Woo, this must be sensitive issue :D since there are zillion YY fans out there:p. But still some say that YY racket is too over rated and actually there are other brand that are as good and even beyond the famous YY Brand with even cheaper prise!! If you agree with me lets just post your quote and tell us your choice of racket

i used to against ppl that buying yonex expensive racket...
but...after i bought yonex 900p ... it feels great ... hehehe

paying too much for the brand. that's the only thing i hate.

I see that master Dinkalot also not a fan of yonex:rolleyes:

I think Yonex make great racquets. But I also like to give other brands a try so in my collection, I have yonex, carlton, victor, fischer and hart. Recently sold the fischer and hart as they are flexy racquet and I need stiffer racquets now.

I think if one is not brand conscious, you can definitely pay less for an equivalent performance to Yonex.

Woo, this must be sensitive issue :D since there are zillion YY fans out there:p. But still some say that YY racket is too over rated and actually there are other brand that are as good and even beyond the famous YY Brand with even cheaper prise!! If you agree with me lets just post your quote and tell us your choice of racket
u r overblowing the matter. Not buying or using certain brand doesn't make one hate or against it. I don't drive a rolls royce nor do i wear D&G products, surely i'm not anti any of these products:rolleyes:

I surely used to be an anti yonex.But after i bought at900T,then the rest "18" yonex rackets,i feel that they're worthed for the price.At least,they have a high value as a collection,n will worth higher after a while.Unlike any other rackets,they're expensive,but they are not exactly a collectible items.

For example:Old ti-10.They used to worth about 100 usd in asian countries,but now,the price worth has gone much higher than that.

For me it would be hard to be "Anti-" any company focusing its business on the sport i love!!

The only thing I am "anti" about are the consumers that buy a racket "JUST" because the name and the fact that sponsored players are paid to use that brand..

I would like most consuers to more think in terms price/performance and suitability for their game and level. instead of just paying lots of money to the marketing staff..

I would like the consumers money to be more spent on the product development and research staff, not into the pockets of the marketing department!

/Twobeer

I surely used to be an anti yonex.But after i bought at900T,then the rest "18" yonex rackets,i feel that they're worthed for the price.At least,they have a high value as a collection,n will worth higher after a while.Unlike any other rackets,they're expensive,but they are not exactly a collectible items.

For example:Old ti-10.They used to worth about 100 usd in asian countries,but now,the price worth has gone much higher than that.

argree. one my my fren sold his first gen ti-10 for rm1300 where he bought for rm500

Ah Twobeer, if all of us were to be like you or me, Yonex would not be selling as many racquets or sponsoring so many tournaments and players. Sponsorship costs money but the extra business generated from such sponsorship brings in more than enough to pay for the costs of sponsoring. It also increases the value of the brand.
Anytime you build up a brand it is guaranteed to be of far from being a value-for-money product. That is why a brand is worth so much and yet so little to justify if "put to the knife" consumer test, except that it is good insurance policy that you will not be swindled..

I stop buying and using yonex racquet, but not reach a level "anti" coz I still using yonex's string :D

Dont hate someone or something too much, becoz who knows in the future, we will love it :D

I buy Yonex racquets because my coach was sponsored by Yonex and i was able to try loads of racquets to find out which one i liked. His shop also sold Carlton and Prince, but i just didn't like them compared to the Yonex racquets i tried.
I don't think people should be 'anti-yonex'. If you don't like the racquets thats one thing, but to avoid trying them just because of their brand name is a bit weird.
Just my opinion though.

If it's about choices, people who avoid a major brand (like Yonex in badminton rackets) loses as much choice as people who only uses that major brand. Yonex does make some pretty decent rackets as do many other brands.

Value of the racket, of course, depends on the buyer.

Woo, this must be sensitive issue :D since there are zillion YY fans out there:p. But still some say that YY racket is too over rated and actually there are other brand that are as good and even beyond the famous YY Brand with even cheaper prise!! If you agree with me lets just post your quote and tell us your choice of racket

My Yonex racket was Boron and Carbonex 8SP only.
Currently using : Yang Yang. ArrowPoint, ASTEC and SOTX .... More Wise

Yonex is good racket, but I never have the high-end series, maybe because the price .......

there is a good and not expensive racket, SOTX .... More Wise :)

Sometimes too dominant a position may stifle competition and creativity but in this case, though Yonex is dominant, competition is still quite healthy. In fact, I think Yonex does alot of good for badminton.

