It's Time For Yap Kim Hock And Rexy To Leave

[Dato A]

After ''shocked'' early exit in the MD, i think it's time for both Yap kim Hock and mighty Rexy to leave BAM.

I would say the mission to olympic for badminton is failed!

2 early exit in the MD is expected, but unacceptable especially CTF/LWW. KKK/TBH from the beginning is hopeless. The win over Japs is only delaying the trip of KKK to The Great Wall and Shopping Centres for his Prada Bag, Gucci Spec by one day.

Wong Mew Choo is trying her best in the game, and i would say it's a good result for her.

Wong Choon Hann is dissapointed. Beat TH but lost to a Taiwanese who until today, i still cant remember his name.

No matter what LCW's result, i still think that somebody should step down.

somebody = YAP KIM HOCK!!!

[kwun]

overexpectation and overreacting again?

Chinese fans see exit of Gao Ling / Zheng Bo, Yang/Zhang, BCL, etc. i haven't seen any Chinese fans blame the coaches, we haven't seen anybody ask LYB to step down.

maybe the so call Malaysian fans should learn something from the Chinese fans. learn how to be a fan and don't let your emotion get the better of you.

[george@chongwei]

overexpectation and overreacting again?

Chinese fans see exit of Gao Ling / Zheng Bo, Yang/Zhang, BCL, etc. i haven't seen any Chinese fans blame the coaches, we haven't seen anybody ask LYB to step down.

maybe the so call Malaysian fans should learn something from the Chinese fans. learn how to be a fan and don't let your emotion get the better of you.
kwun, not all malaysian fans are like this men.:rolleyes::)
there are just `some` of it..

[Dato A]

overexpectation and overreacting again?

Chinese fans see exit of Gao Ling / Zheng Bo, Yang/Zhang, BCL, etc. i haven't seen any Chinese fans blame the coaches, we haven't seen anybody ask LYB to step down.

maybe the so call Malaysian fans should learn something from the Chinese fans. learn how to be a fan and don't let your emotion get the better of you.

Any Chinese players with big head problem, downhilled for so long, have backing powers from BAM officer, injured, not fit enough, still being sent to olympic game?

in MD, dont forget mas still have 1 good choice to be sent to OG, that is Fairuz/ Zakry pair, why not select them?

GL/ZB, Yang/Zhang, BCL being terminated, but they still have others players proceed towards medals game.

Imagine if CHN team failed miserably, like mas, and left only LD 1 men show, are u sure that CHN FANZ WILL NOT BLAMING LYB ??

If china team also have this kind of scenario in the team, yours comment on the ''so call malaysian fans'' certainly will be as quiet as the china fanz.

[TaRaKaN]

Imagine if CHN team failed miserably, like mas, and left only LD 1 men show, are u sure that CHN FANZ WILL NOT BLAMING LYB ??

If china team also have this kind of scenario in the team, yours comment on the ''so call malaysian fans'' certainly will be as quiet as the china fanz.

Hmm... not so sure about that. The thing is, the chinese players have consistently good results. Whether that be a final or a semi final. So if a player failed miserably most would say that the player didn't play well or were beaten by a better player on the day.

I'm sure that if LCW lost in a tournament some time later on in the year, not many malaysians would say that the coach needs to go as he has shown good form and results lately.

[kwun]

Any Chinese players with big head problem, downhilled for so long, have backing powers from BAM officer, injured, not fit enough, still being sent to olympic game?


even if that is true, how is asking Rexy and YKH to leave going to help? Rexy is probably the best coach MAS has ever gotten, he is strict and disciplined. if he cannot get the players to produce results, then who can?

and after you sack YKH and Rexy, who do you put in charge? have you thought about that before you make your rant?



in MD, dont forget mas still have 1 good choice to be sent to OG, that is Fairuz/ Zakry pair, why not select them?

GL/ZB, Yang/Zhang, BCL being terminated, but they still have others players proceed towards medals game.

Imagine if CHN team failed miserably, like mas, and left only LD 1 men show, are u sure that CHN FANZ WILL NOT BLAMING LYB ??


it is all about expectations. did you really expect the MAS MD to win? do you really expect the sole WMC challenger to the Chinese to win? some do i am sure, but given the poll we have, most people do not. then why the overreaction when you expectation was wrong in the first place?

it is like having HK fans complaining that Wang Chen lost when they shouldn't have expected her to win in the first place.

it is harsh reality, but the professional badminton world is cruel in that respect.



If china team also have this kind of scenario in the team, yours comment on the ''so call malaysian fans'' certainly will be as quiet as the china fanz.

mind you that China has not always been such a strong team. in 1992, China went into the 1992 with zero gold medals. i believe they went home with like 2 bronze. and this is after a few golden years of Chinese badminton when the China won all the medals in the WC a few years back.

i actually am not sure how the fans reacted then. it would be interesting to know.

[kwun]

kwun, not all malaysian fans are like this men.:rolleyes::)
there are just `some` of it..

sorry if i appeared to generalize, that wasn't my intent.

however, also like to point out that outsiders should not be blamed for generalizing if they do. there are a lot of MAS fans who use their mouth/keyboard before they use their brain. and unfortunately the reputation of MAS fans gets tarnished by these minorities. so if you think that some fellow fans of MAS are conducting properly, you should speak out.

[ants]

overexpectation and overreacting again?

Chinese fans see exit of Gao Ling / Zheng Bo, Yang/Zhang, BCL, etc. i haven't seen any Chinese fans blame the coaches, we haven't seen anybody ask LYB to step down.

maybe the so call Malaysian fans should learn something from the Chinese fans. learn how to be a fan and don't let your emotion get the better of you.

Its just not publicised. And at the same time... LYB is well protected.

[kwun]

Its just not publicised. And at the same time... LYB is well protected.

i know there are a lot of ppl who have beef against LYB, but that's not my point.

my point is that we don't see any fans who has high expection, and then start whining about how LYB or other coaches should resign because of a couple of defeats.

[ants]

i know there are a lot of ppl who have beef against LYB, but that's not my point.

my point is that we don't see any fans who has high expection, and then start whining about how LYB or other coaches should resign because of a couple of defeats.

They are not as vocal as Malaysians.

[jamesd20]

MAS results are not so bad when you look at who they lost to.

But what could be expected.........MD have not performed for a long time. I don't think had Fuzzy pair been playing they would have beaten either kido/setiwan or LJJ/HJM?

MS you only had 1 player and he is still in.

WD lost to the finalists, maybe winners....

WS reached QF and lost to CHN team.no disgrace in this.

What is the problem?

And like Kwun says who is going to do a better job? Yap & Rexy are a huge chunk of talent.

[bananakid]

As long as Malaysia badminton fans continue to scream "Boleh" to support their team, there is no reason to fire any of the coaches, because they already have accomplished their mission: "keep the fans screaming, keep them watching T.V, and also keep them buying Yonex equipments":p

Plus, these coaches and players have made any countries' coaches and players very happy, too... I am sure LYB would love to see YKH continue to be Malaysia's head coach.

[eaglehelang]

sorry if i appeared to generalize, that wasn't my intent.

however, also like to point out that outsiders should not be blamed for generalizing if they do. there are a lot of MAS fans who use their mouth/keyboard before they use their brain. and unfortunately the reputation of MAS fans gets tarnished by these minorities. so if you think that some fellow fans of MAS are conducting properly, you should speak out.[/quote]

I think the underlined portion was a typo?
That's why some of us have keep repeating "not all are like that". And when we speak out, we get ridiculed,so no need waste energy.

[quote=jamesd20;951928]MAS results are not so bad when you look at who they lost to.


......MS you only had 1 player and he is still in.

And like Kwun says who is going to do a better job? Yap & Rexy are a huge chunk of talent.

MS had 2 - LCW & WCH. BUt WCH was not considered a contender.
Yap KH - it was rumored in the malay language press that Rashid SIdek(Misbun's younger bro), current back up coach chief, may be asked to take over. Yap cos he's considered Mr Nice Guy, too softie.

Rexy - dont think so, already discussed in OG thread

[kwun]

sorry if i appeared to generalize, that wasn't my intent.

however, also like to point out that outsiders should not be blamed for generalizing if they do. there are a lot of MAS fans who use their mouth/keyboard before they use their brain. and unfortunately the reputation of MAS fans gets tarnished by these minorities. so if you think that some fellow fans of MAS are NOT conducting properly, you should speak out.

sorry for the typo. corrected above. (thanks eagle :) )

[V3i HoN6]

After ''shocked'' early exit in the MD, i think it's time for both Yap kim Hock and mighty Rexy to leave BAM.

I would say the mission to olympic for badminton is failed!

2 early exit in the MD is expected, but unacceptable especially CTF/LWW. KKK/TBH from the beginning is hopeless. The win over Japs is only delaying the trip of KKK to The Great Wall and Shopping Centres for his Prada Bag, Gucci Spec by one day.

Wong Mew Choo is trying her best in the game, and i would say it's a good result for her.

Wong Choon Hann is dissapointed. Beat TH but lost to a Taiwanese who until today, i still cant remember his name.

No matter what LCW's result, i still think that somebody should step down.

somebody = YAP KIM HOCK!!!
I think the main happening here is someone still feeling bitter over their favorite pair not get choose instead of his hating group.

And it's been bringing out over and over for many times that we should send Zakry/Fairuz, which I think they are totally missing the point.

As early as 2007, there's already announcements that the selection of participating pair will be based on world ranking. (It's even on the paper). So every team got their shot at winning every world ranking points they could. Some did well at the early part, some did with consistent, some did well at the end part. But at the end, the promise stay and the highest ranking pairs get to send to Beijing. But of course you will have to ignore all this little inconvenient little fact so you could go on and make accusation.

[green.blood]

I think the main happening here is someone still feeling bitter over their favorite pair not get choose instead of his hating group.

And it's been bringing out over and over for many times that we should send Zakry/Fairuz, which I think they are totally missing the point.

