Taufik Hidayat getting worse?

[romizone]

Anybody here can explain why Taufik getting worst ...
He is absolutely not good player anymore

I am still remember his legendary back hand smash ..
Its very rare technique.. from world class player

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050823/sp8.jpg

[cooler]

legendary backhand smashes dont win u matches or titles.
Mostly use as a show.

[ShuttleCocks]

plus he's getting older :O

[romizone]

legendary backhand smashes dont win u matches or titles.
Mostly use as a show.

Taufik is more handsome than Lin Dan:D:D:D

Obviously Taufik now is very rich .
He is very smart chossing rich wife , :D


hahahahahah

[Dreamzz]

i don't think his fitness is at the level it needs to be to compete with the top players these days.
also it's a case of motivation for him, it's a shame, i really enjoy watching taufik's matches when he's in-form and playing seriously.

[Felicia_txh]

i think he is already satisfy wif his success..so it's the time to let go his career as professional badminton player slowly..the 21-point system require speed n good stamina..so,he choose to let go..:rolleyes::o

[scann]

Anybody here can explain why Taufik getting worst ...
He is absolutely not good player anymore

I am still remember his legendary back hand smash ..
Its very rare technique.. from world class player

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050823/sp8.jpg


legendary backhand smashes dont win u matches or titles.
Mostly use as a show.

No, the above picture clearly show that the best backhand did win titles.:)

[huangkwokhau]

legendary backhand smashes dont win u matches or titles.
Mostly use as a show.
His backhand smashes got him many titles....cooler...

[huangkwokhau]

Also TH has been lazy in training as well.......anyway...he has a good life and his motivation is different than before.......people argued that his loss due to his illness but eventhough he was healthy...I did not see he could be a medal contender either......TH kept saying that he wished someone could take his spot but he would not give that spot to Simon as well......I think it is time for him to step down......

[phaarix]

legendary backhand smashes dont win u matches or titles.
Mostly use as a show.

So he shouldn't backhand smash if he has a good opportunity to do so? I'm sure you wouldn't be saying that if a certain other player was known for his backhand smashes...

[huangkwokhau]

So he shouldn't backhand smash if he has a good opportunity to do so? I'm sure you wouldn't be saying that if a certain other player was known for his backhand smashes...
:D:D as long as you did not criticise LD.....:D...cooler wont be cool anymore...:p
Honestly all players will be slowed down when hitting certain age..of course there is some exception like Gade/Kenneth/ZN.....I am sure in few years there will be a thread " why LD keeps losing?"..I think it is normal..Also TH's real age is 29, not 27 ( I think we have reported in the thread like age cheating..)
Markis Kido is not 23 yrs as well....;)

[halvepizza93]

:D:D as long as you did not criticise LD.....:D...cooler wont be cool anymore...:p
Honestly all players will be slowed down when hitting certain age..of course there is some exception like Gade/Kenneth/ZN.....I am sure in few years there will be a thread " why LD keeps losing?"..I think it is normal..Also TH's real age is 29, not 27 ( I think we have reported in the thread like age cheating..)
Markis Kido is not 23 yrs as well....;)

ok, now how do you know that?

[huangkwokhau]

ok, now how do you know that?
.......check your PM

[huangkwokhau]

TH will quit right away if Icuk gets elected as PBSI chairman...it is known that TH and Icuk never gets along...........

[Ai Mei]

really?
kido isnt 23?
has he just turned 24 (11 august)??

[volcom]

:D:D as long as you did not criticise LD.....:D...cooler wont be cool anymore...:p
Honestly all players will be slowed down when hitting certain age..of course there is some exception like Gade/Kenneth/ZN.....I am sure in few years there will be a thread " why LD keeps losing?"..I think it is normal..Also TH's real age is 29, not 27 ( I think we have reported in the thread like age cheating..)
Markis Kido is not 23 yrs as well....;)
So TH was 18 when he first made it to the finals of AE

[huangkwokhau]

So TH was 18 when he first made it to the finals of AE
YEP.....................could be 19 ...

[volcom]

YEP.....................could be 19 ...
oh...... :(:(, really thought he was amazing, 16.... is just unbelievable

[huangkwokhau]

oh...... :(:(, really thought he was amazing, 16.... is just unbelievable
at that time, not only INA players, others as well........;)

[cooler]

His backhand smashes got him many titles....cooler...
hmm, not what i've seen, not with lin dan.

2006 Japan open, TH backhand smashed once, but LD returned all the rest of them.

2007 french Open, TH got applaused for his backhand smash on LD, but LD won the match no problem.

lets clear the record, TH beaten LD only at:
05 WC, 06 asian game single event,

LD won all the rest of head to head against TH: 05 sudirman, 06 asian game team, 06 JO, 06 HKO, 07 French open,

In 08, TH even lost to uncle WCH.

[huangkwokhau]

hmm, not what i've seen, not with lin dan.

2006 Japan open, TH backhand smashed once, but LD returned all the rest of them.

2007 french Open, TH got applaused for his backhand smash on LD, but LD won the match no problem.

lets clear the record, TH beaten LD only at:
05 WC, 06 asian game single event,

LD won all the rest of head to head against TH: 05 sudirman, 06 asian game team, 06 JO, 06 HKO, 07 French open,

In 08, TH even lost to uncle WCH.

We are not talking TH vs LD...come on...why not mention those titles that TH won before 2006.......???
well...Did not LD lose to RS and others too? I know you are not a TH fan....you do not need to details as in next 2 or 3 yrs, someone will dig up same thing too...

same thing like Yang Yang or Zhao Jian hua too....suddenly those 2 lost to all INA players...should we dig more??
This thread is about TH....

[cooler]

Also TH has been lazy in training as well.......anyway...he has a good life and his motivation is different than before.......people argued that his loss due to his illness but eventhough he was healthy...I did not see he could be a medal contender either......TH kept saying that he wished someone could take his spot but he would not give that spot to Simon as well......I think it is time for him to step down......not me, i've already said before the OG, the fever he had was a blessing to him, he was given a backup excuse in case he lost which he did.

[huangkwokhau]

not me, i've already said before the OG, the fever he had was a blessing to him, he was given a backup excuse in case he lost which he did.
TH did not give any excuse when he lost to WCH.......at least TH was gentleman and praised WCH....gotta give him credit....you are not his fan..psl do not bash him...you do not want me to bash LD as well...right? should we wait next 2 yrs and see if LD keeps performaing same level or not.....remains to be seen

[Krisna]

hmm, not what i've seen, not with lin dan.


Well, maybe you didn't see enough TH matches in the past. He did use his backhand smash in winning many titles in the past. Whether or not he had to face LD in the process of winning, that's totally not a requirement. LD more than once already lost before TH get the chance to defeat him. :p

TH won 6 INA Open titles, only got the chance to defeat LD once in INA Open [as far as I remember]. TH won the 2004 Olympic Gold medal because LD already lost so early. TH won the 2005 World Championship by beating... who was it that he defeated in the finals at Anaheim 2005? Please help me out here, cooler... I forgot.


TH did not give any excuse when he lost to WCH.......at least TH was gentleman and praised WCH....gotta give him credit.... should we wait next 2 yrs and see if LD keeps performing same level or not.....remains to be seen

Yup, TH said WCH played better than him at the Olympics. Simple statement, very sportsmanlike.

Going back to the topic of this thread... yes TH is getting worst now... :p In his prime, he was superb. Now, he is not in his prime anymore. It happens to everybody. Even to Federer, even to Sampras, even to Tang Xianhu, even to Rudy Hartono, even to Zhao Jianhua, even to Li Lingwei, even to Susi Susanti, even to Lin Dan one day... ;) Hau-ge raise a good point: can LD keep performing at this level for the next 2 years? ;)

[cooler]

TH did not give any excuse when he lost to WCH.......at least TH was gentleman and praised WCH....gotta give him credit....you are not his fan..psl do not bash him...you do not want me to bash LD as well...right? should we wait next 2 yrs and see if LD keeps performaing same level or not.....remains to be seen
no, i didnt say TH used that excuse, it is his fans:D

[huangkwokhau]

no, i didnt say TH used that excuse, it is his fans:D
But you suggested that it was back up excuse in case he lost..TH's fans were good......come on Cooler!!:D..I saw your post as well as regarding TH's on Athens 2004..;)

[cooler]

TH won 6 INA Open titles, only got the chance to defeat LD once in INA Open [as far as I remember]. TH won the 2004 Olympic Gold medal because LD already lost so early. TH won the 2005 World Championship by beating... who was it that he defeated in the finals at Anaheim 2005? Please help me out here, cooler... I forgot.

erhmm, i've already listed the TH vs LD matches in my earlier post #20. Only didnt know about one of the INA Open match. I know TH fans alway like to bring up the 04 athen title. Sure but i was talking about LD vs TH.
In 04 athen, all the top seeded players crashed due to mental block. Only hard match TH had was against PG. Come on, beating shon Mo in the final is not that challenging. Even the commentator who is not badminton expert, saw that shon mo shouldn't be there playing against TH. The difference in level is too obvious

[cooler]

But you suggested that it was back up excuse in case he lost..TH's fans were good......come on Cooler!!:D..I saw your post as well as regarding TH's on Athens 2004..;)
TH fans has a black book list of excuses for TH.
the fever one is sure a new innovative one to be added to that long list:p

[huangkwokhau]

erhmm, i've already listed the TH vs LD matches in my earlier post #20. Only didnt know about one of the INA Open match. I know TH fans alway like to bring up the 04 athen title. Sure but i was talking about LD vs TH.
In 04 athen, all the top seeded players crashed due to mental block. Only hard match TH had was against PG. Come on, beating shon Mo in the final is not that challenging. Even the commentator who is not badminton expert, saw that shon mo shouldn't be there playing against TH. The difference in level is too obvious
Come on....Even CH lost to Shon.....you had to give Shon a crdit...it was Olympic.....so I guess PSH and LCW lost to LD due to Mental Block too? these excuses are so lame......why chinese fans could not accept the loss.......haiya!!!!:cool:

[cooler]

Come on....Even CH lost to Shon.....you had to give Shon a crdit...it was Olympic.....so I guess PSH and LCW lost to LD due to Mental Block too? these excuses are so lame......why chinese fans could not accept the loss.......haiya!!!!:cool:
in 04 OG, shon was seeded way under CH, LD, etc .. mental reason for upsets

in 08 OG, PSH and LHI lost because they are lower seeded players to LCW and LD, OUTCOMES WERE EXPECTED. NO MENTAL ISSUES INVOLVED BUT LOSING TO PLAYERS WITH PURE TECHNICAL SUPERIORETY. no lame excuses heard from lhi or psh.

