Misbun: Chong Wei now cool under pressure

[Loh]

The Star Online
Thursday July 17, 2008


By LIM TEIK HUAT

KUALA LUMPUR: The change in attitude of shuttler Lee Chong Wei is already a good reason for coach Misbun Sidek having the confidence that his charge will not let him down in the Beijing Olympics next month.

It has been more than a year since Chong Wei returned to train under Misbun and the Olympics will be the biggest test for the 26-year-old since his dismal failure in the World Championships in Bukit Jalil last year.

An out-of-sorts Chong Wei disappointed the home fans when he fell to a crushing defeat by Indonesian Sony Dwi Kuncoro in the third round.

But Misbun said that Chong Wei's self-confidence had improved a lot and he was now better at handling pressure. And Misbun saw no need to make big changes to Chong Wei's game ahead of the Olympics.

“In the past, he would be afraid of certain players but he now talks with confidence on how he can beat them,” he said.

“He is coping well with the expectations that come with being rated as Malaysia's medal hope in the Olympics. He is more relaxed about it compared to previously when he tends to get agitated easily and lose focus.

“His commitment to training is also exemplary to the other singles players. I have not had any request from him coming to me with reasons to skip a training session.”

Chong Wei will be competing in his second Olympics as the second seed behind China's Lin Dan.

“Chong Wei is doing fine in his high intensity training mode before a competition. His fitness, movement and agility are at a good level,” said Misbun.

“In sparring, the intensity has increased with the juniors giving good commitment in the sessions and Chong Wei is taking it well. I will be tapering down the sessions when we go into centralised training camp with the rest of the Olympic team.”

Currently, women's singles player Wong Mew Choo also trains under Misbun at the Michael Badminton Academy in Bandar Puteri Puchong.

The Beijing-bound squad will begin training together at the Juara Stadium in Bukit Kiara from Monday.

[X Ball]

http://www.nst.com.my/Thursday/Sport/2295606/insidepix1

Gold Medal around the neck is his way of saying it is his. :)

[ants]

Was with them during the training sessions. LCW was training well. His sparring partners was giving him a hard time. During one of the session break, one of the jr can't recall him name, gave an inspirational speech to LCW and Mew Choo. Everyone is working hard for them.
Same goes to Choon Han and the doubles Department. All the sparring partners gave no mercy to them during the sessions.

Misbun is calm and look cool at the moment. He even asked me to give some pointers for him to coach LCW and feedback on how LCW did in the training sessions. HAhahah... i jokingly told him.. if i start giving pointers, you better give up your job. Of course i'm in the least position to give any pointers. Well there was some fun during the sessions too.

[george@chongwei]

u can post it here>> http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56655

its nice to hear that lee chong wei is very cool under pressure now although the OG08 is juz around the corner:):)

[X Ball]

Was with them during the training sessions. LCW was training well. His sparring partners was giving him a hard time. During one of the session break, one of the jr can't recall him name, gave an inspirational speech to LCW and Mew Choo. Everyone is working hard for them.
Same goes to Choon Han and the doubles Department. All the sparring partners gave no mercy to them during the sessions.

Misbun is calm and look cool at the moment. He even asked me to give some pointers for him to coach LCW and feedback on how LCW did in the training sessions. HAhahah... i jokingly told him.. if i start giving pointers, you better give up your job. Of course i'm in the least position to give any pointers. Well there was some fun during the sessions too.

I will be glad to impart some motivational bits to him so that he can use it on LCW. And no, I won't take over his job.:D

[xymaerts]

Yes,after he fail in WC in KL.. I can see that LCW had improve over mental strength..

[ctjcad]

...
Misbun is calm and look cool at the moment. He even asked me to give some pointers for him to coach LCW and feedback on how LCW did in the training sessions. HAhahah... i jokingly told him.. if i start giving pointers, you better give up your job. Of course i'm in the least position to give any pointers. Well there was some fun during the sessions too.
..ants, you might've misheard Misbun. He probably was asking you if you'd like to join in the fun and be one of the sparring partners...;)

u can post it here>> http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56655

its nice to hear that lee chong wei is very cool under pressure now although the OG08 is juz around the corner:):)
...i hope our George is as cool as, if not cooler than, Lee Chong Wei..:cool:;):cool:

[ants]

..ants, you might've misheard Misbun. He probably was asking you if you'd like to join in the fun and be one of the sparring partners...;)

...i hope our George is as cool as, if not cooler than, Lee Chong Wei..:cool:;):cool:

HAha.. i did try before.. for fun. But i can only last few rounds. My body cant cope with the intensity. Instead of train .. i'm being trained and slaughtered. Thats it. But it was fun. I love the challenge.

