Zhang Ning is going for WS, but not Zhu Lin. It's official decision.( I think it's LYB's decision) Xie Xing-Fang, Lu Lan and Zhang Ning will representing for China in WS in 2008 Beijing Olympic games
I think Zhu Lin has better chance to win, since she is much younger and Zhang Ning is 33 years old now.
everybody, any comment ?

like XXF before...winning WC did not get her to OG...now it is ZL's turn...sigh!

I think ZL has a better chance than ZN.

haiz..zhu lin is not qualified to the OG08:(

like XXF before...winning WC did not get her to OG...now it is ZL's turn...sigh!

I think ZL has a better chance than ZN.
XXF won WC after ZN returned home with OG04 crown, not before OG04

though I am superfan of ZN, but I think that ZL should go. ZN is famous with her fighting spirit and strong mental on court. ZL, LL and even XXF tumble occasionally due to pressure...not as stable as ZN. BUT, AGE DOES MATTER...

agree with Louisa.
It's a wrong decision to send Zhang Ning instead of Zhu Lin. :crying:
Who is in charge of this ???:mad:

agree with Louisa.
It's a wrong decision to send Zhang Ning instead of Zhu Lin. :crying:
Who is in charge of this ???:mad:
you know who....:D ...........

i still think ZN will win a medal from this OG... even though it is not a gold... :)

ZN still have the chance. She will go for the last hurrah.

Zhang Ning is going for WS, but not Zhu Lin. It's official decision.( I think it's LYB's decision) Xie Xing-Fang, Lu Lan and Zhang Ning will representing for China in WS in 2008 Beijing Olympic games
I think Zhu Lin has better chance to win, since she is much younger and Zhang Ning is 33 years old now.
everybody, any comment ?
just woke up?
this decision are made long long time ago..........;)
as ants said, ZN is still a good contender.

Would you put ZN's chance of defending her olympic crown as greater than TH's though?

Both ZN and TH have equal chance of defending their Gold. Still water runs deep. You don't know what they are doing right now.

just woke up?
this decision are made long long time ago..........;)
as ants said, ZN is still a good contender.


No, the list just out.
Actually it's midnight here in Boston around 2am. I need to go sleep now.
Anybody have a chance to translate these 2 articles to drifit?

Article #1:
北京时间7月18日，全球最大的体育赌博公司，英国的bwin为奥运会羽毛球比赛开出夺冠赔率。由于中国队 在羽毛球五个单项上高手众多，他们开出的这个最新夺冠赔率实际上就是提前预测了国羽的奥运参赛名单。在这个 名单里，国羽女单三号是卢兰 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=227)，而2007年世锦赛 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/Article/a/200508/Article_20050811085605.html)女单冠军朱琳 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=179)则榜上无名。另外，男双、混双双栖好手谢中博 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=183)在这个名单里只参加混双的比赛。不过从别的方面我们也可以看出 ，这家赌博公司开出的这张赔率单也带有很明显的主观情绪。

Article #2:
羽毛球队上报奥运名单 卫冕冠军张宁入围朱琳无缘

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　　昨天下午，记者从有关方面了解到，中国羽毛球队已经将奥运会参赛名单上报给国家体育总局，在此前被认为 存在最大变数的女子单打项目上，上届奥运会女单冠军张宁 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=28)成功入选，而去年世锦赛 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/Article/a/200508/Article_20050811085605.html)女单冠军朱琳 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=179)则遗憾地在最后时刻出局。
　　伤病困扰一度险些出局
　　至少在一年前，没有人认为张宁参加奥运会是个问题。但是自从去年5月夺得新加坡公开赛冠军之后，严重的 伤病让张宁长期无法坚持系统训练，体能、竞技状态都不是十分理想。甚至因此缺席了奥运会前的最后一次重要比 赛5月份的尤伯杯。6月的印尼公开赛，张宁不敌东道主选手尤利安蒂无缘决赛。在7月17日最新的羽毛球选手 世界排名中，张宁 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=28)因为久疏战阵，排名已经跌倒了世界第七。而两名竞争对手卢兰 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=227)、朱琳 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=179)分别排名第二、第三。
　　在半个月前，国家羽毛球队专家组成员、辽宁女子羽毛球队主教练王斌，在接受记者采访时也为张宁能否参加 奥运会的前景表示出了深深的担忧：“如果在半个月内没有积极的变化，张宁 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=28)真的悬了！”
　　与张宁的低迷比起来，两名竞争对手却表现得十分抢眼。世锦赛 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/Article/a/200508/Article_20050811085605.html)冠军朱琳 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=179)在6月份的印尼公开赛上夺冠，战胜的对手恰恰是在半决赛中淘汰 张宁 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=28)的尤利安蒂。卢兰 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=227)则在最近的15站积分赛上四度跻身决赛，表现稳定。
　　在7月21日最后的名单公布前，张宁 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=28)是在竞争中最不被看好的一个。
　　顽强精神赢得卫冕机会
　　张宁的伤病，主要是大腿和脚踝严重的骨关节病。这样的伤病一般需要静养，但是由于还要坚持训练，张宁的 伤病始终处于反复发作中。而且因为年龄偏大，张宁的身体状态也不理想，经常感冒发烧。由于没有训练、体能作 保证，张宁速度加变化的特点在比赛中很难发挥出来，直接影响了张宁 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=28)的成绩。
　　但是，在逆境中的张宁没有放弃自己追逐奥运梦想的努力。为在奥运会前恢复状态，在每一堂训练课中，张宁 都付出百分之百的努力。在距离奥运会之前不过19天的时候，张宁的竞技状态奇迹般地有了大幅度回升。在经过 再三权衡后，考虑到张宁的经验，中国羽毛球队在最后时刻决定派出张宁 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=28)、谢杏芳 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=41)、卢兰 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=227)三人出战奥运会羽毛球女单比赛，朱琳 (http://www.badmintoncn.com/al/star_view.asp?id=179)作为替补。昨天，这一名单已经上报给国家体育总局。