[Krisna]

erhmm, i've already listed the TH vs LD matches in my earlier post #20. Only didnt know about one of the INA Open match. I know TH fans alway like to bring up the 04 athen title. Sure but i was talking about LD vs TH.

Well, you were commenting on TH's backhand smash not being able to win matches... :p Oh, I forgot again, who did TH beat to win the 2006 Asian Games gold medal?!? Can you help me out here again please... :confused: And who was it again that lost to Taufik in the 2005 World Championship with his backhand smash combo. Can you please repost the answer just for my curiousity...



In 04 athen, all the top seeded players crashed due to mental block. Only hard match TH had was against PG. Come on, beating shon Mo in the final is not that challenging. Even the commentator who is not badminton expert, saw that shon mo shouldn't be there playing against TH. The difference in level is too obvious

Did Shon Sheung Mo cheat everybody in his draw? :confused: Oh my... how could they allow that? :eek: How come he didn't deserve to be there? Did he poison the rest of his draw? :eek: Did the Koreans bribe Chen Hong to loose? Did the Singaporeans play dirty tricks so that LD intentionally loose? :confused: OMG... how could BWF let that happen?

If he didn't... then his side of the draw was probably played fairly without illegal or scandalous controversy... I forgot, please refresh my memory... was there anything scandalous that happened in Shon's draw? :confused: If there weren't any, then Shon played fairly to be the best player in his side of the draw of that week.

[huangkwokhau]

in 04 OG, shon was seeded way under CH, LD, etc .. mental reason for upsets

in 08 OG, PSH and LHI lost because they are lower seeded players to LCW and LD, OUTCOMES WERE EXPECTED. NO MENTAL ISSUES INVOLVED BUT JUST PURE TECHNICAL SUPERIORETY
wow...it is no convenient for you to back up with such excuses.....
When you said OUTCOME WAS EXPECTED....so LD should not have lost to RS, right??? on your logic, Higher seeded should win....:cool::cool: thats really Lame excuses..coming from Chinese fans....just be brave to accept your players lost because your opponents played better....:cool::cool:

[huangkwokhau]

Cooler..is known how to twist the wording and changed to topics from TH's backhand to TH vs LD....:D:D he has to make sure that LD should win everything.....even LD lost....oops..

[huangkwokhau]

in 04 OG, shon was seeded way under CH, LD, etc .. mental reason for upsets

in 08 OG, PSH and LHI lost because they are lower seeded players to LCW and LD, OUTCOMES WERE EXPECTED. NO MENTAL ISSUES INVOLVED BUT LOSING TO PLAYERS WITH PURE TECHNICAL SUPERIORETY. no lame excuses heard from lhi or psh.
Thats right but we heard lame escuses from you at least.....:D:D

[cooler]

Well, you were commenting on TH's backhand smash not being able to win matches... :p Oh, I forgot again, who did TH beat to win the 2006 Asian Games gold medal?!? Can you help me out here again please... :confused: And who was it again that lost to Taufik in the 2005 World Championship with his backhand smash combo. Can you please repost the answer just for my curiousity...

NAH, i already posted enough time already:rolleyes: I can count time TH beating LD with one hand and i don't even have to use all the fingers LOLOLOL, not hard to forget TH's winnings right??? LOLOLOL

Did Shon Sheung Mo cheat everybody in his draw? :confused: Oh my... how could they allow that? :eek: How come he didn't deserve to be there? Did he poison the rest of his draw? :eek: Did the Koreans bribe Chen Hong to loose? Did the Singaporeans play dirty tricks so that LD intentionally loose? :confused: OMG... how could BWF let that happen?

If he didn't... then his side of the draw was probably played fairly without illegal or scandalous controversy... I forgot, please refresh my memory... was there anything scandalous that happened in Shon's draw? :confused: If there weren't any, then Shon played fairly to be the best player in his side of the draw of that week.

hmm, didn't i say the whole chinese team failed in 04 athen due to mental block enough time already? If shon got there by pure technical skills, consistency, stamina, etc, what title have shon earned before and after the 04 OG?........................

[huangkwokhau]

YEAH....Like TH beating CH all the time too.....hehe....

[cooler]

Thats right but we heard lame escuses from you at least.....:D:Dand what excuses from me were that for LHI and PSH?

[cooler]

Cooler..is known how to twist the wording and changed to topics from TH's backhand to TH vs LD....:D:D he has to make sure that LD should win everything.....even LD lost....oops..No, i was IN TOPIC.
LD never lost a match against TH when TH was using his super duper backhand smash. Sure TH have beaten other noobs with backhand smashes, but i dont think it was all due to his backhand smashes, but of course TH fans thinks so because it looks so cool. May i emphasize the word 'look'

[huangkwokhau]

and what excuses from me were that for LHI and PSH?
about Shon...not PSH.....;)...your excuses were Mental Block for LD.....LD did not make any excuses when he lost to RS...He praised him so why did you make an excuses for LD? you make LD look bad by doing that. Did LYB said that LD lost due to mental block? no......no...I did not hear that from China team..only his fans...;)

[huangkwokhau]

No, i was IN TOPIC.
LD never lost a match against TH when TH was using his super duper backhand smash. Sure TH have beaten other noobs with backhand smashes, but i dont think it was all due to his backhand smashes, but of course TH thinks so because it looks so cool.
Come on.......this is not the first time.....everytime we talked TH then you have to chip your LD in it...does not matter what topics...I guess in next 2 yrs, if LD keeps losing then I may do your favour....:D:D Actually it is cool....just like LD thinks his Jumping smash is cool too.....

[cooler]

Come on.......this is not the first time.....everytime we talked TH then yolu have to chip your LD in it...does not matter what topics...I guess in next 2 yrs, if LD keeps losing then I may do your favour....:D:D
sure go ahead, make my day:p

btw, i was in topic regarding LD vs TH in the thread

[Krisna]

Poor me... I forgot who TH defeated in the 2004 INA Open semifinals... I just remembered TH used a lot of backhand smash for either clean winners or set up for some other kill shots...

...and also what happened in that 2005 Singapore Open clash between TH and LD? I remembered TH used his cool backhand smash to win cool points. But I don't remember what eventually happened...! Can anybody help me? Cooler, you seem to know a little bit of badminton history. Help me out here... Please be helpful...

[huangkwokhau]

sure go ahead, make my day:p

btw, i was in topic regarding LD vs TH in the thread
Nope..you are not in the topic at all....pls do not use bunch of excuses..Cooler....;)..This is about TH....pls praise your LD on his thread....
So dont blame others if they bash LD like you just....what?? what again??:D

[cooler]

Poor me... I forgot who TH defeated in the 2004 INA Open semifinals... I just remembered TH used a lot of backhand smash for either clean winners or set up for some other kill shots...

...and also what happened in that 2005 Singapore Open clash between TH and LD? I remembered TH used his cool backhand smash to win cool points. But I don't remember what eventually happened...! Can anybody help me? Cooler, you seem to know a little bit of badminton history. Help me out here... Please be helpful...Nope, i dont remember those ones, honestly. Bascially LD is mentally weak in 2005 and before. I never denied that. In 05 WC MS final, LD was playing like a B+/A- player, he can't even return a simple drop shot when his body is there and racket readied.

[huangkwokhau]

Nope, i dont remember those ones, honestly. Bascially LD is mentally weak in 2005 and before. I never denied that. In 05 WC MS final, LD was playing like a B+/A- player, he can't even return a drop shot when his body is there and racket readied.
Blah...blah..blah...of course you forgot.....LD was top seeded..I think....what a lame excuse!!! so basically every time LD lost, either he was mentally weak, his mind was not ready.....hm..what else? oops..he was too slow to start the games....:D
Every players have ups and downs....you are laughing at TH....should we laugh at CH too??:cool:

[cooler]

Blah...blah..blah...of course you forgot.....LD was top seeded..I think....what a lame excuse!!! so basically every time LD lost, either he was mentally weak, his mind was not ready.....hm..what else? oops..he was too slow to start the games....:D
Every players have ups and downs....you are laughing at TH....should we laugh at CH too??:cool:yes, every players have their ups and down, but on LD vs TH record, LD has way more UPS than down LOLOLOLOL


what r u trying here huangk:confused: trying to top my 16,000 posts:confused::confused::p:p lololol

[huangkwokhau]

yes, every players have their ups and down, but on LD vs TH record, LD has way more UPS than down LOLOLOLOL
LOL............good to know...LOL....before..what?? ...:D:D it was so laughable coming from LD's fans....;)

[huangkwokhau]

yes, every players have their ups and down, but on LD vs TH record, LD has way more UPS than down LOLOLOLOL


what r u trying here huangk:confused: trying to top my 16,000 posts:confused::confused::p:p lololol
LOL>....did I see the mirror here?..trying to get top Kwun's posts:confused::confused::p:plolol

[Krisna]

Nope, i dont remember those ones, honestly.

Oh darn it... and I thought you knew a lot. I guess you're as clueless as I am. I wonder who else can help me... :confused:

[huangkwokhau]

Oh darn it... and I thought you knew a lot. I guess you're as clueless as I am. I wonder who else can help me... :confused:
LD can help you.......:D:D Cooler only remembers all LD's winnings.....thats positive side of cooler....:D

[cooler]

Oh darn it... and I thought you knew a lot. I guess you're as clueless as I am. I wonder who else can help me... :confused:since i only joined BC in late 2002, and didn't discuss about foreign players until in 2004, and i dont get to see (or download) any international tournament videos until 2005. That is my reason.

[huangkwokhau]

since i only joined BC in late 2002, and didn't discuss about foreign players until in 2004, and i dont get to see (or download) any international tournament videos until 2005. That is my reason.
But you saw TH's match vs Shon plus the rest.. if not..how did you know the commentators said that Shon was not challenging..:confused:...I recalled your comments on foreign players before 2004........
Thats okay.....people tend to forget the losses...:D:D

[Krisna]

since i only joined BC in late 2002, and didn't discuss about foreign players until in 2004, and i dont get to see (or download) any international tournament videos until 2005. That is my reason.

Oh, I see... no problem dude... I guess you just don't know enough about TH in his prime because you didn't get to watch a lot of him to have a valid opinion about his abilities between 2002 to 2005...

