what shuttles you guys prefer?

[Kevin]

really want to know that

[Chia]

i like feather way better, and the way it makes that popping sound..
but i suck really bad, so the feathers wouldn't last

[Kevin]

I mean the sort of feather shuttles , yonex , forza , carlton , ... ?

[Chia]

o...
you could have been more clearer on that :)

[Nanashi]

CN alpha is quite good... i just use the brand that is made at my club...

[modious]

Yonex AS-40, Carlton AG10, Victor Champion, Yang Yang Tactic 300B, ProTech Tournament Grade, RSL Tourney Classic.

[ayl]

G'day,

We are short of options here in Australia so all we get is Epsilon Green, Orange, Yellow, Red and Purple lable. Boo hoo.

Occassionally we get to use RSL silver. Yonex shuttles? Can't get them here! ;)

[cooler]

i'm surprise, aussy is so close to SE asia. My favorite shuttle is a correct speed one. :p

[viver]

Originally posted by cooler
i'm surprise, aussy is so close to SE asia. My favorite shuttle is a correct speed one. :p

And also durable ;)

[ayl]

True, Australia is close to SE Asia but because badminton IS such a niche sport here we don't have a lot of options available in terms of equipment.

Like today - contacted the local racket shop up looking for a MP80 / MP90 - the reply was "The Yonex rep will be visiting us with the 2002 range around end of July."

Great hey?:(

[Pre-emptive]

Gosen S-200

[y0ng]

Yonex AS40, GajahMada 78

[Yogi]

u get some great shuttles here with curious names! But then i would say that the yonex shuttles are the most consistent ones!I guess that is what makes yonex the market leader in equipment! others lack consistency!

[trapped-never]

I currently switched from RSL to Babolats. I use Start for trainings and Performance for matches. The Start shuttles are a bit unconsistent but exteremely durable. Since it costs cca 10Euro per dozen it is good choice for training.

[AhNgaU]

YEah anyone heard of Epsilon shuttles? Epsilon must be a subsidary of some other company? They're probably most popular shuttle down here in Australia.

ayl. I've seen Yonex shuttles on sale at the Albert Park store, last time I went(damn expensive though). Epsilon seem to be decent (Green's) and the RSL silver feather's are ok also.

[ahtan]

Hi

I was told by a distributor that to make the shuttles more durable, store them in fridge when not playing. True??

Surprised nobody mention Sealion brand (Pink)! Very popular in Kuala Lumpur :)
Yonex is too expensiveeeeeeee.

[Slanter]

I have nearly always used RSL shuttles. Yonex shuttles always feel a tiny bit dead to me, and Ashaway are poor. Many clubs believe that by buying inferior shuttles that they are saving money...WRONG! Inferior shuttles break easily and end up costing much the same.

While I would never willingly play with a plastic they have their uses at beginner level. Coaches like them because they are durable and difficult to destroy. They also give beginners a lot of confidence. For this purpose Yonex are the best.

[mongoose]

Yonex AS-40 and Victor Champion

[Pecheur]

If you shop at say MSAC sure all you can get is Epsilon, but RSL is very common here, and you can get Yonex if you know where to look.

As for an MP90, haven't asked around yet, I'll see

[AhNgaU]

ayl, where's your 'local store?'

I don't have any local store that sells badminton racquets!

And MSAC has heaps of Epsilons, but i saw some Yonex there too.

[Kevin]

On wich site i can buy cheap Yonex AS40 shuttles? Because where i life is everything so expensive maybe if i buy them over the internet i have som money over :)

[MING]

bonjour,I like sea lion red or black from YOYO Markham Toronto,RSL tourney No1
Doggie Tournement or official from hongkong.MING:)

[Yogi]

It is indeed true that U need to keep the birds in the Fridge! They play better and last longer! I think one of the standing instructions on a box of shuttles would be to dip it in water B4 playing. I think the best thing to do is to keep in Fridge. But pls dont keep ur string in the fridge as it will break while stringing.

Yonex is the costliest shuttle here! we gets thousands of brands and u can get amazing shuttles at 175/- but then u might not consistency from one Box to another! That is why Yonex is best! Damn it.

[AhNgaU]

I always thought steaming the shuttles before playing was also good.

[badrad]

relatively inexpensive but decent and durable for average club play.

[GRObFURSt]

aussy its aussie.

close to SE asia... me and ayl live about 4000km from SE asia.
ayl we can get yonex shuttles here in melbourne even rebel sport has them. though I have seen them for about 20-30 bucks per dozen which I wouldnt pay for. If I could find some alright feather shuttles for about $1AUD each I would like to know what they are. I just use some nylon for social play though I would like some feather.

[gatecrasher]

Hi all,
In response to others from melbourne who have said that all people use epsilon down here, that's not true. I'm at melbourne uni and we use tai lai, epsilon yellow for comps and have used both RSL and tronex in the past. You can get Yonex shuttles but they cost heaps, like $50 a tube so if you're really picky and have the cash, I guess you get what you pay for. My friend actually bought a tube of yones As 40 and they're unreal, but not worth the price.

[Java]

Victor Champion.

J.

[GRObFURSt]

hey gatecrasher, did you goto gatecrasher a few months back ? neway I live in vermont in the eastern suburbs if u know that. And those Yonex shuttle's you can get them quite cheap at rebel sport. About 30 a tube. The sell a range of shuttles from 15 - 30 bucks a tube.

[GRObFURSt]

Oh and I use carlton T800 nylon. Though I scab some asian feather shuttles off friends.

[gatecrasher]

Hey, yeah of course I know vermont. No I didn't make it to gatecrasher, heard it was good though. The yonex shuttles you're talking about are different, I'm talking about the olympic grade ones, I got a couple of tubes from the yonex supplier to the olympics because I know him. They care up to $70 a tube depending on where you get them, and trust me, rebel doesn't have anything decent [I found out the hard way]. Anyway, the uni provides unlimited feather shuttles so I guess I can't complain. I actually prefer tai lai to epsilon because epsilon yellow are too quick, it's hard to hit finesse shots with them but I'm stuck with them to play tournaments. Anyway, you should move on to using just feather if you can because using nylon is a completely different game. Cheers

[kwun]

Anyone used AS-50 before?

