View Full Version : Japan Open-Day 6(21/9/2008) finals
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:24 PM
WYH wild serve, out all the way.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:24 PM
ZM leading 15-13
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:24 PM
ZM leads 15-13 now.
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:25 PM
Extends 16-13 now.
ctjcad
09-20-2008, 11:25 PM
..a nice little battle at the net with both players displaying soft touches...WYH return is short...ZM leads 15-13 after WYH launched a missile serve way out of reach...
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:25 PM
Long rally, ZM wins on a net placement. 16-13
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2008, 11:26 PM
WS at its best........long rally and WYH ended with a tiring shot......16-13........
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:26 PM
Perfect sideline smash, ZM 17-13
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:26 PM
Extends 17-13 now.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:27 PM
Great crosscourt return from WYH, 14-17.
ctjcad
09-20-2008, 11:27 PM
...WYH is gasping for air...towel break...ZM leads 16-13...separating herself now 17-13..
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:27 PM
Yihan closes gap 14-17 now.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:27 PM
ZM leading 17-14
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2008, 11:27 PM
Absolute brilliant crosscourt net shot by Wang.....14-17............
carine
09-20-2008, 11:27 PM
ZM leading 18-14
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:28 PM
WYH needs to gauge the baseline, ZM 18-14
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:28 PM
ZM leads 18-14 now.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:28 PM
WYH smash, 15-18.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:29 PM
Great attack to ZM's backhand, 16-18
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:29 PM
Yihan closes gap 16-18 now.
ctjcad
09-20-2008, 11:29 PM
..both players displaying some devastating trick wrist shots...ZM leads 18-14...not to be denied a smash by WYH... 18-15 now..
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:29 PM
Again, another backhand attack, 17-18
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:29 PM
Closes gap 17-18 now.
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2008, 11:30 PM
3 brilliant winners by Wang and now within a point to level......17-18.....yes 18-18.......
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:30 PM
Level at 18 all now.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:30 PM
ZM is forced to lift short, easy WYH kill 18-18
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:30 PM
4 points lead from ZM, now 18 all....come on ZM
carine
09-20-2008, 11:30 PM
WYH leading 19-18
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:30 PM
ZM's gamble fails, WYH defence held 19-18
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:30 PM
Yihan leads 19-18 now.
ctjcad
09-20-2008, 11:31 PM
...is it me or does WYH resemble Sony Dwi Kuncoro??..oh wait, it has been mentioned before...ZM leads 18-17...it's all knotted up at 18 a piece...
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:31 PM
5 straight points from WYH...19-18
carine
09-20-2008, 11:31 PM
game pt for WYH,20-18
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:31 PM
Gamept for WYH, 20-18
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:31 PM
Yihan leads 20-18 now.
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:31 PM
Haiya....ZM lookslike to lose 1st set
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:31 PM
ZM recovers 19-20.
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:31 PM
19-20 now...come on ZM
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:32 PM
WYH squeals 21-19.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:32 PM
WYH took 1st set,21-19
ctjcad
09-20-2008, 11:32 PM
...WYH leads 19-18....ZM needs to speed up the game a bit, not giving a lot of lifts to WYH..game pt for WYH 20-18.....and game set for WYH...
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:32 PM
WYH took it..........
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:32 PM
Yihan wins 21-19 in 1st game.
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2008, 11:32 PM
Wang YH ending 1st set with a flourish......21-19...............
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:34 PM
WYH whacks the shuttle hard, 1-2
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:34 PM
WYH whacks the shuttle out, ZM 3-1
ctjcad
09-20-2008, 11:34 PM
...well, this is it for Hau-ge....let's see if ZM can force a rubber game...ZM leads 2-0 in the 2nd game..
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:35 PM
ZM leads 3-1 now.
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:35 PM
Closes gap 2-3 now.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:35 PM
Yup, we can pretty much know WYH's play now, whacking high shuttles hard.
ZM crosscourt deception, 4-2
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:36 PM
ZM leads 4-3 now.
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2008, 11:36 PM
ZM takes it early with a crosscourt winner.......4-2...........................
