who are from Jinjang and I dont see them being insulted and all. But what is freaking me out is when someone associate Jinjang Joe = Transvestite. :eek:

I must have ruffled some Malaysia Boleh fans feathers. :p

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Lim Kit Siang also love malaysia although he is opposition's taiko:D:D

Oh yes, Kit Siang!! He bantai everything about the government & that Malaysia Boleh thingy so I am sure Kit Siang must have personally insulted some 'people' here as well :D:p

Malaysia Boleh!

Oh yes, Kit Siang!! He bantai everything about the government & that Malaysia Boleh thingy so I am sure Kit Siang must have personally insulted some 'people' here as well :D:p

Malaysia Boleh!

It is hard when u are talking something is true, but hard to be accepted by ppl. Or they purposely dont want to accept it although they knew it's true.:D:D

Oh yes, Kit Siang!! He bantai everything about the government & that Malaysia Boleh thingy so I am sure Kit Siang must have personally insulted some 'people' here as well :D:p

Malaysia Boleh!

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Lim Kit Siang also love malaysia although he is opposition's taiko:D:D
no politics here please.:D:D:D:cool:

well, everyone is looking forward for a Nadal vs Fedex Finals in beijing too! hahaha :D

will both the num2 prevail or... NOT! :D

no politics here please.:D:D:D:cool:

I am sorry, Your Honour.:D:D

It is hard when u are talking something is true, but hard to be accepted by ppl. Or they purposely dont want to accept it although they knew it's true.:D:D

I believe it all comes down to our maturity.

I mean, I am questioning why Malaysia, despite millions of RM being invested into badminton each year, we still cant win an Olympic gold, WC and that Thomas Cup is like a distant memory. This Olympic, we are talking about a RM1 million reward and a monthly pension of RM5,000 for life. That is a lot of taxpayers money! In view of our current economic situation what we are investing in badminton today is more than luxury. We provide our shuttlers with the best coaching out there. Provide the best facilities and equipment etc. So, whats wrong in us asking for some results??? Whats wrong in asking how come Denmark can win the WC & Olympic gold, but we are unable to do so?

Our Malaysian mentality is another big problem. Look at KKK/TBH as an example. They win one AE, they get big headed. Same with HH. As for LCW, his temperament and mentality is weak. Look at his record at AE & WC. But of course, we have some decent professionals like WMC.

On the side note, I think we dish out awards a little too soon. I think Nicoll David is world class and all. She deserved her success. BUT I think the 'Datukship' award came a little too soon. The State should have awarded her the Datukship after her retirement. You dont see David Beckham being awarded a "Sir" by the Queen. Being in her 20s, I think Nicoll is a little too young to hold that Datuk title. And of course, we dont want to see "Datukships" being dished out to more 20 yr olds or else the title will have no value.

This disease of ours is not only affecting our badminton. It is across all our other sports as well. We are shitty but rather than owning up and taking steps to improve, we sweep all our shortcomings under the carpet and anyone who criticise the state of our sports all hell will break lose from the Boleh fans. Malaysia Boleh is a sacred cow. People refuse to see things for what they are. Common sense no longer prevails when you look at things from the angle of cults. And 'Malaysia Boleh' coined by politicians to divert our attention from our failures have successfuly removed the common sense amongst us thus you will see our politicians and their lackeys all sitting pretty and holding high positions in all our sports associations/bodies today. And they will be there despite failures after failures ... at the expense of our taxpayers ... while we continue chanting Malaysia Boleh.

no politics here please.:D:D:D:cool:

Hold on to your pants. Dont be too quick to play the policeman here. Who is talking about politics here? By refering to Kit Siang, it does not mean one is talking politics here. ;)

I believe it all comes down to our maturity.

I mean, I am questioning why Malaysia, despite millions of RM being invested into badminton each year, we still cant win an Olympic gold, WC and that Thomas Cup is like a distant memory. This Olympic, we are talking about a RM1 million reward and a monthly pension of RM5,000 for life. That is a lot of taxpayers money! In view of our current economic situation what we are investing in badminton today is more than luxury. We provide our shuttlers with the best coaching out there. Provide the best facilities and equipment etc. So, whats wrong in us asking for some results??? Whats wrong in asking how come Denmark can win the WC & Olympic gold, but we are unable to do so?

Our Malaysian mentality is another big problem. Look at KKK/TBH as an example. They win one AE, they get big headed. Same with HH. As for LCW, his temperament and mentality is weak. Look at his record at AE & WC. But of course, we have some decent professionals like WMC.