As early as 2007, there's already announcements that the selection of participating pair will be based on world ranking. (It's even on the paper). So every team got their shot at winning every world ranking points they could. Some did well at the early part, some did with consistent, some did well at the end part. But at the end, the promise stay and the highest ranking pairs get to send to Beijing. But of course you will have to ignore all this little inconvenient little fact so you could go on and make accusation.

In Olympics, participating countries may not be able to send their best athletes. During qualifiers (any sports) the best ones might be injured for example, so only those made it in qualifiers are bound for olympics. When the rules says only players with the better rankings are eligible, then so be it. Maybe some people are still ignorants.

I don't understand why there are calls to get rid of YKH or Rexy. They are gems to the MAS MD's. New pairs are emerging and performing brilliantly (KKK/TBH & Z/F for instance). If they leave, could those who chant for their departures suggest their replacements? Since Thomas Cup '92 only the last two years have been great for MAS MD's and the tournament winners are being coached by these two. That's something to think about.

Today in the papers Rexy blasted KKK and TBH for being no-brainers against KM/HS. For me that's fine. Being an Olympic gold medalist himself he has the rights. Furthermore if the players are unable to take the pressure from their own coach, how would we expect them to absorb the match pressure. He probably knows this pair better than anybody else around. In a game it's all up to the players. Coaches only can give instructions or advice. He also mentioned that KKK/TBH failed to follow his orders in that match.

I'm dissapointed with the losses but what annoys me most is that MAS players have what it takes to become a force in world badminton but certainly lack mental strength. This has been a problem for long enough to the Malaysian fans disappointment. Maybe we should have to brainwashed our shuttlers to make them perform! If you don't agree it's not a problem as I'm no pshycologist ;)

I hope BAM will do the right thing (keep YKH & Rexy) as I don't see any better coaches than these two at the moment.

[danielwong]

who is Dato Asbullah to suggest Rexy or YKH to leave?

[V3i HoN6]

who is Dato Asbullah to suggest Rexy or YKH to leave?
The point isn't who is Him. He can be nobody to have give his opinion.
Is his opinion that people greatly make disagreement with.
Korea MD came in stronger than Mas MD but came home empty handed too. Should their MD coaches resign too? (who's their coach anyway?)
Should Park Joo Bong on their Japanese team?

Anyway he is Tv1 commentator with his famous labeling "Cantik Sekali" line and his mis-pronunciation of even some biggest name like Bao Chun Lai. He will be made the deputy when pemuda become the Sports Minister.

[Dato A]

who is Dato Asbullah to suggest Rexy or YKH to leave?

And who are you to question who is Dato Asbullah?

[Dato A]

MAS results are not so bad when you look at who they lost to.

But what could be expected.........MD have not performed for a long time. I don't think had Fuzzy pair been playing they would have beaten either kido/setiwan or LJJ/HJM?

MS you only had 1 player and he is still in.

WD lost to the finalists, maybe winners....

WS reached QF and lost to CHN team.no disgrace in this.

What is the problem?

And like Kwun says who is going to do a better job? Yap & Rexy are a huge chunk of talent.

What Kwun said is correct, is his opinion, not mine.

When a country like USA, JAPAN, INDIA, HONG KONG even UK cant produce good results in badminton competitions in international events, their supporters may not feel dissapointed as great as mas.simply because badminton sports in their country is not the most popular sports.

How much their gov spend for the badminton sports compared to mas gov?

YAP KIM HOCK is a good head coach? Depends on the people to think and see.

Do mas have the WC TITLE? TC ? How much chances do we have to give both YKH AND REXY? As like what they giving chances and chances to KKK/TBH?

THEY ARE GOOD COACH, WITHOUT ANY MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIPS.

[jamesd20]

How much their gov spend for the badminton sports compared to mas gov?


I don't see the relevance to this, but please explain. I suggest UK spends far more on UK sport than MAS Government.

[cooler]

I don't see the relevance to this, but please explain. I suggest UK spends far more on UK sport than MAS Government. both countries have different cost of living. The best is to express the $ values in term of % of GDP or % of gov't annual budget.

[GunBlade008]

In either case, before Rexy came along, Malaysia's MD were not on the map at all, with the exception of the aging LWW/CTF. Now that he's here, Fuzzy and KKK/TBH have stepped up, although being short in the Olympics.

What you say may be your own opinion, but these are hard facts. Welcome to the world of sports, that's right, sometimes you just LOSE. And for spectators like us, it is better for all to support the players that we are fans of and not play the blame game.

[kwun]

What Kwun said is correct, is his opinion, not mine.

When a country like USA, JAPAN, INDIA, HONG KONG even UK cant produce good results in badminton competitions in international events, their supporters may not feel dissapointed as great as mas.simply because badminton sports in their country is not the most popular sports.

How much their gov spend for the badminton sports compared to mas gov?

YAP KIM HOCK is a good head coach? Depends on the people to think and see.

Do mas have the WC TITLE? TC ? How much chances do we have to give both YKH AND REXY? As like what they giving chances and chances to KKK/TBH?

THEY ARE GOOD COACH, WITHOUT ANY MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIPS.

it is true. but still, the question is then. if you go and fire them, how is it going to make anything better? if they are not around anymore, who will replace them?

which bring GunBlade reply:



Welcome to the world of sports, that's right, sometimes you just LOSE. And for spectators like us, it is better for all to support the players that we are fans of and not play the blame game.

[Smichz]

After ''shocked'' early exit in the MD, i think it's time for both Yap kim Hock and mighty Rexy to leave BAM.

I would say the mission to olympic for badminton is failed!

2 early exit in the MD is expected, but unacceptable especially CTF/LWW. KKK/TBH from the beginning is hopeless. The win over Japs is only delaying the trip of KKK to The Great Wall and Shopping Centres for his Prada Bag, Gucci Spec by one day.

Wong Mew Choo is trying her best in the game, and i would say it's a good result for her.

Wong Choon Hann is dissapointed. Beat TH but lost to a Taiwanese who until today, i still cant remember his name.

No matter what LCW's result, i still think that somebody should step down.

somebody = YAP KIM HOCK!!!

This is what we called as "Habis manis sepah dibuang"..
Just like orange fruit,once we got everything sweet from it,we trash em..
But too bad,human r not fruits..n we couldn't do that esp to ppl like YKH n RM.Please appreciate them for what they did before for the malaysian team..

No them,no today's malaysia..

[kazibul]

no way for Rexy to step down..for me he is the best malaysia double coach ever have..blame on the player for the early exit....look what rexy has done since he arrival..a lots of young malaysian double came out from nothing to international level...
for Yap Kim Hock.....no word to say....

[victory]

We still have big battle ahead of us tomorrow. The war is not over. Why bring up the issue of who should resign. Especially Yap Kim Hok he is chief coach, his performance should be evaluated based on over all performance of the MAS team. Now MS won silver and we are fighting for gold tomorrow. Why talk about Yap Kim Hock should resign?

Tomorrow is a big day for Malaysian camp. Let us not say something that might affect the morale of our camp shall we? Don' t forget although MS is a individual event, the whole camp is backing LCW. Yap still has work to do although we don't see it as obvious as Misbun coaching LCW.

We can discuss the issue after tomorrow. I am afraid when LCW take the gold medal tomorrow, Date Hasbullah who started thread may change his mind.........and shout Yap Kim Hock boleh!:eek:;)

Anyway, my stand is Yap and Rexy is doing fine. Why should they resign?

[Athelete1234]

Who's gonna take their place when they're gone? You gotta plan who you're gonna get before you fire anybody.

[Pemuda]

After ''shocked'' early exit in the MD, i think it's time for both Yap kim Hock and mighty Rexy to leave BAM.

I would say the mission to olympic for badminton is failed!

2 early exit in the MD is expected, but unacceptable especially CTF/LWW. KKK/TBH from the beginning is hopeless. The win over Japs is only delaying the trip of KKK to The Great Wall and Shopping Centres for his Prada Bag, Gucci Spec by one day.

Wong Mew Choo is trying her best in the game, and i would say it's a good result for her.

Wong Choon Hann is dissapointed. Beat TH but lost to a Taiwanese who until today, i still cant remember his name.

No matter what LCW's result, i still think that somebody should step down.

somebody = YAP KIM HOCK!!!

Dato, I dont agree with you this time. Both Rexy and YKH are good coaches, especially Rexy. The problem with BAM and our badminton in general are not due to both Rexy and YKH. The problem lies with our management. There are too many politicians and their lackeys stirring the pot and free loaders hanging about in the training camp.

[huangkwokhau]

Dato, I dont agree with you this time. Both Rexy and YKH are good coaches, especially Rexy. The problem with BAM and our badminton in general are not due to both Rexy and YKH. The problem lies with our management. There are too many politicians and their lackeys stirring the pot and free loaders hanging about in the training camp.
Agreed...dumping Rexy is not fair at all.....after all, he, at least got MAS MDs on the map and more strong juniors are on the way.....it seems that everybody wants to find the short cut to win something...may be MAS should hire LYB right away......:D...

[SiuMcFung]

Agreed...dumping Rexy is not fair at all.....after all, he, at least got MAS MDs on the map and more strong juniors are on the way.....it seems that everybody wants to find the short cut to win something...may be MAS should hire LYB right away......:D...


u have a point there..MAS really does need someone like lyb to get the house in order...he will bring KKK back down to earth in no time...and HH will be history in no time too:D

[samuel882]

The Question is how many LYB in this world or rather person comes near too his calibre?

[eaglehelang]

patience patience, it's already happening mah. Bf OG, already they already hinted.

Read : http://www.bharian.com.my/Current_News/BH/Monday/Sukan/20080817231902/Article/print_html

Yap KH will take on the juniors for the 2016 OG prog & chief coach post will be given over to Rashid Sidek.
As for Rexy, BAM President said they still need Rexy's services, he's good.

[victory]

The Question is how many LYB in this world or rather person comes near too his calibre?

I don't agree with your comments at all.TSH did wonders to the Chinese team. Their WD and WS coaches are also good. Besides, this thread is talking about YKH and Rexy.

