Japan Open-Day 6(21/9/2008) finals

[carine]

MAS leading 16-4

[abedeng]

Difficult to believe that a CHN pair could just switch off.

[carine]

MAS leading 17-4

[eaglehelang]

wow, close 1st game...good luck to Chin and Wong in the 2nd game...

which match is Shanghai Sports showing now ctjcad??

[abedeng]

Almost all CHN returns are loose or out.

[carine]

MAS leading 18-4...CHN give up in 2nd set n focus in rubber?

[carine]

MAS leading 19-5

[eaglehelang]

WOW, how did it go from 8-4 to 18-5???

Go gals! Win your 1st SS title.

[abedeng]

CS throwing the game away with wild return.

[carine]

game pt for MAS,20-5

[carine]

MAS took the 2nd set,21-5

[abedeng]

ZYL crouches and makes the error.

[carine]

MAS leading 2-0

[abedeng]

CHN pair try to take time for discussion between rallies.

[ctjcad]

which match is Shanghai Sports showing now ctjcad??
..they are showing highlights of last week's American National Football League's matches....interested??..:);)
i'm listening to the play-by-play calls while refreshing this thread.....no more baddy, i guess....

[carine]

MAS leading 3-1

[abedeng]

MAS pair sending flatter returns to their opponents' chests.

[abedeng]

Chin's return is wide, 3-3

[carine]

3 all now...jiayou MAS

[abedeng]

CHN pair playing flick serves to force MAS lift.

[ctjcad]

anyone can describe what happened in the 2nd game??...did the CHN pair simply throw away the game??..

[abedeng]

CHN gain pts from MAS wayward clears, 8-4

[eaglehelang]

Ctjcad, GD Sports is showing WD NOW

[abedeng]

32 pt PAW is back online.

[carine]

Jia You,CEH/WPT...

[eaglehelang]

GD Sports is showing WD FINALS NOW

[abedeng]

MAS all out attack 5-11

[carine]

CEH n WPT,jia you,don't give up

[abedeng]

MAS trying to come back 7-13

[abedeng]

32 PAW pts are getting bigger, 17-8

[abedeng]

Wong does her best to fight back, 12-17

[abedeng]

CHN doing delaying tactics.

[abedeng]

Chin misjudgement is costing MAS the title.

[ctjcad]

GD Sports is showing WD FINALS NOW
..i hear ya...i guess they're showing it just when it gets exciting, eh??...CHN up 19-13...19-14, MAS still fighting...

[abedeng]

MAS try a final push, 17-19

[ctjcad]

...CHN leads 19-15...crowd still showing support to the MAS pair..19-16...MAS slowly coming back??..

[abedeng]

3 chances for 32 pt PAW

[ctjcad]

...wow, a thriller....32 pt-er is still up for grabs....;)

[eaglehelang]

..i hear ya...i guess they're showing it just when it gets exciting, eh??...CHN up 19-13...19-14, MAS still fighting...

LOL, we just have to keep on changing channels, :) but it's ending now :(

[carine]

argh,MAS lost d.....

[abedeng]

32 points are safe, CHN win 21-18.

MAS didn't get a good start in the 1st and 3rd games, cost them dear.

[abedeng]

Kinda sorry for Wong today, Chin didn't complement her very well.

[ctjcad]

..after a series of wonderful defense by Chin, the CHN pair nails it in...CHN on match pt...M'sian supporter cheering "M'sia Boleh! Boleh! Boleh!"...20-18 now...and CHN wins 21-18....whooow, what an ending....

[eaglehelang]

Kinda sorry for Wong today, Chin didn't complement her very well.

Hasnt it been that way for some time for this pair? CEH being the weak link? :( But for WPT to change partners..... the youngsters are very much younger than her. Pity WPT

[ctjcad]

argh,MAS lost d.....

Kinda sorry for Wong today, Chin didn't complement her very well.
..it's a bit disappointing, but hope this experience will boost their morale and attitude...
Congrats to both pairs for their first FIRSTS; MAS' pair for their 1st ever SS WD Final experience. And CHN's new pair for winning their first ever SS title in their young pro career; perhaps this will be the first small step of more major victories to come??..