He did win a lot of matches back then. Before LD was ranked #1, TH was once ranked #1 in the world... he was superb. We in INA saw much more of him, naturally. We feel lucky to have experienced enough of his brilliance. :)

Now... not anymore... :o The TH era has ended... :o

[tekken]

If one player isn't exactly improving or winning anything... plus losing in early rounds, then what other facts do you need to prove that he is indeed getting worse?:confused:

[Athelete1234]

In TC2004, TH just destroyed KJ's confidence with that legendary crosscourt jumping backhand smash followed up by a fatal netshot. However, the rest of the match before that point was won due to TH's superior netplay, jumpsmash, speed, and stamina.

[volcom]

Come on....Even CH lost to Shon.....you had to give Shon a crdit...it was Olympic.....so I guess PSH and LCW lost to LD due to Mental Block too? these excuses are so lame......why chinese fans could not accept the loss.......haiya!!!!:cool:
CH always has great mental blocks in big tourneys like OG, AG, TC...
He was only pretty good in AE like most chinese players/

[george@chongwei]

th surely will play untill the asian games 2010 imo.

[phaarix]

Come on.......this is not the first time.....everytime we talked TH then you have to chip your LD in it...does not matter what topics...I guess in next 2 yrs, if LD keeps losing then I may do your favour....:D:D Actually it is cool....just like LD thinks his Jumping smash is cool too.....

Heh, yeppp... Cooler I can't even tell if you're serious or not? You can't honestly complain about Taufik's fans when in just about ANY thread to do with Taufik you either compare him to Lin Dan or make some other provocative comment about him.

You can't really blame his fans for getting defensive when you're out there - everywhere - doing all the attacking! And if anyone says anything about Lin Dan (usually because YOU brought him into the thread in the first place!!)... there you are doing pretty much the same thing as what you accuse Taufik's fans of!

Hypocrisy :D!

And your EXCUSE? "I like to balance things out a bit"... Well honestly I think I've seen far more of it from you than any other member. Balancing things out is no excuse, it's not going to solve anything. It's like kids always having to get "even" to the point where it just goes on and on...

There's no *good* reason for what you're doing, but as I know how stubborn you can be I guess it's unlikely you're ever going to stop :rolleyes:.

[cooler]

But you saw TH's match vs Shon plus the rest.. if not..how did you know the commentators said that Shon was not challenging..:confused:...I recalled your comments on foreign players before 2004........
Thats okay.....people tend to forget the losses...:D:D

hmm, before 2004 means 2003, 2002, 2001, and so on
i bought the 2004 OG badminton dvds from Han in 2005. U can ask Han if u dont believe me.

[alonzo]

see!!!!taufik now in 10th rank!!!!...how strange!!!

[huangkwokhau]

hmm, before 2004 means 2003, 2002, 2001, and so on
i bought the 2004 OG badminton dvds from Han in 2005. U can ask Han if u dont believe me.
The point is you are against TH in any thread........you have to chip LD on it and you have to be fair....all players have his time.....we can talk about your LD in next 2 yrs and lets see how he cope with it.....;)

[huangkwokhau]

Heh, yeppp... Cooler I can't even tell if you're serious or not? You can't honestly complain about Taufik's fans when in just about ANY thread to do with Taufik you either compare him to Lin Dan or make some other provocative comment about him.

You can't really blame his fans for getting defensive when you're out there - everywhere - doing all the attacking! And if anyone says anything about Lin Dan (usually because YOU brought him into the thread in the first place!!)... there you are doing pretty much the same thing as what you accuse Taufik's fans of!

Hypocrisy :D!

And your EXCUSE? "I like to balance things out a bit"... Well honestly I think I've seen far more of it from you than any other member. Balancing things out is no excuse, it's not going to solve anything. It's like kids always having to get "even" to the point where it just goes on and on...

There's no *good* reason for what you're doing, but as I know how stubborn you can be I guess it's unlikely you're ever going to stop :rolleyes:.
:D:D.....thats our Cooler........:D he has to get LD in every thread..........no matter what....:rolleyes:.....sigh!! sigh!!!....

[huangkwokhau]

hmm, before 2004 means 2003, 2002, 2001, and so on
i bought the 2004 OG badminton dvds from Han in 2005. U can ask Han if u dont believe me.
Then give TH's credit......always respect other players if you want people respect yours.....LD even cant do backhand smash like TH ..LD praised TH but you bash TH like you are a pro player can beat TH......LOL.....

[fabcargo]

and???? thats it? no more posts now for this thread? i already got my popcorn and thought this thread is going to be HOTTER. :)

[Jagdpanther]

Taufik was a great player. He has talent, and he has strong mental to help him endure pressure during most intense moments. 2004 Athens OG gold is the proof.

Now? Not anymore, I'm afraid. That's why I use past tense.

Now, I hope he will gracefully step down and let younger ones to replace him...

[digswell]

For me Taufik is very good player....especially his backhand smach..super duper . until now i still no see other player like LD or other do can this kind of backhand smach.
In beijing2008 OG he lost..i think he hv some problem ..maybe is his own problem other maybe ....

[cooler]

Then give TH's credit......always respect other players if you want people respect yours.....LD even cant do backhand smash like TH ..LD praised TH but you bash TH like you are a pro player can beat TH......LOL.....
i do not see walking out on LD at 06 HKO, and purposely putting in no effort in the last part of 06 JO against LD, and making LD is arrogant remarks to the media is considered always respect other players. Yes, i'm no pro but i do know that having a great backhand smash doesn't make a great player. A great player is more than that.

[cooler]

Then give TH's credit......always respect other players if you want people respect yours.....LD even cant do backhand smash like TH ..LD praised TH but you bash TH like you are a pro player can beat TH......LOL.....
i do not see walking out on LD at 06 HKO, and purposely putting in no effort in the last part of 06 JO against LD, and making LD is arrogant remark to the media is considered always respecting other players. Yes, i'm no pro but i do know that having a great backhand smash doesn't make a great player. A great player is more than that.

[BadFever]

Sad to see a Taufik's thread turned into a "Taufik vs LD" thread again, just like most of LCW's thread. This "I like to balance things out a bit" has just turned the thread into a rubbish. RIP to this thread. :(

[cooler]

:D:D.....thats our Cooler........:D he has to get LD in every thread..........no matter what....:rolleyes:.....sigh!! sigh!!!....


Sad to see a Taufik's thread turned into a "Taufik vs LD" thread again, just like most of LCW's thread. This "I like to balance things out a bit" has just turned the thread into a rubbish. RIP to this thread. :(lets get the record straight, please read post #11, it was NOT cooler or any LD fans who introduced LD into this thread. I was only in defending something or someone(in this case LD) is wrongly presented.

If u dun like seeing LD discussed in TH thread, TH fans shouldn't bring it up in the first place.

[diana_19]

eventhougt taufik plays get worst, but now he get coolest and more handsome, i think

[phaarix]

lets get the record straight, please read post #11, it was NOT cooler or any LD fans who introduced LD into this thread. I was only in defending something or someone(in this case LD) is wrongly presented.

If u dun like seeing LD discussed in TH thread, TH fans shouldn't bring it up in the first place.

Yes, but you made an arguably quite unnecessary remark about one little part of the original post that really wasn't what the topic was about. And seeing as we know who's been going on and on and on about Taufik VS Lin Dan lately :rolleyes:... I know exactly what you meant by that comment. So yes, you DID bring Lin Dan into this thread. However subtly that might be :).

Oh and what number was that post? Post #2?! Look who saw a thread titled "Taufik" and just HAD to be a part of it!

It's as if to you, the mere mention of something positive to do with Taufik is somehow an attack on Lin Dan. As if Lin Dan has to be better in absolutely every way, and you've always got to be there to make a point of it. To bring Taufik down to size... :S

And how many times have you brought up Taufik's little controversies? A certain other player has had plenty of little controversies of his own (god I'm sick of pointing that out - "people" always somehow manage to *conveniently* forget such things), but you and I still both respect him. Because we can look past them can't we? We can look past them because we know he's human.

[huangkwokhau]

i do not see walking out on LD at 06 HKO, and purposely putting in no effort in the last part of 06 JO against LD, and making LD is arrogant remarks to the media is considered always respect other players. Yes, i'm no pro but i do know that having a great backhand smash doesn't make a great player. A great player is more than that.
I do know that Jumping smash from LD wont make him great player either...
Anyway...this thread about TH...pls put your LD aside........;)

[huangkwokhau]

Sad to see a Taufik's thread turned into a "Taufik vs LD" thread again, just like most of LCW's thread. This "I like to balance things out a bit" has just turned the thread into a rubbish. RIP to this thread. :(
Yep...Cooler has to put LD in every department......:D:D

[cooler]

Yes, but you made an arguably quite unnecessary remark about one little part of the original post that really wasn't what the topic was about. And seeing as we know who's been going on and on and on about Taufik VS Lin Dan lately :rolleyes:... I know exactly what you meant by that comment. So yes, you DID bring Lin Dan into this thread. However subtly that might be :).
what? i can't say things freely here? I didn't make any allegations, my comments are backed with facts, ie, known historical events. Look, i'm typing the words Lin Dan, Lin Dan here, lol. It seem you scare of hearing about Lin Dan. Wow, didn't knew LD struck fear to some people.

Oh and what number was that post? Post #2?! Look who saw a thread titled "Taufik" and just HAD to be a part of it!
you are free to read, and post in LD threads too. I'm not discriminating and also, I don't own this forum. Feel free to browse around in BF I might add

It's as if to you, the mere mention of something positive to do with Taufik is somehow an attack on Lin Dan. As if Lin Dan has to be better in absolutely every way, and you've always got to be there to make a point of it. To bring Taufik down to size... :S
whatever i've said about TH, all supported with facts/statistics

And how many times have you brought up Taufik's little controversies?

how many 'why taufik lost' threads have i started?

Find m A certain other player has had plenty of little controversies of his own (god I'm sick of pointing that out - "people" always somehow manage to *conveniently* forget such things), but you and I still both respect him. Because we can look past them can't we? We can look past them because we know he's human.

ah..., another new excuse for TH, he's human. Hmmm, i think it is not as innovative as previous ones tho............................

[huangkwokhau]

i do not see walking out on LD at 06 HKO, and purposely putting in no effort in the last part of 06 JO against LD, and making LD is arrogant remarks to the media is considered always respect other players. Yes, i'm no pro but i do know that having a great backhand smash doesn't make a great player. A great player is more than that.
Here we go again.....TH walked out from HKO due to Chinese umpire's comments.....Cooler...I can challenge you regardng LD's arrogant if you like....Again...Put your LD aside in this thread.....!! this thread aboutTH.....pls mind your chinese players' business on other thread.......