Let's imagine if Yonex gets out of badminton, is there any other brand that can step in to fill the void ? Who has the financial muscle to sponsor young players, professional players and competition ? Without those programmes in place, badminton will be much poorer for it.

I moved from Yonex to SOTX because yonex rackets were too expensive for me and SOTX performed the same at a much cheaper price.

I moved from Yonex to SOTX because yonex rackets were too expensive for me and SOTX performed the same at a much cheaper price.

i am tempted too also but the SOTX colours.... geees...

You shouldn't judge the performance of a racket solely on what technology it's based or how it affect you physically. There's also a spiritual effect.

You see, for most people in this forum, holding a Yonex racket and a SOTX or APAC racket HAS a difference. Even if it's absolutely the same racket with different name. Yonex is a high end brand and their reputation is a lot higher than any other company out there. Thus, player who holds it feels more comfortable and probably feels "better" and stronger than holding another brand. It makes people proud.

You shouldn't judge the performance of a racket solely on what technology it's based or how it affect you physically. There's also a spiritual effect.

You see, for most people in this forum, holding a Yonex racket and a SOTX or APAC racket HAS a difference. Even if it's absolutely the same racket with different name. Yonex is a high end brand and their reputation is a lot higher than any other company out there. Thus, player who holds it feels more comfortable and probably feels "better" and stronger than holding another brand. It makes people proud.

i agree.
there is a psychological effect of..."i have a good racket'
even if you can play just as well with any other racket, there is a feeling of "i have the best out there" that is associated with Yonex rackets.

i am tempted too also but the SOTX colours.... geees...

that's make SOTX different ........ they do not simply copy the colors, they have the quality ....... SOTX, More Wise

SOTX and RSL are brands that don't copy yonex rackets and make their own range of rackets.

If somebody says they don't use yonex does that make him/her an anti yonex person?

If I don't use SOTX does that mean I'm anti Yonex?

A lot of people here don't hate yonex, they just prefer other racquets, and find them better for the price. It's not as if anybody here hates Yonex like some people hate LYB and stuff.

SOTX and RSL are brands that don't copy yonex rackets and make their own range of rackets.


plus fischer, babolat :D

If somebody says they don't use yonex does that make him/her an anti yonex person?

If I don't use SOTX does that mean I'm anti Yonex?

A lot of people here don't hate yonex, they just prefer other racquets, and find them better for the price. It's not as if anybody here hates Yonex like some people hate LYB and stuff.

Some people don't use yonex because they cannot afford the prices of their rackets.

There are so many brands out there that doesn't copy yonex racquets. Alot of them are specialist in other sports and use their knowledge and apply it to badminton.

So far, I have tried Ashaway, Carlton, Victor, Fischer, Hart, Dunlop and Yonex. Fischer racquets are very good, but mainly suitable for someone who needs flexy racquet. Victor on the other hand has probably one of the widest range of racquets for different requirements and if you are looking for a top quality racquet other than Yonex, consider Victor.

Some people don't use yonex because they cannot afford the prices of their rackets.


except for me, i've bought 3 expensive yonex racquet, and end up using other brand :D

except for me, i've bought 3 expensive yonex racquet, and end up using other brand :D

Which brand are you using now?

There are so many brands out there that doesn't copy yonex racquets. Alot of them are specialist in other sports and use their knowledge and apply it to badminton.

So far, I have tried Ashaway, Carlton, Victor, Fischer, Hart, Dunlop and Yonex. Fischer racquets are very good, but mainly suitable for someone who needs flexy racquet. Victor on the other hand has probably one of the widest range of racquets for different requirements and if you are looking for a top quality racquet other than Yonex, consider Victor.

Ashaway seems always copy the color of Yonex racket .........

Which brand are you using now?


fischer,

magnetic pro83 and tour83

Ashaway seems always copy the color of Yonex racket .........

You have not seen APACS yet right ? :)

You have not seen APACS yet right ? :)

please read the sentence I quoted first boss .........
do not anyhow make comment without knowing the previous sentence .....
thanks in advance

fischer,

magnetic pro83 and tour83

Cool ! Another Fischer user ! I was using the Pro no.1 83 but just sold it as I need a stiffer racquet. Very well made and feels good.

Cool ! Another Fischer user ! I was using the Pro no.1 83 but just sold it as I need a stiffer racquet. Very well made and feels good.


so, now what racquet are u using after u sold your magneticpro83??

so, now what racquet are u using after u sold your magneticpro83??