[badMania]

CHN's WD should have pretty good pairs for the next Olympics:
(1) Du Jing/Yu Yang -- current Olympics Champion
(2) Pan Pan/Tian Qing
(3) Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei -- first SS and first title...what a performance!
(4) Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli -- WJC 2006 Winner
(5) Xie Jing/Zhong Qianxin -- WJC 2007 and AJC 2008 Winners

[ctjcad]

LOL, we just have to keep on changing channels, :) but it's ending now :(
..GD TV is back showing a grunting women tennis match..disregarding the prize presentation..

Congrats to all the winners and finalists. Good to see so many first time SS winners this yr, in this SS (WYH, SDK, JR & LP, VM & MR & CS & ZYL).
See y'all back, hopefully, next week at the China Masters SS; same time, channel, frequency and bandwidth...Hope we'll see more new & first time winners!:cool:

[ctjcad]

CHN's WD should have pretty good pairs for the next Olympics:
(1) Du Jing/Yu Yang -- current Olympics Champion
(2) Pan Pan/Tian Qing
(3) Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei -- first SS and first title...what a performance!
(4) Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli -- WJC 2006 Winner
(5) Xie Jin/Zhong Qianxin -- WJC 2007 Winner
..good thing it'll be in 4 yrs as we'll be pretty good in initializing the names of the last 4 (up & coming) pairs..;)

[tommy_bun]

(3) Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei -- first SS and first title...what a performance!


this is not their 1st title,they won Austrian Open last year,beating tian qing/pan2

[LI De Quan]

And WS:
XIE Xingfang
WANG Yihan
ZHU Lin
LU Lan
WANG Lin
JIANG Yanjiao
ZHU Jingjing
no need to mention juniors:D:DMaybe they have no chance:o

[copadh]

I thought Bona is 21 also, because Pia (the younger sister) is already 19.
Time for Bona/Ahsan to prove themselves this year. Incidentally, Kido/Hendra also start to rise up the rankings when they were 21 (in 2005).

Ahsan born 7 September 1987, while Bona 22 September 1987, (data from PBSI). Like Kido and Hendra, the first is two weeks older than the other...

[taufik-ist]

I am very antsy...I am hungry too....I am at Cafe Internet located at Sarinah.....willplay baddy later...( you know where I am going)


congrats to ina players for winning 2 titles of JO 2008

off topic... hey koh, how are you? it's been a long time we haven't met again :D.. i didn't know that you're in jakarta.. i was staying in borobudur hotel from 16 - 19 september 2008 for attending a "computer training " ... if only i had known you had been in jakarta that time.. i might have contact you and met you there :D

[ctjcad]

And WS:
XIE Xingfang
WANG Yihan
ZHU Lin
LU Lan
WANG Lin
JIANG Yanjiao
ZHU Jingjing
no need to mention juniors:D:DMaybe they have no chance:o
..Wang Yihan is definitely the REAL DEAL...(haven't seen Zhu Jingjing play, yet):cool:

[hcyong]

1. Mistakes by Nova cost the pair.
2. LCW suddenly turned off when close to finishing first set, after that it looked like WC in KL.
3. Wang Yihan and Wang Lin will contest for the top spot in some years to come. Lu Lan will be in the mix as well.
4. Septano/Ahsan showing very good promise.
5. Pretty good effort by Chin/Wong, I must say. Even against a relatively new pair, it is a Chinese pair nevertheless. Cheng/Zhao showed some immaturity, but it will only take some time to fix this problem. Good strong attack.

[Nanaokimi]

just returned from JO... men`s double n women`s double was very entertaining! Congratulations to all the winners! happy to see new Japan Open champion faces!
SDK took some pix with Wang Yihan after the prize giving ceremony. Taufik Hidayat was there too with his digital camera.
Indonesian men`s double pair was superb.small but their agility...perghh...

I think I just lost my voice for the whole week....