[huangkwokhau]

............................
Cooler...I think you should stop there.....you are the first one to provoke TH.......

Again this thread about TH...not your LD..........
BTW...TH owned LD in WC 2005 too......LOL
We are not scared about LD..........just sick of you to put LD in damn every thread.....

[cooler]

Here we go again.....TH walked out from HKO due to Chinese umpire's comments.....Cooler...I can challenge you regardng LD's arrogant if you like....Again...Put your LD aside in this thread.....!! this thread aboutTH.....pls mind your chinese players' business on other thread.......
So, TH was disrespectful to the umpire, line judge AND to his opponent. Ahhhhh, ok, thanks for the clarification.

[huangkwokhau]

So, TH was disrespectful to the umpire, line judge AND to his opponent. Ahhhhh, ok, thanks for the clarification.
Like LD was disrecpectful to umpires too....in KO?
Cooler..pls be careful if you do not know the detaill...

I have ask you to stop to Provoke TH...if you do it..I and other INA fans will provoke your players in every corner...trust me.!..I will do it and if you want me to kill all those threads.....just think about it!!
If you do not make peace on this thread..I will do same on yours as well....;)

[cooler]

i am totally baffled, how can i provoke taufik when he is not here, nor he visit this forum.

btw, did i say anything about LD being honey and sweet to umpires. We all know and saw LD got a yellow card at the 08 KO. Come on, we all saw that video several times.

[cooler]

Like LD was disrecpectful to umpires too....in KO?
Cooler..pls be careful if you do not know the detaill...

I have ask you to stop to Provoke TH...if you do it..I and other INA fans will provoke your players in every corner...trust me.!..I will do it and if you want me to kill all those threads.....just think about it!!

go ahead, make mod's day

If you do not make peace on this thread..I will do same on yours as well....;).

you are making threats.

I play by the rule.

[huangkwokhau]

..............................
Yes.....we will......By the way....China's WO is the most disrespectful , not only for BWF but for spectators as well as umpires too......

[huangkwokhau]

.

you are making threats.

I play by the rule.
.....you provoke,,we will provoke,...it is not the threats,,we play by rules too...

[cooler]

See phaarix??, huangk is tempting me again:p

[huangkwokhau]

i am totally baffled, how can i provoke taufik when he is not here, nor he visit this forum.

btw, did i say anything about LD being honey and sweet to umpires. We all know and saw LD got a yellow card at the 08 KO. Come on, we all saw that video several times.
Then why you brought TH's walk ut from HKo to begin with??? whats your points???

[huangkwokhau]

See phaarix??, huangk is tempting me:p
:p:p.....you are tempting us with your LD in this thread......go ahead...;)

[cooler]

.....you provoke,,we will provoke,...it is not the threats,,we play by rules too...hmm, u r slandering lots of people here

[huangkwokhau]

hmm, u r slandering lots of people here
No.....you are the one slandering lots of people here........

[GunBlade008]

You guys are acting a bit childish, this thread should be closed because nothing constructive or on topic has been mentioned for the last 3 pages, just silly back and fourth bickering.

[huangkwokhau]

You guys are acting a bit childish, this thread should be closed because nothing constructive or on topic has been mentioned for the last 3 pages, just silly back and fourth bickering.
This is not the first time that he wanted to kill the thread.........I think we have him enough to put LD in all unnecessary threads....

[Oldhand]

Closing a thread won't put an end to this sort of one-on-one games ;)
The best course of action here is: Stick to the topic!

'Is Taufik Hidayat getting worse?' :rolleyes:

[huangkwokhau]

Closing a thread won't put an end to this sort of one-on-one games ;)
The best course of action here is: Stick to the topic!

'Is Taufik Hidayat getting worse?' :rolleyes:
Thank you but your stubborn Cooler has to put LD in it and provoked TH for no reason............;)

[phaarix]

what? i can't say things freely here? I didn't make any allegations, my comments are backed with facts, ie, known historical events. Look, i'm typing the words Lin Dan, Lin Dan here, lol. It seem you scare of hearing about Lin Dan. Wow, didn't knew LD struck fear to some people.

Same old twisting of the words, same old "facts", same old same old, so predictable. Once again for the millionth time, you can't state facts and leave out a whole load of other facts that work against you. You can say things freely sure, but there are limits. If that post was a one off it might have been tolerable. But I've seen plenty more of it from cooler. Years worth... >_>


you are free to read, and post in LD threads too. I'm not discriminating and also, I don't own this forum. Feel free to browse around in BF I might add

Yeah I sure am, considering I don't bash him.


whatever i've said about TH, all supported with facts/statistics

And ONCE AGAIN, ignoring other important "facts" to your own convenience. Also, I don't think the original post said anything about backhand smashes winning matches? So where did that come from? It's a provocative comment. There's no two ways about it.


how many 'why taufik lost' threads have i started?

How many "Why Taufik Lost" threads have you felt the need to "balance out" (make worse)?


ah..., another new excuse for TH, he's human. Hmmm, i think it is not as innovative as previous ones tho

HAH, I was talking about Lin Dan buddy! Please read my posts more carefully :).

Can you please try to understand that I'm not trying to make excuses for Taufik Hidayat? What I'm doing is trying to make you see that it takes TWO (well... at least two) to make a problem. Just like right here. So I think I'll stop now (yes - after I had just one last say in the matter - but hey, I'm like that! I guess you could say I'm stubborn too :P).


'Is Taufik Hidayat getting worse?' :rolleyes:

Yes :). And has been for the best part of the last 2 years!

[BadFever]

I have ask you to stop to Provoke TH...if you do it..I and other INA fans will provoke your players in every corner...trust me.!..I will do it and if you want me to kill all those threads.....just think about it!!
If you do not make peace on this thread..I will do same on yours as well....;)
I hope you don't mean it!! One uncool cooler is enuf. :(
I am glad there is no LD in the MD department, phew.
Go Markis/Hendra or CY/FHF or KKK/TBH. :D

[huangkwokhau]

I hope you don't mean it!! One uncool cooler is enuf. :(
I am glad there is no LD in the MD department, phew.
Go Markis/Hendra or CY/FHF or KKK/TBH. :D
:D:D........MODs may get headache......:p
you will never know...he may chip LD in MD too....:rolleyes:;)

[Jagdpanther]

Yes :). And has been for the best part of the last 2 years!
Actually, this is the VERY TRUE ANSWER of this thread original question...:o
So why all those bickering and bashing toward TH?:(

Come on.. He's our hero. Our former hero, that is...:(

[eaglehelang]

Actually, this is the VERY TRUE ANSWER of this thread original question...:o
So why all those bickering and bashing toward TH?:(

Come on.. He's our hero. Our former hero, that is...:(

Come on, why the :(, Indonesia had a hero in MS in 2004. Sony or Simon shall be your next heros :D. Taufik remains an example to follow as the OG champ, WC Champ, AG champ, that not good enuf?

2008 OG you have heros in Kido/Setiawan, mighty mouse/mighty pole & mighties they are ;):D. And heroine in Maria, hehe.

[Jagdpanther]

Come on, why the :(, Indonesia had a hero in MS in 2004. Sony or Simon shall be your next heros :D. Taufik remains an example to follow as the OG champ, WC Champ, AG champ, that not good enuf?

The only thing I don't like from him is that his performance has been rapidly, and drastically, going down. Not something I'd expect from a hero.
I have no problem with his celebrity-like life. As long as he plays well, go ahead. Reality?

And his last (most likely) OG. Even if he lost, I wanted him to lose heroically (rubber set, 20-22 24-22 27-29). But, look at him! Lost in his 1st match?! Straight set?! Terrible score?! Come on!:mad:

Borrowing BC's term: He's been Hafiz Hashim-ed...:(:mad:



2008 OG you have heros in Kido/Setiawan, mighty mouse/mighty pole & mighties they are ;):D. And heroine in Maria, hehe.
Well, I DO proud of them all. Especially Maria.
Hopefully, they won't follow TH's trend...

[eaglehelang]

The only thing I don't like from him is that his performance has been rapidly, and drastically, going down. Not something I'd expect from a hero.
I have no problem with his celebrity-like life. As long as he plays well, go ahead. Reality?

And his last (most likely) OG. Even if he lost, I wanted him to lose heroically (rubber set, 20-22 24-22 27-29). But, look at him! Lost in his 1st match?! Straight set?! Terrible score?! Come on!:mad:

Borrowing BC's term: He's been Hafiz Hashim-ed...:(:mad:


Well, I DO proud of them all. Especially Maria.
Hopefully, they won't follow TH's trend...

Hafiz Hashim-ed doesnt rhyme, ;) and it's giving HH too much credit, Taufik was 2004 OG champ, Hafiz only 2003 AE champ.
Yoyo is yoyo king, up & down, Taufik in 2007 & 2008, aft he won AG 2006 gold, has been, hmmmm, consistently stagnant :p

I suppose you mean Taufik losing to our uncle WCH straight sets is embarassing.

Kido, Setiawan wouldnt go down that route - they were still very quiet aft their WC 2007 win. I remember this pair as the only ones who looks glum aft winning titles, like they lost, :p.
Maria, looks like she still has the world to conquer.

[volcom]

Hafiz Hashim-ed doesnt rhyme, ;) and it's giving HH too much credit, Taufik was 2004 OG champ, Hafiz only 2003 AE champ.
Yoyo is yoyo king, up & down, Taufik in 2007 & 2008, aft he won AG 2006 gold, has been, hmmmm, consistently stagnant :p

I suppose you mean Taufik losing to our uncle WCH straight sets is embarassing.

Kido, Setiawan wouldnt go down that route - they were still very quiet aft their WC 2007 win. I remember this pair as the only ones who looks glum aft winning titles, like they lost, :p.
Maria, looks like she still has the world to conquer.
HH receives way too much credit, what else has this guy done except win AE03? This is the tourney where Lin Dan has been in 5 consecutive finals.