AS-50 has been the official tournament shuttle for many international tournaments (at least the one officially sponsored by Yonex), and probably one of if not the best shuttles in the market. however, the cost of a tube of AS-50, at over US$20 a tube, is rather prohibitive for the average player with shallow pockets like us.

however, the AS-50 does give us a good guideline as to what a good shuttle should feel like, and we should seek birdies that is leaning towards having those characters.

but that requires someone to have used the AS-50 before.

so i did. somebody brought some AS-50 to the gym one day, so i had the chance to has a whack on them.

shuttle nirvana?

the initial feeling of the AS-50 that really strucks me is that it is rigid. a very snappy feel. many birdies i have used has a more mushy type of feel to it. when you hit it, you can feel the birdie deforming softly. but the AS-50 is just the opposite of it. rigid and responsive, it will do what you tell it to do.

the flight characteristic is very consistant, straight and not wobbly, you can pretty much know that it will always do the same thing, without any surprises.

i was also surprised that it felt a little bit heavier than the average shuttle. perhaps that has to do with the rigidity as well.

so far i haven't found any birdie that feels like that. anybody?

[Pete LSD]

Originally posted by kwun
Anyone used AS-50 before?

AS-50 has been the official tournament shuttle for many international tournaments (at least the one officially sponsored by Yonex), and probably one of if not the best shuttles in the market. however, the cost of a tube of AS-50, at over US$20 a tube, is rather prohibitive for the average player with shallow pockets like us.

however, the AS-50 does give us a good guideline as to what a good shuttle should feel like, and we should seek birdies that is leaning towards having those characters.

but that requires someone to have used the AS-50 before.

so i did. somebody brought some AS-50 to the gym one day, so i had the chance to has a whack on them.

shuttle nirvana?

the initial feeling of the AS-50 that really strucks me is that it is rigid. a very snappy feel. many birdies i have used has a more mushy type of feel to it. when you hit it, you can feel the birdie deforming softly. but the AS-50 is just the opposite of it. rigid and responsive, it will do what you tell it to do.

the flight characteristic is very consistant, straight and not wobbly, you can pretty much know that it will always do the same thing, without any surprises.

i was also surprised that it felt a little bit heavier than the average shuttle. perhaps that has to do with the rigidity as well.

so far i haven't found any birdie that feels like that. anybody?

Yes, I used it before. As you wrote, it is a very solid bird and very responsive. The tube I have cost me CND 30 before taxes. So, it's about USD 20 before taxes. The only bird that comes close to AS-50's characteristic is the Aeroplane series.

[modious]

Originally posted by kwun
Anyone used AS-50 before?



Yes, I have used it once in a while when I'm rich!
It's indeed the best shuttle I've ever used but it's too expensive!

[Yong]

I've tried this shuttle a few times,

On the evening that i tried this shuttle for the first time, i first played some
sets (single) with another shuttle, NBB tournament (i like this one,
err it's from the Dutch badminton federation)
Then we switched to AS-50.

First i have to mention that the shuttle's look is very nice. All feathers
are exactly the same size, nicely binded in the cork. Feels very solid.
Do not steam this shuttle or anything like that, because you will ruin
this nice shuttle. The shuttle is already coated with some kind of oil,
so no preparation is needed.

The first thing i noticed during play was, like Kwun said, that its
heavier then other shuttles. It kinda makes a pop-sound when launched
of your racket.
I needed a set or two to get used to it a bit, after switching from the NBB.
But then, the feeling with shots was excellent.
The durability disappointed me a bit, as the shuttle looks so solid and does
hold longer then most cheaper shuttles, but not as long as i expected.

Originally posted by Kwun:

AS-50 has been the official tournament shuttle for many international tournaments (at least the one officially sponsored by Yonex)

Kwun, the surdiman cup, also sonsored by Yonex, is played with Yonex Tournament.
This shuttle is not for sale (or should not be for as I know) and would even
be better than AS-50.
Well, as the surdiman cup will be played in Holland next year, i will try to get
a tube of those feathers ;)

[modious]

Originally posted by Yong



Kwun, the surdiman cup, also sonsored by Yonex, is played with Yonex Tournament.
This shuttle is not for sale (or should not be for as I know) and would even
be better than AS-50.
Well, as the surdiman cup will be played in Holland next year, i will try to get
a tube of those feathers ;)

This shuttle is for sale in Japan if I'm not wrong. I've the Japan Catalogue and it is called F-90 aka Yonex Tournament shuttle. It costs 4,200 Yen!

[Yong]

wow .. yonex tournament for 4200 yen, that's about 30 USD !
I wonder since when they are listed in the Japanese yonex catalogue.
I was told that they produce this shuttle only for the very most prestigious
tournaments.

[kwun]

f-90 (Tournament) on yonex's website:

[cooler]

yes, those high end shuttles look and feel like a piece of art. Too bad we end up beating them up :(

[kwun]

Originally posted by cooler
yes, those high end shuttles look and feel like a piece of art. Too bad we end up beating them up :(

piece of art, yes indeed. :)

who else has a shuttlecock on display in their living room shelves?

[UkPlayer]

Originally posted by kwun


piece of art, yes indeed. :)

who else has a shuttlecock on display in their living room shelves?

I've got a 20 year old hand made indian feather shuttle but I'm not sure whether to use it or put it on display! :D

[Matt Ross]

Hi all,

For shuttles, i love playing with the Ashaway Red Tournament feathers. They are a good, well made shuttle and a cheap price too at £8 per tube. A quality shuttle with a great flight...

[Matt Ross]

BUT.....

The best shuttle i have EVER played with are the RSL No 1 tournament shuttle. They don't come cheap at £13 per tube, but the flight and feel of them is AMAZING. They are a quailty feather and they are nothing like i have ever played with. They are surprisingly durable too, lasting during extra long and powerful rallies. So the best shuttle i have ever played with are these, and if i haven't ever played with these, i suggest you a buy a tube and give them a try. They are amazing...

Matt

[Matt Ross]

Here is what they look like...