[ctjcad]

....wow, Sony took some pics with Wang Yihan??..I wonder, when the pics come out, if Sony will be surprised to see Wang Yihan resembles a bit like him..;)

Yep, we heard you guys chanting those "Boleh! Boleh! Boleh!"(thorugh livestream)..and it was LOUD, LOUDER than y'day (Semis)...I guess you guys got a new chant/cheer leader, eh??..:cool:..And definitely the cheers turned the solemn crowd & atmosphere a bit livelier..:cool:
And yeah, we saw the last few pts of the WD match and it was definitely exciting.
Any pics to share with us of your cheering group??..:)

[chris-ccc]

Congrats to all the winners and finalists. Good to see so many first time SS winners this yr, in this SS (WYH, SDK, JR & LP, VM & MR & CS & ZYL).

See y'all back, hopefully, next week at the China Masters SS; same time, channel, frequency and bandwidth...



.
Just got back to read about today's JO FINALS.

Thank you to all for your posts. :):):) It's great to find so many first time SS Champions.

And my predictions failed badly... Only having 1 correct out of the 5 events. :o:o:o
What our moderator, Cheung, posted is true. Those who are hungrier for success are the ones more likely to win. They try harder. Cheung was telling me that CS/ZYL are hungrier than CEH/WPT to win their WD match.

This also applies to SDK, WYH, LP/JR and MR/VM, who are hungrier to win their matches.

Sometimes, I feel that players should make less comments to the press. I am talking about LCW's comment as reported in the press. When SDK learned about LCW's injury, that could make SDK more determined and hungrier to win, even before the match starts. And it was good that he did it. :):):)

Finally, It's Congratulations to all Match winners (and to PAW winners, as well).
.

[limsy]

ANYWAY,have 2 final spot from 11 player....good enough...gambateh in the next tournament...mas...

congrates to all winner...

[badylife]

though they have lost. i am still proud of wong/chin as i can see that they have given their best. down 1st game but go on to win g2 convincingly. however,they lost g3 but not without giving a gd fight.
they were trailing by 8 points but fight back and in the end lost the title by just 3 points(18-21).
anyway this wd match is an interesting match with mas having strong defense and chn having strong attack.
honestly mas could have won if they cut down on their errors.
hope that wong/chin will continue to show improvement and win a super series title this year. congrats to them for thieir 1st SS final.
good achievement considering they beat 2nd seed n prevent chn from scoring straight set victories for the title.
hope there is more breakthrough and victories for them.
congrats to all d winners today.

P/S:somehow i feel that wong/chin have very little communication on court.hardly see them encouraging or talk to each other. both look very serius.am i the only one who feels that?i have seen them play before and i feel that they have more communication in older matches in 2006. back then, they were always give each other encouragement and appologizes 4 their mistakes. maybe they should communicate with each other more. maybe ants can tell them about this. anyway all the best to them in china masters

[Nanaokimi]

took some pix with my old digicam,but the quality is not so good. my housemate took more than 500 pix for semi n final using his dslr. hope I will have time to upload n share some of them with all of us(need to learn how to upload pix here). the trophies for women`s double was presented by Malaysia ambassador. It would be great it WPT/CEH won the champion, but:crying: .






....wow, Sony took some pics with Wang Yihan??..I wonder, when the pics come out, if Sony will be surprised to see Wang Yihan resembles a bit like him..;)

Yep, we heard you guys chanting those "Boleh! Boleh! Boleh!"(thorugh livestream)..and it was LOUD, LOUDER than y'day (Semis)...I guess you guys got a new chant/cheer leader, eh??..:cool:..And definitely the cheers turned the solemn crowd & atmosphere a bit livelier..:cool:
And yeah, we saw the last few pts of the WD match and it was definitely exciting.
Any pics to share with us of your cheering group??..:)

[apontoh]

Wow, surprise surprise, CHN has a new young WS star in Wang Yihan. She could well be the next Zhang Ning...

meanwhile, Zhou Mi looks like an aunty here, no offence
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/82930941.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193F1A54CE2C4AF7C233A43FDF389355FF5 284831B75F48EF45

[ctjcad]