I have quite a few racquets :)

I usually use the Carlton Nanolite 9500, very versatile racquet, good for doubles. I also use the Victor SW33P if more brute force is required. Sometimes I will also use my Arc Saber 10.

yonex is too costly...can't be say "anti-yonex"...just can say "anti-price"...all the high end racket is around RM300~RM700... it might be too over for me if i just a normal player unless i'm international player =D ...ProAce will be my choice..but currently using wilson nCode 9000 racket with head heavy while ProAce racket was too light for me...and this my 1st time using Wilson racket because of the frame colour was cool (black and white) ...anybody tried this racket?

I see that master Dinkalot also not a fan of yonex:rolleyes:

Hey, watch yourself, don't jump to conclusions nor put words in my mouth.

For badminton, overall, Yonex still makes the best equipement.

Yonex equipment performs great, it just doesn't last for me. But then again, neither do the other manufacturers. :p

Yes, i do agree with dinkalot, if yonex doesnt make good badminton equipment, who does?:D:D
IMO, people are anti yonex because they are brainwashed by shopowners etc. Because they usually try to sell out other brands which gives them more profit. No offense. The normal line would be "buy xxxbrand, it performs just as well as yonex, but its half the price." :D:D

Hey, watch yourself, don't jump to conclusions nor put words in my mouth.

For badminton, overall, Yonex still makes the best equipement.

Yonex equipment performs great, it just doesn't last for me. But then again, neither do the other manufacturers. :p

I see, now I know your perception of Yonex brand. Hmm miss judge. Sorry;)

except for me, i've bought 3 expensive yonex racquet, and end up using other brand :D

Maybe that's because u can't fully use them,or u are afraid of using it during doubles.:confused::confused:..

I play double mainly.My first yonex rackets is my AT900T.My gf bought it for me as a birthday gift.I am afraid of using it,so i kept playing with apacs,kason,etc..whatever that costs cheaper than it.But now i have alot of yonex rackets already,n i'm no longer afraid of using yonex rackets to play doubles anymore.But,of course,i would have to see who am i playing with or who i am playing against.:p

Maybe that's because u can't fully use them,or u are afraid of using it during doubles.:confused::confused:..

I play double mainly.My first yonex rackets is my AT900T.My gf bought it for me as a birthday gift.I am afraid of using it,so i kept playing with apacs,kason,etc..whatever that costs cheaper than it.But now i have alot of yonex rackets already,n i'm no longer afraid of using yonex rackets to play doubles anymore.But,of course,i would have to see who am i playing with or who i am playing against.:p


no, not because I afraid to use it to play double or maybe triple :D

It just I not really statisfy with it, and nobody has influence me (like sgbad post, that might be they are brainwashed by shopowner, exactly not for me)

It just my opinion. For now, I dont like yonex racquet, but who knows in the future, I will use it again

Yes, i do agree with dinkalot, if yonex doesnt make good badminton equipment, who does?:D:D
IMO, people are anti yonex because they are brainwashed by shopowners etc. Because they usually try to sell out other brands which gives them more profit. No offense. The normal line would be "buy xxxbrand, it performs just as well as yonex, but its half the price." :D:D

Agree.One more thing,when ppl see apacs,or any other cloner brands,that produced the cloned yonex racket that costs one third the price of the same looking yonex rackets,they couldn't resist it.So,normally,the price would be the major concern for ppl to go anti yonex.

For me,I used to go anti yonex because i've seen alot of NS9000 broken during the game.Considering that it's still one of the most expensive rackets in the badminton industry,and the fact that For the very high price u've paid,in return,u get a very fragile racket.So,I think the price is not a major concern if u are seeking for one of the best performing rackets in badminton world.But we can't change the fact that the lighter a racket,the lesser its material density,the easier for it to break.Not until the badminton industry found one material that's light yet unbreakable.:D

Hey, watch yourself, don't jump to conclusions nor put words in my mouth.

For badminton, overall, Yonex still makes the best equipement.

Yonex equipment performs great, it just doesn't last for me. But then again, neither do the other manufacturers. :p

I see, now I know your perception of Yonex brand. Hmm miss judge. Sorry;)

except for me, i've bought 3 expensive yonex racquet, and end up using other brand :D

What's the point of that? Unless you are a racket collector, that's different :D

What's the point of that? Unless you are a racket collector, that's different :D


that;s the anwer for the post before that; Have you read it???

that;s the anwer for the post before that; Have you read it???

Nope, I read too fast lol!

Now that I did. There is nothing afraid off unless you're playing with people who don't know how to play properly. In that case, use a flunky racket when playing with these individuals.

I don't mind about other brand name rackets. I had a prince but don't use it anymore (it's cracked at the T-Joint), but that was about 9 years ago!