Poor Zhu Lin, her Wolrd Champ title can't guarantee to gain Olympic berth. Zhu Lin must work very hard to keep her chance alive at London 2012...

She will be 28 in 2012 , and her teammates just like wanglin , WYH, jiaojiao and LULAN will be her competitors . another difficult 4 years :o

ZL is world top 5 and wont get to compete cause of Olympic rules, who is match/medal/tournament fixing now... I don't see the players federation crying about this.

Good chance for Tine Rasmussen. Her biggest obstacle is Lu Lan.

ZL is world top 5 and wont get to compete cause of Olympic rules, who is match/medal/tournament fixing now... I don't see the players federation crying about this.

It's the Olympic rules which encourage participation. I think for any event (not just badminton), the most entries from any country is three.

Coaches don't have the heart to say no to veterans who still want a last shot for glory even when indications are they are fast going downhill.The thought they may just go out in shame and at the expense of a golden exposure opportunity for a younger, more deserving teammate may or may not have crossed their minds.
Well, are ZN and JE/ML deserving of their retirement gift? We shall see.

it is really a 50/50 deal. ZN is experienced but form dipped lately. ZL form is always only 80% but young and less experienced.

only time will tell if the Chinese coaching staff made the right decision.

it is really a 50/50 deal. ZN is experienced but form dipped lately. ZL form is always only 80% but young and less experienced.

only time will tell if the Chinese coaching staff made the right decision.

Staff?
What staff?
Since when has any of this been a group decision? :rolleyes:

Staff?
What staff?
Since when has any of this been a group decision? :rolleyes:

It is a group decision mind you.. the Top Group decision.

It seems unfair to ZL. But what we don't know is ZN's form after the Indonesia Open.

Well, I hope ZN can do well in Beijing.

It is a group decision mind you.. the Top Group decision.

The Group of One

I thought Zhu Lin should be chosen ahead of Zhang Ning as the latter has not been performing well for the last one year but then again, WS is so unpredictable nowadays. I won't be surprised if early exits of the duo, Xie and Zhang during Asian Games 2006 take place again on the Olympic stage.

Poor Zhu Lin, her Wolrd Champ title can't guarantee to gain Olympic berth. Zhu Lin must work very hard to keep her chance alive at London 2012...

actually...the opponent zhu lin defeat in that wc is not very top...

Who is ZL beaten in WC? poor her,. Last turnament in IO,. Showing that both of them lack of stamina.. But i still prefer ZL since in WS many players with super stamina such as rasmussen, WMC, or maria kristin?? Hahaha
no matter who is chna plyers goin to OG. The medal still goin to them..

Who is ZL beaten in WC? poor her,. Last turnament in IO,. Showing that both of them lack of stamina.. But i still prefer ZL since in WS many players with super stamina such as rasmussen, WMC, or maria kristin?? Hahaha
no matter who is chna plyers goin to OG. The medal still goin to them..

honestly...i just remember she beat wmc...hmm...nope china will not win this gold medal

Gossips that I heard that ZL may get married next year to NW...that could let LYB send ZN instead of ZL...if it is true...ZL will be 26 or 27 she will be eligible to represent HKG.