...my housemate took more than 500 pix for semi n final using his dslr. hope I will have time to upload n share some of them with all of us(need to learn how to upload pix here)... .
...sure, we'd be happy to see them.:)
*For posting pics, make sure the pics fall under the 680x460 size, thus you might have to re-size/crop them. Then to upload them, you'll see a horizontal button, called "Manage Attachments" (when you're in typing mode). Click, and off you go with attaching those pics. If possible, you can post the pics in the "Japan Open Photos" thread.:cool:

[badylife]

ya looking forward to see JO pics. thanks in advance. great that u njoy the matches

[CLELY]

Final result of Japan SS 2008 : INA grabbed two (XD, MS), 2 titles for CHN (WS, WD) and MD title won by DEN. Breakthrough performance is created by CHN juniors and Bona Septano/Mohammad Ahsan (BoSan) who enter finale for the first time in SS tournament despite they lost to former World Champion Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen.

Next stop, CHN Masters SS will be tougher for INA players as CHN top-names back in action after OG.

[extremenanopowe]

Wow... well done to all the winners. A big upset in the singles for sure. Bravo! ;)

[samuel882]

Wow, surprise surprise, CHN has a new young WS star in Wang Yihan. She could well be the next Zhang Ning...

meanwhile, Zhou Mi looks like an aunty here, no offence
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/82930941.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193F1A54CE2C4AF7C233A43FDF389355FF5 284831B75F48EF45
Congrats to the cutes china gals :D
Very good results for a youngster considered she manage to beat the "China WS killer" Tine Rasmussen. And she just being promoted to national first team in 2006.
Credit must be given to her mentor coach : Wang Peng Ren , the former World Champs in XD with Shi Fang Jing. (not sure if many still can remembered them :cool:)

[abedeng]

Credit must be given to her mentor coach : Wang Peng Ren , the former World Champs in XD with Shi Fang Jing. (not sure if many still can remembered them :cool:)

Yeah, I remember 'em, Beijing XD World Champs of '87. Kind of short lived careers, though.

[abedeng]

Congrats to all winners, especially Wang Yihan and Sony DK. Makes a pretty pair, both of 'em. And as expected, our resident BC forummers Jonas/Lars took home the MD title.

Congrats too to the losing finalists, esp Bona/Ahsan and Wong/Chin. They tried hard but it was just not enough. Could Bona be even better than his famous brother? Time will tell.

Heartbreaking defeat for Wong/Chin, they were the better pair for most of the match if only for lack of concentration in the early stages of the final game. A commendable effort nonetheless and they showed great mental spirit to mount a late fightback. One the younger MAS WD pairs have yet to match.

[badminto_expert]

Congratulation China, INa take 2 titles and Denmark 1 title.

Very sad to say again to home players is Malaysia. Jago Kandang. Still mentality problem plays outside Malaysia.

[limsy]

kaka....so....u expect lcw to win this with right hand injured???....if so....sdk can retire liao lor....fainted...

hmm....from what i heard...wong/chin lost with great fight...nothing to shame...

lol...

[abedeng]

.

What our moderator, Cheung, posted is true. Those who are hungrier for success are the ones more likely to win. They try harder. Cheung was telling me that CS/ZYL are hungrier than CEH/WPT to win their WD match.

This also applies to SDK, WYH, LP/JR and MR/VM, who are hungrier to win their matches.



I would agree on WS, XD and MS, the winners were indeed hungrier.

Not MD and WD, both pairs on court were hungry. But in the end, there can only be one ..... waa, now I'm sounding like The Highlander theme. :p

[badylife]

by the way , anyone knows who's mas wd coach in the finals just now? nvr see him before. wonder why coach rexy or pang didnt come

[chris-ccc]

Credit must be given to her mentor coach : Wang Peng Ren , the former World Champs in XD with Shi Fang Jing. (not sure if many still can remembered them :cool:)



.
Talking about Mixed Doubles, in the past the Europeans were always the Champions.