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:36 PM
...well, this is it for Hau-ge....let's see if ZM can force a rubber game...ZM leads 2-0 in the 2nd game..
If ZM losesto WYH then I need BIG miracle from Sony...sigh!!:(:(...come on ZM.....make it rubber...
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:36 PM
WYH's net game is wanting, ZM 5-3.
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:36 PM
ZM leads 5-3 now.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:37 PM
ZM floors WYH again, 6-3
carine
09-20-2008, 11:37 PM
ZM leads 6-3 nw...
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2008, 11:37 PM
Another deceptive crosscourt by ZM.........6-3..............
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:37 PM
6-3 for ZM...not save at all..even after leading 4 points....Focus !! ZM!
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:37 PM
WYH clear is out again, 7-3 ZM
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:37 PM
ZM leads 6-3 now.
ctjcad
09-20-2008, 11:37 PM
..ZM still in control, leads 4-2..5-3...c'mon girls, speed up the game a bit more...6-3 for ZM..
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:38 PM
ZM sideline clear out, WYH 4-7
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:38 PM
Closes gap 4-7 now.
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:38 PM
Closes gap 5-7 now.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:39 PM
ZM tries another net deception, didn't work. WYH 6-7
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:39 PM
Closes gap 6-7 now.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:39 PM
WYH whacking the shuttles forcefully, 7-7
carine
09-20-2008, 11:40 PM
level at 7-7 now
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2008, 11:40 PM
Level 7-7.............
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:40 PM
Level at 7 all now.
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:40 PM
here we go again..leading 7-3 to be tied 7 all
carine
09-20-2008, 11:40 PM
ZM leading 8-7 nw
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:40 PM
ZM leads 8-7 now.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:40 PM
WYH lift is woeful, 8-7 ZM smash.
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:40 PM
pray...pray for ZM to win this set...
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2008, 11:41 PM
Level Again 8-8.....................
ctjcad
09-20-2008, 11:41 PM
ZM needs to reduce making those lollipops...WYH's good footwork is chasing them down...all tied up @ 7 a piece..
carine
09-20-2008, 11:41 PM
tied at 8-8 now
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:41 PM
WYH whacks ZM's crosscourt clear, 8-8
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:41 PM
Level at 8 all now.
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:41 PM
8 all again...WYH is amazing......
carine
09-20-2008, 11:41 PM
ZM leading 9-8 nw
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:41 PM
WYH baseline leave is defective, 9-8 ZM
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:41 PM
ZM leads 9-8 now.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:42 PM
tied again...9-9
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2008, 11:42 PM
ZM, jia you.................9-8................oh no......9-9...............
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:42 PM
Level at 9 all now.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:42 PM
ZM leading 10-9
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:42 PM
ZM slaps herself in the face after that horrible dropshot miss, 9-9.
ZM makes amends with net kill, 10-9
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:42 PM
Toilet break with ZM 2 pts clear
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:42 PM
ZM leads 10-9 now.
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:43 PM
ZM leads 12-9 now.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:44 PM
WYH hits the baseline, 10-12.
ctjcad
09-20-2008, 11:44 PM
..finally, ZM with an aggressive attack, leads 10-9...ZM leads 11-9 @ interval....
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:44 PM
Closes gap 10-12 now.
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2008, 11:44 PM
Just what ZM needs ....lucky net cord....12-9.....now 12-10....................13-10............
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:44 PM
ZM midcourt body attack, 14-10.
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:44 PM
Leads 13-10 now.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:45 PM
WYH overhead kill, 11-14
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:45 PM
Leads 14-11 now. Will they play in 3rd game?
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:45 PM
WYH brilliant net kill, 12-14
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:45 PM
Closes gap 12-14 now.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:46 PM
ZM leading 14-12
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2008, 11:46 PM
But Wang is not letting up.....12-14...............