[Dato A]

Dato, I dont agree with you this time. Both Rexy and YKH are good coaches, especially Rexy. The problem with BAM and our badminton in general are not due to both Rexy and YKH. The problem lies with our management. There are too many politicians and their lackeys stirring the pot and free loaders hanging about in the training camp.

I get what you mean.

They both are good coach. But come to decision making, both of them do not have the power. It is interrupted by those busy-body who dont know badminton. Correct?

[pjswift]

The Question is how many LYB in this world or rather person comes near too his calibre?
You mean LYB's cowardice? The moment LYB allows CJ and LD to have a real match then you can talk about calibre.BTW, it's not LYB but TSH? who's LD's coach during OG08.

[danielwong]

And who are you to question who is Dato Asbullah?


coz I am Tan Sri, ;););)
you are lower than me...
gotta respect me :D:D:D:D:D

[danielwong]

I get what you mean.

They both are good coach. But come to decision making, both of them do not have the power. It is interrupted by those busy-body who dont know badminton. Correct?


If you agreed with even start this thread?
;););)
should change to "Its time for some busy-body in BAM to leave"
Dato.........

[cappy75]

I vote to get Dato Asbullah in as head coach for Malaysia. He seems to know what the team needs to go in the right direction. Rexy and Yap got nothing on Dato... who are they anyways! Malaysia has too many 'coachs' and should share the wealth with the world. This forum is one of those ways to spread their knowledge.

[Dato A]

If you agreed with even start this thread?
;););)
should change to "Its time for some busy-body in BAM to leave"
Dato.........

People still give excuses for those who are responsible for the failure of the mas badminton squad. Who is the one to be responsible?

In malaysia, no one should be responsible. Let the issue cool down for a while, then people will forget the thing.

[d65up2]

Indonesia won the gold in MD...and I do hope Rexy comes back to PBSI....because Indonesia can deliever

[d65up2]

Dato I liked you man...from day 1.....Indonesia 1 gold in MD says it all....what do you think Dato?? any comments??? Pls do comment

[Dato A]

Indonesia won the gold in MD...and I do hope Rexy comes back to PBSI....because Indonesia can deliever

INA no need Rexy also can win that gold medal. So what for Rexy go back to PBSI?

[Dato A]

Dato I liked you man...from day 1.....Indonesia 1 gold in MD says it all....what do you think Dato?? any comments??? Pls do comment

Please dont forget Taufik and Sony's bungkus is because of mas players. INA save the accomodation cost in Beijing, so you better thank mas for that.:p

[Dato A]

I vote to get Dato Asbullah in as head coach for Malaysia. He seems to know what the team needs to go in the right direction. Rexy and Yap got nothing on Dato... who are they anyways! Malaysia has too many 'coachs' and should share the wealth with the world. This forum is one of those ways to spread their knowledge.

There's always other jokers around the corner to sit on the hot-chair in BAM. :D

[cooler]

Wednesday September 3, 2008
Kim Hock likely to quit as national chief coach

PETALING JAYA: Yap Kim Hock may submit his resignation letter as the national chief coach after completing a four-year Olympic cycle during the Badminton Association of Malaysia’s (BAM) coaching and training committee meeting today.

Kim Hock was appointed as the chief coach in 2004 with a target to end the medal drought for the country in the Olympics at the Beijing Games last month.

And he managed to fulfil the task. Lee Chong Wei became the first shuttler in 12 years to win an Olympic medal, a silver, for Malaysia after losing to Lin Dan of China in the men’s singles final.

A gold would have been the icing on the cake for Kim Hock to end his roller-coaster ride as the BAM chief coach.

It’s now BAM’s call to accept Kim Hock’s decision or to reassign him to take charge of the national juniors.

There had been outstanding results for him with the senior side, including the 2006 Asian Games and 2007 All-England titles won by Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong. But he had struggled as far as communications and rapport with some of the other coaches were concerned – especially with those having strong characters, among them Misbun Sidek and Rexy Mainaky.

In fact, a tiff between Kim Hock and Chong Wei during the World Championships in Kuala Lumpur last year also marred his credentials as chief coach.

Besides looking into the roles of the coaches and reviewing the reports from them, the BAM are also expected to review the status of their players and restructure their training set-ups.

They are expected to downsize the squad for a more comprehensive programme geared towards the 2012 London Olympics.

The BAM’s coaching and training committee are headed by the association’s president, Datuk Nadzmi Mohd Salleh

[Qidong]

Good coaches don't always produce good results. There is some chemistry between the players and coaches. Just like NFL or NBA, a coach got fired can turn around and build a winning team in another city. I don't mean YKH or Rexy are bad coaches. But things don't work out, maybe time for a change. Look at LCW, he really started challenging LD after Misburn coached him. But who can say LM was not a good coach.

[slumber9954]

WHo the hell is Datuk Asbullah ? To me i think he is a tennis or golf fans and know nuts about badminton. Of all the coaches hired by BAM, Rexy is the most committed is have ever noticed. Second to none, not even Park Joo Bong displayed that kinda of commitments.

By looking the way at our malaysian women doubles, nobody can snatch such credits from rexy for their achievements!

Well, malaysia is a democratic country, everyone has the right to voice their opinion but hope these people think before they comments. Guess such people should be in politics, looking at how pathetic it is now.

[SibugiChai]

Lotta today promising juniors are product of yap kim hock...

even tan boon heong & koo kien kiat

[limsy]

another fight will start here...haiz...

[Dato A]

WHo the hell is Datuk Asbullah ? To me i think he is a tennis or golf fans and know nuts about badminton. Of all the coaches hired by BAM, Rexy is the most committed is have ever noticed. Second to none, not even Park Joo Bong displayed that kinda of commitments.

By looking the way at our malaysian women doubles, nobody can snatch such credits from rexy for their achievements!

Well, malaysia is a democratic country, everyone has the right to voice their opinion but hope these people think before they comments. Guess such people should be in politics, looking at how pathetic it is now.

You are a truly badminton fan?

Answer my question, why still sending KKK/TBH to Beijing while at that time, the Fuzzy's is more fit and in good condition?

[slumber9954]

Personally, i don;t like KKK, he is arrogant and indiscipline. However, choosing them over the Fuzzy's to Beijing is still the best bet and they have much major titles under their belt - among them Asian Games All England.

Experience show that they still can be counted on despite their fitness. Again, we witnessed that from the just concluded Super Series Champion.

Anyway, to real or false Dato, being a badminton fans is one thing but playing it is another. You have to become a player and fans in order to understand of what;s happening to the game. Not purely speculating!!!!

[chris-ccc]

another fight will start here...haiz...



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It is so unfortunate to find this thread titled so strongly, stating that; 'It's Time For Yap Kim Hock And Rexy To Leave'. So it is no surprise that fights could be started here. I know YKH and RM personally, and I am disgusted by this title/statement.

I have seen this thread many times before, but I have not visited it until now. This is because I don't like fighting. But because of our Seasonal Holidays here in Australia, I can find more time and therefore here I am.

If this thread was to be titled (toned down) as 'Is It Time For Yap Kim Hock And Rexy To Leave?', then perhaps I would have visited here much earlier.

Anyway, I believe that, as some posters have already covered, there is no need for Yap Kim Hock and Rexy to leave at the moment. We have to realise that the performance of teams is not only dependent on their coaches alone, but on a combination of many factors, including players' abilities, administrators' support, financial support, fans' support, etc... IMHO, sacking YKH and RM is not a solution for the MAS team.

And as kwun pointed out; OK sack them and then what? If there are constructive suggestions, then this thread would not be so hard to swallow. But as it is, I find that this thread is not helping at all for the MAS team. In fact, it is generating more anger to all MAS fans.
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[limsy]

yes...chriss...i agree with u...

[Dato A]

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It is so unfortunate to find this thread titled so strongly, stating that; 'It's Time For Yap Kim Hock And Rexy To Leave'. So it is no surprise that fights could be started here. I know YKH and RM personally, and I am disgusted by this title/statement.

I have seen this thread many times before, but I have not visited it until now. This is because I don't like fighting. But because of our Seasonal Holidays here in Australia, I can find more time and therefore here I am.

If this thread was to be titled (toned down) as 'Is It Time For Yap Kim Hock And Rexy To Leave?', then perhaps I would have visited here much earlier.

Anyway, I believe that, as some posters have already covered, there is no need for Yap Kim Hock and Rexy to leave at the moment. We have to realise that the performance of teams is not only dependent on their coaches alone, but on a combination of many factors, including players' abilities, administrators' support, financial support, fans' support, etc... IMHO, sacking YKH and RM is not a solution for the MAS team.

And as kwun pointed out; OK sack them and then what? If there are constructive suggestions, then this thread would not be so hard to swallow. But as it is, I find that this thread is not helping at all for the MAS team. In fact, it is generating more anger to all MAS fans.
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1. If you find this thread disgusted, please skip it. No need to read, go others.

2. Which Bcers like fighting here?

3. Players abilities? Or simply the decision maker's weaknesses to choose the right player at the right time to be sent to the big tournament? Other than this, i dont see any difficulties in the area as per your example as above.

[chris-ccc]

1. If you find this thread disgusted, please skip it. No need to read, go others.

2. Which Bcers like fighting here?

3. Players abilities? Or simply the decision maker's weaknesses to choose the right player at the right time to be sent to the big tournament? Other than this, i dont see any difficulties in the area as per your example as above.



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What I am saying is that this thread seems to be intended to degrade YKH and RM, instead of assisting them to help MAS to be a stronger Badminton nation.
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[george@chongwei]

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What I am saying is that this thread seems to be intended to degrade YKH and RM, instead of assisting them to help MAS to be a stronger Badminton nation.
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i have to agree with this;)

[Dato A]

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What I am saying is that this thread seems to be intended to degrade YKH and RM, instead of assisting them to help MAS to be a stronger Badminton nation.
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To give them sweets and sugar probably will help them to improve the standard of mas badminton team.:rolleyes:

[limsy]

To give them sweets and sugar probably will help them to improve the standard of mas badminton team.:rolleyes:

OK...hehe...when junior win a few title in wjc and ajc(for ykh)...and md/wd/xd won a few ss title(for rexy)...for this year...

can u ask mod to close this???;)

[jutawin]

Patience is the key..