Zhang Ning is going for WS, but not Zhu Lin. It's official decision.( I think it's LYB's decision) Xie Xing-Fang, Lu Lan and Zhang Ning will representing for China in WS in 2008 Beijing Olympic games
I think Zhu Lin has better chance to win, since she is much younger and Zhang Ning is 33 years old now.
everybody, any comment ?personally. i should think the champion should have a chance to defend his/her title.

Gossips that I heard that ZL may get married next year to NW...that could let LYB send ZN instead of ZL...if it is true...ZL will be 26 or 27 she will be eligible to represent HKG.

OO , she will get married :rolleyes: next year.
i know they are couple but i don"t know their relationship is as stable as to marry so soon . maybe they have been dating for a long period of time :o

OO , she will get married :rolleyes: next year.
i know they are couple but i don"t know their relationship is as stable as to marry so soon . maybe they have been dating for a long period of time :o

By the way who is NW?

By the way who is NW?
NG is the shortform name of a hong kong mens single player, Ng Wei:)

NG is the shortform name of a hong kong mens single player, Ng Wei:)

Wo.... I'm really outdated. Thanks for updating me :D

ZL is too unfit, and lacks the power game that the other 3 have.
Who in their right minds would think just because the decision to play ZN instead of ZL will jeoporadise China's chances of gold? XXF alone is enough to beat everyone, while Lu Lan is super superb and can beat anyone as well.

ZL is too unfit, and lacks the power game that the other 3 have.
Who in their right minds would think just because the decision to play ZN instead of ZL will jeoporadise China's chances of gold? XXF alone is enough to beat everyone, while Lu Lan is super superb and can beat anyone as well.

I Would Say That Zhu Lin Lacks Stamina But She Doesn't Lack Power...

I Would Say That Zhu Lin Lacks Stamina But She Doesn't Lack Power...
actually both of them lack of stamina.....I guess ZN's mentality is better eventhough I prefer ZL to OG...

actually both of them lack of stamina.....I guess ZN's mentality is better eventhough I prefer ZL to OG...



I Prefer Zhang Ning And Im glad Shes Going..But I Have To Say .. I Think Zhu Lin Had A Better Chance:cool:

LYB learnt from 2004 OG mistake, he put in youth (BCL) over experienced (2003 WC) Xia Z. ZN can build up stamina just for this OG, it is do-able. Experience and mental strength which ZL lacks, takes longer. I'm sure LYB have gotten commitment from ZN to rebuild her stamina before making his final choice. ZN knows her chances. She won't take up space just for personal satisfaction of being in 08 OG.

I think this is good decision for the entire Chinese team, to have a veteran like ZN playing along side, to lead by example. It's also nice to show that the coaching staff is showing compassion towards the aging players which may not be able to perform as well as they used to. No, it does not make the decision any easier for ZL to swallow I guess, but hopefully she will have another chance in London.

It's the Olympic rules which encourage participation. I think for any event (not just badminton), the most entries from any country is three.

I know this rule applies to all events and participation is an important olympic ideal. But they can always have a bigger draw, qualifying rounds.

But when a world champ and legitimate gold medal contender sits in favour of more participation, that is a slap in the face of other supposed olympic values, i.e. achievement through competition.

Whoever wins the WS now won't be able to say with much certainty that they would have won if ZL (or any other 1 of 4 that could have been left out) had been allowed to compete as any of them are substantial favourites for the gold. That just stinks of something rotten.

Staff?
What staff?
Since when has any of this been a group decision? :rolleyes:

And???

Even if there is only one staff, he has been making good decisions on behalf of the Chinese team for the past 10 years at least. I don't see any other countries in this world has better STAFF(s) than China.

Ppl get upset only because their personal hatred toward the STAFF. :rolleyes:

Help zhu lin...demonstrations against lyb

I know this rule applies to all events and participation is an important olympic ideal. But they can always have a bigger draw, qualifying rounds.

But when a world champ and legitimate gold medal contender sits in favour of more participation, that is a slap in the face of other supposed olympic values, i.e. achievement through competition.

Whoever wins the WS now won't be able to say with much certainty that they would have won if ZL (or any other 1 of 4 that could have been left out) had been allowed to compete as any of them are substantial favourites for the gold. That just stinks of something rotten.
how about Australian/US swimmers, they can easily beat the rest of the world but IOC allows max 2 only...is that fair too?like Tyson gay could not even compete in 200 m as he lost to his teammates but he can easily beat the rest of non US..
If they can accept the rule of IOC, why Badminton cant accept it..well too bad...lif is not really fair.

Your argument is that it applies to everyone, live with it.

That's a terribly defeatist way of living life when the changes I'm suggesting are not pipedreams (one qualifying round? bigger draw?) beyond anyone's control.

The whole point of the Olympics is to make things fair-er for everyone, leading by example.