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:46 PM
ZM crosscourt smash forces WYH error, 15-12
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:46 PM
Leads 15-12 now.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:47 PM
WYH forced back, ZM 16-13
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:47 PM
Closes gap 13-15 now.
ctjcad
09-20-2008, 11:47 PM
..LYB must be smiling at home, watching her future WS star in the making...ZM leads 14-11...XiaXuanZe looks on....WYH with a quick drop and net kill..ZM leads 14-12....nice cross court slice shot..15-12...
carine
09-20-2008, 11:47 PM
ZM leading 16-13
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:47 PM
Toilet break with ZM 2 pts clear
Since when the toilet inTokyo get broken??:rolleyes:...:D:D
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:48 PM
Another lucky net cord for ZM, 17-13
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:48 PM
Extends lead 17-13 now.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:48 PM
ZM leading-17-13
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:48 PM
Closes gap 14-17 now.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:48 PM
Great dropshot, WYH 14-17
ctjcad
09-20-2008, 11:48 PM
..ZM is hearing Hau-ge's prayer, leads 16-13...nice little net tap by ZM, 17-13 now..
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2008, 11:49 PM
What a superb sliced dropshot hitting the sideline by Wang ................14-17...............
carine
09-20-2008, 11:49 PM
ZM leading 18-14
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:49 PM
similar score like 1st set...17-14...come on ZM...dont get chasedthis time..pls.....!
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:49 PM
WYH does make a lot of errors at the net, ZM 18-14
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:49 PM
ZM leads 18-14 now.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:49 PM
ZM leading 19-14
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:50 PM
Leads 19-14 now.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:50 PM
game pt for ZM,20-14
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:50 PM
Okay..ZM...dont waste it like Eriko....19-14...still not safe....
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:50 PM
ZM crosscourt deception forces WYH wild return 19-14
ZM smashes 6 gamepts
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2008, 11:50 PM
ZM going for rubber....20-14...................
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:50 PM
ZM is on Game point.
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:50 PM
Pls..pls..take this set....ZM
ctjcad
09-20-2008, 11:50 PM
..one of the linejudges is falling asleep at the back...ZM leads 18-14...nice little net cross court shot, WYH lifts wide...19-14...
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2008, 11:50 PM
ZM going for rubber....20-14...................20-15.....20-16............
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:51 PM
haiya...20-15....like Eriko's situation....
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:51 PM
ZM smiles as WYH saved 2 gamepts.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:51 PM
ZM needs to relax, already 3 gamepts saved.
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:51 PM
No..No..NO..20-17 now...3 points from WYH....Dang!!
carine
09-20-2008, 11:51 PM
WYH save 3 game pts,20-17
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:51 PM
This time, ZM takes no chances and Hauge can breath easier.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:52 PM
finally ZM took it,21-17...
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:52 PM
Phew!!! ZM closed it 21-17...
Tjun Tjun
09-20-2008, 11:52 PM
Yes ZM takes it....21-17 after some anxiety.............
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:52 PM
ZM win 21-17 in 2nd game. Who will verge winner in the 3rd game?
ctjcad
09-20-2008, 11:53 PM
ZM leads 20-16...ZM trying to stave off another rally by WYH...ZM smashes and closes 2nd game.....and gives a wink to Hau-ge...on we go to the rubber game;)
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:53 PM
This time, ZM takes no chances and Hauge can breath easier.
Yes....still a hope...come on ZM...make HKG and me proud....I will buy you Din Sum...kakakaka...:D
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:54 PM
WYH indecision loses her the 1st point.
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:54 PM
ZM leads 1-0 now.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:55 PM
tied at 1 all nw
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:55 PM
One of the few times WYH's backhand was ever seen, 1-1.
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:55 PM
Level at 1 all now.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:55 PM
ZM backhand crosscourt misses the sideline, 2-2
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:56 PM
ZM 2-1 now.Level at 2 all again.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:56 PM
2 all now..........
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:56 PM
Hope ZM is not too tired...2 all
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:56 PM
WYH is always exposed at the net, ZM 3-2
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:56 PM
ZM leads 3-2 now.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:56 PM
3 all now..........
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:56 PM
ZM forced to lift out, 3-3
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:56 PM
3 all again......come on ZM...