[Dato A]

OK...hehe...when junior win a few title in wjc and ajc(for ykh)...and md/wd/xd won a few ss title(for rexy)...for this year...

can u ask mod to close this???;)

What abt problematic KKK and injured CEH, putting them to play XD?
What abt early exit of the No.1 mas MD throughout the 2008?
What abt bad discipline of certain player/s?
What abt mas only have 1 reliable MS for so long ? (Yap Kim Hock to answer, or Misbun to respon?)

[limsy]

What abt problematic KKK and injured CEH, putting them to play XD?
What abt early exit of the No.1 mas MD throughout the 2008?
What abt bad discipline of certain player/s?
What abt mas only have 1 reliable MS for so long ? (Yap Kim Hock to answer, or Misbun to respon?)

hehe...just answer my question b4 i answer urs...;)

[eRa@에라]

I'm a bit late, I think to come across this thread... regardless, I do think the title is a bit harsh... ;) either it's this year or next year, I still wanna see Rexy coaching our players... :) and I agree there are many factors when players lost matches... please don't focus only on the coaches.... they can give the best advice and train our players like hell but the end results really is up to the players... and I can see a lot of potentials in our double players this year and years to come... so, asking Rexy to leave is out of the question... ;)

[Dato A]

I'm a bit late, I think to come across this thread... regardless, I do think the title is a bit harsh... ;) either it's this year or next year, I still wanna see Rexy coaching our players... :) and I agree there are many factors when players lost matches... please don't focus only on the coaches.... they can give the best advice and train our players like hell but the end results really is up to the players... and I can see a lot of potentials in our double players this year and years to come... so, asking Rexy to leave is out of the question... ;)

Many factors of losing constantly in the tourney?:rolleyes:

[eRa@에라]

yes Dato' but the factor here seem to be directed to the coaches... Ermm... even before Rexy coaching also already losing, so... at least when he's there we've seen success in our pairs... so a year of constantly losing (that's koo/tan in 2008), I can't agree it's the coaches problem cos other pair (WPT/Chin) constantly showing good results (MO 09 aside, though they did give a good fight despite making a number of errors before losing which means, not the coaches fault as I can't see Rexy holding a racket at that time) .... He shows us there are lots of great potentials in our country... why should we kick him out now? Unless dato' wants offer to become coach and shows us greater result... a year later we shall see whether we should keep dato or not...hehehe...

[chris-ccc]

yes Dato' but the factor here seem to be directed to the coaches... Ermm... even before Rexy coaching also already losing, so... at least when he's there we've seen success in our pairs... so a year of constantly losing (that's koo/tan in 2008), I can't agree it's the coaches problem cos other pair (WPT/Chin) constantly showing good results (MO 09 aside, though they did give a good fight despite making a number of errors before losing which means, not the coaches fault as I can't see Rexy holding a racket at that time) .... He shows us there are lots of great potentials in our country... why should we kick him out now? Unless dato' wants offer to become coach and shows us greater result... a year later we shall see whether we should keep dato or not...hehehe...



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Oh No !!!

How could MAS have dato as a coach when he is always giving no confidence(Boleh) to MAS players? :p;):o
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[limsy]

OK...hehe...when junior win a few title in wjc and ajc(for ykh)...and md/wd/xd won a few ss title(for rexy)...for this year...

can u ask mod to close this???;)

dato...pls answer my question...

[koo_fan]

dato...pls answer my question...
Also,he got to provide us the names to take over their places.
Not simply ask for the termination of their services.sad to say,it wasnt as simple as "Pack ur things and Go Away"
I can see the point of this thread.Malaysia team aint the best yet.
But,is it really wise to put the blame on certain people?

[Dato A]

Also,he got to provide us the names to take over their places.
Not simply ask for the termination of their services.sad to say,it wasnt as simple as "Pack ur things and Go Away"
I can see the point of this thread.Malaysia team aint the best yet.
But,is it really wise to put the blame on certain people?

So who do u think should be responsible for the early exit of MD's in the OG08?

[Athelete1234]

So Dato, in your opinion, how do you think the Malaysian team will get any better by sacking some of the best coaches in the world, and who will replace them anyways?? I don't feel that Malaysian badminton isn't at the top of the world because of incompetent coaching (I dont' know all of the exact information and politics) but I feel more like it's incompetent players (and the infamous yoyo virus).

[Dato A]

yes Dato' but the factor here seem to be directed to the coaches... Ermm... even before Rexy coaching also already losing, so... at least when he's there we've seen success in our pairs... so a year of constantly losing (that's koo/tan in 2008), I can't agree it's the coaches problem cos other pair (WPT/Chin) constantly showing good results (MO 09 aside, though they did give a good fight despite making a number of errors before losing which means, not the coaches fault as I can't see Rexy holding a racket at that time) .... He shows us there are lots of great potentials in our country... why should we kick him out now? Unless dato' wants offer to become coach and shows us greater result... a year later we shall see whether we should keep dato or not...hehehe...


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Oh No !!!

How could MAS have dato as a coach when he is always giving no confidence(Boleh) to MAS players? :p;):o
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This type of 'recommendations' always happen in BC.

Now even chris@ccc also give this kind of low standard recommendations.:(

[Dato A]

So Dato, in your opinion, how do you think the Malaysian team will get any better by sacking some of the best coaches in the world, and who will replace them anyways?? I don't feel that Malaysian badminton isn't at the top of the world because of incompetent coaching (I dont' know all of the exact information and politics) but I feel more like it's incompetent players (and the infamous yoyo virus).

Yap Kim Hock is amongst the best coach in the world? :rolleyes:

[Athelete1234]

Yap Kim Hock is amongst the best coach in the world? :rolleyes:
Well I dunno really what he does and how his general performance is, but I know for a fact that Rexy is an excellent doubles coach.

[Dato A]

Well I dunno really what he does and how his general performance is, but I know for a fact that Rexy is an excellent doubles coach.

CEH/WPT should concentrate in WD. But why they still have to play XD as well?

Same things goes to KKK. He should concentrate on the 'comeback trail' with TBH. But why he still competing in the XD?

Please dont tell me it's not the decision from Rexy Manaiky.:rolleyes:

[huangkwokhau]

it is easier to criticize unless you are in their shoes......coach can guide and provide advises but it is up to players to execute it....I know it is not coaches' faults at all.....
it is like our parent...provide us best school with best teacher....enough milk money, etc...if we can not become one of the best student...whose fault is that? it is ourselves....not teachers or our parents....

[Athelete1234]

CEH/WPT should concentrate in WD. But why they still have to play XD as well?

Same things goes to KKK. He should concentrate on the 'comeback trail' with TBH. But why he still competing in the XD?

Please dont tell me it's not the decision from Rexy Manaiky.:rolleyes:
I was recently watching a game where Morten Frost was talking to Gillian Clarke about playing in two events; citing Jens Erikson and Anthony clark among others how playing XD and MD is actually beneficial to both players since they learn more skills that they can transfer to both events. It's remarkable how successful MD/XD players are great frontmen right? Just like KDM, LYD, JE, etc. Other amazing players like GL, LYD, LHJ play XD and their respective doubles, and are able to bring different skills to the game.

That being said, KKK has great skills, but lacks consistency which is more of a character issue as opposed to a coaching issue.

[OneToughBirdie]

it is easier to criticize unless you are in their shoes......coach can guide and provide advises but it is up to players to execute it....I know it is not coaches' faults at all.....
it is like our parent...provide us best school with best teacher....enough milk money, etc...if we can not become one of the best student...whose fault is that? it is ourselves....not teachers or our parents....

No, blame it on the cute looking girls, too much distraction, cannot concentrate lah!...:p:D

[limsy]

dato...u didnt saw my post is it???or u just ignore it???

[george@chongwei]

dato...u didnt saw my post is it???or u just ignore it???
just relax la limsy..
no need so tension 1:D

[huangkwokhau]

No, blame it on the cute looking girls, too much distraction, cannot concentrate lah!...:p:D
:D:D...thats true...Damn!!:p or blame on sexy and pretty teachers....:D:D

[eRa@에라]

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This type of 'recommendations' always happen in BC.

Now even chris@ccc also give this kind of low standard recommendations.:(


relaks dato' joking only :p

[Dato A]

dato...u didnt saw my post is it???or u just ignore it???

CEH/WPT only the mas WD's that shining lately, in the help of the top class CHN pair's absent for several tourney. When they meet CHN pair, they cant do anything except lost. For reference, MO2009.

Whether u want to accept or not, there are still a gap between our World's No.1 pair with CHN pair.

When u stated that our junior doing extremely well in the junior's championship, i dont see what to be proud of. At least, even in BC, less people are discussing abt it, compare to 'Senior's Championship.:cool:

If they are doing good in their job, CTF/LWW will probably no need still have to play to represent mas at their age, i guess.

Fuzzy and KKK/TBH still with consistency problem. Other pairs still have some gap compared with the 2 pairs as mentioned above.

So, please tell me, what's the problem, if it is not the problem of the coach?

[limsy]

CEH/WPT only the mas WD's that shining lately, in the help of the top class CHN pair's absent for several tourney. When they meet CHN pair, they cant do anything except lost. For reference, MO2009.

Whether u want to accept or not, there are still a gap between our World's No.1 pair with CHN pair.

When u stated that our junior doing extremely well in the junior's championship, i dont see what to be proud of. At least, even in BC, less people are discussing abt it, compare to 'Senior's Championship.:cool:

If they are doing good in their job, CTF/LWW will probably no need still have to play to represent mas at their age, i guess.

Fuzzy and KKK/TBH still with consistency problem. Other pairs still have some gap compared with the 2 pairs as mentioned above.

So, please tell me, what's the problem, if it is not the problem of the coach?

sigh....the question i asking and the answer u answering is totally different...:(

[Jagdpanther]

CEH/WPT only the mas WD's that shining lately, in the help of the top class CHN pair's absent for several tourney. When they meet CHN pair, they cant do anything except lost. For reference, MO2009.