Matt

[Chen Dan :D]

Here is the list of feathered shuttles i've used:

Tronex
Yonex AS 10, 20, 30, 40 and 50
Carlton AG Pro 10, 10 and Hi Vis
Sea Lion (the IBF approved ones)
Ashaway (the Blue tube and Black Tube)
RSL Tourney 1 and Silver Feather

Hey these are just a number that i remembered playing with, the RSL Tourney 1 i had was weired because the glue even covered the Feathered Tips so i gave up buying them as they affected the flight of the shuttle (shuttle fails to arc in a nice manner). My friend funnily enough brought a half tube of Silver feathered RSL ones (from HK) and i was impressed as the flight was good and they are also durable. AG Pro 10 are good but are not as durable as the Yonex 40's and 50's. Sea Lion wasn't actually bad i tried those out and they actually last pretty long, funnily enough when the shuttle has been wasted, it dosen't fly all wonky in the air but the flight of the shuttle just goes all slow. I tried the Tronex was they are good but need to be replaced alot. Thats the same with the Ashaway ones too. In terms of a look of shuttle i think Carlton made a brave step bringing out the HI-Vis ones but i doubt everyone will accept it. Generally i buy Yonex AS 40's as they are good quality and they don't break the bank as much as AS 50's, i practice with the AS 20's. Oh and Plastics i use either Carlton 800 or Yonex 370 (the closest you could get to a feel of a feathered shuttle)

The difference between the AS 50's is the way that its made and the flight, i found that the glue that is applied is very fine on the AS 50's rather than the AS-10's (glue is lumpy and just slapped on)

[Yong]

The RSL tourney 1 tube is one of my favourites too. I got some of those
half tubes. Lasts very long, plays nice.

[kwun]

Originally posted by Yong
wow .. yonex tournament for 4200 yen, that's about 30 USD !
I wonder since when they are listed in the Japanese yonex catalogue.
I was told that they produce this shuttle only for the very most prestigious
tournaments.

for US$30/tube. no one can afford to buy them, so they are effectively so.

[kwun]

Originally posted by modious
Yonex AS-40, Carlton AG10, Victor Champion, Yang Yang Tactic 300B, ProTech Tournament Grade, RSL Tourney Classic.

i just started using YangYang 300B, bought a whole box (25 tubes) the other day. feels quite snappy and solid, though not as solid as the AS-50, but at least it is towards the right direction, and longevity is ok too.

i was using HiQua Blue previously, and after using the AS-50, i noticed that the Blue is too mushy.

[Yogi]

kwun Mate,

How long would ur 25 boxes last? When i used to train real hard.. i.e Wanting to try to become a Pro kind of thing i used to use 3 yonex shuttles Per session. It depends on whom u play with(better or worse). Abt 2 shuttles will be used for training and one for games in a 3 Hr morning session. so I will blow up a Box in abt 2.5 days or 3 if i am very conservative.

So 25 boxes will last me something like 2 Months Max. I have found out that Shoes and Shuttles are The Biggest Cost to the game! Rackets u can manage with 3 for a whole yr uless U beat them up badly or string it high tensions or the stringer breaks it.

Shoes have to be changed every 3 months and Insoles every 30 days!

So if u can keep a tab of how u blew ur 25 boxes then it will be Gr8 help to me! Thanks mate

[kwun]

it really depends. we reuse old birdies for training. and when we play games, everyone pitches in so i only spend around 1-2 match. i only play 3 times a week, one day training. my gf and i share them and she kill birdie much slower than i do. so i'd say around 1-2 tubes/week. not too much. 25 tubes will last around 3-4 months for the two of us...

[modious]

Originally posted by kwun


i just started using YangYang 300B, bought a whole box (25 tubes) the other day. feels quite snappy and solid, though not as solid as the AS-50, but at least it is towards the right direction, and longevity is ok too.

i was using HiQua Blue previously, and after using the AS-50, i noticed that the Blue is too mushy.

I've not tried HiQua before, but the Yang Yang Tatic 300B are pretty good shuttles. I can get them for S$19 and can save about S$3-5 (rather than buying AS-50).

[Californian]

At the Orange County Badminton Club, a US national training center, you are REQUIRED to use THEIR shuttles. They are sold at their pro shop in a tube with the club name printed on it, and the club logo is on the cork sticker. There is a sign posted in the club stating that if you are caught using any other shuttle, you will be told to leave and your membership will be permanently revoked.

Now I realize this is done to bring in cash for the club, but it just struck me as a little extreme. Do any of your clubs outside the US do this?

I don't know who manufactures the OCBC shuttles, but they did not seem to be as good as Yonex.

[Cheung]

That's very extreme. But is the price of a shuttle exhorbitant?

[Matt Ross]

I would say screw em, that is FAR too extreme! I have never heard of anythin like that, pathetic. How much are these shuttles per tube?

Matt

[AKFT]

Californian: Would they consider charging "corkage" if you want to use your own shuttles?

;)

[Californian]

I've only been there a couple of times--once to watch the US Nationals, and once to play in a Yonex-sponsored tournament. In the tournament I played, they supplied each match with two free Yonex shuttles. In one long, hard singles match I played, we used up the freebies and had to buy the club shuttles. The per-shuttle price was about $1.60--not too bad (I just purchased a tube of 12 HiQuas for $13.00 at the San Gabriel club). We ended up having to use three club birds to finish the match.

That's one of those rules that probably isn't enforced often. After all, I'm sure they don't go around checking everyone's shuttles. Still, the rule is there, and if you happen to play the wrong person, you could get called on it.

[adelina76]

Unfortunately, we share the same as our fellow cattle-loving aussies and use not so good shuttles..although not epsilon, we use Green Pine..(dunno if better or worse compared to Epsilon) You guys in Australia used Green pine b4? It's not bad..not that great either..so-so..

But when I played in the NZ Open, I think we used the Yonex Tournament shuttles, I like it!!!! It even made me look like a semi-pro player :) heh..i.e a few drops and net shots that just touched the net and roll over :) ..better control and manipulation plus it doesn't get ruffled too easily when hitting slice shots with them.

When I used to play back in Malaysia..ages ago..when the dinasours roam, we use RSL shuttles..the orange ones I think..and sometimes the light green one.

But it's true what they say..once you've gone feather, you won't go back to plastic / synthetic/ nylon..

[Cheung]

Feather rules.

[Winex West Can]

Currently:
Victor Champion (green)
Winex Tournament

Have used:
Sosan Black
Lee's Club (Green)
Hi Qua Blue/Red
Victor Eagle (light blue)
Sea Lion (can't remember which label)
Prokennex

Prefer current shuttles.

Yonex shuttles are just too expensive here

[modious]

I recently tried CN Aplha (Gold) shuttles and they're very good!
It cost around the same price as the Yonex AS40 but the CN Alpha seems to be more durable.

[ksooi]

Currently using:

Victor Champion
Yonex AS-3
Yonex AS-5

i would use the AS-3 to warm up and either the Victor or AS-5 for gameplay.

I use to play with Sealion and ProKennex back in M'sia but not anymore.
I also think the standard of Aeroplane has dropped tremendously.

But AS-5 is definitely expensive....:( but very good.