On the side note, I think we dish out awards a little too soon. I think Nicoll David is world class and all. She deserved her success. BUT I think the 'Datukship' award came a little too soon. The State should have awarded her the Datukship after her retirement. You dont see David Beckham being awarded a "Sir" by the Queen. Being in her 20s, I think Nicoll is a little too young to hold that Datuk title. And of course, we dont want to see "Datukships" being dished out to more 20 yr olds or else the title will have no value.

This disease of ours is not only affecting our badminton. It is across all our other sports as well. We are shitty but rather than owning up and taking steps to improve, we sweep all our shortcomings under the carpet and anyone who criticise the state of our sports all hell will break lose from the Boleh fans. Malaysia Boleh is a sacred cow. People refuse to see things for what they are. Common sense no longer prevails when you look at things from the angle of cults. And 'Malaysia Boleh' coined by politicians to divert our attention from our failures have successfuly removed the common sense amongst us thus you will see our politicians and their lackeys all sitting pretty and holding high positions in all our sports associations/bodies today. And they will be there despite failures after failures ... at the expense of our taxpayers ... while we continue chanting Malaysia Boleh.

pemuda,

Do you know how much the state has invested annually in badminton in Malaysia?

pemuda,

Do you know how much the state has invested annually in badminton in Malaysia?
If I can guess, it's two or three times bigger than us...:D

pemuda,

Do you know how much the state has invested annually in badminton in Malaysia?

Indra,

Malaysia is unique and over here how public funds are allocated are not as transparent as say Hong Kong, Singapore or Denmark etc. However, if RM11 million of public funds were used for Women's Sports and Fitness Foundation Malaysia (WSFFM) for some song and dance for over a year; http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=21506, simple common sense will tell you that badminton being a bigger and more popular sport will definitely take up more than RM11 million. The training facilities, equipment, coaching, administrative, players & staff wages, travel and lodging etc etc ... we are certainly looking at more than RM11 million. This is just the yearly expenditures. What about public funds used to built and maintained training/medical facilities, stadium etc?

Pemuda, please be very patient.

The 1 million reward will be safe in the gov pocket, coz no player can grab gold medal in the OG, including LCW.

Everytimes in the big tournament, mas players always be quoted as

- Best chances ever
- Favourites to win

But what is the results? We won nothing.

So, if LCW really make it to final, he also cant win the game, bcoz of the mentality is weak, according to you. This, i agree.

Pemuda, please be very patient.
So, if LCW really make it to final, he also cant win the game, bcoz of the mentality is weak, according to you. This, i agree.

You seem to be contradicting yourself because this is what you wrote in post #71 today under the thread title "Beijing Olympics 2008 - Singapore's badminton chances".

"... We maybe not as good as Singapore, in terms of quality of life, economic growth, earnings etc. But 1 thing for sure, our LCW is favourite to win the OG Gold Medal for his own country, and he is not FT, he is malaysia born malaysian..."

Can you explain? :rolleyes:

i wonder what odds Sandy would give to LD and LCW if they meet in the final, 10:10 or 11:9?

You seem to be contradicting yourself because this is what you wrote in post #71 today under the thread title "Beijing Olympics 2008 - Singapore's badminton chances".

"... We maybe not as good as Singapore, in terms of quality of life, economic growth, earnings etc. But 1 thing for sure, our LCW is favourite to win the OG Gold Medal for his own country, and he is not FT, he is malaysia born malaysian..."

Can you explain? :rolleyes:

haha... after Pemuda vs X_Ball vs EagleHelang, now we have Dato vs Loh... haha... it's getting fun here... countdown to OG08... :p:D

I must say "hello, relak lah..." :)

then me will be vs lin dan in the final of the OG08...hahhahahaa:D:D
damn funny..lolx

then me will be vs lin dan in the final of the OG08...hahhahahaa:D:D
damn funny..lolx

haha.. u vs ld?? hahaha.. :D

haha.. u vs ld?? hahaha.. :D
yea, because im chong wei:p:p

You seem to be contradicting yourself because this is what you wrote in post #71 today under the thread title "Beijing Olympics 2008 - Singapore's badminton chances".

"... We maybe not as good as Singapore, in terms of quality of life, economic growth, earnings etc. But 1 thing for sure, our LCW is favourite to win the OG Gold Medal for his own country, and he is not FT, he is malaysia born malaysian..."