Your argument is that it applies to everyone, live with it.

That's a terribly defeatist way of living life when the changes I'm suggesting are not pipedreams (one qualifying round? bigger draw?) beyond anyone's control.

The whole point of the Olympics is to make things fair-er for everyone, leading by example.even tho i dont like it either but that's how the OG are marketed by the old boys club of IOC, a private corporation which money and politicing reign supreme. I always had said Opens are the best way rank individual skills. OG is high profile because of superb marketing aiming at politicans and multinationals, not athletes.

Help zhu lin...demonstrations against lyb
it's should't come as a surprise to ZL. ZN remain in the team even tho her performance was laggard since 2006. I think she has 08 OG in her mind or else she would have retired gracefully after 2005. If this old horse is willing to give her last best effort, she deserve the chance. In the OG, mental focus and experience worth alot. LYB remembered what happend in 04 athen when he excluded Xia Z. from the game. I'm not saying ZL doesn't deserve it but i think LYB had weighed in all angles and chosed what he think is the best chance against tine, wmc, xu, etc

it's should't come as a surprise to ZL. ZN remain in the team even tho her performance was laggard since 2006. I think she has 08 OG in her mind or else she would have retired gracefully after 2005. If this old horse is willing to give her last best effort, she deserve the chance. In the OG, mental focus and experience worth alot. LYB remembered what happend in 04 athen when he excluded Xia Z. from the game. I'm not saying ZL doesn't deserve it but i think LYB had weighed in all angles and chosed what he think is the best chance against tine, wmc, xu, etc
good say................:)

good say................:)i'm not done yet:D

ZN had demonstrated extraordinary performance even after 04 OG.
When she is prepared she is #1 in the china team.

2007 aviva open.
xxf vs zn even 1-1 close set.
in the 3rd set, ZN beat XXF 21-3 for the title

2006 Japan open
xxf vs zn even 1-1 close set.
in the 3rd set, ZN outlasted XXF in the famous 30-29 win for the title

In lyb's eyes, the best of ZN after 2004 is still better than the best of ZL in 2007 and 2008. If ZN has no injury and building up stamina well toward 8/08, the choice is obvious.

if u ask me I think Lu Lan should be dropped instead. She is not convincing at all, I think she is too young and lacking in experience to win big titles. Well nobody know what goes on in LYB's head hehe

ZN's participation, ....Good news fro Indonesia then...

ZN will be the first victim of Maria....it will be a great shock to China....
Defeating ZN will be the opening step of "destroying" the mighty China. Maria and Tine can do that...so defeat the most senior at early rounds and the rest will be a matter of time...:D

haiz..poor zhu lin!!:(:(
http://www.badzine.info/content/view/1192/

if u ask me I think Lu Lan should be dropped instead. She is not convincing at all, I think she is too young and lacking in experience to win big titles. Well nobody know what goes on in LYB's head hehe
Hm..Lu Lan is the most stable player among 4 of them..3 times runner up this year are not easy...It will be crazy if LYB drops Lu Lan....

Hm..Lu Lan is the most stable player among 4 of them..3 times runner up this year are not easy...It will be crazy if LYB drops Lu Lan....
I know she had produced consistent results, but to me she appears to crack under pressure.. She is still lacking in the killing instinct.. Compared to Zhu Lin I think she is not a strong attacker and her play is not very consistent.. Anyway whatever it is.. LYB is the ultimate decider

u sure is a good news foe indonesia?she do not show up in most of the matches this few months..mayb she has a very good practice that period..she is an experienced player anyway..

ZN's participation, ....Good news fro Indonesia then...

ZN will be the first victim of Maria....it will be a great shock to China....
Defeating ZN will be the opening step of "destroying" the mighty China. Maria and Tine can do that...so defeat the most senior at early rounds and the rest will be a matter of time...:D
Zhang ning was picked by LYb.I doubt if u would want to doubt the credibility of Lyb.
we are unsure of what is gonna happen.Maybe just another 'strategy' from lyb.
But,im excited enough to wait for that suprise.
Ur statement made it look so easy and simple.

One more thing,zhang ning proved herself after so many years.Of course she doesnt want to leave us with a dissapointing appearence in olympic.In HER own Motherland.

LYB is the ultimate decider
he also has boss to report to.......
dont just put all the blame to him

I know she had produced consistent results, but to me she appears to crack under pressure.. She is still lacking in the killing instinct.. Compared to Zhu Lin I think she is not a strong attacker and her play is not very consistent.. Anyway whatever it is.. LYB is the ultimate decider

Lu Lan to me is not going to be the gold medalist. her role as part of the team is to eliminate as many non-China competitor as possible. this way her consistency will payoff and solidifies her inclusion in the Olympics lineup.