[dronell19]

For all o you Melbourne people, I know a place in Glen Waverley that sells RSL shuttles for $15, $17, $24 and about 30 per tube depending on the type. Dunno if that's cheap or what, but if you guys are interested PM/email me, I'll give you his number.

[ants]

Currently I'm Using Yonex As-30 , As10, Aeroplane , Rsl Tourney and Gosen Red.

I think Yonex shuttles nowadays is not as consisten as before. Except if you buy the expensive ones. I'm not so sure.. the last time i disected a yonex cork , i found that they did put a screw inside the cork. Anyone had the same experience? Maybe for the weight. Nowadays none have been found.

Gosen ,Aeroplane and Rsl Tourney , what i can say that , their flight pattern is good, consistent. But don't really last that long.

Its hard to find a good cheap yet durable shuttles especially for hard hitters.
Sometimes when i play , i find that the different hall conditions does have an effect on flight pattern of the shuttles. For example if i use Gosen and As-30 in almost "vacummed area" so to speak , the shuttles last longer. But if i play in Big hall or stadium , it doesn't really last that long and the shuttles moves further if i use the same amount of energy to hit compare to the much enclosed area.

[benfok]

I tried HiQua orange, and blue and they don't last very long. I just bought a tube of Victor champion and HiQua red shuttle.

What shuttle do you guys use?

Ben

[Winex West Can]

Winex Tournament & Victor Champion.

Great shuttles but slightly more $$$ than others.

[hhppyy]

R.S.L. Silver Feather

[modious]

As kuwn announced at the top in every forum, search the archives first. :)

http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5881&highlight=shuttle

There're losts of opinions in there.

[kwun]

thank you modious. i much prefer people to dig out and continue old thread instead of starting a new thread asking the same exact question over and over again. so i am going to merge these two threads together.

[benfok]

Kwun:

I am sorry but when I did a search on shuttle, 100s of thread came up and most of them are irrelevant. Should I spend hours browsing through 100s of threads or should just click button and post a new one? Hmmm.... the choice is easy for me.

It would be nice if the search engine allows you to search an exact phrase.

Ben

[Chu Pa]

ben, try the search function first. If nothing comes up then post a question about the topic you want answers to. Basic rule to all forums around the world.

[kwun]

benfok. no problem.

[fhchiang]

I've Used

Sealion CH1130
Yonex AS-10
RSL Official
RSL Silver Feather
Gosen S-200
Gosen S-240
Gosen S-250
Protech 2005

__________________________________________________ _________________

In The List:
Good Durability

Yonex AS-10
Gosen S-200
Gosen S-240
_____________________________
Good Flight

RSL Official
Gosen S-200
Gosen S-240
Protech 2005
Sealion CH1130(Most Of The Times A Little Fast)
______________________________

All Shuttles Is Less Than 10 USD in Malaysia.

Personally,

I'll Recommend RSL Official Only 7.40USD

in a set of 15.... only 1 feather came out......


i just bought RSL tournet No 1 to try it... cost me 9 USD

[thesoothsayer]

Originally posted by fhchiang
I've Used

Personally,

I'll Recommend RSL Official Only 7.40USD

in a set of 15.... only 1 feather came out......


i just bought RSL tournet No 1 to try it... cost me 9 USD

Hi,

The RSL Official shuttles that I have you used don't seem to be really consistent in their durability. Sometimes, the feathers are pretty brittle and break off quite easily.

Is there a particular method to store the shuttles to allow them to play better or last longer?

[fhchiang]

RSL official..

sometimes can last.. sometimes can't

[wilfredlgf]

To most Malaysians (that I know, anyway), durability will definitely play a great role in shuttle selection. Most would settle for a cheaper but durable shuttle without thinking too much about the consistency in flight pattern, balance although those attributes are still taken into context. But then again, durability translate into flight consistency, no?

Perhaps it's due to the popularity of the game here that we got a host of shuttle brands to try out and use. A lot won't bother to buy Yonex as I think it's overpriced, simply not worth it as lots of other shuttles are almost as good or better at half or lower price.

At least to us weekend warriors. Some tournaments don't use Yonex anyway.

Talk about luxury of choice!

Btw, here are the ones I've used :

ProTech (green) - average in terms of durability and flight consistency. The feather gets ruffled pretty quickly.

ProTech (red) - very good in durability. Normal flight patterns.

Sea Lion (red) - quick to ruffle. The feather breaks quite easily. I don't really like this one however popular it is.

Yonex AS50 - I have to agree that this one flies the best. I do agree with kwun that this one feels somewhat harder and heavier. Too expensive. Super-unpopular.

Yonex AS30 - Nothing special, to me, apart from the fact that the cork lasts pretty long. The feather, is a different story altogether...

Carlton (yellow-black?) - This one sucks big time. Two big smashes and the shuttle will be deformed too much to fly properly. Avoid.

Wilson (silver-black) - One of the worst brand of shuttles I've ever used. Two big smashes and the head CRACKS. This had been confirmed by the cracking of 24 shuttles from big smashes. AVOID like a plague! Cheap though.

AcePower (blue) - now, this is perhaps the best I've ever used apart from AS50. It's durability is the longest I've known of all shuttles, not even the AS50 can last this long. Once we used one shuttle for two consecutive games and the shuttle only had badly ruffled feathers at the end of the second! The cork stays in shape without problems.
My favourite; will buy more of this the next time it's my turn to provide. Not very cheap though, about RM 40 per tube.

RSL Silverfeather - nothing great apart from the nice packaging. Performs very much like the red label Sea Lion.

All comments came from my own experience so, read with a pinch of salt. Or oregano.

[bluejeff]

Yonex AS 20 and 40
Victor Tourney and Champion
SeaLion

That's pretty much it

[My99broke]

i like mavis 350 for practice, and as50 for games

[seven]

I use Snow Peak,which is great.

[ttktom]

MIne are

Yonex As-40,50
Inflight Pro
RSL Tourny no.1

[lizamart]

:) like aeroplanes G1130, 1101. i've sometimes noticed that the particular brand will change in quality as i guess of different factors like bird migration, weather, storage conditions, etc. i always keep my open for other options though

[jump_smash]

Originally posted by ayl
G'day,

We are short of options here in Australia so all we get is Epsilon Green, Orange, Yellow, Red and Purple lable. Boo hoo.

Occassionally we get to use RSL silver. Yonex shuttles? Can't get them here! ;)

Ayl,

Who is your supplier? The shuttle market is diverse, whith many small players,
Snowpeak, RSL and Aeroplane (and to some extent Carlton?) are a few going round Melbourne.