[ctjcad]

..TH is arguably a "past history"...(like someone said), perhaps since 2 yrs ago; although his SEA Games' MS title, last yr, was sort of probably his farewell major title..:rolleyes:

As for the in-between-back & forth exchange between Hau-ge and cooler, well, i thought i was reading a repeat script from the 2007 U.S. Open thread:p; although i see it as more of a silly entertainment (it's almost like the Pemuda vs. X Ball's version of bantering)...Perhaps in 4 yrs, we should all chip in to buy Hau-ge and cooler plane & badminton tix to watch the Olympics in London and enjoy some R&R; instead of spending time in this forum doing the same old routine..:p;)

[Dreamzz]

ah, never mind, TH should live in our memories as the great player he once was, everyone loses their edge towards the end of their career, be it when they are 25, 30 or 35. people decline for all sorts of different reasons, injuries, age, marriage, kids, money .... let's just thank him for all the great games he has entertained us with in the past and move on.

[Jagdpanther]

I suppose you mean Taufik losing to our uncle WCH straight sets is embarassing.

Considering the fact that he's the defending champion, losing in the 1st match, straight set, and terrible scoreline, somehow isn't acceptable. At all.

Please don't misunderstand me. I also give credit to MAS uncle for outplaying TH. It's just, well, TH's poor performance gave higher contribution for his fall.

[Krisna]

INA fans in INA can probably still see TH 2 more times this year:
2008 National Championships; in November.
2008 Superliga Badminton; in December [if there is no SS Finals].

After that, he may retire... :)

[Ningtyas]

INA fans in INA can probably still see TH 2 more times this year:
2008 National Championships; in November.
2008 Superliga Badminton; in December [if there is no SS Finals].

After that, he may retire... :)

Why must retire so soon? I am not ready to see TH retire yet....
we see many badminton stars come and go, yet TH is so unique and tak tergantikan (what's that in English).
I dislike many things about him, I hate it when friends tease me as a TH's fan, yet I must admit that I love watching his great play when he plays his best.

Is it not possible for him to bounce back? :rolleyes:

[ctjcad]

..what sort of motivation(s) for him to make his comeback??...:confused::p:confused:

[romizone]

Just adding a word
Tak tergantikan = irreplaceable ....


Why must retire so soon? I am not ready to see TH retire yet....
we see many badminton stars come and go, yet TH is so unique and tak tergantikan (what's that in English).
I dislike many things about him, I hate it when friends tease me as a TH's fan, yet I must admit that I love watching his great play when he plays his best.

Is it not possible for him to bounce back? :rolleyes:

[qinyujun]

He is a second to none athlete in the world and I like him and encourage!

[AlanY]

ah, never mind, TH should live in our memories as the great player he once was, everyone loses their edge towards the end of their career, be it when they are 25, 30 or 35. people decline for all sorts of different reasons, injuries, age, marriage, kids, money .... let's just thank him for all the great games he has entertained us with in the past and move on.
if only they know when to stop, ie right at the top. it's always that one last tournament to prove you're still the best. but unfortunately like so many before them just couldn't accept that until they are already on the downward slope of no return.

[AlanY]

Considering the fact that he's the defending champion, losing in the 1st match, straight set, and terrible scoreline, somehow isn't acceptable. At all.

but olympics is quite different as a 4 yearly tournament. 4 years is a long time particularly for singles. that's probably why we haven't had a defending champion successfully retained his/her title until this year with ZN against all odds.

[Oldhand]

if only they know when to stop, ie right at the top. it's always that one last tournament to prove you're still the best. but unfortunately like so many before them just couldn't accept that until they are already on the downward slope of no return.

Stopping is easy... but knowing when to stop isn't :)

When you are on the peak, you have only two choices - fight to retain your top spot, or take another step. Unfortunately, your next step can only be down ;)

For many champions, only an increasing frequency of failure brings home the realization that they are no longer the best. But then, the desire to fight that realization grabs them... and, more often than not, that desire doesn't let go until they have embarrassed their honourable selves.

Michael Schumacher, Sachin Tendulkar, David Beckham, Rudy Hartono... Taufik Hidayat could very well be in this list.

Very few retire from the scene when they are on the top of their game. One reason is that it's difficult to imagine that failure lies ahead when one is still winning.

Try telling Lin Dan to retire... he'd counter that with one word - Why? :p He might be in for a defeat (and a long downhill ride) in his very next tournament... but, now when he's just won the Olympic gold, he has no reason to think he will lose just ahead.

However, there have been exceptions like Donald Bradman and Jahangir Khan. Perhaps, they stepped down because they had monopolized their summits for so long that it was time to take the next step... the step down :)

I'm guessing that Taufik won't leave until he has sung his own elegy :rolleyes:

[AlanY]

Stopping is easy... but knowing when to stop isn't :)
you only know the best time to stop once you'd passed it. if LD quit now he'll be forever wonder if he'd denied himself for the chance for the second gold in 4 year's time. ZN is a good example, 4 years ago when she became the olympic champion at 29, wouldn't be the best time to stop?

[Ningtyas]

Stopping is easy... but knowing when to stop isn't :)

When you are on the peak, you have only two choices - fight to retain your top spot, or take another step. Unfortunately, your next step can only be down ;)

For many champions, only an increasing frequency of failure brings home the realization that they are no longer the best. But then, the desire to fight that realization grabs them... and, more often than not, that desire doesn't let go until they have embarrassed their honourable selves.

Michael Schumacher, Sachin Tendulkar, David Beckham, Rudy Hartono... Taufik Hidayat could very well be in this list.

Very few retire from the scene when they are on the top of their game. One reason is that it's difficult to imagine that failure lies ahead when one is still winning.

Try telling Lin Dan to retire... he'd counter that with one word - Why? :p He might be in for a defeat (and a long downhill ride) in his very next tournament... but, now when he's just won the Olympic gold, he has no reason to think he will lose just ahead.

However, there have been exceptions like Donald Bradman and Jahangir Khan. Perhaps, they stepped down because they had monopolized their summits for so long that it was time to take the next step... the step down :)

I'm guessing that Taufik won't leave until he has sung his own elegy :rolleyes:

I guess you are right. I read it somewhere that Taufik said he want to retire in a 'natural way', when he won't be able to compete with Ina's younger players anymore. :rolleyes: The media keep asking him the question "will you retire?"

[Dato A]

When the day HAFIZ able to beat Taufik, then he will retire...

[eaglehelang]

if only they know when to stop, ie right at the top. it's always that one last tournament to prove you're still the best. but unfortunately like so many before them just couldn't accept that until they are already on the downward slope of no return.

Unless their country wants them to continue due to lack of quality MS ;), not saying Indonesia doesnt have any.

WCH wanted to retire aft 2004 OG, but at the time, LCW was only 22, not matured/good/experienced enuf to take over. Of course WCH's achievements are nowhere compared to Taufik's or Lin Dan's but WCH, a degree holder, can make it pretty well in non badminton field had he retired at 27.
Same scenario again with LCW, looks like he'll have to hold the Msia MS fort till next OG, when he's 30, till his juniors are ready to take over from him.

[volcom]

I guess you are right. I read it somewhere that Taufik said he want to retire in a 'natural way', when he won't be able to compete with Ina's younger players anymore. :rolleyes: The media keep asking him the question "will you retire?"
Tendulkar has been losing it since 2003-04.
Even in 03 he was not the same Tendulkar of old... You could say his decline started at the turn of the century.
Murali is declining rapidly recently as well.

[huangkwokhau]

I guess you are right. I read it somewhere that Taufik said he want to retire in a 'natural way', when he won't be able to compete with Ina's younger players anymore. :rolleyes: The media keep asking him the question "will you retire?"
:D:D " natural way" means.........DIE.....;)

[volcom]

Taufik is still way better to watch than Simon

[rinewy]

I love Taufik:( its always joyful for me to c him win matches but stil have to accept the fact-lah he no longer played with 'killing Qi';). but stil love to c him around in some tourneys.....as i stil wanted to c him play:(:( tho he kind of clueless on court sometimes.:crying: addd oil ler...

[totorosan]

There have been instances of players making a comeback. Andre Agassi (he's tennis and not badminton) is one good example. He came out of nowhere to win some major tournaments. A lot of ppl have told him that he should retire since he can't possibly compete with the new players that are so much younger than him~ but he perservered... i think it's all about the fighting spirit.... Have not seen Tuafik's fighting spirit in the last few games.... perhaps dengue really hit him hard~ U can see the fighting spirit in LD's eyes as he started the Olympics match with LCW... somehow dun see it in LCW... which is a pity...

[madbad]

Tendulkar has been losing it since 2003-04.
Even in 03 he was not the same Tendulkar of old... You could say his decline started at the turn of the century.
Murali is declining rapidly recently as well.

Michael Vaughan is another example of a player in an endless free fall

[madbad]

There have been instances of players making a comeback. Andre Agassi (he's tennis and not badminton) is one good example. He came out of nowhere to win some major tournaments. A lot of ppl have told him that he should retire since he can't possibly compete with the new players that are so much younger than him~ but he perservered... i think it's all about the fighting spirit.... Have not seen Tuafik's fighting spirit in the last few games.... perhaps dengue really hit him hard~ U can see the fighting spirit in LD's eyes as he started the Olympics match with LCW... somehow dun see it in LCW... which is a pity...

Boxers specialize in the comeback game. Look at those who have retired and un-retired because of the lure of $$$. Evander Holyfield, George Foreman to name two.

[madbad]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this factor for Taufik's decline: SMOKING!

[Jagdpanther]

There's even some rumor about his using drugs as well...

[Dato A]

There's even some rumor about his using drugs as well...

If really he is using drug then his medical test will for sure not passed,correct?

[volcom]

If really he is using drug then his medical test will for sure not passed,correct?
But drugs like marijuana shouldn't be counted as in no way is it performance enhancing, but rather performance inhibiting.

[totorosan]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this factor for Taufik's decline: SMOKING!

Does he smoke? din know tat~

[george@chongwei]

Does he smoke? din know tat~
yes...he`s a smoker.

[totorosan]

Interesting... i would have thought most of the badminton players willl be banned from smoking~~ cause smoking will affect stamina~ haha

[volcom]

Interesting... i would have thought most of the badminton players willl be banned from smoking~~ cause smoking will affect stamina~ haha
I heard in Indonesia, most of the athletes endorse smoking and anyways they are sponsored by the Tobacco companies...

I heard from my indonesian friend, there is a really good soccer player from indonesia and he is a very serious smoker, like smokes during half time etc... but his fitness is still awesome.

[volcom]

Michael Vaughan is another example of a player in an endless free fall
Hmm, I feel sorry for the poor bloke, don't think he'll ever make it back to the team as solely as a batsmen... He's just a walking wicket liability to the team now, with the occasional flashes of brilliance.