Whether u want to accept or not, there are still a gap between our World's No.1 pair with CHN pair.

When u stated that our junior doing extremely well in the junior's championship, i dont see what to be proud of. At least, even in BC, less people are discussing abt it, compare to 'Senior's Championship.:cool:

If they are doing good in their job, CTF/LWW will probably no need still have to play to represent mas at their age, i guess.

Fuzzy and KKK/TBH still with consistency problem. Other pairs still have some gap compared with the 2 pairs as mentioned above.

So, please tell me, what's the problem, if it is not the problem of the coach?


sigh....the question i asking and the answer u answering is totally different...:(

Dato, I think limsy wants your answer regarding this one:

To give them sweets and sugar probably will help them to improve the standard of mas badminton team.:rolleyes:


OK...hehe...when junior win a few title in wjc and ajc(for ykh)...and md/wd/xd won a few ss title(for rexy)...for this year...

can u ask mod to close this???;)

Answer his question la. I saw him remind you more than 3 times.
I'm afraid he can't sleep till you answer it... :D


dato...pls answer my question...


hehe...just answer my question b4 i answer urs...;)


dato...u didnt saw my post is it???or u just ignore it???


i still wanting u reply my post in another thread...:p

See? 4 times already eh! :eek:

[Dato A]

I cant get what he wants......

[Pemuda]

I cant get what he wants......

I see they are ganging up on you :p

[limsy]

I cant get what he wants......


OK...hehe...when junior win a few title in wjc and ajc(for ykh)...and md/wd/xd won a few ss title(for rexy)...for this year...

can u ask mod to close this???;)

just answer u will or not...tat is easy...;)

[Oldhand]

Why must we say this again and again?

Do NOT discuss or comment on other members.
That is not what this forum is about or for :(

[danielwong]

i think we should ask YKH and Rexy to leave
get Razif or Jalani to coach MD
Sidek brothers monopoly....sure win

[Dato A]

i think we should ask YKH and Rexy to leave
get Razif or Jalani to coach MD
Sidek brothers monopoly....sure win

Do u think that the Sidek's brother do not have the ability to guide mas players?

[limsy]

Do u think that the Sidek's brother do not have the ability to guide mas players?

so...answer my question...and give us the solution..as u look so wise...clever...:D

[Dato A]

so...answer my question...and give us the solution..as u look so wise...clever...:D

Did i reply your post?:cool:

[limsy]

Did i reply your post?:cool:

just because u keep hiding ur head to my question...tats why i urge u to reply...i believe whole bc is waiting for DATO ASBULLAH TO SOLVE/SUGGEST SOLUTION ON THIS PROBLEM TAT OCCUR IN MALAYSIA SQUAD...;)

[Dato A]

just because u keep hiding ur head to my question...tats why i urge u to reply...i believe whole bc is waiting for DATO ASBULLAH TO SOLVE/SUGGEST SOLUTION ON THIS PROBLEM TAT OCCUR IN MALAYSIA SQUAD...;)

I am afraid u r only the one who urge.....:p

[Dato A]

OK...hehe...when junior win a few title in wjc and ajc(for ykh)...and md/wd/xd won a few ss title(for rexy)...for this year...

can u ask mod to close this???;)

Is this the question?

[badadum]

For the little minority here that wished to replace YKH and Rexy, whom are you going to replace them with? Its easy to blabber about firing someone, but if you don't have quality replacement inline, then all you do is just spitting hot air.

[ants]

Firing Rexy and YKH is like firing a local politician.

[Dato A]

For the little minority here that wished to replace YKH and Rexy, whom are you going to replace them with? Its easy to blabber about firing someone, but if you don't have quality replacement inline, then all you do is just spitting hot air.

Dont tell me Rexy and YKH is the world best coach. Nobody is indispensable.:cool:

[badadum]

Dont tell me Rexy and YKH is the world best coach. Nobody is indispensable.:cool:

Ok, then whom are you going to replace them with? If they're dispensable like you said, surely you've someone in mind to replace them? If not, then see above.

[Pemuda]

Ok, then whom are you going to replace them with? If they're dispensable like you said, surely you've someone in mind to replace them? If not, then see above.

No one is indispensable. And should BAM decide to replace say Rexy or YKH or both, I think Razif Sidek is a decent replacement for YKH. As for Rexy, I think others like PJB or Morten Frost or Prakash Padukone is equally experienced. Or maybe a Tony Gunawan.

[Dato A]

Ok, then whom are you going to replace them with? If they're dispensable like you said, surely you've someone in mind to replace them? If not, then see above.

You can refer to post #100. Candidates as mentioned is suitable to replace the both.

**Add: CSK will be a good candidate oso.

[badadum]

You can refer to post #100. Candidates as mentioned is suitable to replace the both.

**Add: CSK will be a good candidate oso.

CSK = Cheah Soon Kit? Your idea of a replacement is someone who's WD squad never even win any major tourney?

[Jagdpanther]

CSK = Cheah Soon Kit? Your idea of a replacement is someone who's WD squad never even win any major tourney?
Change, we believe in.:)

[Pemuda]

Whats wrong with being the coach of the WD?? :o

... and YKH achieved great results as a coach before being Malaysia head coach?:confused:

[badadum]

Lets see, MAS WD's major achievement under CSK is equal to what exactly? :confused:

Now someone here want to spread that lack of achievement to MD as well? Very funny. :rolleyes:

[Dato A]

CSK = Cheah Soon Kit? Your idea of a replacement is someone who's WD squad never even win any major tourney?

What is the problem?

[badadum]

What is the problem?

I suggest you read again the post you just quoted and then get back to us.

[Pemuda]

I believe the point is whats wrong with being the coach of WD???

And YKH's coaching achievements prior to being MAS head coach?

[danielwong]

I believe the point is whats wrong with being the coach of WD???

And YKH's coaching achievements prior to being MAS head coach?


i think badadum want to know why choose CSK??
as his WD squad never produce any good results...
of course he is not against CSK....but just curious why Dato
think CSK is suitable replacement...
i dont think badadum is against CSK as WD coach at all....:D:D:D

[Pemuda]

i think badadum want to know why choose CSK??
as his WD squad never produce any good results...
of course he is not against CSK....but just curious why Dato
think CSK is suitable replacement...
i dont think badadum is against CSK as WD coach at all....:D:D:D

Dude, when did I say CSK is an ideal replacement??Whether he is or not, that is another subject matter. I am saying whats wrong with being a coach of WD??

As for results in the WD?? I mean MAS WD, I think even with LYB, results will be hard because in my opinion we are lacking depth in the women's badminton, let alone WD. Its like if we appoint Jose Mourinho to coach the Indonesian football team, I doubt they can win the Asia Cup let alone the World Cup.

And what was YKH's achievements as a coach before he became MAS coach???

[badadum]

I believe the point is whats wrong with being the coach of WD???

And YKH's coaching achievements prior to being MAS head coach?

Seemed like the lack of reading comprehension gene is wide spread among MAS internal detractors.

[badadum]

i think badadum want to know why choose CSK??
as his WD squad never produce any good results...
of course he is not against CSK....but just curious why Dato
think CSK is suitable replacement...
i dont think badadum is against CSK as WD coach at all....:D:D:D

Don't sweat it, some ppl here simply failed at reading comprehension and push their own points, despite missing the real subject by a mile. :)

[danielwong]

Dude, when did I say CSK is an ideal replacement??Whether he is or not, that is another subject matter. I am saying whats wrong with being a coach of WD??

As for results in the WD?? I mean MAS WD, I think even with LYB, results will be hard because in my opinion we are lacking depth in the women's badminton, let alone WD. Its like if we appoint Jose Mourinho to coach the Indonesian football team, I doubt they can win the Asia Cup let alone the World Cup.

And what was YKH's achievements as a coach before he became MAS coach???


hey dude, are you reading clearly???
when did i say is you who choose CSK?
i said Dato, are you Dato?

[badadum]

hey dude, are you reading clearly???
when did i say is you who choose CSK?
i said Dato, are you Dato?

LOL, another example of comprehension failure? or simply needing bigger glasses?? :D

Then again, maybe Dato and Pemuda are one and the same afterall..... :p

[Dato A]

i think badadum want to know why choose CSK??
as his WD squad never produce any good results...
of course he is not against CSK....but just curious why Dato
think CSK is suitable replacement...
i dont think badadum is against CSK as WD coach at all....:D:D:D

And why do u and Badadum think that CSK is not the suitable candidates? Simply because he had not produce any world-beaters in WD?

[Dato A]

A good coach is when some Big-head player shows their irrespectful act towards he/them, they'll just keep quiet and cant do anything, or take any disciplinary actions against the mentioned player..........

[badadum]

And why do u and Badadum think that CSK is not the suitable candidates? Simply because he had not produce any world-beaters in WD?

That would be one reason, if he unable to do so in WD, what makes you think he'll be successful in MD? And WPT/CEH has done even better compared to when they were under him....is it possible that happened because he's unable to advance them further?

Also, He's been head coach in KLRC for one year now, what significant result has player under his wings accomplished?

He could very well be an excellent coach, but judging from the result so far, do explain how he's considered an upgrade over Rexy?? :confused:

[danielwong]

And why do u and Badadum think that CSK is not the suitable candidates? Simply because he had not produce any world-beaters in WD?


Dato...Dato, take a break, please read carefully
in which post did i ever mentioned that CSK is not suitable?
i am just translating what badadum wanna say to you....:D:D
whoever coach is fine for me....

[koo_fan]

Change, we believe in.:)
First 0f all,we need to have a damn good reason to 'change'.We should welcome suggestions.i recognize that.But they should also convince us with the suggestions.
i'm waiting for the thread's starter other points to complete the task.
After all ,u are not alone.Back up ur points wisely.im starting to see the question of this thread as a trash.

[limsy]

Dude, when did I say CSK is an ideal replacement??Whether he is or not, that is another subject matter. I am saying whats wrong with being a coach of WD??