Agree.One more thing,when ppl see apacs,or any other cloner brands,that produced the cloned yonex racket that costs one third the price of the same looking yonex rackets,they couldn't resist it.So,normally,the price would be the major concern for ppl to go anti yonex.

For me,I used to go anti yonex because i've seen alot of NS9000 broken during the game.Considering that it's still one of the most expensive rackets in the badminton industry,and the fact that For the very high price u've paid,in return,u get a very fragile racket.So,I think the price is not a major concern if u are seeking for one of the best performing rackets in badminton world.But we can't change the fact that the lighter a racket,the lesser its material density,the easier for it to break.Not until the badminton industry found one material that's light yet unbreakable.:D

I read that Karakal has made the lightest racket which is about 70gm using magnesium as an additive. Same material used in hi-end car sport rims, and it still can be strung up till 30lbs.

SOTX made a racket can be strung up to 31lbs and with the force pro technology it can absorb vibration of the hi-tension string.

From what I know yonex mostly maximum tension is up to 27lbs.

I read that Karakal has made the lightest racket which is about 70gm using magnesium as an additive. Same material used in hi-end car sport rims, and it still can be strung up till 30lbs.

SOTX made a racket can be strung up to 31lbs and with the force pro technology it can absorb vibration of the hi-tension string.

From what I know yonex mostly maximum tension is up to 27lbs. r u a stringer? sounds like u get your info from reading brochures.

I read that Karakal has made the lightest racket which is about 70gm using magnesium as an additive. Same material used in hi-end car sport rims, and it still can be strung up till 30lbs.

SOTX made a racket can be strung up to 31lbs and with the force pro technology it can absorb vibration of the hi-tension string.

From what I know yonex mostly maximum tension is up to 27lbs.

What about the pro players?Most of them played higher than 30lbs.Most single players would play around 30-32.Some doubles like the danish,played at 36lbs.As we know,yonex is the biggest sponsor in major tournaments,n most of the international players use yonex rackets.Yonex is well known as a brand that's too limiting its string tension.25lbs is the highest as far as i concern.But i have strung my mp100 3u which is only stated 18-22lbs at 29lbs n nothing went wrong.I also have a 3u ns8000 that is strung at 30lbs,n nothing went wrong as well.So does most of the pro players.They hold rackets that has a stated stringing tension limit of less than 27lbs,but they still strung it much higher than that,n they still play well.That's just some policy made by yonex to minimize their risk,n it doesn't mean they can't hold high tension.

Woo, this must be sensitive issue :D since there are zillion YY fans out there:p. But still some say that YY racket is too over rated and actually there are other brand that are as good and even beyond the famous YY Brand with even cheaper prise!! If you agree with me lets just post your quote and tell us your choice of racket

If that's the way, no one should buy BMW, Benz, Lexus, etc. Kia or Hyundi can bring you to most of the places, without any issue as well, well the price is only 1/2 or 1/3. Then, why should ppl buy LV or coach, as other "street brand" holds as much stuff, equally durable, and the price is like 1/100? :rolleyes:

Whether it's worth it or not, it's down to the individual. Racket is used for it's performance. It you did enough homework, and find out a Yonex racket is the best suitable for your need, and you can afford the extra $$$, that's nothing is wrong. If you only go with the name blindly, and find out you overpaying something not designed for you to begin with, you should only blame yourself, instead of the produce itself.

For ppl know what they are doing, explore the market, and if you can find a gem with a price tag of a rock, great! If you have no idea how different a rock and a gem looks like, the SAFE choice is to go with the well known brand, as their overall product + service is definitely above the average. ;)

I read that Karakal has made the lightest racket which is about 70gm using magnesium as an additive. Same material used in hi-end car sport rims, and it still can be strung up till 30lbs.

SOTX made a racket can be strung up to 31lbs and with the force pro technology it can absorb vibration of the hi-tension string.

From what I know yonex mostly maximum tension is up to 27lbs.


If you don't care about the warranty, no one can stop you to string your own yonex racket to be more than 30lbs. Yonex recommended tension is from warranty concern (at least US and CAN Yonex are very generous, and they replaced tons of rackets which are clearly player / stringer's fault).