Lu Lan to me is not going to be the gold medalist. her role as part of the team is to eliminate as many non-China competitor as possible. this way her consistency will payoff and solidifies her inclusion in the Olympics lineup.
for me, ZN serves as the eliminator for her team mates and she will be the source of encouragement and motivation for her team mates. XXF, LL and ZL are good, but lack of charisma of which ZN possesses.

I prefer ZN to retire gracefully before OG, but seems that the team can't let her go. Well, this time, I will give my full support to WMC & Tine...but, if ZN is in the final against non of WMC & Tine, for sure, I will support ZN...:D afterall, she is the GREAT ZN...

agree..seldom see woman still wana play a big game before retire..is a good fighting spirit..

reports from China says that the ultimate list has not been submitted and decided, and even LYB himself says the final selection is going out to BWF on the 23rd, which is today China time. the team will have an unveiling event on the 25th.

so there is still hope for Zhu Lin, but even herself thinks that her chances is quite slim, in her blog, she signature has recently been changed to:

"nothing is important anymore."

..to me, personally, although ZN is not the favorite going in to win the WS Gold, the way i see ZN's last Olympic appearance is reminiscent to that of Gong Ruina's last OG appearance in 2004.
Yes, there could be a bit of "politicking" in the decision (between her and ZL), but more so, her performance in the qualifying tourneys solidified her position. And i think, if ZN is healthy enough and ready to go, she deserves to go and defend her WS title.:cool:

ZN's participation, ....Good news fro Indonesia then...

ZN will be the first victim of Maria....it will be a great shock to China....
Defeating ZN will be the opening step of "destroying" the mighty China. Maria and Tine can do that...so defeat the most senior at early rounds and the rest will be a matter of time...:D

ya...i second ur post...^^...

u sure is a good news foe indonesia?she do not show up in most of the matches this few months..mayb she has a very good practice that period..she is an experienced player anyway..

if u apply this to TH,i believe...but zn...no...

for me, ZN serves as the eliminator for her team mates and she will be the source of encouragement and motivation for her team mates. XXF, LL and ZL are good, but lack of charisma of which ZN possesses.

I prefer ZN to retire gracefully before OG, but seems that the team can't let her go. Well, this time, I will give my full support to WMC & Tine...but, if ZN is in the final against non of WMC & Tine, for sure, I will support ZN...:D afterall, she is the GREAT ZN...

i will support wmc or tine...haha

I know she had produced consistent results, but to me she appears to crack under pressure.. She is still lacking in the killing instinct.. Compared to Zhu Lin I think she is not a strong attacker and her play is not very consistent.. Anyway whatever it is.. LYB is the ultimate decider
Not as strong attacker as Zhu Lin???!! You serious? I'd say Lu Lan has some phenomenal attacking shots from the matches I've seen her play since the Korean Open where she lost to Zhou Mi (I think) and also her netplay is very consistent and good.
Zhu Lin as can be seen in her match against Maria in IO08... Lacks the killer hits to finish Maria on many favourable occasions. I believe in that match Maria lost the match due to her mistakes and also her lack of fitness, if ZL lost the first set of that match I think she wouldn't have won the secnd with the way she was playing. LL or XXF certainly wouldn't have let it go into 3rd set when they hold advantage unlike ZL.
Her mentality is always stable like the way she totally destroyed WMC after lagging behind 16-9 or something. She is a player that can't be written off IMO.

ZN's participation, ....Good news fro Indonesia then...

ZN will be the first victim of Maria....it will be a great shock to China....
Defeating ZN will be the opening step of "destroying" the mighty China. Maria and Tine can do that...so defeat the most senior at early rounds and the rest will be a matter of time...:D
In your dreams :cool:.
Watch Tine defeat Maria in the early rounds (If the draw permits)

In your dreams :cool:.
Watch Tine defeat Maria in the early rounds (If the draw permits)

erm...ina ws will be the serious force in next two years...

erm...ina ws will be the serious force in next two years...
Thats good news for competitive badminton, can't let the WS titles always be dominated by Non-South-East Asian countries like China, South Korea and Chinese Hong Kong. Or by ex-China players from Netherlands, Germany.
Gotta have more pure-breds like Tine Rasmussen and WMC.

Thats good news for competitive badminton, can't let the WS titles always be dominated by Non-South-East Asian countries like China, South Korea and Chinese Hong Kong. Or by ex-China players from Netherlands, Germany.
Gotta have more pure-breds like Tine Rasmussen and WMC.

haha...ya...maybe tailand also will become better...but for me...chinese taipei is become stronger and stronger...