[cooler]

..ants, you might've misheard Misbun. He probably was asking you if you'd like to join in the fun and be one of the sparring partners...;)

...i hope our George is as cool as, if not cooler than, Lee Chong Wei..:cool:;):cool:everybody is cool when not under stress;)
Him playing simon santoso is not a stressful activity;)

everybody is looking forward to the LD vs LCW MS final
it is also why OG tickets for the badminton event is the 1st sport event got sold out

[ctjcad]

HAha.. i did try before.. for fun. But i can only last few rounds. My body cant cope with the intensity. Instead of train .. i'm being trained and slaughtered. Thats it. But it was fun. I love the challenge.
..i thought the sparring players were playing together on 1 side of the court??..Misbun probably was looking at the sidelines, probably for a fresh body, and saw you all smiling & giggling and asked if you'd like to jump in??..;)

everybody is cool when not under stress;)
Him playing simon santoso is not a stressful activity;)

everybody is looking forward to the LD vs LCW MS final
it is also why OG tickets for the badminton event is the 1st sport event got sold out
..will our C:cool::cool:L:cool:R keep our George C:cool::cool:L, when the heat rises??.. ;)

[cooler]

georgie seem nice enough, i'll take it easy on him. I'll beat him last;)

[ants]

..i thought the sparring players were playing together on 1 side of the court??..Misbun probably was looking at the sidelines, probably for a fresh body, and saw you all smiling & giggling and asked if you'd like to jump in??..;)

..will our C:cool::cool:L:cool:R keep our George C:cool::cool:L, when the heat rises??.. ;)

There are few courts. Not all in one court. For sparring sessions i only participated in those 3 vs 1 drills. Its not easy. I do smile most of the time watching them spar. Misbun always make fun of me. But in all seriousness.. i don't like to disturb them when they spar or train. Its their job u know.. have to be professional mah.
I only join in when they are having fun and towards the end of the training session of the day. Furthermore i'm not a pro also.

[huangkwokhau]

same thing as Pelatnas....beter to look at them only....hehe

[Pemuda]

Cool enough to deliver Malaysia 1st Olympic gold??

[drifit]

Cool enough to deliver Malaysia 1st Olympic gold??
let's cross our finger.....!!
however, the chance is still there. whether he still calm from R1 till Final and get the GOLD.....;)

[george@chongwei]

..i thought the sparring players were playing together on 1 side of the court??..Misbun probably was looking at the sidelines, probably for a fresh body, and saw you all smiling & giggling and asked if you'd like to jump in??..;)

..will our C:cool::cool:L:cool:R keep our George C:cool::cool:L, when the heat rises??.. ;)


georgie seem nice enough, i'll take it easy on him. I'll beat him last;)
dont worry, chris..
i will always cool untill the OG08.:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:;);););)
except if ...:rolleyes::rolleyes::o..
cooler, i will make u more cooler and cooler after the OG08 if lee chong wei wins the gold:cool::cool::cool::D:D:D:p
if he doesnt, i will need u to cool me down.:D

[Loh]

Just wonder how LD and his teammates are faring? Whether they are as cool as LCW? :cool:

And we haven't heard the latest from Korea including Li Mao's strategy against LYB.

[cooler]

Just wonder how LD and his teammates are faring? Whether they are as cool as LCW? :cool:

And we haven't heard the latest from Korea including Li Mao's strategy against LYB.i bet ld is hot and sweaty from intense training:p

[giant]

if he is not sweaty then the coach wil defiitely gt a red face..i would like to see how is their training..

[Pemuda]

let's cross our finger.....!!
however, the chance is still there. whether he still calm from R1 till Final and get the GOLD.....;)

The thing is all the shuttlers who compete in Beijing have a chance. The difference is who has the overall package (technique, temperament, luck) to take it all the way and win that gold.

[drifit]

The thing is all the shuttlers who compete in Beijing have a chance. The difference is who has the overall package (technique, temperament, luck) to take it all the way and win that gold.
that are what i said..... but let us leave the luck behind. we want to win with glory!!! :D
calm and consistency

[Pemuda]

that are what i said..... but let us leave the luck behind. we want to win with glory!!! :D
calm and consistency

Its true all the shuttlers competing in Beijing have a chance to win that gold. And like it or not, other than technique, temperament, you also need some lady luck.

[drifit]

Its true all the shuttlers competing in Beijing have a chance to win that gold. And like it or not, other than technique, temperament, you also need some lady luck.
talking about "lady" luck
what will happen IF....
LD vs LCW at final
XXF vs WMC at final too....? :D:p:D:p

[Pemuda]

talking about "lady" luck
what will happen IF....
LD vs LCW at final
XXF vs WMC at final too....? :D:p:D:p

Well, if the final is between LD & LCW, I put my money on LD because he is stronger mentally & is playing in his own backyard.

As for XXF & WMC, though my heart want WMC to win, smart money is on XXF to take it.

and again, in all sports you need a little lady luck. ;)

Malaysia Boleh to you.

[CLELY]

All favourite atheletes have huge pressure to compete top-sport event like Beijing OG, not only LCW and it's a normal situation.