[madbad]

Hmm, I feel sorry for the poor bloke, don't think he'll ever make it back to the team as solely as a batsmen... He's just a walking wicket liability to the team now, with the occasional flashes of brilliance.

He was basically living on borrowed time as captain. As a batsman, his confidence was shot. Can't see a way back for him. Anyway Pietersen must be given a serious run to lead the team

[totorosan]

I heard in Indonesia, most of the athletes endorse smoking and anyways they are sponsored by the Tobacco companies...

I heard from my indonesian friend, there is a really good soccer player from indonesia and he is a very serious smoker, like smokes during half time etc... but his fitness is still awesome.

But if the guy didn't smoke, he would probably be even more awesome? haha

[Krisna]

He is a second to none athlete in the world and I like him and encourage!

Maybe second to none in terms of natural talent and intelligence... But surely not in wisdom and discipline...

[Smichz]

TH is not a steady player.He got the skill to win.It's just the matter of whether he is willing or not.But he didn't have a strong motivation no more on winning.Seems that he's quite happy enough with what he got now.Age is not the biggest issue.That applies to PG..he is over 30 but he still play with love for badminton.It's the motivation,n clearly,TH is losing it.Hopefully we can see his playing in the top form again some time soon.

[Smichz]

I heard in Indonesia, most of the athletes endorse smoking and anyways they are sponsored by the Tobacco companies...

I heard from my indonesian friend, there is a really good soccer player from indonesia and he is a very serious smoker, like smokes during half time etc... but his fitness is still awesome.

I have heard that some indonesian players that's still playing until today,esp the boys,r smokers.Taufik is one of them.Couldn't tell u the rest,till u find it out urself.;)

[OneToughBirdie]

Maybe second to none in terms of natural talent and intelligence... But surely not in wisdom and discipline...

One of the top in terms of natural talent and intelligence i would concur...but 'second to none' is too far-fetched...I would rate ZJH better...the one game demolition of Joko would go down as one of the best display of badminton performance I have ever seen...or ever would see in my lifetime.

[Heong]

It almost seems that TH has not been concentrating after winning his Olympic Gold in Athens 2004..
Another reason could be because of lack of time in training since he has a family now.
He is definately capable of being the best but he just doesn't seem motivated enough.

[aulia]

Maybe he needs to be 'bad boy' again???:p:p

Adding his motivation...hehe...:D:D

But of course, he is not like before... I will keep him in my memories... Very talented player...:)

[Krisna]

It almost seems that TH has not been concentrating after winning his Olympic Gold in Athens 2004..
Another reason could be because of lack of time in training since he has a family now.
He is definately capable of being the best but he just doesn't seem motivated enough.

Maybe...

Yet, we saw him win:
2005 World Championship, beating Lin Dan in the finals
2006 Asian Games, beating Lin Dan in the finals
2007 INA National Championship, beating Sony Dwi Kucoro in the finals
;)

[cooler]

Maybe...

Yet, we saw him win:
2005 World Championship, beating Lin Dan in the finals
2006 Asian Games, beating Lin Dan in the finals
2007 INA National Championship, beating Sony Dwi Kucoro in the finals
;)

from wikipedia on taufik
TH also won the 2005 Singapore Open

Taufik was defeated three times by Lin Dan in 2006, at the Thomas Cup semi-final tie, Japan Open final and the Hong Kong Open where Taufik forfeited the match after what he thought was a bad line call at 4-1 to Lin in the first game.[2] Taufik defeated Lin Dan in the final of the 2006 Asian Games individual event on December 9 after losing twice to him in three days in the team event preliminaries and semi-finals. Taufik has an 8-4 losing record at present against Lin Dan, his ultimate rival.[3])

[ctjcad]

..(shame on you guys from Indonesia, who should know more about TNT's record)..;):p;)

a few more:
2006 INA Open MS winner
2007 Badminton Asia Championships (used to be Asian Badminton Championships) MS Winner
2007 SEA Games MS winner

..looks like his titles have become less and less meaningful; all the way from 2004 OG Gold to the local 2007 INA National Championships..;)

[cooler]

..(shame on you guys from Indonesia, who should know more about TNT's record)..;):p;)

a few more:
2006 INA Open MS winner
2007 Badminton Asia Championships (used to be Asian Badminton Championships) MS Winner
2007 SEA Games MS winner

..looks like his titles have become less and less meaningful; all the way from 2004 OG Gold to the local 2007 INA National Championships..;)
ya, even cooler knows that TH had won lots of INA Opens:D

[huangkwokhau]

ya, even cooler knows that TH had won lots of INA Opens:D
No wonder if BC/Kwun calls you " Mr. knows everything"...:D

[Krisna]

Hey, TH is not done yet... he might win the 2008 Japan Open and 2008 China Open, you know... :D

[limsy]

Hey, TH is not done yet... he might win the 2008 Japan Open and 2008 China Open, you know... :D

agree...th will beat lcw...and say:see...i beat silver medalist...so...i am gold medalist...:p...

[cooler]

TH, u disappointed me, i thot u had enough to beat J. Perrson.

[huangkwokhau]

TH, u disappointed me, i thot u had enough to beat J. Perrson.
YEP..he and Gade had few match points to close it but both of them could not do it...anyway..it is good to see Gong and Joachim emerge of being good challengers and good future for Badminton....

[mikeyapkf]

Taufik is a legend. He was the olympic champion. Lets not take away his credits. He is one of the player we should remember in the class like Zhao JianHua, Yang Yang, Rudy, Prakash, Sun Jun, Dong Jiong, Paul Erik Hoyer Larsen, Han Jian, Misbun Sidek, Icuk, Heryanto Arbi, LS King, and a lot more. He is now happily married, successful, and not at his peak. So he lose some matches. He is not young and prime anymore. But we should still respect him as a player of excellence. Now and forever...just like Nicol David , Bruce Lee, Mohammad Ali, Jet Li, Jacky Chan...the legends continues....

[ye333]

As far as Super Series is concerned, TH's attending is not in conflict with Simon's though.

Furthermore, if Simon cannot even out-do the current TH, there really is no reason why TH should "step down"... Simon needs to be a little bit better.


Also TH has been lazy in training as well.......anyway...he has a good life and his motivation is different than before.......people argued that his loss due to his illness but eventhough he was healthy...I did not see he could be a medal contender either......TH kept saying that he wished someone could take his spot but he would not give that spot to Simon as well......I think it is time for him to step down......

[ye333]

Your record is not precise. If we count everything including team events, it should be 5:9.

TH beat LD in

2002 AG (team 2:0), 2004 Indonesia MSSF 2:1, 2005 Singapore MSSF 2:0, 2005 WC MSF 2:0, 2006 AG MSF 2:0.

TH lost to LD in

2001 ABC 0:2, 2005 Sudirman 0:2, 2006 Thomas Cup 0:2, 2006 Japan MSF 1:2, 2006 AG Team (group and SF. both 1:2), 2007 Malaysia (Round 1 0:2), 2007 French (QF 0:2), 2007 HKO (QF 0:2).

Also it's nonsense counting how many points TH won through backhand smash. Backhand smash is part of his game, it keeps pressure on his opponent in situations most other players would have to give up attacking.


hmm, not what i've seen, not with lin dan.

2006 Japan open, TH backhand smashed once, but LD returned all the rest of them.

2007 french Open, TH got applaused for his backhand smash on LD, but LD won the match no problem.

lets clear the record, TH beaten LD only at:
05 WC, 06 asian game single event,

LD won all the rest of head to head against TH: 05 sudirman, 06 asian game team, 06 JO, 06 HKO, 07 French open,

In 08, TH even lost to uncle WCH.

[ye333]

Check 05 WC final again. TH's backhand smash at least won him one point from LD.


No, i was IN TOPIC.
LD never lost a match against TH when TH was using his super duper backhand smash. Sure TH have beaten other noobs with backhand smashes, but i dont think it was all due to his backhand smashes, but of course TH fans thinks so because it looks so cool. May i emphasize the word 'look'

[jutawin]

Taufik era has end..

[romizone]

Taufik era has end..

Sony Dwi Kuncoro Era are Starting ....

[george@chongwei]

Sony Dwi Kuncoro Era are Starting ....
u should say SImon santoso era are strarting or BONA/AHSAN era are starting too:);)

[dini_chantik]

taufik always lost after media entertainment make bad news about his children from another women beside his wife, and because india in world championship 2007, taufik look very shock because he was lost, i think taufik must get back his confidence and get leave behind

[hansonlouphers]

uhmm.. that "child" issue is an old rumor. and it disappeared by itself.. hope Taufik.. can get his victory back. but he has to not underestimate the opponents

[alexandra88]

taufik always lost after media entertainment make bad news about his children from another women beside his wife, and because india in world championship 2007, taufik look very shock because he was lost, i think taufik must get back his confidence and get leave behind

I believe that the child is taufik son ;)

[hansonlouphers]

waaaat?? ah come on!! dun tall about the issue here..

[romizone]

Taufik is handsome like a DOn Juan ......
He is a real playboy ..........



I believe that the child is taufik son ;)

[hansonlouphers]

yeaa.. he's handsome.. that's why altought his performance drop down.. the world still want him,, :p

[ctjcad]

..probably still call him that even when he's already in his 50s, 60s or even 70s..;)

[hansonlouphers]

hahaha.. yeaaa.. best wishes for him in Macau then..

[alexandra88]

waaaat?? ah come on!! dun tall about the issue here..

it's fact :D
look at him (Excell)
http://202.6.233.52/g/taufik_hidayat_vs_fanny/fani_nangis-20060624-001-wawan.jpg

they look similiar for each other :D
his mother's more pretty than amy gumelar :cool:

karma for taufik
rejected his son
after that..... lost...lost...lost and lost in all tournament :D

I hope Excell will be the next indonesian badminton player :D
mengikuti jejak ayahnya;)

[baihaki_as]

hehehe he just win the macau....
i think the era not over yet
he's get motivated by sony...
besides there's still one title... that he want to win

[limsy]

congrates to TH...great performance...

[Dy_e4ia_TUC]

really great performance,, try to prove that his era is not over yet,,, beating no.1 WR.. he showed us that he still have IT...

[alexandra88]

congratz taufik...... you won :eek:
I will not forget him :D

[Dato A]

Bashing TH's tactic is useful.