In your dreams :cool:.
Watch Tine defeat Maria in the early rounds (If the draw permits)

If Tine vs Maria, of course Maria will prevail....then who's the next victim?:D

If Tine vs Maria, of course Maria will prevail....then who's the next victim?:D
of course zhang ning:p

like an article in chinadaily.com.cn about paddler Ma Long,,,
they had a simmiliar story...

that article tittle is : Maybe next time for Paddler Ma Long...
reported that even Ma Long has a great performance lately,, he's not choosen to play at this year olympics,,,
Ma Long beat his other teammate include senior Wang liqin, and paddler from another country to won few tournaments on the last month when his other teammate lost to other players.
but still the decission maker choose Wang Liqin as he is more experience...

it's not happen in badminton only,,, so Zhu Lin should not sad...

MAYBE NEXT TIME ZHU LIN

like an article in chinadaily.com.cn about paddler Ma Long,,,
they had a simmiliar story...

that article tittle is : Maybe next time for Paddler Ma Long...
reported that even Ma Long has a great performance lately,, he's not choosen to play at this year olympics,,,
Ma Long beat his other teammate include senior Wang liqin, and paddler from another country to won few tournaments on the last month when his other teammate lost to other players.
but still the decission maker choose Wang Liqin as he is more experience...

it's not happen in badminton only,,, so Zhu Lin should not sad...

MAYBE NEXT TIME ZHU LIN
But time is not with Zhu Lin, Ma Long is only 19 years old, Zhu Lin is 25.

he also has boss to report to.......
dont just put all the blame to him
but he is the china badminton head coach!!:rolleyes:
so no matter what happen, he is going to be responsible for all these.
remember what happen to YKH? during the WC07.:confused:

but he is the china badminton head coach!!:rolleyes:
so no matter what happen, he is going to be responsible for all these.
remember what happen to YKH? during the WC07.:confused:
But george,i always believe lyb has a different way to face the consequences of his actions.differently from ykh.In other words,better than our head coach.

Im bored with his press statements.
If kicking out zakry/fairuz was proved to be a mistake.Im going to forgive the whole team if they just admit that mistake in any press conference.Do not twist ur words.

But time is not with Zhu Lin, Ma Long is only 19 years old, Zhu Lin is 25.
ZHU LIN is 24 and for the next olympic she'll be just 28...
ZHANG NING won her gold in 29 isn't??
and look now ZHANG NING hunt for her second olympic gold...

so ,, logically ZHU LIN still have a chance for 2 next olympics..

MAYBE next time ZHU LIN

ZHU LIN is 24 and for the next olympic she'll be just 28...
ZHANG NING won her gold in 29 isn't??
and look now ZHANG NING hunt for her second olympic gold...

so ,, logically ZHU LIN still have a chance for 2 next olympics..

MAYBE next time ZHU LIN
But in my humble opinion, Zhu Lin is no where near the class of Zhang Ning in her prime who was a absolutely brilliant player.

But in my humble opinion, Zhu Lin is no where near the class of Zhang Ning in her prime who was a absolutely brilliant player.
She may end up in to represent HKG.......:p

I still think ZN shdnt be going....she shd replace by ZL..........ZN is the defending Champion.......its better to ends her career with a win in Athen than a lost.....in BO........poor ZN.......and poor ZL ......

She may end up in to represent HKG.......:p
are you sure??
who told you???
:confused::confused::confused:

are you sure??
who told you???
:confused::confused::confused:
rumour that NGWei may propose her next year......thats still rumour...

but now LYB said the person compete with ZL to go olympic not ZN,is LL..

but now LYB said the person compete with ZL to go olympic not ZN,is LL..

just for nice to hear...:(

but if u think wat he said is reasonable..ZL stil lose LL something as compare between two of them..

but zl better than zn this year...right???

agree that the competition is between ZHU LIN and LU LAN ,, as ZHANG NING has been prepared for this olympic after she won in athens...
Defenitely CHINA need an experience player,,,,

LYB has done a good choice,,,,

when he choose CHEN HONG instead of XIA XUANZE in athens,,, it's a wrong choice,,,
and now he didn't want to do the same mistake

but zl better than zn this year...right???

u may have been deceived.

let say, ZN has a better chance advancing along their event than your older MAL player WCH. Again, stop worrying about the chinese players.

just for nice to hear...:(xxf and zn are in lyb's battle plan. 3rd WS slot will be who has the highest ranking, in this case, LL over ZL.

ok...zn will speak her form...let see..

agree that the competition is between ZHU LIN and LU LAN ,, as ZHANG NING has been prepared for this olympic after she won in athens...
Defenitely CHINA need an experience player,,,,

LYB has done a good choice,,,,

when he choose CHEN HONG instead of XIA XUANZE in athens,,, it's a wrong choice,,,
and now he didn't want to do the same mistake
But XXZ was in his 20s then. ZN is now in her 30s. If her opponent has the skills to make her bend 30 times in G1,she wouldn't have time to unbend and recover for G2.Sorry, my last impression of her was she's rickety.Maybe she can do a U turn, who knows.

sure LYB will see the performance between two of them not only this year..even though ZL won one of the match but LL get in final so many times as compare to ZL..hope ZN can do the best for her last olympic..wil she be the coach of WS china team?