[Jagdpanther]

Talking about pressure, is our TH already immune to such thing?

[X Ball]

Talking about pressure, is our TH already immune to such thing?

He is no longer under pressure - nobody expects him to win, so obviously if immune is the word, he should be.:D

[ctjcad]

..ala 2004 all over, again??..:confused:;)

[Jagdpanther]

..ala 2004 all over, again??..:confused:;)
The same thing happens in 2004 as well?
Well, instead of Nadal or Fedex, if it's Safin the 'unexpected one' who turns out to be the gold medalist, who knows?:eek::p:D

If he keeps on training like crazy till OG, just like Mr. Rudy told us, the hope is still there!

[Pemuda]

I will be glad to impart some motivational bits to him so that he can use it on LCW. And no, I won't take over his job.:D

Well, Malaysia needs all the help it can get. And if a 'motivational guru' like you wanna chip in, hell why not! In Malaysia Boleh, too many cooks wont spoil the broth.

[Pemuda]

Was with them during the training sessions. LCW was training well. His sparring partners was giving him a hard time. During one of the session break, one of the jr can't recall him name, gave an inspirational speech to LCW and Mew Choo. Everyone is working hard for them.
Same goes to Choon Han and the doubles Department. All the sparring partners gave no mercy to them during the sessions.

Misbun is calm and look cool at the moment. He even asked me to give some pointers for him to coach LCW and feedback on how LCW did in the training sessions. HAhahah... i jokingly told him.. if i start giving pointers, you better give up your job. Of course i'm in the least position to give any pointers. Well there was some fun during the sessions too.

Sorry ... missed this posting.

Regarding your 'with them during their training etc' , you are with BAM? Part of the coaching set up??

[ctjcad]

..for all the M'sian fans, esp. all the LCW fans, here are a couple of pics of him training in KL.;)
(pics courtesy of REUTERS).:cool:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080724/i/r1676249493.jpg?x=222&y=345&sig=igrA52OFPtG6.xMPrcDtbw--
Malaysia's badminton shuttler Lee Chong Wei runs during a physical training in Kuala Lumpur July 24, 2008. Lee holds one of Malaysia's best shots at a gold medal since the country first sent athletes to the Olympics 52 years ago, but the badminton shuttler says pressure is not a problem -- yet. With two weeks to go before the Beijing Games begin, the world No. 2 told Reuters hard-core physical training had ended and he was now getting mentally prepared to face the best badminton players in the world.
REUTERS/Zainal Abd Halim (MALAYSIA)

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080724/i/r1844356964.jpg?x=400&y=300&sig=Y9UQkb5TSH4M6sxhgrQmVA--
Malaysia's badminton shuttler Lee Chong Wei (L) gets a massage from coach Misbun Sidek during a physical training in Kuala Lumpur July 24, 2008. Lee holds one of Malaysia's best shots at a gold medal since the country first sent athletes to the Olympics 52 years ago, but the badminton shuttler says pressure is not a problem -- yet. With two weeks to go before the Beijing Games begin, the world No. 2 told Reuters hard-core physical training had ended and he was now getting mentally prepared to face the best badminton players in the world.
REUTERS/Zainal Abd Halim (MALAYSIA)

[KlasseE]

..for all the M'sian fans, esp. all the LCW fans, here are a couple of pics of him training in KL.;)
(pics courtesy of REUTERS)/Zainal Abd Halim (MALAYSIA)

thanks ctjcad....:)

[Pemuda]

Just saw on Astro channel 823 (Oly8) a short feature of LCW. He was speaking mandarin when being interviewed. Hmmm ... why mandarin?? What not speak in our national language, Bahasa Malaysia?? My next question, does LCW know how to speak Bahasa?? Just find it odd thats all. LCW is representing Malaysia and mandarin is not our national language.

Hmmm ... I certainly dont see LD speaking dutch or TH in tamil during their respective interviews.

[limsy]

Just saw on Astro channel 823 (Oly8) a short feature of LCW. He was speaking mandarin when being interviewed. Hmmm ... why mandarin?? What not speak in our national language, Bahasa Malaysia?? My next question, does LCW know how to speak Bahasa?? Just find it odd thats all. LCW is representing Malaysia and mandarin is not our national language.

Hmmm ... I certainly dont see LD speaking dutch or TH in tamil during their respective interviews.

his studies not so good...but...language is not a problem...:p...

[Chu Liuxiang]

Just saw on Astro channel 823 (Oly8) a short feature of LCW. He was speaking mandarin when being interviewed. Hmmm ... why mandarin?? What not speak in our national language, Bahasa Malaysia?? My next question, does LCW know how to speak Bahasa?? Just find it odd thats all. LCW is representing Malaysia and mandarin is not our national language.

Hmmm ... I certainly dont see LD speaking dutch or TH in tamil during their respective interviews.
What's wrong with Mandarin? Why can't LCW speaks Mandarin? There are more than 1.4 billion people in this world speaking Mandarin. If someone asked you some questions in English, would you answer in Bahasa Malaysia or English?