As for results in the WD?? I mean MAS WD, I think even with LYB, results will be hard because in my opinion we are lacking depth in the women's badminton, let alone WD. Its like if we appoint Jose Mourinho to coach the Indonesian football team, I doubt they can win the Asia Cup let alone the World Cup.

And what was YKH's achievements as a coach before he became MAS coach???

eh...if csk cant produce when he is here...and rexy can...why ask rexy go???:confused:


Dato, I think limsy wants your answer regarding this one:
Answer his question la. I saw him remind you more than 3 times.
I'm afraid he can't sleep till you answer it... :D
See? 4 times already eh! :eek:


I am afraid u r only the one who urge.....:p

see the quote above...even i the only one...u still nid to answer me...because i asking u...in UR THREAD...



Is this the question?

yes...then can u answer now???

[limsy]

First 0f all,we need to have a damn good reason to 'change'.We should welcome suggestions.i recognize that.But they should also convince us with the suggestions.
i'm waiting for the thread's starter other points to complete the task.
After all ,u are not alone.Back up ur points wisely.im starting to see the question of this thread as a trash.

ya...i on ur side...kak...;)

[Pemuda]

eh...if csk cant produce when he is here...and rexy can...why ask rexy go???:confused:

Dude, where is it that I wrote calling for Rexy to be sacked?:confused:

[limsy]

Dude, where is it that I wrote calling for Rexy to be sacked?:confused:

i quote urs...but question to dato...;)...relax...

[Pemuda]

i quote urs...but question to dato...;)...relax...

Ok love and kisses then ;)

[badadum]

i quote urs...but question to dato...;)...relax...

Another occurrence of reading comprehension failure?? This is getting to be too much of coincidence. ;)

[Pemuda]

Another occurrence of reading comprehension failure?? This is getting to be too much of coincidence. ;)

It should be ; this is getting too much of a coincidence. Like I said, you got more than just reading comprehension problems.

If you would read limy's reply carefully, you will see he quoted my statement. Thus my response. But I dont expect you to understand something a little bit higher than elementary.

[badadum]

It should be ; this is getting too much of a coincidence. Like I said, you got more than just reading comprehension problems.

If you would read limy's reply carefully, you will see he quoted my statement. Thus my response. But I dont expect you to understand something a little bit higher than elementary.

Well considering even an elementary student would understands that:


....but just curious why Dato
think CSK is suitable replacement...


were meant for to DATO, yet it's PEMUDA that got defensive and replied:



Dude, when did I say CSK is an ideal replacement??


Conclusion: Pemuda's reading comprehension is below elementary? :confused:

Next time my boy, do try to read and understand more on what a post meant, instead of trying to be the grammar police of the board. Then again, if elementary is beyond you, that might be too much of a task.

[Pemuda]

Well considering even an elementary student would understands that:


were meant for to DATO, yet it's PEMUDA that got defensive and replied:



Conclusion: Pemuda's reading comprehension is below elementary? :confused:

Next time my boy, do try to read and understand more on what a post meant, instead of trying to be the grammar police of the board. Then again, if elementary is beyond you, that might be too much of a task.

Oh deary me, how low can one get?? :o You are resorting to cutting out bits here and there to distort facts? tsk tsk tsk

Here's the original posting;

http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1077685&postcount=109

http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1077700&postcount=110

[badadum]

Oh deary me, how low can one get?? :o You are resorting to cutting out bits here and there to distort facts? tsk tsk tsk

Here's the original posting;

http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1077685&postcount=109

http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1077700&postcount=110

LOL, distorting the facts? My boy, lets be honest here, when danielwong made that post and question Dato, why did you reply instead with a very specific reply back to danielwong? Isn't that because you misunderstand the question was intended to Dato to begin with and thought it was directed toward you??

Anyone else here begs to differ on that?

[Dato A]

LOL, distorting the facts? My boy, lets be honest here, when danielwong made that post and question Dato, why did you reply instead with a very specific reply back to danielwong? Isn't that because you misunderstand the question was intended to Dato to begin with and thought it was directed toward you??

Anyone else here begs to differ on that?

What is the problem whem Pemuda is answering the question? Dissallowed in BC?:rolleyes:

[Pemuda]

What is the problem whem Pemuda is answering the question? Dissallowed in BC?:rolleyes:

Dont teach that boy so much, Dato. He is unaware that this is a forum. He thinks we are in some PM thingy or something.

But I dont blame the boy because how would you expect someone to know that this is a forum when one is having trouble understanding the difference between greater than 50% and just 50%. :D

[Pemuda]

LOL, distorting the facts? My boy, lets be honest here, when danielwong made that post and question Dato, why did you reply instead with a very specific reply back to danielwong? Isn't that because you misunderstand the question was intended to Dato to begin with and thought it was directed toward you??

Anyone else here begs to differ on that?

In the same vein, when I asked George whether he think KKK/TBH can win the AE this year, why did you reply?? You misunderstand the question was intended to George to begin with and thought it was directed toward you?


Fine by me. I say KKK/TBH will fufill their seeding in AE.

Now, for someone who is harping on reading comprehension and all, let me tell you boy that this is a forum. And if you dont understand what is a forum, please take my earlier advise to you ... go and invest in a pocket dictionary.

[Dato A]

Dont teach that boy so much, Dato. He is unaware that this is a forum. He thinks we are in some PM thingy or something.

But I dont blame the boy because how would you expect someone to know that this is a forum when one is having trouble understanding the difference between greater than 50% and just 50%. :D

Not only him i guess, u forgot to count on his followers, whose already brain-washed by him.:D

[badadum]

Not only him i guess, u forgot to count on his followers, whose already brain-washed by him.:D

Well thank you, didn't know I have followers here, ready to my bidding at the snap of a finger. :D






Fine by me. I say KKK/TBH will fufill their seeding in AE.

Now, for someone who is harping on reading comprehension and all, let me tell you boy that this is a forum. And if you dont understand what is a forum, please take my earlier advise to you ... go and invest in a pocket dictionary


Now where the heck is the correlation between the post you quoted and your reply????? And you wonder why your reading comprehension is being questioned?? :cool:

[Pemuda]

Well thank you, didn't know I have followers here, ready to my bidding at the snap of a finger. :D



Now where the heck is the correlation between the post you quoted and your reply????? And you wonder why your reading comprehension is being questioned?? :cool:

Refer to the above, my boy.

[Pemuda]

Well thank you, didn't know I have followers here, ready to my bidding at the snap ofa finger. :D

Dude, since you are a stickler and a firm advocator of reading comprehension, I believe the correct sentence structure should be ...'ready to do my bidding' rather than 'ready to my bidding' :o

Practice what you preach, remember?

[Dato A]

CSK has done his best at BAM. Under his guidance, the women doubles players – especially the current number one pair of Chin Eei Hui-Wong Pei Tty – had achieved great milestones.

They won the SEA Games gold medal at Manila and were also the gold medallists at last year's Commonwealth Games in Melbourne. The duo defeated world number one pair of Zhang Yawen-Wei Yili of China in the first round of the Danish Open in October.

CSK has really bring significant changes in the Women's Department of Mas badminton sports.Regretably, some fellows here forgot the fundamental works that has carried out by CSK in the WD, and only put their appraisal words on REXY Mainaky, who take over the job form CSK....

What have YKH done for the WD in mas badminton sports/what is his major achievements in MAS badminton sports, If someone here stated that CSK is not the right candidadates to replace him?

[badadum]

Dude, since you are a stickler and a firm advocator of reading comprehension, I believe the correct sentence structure should be ...'ready to do my bidding' rather than 'ready to my bidding' :o

Practice what you preach, remember?

Wow, who died and make you the grammar police in this forum? Maybe Kwun and Oldhand can confirm this? :rolleyes:

[badadum]

CSK has done his best at BAM. Under his guidance, the women doubles players – especially the current number one pair of Chin Eei Hui-Wong Pei Tty – had achieved great milestones.

They won the SEA Games gold medal at Manila and were also the gold medallists at last year's Commonwealth Games in Melbourne. The duo defeated world number one pair of Zhang Yawen-Wei Yili of China in the first round of the Danish Open in October.

CSK has really bring significant changes in the Women's Department of Mas badminton sports.Regretably, some fellows here forgot the fundamental works that has carried out by CSK in the WD, and only put their appraisal words on REXY Mainaky, who take over the job form CSK....


And in comparison to the Sea Games and Commonwealth games title, my dear Dato, Rexy's chagrin has won (in no order whatsoever):
AE, AG, MO, DO, SO, SO (Swiss), IO, PO, SSM......
while beating the top pairs from (in no order whatsoever again):
China, Indonesia, Korea, Denmark.....

Again, based on those results, what makes you think CSK is a better replacement for Rexy? :confused:

[Oldhand]

(Copied from another noisy and chaotic thread)

You guys would make very poor trial lawyers :rolleyes:

It's not because you don't have sound arguments or style.
It's simply because you keep addressing each other.
And that's certainly not what constitutes a sane debate.

Let's not hear more of what one thinks of the other, please :(

[Dato A]

And in comparison to the Sea Games and Commonwealth games title, my dear Dato, Rexy's chagrin has won (in no order whatsoever):
AE, AG, MO, DO, SO, SO (Swiss), IO, PO, SSM......
while beating the top pairs from (in no order whatsoever again):
China, Indonesia, Korea, Denmark.....

Again, based on those results, what makes you think CSK is a better replacement for Rexy? :confused:

Please bear in mind that mas players, especially from Mens Dept is strong competitor in the world badminton sports for decades. So what is the big deal that mas male, especially MD's can produce good results? And MD's always producing good results even before the in-charged of YKH, and your defended FT, probably from your originated country(correct me if i am wrong), Rexy Manaiky?