Can you explain? :rolleyes:

It is just an example between FT and local-born talent. Any problem?

'' LCW is favourite to win the OG Gold Medal for his own country '' &
'' LCW will for sure win the OG Gold Medal for his own country ''

It's different. I am sorry for my poor english language that make ppl confused. And of course, our english standard are not as good as our neighbour's.

It is just an example between FT and local-born talent. Any problem?

'' LCW is favourite to win the OG Gold Medal for his own country '' &
'' LCW will for sure win the OG Gold Medal for his own country ''

It's different. I am sorry for my poor english language that make ppl confused. And of course, our english standard are not as good as our neighbour's.

Dato, you should not confuse anyone. But now that you have apologised, hopefully your neighbour would accept you better.:D

Dato, you should not confuse anyone. But now that you have apologised, hopefully your neighbour would accept you better.:D

With X Ball's intervention, the problem is solved. Hope the Dato will do likewise to be good neighbours. ;)

Dato, you should not confuse anyone. But now that you have apologised, hopefully your neighbour would accept you better.:D

In order to survive in this tiny island, ones must be equipped with good english and meticulous in details, esp wordings. There's a big different between "Honest Mistake" and "Mistake and being honest" :eek::D

Let's hope our LCW will not make "Honest Mistake" :p

Indra,

Malaysia is unique and over here how public funds are allocated are not as transparent as say Hong Kong, Singapore or Denmark etc. However, if RM11 million of public funds were used for Women's Sports and Fitness Foundation Malaysia (WSFFM) for some song and dance for over a year; http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=21506, simple common sense will tell you that badminton being a bigger and more popular sport will definitely take up more than RM11 million. The training facilities, equipment, coaching, administrative, players & staff wages, travel and lodging etc etc ... we are certainly looking at more than RM11 million. This is just the yearly expenditures. What about public funds used to built and maintained training/medical facilities, stadium etc?

POLICE TAKE STATEMENT FROM A FORMER PRESIDENT OF BADMINTON ASSOCIATION
Bernama - Monday, July 14
KUALA LUMPUR, July 14 (Bernama) -- A former president of the Kuala Lumpur Badminton Association today gave a statement to the police to assist in investigation into a case of alleged misappropriation of association funds.

Cheras District Police Chief ACP Ahmad Amir Mohd Hashim, when contacted, confirmed the matter, saying that the former top official of the association gave the statement at the Cheras District Police Headquarters at about 9am.

The association was reported to be facing a crisis following the disappearance of RM350,000 from its account besides a management problem faced by the association.

-- BERNAMA

KK LES SN AO

With X Ball's intervention, the problem is solved. Hope the Dato will do likewise to be good neighbours. ;)

Good neighbours, yes.:D:D

If RS VS. LCW in the final then is very good:D:D:D

Good neighbours, yes.:D:D

If RS VS. LCW in the final then is very good:D:D:D

Good for u Dato... u have matured and improved ur EQ :eek::p

Saw this article... very weird incident... just wanna share with everyone here... sorry, I dont know how to translate to English... :crying:
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羽球拍折断 飞插入头
（新加坡）新明日报 (2008-07-17)
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（综合电）中国广州某高校的陈姓体育老师在观看羽毛球训练时，竟飞来横祸。 :crying::eek::crying:


　　对面一名学生在杀球时，球拍折断，金属杆连同圆形球拍划了一道弧线飞出，恍如标枪，直插入陈老师两眼中 间的额头，深达两厘米。紧急送院经医生三个小时手术，才将球拍拔除。:eek:

　　医生表示，额骨本是人体最硬的骨头之一，但因球拍刚好插进只有一元硬币大小、额骨中最脆弱的额窦部位， 才会插入脑内。
　　网民大叹事主“大难不死”，有人更建议“告羽毛球拍厂家，产品有缺陷！”

场边观看训练　飞来羽毛球杆 　　陈老师是广州某高校的体育老师，事发当天正带领学生在体育馆进行羽毛球训练。当时他正坐在场边，突然， 对面斜飞过来一只羽毛球拍，不偏不倚正好插进他的前额正中。原来是对面的学生杀球时球拍出了意外。事故发生 后，陈老师被马上送入附近的广州市红十字会医院。一路上陈老师都保持清醒，两手紧紧抓着球杆。

can anyone translate tat article??:D pls :D

Wow what a freak incident...