[koo_fan]

talking about "lady" luck
what will happen IF....
LD vs LCW at final
XXF vs WMC at final too....? :D:p:D:p
Hey..it would be cool.forget robinho n messi final.I'll choose couple matches

[koo_fan]

his studies not so good...but...language is not a problem...:p...
Quetion is,whats wrong with speaking mandarin in an interview as he is a chinese?
He is a malaysian,but still a chinese malaysian.
Yeah..i do agree.language is not ultra important.
Bahasa stays as national language,Chong wei's interview has never changed that.

[Pemuda]

What's wrong with Mandarin? Why can't LCW speaks Mandarin? There are more than 1.4 billion people in this world speaking Mandarin. If someone asked you some questions in English, would you answer in Bahasa Malaysia or English?

Now, now dont jump the gun. There is nothing wrong with mandarin at all. It is just that LCW is a Malaysian. He was born in Malaysia. And the interview was conducted in Malaysia by Malaysians. And in Malaysia, though mandarin is spoken by the chinese community, the national language is Bahasa Malaysia. As such, it is not about the 1.4 billion people thingy. The national language of Malaysia is Bahasa Malaysia, period. And as a Malaysian, LCW should be able to speak the national language.

Based on on your argument, I will say English is considered an international language. How come your LD when interviewed by the Chinese press dont converse in English?

[Pemuda]

Quetion is,whats wrong with speaking mandarin in an interview as he is a chinese?
He is a malaysian,but still a chinese malaysian.
Yeah..i do agree.language is not ultra important.
Bahasa stays as national language,Chong wei's interview has never changed that.

Why Chinese Malaysian?? Why cant he be just Malaysian? Why make him a 2nd class citizen with that Chinese Malaysian thingy?

With such a thinking how can Malaysia really be Boleh when we are divided as Malay Malaysian, Chinese Malaysian, Indian Malaysian, Iban Malaysian, Sikh Malaysian and etc?? Cant we all just be Malaysians, period?

I certainly dont see the Americans calling themselves Irish American or Italian American.

[koo_fan]

Why Chinese Malaysian?? Why cant he be just Malaysian? Why make him a 2nd class citizen with that Chinese Malaysian thingy?

With such a thinking how can Malaysia really be Boleh when we are divided as Malay Malaysian, Chinese Malaysian, Indian Malaysian, Iban Malaysian, Sikh Malaysian and etc?? Cant we all just be Malaysians, period?

I certainly dont see the Americans calling themselves Irish American or Italian American.
Hey brother..thats how we are different from americans .They lived a americans.Full stop.
We are malay malaysians,chinese malaysians,indian malaysians.Pros an cons are there.
But thats how we live here in malaysia.

i got nothing to protest when Chong wei wanted to speak his language in an international interview

[X Ball]

In the same vein, why would a Malaysian barrack for other national players when this is the Olympics? Strange

[danielwong]

Maybe Pemuda is not a Malaysia citizen
or even avid badminton fan as he does not
know if CW can speak BM or not....
anyway CW can speak watever languages
he find fit and suitable for the interview and
the audiences...
we should not raise a big deal from this
hanky panky stuff...
malaysia boleh spirit is like , like to raise
hanky panky stuff to waste time...

[Pemuda]

Oh deary me, here we go again ... :o

What has barracking other national players gotta do with whether LCW is proficient in Bahasa or not?? :o

Hmmm ... in the same vein, I guess it is wrong for Malaysians to root for say the US or China basketball team, Aussie swimmers ;), Asafa Powell, Liu Xiang, Brazil's Ronaldinho or Argentina's Lionel Messi in the Olympics :rolleyes:. Medieval mentality.

[Oldhand]

Is Lee Chong Wei the flag-bearer for the Malaysian contingent?
If not, any idea who has been selected for that honour? :)

[Pemuda]

Hey brother..thats how we are different from americans .They lived a americans.Full stop.
We are malay malaysians,chinese malaysians,indian malaysians.Pros an cons are there.
But thats how we live here in malaysia.

i got nothing to protest when Chong wei wanted to speak his language in an international interview

I am sorry you are wrong. Please do not make any generalization that all of us are like you who segregate. I see all Malaysians as Malaysians first, period.

And dont get me wrong, I have nothing against LCW speaking mandarin or urdu. I am just wondering whether the lad is proficient in his bahasa or not thats all.

[huangkwokhau]

Why Chinese Malaysian?? Why cant he be just Malaysian? Why make him a 2nd class citizen with that Chinese Malaysian thingy?

With such a thinking how can Malaysia really be Boleh when we are divided as Malay Malaysian, Chinese Malaysian, Indian Malaysian, Iban Malaysian, Sikh Malaysian and etc?? Cant we all just be Malaysians, period?