It was only in the 1980's when Asian players like, Christian Hadinata/Imelda Wigoeno [INA], Park Joo-Bong/Chung Myung-Hee [KOR], Lee Deuk-choon/Chung So-young [KOR], Wang Peng-Ren/Shi Fang-Jing [CHN], etc... got to master how to play Mixed Doubles effectively.

Therefore, Wang Peng-Ren/Shi Fang-Jing [CHN] should be well remembered.

:):):)
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[abedeng]

by the way , anyone knows who's mas wd coach in the finals just now? nvr see him before. wonder why coach rexy or pang didnt come

Rosman Razak, I think.

[badylife]

Rosman Razak, I think.

i see. thanks 4 d info. didnt know that he coaches WD. he is tall

[Jagdpanther]

Er, is it only me, or there are really some 'voices' that attribute Sony's victory more to LCW's injury rather than his hard effort? :confused::o:rolleyes:

If I remember correctly, it's stated that his hand are just slightly injured/painful.

[limsy]

yes...the voice if from me...hehe....han jian says....even ur fingernail pain...also affect a top class showdown....see...i say top class showdown...keke....anyway...i didnt saw the match lar...how to comment?...keke...

[limsy]

Er, is it only me, or there are really some 'voices' that attribute Sony's victory more to LCW's injury rather than his hard effort? :confused::o:rolleyes:

If I remember correctly, it's stated that his hand are just slightly injured/painful.

HERE U GO...
http://www.badzine.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1281:yonex-japan-open-finals-vita-victorious&catid=8:international&Itemid=39

[Dato A]

Er, is it only me, or there are really some 'voices' that attribute Sony's victory more to LCW's injury rather than his hard effort? :confused::o:rolleyes:

If I remember correctly, it's stated that his hand are just slightly injured/painful.

It's normal things that when Mas player went down, sure got a lot of excuses.

Datuk Lee again perform ''superbly'' in the final. The result showing No.1 World Ranking Player's standard? Or Datuk Lee is only capable to perform well until semi-final?

I can say that the result produced is lousy, as same in the Beijing Olympic Game.

**Or Datuk Lee dont want the title ''Tun''? (He might be conferred the title ''Tun'' if he win the Japan Open - Gold medallist) Because of that he simply play....

DATUK LEE BOLEH!!!

[limsy]

It's normal things that when Mas player went down, sure got a lot of excuses.

Datuk Lee again perform ''superbly'' in the final. The result showing No.1 World Ranking Player's standard? Or Datuk Lee is only capable to perform well until semi-final?

I can say that the result produced is lousy, as same in the Beijing Olympic Game.

**Or Datuk Lee dont want the title ''Tun''? (He might be conferred the title ''Tun'' if he win the Japan Open - Gold medallist) Because of that he simply play....

DATUK LEE BOLEH!!!

post of the tournament...applause...;)

[leonardklh]

now let's off topic here.. and continue the next tournament!!! CHINA MASTERS SUPER SERIES 2008!!!

[limsy]

both CMO and JO is quite boring to me...hmm...no lydia and others...hmm...anyways....ours md are there(CMO)...hehe...go...kiong kiong...

ops....sorry....off topic...

[eaglehelang]

It's normal things that when Mas player went down, sure got a lot of excuses.

........

And as usual also a lot of criticism ...... will appear in the media soon. When LCw lost last yr Denmark Open due to knee injury it's called excuses i.e. injured also cannot lose. Lost cos tired/fatigue also got critised.
And cannot just say "the other player played better", also excuse (not saying you :D). Give any reason, is also excuse.
Other country players give injury reason dont kena critised as intense.

Give reason cannot, dont give reason also cannot.
:p;):D:D

[ctjcad]

...
Datuk Lee again perform ''superbly'' in the final. The result showing No.1 World Ranking Player's standard? Or Datuk Lee is only capable to perform well until semi-final?
...
...i just hope his newly bestowed Dato title hasn't put any pressure on him..;)

[Dato A]

And as usual also a lot of criticism ...... will appear in the media soon. When LCw lost last yr Denmark Open due to knee injury it's called excuses i.e. injured also cannot lose. Lost cos tired/fatigue also got critised.
And cannot just say "the other player played better", also excuse (not saying you :D). Give any reason, is also excuse.
Other country players give injury reason dont kena critised as intense.