There are quite a few local players I string racket for, and all of them asking for 26-28 or even 30 range. I warn them about the warranty concern, but they say they don't care. Therefore, I go ahead with my job, and they love the performance of the newly strung racket. So far, none of them is broken during string process (which contains the most un-evenly distributed force), and most of them standing very well after years of services. ;)

oo come on guys, I just want us to think out side the box. Yonex is a popular brand. Event for those who arent into badmiton stuff also know yonex. Yonex has been sponsor all top rated atheletes in badminton world and the first thing will came out from our mind when choosing racket is off course yonex. Holding the same racket as Lin Dan and Taufik in the tournament already make us feel like a champ. Just perhaps there is some thing some brand we might over look at...

Im not saying that yonex is not good. Just to wider our range of choise:p

oo come on guys, I just want us to think out side the box. Yonex is a popular brand. Event for those who arent into badmiton stuff also know yonex. Yonex has been sponsor all top rated atheletes in badminton world and the first thing will came out from our mind when choosing racket is off course yonex. Holding the same racket as Lin Dan and Taufik in the tournament already make us feel like a champ. Just perhaps there is some thing some brand we might over look at...

Im not saying that yonex is not good. Just to wider our range of choise:p

Like I mentioned, if you know the stuff, surely you can think outside the box. However, if you are inexperienced, Yonex is a safe choice to begin with. Many other lesser known brands have a few gems here and there, but at the same time, the chance to end with a crap is much higher as well. :cool:

Yonex all the day! The way the game is meant to be played :D

Just a few Yonex models of Yonex in my inventory now. RSL, Victor and APACS are all good . . . :) Looking forward to Gamma to come out with their lines.

oo come on guys, I just want us to think out side the box. Yonex is a popular brand. Event for those who arent into badmiton stuff also know yonex. Yonex has been sponsor all top rated atheletes in badminton world and the first thing will came out from our mind when choosing racket is off course yonex. Holding the same racket as Lin Dan and Taufik in the tournament already make us feel like a champ. Just perhaps there is some thing some brand we might over look at...

Im not saying that yonex is not good. Just to wider our range of choise:p

We're just correcting ur misunderstanding about yonex rackets cannot withstand high tensions.I would agree that there are alot of good rackets of other brands out there..but again,it's a personal preference.

Holding an old at700 cp or at900t ip doesn't make us feel like a champ,but playing like them regardless what racket we're using..will make us proud.That would also earn us a sponsorship from big brands,thus will earn us alot of money.:)..then,our bonus would be the continuous supply of rackets from them,just like professional players we all know.

Some people don't use yonex because they cannot afford the prices of their rackets.
So they buy an even more expensive woven16?:confused::confused:
Not all yonex are majorly expensive, if you know where to look. And I know you know where to look.:p

So they buy an even more expensive woven16?:confused::confused:
Not all yonex are majorly expensive, if you know where to look. And I know you know where to look.:p

Well...For me....I dunno where to look in Vancouver or Richmond in BC....All those sport stores that sells badminton rackets are pretty expensive....:(

Phandrew would either recommend Wingeebadminton for their cheap prices, Shuttlehouse for good prices, member discount program, and JP version, and Mybadmintonstore for free shipping.

But anyways, the best price I can find a Diamond fighter 600 is like $130 without strings. My friend brought back an AT700 with strings for $130. Not all other brands are cheap.

Well...For me....I dunno where to look in Vancouver or Richmond in BC....All those sport stores that sells badminton rackets are pretty expensive....:(

Did you try Tad's?

Did you try Tad's?

Yea I did...Their price is cheaper, but still pretty expensive if you're looking for high-end Yonex racquets. Best bet would probably be Victor's....But the price....:(

This is not a fiction.
Totally based from my experience.
Last time i used to buy Yonex Racquets.Still remember one time bought Yonex MP 77 which cost me about RM3++.00
It is great to have such a highend racquet to play with.
But it didnt last me more than 3 months.(This really hurted me that moment !!! seriously no kidding)
From that moment onward I did not buy any more YY brand.
I changed to Pro Ace brand which is more long lasting !!!
And currently using Apacs Edge Saber 10.
Just my 2 cents
Happy Badminton

We heard so many cases broken yonex racquet while playing.

Ok anyone with same experince with other brand's raquet.???

We heard so many cases broken yonex racquet while playing.

Ok anyone with same experince with other brand's raquet.???