But XXZ was in his 20s then. ZN is now in her 30s. If her opponent has the skills to make her bend 30 times in G1,she wouldn't have time to unbend and recover for G2.Sorry, my last impression of her was she's rickety.Maybe she can do a U turn, who knows.
:eek::D:cool::confused::p:eek::D:cool::confused::p

I just hate this kind of selection by coaches. It's completely not fair to the players. Either selecting by ranking - XXF, LL and ZL, or have a selection tournament. Same in Malaysia, keep hearing Rexy keep saying who is going and who's not going....

But XXZ was in his 20s then. ZN is now in her 30s. If her opponent has the skills to make her bend 30 times in G1,she wouldn't have time to unbend and recover for G2.Sorry, my last impression of her was she's rickety.Maybe she can do a U turn, who knows.
seems that u always think like this about CHINA players and official...

There are many noises about why Zhang Ning currently WR.6 is presenting PRC with seeding 2 in Olympic and why not Zhu Lin current WR.3.

I just checked the WR for women's single at time of cut-off date (continental tournement ASIA game, some time begging of May). Zhang Ning was WR.2 after XXF on the death line of Olympic seeding... Thus litterally she is more qualified (of course seeded.2 by IBF now) than Zhu Lin...

Thus, in my opnion, it is more related to World raking at Olympic seeding cut-off date rather than LYB. (though I will not rule out or argue if there is LYB's influence.

I just hate this kind of selection by coaches. It's completely not fair to the players. Either selecting by ranking - XXF, LL and ZL, or have a selection tournament. Same in Malaysia, keep hearing Rexy keep saying who is going and who's not going....

Once you have many quality players / pairs, the coach has to do the cut. Thanks for the "limited entry" rules... :cool:

Once you have many quality players / pairs, the coach has to do the cut. Thanks for the "limited entry" rules... :cool:

hmm...this make me sad because mas have so many quality md pairs...:crying:

Once you have many quality players / pairs, the coach has to do the cut. Thanks for the "limited entry" rules... :cool:
Limited entry is fair....in this case....Rusia tennis is worse case that you think....pls do not think China is the only victim....if not..not many asians will be featured in track/field and swimming.....:cool::cool:
INA should have more MD and XD pairs too.....

...
I just checked the WR for women's single at time of cut-off date (continental tournement ASIA game, some time begging of May). Zhang Ning was WR.2 after XXF on the death line of Olympic seeding... Thus litterally she is more qualified (of course seeded.2 by IBF now) than Zhu Lin...

Thus, in my opnion, it is more related to World raking at Olympic seeding cut-off date rather than LYB. (though I will not rule out or argue if there is LYB's influence.
...but if say, both ZN and ZL played the same number of Super Series or tournaments needed as part of the Olympics qualifying tourneys, then the LYB's factor/influence could be minimal, if none.
*Could someone do a bit of detective work and see if ZN & ZL played the same number of Olympics qualifying tourneys??..:cool:

ZN proved herself.
make it to final.
Silver or Gold, she did a good performance..........;)

ZN proved herself.
make it to final.
Silver or Gold, she did a good performance..........;)

Most definitely! Exiting the game with a Gold or Silver medal in OG in her own country, wow!. No matter what happen in the final, she is already a winner. No just in this OG but a great great career.

Yes indeed she made LYB a proud coach for choosing her to compete in Olmypic.

lyb made the right choice it seem to went with ZN over ZL.
ZN played amazingly well, as good as, if not better, than 2004 athens WS final

Please who complained on the first 6 pages should really give credit to LYB for picking ZN.

Wish ZN can defend her title...

Please who complained on the first 6 pages should really give credit to LYB for picking ZN.

Agreed, those haters of LYB should go and eat a large chunk of humble pie.

XXF won WC after ZN returned home with OG04 crown, not before OG04

though I am superfan of ZN, but I think that ZL should go. ZN is famous with her fighting spirit and strong mental on court. ZL, LL and even XXF tumble occasionally due to pressure...not as stable as ZN. BUT, AGE DOES MATTER...

for me, ZN serves as the eliminator for her team mates and she will be the source of encouragement and motivation for her team mates. XXF, LL and ZL are good, but lack of charisma of which ZN possesses.