I certainly dont see the Americans calling themselves Irish American or Italian American.
Actually we do...we call ourselves..asian american, african american, indian american, chinese american...in my case is indonesian american....the main language is Englsih...

I agree with you...like indonesian chinese,..if interviewed by Indonesians, we have to reply in Indonesians..to show our pride as Indonesian...eventhough we have many tribes here....

same thing in america....our national language is English......

[Pemuda]

Maybe Pemuda is not a Malaysia citizen
or even avid badminton fan as he does not
know if CW can speak BM or not....
anyway CW can speak watever languages
he find fit and suitable for the interview and
the audiences...
we should not raise a big deal from this
hanky panky stuff...
malaysia boleh spirit is like , like to raise
hanky panky stuff to waste time...

The above is the typical reaction of a Boleh fan.

All I did was questioned the fact whether LCW is proficient in Bahasa or not and suddenly I am hit with a "you are not a Malaysian citizen!" hammer. And by the way, it is Malaysian citizen not Malaysia citizen :rolleyes:.

[huangkwokhau]

I agree with Pemuda that LCW should conduct in bahasa malaysia.....to show he is a malaysian citizen....if he is interviewed b y Chinese, then it is okay to speak in Chinese...or in english by others..

[Oldhand]

Actually we do...we call ourselves..asian american, african american, indian american, chinese american...in my case is indonesian american....the main language is Englsih...

I agree with you...like indonesian chinese,..if interviewed by Indonesians, we have to reply in Indonesians..to show our pride as Indonesian...eventhough we have many tribes here....

same thing in america....our national language is English......

Marketing economies everywhere are obsessed with segregation.

It's something like ice-cream flavours... from the mundane vanilla, chocolate and strawberry to the exotic pearl-rings, blue-sky and rainbow glass and further on to the, er, yucky red-bean, curd-mash and durian, the ice-cream has never been so diverese.

Bluntly put, more the segregation, the more it sells ;)

I don't see how subscribe to this sort of categorisation will assist Lee Chong Wei's prospects or the rise of Malaysia Boleh :rolleyes:

[indra]

To be fair and neutral...next time all Malaysian players should use a body language only when interviewed...:D

I am afraid...when any Malaysian player speaks Malay with heavy Chinese accent, he/she will be criticised again " how come he/she speaks Chinese-accented Malay, and so on"

[Oldhand]

I agree with Pemuda that LCW should conduct in bahasa malaysia.....to show he is a malaysian citizen....if he is interviewed b y Chinese, then it is okay to speak in Chinese...or in english by others..

The important question here is:

Does Lee Chong Wei speak Bahasa Malaysia at all?
If he does, is he fluent enough in the language to communicate clearly? :)

For instance, Pullela Gopichand doesn't speak Hindi, India's biggest language.
He speaks in Telugu or English - because these are the languages that he can effectively communicate in.

[Pemuda]

The important question here is:

Does Lee Chong Wei speak Bahasa Malaysia at all?
If he does, is he fluent enough in the language to communicate clearly? :)

For instance, Pullela Gopichand doesn't speak Hindi, India's biggest language.
He speaks in Telugu or English - because these are the languages that he can effectively communicate in.

But Boss, LCW went to a government school like all of us and Bahasa was taught and spoken there.

Again, I am not against LCW using Mandarin or whatsoever, I am just wondering whether the lad is proficient in Bahasa or not.

[samuel882]

Suddenly we talk about LCW language skills eh?
FYI, that interview was conducted by a chinese TV show host in mandarain
Wasn't it strange for LCW to answer it in Bahasa since the interviewer ask him the question in Mandarain?
LCW can speak Malay, but not as fluent as WCH

[Pemuda]

Suddenly we talk about LCW language skills eh?
FYI, that interview was conducted by a chinese TV show host in mandarain
Wasn't it strange for LCW to answer it in Bahasa since the interviewer ask him the question in Mandarain?
LCW can speak Malay, but not as fluent as WCH

Astro channel 823 is not a chinese medium channel la. It is not Astro Wah Lai Toi.

Switch on your Astro, go to channel 823 and have a look.

[huangkwokhau]

Marketing economies everywhere are obsessed with segregation.

It's something like ice-cream flavours... from the mundane vanilla, chocolate and strawberry to the exotic pearl-rings, blue-sky and rainbow glass and further on to the, er, yucky red-bean, curd-mash and durian, the ice-cream has never been so diverese.

Bluntly put, more the segregation, the more it sells ;)

I don't see how subscribe to this sort of categorisation will assist Lee Chong Wei's prospects or the rise of Malaysia Boleh :rolleyes:
In USA, we have arguement about that since Miami, texas, suddenly everybody speaks Spanish....it is okay to speak spanish but they have to speak English especially if you are citizen of USA.......