[robin7]

:eek:
it's fact :D
look at him (Excell)
http://202.6.233.52/g/taufik_hidayat_vs_fanny/fani_nangis-20060624-001-wawan.jpg

they look similiar for each other :D
his mother's more pretty than amy gumelar :cool:

karma for taufik
rejected his son
after that..... lost...lost...lost and lost in all tournament :D

I hope Excell will be the next indonesian badminton player :D
mengikuti jejak ayahnya;)
OMG, the kid really looks like Taufik especially his eyes. :eek:

[FuWang]

everybody said like that.. that child also show his talent on badminton.. now that news no continue anymore.. don't know what the fact..

[v-may]

Taufik won macau open n beat chong wei.is it a sign that he is on d right track again?hopefully n we'll c..

[ctjcad]

hehehe he just win the macau....
...

really great performance,, try to prove that his era is not over yet,,, beating no.1 WR.. he showed us that he still have IT...

congratz taufik...... you won :eek:
...

Taufik won macau open n beat chong wei.is it a sign that he is on d right track again?hopefully n we'll c..
:eek:..can you guys repeat what you guys've written??..:p

[hiltonmoreira9]

taufik had the glory of hari raya!
barokah from God..

[baihaki_as]

:eek:..can you guys repeat what you guys've written??..:p


TAUFIK WON!!!

:D:D:D

[Loh]

CONGRATS to Taufik.
High time he tells others not to discount him, not even the World No.1! :D

[Wong8Egg]

CONGRATS to Taufik.
High time he tells others not to discount him, not even the World No.1! :D

But world No.2?! :rolleyes:

[etudiant]

But world No.2?! :rolleyes:

Taufik's won just came in a right time to prove to top plyrs that he's still a contender....

[cooler]

CONGRATS to Taufik.
High time he tells others not to discount him, not even the World No.1! :D
but world #2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 weren't there tho:p

[Loh]

But world No.2?! :rolleyes:

Actually I don't think TH has ever been a World No.1 before, but I may be wrong.;) World Champ, yes... Olympic Champ, yes.

However, in the past whoever faced him knew that he was a hard nut to crack. Perhaps just like what so many players now think of LD.

So TH may now be given a second chance to be the terror in the court, skill wise that is! No matter whether his opponent is No.1, 2, 3, 4 and what have you. :eek:

Indra and Taufik-ist will show their face again ... hopefully sooner than later.:D

[Linus]

Can anyone confirm when was the last time TH won a SS series?

Indonesia Open in Jun/2006?

[ctjcad]

Actually I don't think TH has ever been a World No.1 before, but I may be wrong.;) World Champ, yes... Olympic Champ, yes.
...
..Loh is baiting all the Taufik's fans, eh??...;)
Actually he has been a world no.1 before. If not mistaken, he achieved that feat even before he reached 20 yrs. old.:cool:

Can anyone confirm when was the last time TH won a SS series?

Indonesia Open in Jun/2006?
..unfortunately, he hasn't won any Super Series titles, yet (Super Series was started in December 2006). The closest he has gotten to a SS title was last yr, as a Runner-Up, during the Japan Open SS.
But as far as a regular Open win is concerned, upon checking, that's correct, in June 2006 during the Indonesian Open, just at the start of the new scoring system. Wow, that's how bad and long of a draught it's been, i even forgot and had to check again.:p:p
He did win the SEA Games MS title last yr. After his AG's win over LinDan in late 2006.

[v-may]

Actually I don't think TH has ever been a World No.1 before, but I may be wrong.;) World Champ, yes... Olympic Champ, yes.

However, in the past whoever faced him knew that he was a hard nut to crack. Perhaps just like what so many players now think of LD.

So TH may now be given a second chance to be the terror in the court, skill wise that is! No matter whether his opponent is No.1, 2, 3, 4 and what have you. :eek:

Indra and Taufik-ist will show their face again ... hopefully sooner than later.:D

Actually he was world no 1 in august 2000, so he was also the top seed of olympic 2000, but unfortunately he lost in quarter final from ji xinpeng.... well, d same thing also happened to lindan, as the top seed in olympic athens, he lost in first round from ronald.... perhaps top seed feel a huge burden when they play in olympic

[baihaki_as]

i think taufik problem isn't about the stamina and being motivated....
but preferly to the score system
it'sn't suitable with his style..
he has regain his motivation since last year and his doing pratice well (according my friend he's get motivated by his FIL hehehe)
hope with this winning he can breakthrough the wall

[Heong]

i think taufik problem isn't about the stamina and being motivated....
but preferly to the score system
it'sn't suitable with his style..
he has regain his motivation since last year and his doing pratice well (according my friend he's get motivated by his FIL hehehe)
hope with this winning he can breakthrough the wall
About him and the scoring system..
During doha 2006 final, gill clark said that Taufik's stamina is not as good as Lin Dan so he needs to play a few good rallies and then save his energy in the next few rallies & then get back into the game again..
If this is the case, the old scoring system will benefit him more as he is able to calm down in a few rallies when it is his serve without losing any points.

[badadum]

About him and the scoring system..
During doha 2006 final, gill clark said that Taufik's stamina is not as good as Lin Dan so he needs to play a few good rallies and then save his energy in the next few rallies & then get back into the game again..
If this is the case, the old scoring system will benefit him more as he is able to calm down in a few rallies when it is his serve without losing any points.

heh, that reminds me of Zhao Jianhua...deadly for a few points...then relax for a few more points....Awesome player!

Don't think old scoring system will help Taufik though, his stamina is so wretched during TC and OG....it wont matter much. Only solution is to train harder to improve it.

[AlexMak]

He is not as strong as before. Perhaps he doesn't practice too much.

[pawpawsalad]

haha by reading the posts i think cooler is a chinese :P. can someone please confirm?

[romizone]

haha by reading the posts i think cooler is a chinese :P. can someone please confirm?

Not Chineese but Tionghoa :D:D:D

[badadum]

Not Chineese but Tionghoa :D:D:D

Only Indonesian (and maybe Singaporean/Malaysian) will know what that means ;). IIRC, cooler is Chinese-Canadian (or is it Canadian-Chinese??)

[ctjcad]

i think taufik problem isn't about the stamina and being motivated....
but preferly to the score system
it'sn't suitable with his style..
he has regain his motivation since last year and his doing pratice well (according my friend he's get motivated by his FIL hehehe)
hope with this winning he can breakthrough the wall

About him and the scoring system..
During doha 2006 final, gill clark said that Taufik's stamina is not as good as Lin Dan so he needs to play a few good rallies and then save his energy in the next few rallies & then get back into the game again..
If this is the case, the old scoring system will benefit him more as he is able to calm down in a few rallies when it is his serve without losing any points.
..if one is to follow Taufik's career, one will notice that most of his victories (major ones) have come through 2 sets, esp. against the top ranked players. Although, yes, there are a few victories which have come through 3 sets against the top ranked players.
And one of his recent glaring & embarrassing defeats came with him basically "giving up" during the 2006 Japan Open's MS Final.:p
Scoring system-wise, imo, he's had roughly the same amt of succes with both.

So, yes, his fitness/stamina/conditioning level, or lack of, is his achilles heel (motivation, or lack of it, could be a part of it). And more significant esp. after his 2004 OG & 2005 WC.

[Athelete1234]

That 3 set thomas cup 2004 SF match against KJ was one hell of a game though...

[huangkwokhau]

Lets see how TH is performing at French Open...TH will not participate at DEN Open and HK Open.
It is not enough time to process his visa...

[ctjcad]

That 3 set thomas cup 2004 SF match against KJ was one hell of a game though...
..those good ol' days...;)

[huangkwokhau]

Lets see how TH is performing at French Open...TH will not participate at DEN Open and HK Open.
It is not enough time to process his visa...
Oops...correction, TH will be competing at French and HK Open only..

[littlehuman]

Well, I heard lots of reasons.some said he lost passion, some said he got dengue, some said he smoke, some said he too complacent and some said he wanted to concentrate on family life.
But,
i think the most Important is he is a talented player who had title [World No. 1 talented player]
He really made competitions interesting and wonderful with some of his amazing shots such as retrieving smashes under the leg, his backhand smashes and loads.
Afterall, it already feels good to be the world champion once. =)
He is my Idol. He rocks!
I hoped he can participate in next Olympics again in a good condition.:o

[chongkiatz]

yeah...taufik make competition more nice.....u can see some beautiful shot or even defending smash as wat littlehuman state out under leg =D......wonder when i can have taufik's backhand skills =D...it's awesome !!

[baihaki_as]

but the importance is alot of girl come when taufik plays

[synd3r]

yeah...taufik make competition more nice.....u can see some beautiful shot or even defending smash as wat littlehuman state out under leg =D......wonder when i can have taufik's backhand skills =D...it's awesome !!

he ever said if he wanted then he got it. his skill never die.
once he reach the final, then he must get the title with whole of effort.
lets see next tourney if he can reach the final again.:rolleyes:

[cooler]

......wonder when i can have taufik's backhand skills =D...it's awesome !!tonight, when you go to sleep:p

[baihaki_as]

i heard news from my friend
that taufik FIL very anggry with taufik recent perfomance
especially with his loses so easily in olympic

[robin7]

IIRC, cooler is Chinese-Canadian (or is it Canadian-Chinese??)
He seems more like a chinese who has migrated to Canada. I could be wrong.

[matthewteng]

He's not getting worse, just inconsistent. Can turn it on and beat the best when he plays well, but often is out early. Saw his match against Lin Dan at Asian Games 2006 final - was sublime.
Also, he's getting older.

[etudiant]

whatever his condition...bad or good...he's still one of the badminton legend...and of course will ever be my fav player.....its gonna be long time to find another plyr like him (note: in his max performance) esp in ina.......

[etudiant]

whatever his condition...bad or good...he's still one of the badminton legend...and surely will ever be my fav plyr...its gonna be long time to find another plyr like him (note: in his good performance) esp in Ina......

[rhasan]

Hey, Taufik Hidayat did well in the Macau Open, but how do you think he'll do in the Denmark Open. I think he'll lose to Bao Chun Lai because I think he doesn't want to face Lee Chong Wei and cause another upsetting upset for Lee Chong Wei because they're good friends.

[badMania]

He's not even going to be in Denmark.

[limsy]

Hey, Taufik Hidayat did well in the Macau Open, but how do you think he'll do in the Denmark Open. I think he'll lose to Bao Chun Lai because I think he doesn't want to face Lee Chong Wei and cause another upsetting upset for Lee Chong Wei because they're good friends.

wah....now just i know...th so kind until he withdraw from DO...:p

[Smichz]

Hey, Taufik Hidayat did well in the Macau Open, but how do you think he'll do in the Denmark Open. I think he'll lose to Bao Chun Lai because I think he doesn't want to face Lee Chong Wei and cause another upsetting upset for Lee Chong Wei because they're good friends.