Well, i am sure people breaks xxxbrands rackets as well. We are hearing more of yonex rackets breaking because a yonex AT900T will cost ard SGD$250, while a clone will cost around SGD$60. So when one break a yonex AT700T, he/she will tend to grumble over their loss of their rackets, while if a clone breaks, people will just say, "well, its just $60, its worth the price". And also not to forget the ratio factor. There are much more yonex users than other brand users in this world, so the tendancy to hear from people that yonex rackets breaking is much more then the chance of hearing an xxxbrand breaking.:)

Well, i am sure people breaks xxxbrands rackets as well. We are hearing more of yonex rackets breaking because a yonex AT900T will cost ard SGD$250, while a clone will cost around SGD$60. So when one break a yonex AT700T, he/she will tend to grumble over their loss of their rackets, while if a clone breaks, people will just say, "well, its just $60, its worth the price". And also not to forget the ratio factor. There are much more yonex users than other brand users in this world, so the tendancy to hear from people that yonex rackets breaking is much more then the chance of hearing an xxxbrand breaking.:)


Yes , its ok, understand u.

I just want, whoever have same experience with other brands. Please share with us here

Becoz, I never read, I never heard, and I never saw

For yonex brand, I've read, I've heard, and I've seen.

Just list it here, if any

Yes , its ok, understand u.

I just want, whoever have same experience with other brands. Please share with us here

Becoz, I never read, I never heard, and I never saw

For yonex brand, I've read, I've heard, and I've seen.

Just list it here, if any

For me myself,

I have broke
2x apacs armorpower880
1x proace abspower1000:)

Of course for me i wouldnt have broken alot of rackets before, i arent a super big hitter.:):)

Well, i am sure people breaks xxxbrands rackets as well. We are hearing more of yonex rackets breaking because a yonex AT900T will cost ard SGD$250, while a clone will cost around SGD$60. So when one break a yonex AT700T, he/she will tend to grumble over their loss of their rackets, while if a clone breaks, people will just say, "well, its just $60, its worth the price". And also not to forget the ratio factor. There are much more yonex users than other brand users in this world, so the tendancy to hear from people that yonex rackets breaking is much more then the chance of hearing an xxxbrand breaking.:)

It is of very hard to draw any conclusion without hard figures..

I can only draw from personal experience, that I have had far more durability issues with Yonex rackets than any other brand I have used..

I think Yonex has improved the durability in the latest YYs (Arc, AT900T/P, new AT700 etc all seems improved over earlier models durabilty wise).

I have had serious durability issues with some of the models.. Especially Ti Swingpower SP,SX, NS8000 and early NS9Ks..

As always I think it is stupid to generalize between brand names.. There are of course no such thing as a durable or not durable "brand", just durable or not so durable models!!

What has ticked me off some times historically with Yonex is the "grumpyness" with warranties.. A proud Japaneese company should really honor world wide warranties for customers buying the real thing (just Like sony does it for example), if there are obvious manufacturing defects or durability issues with their goods.

/Twobeer

so for now, whoever broke their cheap brand racquet, just post it here, If not, people will think that it only happen to yonex racquet, hehehe

I will post if i broke mine :D

We heard so many cases broken yonex racquet while playing.

Ok anyone with same experince with other brand's raquet.???

It could happen to anyone, I guess;)
For what it's worth, I've broken a D-600 (SOTX)... :crying::crying::crying:
It was a very new racket and it happened as I hit a backhand drive. No clash or anything. I guess it was prolly a one-off (freakish) thing(y)...:confused::eek::crying:
By the way, I'm not what you'd call a 'big-hitter' or anything like that...:o

Yes , its ok, understand u.

I just want, whoever have same experience with other brands. Please share with us here

Becoz, I never read, I never heard, and I never saw

For yonex brand, I've read, I've heard, and I've seen.
Just list it here, if any

My broken list (http://prstat.blogspot.com/2008/01/full-cycle-for-rackets.html) runs from ProKennex to Ashaway to Yonex to APACS. Modes of failure ranges from hitting the floor to the frame just collapsing.

My longest lasting rackets are still the Cabs. That said, I not so recently lost my first Cab30 to a stupid shot. Still grieving over the loss not because it's expensive (it's 2nd hand) but that I lost a great racket to plain stupidity.

I used to break one racket around 3-4 months period (clash, hit the ground, or just string it to hard (bent)). Previously, I only believed in Yonex, which cost me around US$180-200 a piece. Now, I am using APACS, which cost me US$38-45 a piece. You can see, I can get 4 to 1 and still enjoy the game.

Performance wise, they are pretty comparable. I just have to play with strings tension to get the sweet spot of the rackets.

All it come down to is taking care of your racket regardless of what brand it is.

Ah, you must be a good customer of DinkALot :D.

I used to break one racket around 3-4 months period (clash, hit the ground, or just string it to hard (bent)). Previously, I only believed in Yonex, which cost me around US$180-200 a piece. Now, I am using APACS, which cost me US$38-45 a piece. You can see, I can get 4 to 1 and still enjoy the game.