[Oldhand]

Suddenly we talk about LCW language skills eh?
FYI, that interview was conducted by a chinese TV show host in mandarain
Wasn't it strange for LCW to answer it in Bahasa since the interviewer ask him the question in Mandarain?
LCW can speak Malay, but not as fluent as WCH

Isn't this the answer we are looking for? :)

[huangkwokhau]

in my opinion, you can speak any languages you want but you have to speak the national language..it is like I am a dutch citizen but I dont speak dutch..it is a bit weird....

[markchan]

I believe LCW can speak Bahasa Malaysia. and I also believe that it's the producers of the interview clip that wanted to conduct it in mandarin, they may have their own reasons, maybe LCW is more comfortable to speak in mandarin, maybe they wanted to show the diversity of our cultures?
I dun remember, but what language did our archer Cheng Su Chiang? spoke during his interview?

[samuel882]

Astro channel 823 is not a chinese medium channel la. It is not Astro Wah Lai Toi.

Switch on your Astro, go to channel 823 and have a look.
That interview ADS was cut from a mandarain TV show name :"Beijing, my dreams" . It appeared almost any channels in ASTRO , not just channel 823;)

[Pemuda]

That interview ADS was cut from a mandarain TV show name :"Beijing, my dreams" . It appeared almost any channels in ASTRO , not just channel 823;)

Ok, good the lad can speak mandarin. We can see he is more proficient in mandarin than bahasa.

[indra]

Ok, good the lad can speak mandarin. We can see he is more proficient in mandarin than bahasa.

The language proficiency can be an indicator of one's emotional attachment to the country / nation in which the language is spoken. Does it indicate that LCW's heart is for China?:D

[Pemuda]

The language proficiency can be an indicator of one's emotional attachment to the country / nation in which the language is spoken. Does it indicate that LCW's heart is for China?:D

No la, the lad is Malaysian 100%. He is just not proficient in Bahasa thats all.

[Oldhand]

The title of this thread is being challenged in these recent articles.
To read them, click here (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/2504394/Beijing-Olympics-Lee-Chong-Wei-bids-for-Malaysias-first-gold-medal.html) and here (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/13062008/3/lee-chong-wei-feeling-gold-medal-badminton-pressure.html) :rolleyes:

[X Ball]

The title of this thread is being challenged in these recent articles.
To read them, click here (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/2504394/Beijing-Olympics-Lee-Chong-Wei-bids-for-Malaysias-first-gold-medal.html) and here (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/13062008/3/lee-chong-wei-feeling-gold-medal-badminton-pressure.html) :rolleyes:

Yes the boy is taking it in his stride and that says a lot.

[Loh]

Talking about national language, Singapore faces a dilemma!

Singapore was born under rather unusual circumstances and tomorrow she will celebrate her 43rd birthday!

In our Constitution, our national language is Malay but this language is hardly used or understood by a great majority of the citizens and the general public.

The Malay community uses it extensively amongst themselves but not so for the Chinese and to a lesser extent, the Indians. When dealing with Malay vendors in the market place, non-Malays will try their best to rattle a few Malay words to communicate if English and Mandarin and other Chinese dialects are not understood.

Quite understandably, the Chinese prefer to study Chinese as their second or first language in the schools, as a result of which there remains hardly sufficient time to study Malay and other foreign languages since there are core subjects to be mastered.

Instead, English becomes the common "bonding" language and all students study this mostly as a first language. To a great extent, English has helped Singapore achieved a certain degree of social integration and propelled her to higher economic achievement. Indeed in the past and even till this day, Singapore has found that English does possess great economic value when dealing with the powerful West.

The pendulum might have shifted a bit to the East now, particularly to China because of her ascent as an economic power and now Chinese has found favour even with the West. Surprising that as the world's second largest economy, Japan has not been able to make as great an impact as China and the Japanese language remains as foreign as ever to most people.

I suppose during the time of Singapore's independence in 1965, political circumstances were very different and Singapore did not want to cause further turbulence in an environment where race, language and religion were sacrosant and they remain to be so today. It could be a political expediency of Singapore's leaders then to choose Malay as the national language to avoid further misunderstandings and unnecessary confrontations.

But Malay continued to play a part in our National Service for young Singaporeans and permanent residents since all military commands are executed in Malay instead of English. ;)

Recently there was much discussion in the studying of languages and apart from the other major foreign languages, Malay was mentioned as one, so as to better understand the cultures of our neighbours. And for those who wish to pursue this language, the TV programmes in Malay should offer an outlet.

To most in Singapore, English will remain the most dominant language especially for business. :)

[george@chongwei]

whats wrong with lee chong wei language skill with this thread???
its not a matter at all..as long as he plays his best and play for malaysia in the olyimpic and if win the gold medal, he will make Malaysia proud..
language doesnt make a big deal at all..

[Jagdpanther]

He plays badminton under Malaysian flag.
And if he wins the 2008 OG (I repeat: IF :p), he'll sing Negaraku, which fully uses Bahasa.
Is that not enough for you?

I think everyone has his/her own way to show his/her patriotism.