Even if they're good friends,i don't think TH will actually consider that as a thought for withdrawing the DO.As friends,i think they will also compete as a rival on the court,and be friends off the court..N IMO,Taufik isn't afraid to lose by whoever great players he's playing with.He's only afraid of playing with the unseeded players..since he'll most of the time only playing "yoyo".:D

[bic33]

I actually love playing serious matches with friends... Losing a match with a friend whom you know is good isn't embarrassing at all (in the case of TH vs LCW). From their previous match, I think taufik can play all-out when he plays chong wei

[Nate_12]

Hes getting older.
Didnt he come out of retirement??

[etudiant]

older player still has a chance to shines (he's not even in his 30's)....no news or signs regarding TH's retirement yet.....

[baihaki_as]

Hey, Taufik Hidayat did well in the Macau Open, but how do you think he'll do in the Denmark Open. I think he'll lose to Bao Chun Lai because I think he doesn't want to face Lee Chong Wei and cause another upsetting upset for Lee Chong Wei because they're good friends.

definitly i agree with u....
taufik is soooo kinddd

[hansonlouphers]

Hes getting older.
Didnt he come out of retirement??

no info bout that yet..

[ctjcad]

..maybe Hau-ge can (sms some INA players??), but i read somewhere Taufik is going to come to Toronto, CAN, this coming Christmas holiday??:confused: Heard he'll be doing an exhibition with the Toronto badminton folks (around or on the 27th of December??).:confused: thanks.

[jutawin]

Taufik Hidayat is one of the athletes who relayed the torch in Asian Beach Games' opening ceremony in bali yesterday. Indonesia people still admit him as a top player. In indonesia If u ever get olympic gold medal, you will remain as a good player 4ever..

[hansonlouphers]

Taufik Hidayat is one of the athletes who relayed the torch in Asian Beach Games' opening ceremony in bali yesterday. Indonesia people still admit him as a top player. In indonesia If u ever get olympic gold medal, you will remain as a good player 4ever..

no more than agree,,, ;)

[hahahalol]

I thought he was going to retire after the Bejing onlympic, but he's still in tournaments now. Can someone explain this to me??

[hansonlouphers]

just put it as delayed. lol

he wont retire soon..

[Dato A]

I thought he was going to retire after the Bejing onlympic, but he's still in tournaments now. Can someone explain this to me??

u want him to retire?write a letter to him:D:D

[hahahalol]

u want him to retire?write a letter to him:D:D


lol nono that's not what i meant :P

[fareast]

I thought he was going to retire after the Bejing onlympic, but he's still in tournaments now. Can someone explain this to me??

Not really,

AFAIK at some interview Taufik state that Beijing 08 will be his last olympic, bust I think he still want to play for 1 or 2 more year, perhaps chasing All England title, the only major title he havent achieve :cool:

[hahahalol]

Not really,

AFAIK at some interview Taufik state that Beijing 08 will be his last olympic, bust I think he still want to play for 1 or 2 more year, perhaps chasing All England title, the only major title he havent achieve :cool:

oh ic best of luck to him then =)

[at900_power]

Taufik is forever my idol.. Think noboday in the circuit has such an array of shots and deception as he does. aniwae he just got into the semis of french open.. playing lee chong wei.. haha hope he wins again..

[huangkwokhau]

..maybe Hau-ge can (sms some INA players??), but i read somewhere Taufik is going to come to Toronto, CAN, this coming Christmas holiday??:confused: Heard he'll be doing an exhibition with the Toronto badminton folks (around or on the 27th of December??).:confused: thanks.
Yes... he will do exhibition in Toronto in December.. he does not know who he will be playing.

Also he told me that In Februqry in Denmark? the organizer is trying to get LD,LCW,TH and Gade for BIG FOUR.....
Also he will be in Phillipine as well

[ctjcad]

..and thanks for confirming those infos...
*See you/talk soon in L.A. in a couple of days..:)

[fanatico]

taufik just defeat chong wei. he is not getting worse -.-

[sari_nov]

GO TAUFIK..!!

Grabe you're 1st super series title..

[sjeemsje]

I just returned from Paris French Open and had the privilige of having a press card. Taufik told after the match yesterday that he expects to play for 2 or 3 more years and is highly motivated again to play his best in the time he has left. He was happy to have his family with him in Paris and the highly enthusiastic french crowds chanting " TAUFIK, TAUFIK!" during his matches. He looks hungry again and let's hope we will see some more magic from the Wizard.

[RSLdude]

taufik hidayat is what professional badminton is all about . . .

[phaarix]

I just returned from Paris French Open and had the privilige of having a press card. Taufik told after the match yesterday that he expects to play for 2 or 3 more years and is highly motivated again to play his best in the time he has left. He was happy to have his family with him in Paris and the highly enthusiastic french crowds chanting " TAUFIK, TAUFIK!" during his matches. He looks hungry again and let's hope we will see some more magic from the Wizard.

Thanks for the info :), it sounds very promising! Hope he can keep up his new motivation!

[ctjcad]

I just returned from Paris French Open and had the privilige of having a press card. Taufik told after the match yesterday that he expects to play for 2 or 3 more years and is highly motivated again to play his best in the time he has left. He was happy to have his family with him in Paris and the highly enthusiastic french crowds chanting " TAUFIK, TAUFIK!" during his matches. He looks hungry again and let's hope we will see some more magic from the Wizard.
..and thanks for sharing a bit of side infos! As for him "expecting to play for 2 or 3 more years and is highly motivated again to play his best in the time he has left", well, just gotta cross our fingers he'll follow through on that promise..;)

[sjeemsje]

I said taufik expected to play 2 or 3 more years, it was 1 or 2 more years. It was Peter Gade who said 2 or 3 more years, sorry about the mix-up.
Anyway, I urge anyone who has an opportunity to go and see both taufik and gade live in action if you have the chance before they will leave the game. They look to be in top form and it shows since they will play eachother tomorrow in the french open final.

[aZn_Popcorn]

Taufik will most likely be playing against Hariawan Hariawan for the exhibition game in Toronto Canada.

[diana_19]

taufik used to play with briliant, when badminton still used system 15 point, i think he always lost point at first, this system was more easy to taufik.

[smashingmark]

I said taufik expected to play 2 or 3 more years, it was 1 or 2 more years. It was Peter Gade who said 2 or 3 more years, sorry about the mix-up.
Anyway, I urge anyone who has an opportunity to go and see both taufik and gade live in action if you have the chance before they will leave the game. They look to be in top form and it shows since they will play eachother tomorrow in the french open final.

That's always great to hear that Taufik will play 1 or 2 years more.. I think he can last till he is 30 if he's motivated. I think if he keeps his love for the sport, he'll continue to play so that his children can see him play and win..
If the Danish players can play till 30+ I think asian players should try to follow if their bodies allow them to play...

Ciao da mao
smashingmark

[phaarix]

I said taufik expected to play 2 or 3 more years, it was 1 or 2 more years. It was Peter Gade who said 2 or 3 more years, sorry about the mix-up.
Anyway, I urge anyone who has an opportunity to go and see both taufik and gade live in action if you have the chance before they will leave the game. They look to be in top form and it shows since they will play eachother tomorrow in the french open final.

Either way is good :D! And that's also good to hear about PG! As I was wondering about him after hearing about Kenneth.

[pjswift]

My guess is TH will continue to play as long as he continues to win once in a while.....

[sjeemsje]

Gillian Clark just said during live commentary in the final that taufik said to her that one of the reasons he is playing so well again is because does not feel the pressure of olympic title holder anymore. He has refound the freedom to play again.......my does it show, poor gade...

[ctjcad]

I said taufik expected to play 2 or 3 more years, it was 1 or 2 more years. It was Peter Gade who said 2 or 3 more years, sorry about the mix-up.
...

Gillian Clark just said during live commentary in the final that taufik said to her that one of the reasons he is playing so well again is because does not feel the pressure of olympic title holder anymore. He has refound the freedom to play again.......my does it show, poor gade...
..with all the major titles, with the exception of the All England. I would guess he will try to accomplish the feat of finally winning the elusive AE title in the next 1-2 yrs.

[nick.h]

Well done taufik!for reaching his first SS final...ever...:D
he's getting there in time...he'll be feared once again soon...i think he's improved mentally and physically..although i do think that his movements around the court is a little slower than usual (no surprise, age factor) he takes more backhand shots rather than over head shots...physically stronger too i think...so overall i think he's climbing the chart again...i'd say AE '09 and world champ '09 would be his target next year...lets face it he hasnt won anything major since dec'06 asian games...

[v-may]

Well done taufik!for reaching his first SS final...ever...:D
he's getting there in time...he'll be feared once again soon...i think he's improved mentally and physically..although i do think that his movements around the court is a little slower than usual (no surprise, age factor) he takes more backhand shots rather than over head shots...physically stronger too i think...so overall i think he's climbing the chart again...i'd say AE '09 and world champ '09 would be his target next year...lets face it he hasnt won anything major since dec'06 asian games...

he lost to gade last night, but at least he played good, wish the best for him for the upcoming tournaments....

[Dato A]

taufik is back in business.

congrats.

[flymordecai]

Taufik hasn't played this well since 2005. Too bad he lost to Gade!

[Yong_Hui]

good enough for TH by reaching final after won Macao GP....

[george@chongwei]

TH is beginning to playing in his superb form again..
cheers!:)

[bramyes]

about news Taufik Hidayat, Is in training and agree on a contract offer in the management of PBSI. And news coach Mulyo Handoyo

[bh185008]

Hi Bramyes,

Following up on your previous post, did u actually say that Taufik has agreed with the PBSI contract and get Mulyo back as his coach in Pelatnas...please confirm.......

Hi Krisna and Hauge,

Can you please also confirm if this is the legitimate news?
thanks

[huangkwokhau]

Hi Bramyes,

Following up on your previous post, did u actually say that Taufik has agreed with the PBSI contract and get Mulyo back as his coach in Pelatnas...please confirm.......

Hi Krisna and Hauge,

Can you please also confirm if this is the legitimate news?
thanks
I cant confirm yet...........

[jutawin]

Taufik has officially resigned from PBSI. hope he will play better than before.