I prefer ZN to retire gracefully before OG, but seems that the team can't let her go. Well, this time, I will give my full support to WMC & Tine...but, if ZN is in the final against non of WMC & Tine, for sure, I will support ZN...:D afterall, she is the GREAT ZN...

Please who complained on the first 6 pages should really give credit to LYB for picking ZN.
Not me.....:D
Agreed, those haters of LYB should go and eat a large chunk of humble pie.
I love pie....as a fan of ZN, I hope she retire with an OG gold, which she made it 4 years ago...this year, judging from her performance + injury + age, I m wondering whether she can make it...if she fails...ppl will say, nvr give chance to youngster, and the reigning OG can't make it...

Anyway, I will cheer for ZN today...Zhang Ning is always the GREAT (though I think XXF fans is more as compared to Zhang's in this forum:p)...don't bite me...;)

Hmm...I'm a GREAT FAN of THE GREAT ZHANG NING, and I was really happy when ZN was selected instead of ZL, coz ZN lost her IO 08 while ZL won it! I thought that LYB would choose a better form ZL instead of an old ZN. But LYB proved me wrong, and I was happy with the outcome, but worried about ZN's form. But, she won match after match in OG, and make it to the final eventually!!! I'm so touch that she MAKE IT!!! Yup, no matter silver or gold, she deserves all the applauses! She is a legend in Badminton, and a role model to all, SALUTE HER!!!

I'll go home now to support her......Zhang Ning JIA YOU!!!

Hmm...I'm a GREAT FAN of THE GREAT ZHANG NING, and I was really happy when ZN was selected instead of ZL, coz ZN lost her IO 08 while ZL won it! I thought that LYB would choose a better form ZL instead of an old ZN. But LYB proved me wrong, and I was happy with the outcome, but worried about ZN's form. But, she won match after match in OG, and make it to the final eventually!!! I'm so touch that she MAKE IT!!! Yup, no matter silver or gold, she deserves all the applauses! She is a legend in Badminton, and a role model to all, SALUTE HER!!!

I'll go home now to support her......Zhang Ning JIA YOU!!!
A true lion hearted champion!
So many predicted the defending gold medalist Taufik would at least progress like 1 round further than ZN, but ZN has made everyone stand up and applaud!

Zhang Ning!!!!!!!! What a UNBELIEVABLE PERFORMANCE by her in this Olympics!!!!!!!
BEST WAY TO RETIRE!!! 2 Time Gold medalist!!!! When everyone was expecting her to not even make to the quarter finals!!!!!!
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow! What a match! Congratulation to Zhang Ning.

Zhang Ning is going for WS, but not Zhu Lin. It's official decision.( I think it's LYB's decision) Xie Xing-Fang, Lu Lan and Zhang Ning will representing for China in WS in 2008 Beijing Olympic games
I think Zhu Lin has better chance to win, since she is much younger and Zhang Ning is 33 years old now.
everybody, any comment ?

YOU'RE SO WRONG.

Sorry but I feel happy for ZN! :D

wow, i guess zhang ning showed BrunoLi

Agreed. BrunoLi, I think a courier written apology to Zhang Ning is in due order???:p

I'm very happy ZN won..saw a doucmentary on her in pre OG previews..
Love to have seen the match but not broadcast in Australia.

ya..really good stamina she have..do u saw her husband shows up there?how sweet..is really a gift before her retirement..congratulation to ZN..finally she did it..

Zhang Ning is going for WS, but not Zhu Lin. It's official decision.( I think it's LYB's decision) Xie Xing-Fang, Lu Lan and Zhang Ning will representing for China in WS in 2008 Beijing Olympic games
I think Zhu Lin has better chance to win, since she is much younger and Zhang Ning is 33 years old now.
everybody, any comment ?


:rolleyes: you are wrong.
LYB shows why he is the head coach.

do u guys have the pic ZN with her husband?i want to c..

do u guys have the pic ZN with her husband?i want to c..
try to search at the professional badminton section there..;)
dont be lazy..:cool:
search pls..:)

Zhang Ning carried the flag for China at the Closing Ceremony. An honor for her and it's well deserved!

Zhang Ning looks very nice in these pictures.

A true lion hearted champion!
So many predicted the defending gold medalist Taufik would at least progress like 1 round further than ZN, but ZN has made everyone stand up and applaud!

A Lion Hearted Champion! Well said!
It's her never give up sprit inspired us all! --- and this is why LYB picked her instead of ZL in the first place.