Oh, but, Mr. George, language does matter.
Bahasa menunjukkan bangsa, they say.;)

[george@chongwei]

Just saw on Astro channel 823 (Oly8) a short feature of LCW. He was speaking mandarin when being interviewed. Hmmm ... why mandarin?? What not speak in our national language, Bahasa Malaysia?? My next question, does LCW know how to speak Bahasa?? Just find it odd thats all. LCW is representing Malaysia and mandarin is not our national language.

Hmmm ... I certainly dont see LD speaking dutch or TH in tamil during their respective interviews.
if like that, then why not u just complain to astro????
complain to them la.
u post here still doesnt make a difference right?

[Pemuda]

whats wrong with lee chong wei language skill with this thread???
its not a matter at all..as long as he plays his best and play for malaysia in the olyimpic and if win the gold medal, he will make Malaysia proud..
language doesnt make a big deal at all..

Nothing wrong if LCW is not proficient in Bahasa. Just that maybe, he may want to brush it up a little just in case he win that gold so that he may sing Negaraku clearly.

As for your 'language doesnt make a big deal at all' thingy, tell you what, when you leave school/college and at your first job interview, try telling that to the interviewer.

[Pemuda]

if like that, then why not u just complain to astro????
complain to them la.
u post here still doesnt make a difference right?

I believe this is a forum and I am entitled as you to post my thoughts.

[ctjcad]

..LCW just wanted to practice his mandarian prior to the Olympics in Beijing...i mean, we don't want to see him reply in Bahasa when a Chinese fan asks him for a reply, do we??... ;)

[X Ball]

..LCW just wanted to practice his mandarian prior to the Olympics in Beijing...i mean, we don't want to see him reply in Bahasa when a Chinese fan asks him for a reply, do we??... ;)


That is a no brainer for most of us.

[Chu Liuxiang]

Now, now dont jump the gun. There is nothing wrong with mandarin at all. It is just that LCW is a Malaysian. He was born in Malaysia. And the interview was conducted in Malaysia by Malaysians. And in Malaysia, though mandarin is spoken by the chinese community, the national language is Bahasa Malaysia. As such, it is not about the 1.4 billion people thingy. The national language of Malaysia is Bahasa Malaysia, period. And as a Malaysian, LCW should be able to speak the national language.

Based on on your argument, I will say English is considered an international language. How come your LD when interviewed by the Chinese press dont converse in English?

First of all, I don't know if Misbun speaks Mandarin, if Misbun can't speak mandarin, then LCW should be communicating in English or Bahasa Malaysia with his coach. So, beside Mandarin, LCW speaks English or Bahasa Malaysia or both if he wants to communicate with his coach, Misbun. So, maybe you know better if LCW is able to speak his national language.

Lin Dan speaks Mandarin when he was interviewed by the Chinese Press because Chinese Press asked LD in mandarin and LD answer them in Mandarin.

[danielwong]

Just saw on Astro channel 823 (Oly8) a short feature of LCW. He was speaking mandarin when being interviewed. Hmmm ... why mandarin?? What not speak in our national language, Bahasa Malaysia?? My next question, does LCW know how to speak Bahasa?? Just find it odd thats all. LCW is representing Malaysia and mandarin is not our national language.

Hmmm ... I certainly dont see LD speaking dutch or TH in tamil during their respective interviews.


Very good Pemuda, now ur claiming whether CW is proficient in Bahasa
or not while above statement stated ur doubt whether he can speak bahasa..
please make ur point clear....if ur claim of his proficiency, i have nothing
to argue...but if you doubt his knowledge of Bahasa at all...maybe u should
doubt ur citizenship....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Pemuda]

First of all, I don't know if Misbun speaks Mandarin, if Misbun can't speak mandarin, then LCW should be communicating in English or Bahasa Malaysia with his coach. So, beside Mandarin, LCW speaks English or Bahasa Malaysia or both if he wants to communicate with his coach, Misbun. So, maybe you know better if LCW is able to speak his national language.

Lin Dan speaks Mandarin when he was interviewed by the Chinese Press because Chinese Press asked LD in mandarin and LD answer them in Mandarin.

It is not about whether Misbun know how to speak mandarin or not. The point is LCW is a Malaysian and as a Malaysian, he should be able to speak Bahasa.

[Pemuda]

Very good Pemuda, now ur claiming whether CW is proficient in Bahasa
or not while above statement stated ur doubt whether he can speak bahasa..
please make ur point clear....if ur claim of his proficiency, i have nothing
to argue...but if you doubt his knowledge of Bahasa at all...maybe u should
doubt ur citizenship....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

ahhh ... you are back.

Sorry I cant help you if you find it hard to understand.

Me doubting my citizenship if I doubt LCW knowledge of Bahasa?? :o What are you trying to say here? If you are talking about my citizenship, well the last time I check, my great, great grandparents were all born in Malaya. How about yourself?