The history with Epsilon goes back to days suppling shuttles, tracksuits to Badminton Australia as part of Sponsorship. Former Australian No 1 Singles player,
Murray Hocking was contracted to Epsilon as a player, and now works for them.

Former Australian No 1 Ladies Doubles player Rhonda Cator was a Carton agent, don't know if she still is.

As far as I know:

For RSL and Aeroplane try
Ko Beng (badmintonaust@one.net.au)

In Sydney they have Josan Arrow 300, Aeroplane and swallow.
You can tryAndrew (yonexaust@bigpond.com)

In Brisbane they have Yang Yang and Yonex
You can trySunrise Sports (sales@sunrisesports.net)

Regards
Stuart

[neoking]

we use Swallow shuttles out here and Yonex 10 or 20.

[davidcheng]

mmoa ms-999 (ultra select) for international competition that is really wonderful , durable and smooth fight but it just products speed 3 only (tempetur 22-28 degree).

[Volts]

I only use RSL tourney no.1 they are expensive though, 20$ CND for a dozens but i get mine for cheaper

[cooler]

we use Swallow shuttles out here and Yonex 10 or 20.

can u buy better shuttles over there?

[Birdiegut]

Hi,
In Ho Chi Minh City, we use Hai Yen shuttlecocks: Green/red and Yellow/red brand. Very cheap about $50,ooo/- Dong and $45,ooo/- Dong respectively. Both are not durable. Just can last the most a game.(USD$1/- equals to $15,900/-Dong.).:eek: :eek: :eek:
Lee:D

[davidcheng]

keep the price as 2005
mmoa ms-999(international competition) speed 3(only) au$21.0
mmoa ms-950(international competition) speed 3, speed 4 au$20.0
mmoa ms-850(state competion) speed 3, speed 4, speed 5 au$16.0
mmoa ms-750(club player) speed 4 au$14.0

speed 3(temp 22-28 degree), speed4(temp 17-23 degree), speed 5(temp12-18 degree)

[LongReach]

G'day,

We are short of options here in Australia so all we get is Epsilon Green, Orange, Yellow, Red and Purple lable. Boo hoo.

Occassionally we get to use RSL silver. Yonex shuttles? Can't get them here! ;)



Haha Same hear 'Epsilon 808(yellow)' sometimes green606 but they fluff up quikly and slow down......not as durable as the yellow 808s


mmmm......Maybe we should start a buisness importing shuttles to Aus?:D

Epsilons are ok but not the best for price and durabilitie and flight.

[LongReach]

Ayl,

Who is your supplier? The shuttle market is diverse, whith many small players,
Snowpeak, RSL and Aeroplane (and to some extent Carlton?) are a few going round Melbourne.

The history with Epsilon goes back to days suppling shuttles, tracksuits to Badminton Australia as part of Sponsorship. Former Australian No 1 Singles player,
Murray Hocking was contracted to Epsilon as a player, and now works for them.

Former Australian No 1 Ladies Doubles player Rhonda Cator was a Carton agent, don't know if she still is.

As far as I know:

For RSL and Aeroplane try
Ko Beng (badmintonaust@one.net.au)

In Sydney they have Josan Arrow 300, Aeroplane and swallow.
You can tryAndrew (yonexaust@bigpond.com)

In Brisbane they have Yang Yang and Yonex
You can trySunrise Sports (sales@sunrisesports.net)

Regards
Stuart



Yep epsilon and Murray Hocking.:)
I play at Altona Badminton Stadium......pro shop there only sells : epsilon , fleet, :( Used epsilon rackets for many years until recent, nice rackets.


yes Rhonda Cator is still dealing Carlton here in 'Pascoe Vale'


its on the web 'Casonsports' basic website but if you email they can send out cataloges.

[DarthHowie]

I used to use: Victor Blue.
Now i use: Sea Lion C1101 (black label) and Aeroplane SG1130

Some of our club members are now using RSL Tourney no.1 for $18.50/tube.

[Double_Player]

used to use: Victor Blue.
Now i use: Sea Lion C1101 (black label)

I use those too. but in reversed order. I used to use c1101 and now I use victor blue. where do u buy your shuttle supply? rsl is cheaper than victor blue. is it the same quality?

[roby2003]

For the past 2 weeks, I have been using the following:

Aeroplane Red (speed 78)
RSL # 1 (78)
RSL # 1 (77)
Victor Blue (78)

I can say that RSL # 1’s quality has improved while Victor Blue has gone down.
RSL # 1 (77) was too slow for our gym.

We are switching over to RSL # 1 (78) for sure. Also, the price was lowest for RSL.

[DarthHowie]

Double_Player:

My opinions of the RSL #1 agree with those of roby2003. The quality of the RSL Tourney #1 are very consistent and are better then those of the Victor Blue (which i find have gone down and are a little inconsistent in quality).

A club member bulk ordered the Sea Lion Blacks from Yo's (we ordered 100 tubes i think). Yo's even made a personal delivery to our club. It was rather nice of him.

The speed of the birds we use are 77. At the moment, i find the Aeroplane SG1130 a tad bit better then the Sea Lion Black and are a bit cheaper then the RSL birds. I love the RSL birds..but the problem is that they are based in montreal (have to take shipping to account). But fortunately our club organizer has good relations with them.

[Double_Player]

thanks darthhowie. the problem with out if town stores are u prettty much have to buy bulk to get it mailed, the same if order-in to your local store.


well, this is where traveling friends come in...:D

[DarthHowie]

thanks darthhowie. the problem with out if town stores are u prettty much have to buy bulk to get it mailed, the same if order-in to your local store.


well, this is where traveling friends come in...:D

I don't own a car (live and work downtown). When i got my 50 tubes of Aeroplane birds (bulk order for me and 3 others) i had to go pick it up (uptown at fairview mall - don mills ttc station). carrying a large box on the subway and streetcar was a bit of a hassle.. but the Aeroplane Rep was very accomodating and i think it was worth it. I would definately do business with him again.

based on my own preference of the birds i tried:

RSL Tourney #1 > Aeroplane SG1130 > Sea Lion C1101 > Victor Blue

I tried Sosan birds briefly when i was in vancouver (thanks PeteLSD). They are somewhere between aeroplane and sg1130 and above victor blue.