Things getting different in WD in mas badminton sports.It is not an easy job to bring mas WD level today. And the coach that had contributed towards the great achievement/ progress of it is Cheah Soon Kit. And i am sure he is deserve to get respect from us, or maybe u.:cool:

[badadum]

Please bear in mind that mas players, especially from Mens Dept is strong competitor in the world badminton sports for decades. So what is the big deal that mas male, especially MD's can produce good results? And MD's always producing good results even before the in-charged of YKH, and your defended FT, probably from your originated country(correct me if i am wrong), Rexy Manaiky?

Things getting different in WD in mas badminton sports.It is not an easy job to bring mas WD level today. And the coach that had contributed towards the great achievement/ progress of it is Cheah Soon Kit. And i am sure he is deserve to get respect from us, or maybe u.:cool:

Dear Dato, you said MAS MD dept is a strong competitor...but IIRC, there has not been an AE nor AG winner from your so-called strong MAS MD since the era of the Sidek brothers (AE) and even worse...Punch Gunalan/Ng Bonn Be (AG)...(we're talking decades here!), before Rexy took over. I won't touch WC since that's still lacking even now.

Did I say I don't respect CSK? I believe I even acknowledge that the man might very well be an excellent coach. The problem is, I don't see how, based on his current result, that he can be any better than Rexy.

Now if you care to explain how you come about to this conclusion, please go ahead, since the results is simply not there to support it.

[Dato A]

Dear Dato, you said MAS MD dept is a strong competitor...but IIRC, there has not been an AE nor AG winner from your so-called strong MAS MD since the era of the Sidek brothers (AE) and even worse...Punch Gunalan/Ng Bonn Be (AG)...(we're talking decades here!), before Rexy took over. I won't touch WC since that's still lacking even now.

Did I say I don't respect CSK? I believe I even acknowledge that the man might very well be an excellent coach. The problem is, I don't see how, based on his current result, that he can be any better than Rexy.

Now if you care to explain how you come about to this conclusion, please go ahead, since the results is simply not there to support it.

What are the great achievements for being a coach by Rexy before he came to mas and take in-charged as mas coach? And YKH also? (I noticed that u keep avoiding this question even though Pemuda ask for so many times)

U questioned the ability of CSK not a suitable candidates to replace either Rexy or YKH, BASED ON THE PAST RECORDS OF BEING COACH.

If Rexy/YKH can, why CSK no? Double standard applied?:rolleyes:

[badadum]

What are the great achievements for being a coach by Rexy before he came to mas and take in-charged as mas coach? And YKH also? (I noticed that u keep avoiding this question even though Pemuda ask for so many times)


Considering I have no idea what exactly YKH role is your national team, then why should I even try to answer something that I've no understanding in? :confused:

As for Rexy, his chagrin won the AE title while being the headcoach in England (quite successful stint in the eyes of many). Not good enough for you?



U questioned the ability of CSK not a suitable candidates to replace either Rexy or YKH, BASED ON THE PAST RECORDS OF BEING COACH.
If Rexy/YKH can, why CSK no? Double standard applied?:rolleyes:

Again Dear Dato, I believe I'm questioning CSK's qualification to replace Rexy....never did I mention YKH. Go back and read slowly and carefully the previous posts before if you still not clear of the reasoning. And if you still questioning it, read the post 2 paragraph above this one for additional reasoning.

[ants]

I think based on the Msian Doubles formula.. if they can't be consistent.. then create more pairs that is not consistent. Meaning.. if one pair lose... the other pairs win.. and vice versa in each or different tournaments.. then we dont need to have a consistent pair.
Coz no matter what.. Msian will most likely in the podium. hehehe

[badadum]

I think based on the Msian Doubles formula.. if they can't be consistent.. then create more pairs that is not consistent. Meaning.. if one pair lose... the other pairs win.. and vice versa in each or different tournaments.. then we dont need to have a consistent pair.
Coz no matter what.. Msian will most likely in the podium. hehehe

Well, you guys do have more than 1 pairs...Its just that they're not peaking @ the same time (KKK/TBH - late 2006 - 2007, Fuzzy pair - mid 2008). MAS MD future should be bright though.
(which prompt the question, why on earth someone even dare to suggest replacing the coach of MD??)

[danielwong]

Well, you guys do have more than 1 pairs...Its just that they're not peaking @ the same time (KKK/TBH - late 2006 - 2007, Fuzzy pair - mid 2008). MAS MD future should be bright though.
(which prompt the question, why on earth someone even dare to suggest replacing the coach of MD??)


maybe just an act of impulse or wanna provide more options....:D:D:D
but YKH already left...now is showtime for Rexy or face the wrath of Dato...

[Dato A]

Well, you guys do have more than 1 pairs...Its just that they're not peaking @ the same time (KKK/TBH - late 2006 - 2007, Fuzzy pair - mid 2008). MAS MD future should be bright though.
(which prompt the question, why on earth someone even dare to suggest replacing the coach of MD??)

And why on earth someone can come out with 'Greater/Less than 50% theory' also?

[badadum]

And why on earth someone can come out with 'Greater/Less than 50% theory' also?

I thought you're closing the thread...yet now you post again in it. What's with the flip flopping???

And as stated before, if your idea of a replacement for Rexy is someone whose track record is not even up to Rexy's....why bother even recommending such person?? You supposed to progress forward, not backward. Clear enough reasoning for you my dear Dato?

Now how bout explaining your reasoning why CSK is a better replacement than Rexy???..Because results wise, they're not even close. Neither does their track record.

[Pemuda]

I thought you're closing the thread...yet now you post again in it. What's with the flip flopping??

The chances of this closing is greater than 50%... no, I mean 50%.

... errr... its greater than 50%.

[badadum]

The chances of this closing is greater than 50%... no, I mean 50%.

... errr... its greater than 50%.

Glad that you find that to be entertaining.

[Pemuda]

Glad that you find that to be entertaining.

Thank you for providing the entertainment.

[Dato A]

I thought you're closing the thread...yet now you post again in it. What's with the flip flopping???

And as stated before, if your idea of a replacement for Rexy is someone whose track record is not even up to Rexy's....why bother even recommending such person?? You supposed to progress forward, not backward. Clear enough reasoning for you my dear Dato?

Now how bout explaining your reasoning why CSK is a better replacement than Rexy???..Because results wise, they're not even close. Neither does their track record.

Yes. I did. But i found that you are the 1st one to still reply eventough i already type the word -----thread closed-----. Do u find hard to understand the phrase anyway?:p

And u still keep on asking the same question again and again. :confused:

CSK'S coaching achievements is not as good as Rexy. Reason: Rexy have the chance to coach MD, and CSK do not. It is an unfair to compare them together. Unless they are both coach in the same department. Then it is acceptable, as per your conclusion - Rexy is better than CSK.

A question to ask u. What is your opinion on the effort if bringing up the WD of mas at today's level? Do u think that Rexy is the man or CSK?

[badadum]

Yes. I did. But i found that you are the 1st one to still reply eventough i already type the word -----thread closed-----. Do u find hard to understand the phrase anyway?:p


Well considering that you post in this thread again after making that statement, apparently you have problem understanding your own post as well....if that's the case how do you expect others to understand it? :rolleyes:




CSK'S coaching achievements is not as good as Rexy.

Took you long enough to realize it, but better late than never.



Reason: Rexy have the chance to coach MD, and CSK do not.
It is an unfair to compare them together. Unless they are both coach in the same department. Then it is acceptable, as per your conclusion - Rexy is better than CSK.
But my dear Dato, they did coach in the same department....Rexy was in charge of the English double's team. Last time I checked, that's also include WD. His chagrin was one of the top WD in the world (not China's WD level, but consistent top 10).
Any more argument you want to bring up so it can be dispel immediately???

[badadum]

But my dear Dato, they did coach in the same department....Rexy was in charge of the English double's team. Last time I checked, that's also include WD. His chagrin was one of the top WD in the world (not China's WD level, but consistent top 10).


Whoops, looks like I made a mistake here. The head coach was Ian Wright and not Rexy. I could've sworn he was the head coach for the doubles team though....

[george@chongwei]

Thank you for providing the entertainment.
without you, the entertainment wont be going on:D

[Pemuda]

without you, the entertainment wont be going on:D

Thank you for extending it.

[danielwong]

Thank you for extending it.


oh...camon....everybody is part of it anyway
welcome to the circus.....:D:D:D:D

[Dato A]

Well considering that you post in this thread again after making that statement, apparently you have problem understanding your own post as well....if that's the case how do you expect others to understand it? :rolleyes:



Took you long enough to realize it, but better late than never.

But my dear Dato, they did coach in the same department....Rexy was in charge of the English double's team. Last time I checked, that's also include WD. His chagrin was one of the top WD in the world (not China's WD level, but consistent top 10).
Any more argument you want to bring up so it can be dispel immediately???

1. U are the 1st one to start it again, followed by Limsy, not me. U should be able to distinguish the difference between 1st, 2nd and followings, i guess.

2. Rexy is better than CSK, thus CSK is not qualified to replace's Rexy's place, as per your opinion. What abt PJB being replace by RM?(correct me if i am wrong), and Limao being replace by Misbun Sidek? (Again, correct me if i am wrong)

3. U put the level of English WD's same level with mas WD's at the time both respective coach coaching the respective pairs? I find your comparison is a bit unacceptable. (sorry to said that)

[badadum]

1. U are the 1st one to start it again, followed by Limsy, not me. U should be able to distinguish the difference between 1st, 2nd and followings, i guess.