Give reason cannot, dont give reason also cannot.
:p;):D:D

Being professional badminton player in mas aren't easy. U have to be mentally strong enough to absorb those critics when u lost and praying words when u win.

1 question - If Datuk Lee is injured, why he still want to continue playing the game (final)? He can choose to quit at the beginning of 1st set. And somemore news reported that the injuries is not bad - ''slightly injured.''

If he feels that he is not fit enough (MAYBE HE GOT ALOT OF FUNCTION AND PARTY AFTER CAME BACK FROM BEIJING) to compete in the Japan Open after the 'exhausting Beijing Olympic Game', why still want to compete? He can choose to stay at home and play guli (marbles), just like LiN dAN.

[hcyong]

It is not LCW's fault that he is a Datuk. Criticise all you want, but at least it is unfair to be sarcastic about his Datukship.

[ye333]

They won Indonesia Open in 2005 I think. Thrashing Candra/Sigit 15:3 in the 3rd game. I am not sure whether they had any major title before that.


I think Bona/Rong-Rong will little bit nervous since this is their 1st SS Final, however they can follow their senior, MK/HS who win 1st major title in JO two years ago, correct me if I am wrong..

[cooler]

it seem all the 08 OG finalists who entered in this JO fail to grab any title considering so many withdrawal from many top names.

[volcom]

It's normal things that when Mas player went down, sure got a lot of excuses.

Datuk Lee again perform ''superbly'' in the final. The result showing No.1 World Ranking Player's standard? Or Datuk Lee is only capable to perform well until semi-final?

I can say that the result produced is lousy, as same in the Beijing Olympic Game.

**Or Datuk Lee dont want the title ''Tun''? (He might be conferred the title ''Tun'' if he win the Japan Open - Gold medallist) Because of that he simply play....

DATUK LEE BOLEH!!!

Well said, these lame excuses need to end ;)

[tjl_vanguard]

hau-ge must be happy his prayers are answered.. finally sony get to beat chong wei..

haha :D

[chris-ccc]

It's normal things that when Mas player went down, sure got a lot of excuses.

Datuk Lee again perform ''superbly'' in the final. The result showing No.1 World Ranking Player's standard? Or Datuk Lee is only capable to perform well until semi-final?


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:D:D:D Dato Asbullah ... So are you saying that LCW was thinking that after winning the Semi-Finals was "Mission Accomplished"?

We have to note when LCW told the press about his hand injury.

Anyway, I feel that players should make less comments (to the press) about their injuries before their next match. When learned about a player's injuries, it could make opponent(s) more determined and/or hungrier to win the next match.

:):):)
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[Jonc108]

Being professional badminton player in mas aren't easy. U have to be mentally strong enough to absorb those critics when u lost and praying words when u win.

1 question - If Datuk Lee is injured, why he still want to continue playing the game (final)? He can choose to quit at the beginning of 1st set. And somemore news reported that the injuries is not bad - ''slightly injured.''

If he feels that he is not fit enough (MAYBE HE GOT ALOT OF FUNCTION AND PARTY AFTER CAME BACK FROM BEIJING) to compete in the Japan Open after the 'exhausting Beijing Olympic Game', why still want to compete? He can choose to stay at home and play guli (marbles), just like LiN dAN.

Well said.

In professional sports, injuries and fatigue are normal and part of the game (imagine that in tennis, it is common that MS players may have to play 3 hours or even 4-5 hours every game in a competition, and when lost, they or their supporters never complain of injuries or fatigue but admit that the winning opponents are playing better).

This is because, managing your own physical conditions from competition to competition are also part of the professionalism / intelligence of the player.

From this simple first point of view, LCW is way worse than many players. Therefore I said he is not good enough to be world no.1, overall speaking.

Talking about his own injury before the JO final, given me an impression that he is pre-empting people with some pre-excuse so that people would have advance sympathy towards any potential loss he might have in the final (okay this is only an impression, no one but LCW could only know whether the true intention is). He should not mention it, or just pull out of the match if the injury really matters.