Performance wise, they are pretty comparable. I just have to play with strings tension to get the sweet spot of the rackets.

Quality wise, a lot of brands make equal quality (better, if you'd ask some) equipment, comparing to yonex.

-ashaway strings are just as good as yonex's
-I find the Hi-tec 4-sys's just as good as yonex's models
-rackets: a lot of contenders, but i'll stick with what I know: Sotx
-clothing, well, a lot of brands
-Bags: a hard one... Karakal, babolat and wilson make soem nice ones, from what In see
-grips: wilson/karakal for normal grips, RSL for towelgrip.

All in all, I'd say a lot of brands are "just as good", but... What other brand does well in all those categories?
right....

I can't imagine why anybody would be against such a nice brand.... (but, I also can't place myself in the shoes of the fanboys either...)

For shoes, yonex is clearly the frontrunner.

For shoes, yonex is clearly the frontrunner.

I'm sort of almost kinda anti-Yonex myself, but even I agree with this one.

My opinion on this:

String: Ashaway is comparable to Yonex in performance and durability. Gosen is comparable in performance but much less durable.

Shoes: Yonex still the best for performance. Durability is just average.

Rackets: SOTX, APACS, RSL, Mizuno and Victor are all comparable to Yonex.

Bags: Yonex still makes the best and most functional bags. Babolat has excellent quality but function is sometimes not there. Others worth of mention, Adidas, Wilson, some Prince, Volkl, Kneissel.

Grips: Yonex is great but no durability, lots of other grips are good.

Overall: you can't go wrong with Yonex when it's badminton related. As a manufacturer as a whole, Yonex consistently beats out the others. Yonex is strong in all areas. Just keep in mind the price is at a premium and durability on some items maybe not so great.

Quality wise, a lot of brands make equal quality (better, if you'd ask some) equipment, comparing to yonex.

-ashaway strings are just as good as yonex's
-I find the Hi-tec 4-sys's just as good as yonex's models
-rackets: a lot of contenders, but i'll stick with what I know: Sotx
-clothing, well, a lot of brands
-Bags: a hard one... Karakal, babolat and wilson make soem nice ones, from what In see
-grips: wilson/karakal for normal grips, RSL for towelgrip.

All in all, I'd say a lot of brands are "just as good", but... What other brand does well in all those categories?
right....

I can't imagine why anybody would be against such a nice brand.... (but, I also can't place myself in the shoes of the fanboys either...)

Overall: you can't go wrong with Yonex when it's badminton related. As a manufacturer as a whole, Yonex consistently beats out the others. Yonex is strong in all areas. Just keep in mind the price is at a premium and durability on some items maybe not so great.
Quoted for truth :p

Though I must say, for a 'small' brand, RSL carries a pretty complete package as well. Their 0.70 ti-string is pretty nice... Haven't tried their shoes... the grip is not as good. But allround, it's pretty good. (clothing, bags, rackets, shuttles are good stuff)

Quoted for truth :p

Though I must say, for a 'small' brand, RSL carries a pretty complete package as well. Their 0.70 ti-string is pretty nice... Haven't tried their shoes... the grip is not as good. But allround, it's pretty good. (clothing, bags, rackets, shuttles are good stuff)

For me, RSL string has a long way to go. :p

RSL's clothing = good but doesn't have my size, even in 4XL it's tight.

Bags: all too small and a bit short and not aesthetically pleasing.

Shuttles: recently not so good. Even the T#1 and Classic Tourney. :(

Grips: only one is decent, the tacky one.

For overall, all-out quality, Mizuno would have to be tops in my books, but hard to find and $$$. I've not used one Mizuno badminton product that was made poorly.

Dinkalot you might need a bag this big to satisfy you:D:D:D

http://www.clicknet.cc/images/summer-2006-II-012.jpg

Dinkalot you might need a bag this big to satisfy you:D:D:D

http://www.clicknet.cc/images/summer-2006-II-012.jpg


Schweet!

But the APACS AP1003 is sufficient. It's the biggest 3 compartment bag I've found so far at nearly 17" wide at the base and when fully packed and stretched out, it's 22" wide in the middle!

Check it out here:
http://www.apacscanada.com/product_info.php/cPath/22/products_id/61

I just wish it came in black or gray. :p

Dinkalot have a look at this bag. It is slightly larger than the Apacs bag

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageBGHEAD-HEXTB083.html

Dinkalot have a look at this bag. It is slightly larger than the Apacs bag

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageBGHEAD-HEXTB083.html

Seen all the lastest bags and am familiar with that one, thanks but a few things:

1) No back pack straps.