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:57 PM
Level at 3 all. Close game.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:57 PM
Another WYH wild serve.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:57 PM
ZM leading 4-3 nw
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:57 PM
ZM leads 4-3 now.
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:57 PM
Perfect sideline drop, WYH 4-4
carine
09-20-2008, 11:57 PM
tied again,4 all
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:57 PM
Level at 4 all again.
ctjcad
09-20-2008, 11:57 PM
.another tight start by both players..all knotted up at 3 a piece..
carine
09-20-2008, 11:58 PM
5-4...ZM leads...
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:58 PM
ZM leads 5-4 now.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:58 PM
ZM leading 6-4 nw
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:58 PM
ZM gets her baseline clear spot on, 6-4.
7-4 with a smash.
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:58 PM
Extends lead 6-4 now.
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:58 PM
Hope ZM can take 2nd SS title this year ( 3rd title with India Open if she wins JO)
carine
09-20-2008, 11:58 PM
ZM leading 7-4 now...
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:59 PM
Powerful crosscourt smash from ZM, 8-4
ctjcad
09-20-2008, 11:59 PM
Hope ZM is not too tired...2 all
..not yet...ZM leads 6-4...under control...what an overhead smash to the sideline by ZM...7-4..
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:59 PM
Extends further 8-4 now.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:59 PM
ZM still leading,8-4
huangkwokhau
09-20-2008, 11:59 PM
8-4 for ZM..hope ZM does not slip...
abedeng
09-20-2008, 11:59 PM
Lighting interception at the net, WYH 5-8
Noridayu
09-20-2008, 11:59 PM
Closes gap 5-8 now.
carine
09-20-2008, 11:59 PM
hope ZM will mantain the lead...
huangkwokhau
09-21-2008, 12:00 AM
WYH can stage the comeback at any time...sigh!! 8-5
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:00 AM
Now WYH 6-8. ZM takes a breather.
huangkwokhau
09-21-2008, 12:00 AM
8-6 for ZM....come on ZM....
Noridayu
09-21-2008, 12:00 AM
Closes gap 6-8 now.
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:00 AM
WYH forces ZM to backcourt, 7-8
huangkwokhau
09-21-2008, 12:01 AM
Wow...8-7 now...haiya!! Haiya!!3 points from WYH
carine
09-21-2008, 12:01 AM
ZM leading 9-7 nw
Noridayu
09-21-2008, 12:01 AM
Closes gap 7-8 now.
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:01 AM
WYH prepares for the net kill, 8-9
huangkwokhau
09-21-2008, 12:01 AM
9-8........for ZM
Noridayu
09-21-2008, 12:01 AM
Closes gap 8-9 now.
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:01 AM
ZM flat return, 10-8.
huangkwokhau
09-21-2008, 12:02 AM
pls make it 11, ZM.....
carine
09-21-2008, 12:02 AM
ZM leading 10-8
Noridayu
09-21-2008, 12:02 AM
ZM leads 10-8 now.
huangkwokhau
09-21-2008, 12:02 AM
still 10-9for ZM.......
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:02 AM
ZM laughes as her clear drops back in after hitting the net cord.
carine
09-21-2008, 12:02 AM
ZM leading 10-9
Noridayu
09-21-2008, 12:02 AM
Closes gap 9-10 now.
ctjcad
09-21-2008, 12:02 AM
WYH creeping in....ZM leads 9-7..9-8...both players seem to have similar style...quick attack at the net..ZM leads 10-8..
carine
09-21-2008, 12:03 AM
tied.....10-10 nw
Tjun Tjun
09-21-2008, 12:03 AM
Wow...8-7 now...haiya!! Haiya!!3 points from WYH
Looks like this match is life and death for you.....relax man ZM is smiling....10-9......:D:D:D
Noridayu
09-21-2008, 12:03 AM
Level at 10 all now.