Therefore, from this second point of view, LCW still disappointed me by lacking the charater of a real champion.

And I dare to guess that being a professional badminton player in China would be more difficult than in MAS. If you are not performing well, apart from critics, you would be easily dumped out of the national team, as they have too many choices. Look at Chen Hong, Wang Chen, Zhou Mi... They could still be in the world's top ten when not in team China, but no longer in team China.

Only when LCW has breakthrough in these areas would he become the real champion, real world No.1..

[eaglehelang]

Being professional badminton player in mas aren't easy. U have to be mentally strong enough to absorb those critics when u lost and praying words when u win.

2) 1 question - If Datuk Lee is injured, why he still want to continue playing the game (final)? He can choose to quit at the beginning of 1st set. And somemore news reported that the injuries is not bad - ''slightly injured.''

3) If he feels that he is not fit enough (MAYBE HE GOT ALOT OF FUNCTION AND PARTY AFTER CAME BACK FROM BEIJING) to compete in the Japan Open after the 'exhausting Beijing Olympic Game', why still want to compete? He can choose to stay at home and play guli (marbles), just like LiN dAN.

1) There's not much "praying words" when he wins, just ok, win lor. If LCW win SS title, just alright he won another title. THe OG silver medal was considered as "failure to win 1st gold" not "great you won 2nd". THe praises by the politicians aft OG (seldom happen normally) was due to political tug a war.

2) Also will have criticism, worse maybe - 'how can give up in the finals -> mentallly weak. :D

3) It's already posted that contractually the players must go Japan Open as that's the home country of Yonex. As I recall, LCW is the only MS rep from BAM. LTS, Sairul, Roslin are from clubs. And.......... LCw is defending champion of JO.......

ANd, of course, if dont go, there'll also be criticism....... the Indonesian MD gold medalist, XD silver medalist can go, why LCW so weak & tired, cannot go?:p

All the above is not saying you say,but for sure there will be such comments - that's why the perception of non Msians that Msians are a negative lot, here & in real life.

Have you noticed the Indonesia MD gold medalist, XD silver medalist, WS bronze medalist also didnt win the JO title ? Their junior XD (one half at least) won XD title instead. The WS OG bronze medalist lost to the OG 4th place finisher. All the OG medalist did not win JO title, best is runner up.

So, all the medalist also... not fully fit this JO, do you see the criticism for them is as intense ?? That's what I mean. :D

[Loh]

Well said.

In professional sports, injuries and fatigue are normal and part of the game (imagine that in tennis, it is common that MS players may have to play 3 hours or even 4-5 hours every game in a competition, and when lost, they or their supporters never complain of injuries or fatigue but admit that the winning opponents are playing better).

This is because, managing your own physical conditions from competition to competition are also part of the professionalism / intelligence of the player.

From this simple first point of view, LCW is way worse than many players. Therefore I said he is not good enough to be world no.1, overall speaking.

Talking about his own injury before the JO final, given me an impression that he is pre-empting people with some pre-excuse so that people would have advance sympathy towards any potential loss he might have in the final (okay this is only an impression, no one but LCW could only know whether the true intention is). He should not mention it, or just pull out of the match if the injury really matters.

Therefore, from this second point of view, LCW still disappointed me by lacking the charater of a real champion.

And I dare to guess that being a professional badminton player in China would be more difficult than in MAS. If you are not performing well, apart from critics, you would be easily dumped out of the national team, as they have too many choices. Look at Chen Hong, Wang Chen, Zhou Mi... They could still be in the world's top ten when not in team China, but no longer in team China.

Only when LCW has breakthrough in these areas would he become the real champion, real world No.1..

Well said! ;)

I did not watch the finals, but a friend commented that LCW employed the wrong tactics against Sony. Sony was thought to be the smarter player by first slowing down the first game with lobs and clears and not allowing LCW to pressure him with his speedy play. Sony seemed to do better with this strategy and it appeared LCW could not match him.