[sirjoe1]

What's wrong with Mandarin? Why can't LCW speaks Mandarin? There are more than 1.4 billion people in this world speaking Mandarin. If someone asked you some questions in English, would you answer in Bahasa Malaysia or English?

Neither, i will reply in french or gibberish xD jk xP =D

[sirjoe1]

I agree with Pemuda that LCW should conduct in bahasa malaysia.....to show he is a malaysian citizen....if he is interviewed b y Chinese, then it is okay to speak in Chinese...or in english by others..

I think he believed he couldnt say what he really wanted to say proficiently enough in the malay language, that's why he decided to conduct in English ...

[danielwong]

ahhh ... you are back.

Sorry I cant help you if you find it hard to understand.

Me doubting my citizenship if I doubt LCW knowledge of Bahasa?? :o What are you trying to say here? If you are talking about my citizenship, well the last time I check, my great, great grandparents were all born in Malaya. How about yourself?


just forget abt it...
cause what i wanna say is that all pure malaysian
should know CW can speak Bahasa, caused we watch
countless TV interviews that CW is speaking Bahasa...
unless your are not Malaysian, then is understandable u dunno he is
speaking Bahasa...
if u question his proficiently, then i totally agreed with u..
just to clear my point from ur initial 1st question...
as for me? I am pure Malaysian that support our countrymen
like others here even when they r down n out...

[Pemuda]

just forget abt it...
cause what i wanna say is that all pure malaysian
should know CW can speak Bahasa, caused we watch
countless TV interviews that CW is speaking Bahasa...
unless your are not Malaysian, then is understandable u dunno he is
speaking Bahasa...
if u question his proficiently, then i totally agreed with u..
just to clear my point from ur initial 1st question...
as for me? I am pure Malaysian that support our countrymen
like others here even when they r down n out...

In the first place there is no such thing as a 'pure Malaysian'. You dont be a 'pure Malaysian' simply by merely supporting Malaysian athletes.

[ants]

Since when this thread is about LCW speaking Bahasa. As a personal friend... he does speak Bahasa.

[Pemuda]

Was with them during the training sessions. LCW was training well. His sparring partners was giving him a hard time. During one of the session break, one of the jr can't recall him name, gave an inspirational speech to LCW and Mew Choo. Everyone is working hard for them.
Same goes to Choon Han and the doubles Department. All the sparring partners gave no mercy to them during the sessions.

Misbun is calm and look cool at the moment. He even asked me to give some pointers for him to coach LCW and feedback on how LCW did in the training sessions. HAhahah... i jokingly told him.. if i start giving pointers, you better give up your job. Of course i'm in the least position to give any pointers. Well there was some fun during the sessions too.

You involved or part of the BAM set up?

[Pemuda]

Is it a crime to enquire whether LCW is able to converse in our national language?

[ants]

Is it a crime to enquire whether LCW is able to converse in our national language?

I don't think its a crime. Personally i think even my bahasa is worse than LCW's hehehe

[Pemuda]

I don't think its a crime. Personally i think even my bahasa is worse than LCW's hehehe

Although bahasa is my mother tongue, my command of it is pretty average. So, no problem la, as long as can understand and all.

Most important is for LCW is to carry that Malaysian flag high in Beijing.

[danielwong]

Although bahasa is my mother tongue, my command of it is pretty average. So, no problem la, as long as can understand and all.

Most important is for LCW is to carry that Malaysian flag high in Beijing.


u made ur point, everybody share ur point as welll
case close.....:D:D:D:D

[koo_fan]

I am sorry you are wrong. Please do not make any generalization that all of us are like you who segregate. I see all Malaysians as Malaysians first, period.

And dont get me wrong, I have nothing against LCW speaking mandarin or urdu. I am just wondering whether the lad is proficient in his bahasa or not thats all.

I,too am sorry because u are wrong.We do live as different races with significant identity by each.The concept of nationality,we have diferent perception here.

People knew he speak mandarin because he is chinese.He can speak malay too because he is malaysian.Its just matter of choices.Better than people who speak bahasa with no pride.
Even when he win in olympic,do speak mandarin,Chong wei.It is still one of our bahasa in malaysia.

or else,kita tamatkan sahaja sekolah vernakular di malaysia,Pemuda.Kita rujuk pada kata-kata anda.

[danielwong]

I,too am sorry because u are wrong.We do live as different races with significant identity by each.The concept of nationality,we have diferent perception here.

People knew he speak mandarin because he is chinese.He can speak malay too because he is malaysian.Its just matter of choices.Better than people who speak bahasa with no pride.
Even when he win in olympic,do speak mandarin,Chong wei.It is still one of our bahasa in malaysia.

or else,kita tamatkan sahaja sekolah vernakular di malaysia,Pemuda.Kita rujuk pada kata-kata anda.


case close long-long time!!!:D:D:D

[koo_fan]

case close long-long time!!!:D:D:D


An expression of dissapointment.for everything.From kkk to anything Pemuda had said.
Will u let me expressed everything ?