Hmm, I must've miss the big warning sign stating that whenever our dear Dato here posted that "Thread Closed" means anyone else can't post on that threat ever again. Please do point to the board's policy stating that. :rolleyes:



2. Rexy is better than CSK, thus CSK is not qualified to replace's Rexy's place, as per your opinion. What abt PJB being replace by RM?(correct me if i am wrong), and Limao being replace by Misbun Sidek? (Again, correct me if i am wrong)


Err, why are you asking me? Those decision are made by your own BAM. Do I look like the head of BAM or something??? :confused:

Bottom line, Rexy has produce tangible results in England and MAS. The MAS MD currently boast 3 top pairs in the top 10, more than any other major MD power. Now, you better have a strong candidate if you want to replace someone that has produce such results. Dato himself admitted that when we compare the result and credentials of his candidate (CSK) and Rexy, CSK still fall short....
So again, why on earth do you even propose replacing Rexy with CSK??? :confused:

Perhaps Dato will just do a 180 like in the LCW thread and stated that it's not his intention to replace Rexy.....just YKH. ;)

[eaglehelang]

Hmmmm, I believe someone asked about what Rexy has achieved previously? When Rexy was with England team, their XD won 2004 OG silver= Nathan Robertson/Gail Emms, their best ever in baddy. Other tourneys offhand I cant recall. That was his credentials as a coach before coming to Malaysia. It was also one of the main reasons why they wanted to get Rexy.
Whilst in Msia, thus far, Rexy is the most successful foreign coach. Morten Frost, PJB, Li Mao did not manage to ehem......... go thru the politic maze in BAM, NSC, etc, to get stuff done.

As for CSK, WPT/CEH did thank CSK for his training when they won 2008 Denmark and Rexy himself did acknowledge CSK was the one who "honed WPT/CEH's skills".
Other than that, dont think CSK would come back to work for BAM, even now when Yap KH is not chief coach anymore. CSK does have a fiery temper, though somewhat mellowed with age.:p

Badadum - Yap KH is currently chief of BJSS. The previous chief, CHina coach, Sun, will be Rashid's assistant coach in the singles dept.;)

[huangkwokhau]

Hmmmm, I believe someone asked about what Rexy has achieved previously? When Rexy was with England team, their XD won OG silver, their best ever in baddy. Other tourneys offhand I cant recall. That was his credentials as a coach before coming to Malaysia.

As for CSK, WPT/CEH did thank CSK for his training when they won 2008 Denmark and Rexy himself did acknowledge CSK was the one who "honed WPT/CEH's skills".
Other than that, dont think CSK would come back to work for BAM, even now when Yap KH is not chief coach anymore. CSK does have a fiery temper, though somewhat mellowed with age.:p

Badadum - Yap KH is currently chief of BJSS. The previous chief, CHina coach, Sun, will be Rashid's assistant coach in the singles dept.;)

His name is Sun Cheng Hua.....

[Dato A]

Hmm, I must've miss the big warning sign stating that whenever our dear Dato here posted that "Thread Closed" means anyone else can't post on that threat ever again. Please do point to the board's policy stating that. :rolleyes:



Err, why are you asking me? Those decision are made by your own BAM. Do I look like the head of BAM or something??? :confused:

Bottom line, Rexy has produce tangible results in England and MAS. The MAS MD currently boast 3 top pairs in the top 10, more than any other major MD power. Now, you better have a strong candidate if you want to replace someone that has produce such results. Dato himself admitted that when we compare the result and credentials of his candidate (CSK) and Rexy, CSK still fall short....
So again, why on earth do you even propose replacing Rexy with CSK??? :confused:

Perhaps Dato will just do a 180 like in the LCW thread and stated that it's not his intention to replace Rexy.....just YKH. ;)

And who are you to judge CSK is not suitable candidates to replace Rexy?:rolleyes:

[badadum]

And who are you to judge CSK is not suitable candidates to replace Rexy?:rolleyes:

Oh I'm sorry, do we need certain credentials now to question a topic in your posting???? :rolleyes:

[huangkwokhau]

And who are you to judge CSK is not suitable candidates to replace Rexy?:rolleyes:
Be careful Dato...Badadum will reply as " then who are you to judge to replace rexy and YKH?".....:D have fun!!!

[badadum]

Be careful Dato...Badadum will reply as " then who are you to judge to replace rexy and YKH?".....:D have fun!!!

Well, I was gonna let him off since he's already undecided and flip flopping on the whole issue alltogether....but since you already brought it up....Dear Dato, care to explain?? ;)

[Dato A]

Dear Badadum,

I am giving my own opinion on the topic of ' It's time for Rexy and YKH to go.' This thread is started after mas MD failed miserably in the OG08.

I questioned on the selection of KKK/TBH to represents mas at OG. And i see at that time, Fuzzy is more fit and morally motivated since they are performing extremely well at that time.

What happened to TBH/KKK at OG? They went to shopping and The Great Wall after their poor performance in OG.

Choosing CTF/LWW to represent Mas at OG is rather giving them respect by serving national team for years, rather than based on their ability. If so, Fuzzy (at that time, really promising) is more suitable.

I started this thread after OG2008.

[george@chongwei]

Thank you for extending it.
well, to be honest, thats for sure;):D

[pBmMalaysia]

as they say 'time will tell' and i think it's nearly a year both still here and kkk/tbh has become world no.1 doubles pair...

[Dato A]

Now what??:rolleyes:

Rexy please go.

[george@chongwei]

So when the players fail, the fans blame on the coach. The player should be the one that be blamed for their defeat. The coach already done their best to coach and guide them.

[OneToughBirdie]

Time to clean house....who hire the coaches in the first place especially Rashid (what has he done that is worth a ringgit to mention of, sitting next to TSB like he is bored). Rexy, at least he produced AG and AE golds even though that seems like ages ago. The main handicap is the trio of NCC, Nadzmi and Kenny Goh in BAM and please take Bata James along on your way out. If BAM is serious about high performance BS, hire Kevin Cordon' coach and the Spanish coach, the way Abian and Kevin played I am surprised their legs are still there in the third set...now, that is high performance and fitness, apply that to Yoyo, KKK, HTH, Zakry who badly needed it.

[limsy]

Time to clean house....who hire the coaches in the first place especially Rashid (what has he done that is worth a ringgit to mention of, sitting next to TSB like he is bored). Rexy, at least he produced AG and AE golds even though that seems like ages ago. The main handicap is the trio of NCC, Nadzmi and Kenny Goh in BAM and please take Bata James along on your way out. If BAM is serious about high performance BS, hire Kevin Cordon' coach and the Spanish coach, the way Abian and Kevin played I am surprised their legs are still there in the third set...now, that is high performance and fitness, apply that to Yoyo, KKK, HTH, Zakry who badly needed it.

they will be safe if lcw win
and even lcw didnt
they still is safe

[pajrul]

i could understand booting all those other people.. but why yap kim hock?

[george@chongwei]

Look at when the thread was started;)

[extremenanopowe]

I think they all are too comfy with each other. You scratch my back, I scratch your back thingy.

I got a feeling that CSK could be the person to whip them up or break them apart and start fresh. ;)

Who do you reckon would fit the bill? From the way you look at their defence, the backup player who does the smashing training must be lousy or just fooling around with chicken smashes. Meaning too easy for kkk/tbh to defence during trainings, and when they come to big events, they crumbled and so predictable on where they will return. ;)

Something is seriously wrong here. ;) Suggestions pls. ;)

[undeadshot]

I think they all are too comfy with each other. You scratch my back, I scratch your back thingy.

I got a feeling that CSK could be the person to whip them up or break them apart and start fresh. ;)

Who do you reckon would fit the bill? From the way you look at their defence, the backup player who does the smashing training must be lousy or just fooling around with chicken smashes. Meaning too easy for kkk/tbh to defence during trainings, and when they come to big events, they crumbled and so predictable on where they will return. ;)

Something is seriously wrong here. ;) Suggestions pls. ;)

I think MAS men doubles are more well-known for defence than attack, except KKK/TBH. All the backup pairs are more of the drive type than big smashes.

[extremenanopowe]

Have you tried CSK smashes when he is peak? You will freeze... lol. ;) Ask Rexy. ;)

[pBmMalaysia]

Time to clean house....who hire the coaches in the first place especially Rashid (what has he done that is worth a ringgit to mention of, sitting next to TSB like he is bored). Rexy, at least he produced AG and AE golds even though that seems like ages ago. The main handicap is the trio of NCC, Nadzmi and Kenny Goh in BAM and please take Bata James along on your way out. If BAM is serious about high performance BS, hire Kevin Cordon' coach and the Spanish coach, the way Abian and Kevin played I am surprised their legs are still there in the third set...now, that is high performance and fitness, apply that to Yoyo, KKK, HTH, Zakry who badly needed it.I may not really know rashid well but I was with him before when he was doing multiple shuttles. Mind you he's good :) very skillful and accurate with his feedings :) But you all may ask why then his players never rise :D It's a good question and the same question if Lin Dan was thrown out,would china still wc2011? Or the same thing happening to taufik ? Coaching high performance players aren't the same as some of you Watching some coaches do multiple shuttle feeding, circuit training or whatever :pWhat really happens in bam are only known among the coaches and I really respect them, none has disclose whatsoever information :DBut one thing I do know, there are too many cooks and they spoil the soup :p :oAfter this wc result, are they doing something? I don't know :pMeanwhile take a guess :D NSC, BAM and CTC

[Dato A]

If Rexy is good, we already have 2nd reliable MD's, and 3rd, or even 4th.

BAM have a bunch of jokers playing badminton just for fun.

BAM spending money and players enjoying travel all around the world and get sent back mostly at the beginning stage of tournaments entered.

[pBmMalaysia]

If Rexy is good, we already have 2nd reliable MD's, and 3rd, or even 4th.BAM have a bunch of jokers playing badminton just for fun.BAM spending money and players enjoying travel all around the world and get sent back mostly at the beginning stage of tournaments entered.Dato, 4 reliable md? Maintaining one is already difficult :p :oThese days good men's doubles are everywhere ... :D

[jasonmarc]

Dato, 4 reliable md? Maintaining one is already difficult :p :oThese days good men's doubles are everywhere ... :D

Yes, thus far.......only INA and Kor manged to maintained 2 good pairs, chn managed only to keep one very good one with 4 WC titles.....and sadly MAS find it very hard to prevent their good pair from going down-hill all the way................:o:o

[ants]

Yap Kim Hock already left and he did great with the current juniors now. Rexy, i do hope he will stay in
Malaysia and they (BAM) may have to reshuffle his post.

[pBmMalaysia]

So ykh has left bam? There are rumor rexy won't be long in bam, don't know how true this is :p

[chris-ccc]

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Rexy is still doing a good job for BAM.

Hope that he will not leave.
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