In the second game, my friend said Sony changed tactics and speed up his game instead. LCW was caught in the wrong gear and could catch up and that was probably why he gave up his Japan Open title so easily.

Sony deserves to win more titles after having been in the circuit for such a long dry spell with relatively short periods of success. I hope he will continue to shine for INA. :)

[george@chongwei]

It's normal things that when Mas player went down, sure got a lot of excuses.

Datuk Lee again perform ''superbly'' in the final. The result showing No.1 World Ranking Player's standard? Or Datuk Lee is only capable to perform well until semi-final?

I can say that the result produced is lousy, as same in the Beijing Olympic Game.

**Or Datuk Lee dont want the title ''Tun''? (He might be conferred the title ''Tun'' if he win the Japan Open - Gold medallist) Because of that he simply play....

DATUK LEE BOLEH!!!
satu jaringan yang baik..haha:p:p:rolleyes:
actually i expected this comment to come out after lee chong wei lost in the final yesterday..
the conclusion is, (very well shoot)`satu tembakan yang baik` :rolleyes::cool:, dato.

[Dato A]

Well said! ;)

I did not watch the finals, but a friend commented that LCW employed the wrong tactics against Sony. Sony was thought to be the smarter player by first slowing down the first game with lobs and clears and not allowing LCW to pressure him with his speedy play. Sony seemed to do better with this strategy and it appeared LCW could not match him.

In the second game, my friend said Sony changed tactics and speed up his game instead. LCW was caught in the wrong gear and could catch up and that was probably why he gave up his Japan Open title so easily.

Sony deserves to win more titles after having been in the circuit for such a long dry spell with relatively short periods of success. I hope he will continue to shine for INA. :)

Again, Mas mentality is weak.

[ctjcad]

...
I did not watch the finals, but a friend commented that LCW employed the wrong tactics against Sony.
...
...your loyal and faithful traveling BC companion??...;)..
The Finals matches were okay. The WS, WD & i heard the MD (couldn't see the livestream) matches were pretty good as they went the distance. But it was refreshing to see many new faces & competing in the Finals.:cool:

[tehsham]

After reading this thread, I am sure lucky without internet access yesterday...if not I might already a gone case with all this excitement....I watch the live on TV without a clue what Hau-ge had PAWs and thus without the stress

[ctjcad]

..where cardiovascular & heart pounding exercise without the need to get up from one's seat and not moving the arms and legs happens!..:cool:

[Loh]

...your loyal and faithful traveling BC companion??...;)..
The Finals matches were okay. The WS, WD & i heard the MD (couldn't see the livestream) matches were pretty good as they went the distance. But it was refreshing to see many new faces & competing in the Finals.:cool:

No this is a Malaysian friend from my badminton group. ;)

[Sealman]

WYH really doesn't like doing backhand shots, even so far to her left, she chooses overhead forehand.

I watched the WS match and was very amazed that WYH only excecuted one backhand shot - a backhand crosscourt drop.

[hiltonmoreira9]

I was just curious and wonders why:
the final of Japan Open Super Series 2008 didn't attract many spectators.. it was DIFFERENT with final of WTA Tennis tour (Torquay Pan Pacific COmpetition?!) the attendance seats were full..

[Jagdpanther]

I was just curious and wonders why:
the final of Japan Open Super Series 2008 didn't attract many spectators.. it was DIFFERENT with final of WTA Tennis tour (Torquay Pan Pacific COmpetition?!) the attendance seats were full..
Perhaps... Because no home reps played in finals?;)

Tennis is more famous than badminton in Japan as well?
I think we'll have to wait for a very long time to watch "Prince of Badminton" anime then.:D

[limsy]

Perhaps... Because no home reps played in finals?;)

Tennis is more famous than badminton in Japan as well?
I think we'll have to wait for a very long time to watch "Prince of Badminton" anime then.:D

hmm...why dont u draw a new manga with that name:p

[Jagdpanther]

hmm...why dont u draw a new manga with that name:p
No way I can draw manga. My drawing skill is awfully terrible la.:D

[hiltonmoreira9]

what I meant is, don't you scare?
the popularity is decreasing..
it was bad