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:03 AM
WYH takes 1 pt lead at the interval, 11-10.
carine
09-21-2008, 12:03 AM
turn to WYH lead,11-10
Noridayu
09-21-2008, 12:03 AM
Yihan leads 11-10 now.
ctjcad
09-21-2008, 12:04 AM
..what an aggressive net play by WYH...all knotted up @ 10 a piece....i hope Hau-ge is still relaxed...and WYH leads 11-10 @ interval....XiaXuanZe giving some pep talk to WYH...both players ready now..
huangkwokhau
09-21-2008, 12:04 AM
come on ZM....11-10 for WYH...
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:05 AM
WYH sideline clear is out, 11-11
huangkwokhau
09-21-2008, 12:05 AM
Looks like this match is life and death for you.....relax man ZM is smiling....10-9......:D:D:D
For my Knock-out...YES!!!:D:D life and death match for me...sigh!
carine
09-21-2008, 12:05 AM
level at 11 all now...jiz you,ZM
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:05 AM
ZM back in the lead, 12-11
Noridayu
09-21-2008, 12:05 AM
Level at 11 all now.
carine
09-21-2008, 12:05 AM
ZM leading 12-11
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:06 AM
ZM body attack failed, 12-12
Tjun Tjun
09-21-2008, 12:06 AM
Aiyo......12-12..........
Noridayu
09-21-2008, 12:06 AM
Level at 12 all now.
carine
09-21-2008, 12:06 AM
tied again,12 all now
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:06 AM
Baseline serve is good, WYH 13-12
ctjcad
09-21-2008, 12:06 AM
ZM looking a bit winded now...re-drop by WYH is short...ZM leads 12-11...
carine
09-21-2008, 12:06 AM
WYH leading 13-12
Noridayu
09-21-2008, 12:06 AM
Yihan leads 13-12 now.
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:07 AM
Perfect crosscourt smash by ZM, 13-13
carine
09-21-2008, 12:07 AM
13 all now...come on ZM
Noridayu
09-21-2008, 12:07 AM
Level at 13 all.
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:07 AM
So to is WYHs, 14-13
carine
09-21-2008, 12:07 AM
WYH leading 14-13
carine
09-21-2008, 12:07 AM
WYH leading 15-13
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:07 AM
WYH 2 pts clear now.
Noridayu
09-21-2008, 12:07 AM
Yihan leads 15-13 now.
ctjcad
09-21-2008, 12:08 AM
WYH launched another missile serve that traveled nearly to the ceiling and dropped in...all knotted at 13 now..WYH leads again 14-13..
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:08 AM
My 14 pt PAW is beckoning, 16-13
carine
09-21-2008, 12:08 AM
WYH leading 16-13
Noridayu
09-21-2008, 12:08 AM
Yihan leads 16-13 now.
Noridayu
09-21-2008, 12:08 AM
Extends 17-13 now.
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:09 AM
Yup, 17-13 now and Hauge's heart might break soon.
Make that 18-13
carine
09-21-2008, 12:09 AM
WYH leading 18-13
ctjcad
09-21-2008, 12:09 AM
..it's nervous-time in the hall, crowd is getting antsy...WYH leads 16-13...
Noridayu
09-21-2008, 12:09 AM
Extends 18-13 now.
carine
09-21-2008, 12:09 AM
look like ZM is tired
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:09 AM
PAW pts, here I come, 7 matchpts!!!
carine
09-21-2008, 12:09 AM
WYH leading 19-13
Tjun Tjun
09-21-2008, 12:10 AM
Oh no ..........13-18.................13-19...............everything crashing down on me.......13-20............pain, pain, pain.........
carine
09-21-2008, 12:10 AM
match pt for WYH,20-13
ctjcad
09-21-2008, 12:10 AM
...tehsham is preparing his teh tarik..WYH leads 18-13....ZM running out of gas...19-13 now..
Noridayu
09-21-2008, 12:10 AM
Leads 20-13 now.
huangkwokhau
09-21-2008, 12:10 AM
Sigh!! Look like my Knock out PAW is getting tougher and tougher....Hope Sony can make miracle....sigh!!
abedeng
09-21-2008, 12:11 AM
Indecision gives ZM a slim chance, 14-20
Now 15-20
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