However for the price:durability ratio...it's RIGHT UP there!! I think the sosan rep is in Kingston. You may want to contact them.

ok i'm wrong..just checked...but here's the site:
http://torch.cs.dal.ca/~xji/shuttlecock.htm

[Double_Player]

thanks anyway. I still have 2 tubes of victor blue before I have to buy some more. sea lion C1101 does last a long time. when I'm playing at the club, we ussually only use 1 birds per game (with the ussual steaming before the game). we're not too picky, playing with feather is a treat, so a little wobble sometime is being ignored :) (as long as the feathers are intact). last night I got 2 games out of one bird :eek: ...a lot less smashing more drops and net play.

[Jan_BE]

I play with either Sosan greens (the club grade) or Level Skyline white.
That's what I play with, but what I prefer? Yonex AS-50 :D

[RSLCANADA]

Nice to see you like RSL shuttles, do you know you can buy RSL shuttles in some of the clubs in Toronto?

I find almost all the shuttles' quality are going down. Victor Champion is not as good as before, same is the Yonex AS-20. RSL shuttles went down not as much as them. Sealion, I am not sure recently, need to check out next time I go to Toronto.




I don't own a car (live and work downtown). When i got my 50 tubes of Aeroplane birds (bulk order for me and 3 others) i had to go pick it up (uptown at fairview mall - don mills ttc station). carrying a large box on the subway and streetcar was a bit of a hassle.. but the Aeroplane Rep was very accomodating and i think it was worth it. I would definately do business with him again.

based on my own preference of the birds i tried:

RSL Tourney #1 > Aeroplane SG1130 > Sea Lion C1101 > Victor Blue

I tried Sosan birds briefly when i was in vancouver (thanks PeteLSD). They are somewhere between aeroplane and sg1130 and above victor blue.

However for the price:durability ratio...it's RIGHT UP there!! I think the sosan rep is in Kingston. You may want to contact them.

ok i'm wrong..just checked...but here's the site:
http://torch.cs.dal.ca/~xji/shuttlecock.htm

[Double_Player]

OK, I have some stuffs to complain about to victor reps/dealer in this forum. I have a brand new victor tourney (blue, not no. 1) speed 78, which intended for 18-23 C. I've steamed them. the 1st one is OK, but still too fast (speed 77 don't really shows any different, and it's quiet rare to get speed 76 or 75 in canada). the 2nd and third one out of the tube was horrible:( . It's like a little torpedo (flies like speedminton shuttle), too fast; way too fast (my double partner hit a clear and end up about 3/4 way on the other court:eek: ). I play in a local club which uses a highschool gym (6 court, decent but not superb). we gotta tipped it out to reduce the speed.

Any possibility that the wrong steaming method could cause this? or just plain wrong speed for the wrong temp. that crazy speed happen to my speed 77 sea lion C1101...

It just something I want to rant about...since it cost me $22 a tube...

[Pete LSD]

Victor Blue 78 sold in Canada are generally one speed faster - 79. The bird is fine in unheated gym at an ambient temperature of 13 C.


OK, I have some stuffs to complain about to victor reps/dealer in this forum. I have a brand new victor tourney (blue, not no. 1) speed 78, which intended for 18-23 C. I've steamed them. the 1st one is OK, but still too fast (speed 77 don't really shows any different, and it's quiet rare to get speed 76 or 75 in canada). the 2nd and third one out of the tube was horrible:( . It's like a little torpedo (flies like speedminton shuttle), too fast; way too fast (my double partner hit a clear and end up about 3/4 way on the other court:eek: ). I play in a local club which uses a highschool gym (6 court, decent but not superb). we gotta tipped it out to reduce the speed.

Any possibility that the wrong steaming method could cause this? or just plain wrong speed for the wrong temp. that crazy speed happen to my speed 77 sea lion C1101...

It just something I want to rant about...since it cost me $22 a tube...

[Double_Player]

whoa...if that's true then I have a buch of overspeed birds:( ...ambiance temprature in the gym I'd say around 21-23 C top...since It's an older building build in the 50s. and i'ts too expensive to heat it more than that...

btw, what's the point of branding shuttles at 78 when the actual speed is 79? don't make any sense at all. pointless, utterly useless and crap.

[Pete LSD]

COST of feather and cork material :D! Sosan Black 78 is another example of super pumped speed rating. It's actually more like speed 80 at sea level.


whoa...if that's true then I have a buch of overspeed birds:( ...ambiance temprature in the gym I'd say around 21-23 C top...since It's an older building build in the 50s. and i'ts too expensive to heat it more than that...

btw, what's the point of branding shuttles at 78 when the actual speed is 79? don't make any sense at all. pointless, utterly useless and crap.

[RSLCANADA]

RSL shuttles sells higher in Montreal because we need to pay 15% tax while in Ontario we only need to pay 7% GST.

Also anyone interested to buy RSL shuttles could order 50 doz shuttles or more. Shipping is included in stardard market price, so donot worry about extra shipping fee. If you only 25 doz, shipping fee about $10 is charged.
Second, it will take only 2 days to ship from Montreal to Toronto. So it's actually very easy to order RSL shuttles!
If you have any complain please email me and I will handle it asap.

Also nice to see you here, roby, how the grip going?

[cooler]

RSL shuttles sells higher in Montreal because we need to pay 15% tax while in Ontario we only need to pay 7% GST.

Also anyone interested to buy RSL shuttles could order 50 doz shuttles or more. Shipping is included in stardard market price, so donot worry about extra shipping fee. If you only 25 doz, shipping fee about $10 is charged.
Second, it will take only 2 days to ship from Montreal to Toronto. So it's actually very easy to order RSL shuttles!
If you have any complain please email me and I will handle it asap.

Also nice to see you here, roby, how the grip going?
what is the slowest speed u got?

[Double_Player]

rsl, u forgot the pst of 8% so in total is same 15% taxes

[RSLCANADA]

I have 77 78 in stock, I supply RA Centre RSL No.1 with 79. Lot of player in Quebec like speed 77 and should be fine in Alberta. Because both places are warm in the room.






what is the slowest speed u got?

[RSLCANADA]

No I donot, when I sell product out of quebec, I donot need to pay 8%. same thing applied for the Victor and Yonex.


rsl, u forgot the pst of 8% so in total is same 15% taxes

[Arief]

I use :

Yonex AS40
Ashaway (blue)
PT10
PT masterpiece
Gajah Emas

[Double_Player]

my victors shuttle fly allright now. perfect! and last long time too :D. I don't know what happened that night the it went bezerk...

[Double_Player]

my victors shuttle fly allright now. perfect! and last long time too :D. I don't know what happened that night the it went bezerk...

funny, I quote myself. but my victor shuttle acting up again. uber speed at the next one out of the tube. it had been steamed, but the speed was crazy. the one before this was OK.