2) Don't prefer the look. :p

I have the Kneissel Roller Bag if I want uber mongo big. :D

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageBGKNEISSL-KBAGST.html

RSL's clothing = good but doesn't have my size, even in 4XL it's tight.

Is that why you are not wearing any underwear because your big @$$ and nothing fits?:D:D:D

PS, I just found out that YY USA has a court in the back of the warehouse. Might check it out some time when I go home to visit.

Is that why you are not wearing any underwear because your big @$$ and nothing fits?:D:D:D

PS, I just found out that YY USA has a court in the back of the warehouse. Might check it out some time when I go home to visit.

Do take some photos!:D

Is that why you are not wearing any underwear because your big @$$ and nothing fits?:D:D:D


Lol EvilHeart is at it again :D

For overall, all-out quality, Mizuno would have to be tops in my books, but hard to find and $$$. I've not used one Mizuno badminton product that was made poorly.

Yes, Mizuno are great!!

The GP-rackets Ive tried and the Tetracrosses I have are of extremely good quality! The shoes are one of the few i've used comparable to my yonexes top of the line (SHB99,100) :-)

I have never tried any Mizuno strings or Shuttles though :-(

/Twobeer

Agree.One more thing,when ppl see apacs,or any other cloner brands,that produced the cloned yonex racket that costs one third the price of the same looking yonex rackets,they couldn't resist it.So,normally,the price would be the major concern for ppl to go anti yonex.

For me,I used to go anti yonex because i've seen alot of NS9000 broken during the game.Considering that it's still one of the most expensive rackets in the badminton industry,and the fact that For the very high price u've paid,in return,u get a very fragile racket.So,I think the price is not a major concern if u are seeking for one of the best performing rackets in badminton world.But we can't change the fact that the lighter a racket,the lesser its material density,the easier for it to break.Not until the badminton industry found one material that's light yet unbreakable.:D

Agreed, I see a lot of ppl skimp on price just becasue they see the array of cheap Yonex Clones. I tried the Apacs, ProAce and Protech but found them inferior in performance but high in durability. These racquets even claim to take up to 30lbs whereas the Yonex warranty covers up to 25lbs.

:DYonex will go out of business if they sell unbreakable racquets. Try to think of Yonex high end as F1 cars, optimize for performance but doesn't build like a tank. You benefit from the performance by winning the game.;)which is priceless..

P.S. Gosen is a brand just as expensive as Yonex, some of the top end is even more expensive than a NS9000. They have a unique set of technologies unlike other brands. But at the end of the day, you basically get what you pay for, performance-wise.

I just think yonex rackets are overpriced...i prefer Apacs and im using one now haha!

I generally do not like supporting the number 1 brand because they're number 1. For instance for golf I strive to find alternatives to titliest, for photography I stay clear of Canon. But for badminton I have never seen a single brand domination like yonex before. It's just so much easier to find information on the rackets. Also the fact that other brands copy Yonex's names like armortec to armor tech and the like make me want to steer clear of them and stick to the orginals...

Yes there is a brand premium which i'm not a fan off but i find that I have more confidence in my choice so I find that it is worth it.

Also the fact that other brands copy Yonex's names like armortec to armor tech and the like make me want to steer clear of them and stick to the orginals...

It is true that companies copy Yonex's names, but what I find fascinating is that some of these rackets are better than the Yonex counterparts. For example, the ARMOR MUSCLE Pro series by APACS, notice the armor and the muscle hint hint, can definitely match up to Yonex rackets. I have tried many head heavy rackets by Yonex and I can confidently say this. I'm sure DinkALot has something to say about the AMP series as well.

I'm sure DinkALot has something to say about the AMP series as well.

I don't have anything to say, just look at the picture below and my profile. :p


http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9624/amp001jp6.jpg

I don't have anything to say, just look at the picture below and my profile. :p


http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9624/amp001jp6.jpg

That says it all right there. :D

I am not anti-yonex.....

If i no have money>> i will go for other brand like RSL, ProAce, Wilson...

If i have money>> i will buy the yonex (high range like AT700 or AT900) because Yonex is very expensive, but the quality is good..

Yonex is a great brand. Without the brand, I don't think badminton will be where it is now. Personally, I have a few high end rackets, they perform great, but other brands such as SOTX and Victor also produce great rackets and I believe that people should give other brands a look before paying high premiums for Yonex.