I think the consistency in victor tourney is kinda off sometime...since it sporadically get weird speed.

[tecdecs]

victor champion has the perfect speed

[lim_kobe2005]

RCL Gold and RSL Titanium

[MING PARIS]

I just discover YANG YANG 300B in paris for less than 15 euros,not bad
pretty good ,anyone here know this brand!!!!
MING

[juris]

RSL Tournament and Chao Pai Violet. Good standard ball flight and lasting durability.

[mettayogi]

I'm surprised at how much it cost some people. AS-50 is US$15.5 if you can buy from Taiwan's mattshop. Victor No.1 is US$13.5.

[*dave*b*]

Try using Jinque AA, if you can get hold of them. Used to be able to buy on ebay (uk) costing around 9 uk pounds/doz. These shuttles perform as well as Yonex AS-50 :eek: (Seriously they DO). Unfortunately the seller has stopped selling these on ebay which is a shame as i can't speak chinese to order some direct :crying:. The speed was a little slow for my liking but they still last well even when tipped. Generally excellent shuttles.

[stevess]

I just discover YANG YANG 300B in paris for less than 15 euros,not bad
pretty good ,anyone here know this brand!!!!
MING

Sure! It is approved by IBF for international tournament. Very nice shuttle. I'm selling it at AUS$20/doz.

I'm also selling Sea Lion C1101 at the same price. It is the top grade shuttle from Sea Lion and is also approved by IBF.

We actually has a lot of choices in Australia.

[pedro22]

Did the one with the crazy speed also feel heavy? If it did then you might have over steamed it. This happened to me once when I steamed some shuttles 12 hours before using them. I find it best to steam shuttles 2 days before using them.



funny, I quote myself. but my victor shuttle acting up again. uber speed at the next one out of the tube. it had been steamed, but the speed was crazy. the one before this was OK.

[Double_Player]

Did the one with the crazy speed also feel heavy? If it did then you might have over steamed it. This happened to me once when I steamed some shuttles 12 hours before using them. I find it best to steam shuttles 2 days before using them.

maybe I did oversteam them. I used to do it right before I went to badminton. but even so, I think it shouldn't do that. how much weight can a steam add to dry feather? it's not I dip them in water or something. it supposedly moisturized the feather, that's all.

[pedro22]

Dunno how much weight oversteaming would add but remember there is only a 0.1g weight difference between speed 78 vs speed 79.

I remember the shuttles felt heavy when hitting them, and my back-to-back clears would go over a meter from the back line.

[Double_Player]

BUMP everyone!!! help me make a decision. I live in Kingston, ON. just across the river (or lake depend on where you are in NY) from new york state. I'm comtemplating between shuttle speed 77 or 78. I had bad experience with sealion c1101 spd 77 which most of them are in the fast side. my victor tourney (blue) spd 78 seems allright xcept in the summer...:) but here in canada we have 9 months of cold. so yeah...

I don't know what is the temp @ the gym/ most likely it's gonna be around 21 C/70 F in the winter and around 23 in the summer. one gym is heated only but no AC and the other is heated and has AC in the summer. I don't play in the no AC gym in the summer.

[spinner]

its all about RSL tourny no. 1 and victor green...they seem to last the longest although during a match i go through about 6 (with the new scoring)

[Ranmira]

I prefer using RSL Tourney No.1 shuttles -- but strangely enough, they seem to lose bits of feather after each game -- maybe because both teams hit hard?

I had some experience with Jinque AA/AAA shuttles, they seem to be quite OK. I'll have to buy myself a tube to see them in action.

[spinner]

are you steaming your shuttles properly...if i dont steam my shuttles they do loose bits of feathers but when i steam them they dont.

[syahdeto]

me...only use blue PROACE...!!!

[mysword]

What about Yonex AS-20/30 (in duck feathers) and Tailai No. 1/2/3 made in China? Don't want to get fake ones, but if the quality is good....

[mysword]

Any comparison between TaiLai 001 and Victor Champion #1?

[Regisss]

I'm surprised at how much it cost some people. AS-50 is US$15.5 if you can buy from Taiwan's mattshop. Victor No.1 is US$13.5.

What brands of badminton equipment are possible to by in this Taiwan's mattshop? Where is it dislocated? Does this Taiwan's mattshop has an internet address (url)?

Tanks!

[Yllanah]

I play badminton in New Caledonia, near Australia, and we buy our shuttlecocks in China (www.bbeshop.com (http://www.bbeshop.com)). Prices are correct I think. Do anyone know a good international supplier ?

[tehtarik62]

I play badminton in New Caledonia, near Australia, and we buy our shuttlecocks in China (www.bbeshop.com (http://www.bbeshop.com)). Prices are correct I think. Do anyone know a good international supplier ?

You can refer to the thread below.
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35562

[mettayogi]

Unfortunately mattshop web site (http://www.mattshop.com.tw/2006-splb-shuttle.asp?spdl=shuttle&spxl=YY-Shuttle) is in Chinese, and recently they stop accepting credit card, but otherwise my experience with them is good. I count on my friend's trip to Taiwan to buy stuff (by ATM transfer) from them this year.

[maa2003]

around a month ago, one of our friend bought 3 tubes of Yonex AS40 .......... he didn't check the tubes till arrived at home ........... after checking, 1 one the tube was AS50 :eek:
then we tried the AS50 one ......... so awesome, this is the best shuttlecock I've tried.
the 2nd-best is Yonex AS40, then Protech PT-10 on 3rd-place.

if I return to my country, then Indocock, Gajahmada or Saxon or Roket .......... not so famous, but all are IBF approved except Roket (at least stated on the tubes, but dunno whether true or not).

[esiong]

What brands of badminton equipment are possible to by in this Taiwan's mattshop? Where is it dislocated? Does this Taiwan's mattshop has an internet address (url)?

Tanks!
Hi, you can also check out www.twsport.com.tw (http://www.twsport.com.tw), they have more products on sale than mattshop, and I think their prices are bit lower. Hope this helps.

[setaa]

samurai and superman (brown/red one) :D

[Double_Player]

RSL tourney no. 1, victor champion

[Yllanah]

Hi,

Thank you for all these informations. Can you give me the email or website of a good badminton international supplier (that speak in english at least) ? I am in New Caledonia and it is difficult to have good shuttles and racquets !

Nathalie

[asiaexpat]

I have not looked everywhere but other than the real cheapies seems like the popular shuttles in thailand are

Magnum
Ace
Yonex A20
Yonex A10

does anyone know the diff in Yonex A10 and A20--the a10 goes for about 12$ and the A20 about 15$

[Steven_Master18]

Yonex Mavis 300 =D

[eric25kc]

my opinion - a general overview of all shuttlecocks i have used whilst training and competition

Rating for price = 1/10 cheap, 10/10 expensive
Rating for quality = 1/10 bad, 10/10 excellent

RSL
RSL Tourney Classic
- Maximum Durability and Flight with great accuracy, precision in speed
- Used in many major international competitions
- Excellent Feel
Speed - 73-81
RATING - price 8/10 quality 9/10

RSL Tourney No.1
- Great Durabilyty and Flight with good accuracy, precision in speed
- Used in Most of the major competitions
- Great Feel
Speed -73-81
Rating - Price 7/10 Quality 8.5/10

RSL Tourney No.2~3
- Good Durability
- Accurate Flight, Speed
- Used in Top Clubs, some school competitions
- Good Feel
Speed - 73-81
Rating - Price 6/10 Quality 7.5/10

RSL Tourney No.4~8
- Economically Priced
- Ideal for Practice and Training
- Tourney No.8 = Suitable for Beginners
Speed - Unrated.
Rating - Price 4~5/10 Quality 4~6/10

RSL Silver Feather
- Breaks Way Too easily
- Yet Popular, Good Looking
- Flight with Accurate Speed
Speed - 73-81
Rating - Price 8/10 Quality 6/10

RSL Official
- Good Durabilty
- Economically Priced
- Accurate Speed
- Great Choice for both competition and training
Speed - 73-81
Rating - Price 7/10 Quality 8.5/10

RSL Standard
- Durability and Accurate Speed
- Economically Priced
- Great Choice for Training
Speed - 73-81
Rating - Price 6.5/10 Quality 7.5/10

RSL First Step
- Good Durability
- Not very Accurate Flight yet Ok.
- Great Choice for Beginners Training
Rating - Price 5/10 Quality 6/10

Yonex
Aero 10
- Durability and Accurate Speed
- Economically Priced
- Great Choice for Training
Speed - 76-79
Rating - Price 6.5/10 Quality 7.5/10

Aero 20
- Good Durabilty
- Affordable Price
- Accurate Speed
- Great Choice for hard training, school training
Speed - 76-79
Rating - Price 7/10 Quality 8/10

Aero 30&40
- Great Durabilty
- Very Accurate Speed and Flight
- Great choice for hard training, competitions
Speed - 76-79
Rating - Price 8.5/10 Quality 8.5~9/10

Aero 50
- Excellent Durability
- Excellent and Perfect Flight and Speed
- Great Choice for Competitions
- Expensive yet perfect
Speed - 76-79
Rating - Price 9.8/10 Quality 9.8/10

Mavis 370 (Nylon)
- Perfect Durability
- Good Flight and Speed
- Great Choice for Outdoors Training and Hard Training
Speed - 78~80
Rating - Price 8/10 Quality 8.5/10

Mavis 500 (Nylon)
- Perfect Durability
- Great Flight and Speed
- Great Choice for Outdoors Training and Hard Training
- Some used in competitions - 95% alike Feather Shuttlecocks
Speed - 78~80
Rating - Price 8.5/10 Quality 9/10

Aeroplane
Black Label
- Excellent Durability
- Excellent and Perfect Flight and Speed
- Great Choice for Competitions
- Expensive yet perfect
Speed - 76-79
Rating - Price 9.8/10 Quality 9.8/10

Red Label
- Great Durabilty
- Very Accurate Speed and Flight
- Great choice for hard training, competitions
Speed - 76-79
Rating - Price 8.5/10 Quality 8.5~9/10

Green Label
- Good Durabilty
- Good Price
- Accurate Speed
- Great Choice for hard training, school training
Speed - 76-79
Rating - Price 7/10 Quality 8/10

White Label
- Durability and Accurate Speed
- Affordable Price
- Great Choice for Training
Speed - 73-81
Rating - Price 6.5/10 Quality 7.5/10

Tronex
Tronex Gold
- Great Durability
- Great and Great Flight and Speed
Speed - 75-78
Rating - Price 9/10 Quality 9/10

Tronex Yellow
- Good Durability
- Great Flight, Accurate Speed
- Used in School Competitions
Speed - 75-78
Rating - Price 8/10 Quality 8/5/10

OVERALL

SUPERIOR GRADE
Yonex AS50
RSL Tourney Classic
RSL Tourney No1
Tronex Gold
Aeroplane Black Label

PROFESSIONAL GRADE
Yonex AS30
Yonex AS40
Yonex Mavis 500 (Nylon)
RSL Official
RSL Tourney No2
RSL Silver Feather
Aeroplane Red Label
Tronex Yellow

TRAINING GRADE
Yonex AS20
Yonex Mavis 370 (Nylon)
RSL Standard
RSL Tourney No3
RSL Tourney No4
Aeroplane Green Label

STANDARD GRADE
Yonex AS10
RSL Tourney No5
RSL Tourney No6
Aeroplane White Label

BEGINNER GRADE
RSL Tourney No7
RSL Tourney No8
RSL First Step

Wow that took a long time
yet- i organised everything :)

[aa777]

i would like to share my experience with you. just 2 days ago i played badminton with my friend, i bring the aeroplane green, red, black, yang yang 300B and snow peak c1101.

first i try green label. the reason of that is because i know how good the green label is. as a result of that i like to compare the rest with green label. so, i need to have a feel for the shuttle first. (Aeroplane Green label is the best). after that i tried yang yang 300b, first when i look at the shuttle itself, i feel the shuttle will be weak, and slow. but, once i have a few hits to my supprise, it is very good. my friend also said that where do you get this shuttle, first it is easily to controll, and the it is durable. i also, feel that after i used this shuttle it seem that i am playing much better.

after the yang yang 300B, we try snow peak c1101. when the time we have the new shuttle, the court become very quite, so as normal we have a few warm up hit. wowowowo, the sound is very good, i must admit that the sound is louder than any other shuttle i have used. but, beside the sound, we feel that the shuttle is very hard to control, and it fly very very fast. the speed we are using is only 77. the feeling is completely different from green label and yang yang 300B. in my opinon, i don't think i will like to use it, it seem that the shuttle is uncontrollable. after that we go back to yang yang 300B, the feel is very good.

in UK i don't think a lot of place selling yang yang and aeroplane. i brought shuttle from an online shop call super sporty. and i can not remember the web site, either .com or .co.uk at the back.